What are your thoughts on modern art?
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What are your thoughts on modern art?
>>751850209
I pretty much hate it.
the Jews are behind modern art
It's like they are trying too hard... No one will remember them so w/e i don't give a fuck about these faggots
>>751850209
it's actually very simple, so simple it's boring. I hate the people that attack it as if it was something bit or important, not much different than /b in reality, just people doing whatever they want
I study art... and I prefer modern shit. Old oil paintings are so boring, some are nice to look at but they are so repetitive.
>>751850209
wat
>>751850209
Modern art and modern dance are a fucking joke.
They're both degenerate as fuck.
>>751850209
pic related, there's an idea, a story, something something behind whatever the fuck he is doing.
not sure if children should be involved but simply stating it sucks because you don't know what's going on, is testament of your own ignorance and willingness to judge something because you are fucking lazy.
not defending art, just attacking your narrow mind.
>>751850546
Most of Hitler's artwork was laughably bad. Egon Schiele's work has more skill and character than anything Hitler ever made.
>>751850209
god that fucking pretentious looking cunt with the scarf
>>751850209
modern art is mostly done by art students who spent a lot of time studying and over analyzing actual/historic art. but since you cant study creativity or originality their crafts are often nothing more than bullshit, with an abstract meaning that you dont get if you did not come up with it. thats why it has to be explained whe presented, because its not actually well thought out. or you can just throw every basic interpretaion of art at it and see what sticks (critsism of consumism, anxiety of growing old, unappreaciated love, etc.) .
it became a whole system people sign up to, because its regarded to be mindful or sophisticated to like this kind of stuff.
bullshitting for attention and tricking people into spending way to much money on unoriginal and lame shit.
its pretty much a scam from start to finish appealing to richtards who try to be cultured by letting "experts" telling them what is art and what not.
and since eyerthing is worth as much as people are willing to pay for it (or beeing manipulated into thinking what they should pay) there is nothing from stopping that.
you can learn a craft but you dont get creativity from books/lectures, but since beeing just a critic or ordinary craftsman istn paying so much some people just use this pretentious vehicle to appear thoughtfull and can react to negative critisism with "you just dont get it".
>>751850209
Modern art is dope. Post-modern art is shit.
>>751850209
People who create it go straight to execution. No trial, no jury.
>>751853380
this
>>751852644
I like the uneven windows, the lack of depth fade, and the door cut off by steps
>>751851933
I understand your point and I see where you are wrong
>>751850209
shit like this is so dumb
once saw a piece of art that was simply a bandage put on a knife.
WHOA hold it there Michelangelo, your crtitisism of society goes way over my head!
>>751850209
jewish bullshit
>>751852603
yeah he did a great job in expressing a message if he has to explain the message anyways.
>>751850209
some is good some is shit.
i think people just show the shitty part of it, and complain about that saying that "all modern art is shit"
>>751850209
Some good, some not good
>>751850209
Traditional visual art is dead.
Digital and photography are the only modern visual arts worth shit anymore.
I respect the geniuses that sell this "art" for big bucks. Lot of money laundering.
>>751850209
It's Weimar Germany tier at this point. Voyeurism, sadomasochism, sodomy, nihilism, depravity, perversion
all being viewed by equally depraved elitist art snobs viewing pretentious and meaningless shit
We need another world war
>>751856315
While I do not disagree with the general view in what way would a war help?
Killing the "artists"? Sure, but killing the people against them as well.
>>751855703
But the things that are good is art and not "modern art", right?
"modern" is the code word for shit with no artistic value.
>>751856456
War is never desirable, but it brings about changes that could never occur otherwise.
>>751856776
its never good for the present, but it can be benefitial for the future.
Todays infrasturucture and facilities are good, because they were destroyed in WW2.
thats why the US still has to struggle with old structures, because they partly date back to the civil war.
>>751857143
sry, i mean Todays infrastructure in europe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBdQZins_qM
>>751850209
It's a scapegoat for "oh muh I hate absurdism" because some losers lack any creativity. There's nothing "modern" about making something bizarre.
>>751853380
jesus give us some warning.
indradistingly enuff video games like Urban Chaos are sumwhat realistic
>>751858682
Happy Holidays.
