Why is this game so bad?
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Why is this game so bad?
Aww someone stuck in bronze
>>750905442
Did hanzo scatter arrow you again?
Git gud, nub
>>750905486
I don't even play. The game is so disgustingly simple and boring that it makes me retch after a few minutes of playing.
You pay 40 dollars and no campaign. But it works out because most people will buy blizzard games anyways.
its actually a really fun game you just gotta git guud
>>750905702
>I don't even play
>makes me retch after a few minutes of playing
Choose one
Baddies gonna bad. Go Junkrat, ideal for baddies
>>750905721
You pay 40 dollars for an unfinished game that's not even worth half of that. The game should be free to play imo.
>>750905702
>>750905702
So which is it? You don't even play, or you wretch after playing? Bit contradictory.
>>750905442
I bet you think anything that has mainstream appeal is inherently bad, don't you?
Fuck off, hipster.
>>750905442
Because it's the same thing over and over and over. Kinda like DoTA and LoL.
>>750905818
Different Anon here. I wouldn't necessarily say it's "fun" but it's definitely bearable. Especially if you have friends to play with.
ruining bait thread with pic dump
>>750905845
Maybe I stopped playing after playing it made me retch? And I'd rather play a game that actually takes skill to play than this excuse of a game.
>>750905989
Two words: Git gud
>>750905914
Nope. I like League. And I think csgo is a good game. Overwatch is just bad.
>>750905864
TF2 is free to play, got to a fast move speed server, and there you have overwatch
>>750906363
Figure out those new runes yet? I managed to have the BE to get urfwick, was a happy day
>>750906494
Nope. I just copy opgg for now.
I mean, he's right. The skill ceiling and overall quality of the game is so terrible compared to something like TF2 or CSGO. Blizzard is a bunch of baboons catering to other baboons.
>>750906004
Or maybe you're a lying would be contrarian.
>>750906547
lame, don't be a puppet, try something new. That's what preseason is for yo
>>750906004
garbage human, kys
>>750905442
They missed the mark, class based shooters were played out years ago
>>750906685
I will. Too lazy now.
>>750905442
It's bad because blizzard is bad.
>>750906780
Play something that takes skill faggot.
someone please drop trap porn so op can /thread
>>750906795
fair enough, try lethal tempo vayne if you havent yet. That with guinsoos is a lot of fun if you are good with her ult mechanics
The worst part about the game is the SJW aspect. You can't suggest anyone change their role or try different strategy without being called toxic. It's a cancerous environment. Basically reddit the video game
>>750906856
I honestly never played vayne. Don't even own her.
>>750905442
>filename
>LOGo
>>750906907
Which lane do you play? I've tried a good bit of shit out already
>>750905442
It's only around for inspiration on rule 34
>>750905442
Because people
>HURR I ANZO I ALONE FOLOW ME NOOB TEEM
>HURR I GENJ I ALONE FOLOW ME NOOB TEEM
>HURR I ANZO I ALONE FOLOW ME NOOB TEEM
>HURR I SOLDER I ALONE FOLOW ME NOOB TEEM
>etc ...
>Get behind my sh... !
>HUR GO FUSTER
I think you should just stick to pacman or tetris although tetris might be to hard for you...
>>750906838
filthy subhuman, kys
>>750905442
>>>/v/
If you wanna vent and trash popular gaems go there. If you think it's bad, atleast elaborate.
It's TF for SJWs. You can get banned for basically anything and there is no real skill involed. Problem solved. Have a nice day OP.
>>750907199
jungle was my main, then top/mid and supp. i suck at adc.
>>750907607
Lol so if i think the game is bad, i must suck at it, right? And the game i play require way more skill than overwatch.
>>750907752
filthy casual, suck a nigger cock
>>750908156
There's a hecarim build going around that caters to high move speed, that one seemed pretty legit, need to try it out still.
Played Olaf with predator and lifesteal build, worked ridiculously well in all the games I got to try it.
>>750908433
gaylord, kys
>>750905442
it is like not beeing abel to dance because you are a retarded fat fuck and then complaining that dancing is bad.
you have two options: go work out, learn dancing and have fun or do something els and let people enjoy it.
stupid anon.
>>750908069
Low skill ceiling, low skill floor, basic, uninteresting kits, lots of aim bot and aim assist in those kits, plain, stereotypical and uninteresting characters, lack of content for the price you pay and pandering to sjws and other faggots.
>>750908457
olaf is a beast if you get ahead.
>>750908611
cuck, die.
>>750905845
I'd say symmetra is the most newb friendly.. that character pretty much does everything for you
>>750908615
or maybe you like waltzer and not macarena so you say macarena is bad. you dont have to suck at something to think its shit.
>>750906004
>>750908634
Everything you just said is incorrect.. but it sure is fun pretending to know what you're talking about huh?
>>750905442
because...
1) people wont work together
2) wont fight to secure the objective
3) people keep trying to 1v6,1v5,1v4,1v3,1v2 instead of sticking together.
>>750908804
No but it helps
>>750905442
TF2 for scrubs designed with waifus (not gameplay) in mind, what is there more to say?
>>750908958
Lol. Please explain to me how this game takes skill to play. Itss literally a game made for casuals and the only reason its competitive is because blizzard throws money at it. Overwatch is as simple and as basic as call of duty.
