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I want to ask /b/'s American users this: do you have more money, better quality of life, and/or a safer community after 1 year of this guy?
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>>750969192

Yes. Though I'm not sure it had anything to do with Trump. I'm an immigrant, and this year in May I stole an American's job as an automotive design engineer.

Earn good money now with full benefits. My wife stole another job in a chemical company that pays $20/hour.
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>>750969333
Since you're terming it as "stealing", does that mean you're an illegal immigrant?

Because if you're there legally it can't really be called stealing, I mean they let you in...
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>>750969192
Yes actually but its circumstantial based on area I live in and it has nothing to do with the president. Anything the government does has very little effect on me. The fed on the other hand....
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>>750969192
nope
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>>750969473
He means "steal" as in affirmative action
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>>750969192
direct answer to the question is yes.
long drawn out one... fill in what you want to hear.
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>>750969473
He means steal as in received an outsourced job.
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>>750969473

I mean "steal" as in if I never immigrated here I'm certain the job would've gone to an American. There were loads of Americans interviewing for the job.

I got it by undercutting the market by $20,000.
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>>750969633
Calm your tits. The question isn't primarily political - I'm asking people how they've been doing in the last year.
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>>750969192
I can't really attribute changes in any of those categories to Donnie Boy. The only real change I've noticed is the internet is a little more retarded than this time last year.
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>>750969704
Fair call, thanks for explaining
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>>750969192
More money? Yes although only because ive been working due to being of age
>>750969192
Better quality of life? Yes although because vidyas are dank right now and muns

>>750969192
Safer community? No because my community was already safe i guess living in a small town does that
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>>750969540
You expect him to do that in a year? Lol retarded liberal
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>>750969948
he said he would.
LOL retarded trumpfag
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Trump is a disappointment. He promised no to intervene in other countries and Syria happened. He promised the wall and not even a brick has been laid.
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>>750969192
Omg who gives a shit
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>>750969192
I do actually oddly enough, but I dont think it's because of Trump. I've no interest in politics and news shit anymore so I dont even know what he's done while in office. My insurance costs have gone down though, and I got a bigger raise than usual by a pretty good amount.
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I-is America great again yet? This billionaire promised it was his reason for wanting to be president, so confused
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>>750969601
I want to hear the real deal from the average joe.

I don't live in the US so I honestly don't know what to think of your president, or even if I did think something, whether it would be relevant.

I just want each person's experience.
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>>750970220
my insurance cost will be going up in January and for less coverage. Thanks trump.
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Doesn’t “make America great again” mean that America is currently shit?
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>>750969192
>better quality of life, and/or a safer community after 1 year of this guy?
Did anyone have that after one year of Obama? No. After 8 years? No.
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>>750969192
My stock portfolio has gone up 22% this year. So, yes I do have more money.

ALL HAIL THE DEREGULATOR.
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>>750970322
I guess you were still living in mommy's basement during the Bush recession.
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>>750970264
He can't make the swamp enact laws, they have to do it themselves. And everyone but You knows that the rate increase is due to Obama care.
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>>750970322
So what’s your answer to op’s question? And are you happy having been lied to?
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same, i live in nyc, no effect from trump except my salty tears as a liberal
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>>750970434
Obama sucked and You know it.
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>>750970434
and you were still studying economics from a transgendered fruit loop. make more assumptions
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>>750970460
Eat Me you douche
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>>750969192
Yes
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>>750969192
>and/or a safer community after 1 year of this guy?
the only thing that's changed is niggers are madder about not being in charge anymore. get over it
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>>750970434
Were those stats taken in Obama's first year, before he fixed the GOP mess?
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VOTE DECEMBER 12
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>>750969192

Let's see..well since he came into office, there's now a long ass queue to become a u.s citizen. I'm a resident btw. So who knows when it'll be my turn. AND the cost to become citizen was almost tripled to about 1500$. Been getting harrassed alot more by old\middleaged white authority like code enforcement, local animal services, ECT ECT. On stupid ass shite. A lot of murders happening not only locally but across the nation. Nothing close to me yet though. That's pretty much all I got so far here in Florida.


Btw I don't vote. But if I did. I still wouldn't because none of the candidates are\were\ever will be suitable for presidency. I don't do "sides".
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>>750969540
bitter people never prosper.
looks like its your fault snowflake
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>>750970604
the dates are on there.