>>751858903
for fuck's sake
This is not art, this is degeneracy and filth and should be censored. How people could consume such mindless garbage and pass it off as creativity is inconceivable to sensible church going people. I hope our nation's savior Donald Trump does away with this garbage real soon.
>>751850209
hating modern art proves that you don't stop for even 5 seconds to consider what the idea is.
the fact that you're "mad" about modern art, means you contribute to modern art. it's the perfect trap.
>>751851927
wow I'm actually surprised that an anon knows the "secret" of modern art.
it's literally this. it's created to make you think ANYTHING. that's the art. It triggers you in some unique way.
>>751850209
What's art about that?
>>751859302
Sort of like walking into a public toilet that someone didn't flush.
Got it.
Modern art is a jewish conspiracy as a means to launder money. Why else would a literal painted line go for a couple million?? It's the perfect front
>this triggers the storm weenie
>>751850209
wait a minute, I can jerk-off in front of a bunch of girls and not be arrested if I call it art?
>>751850209
>filename
Kek
>>751859492
God damn it why does this make sense
>>751850209
It's stupid and it's also a scam. I majored in fine arts in uni. First year I thought okay it's dumb but i dunno, i guess it sells? 2nd-4th year, no okay this is definitely scam and a money laundering front as well. It is the domain of charlatans and con-men and mobsters.
>>751852644
Well yeah but he was good enough to get in to the fucking school to learn how to be better. I've seen 4th year art students with good grades who were worse.
my thoughts are about modern art? modern art ended more less almost 100 years ago. It is called contemporary art.
>>751859814
Because it's true.
>>751850209
I've got a dog in this fight because I paint for a living. My view is that if something has to be explained to whoever is looking at it, then that thing has failed to do its job. I also find that people who like looking at art, generally prefer it to look something like whatever it is meant to be representing. A lot of abstract art etc is just pretentious people who can't paint trying to justify their work and disguising their lack of talent by talking bullshit.
What is there to consider? I think nothing of garbage.
>>751850546
>modern
>art
pick one
not that postmodernism is any better
>>751859814
It's a plausibly deniable way for them to pay one another off for favors. Book advances are another.
Where is this, Germany?
Of course it's gonna be garbage.
>>751859187
Triggered?
post-modern art or modern like you call it is basically just /b/ but we earn money from it
>>751850209
There are always good artists, but shitshows get the most attention from our terrible media, and the art world is run by degenerates.
>What are your thoughts on modern art?
>>751858147
Enjoyed that, noice.
>>751850209
asian guy has a huge brown dick though
>>751856214
oh yeah, toss some paint on a canvas and sell it to some asshole with more money than brains
>>751861064
>triggered
disappointed, but not surprised
Memes are more art than contemporary art.
>>751862922
like waking up, stepping in something cold and squishy and it turns out that cat puked on the carpet sometime at night
something like that?
>>751862630
why did no one else mention that monster cock?
>>751850209
i hate the "EDGY" attitude of our generation, and i have nor respect for art that tries to be edgy though there is modern art that does not need to surprise in such a post modern way but young people lack the sensitivity of good art sometimes, and prefer the attitude over beauty.
So i don't "think" about what i like or not in modern art, i just enjoy or not enjoy art. having an opinion on "art" is overrated nobody cares and art is not mad for that,
>>751850209
Who the fuck brings a child to this fuckery
>>751863291
yeah, exactly this feel
>>751863583
see son? this is a real cock.Unlike your father.
>What's he thinking /b/?
>>751863676
kek
THIS IS ART NOW. DEAL WITH IT
>>751850546
hitler was a zionist and the jews loved him until he pissed them off
never forget he started isreal hitlers man lplan was to send the jews off to isreal he started isreal
>>751853380
i wonder if some one will put these videos in a musem one day and call it art
also very good composition there
>>751851933
>I study art...
>and I prefer modern shit
Lmfao
>>751863824
>hitler started Israel
No he didn't you fucking retard, Britain did with the Balfor declaration in 1917.
The German govt made a deal with the Zionists to send their Jews over there because Hitler wanted them out of Germany. He didn't care where, and there was even a plan to send them all to Madagascar
that is one monster asian dong
also MODS
>>751863817
Is there a chick puking in the background? Haha.