>>750909153
Wow that makes it even more impressive that the gameplay was so perfect
>>750909039
Indeed...like in 99,9% of all games that type today. Most games are ok, but get turned to shit by the players who give zero fucks about anything
>>750909201
Maybe play against some better players
Because it's a class based fps that people try to play competitively and the only competitive fps that will ever matter is CS. Tf2 is better than overwatch because it knows that class based fps is fucking retarded.
>>750905442
I’m with you op this game sucks dick. The fanboys make it seem like it’s wonderful while other like me and op just see a cookie cutter game boring as fuck
>>750909255
>wait for OP ult the game
>perfect
>>750908726
leftist shill, kys
>>750909503
None of the ults are op you just don't know how to play the game so when someone uses it you always get caught
>>750909324
How does that make the game not bad lol
>>750909712
It doesn't.. the game being good makes it not bad
>>750909540
Oi fuck you you inbred piece of dog shit
>>750909772
But its not good.
>>750909930
But it is
>>750909941
Not if you want to play something that takes skill.
>>750910024
I don't play video games to impress people I play them to have fun.. because I know in reality no one gives a shit how good I am at video games
>>750905442
its pretty simplistic in how it's played gotta give you that.
>>750909664
The other team is doing the dying. I get to kill half their team just for waiting. How is that not op?
>>750910024
I bet you're the kind of faggot that makes his friends watch him play dark souls
>>750905442
Because its a team fortress clone. And tf sucks dick
>>750910264
Because none of the specials are op.. if you know how to detect them and avoid putting yourself in situations where you can't get away or find cover quickly they are really easy to avoid
>>750910141
>I have fun playing low skilled games
I bet you are a console peasant too.
>>750910518
Consoles are the way of the future friend.. soon enough computers will be completely phased out
>>750905442
Because your taste in games usually change as you get older. Notice how only little kids play this shit game.
>>750906004
If it didn't take skill, wouldn't everyone win all the time?
>>750910673
How will they make games without computers?
>>750910746
Because future
>>750910786
I dont think you read my post.
>>750910842
I don't think you read mine
The games beautiful, sorry if you're mad over buying a game you knew didn't have story. Learn to synergize with your team, play lots of classes, learn the meta for each character, wreck ass. And if ya one of those punks saying it's easy and simple, shut the fuck up or post season rating above 3500. Just sayin'.
>>750910868
I dont think you think
>>750910910
I think you're right
>>750910350
Never played that
>>750910518
I'm pretty sure you have to be a /v/-level idiotic elitist to actually think that's a bad thing
>>750910482
So your perfect game has hiding as its main counterplay? The problem is they are too fucking easy to pull off, at least in tf2 you have to do something to build a charge meter and you lose them on death.
it's fun for 2 hours before you realize it's a shittier TF2 designed for kids
>>750911064
/b/-level idiocy is thousands of time worse proven by the likes of you. Be honest, do you also game on your phone?
>>750911580
Not the same guy
You're not baiting anyone, but I'm sorry if you actually think like this
>>750911782
enjoy your angry birds faggot
>>750905442
retarded hitreg.
random shoots not hitting count as headshots, direct hits just go through enemies.
hence it doesnt depend on skill, just luck, so it draws shitloads of casuals
>>750911890
"Look at me, I'm unable to enjoy as many things as other people can and lack the capacity to understand how people like things, and I believe this is a good thing" - /v/ elitists if they were real and not entirely bait
You're really fucking lazy btw
>>750912239
Nobody cares if you like shitty, casual games. Just dont pretend they are anything other than shitty, casual games.
>>750912337
Shitty to you*
most people who play this game will have a bad time. The game requires team coordination to a fault. The individual contribution of a player can rarely if ever outweigh a teams shortcomings.
>>750912432
Still casual games that take no skill to play.
>This just in: Anon on 4chan discovers game played by millions and generating revenue most devs can only dream of is actually totally shit
What a scope.
>>750912337
who cares about anything really? Why is anyone even arguing of this shit. Yall dumb
>>750912337
"Nobody cares about your opinion" he says, while talking about his opinion. Good job not filtering any fallacy out your bait. Is this ammeter hour or something?
>>750912503
That's fine, just not to you
>>750912487
Probably why every character is made so easy that even a braindead monkey could play it. Individual skill ceiling is lower than skill floors in most games.
>>750912620
amateur*
Fucking right-click correct bullshit didn't work
>>750912652
Game's skill requirements are not subjective.
>>750912487
I agree 100% with this. It's the reason why it's nowhere near as fun as TF2.
>>750912800
That's right
I just meant the shitty part
>>750912620
Yes your shitty opinion is the only one that doesn't matter. Git gud and maybe your parents will let you play something else beside candy crush.
>>750912620
Youre a retard. It is not my opinion that overwatch is a casual game that takes no skill to play. Its a fact.
>>750912872
"not to you" was in reference to "fine"
fuck me, I'm replying too fast
>>750912927
That is a fact. The shitty part is not. It's your opinion that it's shit because of those qualities, so you're talking about your opinion.
>>750913016
Alright. Ill concede to that.