>>750970550
I had some econ classes when I was earning my BBA degree, but that was in the 80's

>>750970532
you spelled Bush wrong
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>>750969704
sure kid
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>>750970434
Bush Jr. inherited a huge surplus and a great economy from Clinton, Obama had to deal with Bush's destroyed economy. He did his best to fix it, but now we have Trump. Those numbers have to be from when he inherited Bush's mess.
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>>750971079
>snowflake
trump is the bitterest fucker out there so I guess you're right
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>>750970037
stay mad kid
nice selfie BTW
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>>750970264
you mean obama
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>>750971109
yes, the red ones are when Obama started. The green ones are towards the end of presidency.
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>>750970434
that happened right after tbe democrat takeover of congress.
stay mad kid
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>>750971167
no. I mean trump. him and these two mongs are the ones trying to sabotage the Affordable Care Act
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>>750970604
blames the republican for democrat mistakes
stay mad kid
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>>750971167
start loving your dump care
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Politics are a personality cult.

Really that's it.

Words of the grandfather,

I served in Nam, came back home, and went back to work. It's all a shit show kid.
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>>750971203
no u
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>>750971109
sure kid
this must be the dumbed down version.
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>>750971116
stzy mad kid
lmao every day
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>>750971084
Trump inherited Obama's success at fixing Bush's failures. Look up what Bush Jr. left behind. You don't remember the market crash, or the war spending?
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>>750971243
sure kid
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>>750971136
oh look! it's putin again.
> the taste of communist cock forever permanent

kill all russians.
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>>750971254
what a bitter childish answer
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Thanks for the laugh, America.
-planet earth
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>>750971275
stay mad kid
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Depends on how you define some of those but largely "yes" because none of those things have anything to do with whomever is in office. If you're so unwell-off that the machinations of the President teeter your precarious social position, I suggest you manifest a new destiny alongside some new priorities.
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>>750971317

Market crash was due to Clintons housing policies.

Also, hes not Bush Jr. Different middle name than his dad.
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>>750971336
did you post this last week
you know what happened
the FBI is looking for you.
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>>750971361
so weak
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>>750971379
not an argument

kid
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>>750971245
Typical red argument. No facts. No counter anything. Just a false statement. Some would call it false news.
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>>750969192
Why so short-termist?
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Why are all trump threads filled with people screaming “kid”? I mean, the only people who’d be upset by that claim are kids, and I can only imagine the only people who’d consider it an insult are also kids. Oh and it’s almost always trump supporters who scream “kid”.
>lol
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>>750969192
How can you tell?
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>>750971463
you are correct.
what you posted is not an argument
kid
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>>750971478
weak
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>>750971502
it's the samefag, "sure kid" one thread after another. that's happens when copy and paste is taught to middle schoolers, specifically the one newfag.
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>>750971602
I hear he doesn't post in /pol/.
why don't you go there?
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>>750971675
so bitter
I can hear the tears hitting the keyboard.
lmao
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>>750970037
All the liberals I know just listen to the news headlines and don't look into any facts, get a job you loser.
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>>750971245
>>750971281
same fag

You just believe anything with flashy printing? Clinton gave Bush a clean office. Bush destroyed the office. Then, Obama came in and clean it up again. When I say office, I mean taxes, budget, world relations, public approval, jobs, respect for the office (lack of immature twitter rants and Stern interviews/history of infomercials)... etc Trump hasn't kept to his "First Hundred Days" promise, nor has he drained the swamp. He created a new one. What the fuck is his son in law doing there?
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>>750970082
Yes he has you fucking retard look it up
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>>750971826
>facts
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>>750971552
Great example. Thanks.
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yes and fuck the queen
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>>750971116
>till living in mommy's b
Well they do call him a racist and a nazi
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>>750970245
Honestly, yes. Been working towards my nursing degree, and Obama made getting jobs impossible unless you're black or hispanic. About two months after Trump's inauguration everything started going good. More jobs are hiring, day-trading on the market boomed, it's all great. I live in a family too poor to receive health insurance, but qualified for multiple full-ride scholarships. Trump is the greatest thing to happen to this country since Kennedy, or maybe Reagan.
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>I’m sure that given that he’s not a politician, I’m sure he’ll make a great politician
>turns out to be an intensely awful politician
Trump supporters truly are the cuck kings. Stunning how much assrape they’ll forgive. Poor little cherubs. Got to feel a bit sorry for them.
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>>750969192
So I do have more money. I would not attribute that to trump but I do have more money...... The shit that trump says/does isnt what puts people at risk. Its the reverberation from the fucking people that think burning rioting looting and slander is a viable way to protest because they are so fucking underdeveloped and uneducated they can't fathom the thought that HEY JACKASS MAYBE JUST MAYBE
TO EXPECT HUNDEREDS OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE TO SHARE THE EXACT SAME THOUGHTS IN A DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY DEFEATS THE PURPOSE OF A DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY. THE WHOLE FUCKING REASON IT "WORKS" IS BECAUSE WE THINK DIFFERENTLY.


