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Was it justified /b/?
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is this even a debate? i mean, even in countries that dont allow guns this is justified right?
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>>751569018
The world is two millennials lighter thanks to St Byron. MAGA!
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>>751569018
who is this
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Yeah it was justified. He fucked up by recording it and not immediately calling the police though. Also trying to 'clean up' the bodies.
Cunts deserved to die for being drug addict thieves. I bet they would've fucked the old man up if they had found him there and he was unarmed, it happens every day to old people.
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>>751569018
Give some elaboration before asking OP, you fucking inconsiderate faggot.
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>>751569461
Byron Smith, veteran who shot two drug addict burglars who had broken into his home and stole shit multiple times.
He was charged and convicted of murder because he not only recorded audio of it, but waited like a day or more to call police and immediately wrapped at least one of the shithead's bodies in a tarp.
>the scream and pleading from that cunt he shot after his gun jammed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6RGXGgTr6g
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not a hero - just a man nearing the end of his life who got his revenge

>>751569276
it was because he shot them, and after they fell down the stairs and were completely at his mercy he executed them
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that's kind of fucked up
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>>751569781
Both were going to die from the initial wounds anyway, the male immediately I think.
Old fucker should've never called the police, let the worthless drug addict families wonder what happened to the "precious" children
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>yfw "you're dead"
>yfw "you're dying"
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thats so fucked up, defending yourself gets you life in prison

fucking what

jesus christ
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>>751570089
How? They knew the risks of breaking into homes and were prepared to kill as well.
If that old man wasn't armed, it would've been nothing but a local story about how an elderly person was bludgeoned to death by "youths"
>mfw "Oh my god"
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I think they all suck
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>>751570426
He shouldn't have recorded it or tried to mess with evidence.

Baiting them by hiding his car was also pushing it away from self defense.
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Don't rob houses.
Guy did what he had to.
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>>751569018
Sick old cunt with nothing better to do with his time than to sit a prey on two unarmed idiots.

Try educating society before you take away life you wrinkly old bastard. Rot in hell!
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>>751571190
"Prey"
>Breaking into a strangers house makes you prey
lmao i bet your black
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>>751571190
>prey
They were the predators anon.
If you or a loved one likes to break into houses I hope they die slowly and painfully
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>>751570972
>Baiting them by hiding his car was also pushing it away from self defense.
That's bullshit if they used it in the prosecution
Literally victim blaming
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>>751570972
if they weren't criminals they wouldn't have taken the "Bait"
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>>751571190
Unarmed doesn't mean they aren't dangerous
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>>751571455
Of course they did. He obviously had a shit lawyer. All the recording, hiding the car, lying in wait and manipulating the bodies would prejudice any jury.

If he just put the car in the shop, did not record and just acted surprised they were in there, he would have been fine.
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>>751569018
absolutely. i would have done much worse
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>>751569018
the way i see this case is like this
They had broken into that home more than once before, by doing that they were contributing to that man's dwindling sense of security. he felt unsafe in his own home, which is not what something want a veteran to feel.
Those kids caused a man who used to kill people for a living to solve a problem the only way he knew how. they earned what they got.
100% wished they'd have suffered more
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>>751571928
In a just world, the cunts would've gotten captured alive by some Hannibal Lector mother fucker
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>>751569018
Dude looks like he was bound to kill someone eventually so why not with the thieves?
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>act like a nigger
>get shoot like a nigger
simple and ok
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Jesus Christ that is so old why don't we just debate the OJ Simpson murder trial of Jessica Simpson. Or better yet why don't we debate pic related
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>>751569018
Not justified in waiting so long and making it seem as though he was going to try and hide the whole thing before coming to his senses
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>>751573150
It's almost as she's got a second pair of eyes in her hair, covered by her sunglasses
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>>751570315
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If you plan on killing someone, it's murder.
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>>751573573
How is war not murder than
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He didn’t report it the night it happened because he didn’t wanna bother the coppers on thanksgiving. He the real mvp for that one
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>>751573761
Because the point of war is to die for your country dumbass haven't you ever seen a movie
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>>751569745
This is murder.

