let's settle this once and for all
circumcised vs uncircumcised, pros and cons, let's keep it civilized
>>750744442
If you want to get circumcised then more power to you but forcing it on unsuspecting infants is a human rights violation plain and simple.
There are some medical reasons for it in certain situations, but 100% of the time it's not needed in infants.
Just a show of force that the jews have taken over. After all, you ever question why ALL the Allies gave them land after WW2? "We felt bad" said no victor ever. If that doesn't show you who's in charge than nothing will. They told your grandfathers to fight and they all jumped. Even now it's illegal in a lot of places to even write what I just did.
i'm torn. I feel as though its a violation of the non aggression principle and makes us no better than those dirty goat fuckers with the cunt cuttings.
but on the other hand i think not being circumcised might cost you a couple blowjobs.
as an adult ive endured great pain to get my dick sucked , so the pain of circumcision is nothing compared to the effort outplayed just to have the blowjob denied just because the girl is weirder out.
I honestly think it has a lot of benefits if it's done right and don't understand what's the big deal about it lol.
>>750745088
>There are some medical reasons
...what? u look at baby dick's
>>750744734
this. no ones stopping a grown man from deciding to mutilate his junk if he wants to
>>750745218
>I honestly think it has a lot of benefits
>>750745204
Keep on looking for the diamond in the rough dude. I've got a girl that has a foreskin fetish and it. Is. Awesome. She os entranced by my uncut cock and could spend all day long sucking, fucking and playing with it
>>750745088
>some medical reasons for it in certain situations
>100% of the time it's not needed
Is it true that you can't fap without foreskin?
I was always wondering. How it looked like when first guy came up with the idea of cutting his dick for God
>>750744442
There is literally no difference besides aesthetics and 90% of American girls think uncut dicks look gross. You bitches can keep arguing about dicks if you want but that is the bottom fucking line.
I dunno, circumcision is just more aesthetic.
Don't have to clean it and make sure you don't get some sweet smegma but other than that there's really nothing better about being circumcised.
I wish I still had my foreskin but fuck it I guess.
>>750745204
>pain of circumcision is nothing
Go watch a video of one, it's actually nauseating.(not just the gore, but the infant's reaction)
>>750744734
This. There are only two times a hospital will separate a newborn from their parents. (1) If it has to be rushed to the NICU so they can properly triage, and (2) if the baby is taken to be circumcised. I assume the latter is because nobody wants to see their new, innocent baby boy strapped to a table, crying and screaming and bleeding while their foreskin is cut away
>>750745698
first of all, have you seen a child's penis?
second of all, where did you saw that video?
>>750745204
Parents don't circumcise their sons for nothing, they do it because they think they're doing them a favor and because the medical literature says there are a lot of benefits.
Add to it a place where most people are circumcised, and you start thinking it's a no-big-deal surgery that will likely make your sons life easier. it's unlikely he'll be upset over it.
>mfw I am cut and dont have to use lube to jerk off but my brother does
>mfw its because he has a bigger dick than me
>>750745336
>no ones stopping a grown man from deciding to mutilate his junk if he wants to.
(not persuaded by religious fanatics)
>>750745669
For a normal human with basic hygiene cleaning is a serious non-issue. Pull the skin back and then swirl a soapy hand around the knob. Rinse. Adds an additional few seconds to showering. But no, better to just cut the whole thing off.
>>750745492
a dry voter
>>750745868
Nah, that just means they fucked up on him and took more skin off. Baby dicks are small, so its easy to make mistakes, and they don't know how much it will grow, and how much to leave on. It's mostly guesswork, and much of the time they fuck up(they fucked up me too) The movement of the skin aids in jerking off/sex.
>>750745492
no you must be 16, b&
>>750744442
Unless it's medically necessary in modern times it's a pointless procedure, might as well cut off peoples ears too so they don't need to clean them either.
Also remember it was a practice started by some desert hobos in the stone age and became a tradition for descendants of said desert hobos that make bank selling baby dicks to pharmaceutical labs for stem cells.