>>750905442
Toxic community, bad gameplay, forced to become an eSport even though the game is not designed to be one (just like hearthstone), Windows exclusive,...
Blizzard was good a decade ago, they're money grabbing Jews now.
>>750911553
>>750911553
Pretty much. If you didn't recognize Blizzard took a massive shit after WoW, then if you didn't play WoW but saw Diablo 3, why would expect Blizzard to be any different when releasing a new lenience that was clearly TF2 for ADD 4 year olds who can't aim with a mouse.
I almost bought it then I realized I had a blizzard account from Diablo 3 and I was like, oh yeah I remember Diablo 3. I'm certain this game is going to be the same bullshit attempt at psychological manipulation slot machine built as a [game genre] bullshit as the last game and I was too discouraged to go through the account recovery process.
I mean, once you play these types of games long enough, their little tricks no longer work, you play it for the gameplay, BUT they remove and hinder the gameplay by only letting you play if you go through the slot machine bullshit. there's nothing random about it, it's just how they model a players brain. oh this player spent $x we can administer 3 dopamine events in the next week. but then we need 2 stressful events in back to back succession. or whatever the fuck their gamer profiling bullshit has determined to drive the most sales.
>>750905442
Because PC gaming in 2k17
>>750912888
Goddamn you're lazy
>>750913203
haha loser I won. I am victorious in my first internet argument.
>>750912337
Overwatch is also a shitty casual game, what's your point?
>>750913576
That's not what I was going for, I just wanted to see how far the bait could be taken
>>750911106
You kill the enemy to make it charge faster and some characters charge faster than others.. is your main argument really that the game is different than team fortress? Cause I gotta be honest man team fortress got really old really fast
>>750913660
That i dont care if you like it, just dont say its anything other than a shitty casual game.
>>750913946
No my argument is that overwatch ults are free and force you to hide while with tf2 you got to do some work to get them beside waiting and you can still be countered by stuff like airblast or backstabs.
>>750905442
Most people attribute it to a low skill ceiling, but I actually think that it doesn't do enough to accommodate bad players.
The small team sizes and importance of abilities/ults result in poor decisions, missing shots, overextending, etc having a huge impact on the match. Because of this, bad players always die, lose, and don't have fun and good players always lose and don't have fun because they get paired with bad people.
A lot of people think that TF2 is more fun and I absolutely see why. It has larger teams and no ults/high-cooldown abilities to waste, so things like positioning, timing, and skill from one or a few players are much less impactful. This makes it easier for teams with mostly competent players to do well, which also allows bad players to be carried and possibly not die all the time.
>>750914375
If the game runs on long enough you might be able toi get one ult depending on which character you use and if you have fun doing that go for it.. just hope you're not on my team because you would be pretty useless
>>750914857
One ult while doing nothing*
>>750914371
I'm bad at games and never understood why people think this. Is it the asymmetrical heros? The ults? The map designs? Because even with all of those, they bring the requirement to use/play around them correctly to a degree that I think would make them non-casual. Not saying I'm objectively right, but I'm kind of in the dark here.
>>750914920
So the main issue is passive ult charge, or even the rate at which damage gives ult charge. I'm pretty sure it would still be shit even if they took passive charge away and decreased the amount that dealing damage gives. Regardless of the aforementioned charge nerf, dealing lots of damage would result in quicker ults. Since lots of damage is being done, the enemies are probably dying a lot and not getting a lot done. All it would end up doing is punish a team that's already losing.
>>750915494
I don't there is any issue with the ult charge.. the more you do in the game the more you get your ult.. it adds a fun element to the game
>>750915807
I personally think the way it charges is fine. My problem lies more in the ults themselves, but that's probably just bias from me being really bad. Something a bit more objective could be how useful they are. Although some being better than others would be fine if it depended on how good the rest of the hero is, it's not like that. They vary in usefulness almost completely arbitrarily.
>>750914857
Even as the shitiest player you are bound to get ~3 ults, they are not hard to get for any hero. But the main issue is that they basically have nothing to counter them.
>>750915807
It's like with random crits (increased chance on more damage/healing done), it feels cheap to kill and get killed by them.
>>750916479
I smell bronze player.
>>750913493
quite agreed with one "but"
the Toxic community thing, fairly sure most people who complain about it start every match by insulting everyone around them.
i never really had huge problems with that, for the most part it's hilarious watching people try to insult me. then they lose anyway.
Grand Master sombra main here.
Current SR: 4211.
>>750916479
Name 1 ult and i Will give You a counter ult Or abilitie!
>>750916479
You don't know how to counter ults but I'm a shit player? That's how that works?
>>750916479
There's nothing cheap about the ults.. they are so easy to counter once you know how to predict them.. simple strat: stay together but don't bunch up
>>750916774
Zenattas Ultimate?
>>750917447
Waiting 5 seconds
Why are overwatchers so salty about OP? The fuck, they should know it is a casual arcade game for quick action and fun without much learning. I thought people bought it for that, just like COD. But most people saying it is tactical or you can't win without reflexes, maybe try arma and have fun with your tactical shooter.
>>750917479
Running away to cover for 5 seconds getting killed/shot at while the enemy team takes the point, runs the clock, and fucks your women*
>>750917447
Junkrats tire.