But I understand.
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>>751570972
When I walk by a house and see that there is no car parked there I keep walking; not break into it.
I am not a nigger criminal scum to Skyrim or her people.
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>>751574018
He was 63 fuck it, take out some vermin while you can
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>>751569745
This is legal in Texas.
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>>751574230
It is so obvious that most people on 4chan have no life whatsoever. That women could have been someone you loved if not for the fact that you have no one in your life, and no your waifu pillow doesn't count.
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>>751575225
No one I love is going to go niggering around in other people's homes
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>>751571553
Who cares if they were criminals, the penalty for breaking and entering isnt death by firing squad. Fuck this old psycho cunt, acting like hes doing a public service by murdering two kids. As if he had the right to act like judge jury and executioner.
Plenty of people do stupid shit as kids and grow up to be good people. One of these kids coulda gone on to cure cancer or some shit, but now theyre dead because some old cunts stuff meant more to him than human life.
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>>751569018
when did they get woody harrison, and when did he start taking meth?
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>>751577559
Suck cock, cuck!
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He executed them after they clearly presented no danger.... it was obviously murder
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>>751577559
where do you live you seem like a good house to rob

this is a very simple case of play stupid games win stupid prizes, who cares if the chick was hor or they where young or whatever, they were robbing a fucking old guy's house. Fuck them.
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Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Don't break into a house where somebody may have a gun and hey presto, you'll probably live.
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>>751578532
theres a judicial system in place to hand down sentences for burglaries.... if someone presents a clear and present danger to your safety you have the right to defend yourself but you don't just get to kill people because they steal your stuff
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>>751571399
"I bet your black". I bet you have a low IQ.
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>>751578809
should've been obvious
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>>751578760
ya lets just let people run around and steal shit with no repercussion outside of waiting for the cops to not show up in time. Also you realize every state has different laws right?
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I don't go around breaking into houses and I don't get shot and killed.... Funny how that works
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>>751579025
>no repercussions
>death penalty

dude you just want to kill somebody and use it as an excuse
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>>751575225
>I'm the kind of person who can be guilted into caring for people who are straight up menaces to society just because they're family.

Woah. This guy's got emotional depth to him. :V
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If you break into my home, you instantly die. Locked up doors and windows mean NOT WELCOME, so if you circumvent those, you are threatening my well being and I will defend myself in any way I see fit.
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>>751579128
you fucking moron if someone willingly breaks into your house to steal from you you should have every right to defend yourself and your property by ending their life. Thats not wanting to kill someone thats wanting to have the right to defend yourself and your property. They have no business invading your property and have no reason to be doing so outside of nefarious reasons. They have no regard for you so why should you have any regard for them. How much of a cuck do you have to be to think its wrong to be harsh to people doing horrible things to you? Its not like im going out of my way to get people to invade my house.
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>>751579426
Again, there is a judicial system for a reason. A few hundred dollars in stolen THINGS isnt a good enough reason to kill someone.
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>>751579705
god you are missing the point, you've clearly never been robbed.
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>>751579426
>you fucking moron

hur dur cry more bitch

executing someone who's begging for their life is not "defending yourself and your property"

despite how much you desperately want to rid the world of people you deem shitty the law doesn't allow an individual to declare themselves judge, jury, and executioner

if I'm on the jury and you pull that shit you're getting raped up the ass by a nigger named bubba for the rest of your life
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>>751579778
On the contrary ive had 2 vehicles stolen off my driveway before, neither time did i feel willing to end someones life over it. You and it seems 90% of your shithole country need anger management training and a priority check.
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>>751579862
lmao white knights cant think straight, I hope you guys get robbed at gun point or have your property invaded.
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>>751579862
>>751579920
Good Lord.

Pussies.
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>>751580020
redneck
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>>751580020
sadistic faggot
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>>751579996
>robbed at gunpoint
>two unarmed teens who were murder after they no longer posed a threat

how the fuck do you not see the difference?
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>>751580061
Yes
>>751580073
Not at all
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>>751580180
if you invaded my house and were pillaging my basement I would shoot you too, granted I would do it according to local law and would call the cops.
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>>751580261
i bet you tortured animals as a child
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>>751569018
They broke into his fucking house, it was justified as hell
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>>751580353
also multiple times
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>>751580292
thats all I'm asking.... defend yourself in accordance with the law, not putting another couple rounds in them point blank while they're already bleeding out
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I think he went overboard but still say they'd be alive today if they didn't have a habit of breaking into people's houses.

He shot the girl once or twice, then dragged her to another location and then shot her under the chin. There was no struggle.
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>>751580416
but fuck them they were invading some vets house for drug money, the guy probably is not of sound mind, the fuck did they expect him to just hand his shit over to them? "Here kiddos, steal my shit!"
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>>751580547
again you are not judge, jury, and executioner... they were obviously shitheads but being a shitty person does not mean they deserved a death sentence
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>>751580317
I would hedge that bet
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>>751578809
Yep nigger detected...
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>>751580773
>cuck
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>>751581057
white trash
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>>751569018
he should have been given the death penalty, premeditated murder...
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>>751578641
the converse is true too. shoot people who are already wounded and no longer pose a threat - go to prison for the rest of your life.