>>751850209
mfw nobody notices it's shopped
>>751850209
>modern art
It's not modern art. That movement was in the mid 1900s. It's contemporary art now.
>>751865438
shopped how?
proof?
Search for "exposição macaquinho" on youube, its a brazilian """art""" where people make a circle when everyone grabs each others ass
>>751865624
look at his cock.... and the curvature on the back of his left thigh.
>>751850546
And you are a Nazi. Go kill yourself.
>>751865871
So in other words, you're speculating.
>>751866210
Did I offend you by saying his cock is fake? Do you want it to be real? Sorry...
>>751850209
thankfully there is still good art being done by hand.
example, Diego Fazio does amazing photorealistic pencil drawings like this one. that is not a photo that is drawing with a pencil. to me that is in some respects as good as the classics
It's fucking bull shit that's what it is
>>751866401
Not offended, and I don't care much one way or the other, I was simply stating that you're making the assumption that it's shopped, rather than being able to offer evidence, i.e., the original version of the image, some sort of context, etc.
>So as I said, you're speculating
>>751866624
>rather than being able to offer evidence
>look at his cock.... and the curvature on the back of his left thigh.
I guess you didn't examine his penis or thigh? Or, are your eyes just glued to his cock?
>>751863723
Timbs b
>>751850209
Some of it's ok. I'm a fan of the sculptures especially, but some of the paintings are decent. Performance art is universally trash, else it would just be called a play.
>>751859492
huh
>>751852644
>implying that you study art and have any authority on subject
to the bin with you
>>751850209
It's amazing a stupid thread like this has lasted so long
>>751850285
like this? i love it.
>>751863609
>>751866455
that's just like your opinion, man.
okay, the drawer got some skill and put an incredible amount of time in his work, which he could also achieve with a camera and a black and white filter. without flaws. within seconds.
value his time more? why?
on the other hand noone could take a pic like friggin god or venus in the sea.
>>751868420
teethless in less than 30 years.
>>751870038
The silk thread
On which my heterosexuality used to hang on
Is now cut
Forever
>>751850546
Most of his work, that I've seen, is good. Too bad we can't just reflect on an old Austrian artist who took his work too seriously to bother with politics and beer hall rebellions.
wtf I feel like I'm missing out
>>751870418
just for this?
>>751863723
>>751870057
That's funny, at least.
simple description of modern art
Modern "art" is all about pseudo-intellectuals baiting with obscenities for attention, while giving just a little bit of room for interpretation so other pseudo-intellectuals can tap themself on the shoulder when they come up with some shallow meaning to it.
Memes and anime are the true art of our time.
>>751871972
and porn could be art?
Not all porn, but sometimes?
>>751871145
at least
>>751871972
Ah, I see, you're a man of culture as well.
>>751850209
Most of them are terrible, like I could do one in 3m
>>751850209
I love it. Don't care too much for the old boring stuff.
>>751853380
Tell ya the truth, I'd rather go out like this than have cancer or some other horrid disease slowly eat me alive.
>>751871580
literally, all it takes to route and destroy an entire African army is just a few white ex-military mercenaries.
>>751850209
when you find an asian with a dick bigger than 3", bet your ass he gets put on display.
>>751850209
>>751850546
You guys know the modernist period has been over since the 40s, right?
>>751850546
Talent is not equal to copying shit like a photograph. Realism is boring.
Enough complaints! Post some recent art that you actually liked.
>>751871580
Boss, they're just kids... don't hurt them.
>>751850209
What the source on this image anyways.
GIS turns up nothing.
>>751870757
>>751870857
>>751870038
>>751872413
I'm becoming more and more erect. Please continue.
>>751875245
keep 'em coming
Dont remember where this came from but it was <100 years ago so modern ish.
The Cremaster Cycle is actually great. Modern art is cool sometimes.
>>751875323
keksinski
>>751850209
Art is like pharmaceutical research. Most of it is a failure, but the one's that are successes make it all worthwhile.