Dv.a self destruct.
Roadhog, if near cliff (Ultimate + hook)
Ana bio-nade.
Or Any other with instant dmg.
>>750917447
knock him away so his team is out of the aoe
>>750917608
I don't use tactics and have poor reflexes/aim and I do poorly and lose all the time. I don't get what everyone means with this shtick.
Winstons ult.
>>750916774
>>750917707
I didnt say run away.. you just won't be able to kill anyone right next to zenyetta for about 5 seconds
>>750917955
Lol oh know he pushed me
>>750917608
This whole thread exists because op is salty about a game he played twice and sucked at
>>750917955
Junkrat trap.
Orisa halt.
Phara Ultimate.
Roadhog Ultimate.
Reaper in general
Ana slee dart.
I could go on....
>>750917955
>>750917958
Zen's probably gonna be ulting for other people, meaning there's at least 1 (usually 2 or 3, sometimes 4 or 5) pseudo-invincible boi who can shoot and kill you without having to think about it, so doing anything but getting to cover while they eat match time seems dumb
>>750917955
His ult is useless for anything other than a final push or if you're right next to the edge off the map
>>750918265
Dude if you are really that easily thwarted by zens ult you got serious problems to work on
>>750905442
>>750905486
its not even like a true fps. its both a watered down moba and fps. the map movement is a joke and it requires nothing but retarded team work
>>750918230
Junkrat trap countering it is probably rare, since it's pretty small and ulted Winstons are in the air a lot of the time.
Orisa's halt only really works for Orisa, who probably won't be able to take Winston out by herself.
Phara's ult would require the kind of situation where she can use it without being shot out of the sky by 85% of the cast. The kinds of spots where a Winston would jump in and ult to disrupt things might not meet this requirement.
Roadhog's ult is a good one, but Winston might be able to jump out of the ult, which is especially bad if the Roadhog doesn't have good tracking aim or reflexes
I'm not sure how much Reaper would be able to do, since Winston would be jumping all around.
Ana's sleep dart is perfect.
>>750918440
Like?
>>750905442
the people.
This game could be amazing if it wasn't for all the fucking faggots and egos strutting around like Musketeers in a Dumas novel
Personally, I enjoy the porn immensely, and I've barely played the game.
>>750918139
That may be the case, but look at the thread. So many people telling Overwatch requires tactics, training, teamwork and long planing. Those are 40 minute matches at max, nothing more than reflexes is required. And that was the aim of the game, quick fun with fragging some people.
>>750906363
>I like League
> I think csgo is a good game
opinion officially discarded
>>750919171
Am I crazy or does Overwatch basically have all the same TF2 autists, but now they're trying hard?
>>750918933
Being really bad at video games
>>750919219
I haven't noticed anyone saying training or long planning but I haven't been reading the whole thread.. every game requires tactics and teamwork but overwatch is mainly a team oriented game.. the game is fun that's the only point I tried to make
>>750919311
I don't get how skill's really involved though. The only thing it seems you can really do is counterpick, which I wouldn't really call a skill.
>>750919309
sire some but its mostly people who never played an fps in their life
>>750919581
It's not a skill.. it's basic shit you should be able to do instinctively.. all the more reason you're shit for not beiing able to
>>750919219
I don't understand how it doesn't require those things
>>750919309
Blizzard's corporate game is to take popular games and polish the fucking shit out of them, and make the best goddamn version out there.
Team Fortress 2 was the retarded child of TFC, which was incredible, and I think Overwatch pulled in old players from BOTH, including the CS GO players, since Blizzard's reputation has been well established.
>>750906577
>implying csgo is good
nice try
>>750919553
The dota and lol comparisons are the tactics part. Those games are rts's, overwatch is an fps, usually people wouldn't compare them, just like noone would compare battlefield and overwatch.
I would rather say, that overwatch requires passive teamplay. You can get any pickup on the field, but it helps you getting stuff from teammates and them helping you. But the maps are linear enough so you stumble on friendlies sooner than later. I would compare overwatch rather to natural selection without the base building.
>>750919976
You're an idiot.
Overwatch sucks because it caters for people who are absolutely trash at first person shooters with abilities and ultimates.
It's babby's first FPS
>>750920201
why don't you eat shit you fucking sperg
>>750919880
Play something with real tactic and teamplay elements, those games are super slow, before you start shooting it takes 30 minutes of briefing, planing and walking. Not that great if you want quick action.
>>750906800
Most Famous and most played MMO most famous and most played Dungeon crawler Most famous and most played Real-time strategy game One of the most most played Card games as of now(wont say most famous cause i think that belongs to Magic the gathering) And OverWatch a FPS with over 100 Game of the year awards. Yes they are bad.
>>750920622
I'm gonna tell you something you might not like... nobody cares how good you are at video games
>>750907025
You're still here doing this? Pathetic fag
>>750920885
Wat? This has nothing to do with my post?