For those who think being 63 is time to sacrifice your life to rid the world of two drug addicts no nothing of life. There is nothing here to root for, everybody lost.
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>>751569276
On November 22, 2012, Kifer and Brady broke into Smith's home. Video surveillance captured the teens casing the property prior to the break-in.[10] By his own account to police, Smith was in the basement when he shot Brady twice at the top of the basement stairs, and once in the face fatally after he fell to the bottom of the stairs. Minutes later when Kifer entered the basement, he shot her at the top of the stairs. Wounded, she fell down the stairs, and after Smith's rifle jammed, he shot her multiple times in the chest with a 22-caliber revolver, dragged her across the floor to set her beside the body of her cousin, and then shot her fatally under the chin.[1] Smith then waited until Friday to have a neighbor call police, saying that he did not want to bother law enforcement on Thanksgiving
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>>751581371
fuck *know*
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>>751581467
how anybody can even ague that as justifiable self defense is fucking terrifying
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>>751569745
I'm sure glad I don't live in a third world country that permits homeowners to execute people
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>>751581597
how anyone can think or argue that you are supposed to just stand there and call the cops like a cuck and wait while people rob you or your house is fucking terrifying.
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>>751581694
why do you rob houses?
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>>751570535
>elderly person was bludgeoned
literally no problem with this. Fuck old people honestly. Parasites of society.
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>>751569018
why do everyone ask me about my opinion on everything all the time?? i don't know who that faggot is, and i don't care.

and if you faggots have opinions on everything that happens, then you're opinionated fuckheads, who erroneously believe that your opinion matters. it doesn't.

>mfw
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>>751569018
No. There is never a justification for execution, unless you're part of ISIS and you think it is your divine right.

He is an evil man and I'm glad he can no longer own firearms.
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>>751581709
>stand there and call the cops like a cuck
>dragged her across the floor to set her beside the body of her cousin
>then shot her fatally under the chin

you should see a therapist
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>>751579028
In America you get shot and killed regardless.
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>>751581847
I mean you are the one apologizing over some young adults invading an old guys house and stealing from him, kind of an ironic statement to make.
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>>751580073
>>751580890
Lol
Nah
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>>751569745
>execution in self defense
only in murica.
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>>751581978
stealing from an old man makes you a shitty person who deserves to go to jail for 5-10 years

executing someone lying defenseless on the floor makes you a murderer
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>>751581777
checked
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>>751581694
agree. the medieval conditions murifats live under is pretty fucked. it's like living in somalia.
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>>751581777
checked.. and it actually does matter because any ordinary citizen can be called upon for jury duty
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>>751581978
Haha crazy and rerarded nice combo you got going on there wheetus.
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>>751569018
Premeditated murder, should have Gotten the death penalty
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I didn't realize /b/ was full of cool guys that are totally cool with people invading their houses, can you guys post addresses pls? We should totally hang out and discuss gun control.
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>>751582387
>implying anyone itt is in the jury
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>>751582176
so next time someone invades my house I should tell them to stop nicely after I call the cops? What he did was far from normal but don't tell me you don't have a right to defend yourself in a situation, certainly your not that big of a cuck.
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What kind of lord of the flies niggerville caveman rule is this?


America really needs to join the civilised world. But it’s so retarded it would rather drag the rest of us into lawless niggerville along with it.

I blame Christianity lowering education standards to the point of retardation
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>>751582107
Hahahahahahahahahahaha
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>>751582615
Execution is not self defense... I'm done, you're obviously just looking for an excuse because you've imagined a scenario like that a million times and were always fascinated about what it would feel like to legally kill someone
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>>751582742
Agreed
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>>751582911
you never answered the question

btw I don't even own firearms you are just a moron lol

Do stupid shit have stupid shit happen to you, its not a hard concept.
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>>751582742
Sounds about right
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>>751582317
Fuck!! Do you Eurofags have any balls anymore? Or has your government snipped them off for good?
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>>751569018
Fuck no.
He just cummed at the idea of killing someone, and jumped at an opportunity to do it.
Hadde he shot them, and they died that would be one thing. But he murdered incapacitated and pleading teens.

And no, this wouldnt be legal in most countries where guns arent allowed. I think they only western country where this is even a question is the US.
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>>751569018
This must be like what /pol/ is in real life. Crazy fucks who don't know they are crazy.
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>>751570939
Yes.
Just dickbags in this story, dickbags everywhere.
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>>751583223
You would exchange a functioning and cohesive society for the ability to hug a gun and the fantasy you’ll one day get to shoot a home invader.