TL;DR,
Yes I have more money
No trump doesnt bother me
Its the snowflakes and the niggers that are the problem. Not trump.
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>>750969192
Yes, in fact every year has been better than the last and it had far more to do with hard work and good life choices than Trump, Obama, Bush or Clinton.
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>>750969192
I have more money. I own more guns too. So more money and safer yes technically.
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>>750971949
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>>750972038
Lived in both New Jersey and Florida by the way
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>>750972079
just continuing the upward momentum Obama started
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>>750971986
so weak
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>>750971949
stay mad kid
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>>750972127
Too afraid to admit it libfag? That's cute, you liberals never could accept facts
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>>750971393
The market crash was not due to Clinton's housing policy.
It was from decades of American financial deregulation a making the market more volatile. In economics you have two main schools of thought, the European and the American. Europeans tend to focus on long term investments making them less profitable but more stable. On the other hand you have Americans who trade fast and don't pursue long term investments, making them more profitable but less stable.
It is a combination of this school of financial markets and the fact that it was deregulated to a point where banks did what they wanted instead of what was good. In Canada they have a regulated banking system which would prevent them from doing what happened in 2008 with the US.
It wasn't Clinton, it was decades of American financial risk and it back fired hard on everyone thanks to seeling subprime mortgages hidden in CDO's.
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>>750971910
sure kid
stay mad
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>>750972127
sure kid
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>>750972196
sure kid
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>>750969704
Ha! Fucking SJW's
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>>750972127
That is far too complicated for most Trump tards to understand. It's not in meme format and doesn't have a Fox news or at least some kind of American flag patriotic bullshit logo somewhere.
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>>750972186
>>750972200
I'm not mad, same fag. I'm not the only one to point it out in this thread. Lurk young one, lurk.
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>>750969192
It hasn’t been a year yet.
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>>750972293
sure kid
stay mad
you don't even know what same fagging is
lmao
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>>750969633
Why are you making the nazi look like a jew?
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>>750972267
yawn
the retard is generalizing
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>>750971710
the same shit happens in /pol/
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>>750972193
sure kid
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>>750972360
so you're not man enough then.
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I love Trump. Mostly because of how pissed off the liberals are because of him.
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>>750969192
effects take much moar time. what you see now is still obamas fruits or shit, if a pres has that much influence at all in these globalist times. at least it is hard to foresee and take into account all effects of the chaotic world.
for sure it won't help to break it down to that simple trump logic.
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>>750972075
but technically (statistically) the more guns you own the more likely you are to die by the use of one - so you are less safe.
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>>750972356
He's referring to posts in this thread.
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>>750972223
>>750972239
>>750972328
>>750972356
I know what it is. I just wanted to point you out. So weak.
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>>750969192

yup! I live in a nice white suburb and am middle-upper class. I've already seen fewer mexicans hanging out around home depot and doing lawn care, so now we have white people doing lawn care services in my neighborhood which is great.

i was getting sick of the mexicans shitting up the place
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>>750972379
yawn
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>>750972448
So is that a no from you then?
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>>750972489
>derp
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>>750972468
sorry newfag, you don't
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>>750972464
so?
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>>750972127
Wasn’t Obama in office during the recession of 08’? You know, the time they used tax payers $$ to bail out companies like Gm? Real classy!
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>>750972483
How did they shit up the place?
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>>750972489
time for bed grampaw, and don't forget your diapers and your anti Alzheimers medication again.
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>>750969192
Same amount of money (next to none by American standards), more stress, and heroin is on the rise in my community, so no.
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money? yes. But not because of that asshole. Trump didn't go to grad school for me.
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>>750972553

just being around. they would leave trash and every other morning when they were in neighborhood I can hear them speaking mexican out in the street at like 7am
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The U.S is just embarrassing at this point.
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>>750972567
so weak
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>>750972515
I do. I've been here since 2006. You don't have to respond to your own post to be labeled samefag. So weak.
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>>750972626
sure kid
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>>750969474
The Fed is the enemy of all Americans
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>>750972548
No.

He was sworn in January 20, 2009.
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>>750970264
you could try getting a real job?
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>>750972642
so you are samefagging then
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>>750972351
It's a Jew who self identifies as a Nazi
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>>750972660
still the worst ever
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>>750972523
You'll figure it out if you think hard enough. Try not to pop something though.
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>>750972196
Do you really think a Trump supporter or conservative in general will read that? GO CAPITALISM
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>>750972548
>Wasn’t Obama in office during the recession of 08’?