>>750920711
Yet their entire roster of games have counter parts which are much better
WoW is dead as fuck and a corpse, Diablo 3 was literal shit that is being destroyed by path of Exile, Hearthstone is one of the worst card games ever created, SC2 is so dead they are going f2p
and as an FPS overwatch is Rubbish, HOTS is absolute liquid shit as well
>>750919777
The primary Zen ult counters, Junkrat and DVA's ults, might not do the job based on the enemy team's reaction, aren't always available, and depend on what map/part of the map everyone's on. Pulling Zen away with Roadhog's hook is difficult, since he's surrounded by a cloud of teammates who shield him. Trying most push abilities like Roadhog and Winston's ults are usually a death sentence since all of their attention is focused to you. Ana's Bio-Nade is stuck on a sharpshooter class, which is exclusive to players based on chromosome count. Ana's hacking and ult are stuck on a generally shitty class. These are made even worse when a team doesn't do enough to make way for attempts to counter stuff.
>>750919976
>Made the worst CCG
Your theory fails here
>>750909201
Never heard the saying a Day to learn a life time to master? not saying it will take a life time but one thing that makes games good is being able to play it for the first couple hours and enjoy the character and do well with them but if you wanna reach top dog level then you gotta put some hours in you say low skill celling but unless youre a grand master in the game you cant say that cause you obviously havnt reached the top of the ceiling. its like a Silver player saying League is Easy it just sounds fucking stupid.
>>750920330
I'm absolute trash at first person shooters and I hate Overwatch. The abilities and ultimates sometimes make it more difficult for me. What do you think about that?
>>750908958
Opinions can't be incorrect buddy, try again another time maybe you'll get it :)
>>750905442
>Blizzard died when activation bought it and raped until every hole was destroyed. then they made new orifices in its rotting corpse to rape till destroyed. then they equipped themselves with a larger phallus so they could go back and rape all the original destroyed holes, plus all the newer destroyed orifices they'd created.
>>750921156
Hearthstone is only just beginning to lose favor with people because of the prices- but that shit was wildly successful until literally a week ago. People are tired of the prices, and that's about it.
People hate WoW but they still play it regularly.
Blizzard USED to be good. They've gotten complacent in using their own name to lure idiot fans and gamers into paying for their shit.
>>750905442
Because it's a Blizzard game that was made past 2009.
After 2009, everything Blizzard has pumped out has been garbage.
>>750920622
Overwatch certainly requires less compared to games like the ones you brought up, but the requirement is still there.
>>750921562
It's not a good card game. It's basically a simplified RNG based MTG. It's not any more interesting than playing rock paper scissors.
>>750921381
If you can't press Q at the enemy team at the correct time you should probably just end it
>>750921562
it's also a meme game that focuses more on RNG and high rolling then actually playing well. You can't even interact with your enemy on their turn which is an essential part of card games
>>750905442
I hate it because every one else loves it -Op
>>750906004
sounds like someone's
bad at videogames
>>750921623
That was my point, people like it for the quick action. But some spergs here want to seem it like the pure manifestation of tactical team play shooter. I liked it a lot, but sugarcoating it is garbage.
>>750921776
just because you don't like it doesn't mean that it didn't make a fuck ton of money.
I don't like it either, but ignoring something doesn't make it false.
>>750905442
because you have bad taste
>>750921809
But I do press it at the correct time and nothing happens because it gets countered by some other Q-press or shift-press or whatever.
>>750920622
Arma? 30 minutes breifing? sorry man but Alot of us here actually have jobs and cant spend 30 minutes of our free time talking about a mission that is fucking virtual do you honestly not see that?
>>750921935
>making money = good game
this is so fucking false, it's a good business or product in that case but it doesn't make it a good fucking game
good game = good GAMEPLAY
>>750921809
honestly, taking away the ability to talk/spam hate/venom at strangers was one of Blizzard's best ideas in a long time.
And this bullshit with the rigged RNG is just what they've taken from WoW's formula. Addicts don't like it, but they can't stop playing that shit. That's why casinos work.
>>750922046
Then you didn't press at the right time anon... It's pretty simple tbh
just play mercy man it's fooking EZ
>>750922184
It's only a good idea if you're a weak little faggot who can't take the heat of a few curse words
why don't you drink some bleach u little pussy cunt
>>750905442
Because it was designed for retards who can't figure how to play CS:GO competitively.
>hurr durr pretty neon colors
>hurr durr this is my favorite class
>hurr durr what is tf2
>hurr durr special powers to stop myself from getting killed
>>750922125
The fault lies with gamers. Companies are so used to gamers buying literally whatever shit they attach a popular name to. If we could say "no, this is bad, we aren't buying it until you fix this shit" we wouldn't have so many fucking terrible games coming out. Most games aren't even complete anymore, and they sell them as "DLC."
>>750922125
so overwatch gameplay isnt silky smooth and polished?
>>750921935
>It made tons of money so it's good
I guess the Emoji Movie is a fucking 2017 masterpiece.
Hearthstone is an okay casual game, but them trying to force a fully RNG based game as a competitive one is retarded. Blizzard is just incapable of making a good game anymore. Well, they can make decent games but they're trying to turn their games into something that they shouldn't be.
It's pretty good at its intended purpose, which is to be the most casual of the major FPSes.
>>750922283
Yeah that's right- just because I don't like spending my free time wading through feces, I'm a pussy.
That makes sense. I guess it would be different if I was more like you, and my time was so worthless I could moisten a computer chair for days on end playing fucking videogames that piss me off.