Meanwhile, I get free healthcare, free schooling, welfare if I’m out of work, paternity leave, 35 days paid vacation, worker rights protections etc etc etc

All you get is cucked.

Enjoy it, cuck
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>>751583223
enjoy living in a wrecked pile of trash of a country. i prefer civilization.
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>>751583027
i already answered your bullshit question multiple times

He had a right to defend himself but once there is no longer a threat he cannot continue to execute someone who's lying defenseless on the floor
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>>751583380
ya he should of been robbed blind instead!
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>>751583027
Kys
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>>751569745
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>>751582742
The world where muslims gentrify whole neighborhoods for you, making it a little Mosul? Just wait? This shit's coming for you.
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>>751583524
You even get free chocolate.
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>>751581694
I think that's the idea, they want you to stay in your country and not theirs
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>>751583558
Yes. That would have actually been better.
Human life > your TV
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>>751571190
Idiot
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Drove through America once , coast to coast road trip ...like they do in the movies.

What I saw, in comparison to my own country, was poverty everywhere , trailer parks from horizon to horizon....armies of homeless people in every city.

That shit isn’t normal for a non 3rd world country .
Sort your fucking lives out ameritards...you really need someone to invade you and make your lives better
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>>751583617
Still more muslims in the US than in Europe shitbag.
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>>751569745
They got what was coming to them for BREAKING AND ENTERING. Fuck 'em!
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>>751583524
We've always had guns faggot. Since before the Declaration of Independence. A functioning society doesn't mean free handouts for lazy little fuckers like you. And all that cheap labor you're importing from the Middle East is biting you in the ass as you speak. No thank you, Eurofag, I'm fine with the US as is.
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>>751583528
so if say I shoot someone fatally and they are bleeding out the more moral thing to do is let them die in agony?

I never knew euros where so cucked/removed from reality, I'm sorry guys. You will change your tune once you actually encounter any actual hostility/threat in your life. You cant just stand their and open up your asshole everytime like you guys seem to be so willing to do.
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>>751583558
ITT one samefag who keeps giving excuses for why he should be allowed to legally murder someone
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>>751583632
And it’s real chocolate too...not that fucking chocolate flavoured wax substitute you faggots call “chocolate”
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>>751583526
Then why do so many fuckers want to come here? Sounds like you are a jealous little Eurobitch. Which country you from?
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>>751571190
I would do the EXACT SAME THING! Fucking criminals get what they deserve! Bunch of dindus!
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Did they deserve to have tht happen to them? No. Was what he did go beyond self defense? Yes. Do I feel bad for them? Fuck no. Should he be charged? No. They brought it upon themselves.
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>>751583842
The moral thing to do is call an ambulance.
I sincerely hope you're never the first at the scene of a crash.
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>>751583842
I'm american you white trash cocksucker... and the moral thing to do would be to call 911 not put a bullet in their head as they plead for their life
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>>751583810
Wrong, asswipe.
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>>751583825
See, so retarded they actually attack you for trying to lift them out of their hovel filled with their own shit.

Fine, stay on your shot filled hovel ...see if you can dig yourself out of it
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>>751583632
it's funny when americunts use racial diversity as a way to make fun of europe. i mean, if diversity is your definition of failure, then you're just saying europe is better than murica.
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>>751583810
Not by percentage of population.

Lazy little Eurofags. Do you guys even work? Been living off our backs forever, why don't you guys put some skin in the game? Or is that too much for your civilized little bitches to do?
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>>751583867
I like how murder = shooting someone invading your house

notice how this is not a scenario that occurs without some shit head invading your house doing god knows what. You don't assume things like that in a situation like that. You deserve to be shot for breaking and entering into someones house unwarrantedly, you have no excuse to be doing this or any moral savior to it whatsoever. These kids where trash.
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>>751584062
Importing cheap labor, is not racial diversity, you obtuse faggot.
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>>751583922
You have good PR in certain shitholes. GJ.
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>>751583920
Glad you enjoy that particular type of chocolate so much.
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>>751583774
Who gives a shit? I dont live in a trailer park, do you? This ridiculous fascination with other people's standard of living makes no sense.
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>>751584018
they would of bleed out by the time the ambulance showed up retard
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>>751584094
>I like how murder = shooting someone invading your house

No this is murder

>Minutes later when Kifer entered the basement, he shot her at the top of the stairs. Wounded, she fell down the stairs, and after Smith's rifle jammed, he shot her multiple times in the chest with a 22-caliber revolver, dragged her across the floor to set her beside the body of her cousin, and then shot her fatally under the chin.[1] Smith then waited until Friday to have a neighbor call police, saying that he did not want to bother law enforcement on Thanksgiving
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>>751584043
We're fine. You're the one being a condescending little cunt. How much money does you country actually pay to defend itself? Or is that something you choose to put on our shoulders exclusively?
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>>751583922
Because retards believe that the hamburger they see in the advert is the same as the hamburger they’ll get served in the restaurant.