>checks wikipedia

>"The presidency of Barack Obama began at noon EST on January 20, 2009,


>2009


>and ended on January 20, 2017."

no
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>>750972712
yawn
such a weak attempt
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>>750972714
yawn
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>>750972760
this retarded
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>>750972736
Oh Lord not this crap again
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>>750972682
No. I'm not posting the same weak shit over and over again, except posting, "so weak", but that's me fucking with you. The rest will understand. You haven't posted a single fact or real argument. You just poke. It's annoying. Like a fly.
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>>750972736
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>>750972495
for me personally nothing changed. generally it is not a very good question since it implies trump already had major impact on most of the people other than trying alot and making near to nothing happen. quite similar to obama in the beginning btw.
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>>750969192
Yes. Stock market increase helped my financial position A LOT. I think decreased government employment will have long term benefits. Also prefer a sane immigration policy. Plus, watching the liberals howl at the sky has been a lot of fun!
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>>750972463

By that logic we should also not own a car since that makes us more likely to crash in one.

Or a toaster since we are now more likely to get electrocuted by one.
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>>750969192
Absolutely nothing has changed for me. Good or bad.

Pro tip: The government is not actually in charge and our votes don't mean shit.
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>>750972196
The market crash was due to demographics. The boomers were selling their first homes and there weren't enough x-ers to buy them, hence the bubble and that's why the housing market went to shit. It wouldn't have mattered who was President, it was going to happen. Sucks not having anyone to blame it on, doesn't it?
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>>750973026
this retarded
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>>750972714
I lay my argument and pay my dues. After that when financially and economically illiterate trump supporters refuse to listen, it's their problem. Everyone in America and around the world laughs at them for blindly following trumponomics and always putting blame on others regardless of facts.
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>>750972356
>>750972489
>>750972767
>>750972786
>yawn
Great job. You are a master debater and word smith.
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>>750972548
you are trolling aren't you?

Yes, Obama had a lot of mess to clear up after the Republicans did their usual thing of giving themselves tax cuts and fucking over the poor.
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>>750969333
Rrrright, nice one now go back to /pol/
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>>750969192
More patriotism and better economy which is what it means to be an American if you want my honest opinion.
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>>750973071
>expecting cleverness from trumpanzees
You only have yourself to blame.
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>>750973026
>Or a toaster since we are now more likely to get electrocuted by one.
Only if you're in the bath tub. Don't eat toast in the tub.
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>>750970264
Your rate increase is a direct result of the laws existing when Pres. Trump took office. He has attempted to change those laws on several occasions, and has implimented at least one executive order to help (allowing sale of insurance across state lines). Your irritation is misplaced.
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>>750973064
Yes I know, we've become even a bigger joke worldwide. Obama fixed a lot of how we were viewed that Bush Jr fucked up and it was all for nothing. They're just watching our country inch closer and closer to the cliff
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>>750969192
Dude's a sensitive broflake.
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>>750969192
Seeing lefties cry like little bitches, every day, for the last year has made me happier.

So yes, I can say my quality of life has improved as a direct result of Trump.
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>>750969333
This is bullshit bait by probably some edgy teenager who doesn't understand money cause $20/hour is shit pay.
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>>750969192
Yes, but I don't live in America anymore.
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>>750973144
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The only thing I have seen in any noticible form in his first year is that AR's are stupid cheap.
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>>750972523
So he's not generalizing, but referring to specific posts in this thread.
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>>750969192
Absolutely not. He destabilizes everything.
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>>750973205
for a woman it's not bad pay, but for a man that's kinda shitty.
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>>750973204
This kind of hopelessly trivial reason for making someone the most powerful person on earth, is precisely why your country is a laughing stock
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>>750973144
You really don't follow current events do you
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>>750972636
yes I know you are Grampaw, but that is just because you are so old, and because you spent all that time masturbating to traps.
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>>750973233
that's cause demand is down. Republican president is bad for gun sellers. Can't tell all the rednecks the president wants to take all yer guns
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>>750973048
It's not particularly this. I agree on the president thing. But it was more that the housing market kept growing because of demand. This demand was fueled by deregulated mortgage standards towards poor people. These are sub primes which are given even to people who they knew couldn't pay the loan back. Eventually people defaulted on the houses, foreclosures started to happen in mass and the banks put them together in CDO's to sell away destroying he value of the housing market.
Not as much the demographics as it was pure policy failure.
I agree it would have happened no matter what president. Except if someone running had for agenda to regulate the banking and housing market.
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>>750969540
He tried all of that or is in the process of doing so. It's not his fault that senate votes against the promises that literally got him elected. Also you may want to make a list of things he said he'd do and actually does.
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>>750973204
I love standing on a bridge that's following apart, the look on people's faces watching is great
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>>750973321
Your meme is so bad it's cringe worthy. Once the government starts paying for my guns then it won't be apples and oranges
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>>750973285
keep on crying libtard, your tears only fuel my hapiness.
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>>750973300
Hmmm...so there was a repeal of Obamacare yesterday after I went to sleep? I will have to look that up today...
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>>750969192
my life literally did not change at all in the last year. trump has been such an inept president that aside from constant embarrassment he has not been able to effect me at all
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>>750973233
That's because the NRA would have a hard time inducing it's monthly gun scares like under Obama saying "there taking arrrr guns"
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>>750972760
Oh please forgive me for not obsessing about murican politics.
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>>750973336
such as?
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>>750973353
The bridge is going to collapse, no matter who we elect.