>>750922125
In the grand scheme of things, next to the average opinion of its playerbase, the best quantifier of a game's quality is how much money it made, since it's a separate good quality as well as sometimes being a clue to how it was designed.
>>750922191
If that's the case, then the only real way to know what time's the right time is to wait for and focus on one or a few specific things in a big flashy clusterfuck. Is that what being good is about? Also, Mercy is naturally one of the few heroes I found easy, but I'd rather die than be a healslut.
>>750922550
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38o0QhqeWg8
For the most part yes, all of Blizzards games are "polished" but it takes a lot more then a clean polish on something to make it good.
>>750922283
You say that like it's not repetitive or annoying though. Especially since it appears in the same spot where something remotely important or meaningful would appear.
>>750922739
>the best quantifier of a game's quality is how much money it made
>>750920911
Dubs logged
>>750922751
oh so asoon as a game gets a bug its shit? well better let LoL and Dota2 know to shut down cause they are obviously garbage from your theory.
>>750905442
Because it has low skill ceiling, slow gameplay and is made by Activision, same as every other game of theirs. Also its considered competitive game like wtf Fun run is more competitive than this
>>750922560
Nice job ignoring the second half of my post- your angry reply just wouldn't have as much bite if you acknowledged it.
Nowhere did I say that making money=good quality.
I'm saying YOUR opinion is worthless in the face of the throngs of people who made it successful.
>>750920940
It has everything to do with you though
>>750922935
I said next to the playerbase's average opinion of the game, which is a direct quantifier for quality. The amount of money made is good for the people who made the game and could (not always, but sometimes) serve as an indicator of people's opinions, making it the second most direct quantifier.
>>750923060
>the game is super polished!!
>show you it isn't
>LOL DOESN'T mMATTer it'S one BUG LOL
>>750921135
Just wait 5 seconds and you can start shooting the enemy again.. stop perplexing everything
>>750905702
So don't play it. Problem solved. Play something you like.
>>750922061
Not only arma forces you to do a 30 minute briefing. But that was my point, people like overwatch for some quick kills and not for tactical gameplay.
>>750923243
>Just wait for 5 seconds while any previous fighting is ignored (but only for them), we can't kill them, and they whittle away even more at their objective time
Also, I don't get how recognizing things that happen and coming to conclusions based on it is "perplexing" it. It's just how these things work.
>>750906903
Unless you are Mercy. Then you can tell all the newfags to switch or you throw the game.
>>750923614
I fucking hate Mercy so much I swear
It's like they took the Medic from TF2 and somehow made it require even less brains to play. It's really enabled the whole smug internety healslut shit lately.
It's my favorite game, but i also play very competitive and with a ground. love the synchronized strategy that goes into. requires communication and teamwork.
>>750923854
Oh well that's a shame you hate playing healer. i usually get 15 kills with her and make people rage quit.
>>750913515
>>750924061
You should be ashamed of yourself if that's your primary playstyle
>>750924061
I never played Overwatch, but isn't that like the sniper in battlefield? Instead of plying objectives and supporting the team they go for frags and are mostly useless the whole round?
>>750924414
It's not really that much of a problem since going for frags regardless of objectives is how most people play for some reason
>>750923181
by your logic tho im saying there is no game out there to your standards since well there hasnt been a single game that hasnt had a bug at some stage so its literal nit picking and you know it.
>>750924242
I average 11,854 healing per round with a kdr of 5 to 1 as mercy, also play as pharrah and have an 8 to 1 kdr and orisa 6 to 1
Toxic community & retarded devs who purposefully make every nerf & buff too large.
>>750924552
So it is mostly persuading people to pick the right classes and support people? That would annoy me and force me to play with friends
>>750924612
That's fine I guess
Anything that isn't the "smug internety piece of shit who plays easy classes, thinks they're hot shit no matter what, and likes to le epic trole people" stereotype
>>750924242
definitely not ashamed at all, been diamond the past 3 seasons. Having a Mercy or a Lucio is extremely important, sounds like you have no idea how to play. or just have a "main"
>>750924858
Proper team comp and support is important, but it's not that much of a problem since the meta is fucking drilled into anyone who doesn't already know. This goes for most things, but it is a lot better with friends.
>>750923577
More to my point.. if zenytetta gives you this much trouble you should just give up video games in general
>>750924061
Oh great an attack mercy.. that's about as useful as a soldier 76 playing healer
>>750924862
Lucio is fine, since he's actually more than "I am le internet gf, let me shove my heal beam up your ass and be cute and stupid". I like most supports and was at my best with Lucio for a while when I first played.
>>750924858
no, it's mostly balancing the team and being able to play with any class so you can work towards a common goal.
>>750925317
I also average 11,854 7 res per round and have been diamond the past three seasons. I know when to shoot and i know when and who to heal first.
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>>750925125
Good non-answer you fucking retard. Sure, let me manifest my 1337 skillz directly in the game and change how everything works so I can turn off Zenyatta's ult and freeze the enemy team in place while I jack off to cartoons.
>>750925454
I mean I don't believe you but calling someone out for lying on 4chan is about as pathetic as lying on 4chan
>>750925337
To each his own, Im a great Mercy and i know how to play every character. I choose mercy because its hard to have a game without a good healer.