>>750746134
this is bullshit this has nothing to do with why he needs lube or not, it's literally a habit. i have a tight circumcision and rarely use lube, i just use it for a different sensation.
>>750745868
how do you know that?
>>750745491
>in certain situations
Like phimosis in adults
>not needed in infants
lrn to context
>>750746192
>might as well cut off peoples ears too so they don't need to clean them either
this is such a stupid comparison to circumcision it's ridiculous. how does anybody take this seriously?
>>750746281
I mean, it varies for different guys, but that's my experience. The skin gets sore if I'm not careful dry. And with lube, I can hardly feel anything, as most of the pleasure comes from pulling and moving the skin(which again, there isn't much of), and not just sliding across it.
>>750744734
In my country, boys get cut at ages 10-12. If youre not cut it means youre gay. It is also a very big insult that we even have a word for uncut people
>>750745534
Probably came about the same way as not eating pigs or shellfish. Actual diseases came from eating that shit so they just told everybody not to and when they asked why they just said "god wills it." Dude probably saw his brother's dick get infected and fall off and starting doing it.
Glad I'm circumsised. Looks better and doesn't stink like shit
>>750746370
there are a crowd of people who treat foreskin like a cult religion and say there can't be possibly any medical reason why you'd ever need to be circumcised, and any reason you got circumcised was for nothing.
>>750746316
Drunken conversations between our girlfriends.
>>750744442
>>750744442
uncut
pros - not being mutilated
cons - nothin
cut
pros - nuthin
cons - being mutilated
>>750746465
i got circumcised when i was adult, and for me moving the skin up and down was less pleasures than having an exposed glans with a tight inner foreskin, but to each his own.
>>750744442
I'm a cutfag, I don't mind but I also don't know anything different. I don't think a baby's first experience in life should be pain that extreme, it has to have some sort of negative effect on us psychologically. It definitely shouldn't be normalized like it is.
>>750746488
Yeah but who cares what sand niggers think?
>>750745954
>Pull the skin back
yummy... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4aQiFaCod8
>>750746488
>if you won't let some guy cut off a part of your dick you're gay
???
>>750746713
i can still move the skin up and down to a degree, and i like the tight feeling when i pull it up. feels great. circumcision worked out better for me.
>>750746465
>>750746392
As stupid as cutting off an entire membrane full of nerve endings in newborns because you think they'll be too lazy to wash their own dick once a day?
>>750746855
It's literally dumb i know but culture > rationale i guess
>>750746715
Is monkey, not sand nigger
>This: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw8nc48agJk
>>750746889
there's still the inner foreskin left if done correctly, they just lost the shell, which if you don't have phimosis, comes back during puberty anyways. There's very little difference between an uncircumcised and circumcised penis like this except the skin no longer covers the head while soft and stretches back while hard, which some people prefer (and some don't).
Calling it mutilation is retarded when men are lining up to get it done as adults.
>>750746888
>>750746713
Dude, we have different dicks.
>i like the tight feeling when I pull it up
Maybe these circumcision fetishists do actually exist. to me, that tight feeling just presents itself as pain.
hi hello here to offer a females opinion since so many of you seem so concerned about how your dick looks to women ahah
Uncut dicks are definitely more common where I'm from, and I and most of my friends much prefer it.. foreskin makes handjobs waayyy easier and you don't need to rely so much on lube/spit. Also personally think makes sex more enjoyable as it keeps a lot more natural lube trapped inside and friction doesn't dry everything out as quickly. Plus, most dicks I've seen are already hard so we barely notice the foreskin unless you go soft ahah
Stop stressing about your dicks so much fuckk
Personally I reckon the only reason I would circumcise my son is if there was a medical indication
>>750746708
Cut pros:
Less air resistance, less skin to weigh you down, & at least your dick doesn't look like a turtle
>>750747141
but men aren't lining up to get it done as adults. that's the thing.
>>750747246
>less air resistance
>exposed head and corona
ah yes, the circumfetishists are finally here.
>>750747141
>men are lining up to get it done as adults
LMAO
>>750747197
tits or gtfo
>>750747246
>scars are better than looking like a "turtle"
why do you have to lie so much to yourself and others?
because the truth makes you wanna suicide?