At least this way, I get the satisfaction of seeing the suffering of the fools, that destroyed the bridge, in the first place.
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>>750973415
Not a repeal, it was about a month ago though, try reading
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>>750973480
Conservative lawmakers ? Or who do you mean exactly
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>>750973026
Yes, but you also have to weigh the benefits against the costs. You are more likley to die ina car crash if you are driving, but it is also fairly unlikely, and the benefits of driving are huge and obvious.

you are more likely to die by use of your own gun on yourself, or by someone else, if you own a gun but the benefits of owning a gun are.... small and not obvious at all.

the benefits of owning several guns are really not obvious, and the financial burden is clearly not worth it.

unless you have a small cock/ego and need something to make you feel better about being a manlet.
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>>750973336
>It's not his fault that senate votes against the promises that literally got him elected.
Perhaps someone needs to have a talk with Trump about setting realistic expectations
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>>750973026
There’s a name for the type of argument you’re trying to make, I can’t remember what it’s called though. It’s definitely 100% retarded tho
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>>750973380
You literally can’t even spell happiness.
Don’t stop, U.S.A, this is gold.
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>>750973583
Fascile
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>>750969192
i love how he is trying so hard to look tough in that image but he just looks like he is taking a shit
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>>750973092
No I’m not trolling, I just don’t care enough about murican politics to keep track of who’s in office when.
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>>750973048
utter bollocks

it was an obvious bubble fed by Clinton era regualtion changes that allowed the sub prime mortgages to proliferate, combined with utter reckless manufacture of huge derivative markets based on a faulty (obviously faulty) economic idea of shared risk. I am a democrat, but i blame Clinton, AND Bush for the crash, but Bush especially for the subsequent fuckup and the tax cuts and the unnecessary wars that made it all so much worse.
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>>750973649
Thank you kind anon, I’m up but my brain isn’t yet.
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>>750972186
I will stay mad. Being mad got trump elected and it's going to make sure he or someone like him will never be again.
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>>750969192
yes i do actually.
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>>750973682
Bush then Clinton then Bush but yes, the kicker was the insane expenditure of kicking around in the middle east and dropping bombs on enough Muslims to fuel ISIS was really really expensive. And we just keep on spending more and more on that military
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>>750972603
Why stop there?
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>>750973633
Should say “hillary supporters waiting for impeachment” or “hillary supporters waiting for evidence about collusion”
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So True lmao
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>>750972709
Give it a couple of years. Obama will be known as one of the worst mistakes of the US in history books one day, because of the atrocities he has done around the world.
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>>750969192
https://clips twitch tv/RespectfulImportantPotatoPeteZaroll
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>>750973682
>but Bush especially for the subsequent fuckup and the tax cuts and the unnecessary wars that made it all so much worse.
This, the financial crisis wouldn't have been as bad if the President hadn't spent his entire term pissing away all our money on wars in the middle east that were started under false pretenses.
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>>750969948
That's one quater of the time he have to do all this. If he can't do one of these in one year, good luck doing all of these in three years.

But hey, maybe he'll do it. I don't know, and frankly I don't care, as I'm not american.
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And which policies have changed since Obama?
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>>750972936
Watergate reporting: Sources, leaks and people genuinely losing their positions and being prosecuted.

Russia reporting: Russian prostitutes peed on his bed.

Basically the same.
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>>750973571
Perhaps someone needs to have a talk with a lot of US politicians about having principles and not voting against something out of spite.