>>750905442
Honestly, I have no idea.
I like most of the characters, the map variety is good, the abilities are cool, some of the Arcade modes are fun as fuck, but I can never bring myself to play it more than a few times over the course of about a week before I go back to TF2 for another two months.
>>750908634
>Low skill ceiling
Not really. Upper-level play is neat to watch.
>low skill floor
Also not really. There are definitely some characters that are more n00b-friendly than others (Reaper yes, Winston no), but even they require some amount of practice.
>basic, uninteresting kits
Some kits are boring (Reinhardt), some are pretty solid all-around (Soldier: 76), some are completely geared towards one playstyle (Genji), but that's why there's 20-something characters.
>lots of aim bot and aim assist
Stop playing on console, fag.
>plain, stereotypical and uninteresting characters
Not really true either. Even the tokens are fleshed-out to some degree. They really took a page from Valve's book with regards to character-building.
>lack of content for the price you pay
I might actually have to give this one to you. That alone would probably explain why I barely play the game anymore.
>pandering to SJWs and other faggots
"o teh noes dey made traser a lezzyun! deyre turnin the friggin frogs ghey xDDDDDDDDdDD"
>>750925093
>>750925360
But it feels really wrong seeing a healer going full damage dealer. Healer usually is the worst job and having zero kills is common in any game, but that guys post just feels wrong.
I can't input most of your language, never played the game, but thought about buying. Is that behaviour common for the only main healer?
>>750925549
don't care if you dont believe me, you sound like you are trying to downplay a character that some people are better than you with
>>750925527
I don't even know what that means
>>750925634
And it sounds to me like you are more interested in getting potg than actually healing your team
>>750925317
what are your mains faggot? and dont comment if you dont have at least 3
>>750925768
Mercy hanzo and mccree
>>750925724
lol I get play of the game like 1 out of 20 matches.
>>750905442
Honestly, I think my biggest issue with the game is the MOBA feel it has.
MOBAs are just boring shite on the whole, and if OW was more of an objective-based shooter than a first-person MOBA it wouldn't be so dull to me.
>>750925894
Doesn't disprove my point
>>750925612
She's not exactly a full-damage dealer. It's supposed to be a last-resort sidearm when there's nobody around to heal. Mercy mains will typically do their job right. While there is a small demographic of the "this is what 20 years of Mercy experience" jerkoffs who think they're gods at everything and just overextend for frag montage clips, I've never run into one.
The other healers are half healing, half damage, but it's set up fairly.
>>750925647
It means your only argument for what core game mechanics are hard-coded to do is "git gud" because that'll somehow nullify every single mechanic the game has.
>>750925964
kek ok guy
>>750905442
by tf2 standards, this game is awful, and thats a lot saying we had meet your match update
>>750926151
My argument is that zenyettas ult is not nearly as op as you seem to think it is
>>750925996
With how hard Blizz tries to keep Mercy designated as "THE Healer™," you'd think they would have eliminated Battle Mercy entirely by removing crits from her blaster a few "balance patches" ago.
>>750925894
"Look at me, I am le healer, but I don't heal I use MY GUN because I am really really good, but I'm super duper humble too haha I'm literal trash oh god I love the internet omfg roflmao these fucking scrubs I'm better than everyone" - You, probably
>>750914430
Pretty much this. The metas revolve around ults and certain abilities. What? your zenyatta panic ulted to save himself and now you have no defensive ults left? Get ready to be steam rolled by the other team's Genji/Zarya/Anna ult combo.
>>750926411
kek, continue...
>>750905442
Why ?
Because it's made by Blizzard
>>750926323
She is the healer. It's her primary function.. you can get kills with her but in doing that you're pretty much useless to the team
>>750926263
Maybe it's not, but I think it's the kind of thing that has to be dealt with by more than just retardedly good aim or individual game sense. It is an ult, after all. The implication of not being able to handle this big "so good it's an integral part of the game" ability by myself meaning I'm bad isn't true. The real reason why I'm bad is because I can't aim worth shit and I sometimes fuck up my support ults.
because n o r m i e s play it
>>750926621
>I know I'm a fucking asshole but that's fine because I'm a smug asshole too
You need to stop
>>750926761
Maybe you just over think everything
game is complete shit, i own it. 1k hour, and ranking is total ass shit fuck you, how the fuck do i go from diamond 3200 to fucking 2500 fuck this game and its leavers, throwers and fucking children who cant handle simple objectives. Fuck!
>>750905442
Carebear Blizzard and sjws that ban you for being "uncooperative" for playing offmeta heroes
>>750926858
I would like to think that, but I do equally shit at best if I turn my brain off
>>750926839
>You need to stop
>Doesnt Stop trying to be an asshole
Continue...
>>750926962
Maybe you're just better with them based strategy games
>>750917955
His ult is mainly used to extend his life and either soak up some damage for his team, stall so his team can get to the objective, or knock a few people off the objective. Winston has a giant crit hit box, and if you had high damage ults to the equation, the last two options can be punished hard.
>>750927095
Turn based*
>>750905442
It's so bad it's the single most sold title in the story of PC gaming. Aw jeez.
>>750926839
How many times do you see this screen?