Some people are retarded - and those retards believe the USs’ false advertising.

I’ve travelled extensively. All over the world.
America is a shit hole I would not want to go back to...ever
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>>751584130
>triggered because his poorly though out argument failed
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>>751584094
>shooting someone invading your house
Not what he was charged for. He was charged for the executions he did AFTER shooting them.
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>>751584201
Not your judgment call to make asshole
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>>751584155
I guess you don't have a country or you're country is easy to make fun of. Run off, Eurofag. I'm sure there is a Blacked thread on here somewhere for you.
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>>751573150
>Jesus Christ that is so old why don't we just debate the OJ Simpson murder trial of Jessica Simpson.
You retard. OJ murdered Nicole Brown Simpson. Jessica Simpson is his daughter.
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>>751575225

>>751575225
Whole lotta NOPE... Nobody in my life would break into another person's house. Let this be a lesson to would be criminals. GOOD citizens are armed and willing take the garbage OUT.
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>>751584378
kek
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>>751584158
See, in a stable functioning society, immigration and asylum is just a thing that happens. We have the reserves to absorb it.

In a non functioning rat infested shit hole - the hovel dwellers fight amongst themselves at any new dwellers in their hovel .
You are clearly the latter
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>>751577559
>They dindu nuffin
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>>751584425
>think of the children!
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>>751584257
Fine by me. Why would we want your bitch ass to return? Live wherever the fuck you want. Just don't be a condescending little shit, when our military is putting an umbrella over your ungrateful asses.
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>>751584339
Hah, Im Norwegian. Where could I go to have more freedom, to be safer or more productive?
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>>751578330


>>751578330
>executed them after they clearly presented no danger
Ever heard of being beaten to death? Do you presume to know their intentions? Fuck that. I just wish there was video so I could have watched them get lead justice.
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>>751584422
Checked
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>>751584495
#salty-milkshake
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>>751584608
>I just wish there was video so I could have watched them get lead justice.

Then you've revealed your true motivations.. and it isn't self defense
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>>751569563
agreed
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>>751583922
why do people go to experience war? they probably just want to see some fucked up shit.
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>>751584732
No, he’s revealed his true intention and it’s 4chan shitposting.
This faggot is 14.

Mom says his ramen is ready.
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>>751579311
>If you break into my home, you instantly die.
What, is your house rigged with nerve gas?
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Money isnt the issue its the mental state. His actions are justified. He will no longer fear if they will rob him again. He can rest easy not be in fesr of getting murdered in his sleep.
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>>751584847
Now all he has to worry about is who's bitch he's going to be tonight
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I can't wait for America to cuck itself to the point where you're welcome to walk in a man's house, rob them, rape everything, and grab a beer on your way out.
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>>751584945
ya bubba is really gonna try and sleep with some old crazed war vet who "executed" 2 kids.
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>>751584495
>military
If/when WW3 starts it will be because of America not in spite of it.
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>>751584608
I haven't revealed anything, shitskin... THEY were the criminals. THEY broke into a home and assumed a certain amount of risk. That risk was THEIRS to take by breaking in. The homeowner has EVERY right to defend his home and castle. Only a FUCKING CRIMINAL would see otherwise. Who's house are you looking to rob, dindu?
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>>751585028
one can dream
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I've never even heard of this case until this thread.

Oh right, the 'victims' were white...
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Shooting people during a home invasion is wrong now? You might as well just bend over and take a deep breath...
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>>751584978
Stfu cringelord
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>>751585039
Then defend yourselves. Pony up on the shit that counts. Stop importing your oil from Russia. Stop passing off your wars on us. Stop importing cheap labor and calling it racial diversity. Get off your asses and work.
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>>751585129
hur dur im a delicate snowflake who wants an excuse to murder
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>>751585173
I mean if that was the reason its not in the media wouldn't the alt left be trying to blow this the fuck up to prove/show that media is biased?
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>>751585249
U mad?
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>>751581694
I don't think third worlders care what laws say. They'd probably do much worse things to burglars than simply shoot them.
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>>751585129
See, lawless niggerville that is the US of Etc

It’s not the Wild West anymore Bill Cassidy...your opinion and outlook is about 200 years out of date
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>>751585302
ya have you seen what african tribes do to some of their criminals?
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>>751585272
>delicate snowflake
>trying to murder people