Probably both, to be honest.
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>>750973071
your "argument" sounds more like crying
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>>750973990
You know INTERPOL was doing investigating on the issues with the Trump campaign and Russia before the FBI was ? There were two Russians held up on money laundering charges and that's what helped connect a lot of dots legally. I think Trump may literally be too stupid to realize what was going on though
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>>750973092
so bitter
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>>750973492
Dang, I try to be patient with liberals, but y'all make it so very hard. 1) that was the executive order I mentioned. 2) it isn't a change to the law, because that requires an act of Congress. Go back and read the constitution, if you don't understand how the legislature works. 3) it has almost no immediate effect, and will likely have limited effect over the long term. ACTUALLY read about stuff, instead of letting liberal blogs do your thinking for you.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/12/trump-obamacare-executive-congress-243696
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>>750974098
>I think Trump may literally be too stupid to realize what was going on though
He tends to skip over details, just ask the person who gives him his intelligence briefings.
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>>750974098
I am talking about the reporting.
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>>750973585
Yep a mispelling, you sure got me, you even get triggered over grammar, how's that working for ya? haha lmao
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>>750973128
this mad
lmao
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>>750974165
Like I said, too stupid and yes I know the first few days in office he wouldn't even listen to that little of briefings now it's just bullet points. WITH graphics though
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>>750973245
so?
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>>750973321
yawn
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>>750974031
You might want to talk to the President first. Given his tendency to shit all over our separate branches of government when it doesnt go his way I can understand the spite.
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>>750974211
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>>750973415
yawn
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>>750974252
Perhaps they'll start issuing pop up books to really snag his attention.
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>>750973480
sure kid
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>>750974145
Y'all....stopped reading right there.
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>>750969192
>cucklinton
>trumptard
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>>750974232
>mfw trump supporters are just that 14 year old kid on VC chanting 'u mad bro? u mad?' after you call them retarded for going 0-12 and shouting nigger for no reason
It all makes sense now.
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>>750973571
like your parents had for you?
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>>750973633
yawn
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>>750974229
Not that guy, but I’m in England, we’re all laughing at you. Trump and his supporters are comedy gold. Keep arguing in his favour no matter what, it’s great
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>>750973763
sure kid
stay mad
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>>750974166
Aaand your point ? The reporting has been more then reasonable, they've even left out some details. Do you guys not realize it's a big deal ? And no its not just the Trump campaign it's the fact in general any campaign during weird funky shit with a foreign government. Except rhe one who "won" the election is going to take the heavier heat for obvious reasons. Because they're in power plus they openly lied about any dealings with russian officials and fucked it up from there
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>>750974287
You could say exactly the same thing the other way around. In my opinion it truly doesn't matter who did it first, it's in the interest of the people that this seemingly infantile, yet actually self-interest driven shit stops.
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>>750973778
sure kid
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>>750974338
yawn
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>>750974324
Works for me.
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>>750974410
fuck trump by any means necessary is what your party is operating under.
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>>750974224
This
Poor USA. Guess it’ll be interesting to see where the power shifts to though given that America is now at best a laughing stock
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>>750974410
What do you mean what's my point? The initial post was about the reaction of people to the kind of reporting the media does on a topic. I pointed out that the reporting on those two topics is very much different and therefore it's a false equivilancy. You aren't talking about the reporting, you are talking about the topics that are reported on. Where is YOUR point?
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>>750971534
> How many republicans does it take to fix a problem?
Just one. Hillary lost.
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>>750974570
China more then likely
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>>750974545
which will cost them the next election
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>>750969192
No, everything is the same except everybody is pissed off all the time. It's become painfully clear the choices our government makes are entirely in their own self interest
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>>750974351
Like your parents didn't have for you? How's the wall coming?
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>>750974425
Not him, but yes, I think he is probably sure, and right to be. Or did you have some actual argument to suggest that his opinion may be flawed?

no?

is it because your meds are kicking in and you are too tired to think now Grampaw? pop off to bed like a good senile fart then.
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>>750969192
Realistically it depends more on who your mayor and governor is rather than the president.
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>>750973870
That’s not Trump, or evidence against him, try again.
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>>750974391
At least we don't have to worry about who is going to get plowed down every week from the latest mudslime terrorist act. We will never let those shit skins into our country meanwhile you accept them with open arms like the cucks you are.
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>>750971185
Obama did boost the fuck out of the economy. It's funny how everybody is forgiving Bush for one of the worst presidencies in history. Trump actually isn't too bad so far. I feel like he's gong to do something terrible eventually but so far so good.
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>>750974425
Try actually looking into military spending ....
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>>750974682
weakly repeats my post
I pity your parents
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>>750974773
>you played yourself
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>>750974695
yawn
this retarded
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>>750974570
Yeah, that's a damn shame. Like them or not, there's a slice of the world that wasn't such a bad place when the Americans had heads on their shoulders and were running a good bit of the show. Now that they're a banana republic shit show, the alternatives aren't exactly enticing.
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Aren’t americans bothered by the fact that they’re going to have to work like a decade longer to retire, just to pay for this travesty ‘wall’ crap?
And isn’t it positively devastated that €10 will buy a drone which immediately makes the wall irrelevant to drug traffickers?
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>>750974812
really?
when was this?
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>>750974874
sure kid
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>>750969192
Did any American ever after 1 year of any prez?
Go DIAF along with your tired shitstirring.
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>>750974812
This, he's not that good, but he's not nearly as bad as fear mongerers have let on.
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>>750974850
How's that ? We had like one terrorist act oOH big deal, compared to your weekly ones its nothing you tool.
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>>750974874
>And isn’t it positively devastated that €10 will buy a drone which immediately makes the wall irrelevant to drug traffickers?
Most narcotics are hidden in with legitimate cargo on trucks and sneaked through. I doubt they'll be buying very many drones.
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>>750969192
>>750969192
Yes, but i don't attribute these changes to Trump.
Yes, I voted for him and am glad I did.
I will admit I'm sick and tired of everyone's vagina hemorrhaging every fucking day because he's the president.
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>>750974586
except that your account of the reporting is utterly wrong, and the equivalency is not false, so ...