>>750747278
so all these countless accounts you can read online of men getting it done as adults and saying they like it better are false?
>>750745336
I'm uncut. Love my uncut cock. My wife is pregnant woth our first son. She wants him cut, but not for any medical or other usual BS arguments about hygiene. She's the basic bitch that says uncut dicks look weird. (A) That's insulting as fuck to me and (B) a vain reason to perform unnecessary and risky cosmetic surgery on a newborn.
I've made it very clear that I will never consent to it, will never forgive her if she gets it done behind my back, and would consider it grounds for divorce.
If he grows up and wants/needs to be cut, sure. I won't care so long as he makes the informed decision. We have no right to make the decision for him. His first hours should be spent hanging out on mom and dad's chest, sucking some tit, making nasty shits, and just being a baby. Not getting his foreskin sliced off.
>>750747141
Then why aren't we slicing flaps off baby girls for hygiene and aesthetic reasons too? After all as long as they leave the clitoris they'll still have most of their nerve endings.
>>750746488
what's the word?
>>750747448
>>750747350
you can laugh about it all day but it's happening
>>750747499
Supot(Soo-pot)
>>750746192
Paul D Tinari is not a medical doctor, but has a degree in Fluid Dynamics. He was a wackshit anticirc fanatic for years before this "experiment," for which he got called before a review board.
I have two boys. Both were circumcised. The procedure was short and painless. My second son didn't even cry. Both boys cried much worse when they got their immunization shots, about which you wackshits are probably also spreading hoax crap around the internet.
You do realize normies see you and conclude you are all and only obsessed with baby dicks.
fuck off and die.
>>750747448
Why don't you go gather up some of those countless reports and bring them back here, you source less newfag
>>750747386
Guess I'll start off by saying I was circumcised as a baby.
(Hint hint: I didn't get a choice to keep a part of my dick.)
Anyways, I don't hate it. I mean, I can't really. Sure, I was mutilated without choice, but I guess my reasoning is that I don't know what I'm missing out on in terms of having foreskin. People can say the pleasure is better, but sex still feels pretty damn good, so does jacking it.
I guess it's better for the people who do circumcisions, to do it to their children when they are babies. I know it sounds shitty, but at least as a baby you don't remember getting your dick chopped.
>>750746888
pretty sure you need to define up because this shit makes no sense
t. uncut masterrace and it probably feels good because you're stimulating the nerve stumps that would have been your foreskin
>>750747471
Most infant circumcision on girls goes beyond Type 1A and they remove the entire clitoris at minimum.
However, a lot of those "hot porn star" pussies you jack off to have been circumcised by having the clitoral hood removed, and maybe some labia skin, you just haven't realized it until now.
>>750747456
your son will have you to thank when he gets dick cancer.
but, then again, no one here believes you are married with a child.
>>750747718
Why not just not do it?
>>750747632
BTW, infants can go into shock, and thus not cry.
>>750747173
Circumcision fetishist?
It's annoying to get labeled as one simply for preferring my dick without skin that felt like an annoyance overall, but okay.
Praise foreskin, wooo!
>>750746488
>youre gay
>>750747197
they are also more sensitive* and the easy fucking isn't the lube, but the outer skin actually tubesocking, much it does in a handy.
*I've never had a chick who actually wanted a stiff unfeeling rod, and if they did why wouldn't they just get a dildo?
>>750747632
>painless
For you.
I really wish someone came here with
T R U T H
R
U
T
H
and told us the objective facts
>>750747760
so honestly, if we legalized type 1A for infant girls, it would be on the same par as it is for boys.
the difference is that it hasn't been demonstrated to be of any major benefit medically in the studies.
>>750747430
It makes your dick look like a holy tribal warrior, it scares the competition
>>750747878
shock is a medically identifiable condition, and my son did not have it, was not in shock. He was giggling and normal before, during, and after.
when you get falsifying evidence, you invoke uncomfirmable auxiliary hypotheses to make your bullshit unfalsifiable.
quack quack quack, motherfucker.