What are you even on about?
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>>751584545
Don't the Swedes call your asses niggers?
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>>751584978
The solution is that if you end up defending yourself and your home and end up taking a life, you have to dispose of the bodies... Or else it's somehow YOUR fault for not laying down and surrendering. Better invest in a wood chipper with that gun purchase...
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>>751584642
Truth hurts.
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>>751569018
He did nothing wrong. I hope he gets to kill more young cunts.
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>>751584766
Don't want war, unfortunately it happens. Europe should know all about war, since you caused the last 2 ones that involved the world.
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>>751585358
My bad... I didn't realize just how cucked you were. Principals of right and wrong should NEVER change. Not in 200 years, not in 2000.
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>>751569018
Did nothing wrong,deserves a medal honestly,we got too many dumb motherfuckers running around who think they can do whatever they want with a slap on the wrist.
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>>751585358
So would you let a couple of niggers rape your wife, while you hide in a closet calling the cops? I hope you wouldn't.
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>>751585398
Jews won. Game over.
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>>751585129
HE shot her multiple times in the chest with a 22-caliber revolver AFTER she fell wounded down the stairs... HE DRAGGED her across the floor to set her beside the body of her cousin... and then HE shot her fatally under the chin. HE then waited until Friday to have a neighbor call police, saying that he did not want to bother law enforcement on Thanksgiving

you're a piece of shit if you think thats self defense... that is murder
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>>751585265
How about you faggots stop spending retarded amounts on your military fuelling global conflicts and spend it on infrastructure and social programs instead of blowing shit up .
My countries army is the one they have to send in after the US has fucked off to its next pointless half finished war to actually rebuild the country and make it function again.
You can’t even army good. Despite all the money you waste on it.
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tbh your just a fucking white trash right wing biggot if you dont immediately drop your pants the second jamal hops through your window
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>>751569018
On April 29, 2014, Byron David Smith was found guilty on two counts of first-degree murder with premeditation and on two counts of second-degree murder after three hours of jury deliberations. He was immediately sentenced to life in prison without parole.[4] The audio recordings were named by the jurors as the biggest influence on their decision. "That was the most damning piece of evidence in my mind," Wes Hatlestad, one of 12 jurors, said following the trial. "That audio recording of the actual killings and the audio recording of Mr. Smith's interview immediately after his arrest ... pretty much convinced me that we were dealing with a deranged individual."

Sounds like the way he handled the break-in was unnecessarily overkill. But other than that, he was in his right to defend his home from intruders. I just have this feeling that he knew they were unarmed, he knew they were two teen girls, and he knew he didn't' have to straight up execute them by headshot at point blank range.

I don't think he should have gotten life in prison, but I do think he's a piece of shit would couldn't control his wrath.
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>>751579705
The point isn't that they're stealing your shit. The point is that they have broken into your home and it's fair to assume that they are armed and will try to kill you if confronted.
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>>751585419
Yes, it IS a salty milkshake isn’t it
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>>751585654
There are still some of us who aren't affraid to stand for our principals. And we SHOOT people who break into our homes.
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>>751585755
I'd totally agree with this if I didn't read the whole story.
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>>751585518
>the last 2 ones that involved the world.
>the ones that of which there were two of that were the last of wars involving all of what is called the world.
it's called a "world war", m8. now you can stop writing like a fucking spastic. thank me later.
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>>751585640
That happens a lot in the US of Etc?
It never happens here.

You must live in a lawless niggerville
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Non-gun owning American here. Don't own guns because with kids in the house, it isn't worth the risk to me. But I have no problem with people shooting intruders. You want to roll the dice and break in to another man's house, in this case, multiple times? Then anything that happens as a result is your fault.
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>>751585679
You are right, that's not self-defense... It's fucking lovely!
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>>751585699
Bullshit!! That's what you'd like to believe, or your stupid fucked up government feeds you. Your government wants us to spend the amount it does on the military, because they know their cucked up population doesn't have the will or firepower to defend itself. Your social programs and infrastructure is built off of us defending your lazy asses. You don't want us to defend you, then pony up buttercup.
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>>751585901
And there are some of us who aren't affraid to stand for our principals. And we convict people who declare themselves judge and jury
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>>751569018
https://youtu.be/r6RGXGgTr6g?t=42s

Found the real audio recording and 3d visual to go with it
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>>751569745
If I was on the jury I would have gave him a not guilty. Everything he says here is true.
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>>751585745
Literally this
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>>751572202
He should have kept her locked in his basement for... reasons.
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>>751586061
Our military is for self Defense , not for profit.