do remeber Watergate? how it dragged on for months and months and the reporting was slow to bring it all out?

the big difference is that enough has now been reported that Trump should have gone a year ago and all his crew with him. he still sits there like a toad with a big shit eating grin and says "fake" and no one has pushed him out for it. Nixon went with far less egregious actions, and far less evidence of his corruption.

this is a really telling and sad fact - that democracy has been so undermined that Trump can blatantly lie on a daily basis and is still in office. (or that he got elected with obvious lies that were exposed time and again) it used to be that liars got fired immediately.
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Poor Americucks, they’re gonna get schooled so hard. They might even have to learn where America is on a map. I don’t think they’re going to make it
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>>750974874
>buy a drone which immediately makes the wall irrelevant to
The idiot ran on a platform of building a wall so now he has to follow through on it despite it being full retard.
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>>750969192
No but he also didn't pass any bills and shit saying I owe them money if I don't get insured

I'm pretty much right where I was with obama in office except I drink more
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So far I'm doing okay. My buying power is going up, my stocks are up up, and I have no mortgage since last year. Doesn't matter who is in office, so long as Congress keeps circling jerking each other. I'll be fine.
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>>750974859
so you are saying you are tired and "this retarded" Grampaw? Sad you cannot even make complete sentences now. Go to bed. and take your anti snoring pillow.
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>>750974874
>drone which immediately makes the wall irrelevant to drug traffickers?

You think a multi billion dollar drug supply chain is walked over the border? 90% of it comes in on big rigs.
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/b/etter than /b/arack
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>>750974994
derr herrr americans are so dumb, yet we are the number one superpower in the world and all you eurocucks obsess over everything we do,
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>>750974949
nah the pic just looked like dj khaled lul
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>>750973336
>>750974031
Just a thought, the people in the senate who are voting against him are there because they were elected to do so.
Voting out of spite is literally all the Republicans have done for the last 8 years. This is politics as usual.
Why would you think the Democrats would do what Trump wants just because he got elected.

And, I hate to bring it up, but he did lose the popular vote. Yes I know that is not how President is elected, Muh Popular Vote and all that. But don't you think that he should think about that when making decisions? The majority of Americans did not vote for him, maybe he should reach across the aisle a bit. He just might get somthing things actually done.
Obama did it, and at least got a second term. Jimmy Carter did not, and he only got 4 years.

Trump supporters don't seem to realize that while politicians are slimy scumbags, they know how to get shit done in the government. Trump is not a politician, so its not surprising he has done very little.
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>>750973548
If you get rid of accidents (I'm not an idiot), someone stealing your gun (I'm not an idiot) and suicide (I'm not an idiot), then suddenly you are way more safe owning a gun. Why would I be less safe, just because others aren't able to be responsible?
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>>750974963
yawn
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>>750969192
I certainly didn't have any of those thing after 8 years of Obama's reign, so your point?
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>>750975015
this is what the retarded left believes
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>>750975082
yawn
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>>750975085
>>750974952
This. The wall was never going to habe an effect on the importation of drugs.
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>>750974963
>the big difference is that enough has now been reported
Okay, let's talk about content. There is literally nothing that would in any way prove or even be highly suggestive of Trump colluding with Russia and the media proves that they have nothing by the way they report. Their spin is a failure and they constantly double down on it, that's it.

If you want Trump gone, more power to you. If you want to use Russia as a reason, you have to be delusional.
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>>750975122
>listens to jihadist khaled

wow so multicultural of you. you are literally proving your cuck liberal retarded view.
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>>750975293
knowing about somebody =/= listening to somebody
ur a fkn idiot m8
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>>750975141
Oh come on Grampaw, you must remember Watergate? Remember Mr Nixon? The one you said was a crook? The one you said should have never started the War on Drugs and should have instituted the single payer medical care system that the experts all said he should put in place, but he went with dogmatic republican private health care profiteering adn condemned us to adecades of shitty health care at ever spiraling prices?

you remember that? No? Oh so sad. And what about that nice Joan Baez? Yes you remember her, don't you? Yes you used to jerk off over her album covers didn't you. Ok now off to bed and sleep well.
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>>750969192
No, I live in Chicago.
Best thing to do is nuke my city off the map, but nuke California first.
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>>750975468
Just LA the rest of California is ok if you can deal with liberals
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>>750969192
i'm on the left and even I'll say that this is a fucking retarded question. asking people if they feel they've benefited after just one year. fucking retarded.
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>>750975129
>Why would you think the Democrats would do what Trump wants just because he got elected.
I don't. They should vote in the interest of the people that elected them - and they aren't out of spite.