>>750926758
Well duh, but if they got rid of her blaster's crits, you'd see a lot fewer of these "frag montage" (>>750925996) Mercy players running around.
I know they're scarce in the first place, but it would still help if she couldn't top out her DPS at 200 with pinpoint accuracy.
>>750905442
The game is garbage not even an fps game. most of the heroes require no aim and it is super casual and sjw cucked
>>750926993
You say that like a hypocrite can't be correct
Somebody could stab someone and say that stabbing people is bad. They'd be totally right even though they're full of shit.
But you really do come off as that type of person, which is one of the most egregious plagues on any online community, especially since that's the whole idea. It's like how vaporwave became an ironic thing, so people kept making shitty vaporwave stuff under the pretense of irony until it just became actually bad. It's an arrogant, self-feeding thing and it ruins things for people, so I felt obligated to call you out on it.
>>750927270
Agreed, Her Blaster is OD. But still effective when you know when and how to "pull it out"
>>750918862
>Orisa's halt only really works for Orisa, who probably won't be able to take Winston out by herself.
Her ult increases her teams damage so they can get rid of the Winston faster.
>Phara's ult would require the kind of situation where she can use it without being shot out of the sky by 85% of the cast. The kinds of spots where a Winston would jump in and ult to disrupt things might not meet this requirement.
True. There's also the option of Winston jumping into her face and making her commit suicide.
>Roadhog's ult is a good one, but Winston might be able to jump out of the ult, which is especially bad if the Roadhog doesn't have good tracking aim or reflexes
All Roadhog needs to do is keep Winston away. Winston can't tank on the point and harass your team if he's no where near you.
>>750927250
Not sure what that has to do with it, but I don't usually leave. I've had cases where a match gets turned around, so I don't really give up unless I get a bunch of annoying matches in a row and I'm already fed up.
>>750927270
Idk what a drag montage is.. is that like a YouTube thing? Cause I don't watch skill based gaming channels
>>750927597
Frag*
>>750927486
I thought you meant Orisa's shift. My bad. You're super right about her ult. Maybe I've also underestimated the length of time Roadhog would keep the monkey down.
>>750927348
A person claiming to have higher standards but doesnt cannot be correct.
>>750919219
You still need to learn how to move as a team, positioning(even more so with certain characters), sound queues, counters, ect..
>>750927597
>>750927612
It's this thing that competitive players circlejerk with where they record their matches, take the parts where they do really well, and make compilation videos that are typically heavily edited and accompanied by loud electronic music. Anyone who isn't a competetive player or entry-level observer knows they're just stupid.
>>750927541
>I dont usually give up unless...
Now i know you are a troll, i never give up. you sound like a cancer to play with or be around
>>750927938
That's pretty gay.. idk why people feel the need to treat overwatch like call of duty
>>750927773
The fact that they have a higher standard would be false, but the subject matter of their higher standard would still be true.
>>750925527
>let me manifest my 1337 skillz directly in the game and change how everything works so I can turn off Zenyatta's
Ana's e turns off his ult though. To beat Zen's ult, you have to bait it out, kill Zen, use a biotic grenade, or use high damage ults. There's many characters that need to be dealt with in a similar way; learning how to deal with them is a part of the learning curve.
>>750928143
You need some reading comprehension.
>A Person CLAIMING to have higher standards but doesn't cannot be correct.
>>750928036
Whenever I end up quitting, it's almost always quitting Overwatch, not just the match. Plus I've tried never giving up, but it fills me with a helpless despair that would drive me crazy if I forced myself to proceed.
Overwatch is okay but it's nothing compared to quake 3 fortress back in the day. (TF2 sucks too. Pacing is way too fucking slow )
>>750928349
I don't always quit the game.. but when I do, it's because you killed me too many times
>>750928349
>whenever i end up quitting..
Btw, im glad this isnt another pics you shouldn't share thread. My dick can only take so much beating
The sweats take the game to seriously like seriously man its a game. The fact that they flip their shit if someone they don't even know dies on the same team as them really disappoints to man. They can't dictate what you do with your money and need to die or something. As for things like streaming so what? I mean good for them they can bring some entertainment to people and if they get money fine that's great for them but they shouldn't;t rely on that for a form of income I mean to say "yeah I make videos of myself playing video games" as a job is embarrassing. There are people who have dropped out of college to do this. The only times it was remotely "ok" would be people like Pewdiepie, or Vanoss and their friends who make millions and live good lives because reasons. In the end it's not just over watch its all games that have some sort of competition to them because people get to invested in them and forget it's a GAME and is for FUN. The hentai tho 8/8 would fap again but not in no nut november
>>750928320
I'm dumb so let's go back to the example.
A dude stabs another dude, and claims that stabbing people is wrong. This implies that he operates under the standard of "stabbing people is wrong". However, he evidently doesn't operate under such a standard, so the idea of him subscribing to the standard is false. Nonetheless, the "stabbing people is wrong" standard is correct, even though he's lying about living up to it.
There's a level of separation between someone's ideas and actions. I would know. I'm a fat shit, but I'm all for fat shaming. Fats are typically dumb and oblivious to their unfavorable mannerisms. However, I've made no effort to get /fit/ or be presentable because I'm lazy.
>>750928505
I don't get it