>>750748005
Ohhhh I didn't think of it like that! That makes a lot of sense though. I just assumed the extra skin helped to trap some fluid, but there ya go ahah thnx for the edumacation
And yeah I've only dated one guy who was circumcised and I found it so hard to work it ahaha blowjobs weren't too difficult but I always felt like I was chafing his dick when i touched it without lube ahahaha
>>750747789
>20% of human population is circumcised
>remaining 80% has dick cancer
Sure thing, boyo.
With a cut cock, you'll never know the sweet feeling of this....
>>750747955
Jokes on you, i like dick AND pussy
>>750748050
you obviously don't have children (because you are a permavirgin neckbeard loser obsessed with baby dicks). But, anyone who has children knows this one fact: when children feel pain, the scream like banshees. if the child shows no pain behavior and acts normally before/during/after, then he is not in pain. to deny this is to subscribe to solipsism.
fuck off, turd breath.
>>750747584
bag eh? cute.
also you're aware that there are a lot of cut fags? like fags who were cut? I mean I get it's cultural and goes with machismo or whatever but... well my cut and completely faggot uncle is actually the reason I'm a supot because having literally fucked and sucked more than a thousand dudes he felt like the supots were more satisfied and overall much more content with their sex lives- which I certainly feel, although I know it's very much psycological, but having a foreskin doesn't hurt.
>>750745669
cutfags actually believe they dont have to wash their dick?
>>750747584
You only cut your dicks in the desperate hope that it would look bigger...! But maybe it looks bigger, but it won’t be bigger.
>>750747878
Sadly, that'that'll probably never happen. We'll still have people in the future cutting dicks. It's inevitable, no matter how much people argue. I'm just saying that I'm glad it happened to me as a baby not a 12-13 year old.
>>750748262
don't forget to start your kid on filterless cigarettes, too, as long as you are a cancer denier. eat shit, child abuser.
>>750748175
no one even sees my dick
i walk fully clothed i live in the civilized world
>>750748389
literally not true at all
a splinter? yeah they fucking ball like Niagara falls. real pain? they are eerily quiet.
>>750748182
I genuinely doubt your baby was giggling while they performed anaesthetic free surgery on his dick
>>750744442
I'll weigh in. I'm cut, I was cut when I was an infant. I was never told this explicitly by my parents. It was something I just figured out when I got older.
I didn't have any nightmares as a young child about being circumcised, the point I was trying to make was that, I didn't even remember being circumcised, it was done to m when I was an infant and therefore I have no memory or trauma of it happening.
Now you could say it was done to me without my consent, which I suppose is true, but I harbor no resentment because of it. I've been cut my whole life, I have no concept of what it's like to be uncut and frankly I don't really care about what ifs.
The thing about it is, if guys waited for adulthood to decide if they wanted to be circumstanced or not, I feel like 9/10 times they would choose no, simply because that's the way their penis has been their whole live and they don't want it to change.
Just like me, this is the way my penis has been my whole life and I'm fine with it.
Also, and this is just s personal thing, foreskins do look vary weird to me.
>>750748481
cutting part of the penis off for a 0.000003% less likelyhood of one type of cancer
>father of the fucking year
>>750747681
>>750747681
This bullshit was written by a feminist and you're a dumbass if you buy into it.
The logic of the first paragraph contradicts the second.
That's how you know a dumbass (likely feminist) woman wrote it.
>>750748417
Yes, fags here are sure to be cut because no one comes out a fag till theyre teen so by then most boys wouldve been cut. I think being cut at this age is better that being cut since birth since theres still a part of the skin left and its like having the best of both worlds
>>750748388
it's only religious claptrap
/b/ happy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HMjOiHqE18&list=RD_HMjOiHqE18&index=1
>>750748473
Cant argue with that. Most really do think that, especially the adults. The religious part of getting cut is almost not known here. Spanish fags brought this shit to us
>>750748389
All these ad hominems and still no argument. And while I don't have kids myself I do work as a operating theater technician and have seen my share of screaming infants go under the knife.