Check who’s cucked - that’s where your tax dollars are really going .
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>>751586063
>I'm too afraid to make a moral call in a threatening situation
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>>751585838
More like my points kicked you in whats left of your balls. But you keep telling yourself what you want to believe. You Eurofags are so good at that.
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>>751573150
>debate pic related

Who are they anon? whats the story
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>>751585959
And where did that world war begin m8?
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>>751586203
>points
(Citation needed)

Salty milkshake with an extra shake of salt
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>>751585974
Arabs don't rape your woman? Surely you jest.
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>>751585901
And then execute the survivors?
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>>751585679
Both parties are at fault.

Stupid kids break into someone's house
They can either steal and damage property, and injure or kill the occupants of the house.
The house owner has every right to defend his property, even if it means taking lethal action.

The owner in this case is a sadist, it was obvious he was waiting for an opportunity to kill.
He didn't need to kill the intruders at all in this scenario. However, you need to take into account that the entire event was instigated by the burglars. He should be sentenced to life imprisonment because he did commit murder even if it was a provoked attack.
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>>751586063
There are also some of us who would go on a rampage if arrested for self-defense.
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>>751586361
Where is there most rape? US or Europe?
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>>751586124
Where'd you find it? This thread? >>751569745
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Look at all these euro pussies you make me sick pic relate
these euros are so fucking brinwashed that they LIKE being defenseless
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>>751586187
You couldn't defend yourself if shit when down with the Russians. Not in a million years. Guess where you'll come running to if shit goes down. Don't fool yourself.
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>>751571648
Source?
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>>751586361
You may be surprised to learn that Breitbart isn’t a real news outlet.

I can confirm, no female I have ever encountered has ever been raped by an Arab .

How many girls you know been raped cuz?
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>>751586359
No citation needed. All the points are in this thread for all to see.
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>>751586372
You don't leave a downed attacker to escape or pull a gun on you, that's survival 101, son.
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>>751583774
Your county is full of barbarians raping your women you're a fucking loser for not doing anything about it
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>>751586479
Careful. We are more populous. So you will have to break it down by countries in you stupid union and then factor in the percentage.
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>>751573573
I think of it as premeditated self defense. He was in his home, at his age given the fact he had been practically harassed to the point of snapping, I think he should get off on one them "crazy state of mind" charges.

>>751573761
State sanctioned murder. For a greater good maybe, but so were these killings. Those 2 would have been the meth addled pair that eventually killed somebody. But thanks to the fact that draft dodging hippies during vietnam got to stay safe at home fuck ugly bitches and smoke pot we have a nation of apologetic pussies now.

>>751573923
Seconded. Kek.
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>>751586552
And if “shit went down” with the Russians, it would be because of US aggression.

You niggerville cavemen need eradicating for the good of the planet
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>>751569745
That is indeed murder.
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>>751586400


>>751586372
Yes, if they're still a threat. FUCKING YES!
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>>751586768
Shooting burglars is murder? KEK
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>>751586615
>(Citation needed)
>can’t find a single citation of one of his “points”

Who’s a good boy.
You’re a good boy.
You’re doing ever so well for a retard.
Well done. Go you.
Gold Star
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>>751586835
Did you even read anything about what happened?
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>>751577559
I can see you've never been robbed before. They don't just take your possessions, anon, they take your dignity and your sense of security.

Imagine what it feels like to not feel safe in your own home because some junkie decided he needed a few bucks for his next fix and you were just the idiot he landed on to do it.

Fuck you for this comment I hope you fuckin rot bro.
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What he should have done is shot them, let them bleed to death, then called the cops and said "help, theres someone trying to break into my house!" Then, when they show up an hour later, he just has to say "too late, I had to take care of the problem myseld."
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>>751586611
I don't read Breitbart, so I wouldn't know.

No girls, you know have been raped? I call bullshit. Or more to the truth, you don't know that many women.

The point is, if someone broke into your home to do anything, you would sit there like a little child and beg them to let you go. No balls. No testosterone. What the fuck happened to you Eurofags? You used to be pimps.
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>>751570426
Learn the law faggot
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>>751586923
just buy a gun and laugh at him anon
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>>751570535
They were not armed?
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>>751586753
Why doesnt europe have a military that can defend its own country, your people are so shit that they cant defend themselves you suck on ameicas tit like a baby
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>>751586768
Ok, next burglary is at your house. Since there's no threat of being shot. You wouldn't mind, right, cuck?
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>>751586835
Funny how retards like you are all “illegals is bayad”
Until you want to do something illegal.
Lawless. Niggerville
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>>751571190
Death is not the penalty for robbery.
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>>751587047
where is niggerville btw do they have good fried chicken and good drugs? Sounds like a good time.
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killing them: yes, that's self defense
Not telling immediately the cops: no, that's involuntary homicide at this point
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>>751586753
The only aggressive one is Russia. Or haven't you noticed what's been happening in the Ukraine? Think they will stop there? Keep lying to yourself Eurofag, but we both know what would happen if Russia decided to go a little further, and where you bitch asses will come running to for help.
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>>751587097

ya dont forget to be nicer to the people robbing your house :(
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>>751587020
We do.
America can’t even fulfill its obligations of its armies - citing bullshit reasons that amount to “but we want to prop up this puppet government dictator in the Middle East” while The Civilised World tried to actually sort shit out.