>>751850209
Mostly complete shit for the arrogant and the deluded
>>751875596
that's not really an argument. Why is it "complete shit for the arrogant and the deluded"
>>751850209
Art making proccess
>>751875309
Zdzisław Beksiński for the creepy ones.
>>751875206
>>751875181
>>751875113
>>751874957
is another surrealist, I don't remember his name
>>751875061
>>751850209
I believe 99% of the people posting in this thread don't actually know what the term "modern art" in fact refers to.
i like John Berkey's stuff. Nothing profound, just cool spaceships for book covers.
>>751875404
Not modern art.
>>751875887
>>751875914
how is it not modern art? Barney is definitely considered "modern art".
>>751875918
>>751876001
He didn't produce art in the modern era, hence his art isn't modern.
(Hint: We aren't living in that era and haven't been for decades).
>>751850209
art for the sake of being weird or abstract is a joke and I generally don't respect it unless it also displays some aspect of genuine technical mastery.
>>751850546
actually the CIA is behind modern art. you can thank the cold/culture war for cia-funded Rothko and Pollack bullshit that popularized low-effort, low-skill "art" that pretentious people like to pretend means something.
Forget the name of the sculpture, but it is in the DeYoung Museum, made out of weapons and ammuniton.
>>751852644
And how was Egon Schiele at leading a broken country into being one of the world's strongest economies?
>>751852644
Do better faggot?
>>751853380
I suppose this is a lot better than being burned alive or eaten by rats or whatever other random torture they usually employ.
>>751876349
Futurism was supported by communists. Futurism is considered part of the modern art movement. So no.
What you're talking about is abstract expressionist art which the Soviets rejected and the CIA pushed.
Modern art is good when people have a vision and aren't just trying to make up some pseudo-revolutionary shit.
What do you guys think about this painting I did?
>>751850209
"Art"
>>751850209
>>751854684
Apparently it actually did.
>>751876134
ok, fine, "post-modern art". Jesus
>>751861989
Have you seen my pure-breed child?
Isn't he wonderful?
>>751876314
HNNNNG
There's quite a big difference between modern and postmodern.
>>751850209
srious answer:
the problem is not modern art, modern art and surrealism have always existed.
The problem is art galleries and the merchandisation and propaganda made for this type of art by art dealers(mostly jews) and the total control of press and media that devaluates and attacks traditions
>>751876549
I'll get back to you.
>>751876457
I had to google futurism. It sucks. Nothing but simplistic shapes arranged into tired and repetitive themes, and not a single legitimately talented artist.
>>751876457
futurism is fascist, you dumb fuck. It started in Italy in the 1910s. It was explicitly anti-communist
>>751869129
>muh equal pay
>muh equal status
>muh equal respect
>muh equal societal standing
>>751876844
fine, but i dont that that distinction was made in this thread
>>751850209
You mean like the entire concept of all modern art? lol.
That's like saying "what are your thoughts on modern television"
Some of it's amazing, some of it's terrible, like anything.
>>751876939
I'm not really arguing for or against any art movement.
I'm more arguing people who want to talk about art in this thread get terminology and art movements straight.
And yeah, futurism wasn't particularly awesome as a movement.
Abstract expressionism kind of was though. Lot of great painters in that movement. Talent follows money, so it's not a surprise.
>>751876912
>always existed
Modern art started in the 1920's and didn't become mainstream until the 50's.
>>751876549
I think it looks like the sidewalk at an elementary school recess. You may have some idea of what you want to express, but your imagery is amateur and unpracticed.
>>751850209
I think you mean "conceptual art"
Modern art is a movement that took place from 30's until the late 60's. A time period known as the modern era.
Art being made today is called "contemporary art"
>>751877067
well-known painters, perhaps. in the case of abstract expressionalism the money, specifically CIA money, created the "talent" rather than following it. i can't think of a single abstract expressionalist who was an actually skilled artist.
>>751877099
What are some things I can do to practice my imagery?
>>751877208
>contemporary
Is that really the term? Surely there is something better? I guess a real name will be decided at some point in the future when there can be some distinction made.
>>751876961
Actually Russian Leninist propaganda has its roots traced back to futurism too. Dumbass.
Futurism was apolitical until political movements co-opted it for propaganda.
>>751877359
Then you haven't actually studied their work.