>Voting out of spite is literally all the Republicans have done for the last 8 years.
Nice whataboutism. I don't care if someone killed someone else somewhere else, you killing something is wrong.

>And, I hate to bring it up, but he did lose the popular vote.
I am against the electoral College, we're on the same page here.

>The majority of Americans did not vote for him
I'd say the majority of Americans voted against the strawman of the media, but that's just, well I don't really have a word for that, so let me use a German one: Bauchipedia (tummy - Wikipedia) and highly tinted by my lense.

>maybe he should reach across the aisle a bit
He should. So should everyone else. That's my entire point.

>Obama did it
Obama didn't.

>its not surprising he has done very little
It isn't, but not for the reasons you think. If Trump would be successful, it would call into question the legitimacy of pretty much everyone else, because they campaigned against him so rigurously that giving even an inch, no matter how justified, would be political suicide for any one of them.

That doesn't mean that Trump is any better, though his reasons are different, I guess: He's a self-rightous cunt.
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>>750975524
Another Chicagoan here, libs and cons need to die in a fucking fire and make way for Libertarians and independents.
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>>750975566
It is indeed retarded to believe that he’ll do as he claims, yes
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>>750975587
>libs and cons need to die in a fucking fire
That's pretty much the least libertarian thing I've read in my entire life.
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>>750969192
Do you honestly think the early-40-Rustbelt-blue collar worker lurks on this board?
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>>750975348
doesn't change the fact that your kind have made it easy for mudslimes to take advantage of you.
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>>750975118
>obsess
No, it’s called laugh hysterically
>#1 super power
But only start Wars with 3rd world shitholes and banana republics
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>>750975654
You don't know Libertarians then, faggot statists like cons and libs have been trying to run people's lives for too long. It's high time they let the people decide things, preferably by getting voted out and self-immolating.
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>>750975283
trump using his charity to pay a fine for him, adn then using it to a pay a bribe for him, and covering up both with false accounting, then saying it was a mistake - that shoudl have been enough to get him off the ticket in the first place. Trump juniour et al meeting the lawyer of a group who had been laundering money for putin and got out of a trial with a sudden plea deal, to talk about russian adoptions? When the ban on americans adopting russian children was imposed as a response to sanctions on Putin adn his mates because of the Ukraine... so Donny Jnr was meeting with Putins lawyer to discuss lifting sanctions on Putin, in return for leaked emails, illegally obtained by russian hackers.

and he annouced he was ging to have dirt on Hillary the day before. he was in it up to his fat neck.

he was quoting wikilealed emails in detail within half and hour of the leak - because he was pre primed with the info. he was calling on russian hackers to find her emails - and he was happy to benefit from the Facebook posts and the fake twitter accounts. and he won't show his tax returns, because they are filled with russian money - Putin is his banker.

he has tried to do everything for his master, but the congress has stopped him - but he got new orders this week so wait and see what he comes up with soon.
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>>750975888
sure kid
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>>750975940
No because nothing you said remotely applied to me. You're an ignoramus.
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>>750976050
but you defened yourself
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Seriously though, should we be planning some way of rescuing the poor fucks once America sinks? Everyone hates immigration now so they’ll have nowhere to go, and Jews will need somewhere to store America’s attractive females
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>>750976079
sure kid
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>>750975888
>he was happy to benefit from the Facebook posts and the fake twitter accounts
Muh social media stole the election. Come on, you can do better.

>he won't show his tax returns
He doesn't have to. Criticize the law, not him.

>he was quoting wikilealed emails in detail within half and hour of the leak - because he was pre primed with the info
Soo:
>He was quoting the truth
I don't care if the truth is used "maliciously", if it's the truth, I want more of it.

>he has tried to do everything for his master
What does Russia even have to gain from, say, repeal and replace? What are you on about?

You're full of conspiracy theories, calm down.
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>>750976050
>has liberal political viewpoint
>claims to not be a cuck

Are you denying that I'm right? Then that would make you the ignoramus not me you stupid fuck.
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>>750975118
>Number one superpower
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>>750975140
Your family members aren't. Your twice as likely to shoot a family member then to ever use a gun to defend yourself. Well 1.8x not quite twice
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>>750976509
Yeah because they’re the kid that got held back 2 grades and beats up all the little kids. I’d like to see how murica fares against a developed nation.
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>>750976586
Would that qualify as accidents or do I INTEND to shoot my family member? If I intend to do so, I don't really see the point of your argument. If I want to shoot my family, why would it be an argument against my means to do so that they would enable me to do so?
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