>>750744442
Circumcision is a JEWISH INVENTION.
It is BAD for you. Do not allow your sons
to be marked by this jewish trick.
>>750744442
>let's settle this once and for all
Yeah - that's going to happen.
>>750748837
I wish it was but the nope. People here believe it was done so a boy could transition to manhood. I mean religion wouldve been a better reason right?
>>750748544
Then you obviously aren't fit to bear a scarred penis
Or you could be a man and take the big leap
Whip that slinky out in public
>>750748603
you doubt because you are a gullible dumbfuck who has swallowed quack pseudoscience whole and unfiltered and, so, deny any and all falsifying evidence presented to you.
Science is against you. Every parent who has first-hand witnessed the procedure is against you. Every pediatrician who is involved at any level is against you.
>>750748699
Sorry, where are the contradictions? I don't see what you're talking about haha
And a feminist would never refer to women as "attention whores" wtf are you on about
>>750749032
kill yourself
>>750748952
Oh shut the fuck up
>>750748698
why not add more zeros, as long as pulling shit out of your ass?
>>750747719
I'm circumcised and I can do this when I'm soft.
It does make sense. You guys just don't understand circumcision and what it actually does to your dick.
I still have inner foreskin that's super sensitive, probably as much as you do (or more if I have a bigger dick). I just got all the outer skin removed. So yes, I can still pull it up over my head, especially when it's soft. The difference is that as soon as I let it go, it retracts all the way back so I don't have to deal with the inconveniences that causes with foreskin.
After I hit puberty, at least a part of my glans would hang out of the foreskin even when flaccid, so I never had the benefit of it wetting the entire glans (I actually hated that sensation when it was there and was happy when I could actually touch my dick head and get it sucked without pain and tearing).
Fuck foreskin so overrated. Getting that shit removed when I was older was the best thing I did to my dick.
>>750748645
>Also, and this is just s personal thing, foreskins do look vary weird to me.
suck about a hundred more dicks and it will start to seem normal.
but seriously this isn't about you and your mutilated penis. this is about you if you ever have a son, nephew, grandson, buddy having a kid. being uncut really is better. all the dicks I've ever seen except my brothers were, guess what, completely cut. All the pics, all the porn, the other kids growing up, my dad in the shower. And I get that the perfect dildo shaped normal american cutfag penis is aesthetically more pleasing but that's not why boys wouldn't elect to cut part of their dick off (unless they are philipino and afraid of been supot). they wouldn't because it fucking feels good.
If you dont' think so consider the original (and oddly for some people current) reason for circumcision: as a masturbation preventative. And let me ask you something else, uncutfag to cutfag: did it work, at all, even a little? I'm guessing no.
>>750749029
That land belongs to Palestine
>>750748952
back to /pol/tardia, shmegma guzzler.
>>750749154
Not a sand nigger tho
>>750744442
I had to get cut at 35 yo because of scarring from a bad zipper accident...
Much less sensitive now, and I had to use lube even when masturbating. I know I had to get cut, but 6 years later I still miss how good sex felt before I was cut.
I used to last 30 minutes or so and 5 if if we were going for a quicky. Now it takes more than an hour to get off, and there's no option for a quicky for me. It's just not as good being circumcised as it was before
you;d think that's a good thing
>>750748757
part of the skin being left depends on the skill of the cutter, not the age.
but honestly I don't know which is worse, being so scared of being seen as a fag that you'll cut part of your cock off to prove you're not or american style 100% ignorant circumcision.
>>750749094
prooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooof me wrong then
>>750749053
It says that people would tell women to say "Tits or gtfo" because they got tired of women using their nature as a woman for attention or opinion validation, which is exactly what happens in any situation no matter how you spin it?
Two things : how do you not know it's a dude pretending to be a chick and saying he's a girl so he makes himself sound "legit", and how do you take a woman's opinion seriously when she won't even show her (presumably gross) tits on an anonymous image board for proof?
It's just a good standard to have. No matter how many butthurt cunts join this board this standard won't change.