>>751850209
It's pretty stupid at the moment, but if it weren't for modern art, we'd still be looking at painting of vases.
So its extreme stupidity drives progress for the average or normal art.
>>751850546
first 2 are not Adolf's
>>751866455
Okay yes as an artist myself I can appreciate the technical skill and time that has been invested in this work, but at the end of the day what did it matter? Did it add to the conversation about what art is and could be? Did it make you think beyond "hurrdurrrrlooksgood". Did it challenge you or bring you to a conclusion or crossroads within yourself? Did it evoke a genuine and meaningful emotional response from you even if it was a negative one? Did it make you wonder, or question? Because those are just a few parts that the modern art world is interrogating or commenting on today. But without knowing art history or trying to enter this ever developing art meta, you would never know anything about it.
>when nonartists try to act like they understand art more than the legitimate professionals in the field.
>>751877785
Yeah...I'm trying to be generous here, but maybe if I were to see his show as a whole, the effect would add up to something compelling. But taken out of context, its hard to see why a photo wouldn't accomplish the same effect.
>>751851933
>Fuccboi detected
>>751869063
This is more about aesthetics than painting. Most people dont realise that making something imperfect or deliberately of balance is what we perceive as beautiful and we think we are drawn to symmetrical things.
>>751850209
what kind of fucked up cunt lets her child stare aimlessly at some gooks cock like that? this makes me never want to have kids, fuckin disgusting. nice "art" by the way
I'm still kinda hoping more people would post examples of contemporary art they actually like.
>>751878523
>>751873170
Agreed. Totally alive to absolutely dead as fuck within a fraction of a second.
>>751875245
zdzisław beksiński
>>751878148
Nah I'm not talking about drawing vs photography here. I'm not talking about hand made vs technology. I'm addressing the fact that this drawing (while skillfully rendered) is nothing more than a face of someone no one here knows. It means nothing to us. It does nothing. It adds nothing new to the art world. So why is this better than the artists going out on a limb with conceptual art, trying to redefine what art is and can be?
That's just a face man and you're right a camera can capture it better so why not use skills to make meaningful work? Hence postmoderism and conceptual art.
>>751850209
Didn't modern art end in 1945ish?
>>751850209
Shit sucks.
http://multimidia.gazetadopovo.com.br/media/videos/1506653914_mam_exportado.mp4?1511495827
>>751863817
seriously why the fuck
would anyone go to see this shit
>>751859365
i think it'd look quite good on a wall completely covered in mirror
>>751877785
Art is the creation of beauty. Nothing more or less.
Get fucked.
>>751879954
Is it? I mean is there an established definition?
Body Remix is better than Interior Semiotics.
Body Remix Goldberg Variationen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYS1PG6RoyY
Interior Semiotics:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RM1oTw6fPg
>>751879954
can art be ugly, but still art? can you have ugly beauty?
>>751850209
It is a circle jerk of multi-millionaires showing off how sophisticated they are. Trading literal trash for millions. It has no real meaning.
>>751850209
we truly are fucked
>>751880127
It all boils down to beauty. Art can be expressed in an infinite number of ways and facets, but essentially it's all for the sake of beauty, which is really just praising God, the Universe, or whatever highest-power you subscribe to. A beautiful song, a beautiful car, even a beautiful spin-kick during an MMA fight.
>>751880240
No. Something isn't art until it achieves beauty.
>>751855956
pretty sure I saw this exhibit in NYC as a kid. The same artist also put a spec of his poop in a glass dome.
>>751850209
>pay over $1,000 or something to watch a guy jerk off on a frame
A R T I S T I C A S S D E A D D I C K
>>751881000
>Something isn't art until it achieves beauty
Part of me wants to ask you to define beauty, the other part of me want to simply point out that some would find this landscape beautiful, and others would find it desolate, and many would find it to be both.
I would argue that it may be better to substitute 'achieves beauty' with "is capable of causing a significant emotional response based on its aesthetics."
>>751881558
Since you posted a natural landscape, and my definition of art involved, specifically, the act of the creating something beautiful, we're about to get into a very deep discussion on the nature of the universe. But that's a bit besides the point, so I'll simply say that the landscape is beautiful because it was created by God, and his art is perfect.