You shouldn’t believe your own false advertising cuck, just makes you look retarded
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>>751586835
When did I say illegals are bad? What's next, I'm a nazi? I'm Russian? Voted for Trump? You have it all figured out, Scott.
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>>751586923
There's a case-by-case consideration to make.
Huge man chases 14 yr old trespasser trying to get into a pub and clubs his skull into fragments with an iron bar when he finds the kid hiding under a laundry sink? Uncool.
Determined robbers arrive to get stuff and who the fuck knows what will happen, get shot or battered? Fair enough.
Anxious dude with a bad back hears someone moving around, gets his shotgun out of the storage, ammo out of the safe and destroys his daughter, drunk and trying to climb in her own window to avoid getting busted? Collateral damage in the gun debate.
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>>751586912
Jesus. Just stop typing faggot. It's better for you in the long run. Bow out with some of your dignity attached.
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>>751587127
North of Mexico , south of Canada
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>>751586915
Yes. Were they not burglars?
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>>751587324
oh lawd i is in heavn
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>>751587206
You can tell who’s the aggressor by how far from ones own borders your troops are stationed .

America is clearly an aggressor
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>>751587321
#salty milkshake
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>>751586912
cringe
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as somebody who owns a rental property that was regularly burglarized by a well known crackwhore pair in my little town that the police did nothing about and the judges kept letting go... I understand.

Pic semi related, probably what cry cry liberals favorite bitch would have looked like in a few years after getting arrested for killing an old man.

You want to make an example of somebody in this case? You want to make the world better? Heres how.

Let the old fucker go no charges.

Make a fucking psa, they sure do enough of em for pot smoking, make a psa, put it on every channel
>this is what happens when you use drugs and burglarize somebody's home.

Thats if you want to address the real problem. I personally dont condone the old mans actions. But I cant really fault him either. He had been victimized several times.
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>>751587484
Wtf the hashtag won't work:(
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>>751587436
Lets just lob nukes at everyone and keep our troops home. Then we can't possibly be the aggressors. It's so easy!
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He could have taken the female down easily and secured her and called the police and handed her over. Killing the guy is self defense for sure, but idk about the girl. He obviously defended himself but I doubt it was necessary to kill her when she could have been easily subdued.
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>>751586124
Just another sadist out there, sittin around thinking of killing all day.
>how can i get to kill someone?
>i know! i'll make the place look easy and sit here with my guns!
not exactly batman.
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>>751587546
lets just nuke everything and then everyone wins
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>>751581694
I'm sure glad I don't live in a country where defending yourself, your home, loved ones and livelihood from those who seek to do them harm is illegal.
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>>751587546
You tried.
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>>751587330
Then you're even dumber than I anticipated.
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>>751587252
Bullshit. That's what your propaganda spewing government would like you to believe. Do you even know what your NATO obligation is for your country?
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>>751587310
Eggs===>Omelette. ALWAYS gotta break a few. These idiots you mentioned should have been moar responsible with their weapons.
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>>751587484
#salty bitch
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>>751587653
Argument of the year, right here...
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>>751587523
>I personally dont condone the old mans actions. But I cant really fault him either
Then you do condone his actions, not condemning this murder is approval.
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>>751583617
>What is Dearborn Michigan
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>>751587523
THIS!
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>>751587252
>sort shit out
How? Peace talks only accomplish so much with third world savages
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>>751573150
It's too earyl
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>>751587796
That is what can happen when you burglarize people. They get pissed off when the Law becomes impotent and they mow your ass down... Don't break the law, assholes, and you won't have to worry about it!
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>>751587800
Our population can absorb it. Yours can't.
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>>751583632
USS Chimp Boat
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>>751582387
And then your opinion matters, but right now it really does not.
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>>751586246
Will Hayden, owner of a gunsmith shop. "Molested his daughter" as shown left. And some other grils.
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>>751587796
I believe he's referring to the illegal part of the old man waiting a day before calling police and covering the bodies and shit. As far as shooting them goes, he was well within his rights.
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