Your extended substitute is confusing to me though, because achieving an emotional response from observing aesthetics is a part of what makes something beautiful, so that's not adding anything to the definition. Since we are all independent beings, beauty is by nature very hard to pinpoint, since we all perceive the universe in different ways. So I'm going to avoid the pitfall of trying to create some sort of all-encompassing definition, and state this: If you find something that was created or shaped in some way to be beautiful, it is Art.
>>751851933
That's the dumbest thing I have ever heard.
>>751863723
Is he giving the finger?
>>751876349
Jesus man can't you find beauty in something? Or do you just see shit everywhere you look? I used to be that way
>>751874612
Edgy.
>>751882913
I guess I see achieving a positive emotional response from observing aesthetics as beauty/appealing, and achieving a negative emotional response from observing aesthetics as ugly/revolting. I humbly submit that a human creation that achieves one, the other, or both should at least be taken under consideration as possible art, even if all agree that it is repulsive.
>>751878572
Holy shit
>>751884447
you like?
I like stuff with colored light and shadow
>>751884186
>I humbly submit that a human creation that achieves one, the other, or both should at least be taken under consideration as possible art, even if all agree that it is repulsive.
I sort of see where you're going with that.
In the Lord of the Rings films, the orcs were specifically created to be ugly and repulsive, but their aesthetics were crafted by master modelers and special effects artists, so their work achieved exactly what they wanted. But then there's another layer, in that the orcs are also shown as crafting and creating things themselves, and have produced their own unique aesthetic that separates them from other races. So then it gets really tricky, because then you have to say to yourself. "If something is repulsive, but was crafted meticulously to bring about that exact emotional response and was created with great technique, is it art?"
I suppose you could consider that as "anti-art," or art that praises the opposite of God, but I think that's something best left for each person to decide for themselves, because any argument you make at that point is basically going to just be you trying to impose your worldview on someone else.
>>751850209
I've never seen a thread last over 8 hours on /b/ before.
>>751885784
>any argument you make at that point is basically going to just be you trying to impose your worldview on someone else
Yeah, I was trying to avoid that. I guess I'm just saying that some ugly things can have their own sort of "beauty" by your definition (as I've understood it*). This may be on another level, or 'a face only the mother could love', or the orcs like you say, but my main point is that I believe that:
Beauty does not have to be pretty.
Likewise, art does not have to be pretty.
*Beauty being beyond basic visual aesthetics (i.e. pretty colors), may include beauty in what it conveys or how it conveys it. Maybe I should have used pretty/ugly instead of beauty/ugly?
>>751884186
you should try to be more concise. there's a lot of fat to be trimmed off this post.
>an ugly thing (environmentally), that is pretty (what with the colors and all), and may well contain some beauty.
>>751886856
which parts? I guess I could say
>Generally speaking, art achieves an emotional response.
How can I be reasonably correct without being verbose? I feel like any terse answer will be so general as to be useless.
>>751886577
"Pretty" and "beauty" are two different concepts, so I would agree with you that something beautiful doesn't have to be pretty. A war-torn battlefield can be beautiful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QE4Ld1mkoM
>>751887176
your verbosity is too much window-dressing and it clutters your points. your goal in conversations like this isn't to out-style the other person, but to communicate your end as clearly and efficiently as possible.
things like "I humbly submit" and "one, the other, or both" are clutter,
por ejemplo
>>751887642
Fair enough, "humbly submit" wasn't necessary for the point (it was gentle sarcasm in response to the previous posts), but I think one, the other, or both was necessary, and it actually excluded neither.
>this is pretty much nothing; I am indifferent to it
...
>this appeals to me
...
>this revolts me
...
>this is appealing, and yet I am repulsed by it
>>751878456
But that picture is fucking ugly, anon.
>>751886577
Forgive me for changing the subject. I collect chess sets -- not an extensive collection or expensive, but unique sets I find in my travels. It brings me great joy. When I was a little boy (a million years ago), I saw a set like this for sale, but I couldn't afford it, It's been for me, "the one that got away." I remembered I liked it and that it was made with nuts and bolts, but I couldn't recall how the bolts were arranged to be representative of the pieces. I'm no artist and lacked the creativity to reinvent the concept. But this, this I can copy -- and perhaps, even improve on it. You've made this a great Thanksgiving Day for me. Thank you anon.
>>751888411
You're welcome... by accident.
>I couldn't recall how the bolts were arranged to be representative of the pieces
Do you need to? As long as one can look at it and know what everything is, I don't think it matters about matching a pattern.
>lacked the creativity to reinvent the concept
...eh, Imma let it go, because I have to go.
Please find attached an electronics piece, which IMHO is an underused and poorly appreciated medium.
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>>751850209
Modern art is mostly pretty cool. But you need a bit of education to really understand it, for better or worse. But either way, it generally conveys its message fairly well, even to idiots.
Postmodern art is about 50% pretentious shit. And the people that make it general think you need to be educated to understand it, but they really just suck at art. Art being visual communication, and their lack of communication being a failure on their part.
Contemporary art is mostly an extension of postmodernism, on the high end, but a whole lot better on everything made by people not selling for $100k or above. There are exceptions, of course, but value is not a good reflection of quality anymore. The gallery system is pretty much rigged to shuffle around money and rip off most artists.
>source: me, graduated from a top art school and own a gallery now (not one of those galleries though).
>>751888887
SO CLOSE
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>>751888887
>off by one
Fuck off Strauss & Howe
>>751865974
Were the growing majority.
>>751850209
as an actual artist with skill it pisses me off so much dude! Nowadays everybody can call themselves an artist by making literally shit into their so called art. And the worst thing is that it sells for astronomic high prices like what the fuck. Modern art focuses on weirding out people which is not art in my eyes. No skill required.
>>751888953
>Art being visual communication
...what about music?
>>751889049
Youre not. Fuck off.
>>751875404
Not modern, like anon said. But it is amazing. I have a full set of stills from Cremaster 3.
>>751889107
I can make a distinction between "Art" and "art," if you'd like. But then you could argue that there is sound "Art." But really, sound "Art" really cropped up during postmodernism, so I take that with a grain of salt.
Either way, it is meant to communicate something specific. If it does not do so accurately, to most people and to a reasonable degree, then it is failed communication.
>>751851933
Faggot detected
>>751852603
Liberal faggot nigger detected
>>751850209
literally for fags
>>751859254
Nigger liberal detected. Your sarcasm outs you, faggot
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>>751878572
this
>>751850209
Its a bit harder to discourage bad artists in abstract performance stuff.
If you fuck up your perspective of an apple, then its just plain bad, but if you eat an apple and you trip and fall on stage, its still as good as what ever you where planing to do with it. better even. That's why its full of hacks, it takes a whole lot longer to figure out that they should quit and get a real job.
>titties tho
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>>751878572
Lisa Yuskavage is great.
>>751889678
>But then you could argue that there is sound "Art."
Of course there's "sound art." Art is a general concept, hence why since time immemorial, fighting as a practice has been called "martial arts."
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>>751888953
This, pretty much
>>751890568
Art in general is neither good nor bad objectively, and is only worth what you the observer take from it. What other people and critics see in it, or even what the original creator meant for it to convey, are irrelevant unless you see the same thing. However, that doesn't make another person wrong if they see something else in it, or even if they see nothing at all, as art itself has no inherent value. It won't keep you warm at night or feed you when you're hungry. It's only as good as the way it makes you feel and the ideas it plants in your head.
>>751890568
Lisa Yuskavage: Blue
>>751878572
It’s pretty gay
>>751850546
>all powerful boogeyman jooos
STFU faggot kafir.
>>751876365
>world's strongest economies
>fanta
>coffee made out of grain
>>751850546
uhh the top one is generic drawings the other ones are different and make you think.
>>751876195
I used to know them. Gimp Da Pimp and Dani Danger of AZ.
>>751850209
Its all a bunch of pretentious self absorbed and self agrangizing garbage
>>751869129
Well to be fair he has to weigh like...120 pounds at that point.
I mean he does have that leg up in the world. Give him a hand for that.
>>751853380
Holy shit...on a "Quick Death" scale of one to ten, that's about a fifteen...