>>750749038
I'm sure the dozens of howling babies I've seen would agree with me
>>750749223
Do you mean to say you're not Israeli?
>>750749094
Nice b8
>>750744442
My kid is nine and I didn't get him cut. It looks a little weird but he hasn't had health issues and he knows to clean it.
>>750749154
Palestine was the name given by the Romans to a territory. The arabs living there now didn't arrive until after the Turks withdrew, because Turks hated Arabs. The "palestinians" have no "palestinian" language, no "palestinian" kings to speak of, no "palestinian" culture, no "palestinian" anything. It is a well-documented fiction invented in 1967.
But, you are such a good kafir for obeying your arab/muslim masters and believing without question the bullshit they feed you.
>>750749071
I've been considering it
>>750749275
Hmm i guess it depends on the cut. Maybe we do it differently. first one is the dumber reason. I got cut relatively late, like 12, and most of my peers were already when they were 10 and got shit on heavily when i was in the 6th grade
>>750749397
he said he's a monkey
>>750749383
quack quack quack
>>750749225
I wonder how your circ was done because I got circumcised as an adult 10 years ago and can literally cum in 1 minute sometimes and on a horny lazy day i can cum like 10 times.
>>750749397
Yes
>>750749225
>and I had to use lube even when masturbating
So, like, b4 you'd rely on the wetness that naturally develops under the foreskin to lube your dick even when jerking off.
That's smegma. Says you don't wash much. Fuck, your hands must have smelled like pure disgusting after a wank.
>>750749083
No. In fact I hope more Islamist bastards attack
inside of the US. It's the 2nd home of the jews
who started this circumcision bullshit and for
that reasons alone we need more jihadist
attacks inside america against jewish targets.
Fuck you jewface.
>>750749100
>I still have inner foreskin that's super sensitive
so I have five times as much and it keeps the head from being desensitized (which is what happens when uncutfags play how long can I leave the foreskin back in my pants)
>hated that sensation
it's all what you're used to
>Fuck foreskin so overrated
keep in mind you had a partial from a botched circumcision, you would most likely not have had the problem if you were uncut or the doc hadn't been having a bad day.
I’m Jewish and I’m against circumcision. A lot of us actually are now. https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/even-in-israel-more-and-more-parents-choose-not-to-circumcise-their-sons-1.436421
I want you to consider what that means.
Pro side is that girls in America prefer cut and you can be a lazy slob. It’s like if girls in England preferred it when guys cut their ears off. It’s less functional, but at least you don’t have to wash behind them.
>>750745757
Stupid religious fucks upload videos of their kids' brit milah
I'm uncut and if I truly though cut was better I would do it. I have the choice
>>750749142
Better or worst is relative and you wouldn't really know if being cut is worst if you've never been cut.
I'm not say either one of us are wrong, I'm just saying we have different perspectives.
>>750745759
>it's unlikely he'll be upset over it.
Is that really a risk you want to take?
>>750749142
it's ingrained in him / her, the preference is instilled during development, there's about nothing you can do to change it.
that's like me telling you to start getting off on black women when you don't care for them. you're asking him / her to brainwash themselves so they can start liking foreskin.
it's like telling a gay guy to start getting off on women, it's not going to work.
>>750749533
Why skirt around saying you're pinoy
>>750749553
fuck yourself, slav faggot. you'll never measure up to the least of us.
>>750749497
>>750747509
Because you said so?
>>750749375
Doesn't say anything about "opiniom validation"
Clearly just talks about chicks flaunting their femininity unnecessarily/with no context and posting timestamps and pics to attract desperate fags who might slide them a compliment.
If you want proof it's a chick, ask for a pic with timestamp (not attention grabbing bc she was asked). Tits literally have no form of validation for her opinion. If anything people will take her less seriously and start calling her a whore. There's no winning, which is why /b/ has turned into a 100% sausage fest and women rarely stick around
>>750749475
thank you
>>750749708
I want to do the pinoy pride without announcing im pinoy
>>750749588
>I'm Jewish
= "my ancestors were jewish, but I'm a secular dumbshit who has no fucking idea about or identification with actual Judaism and am indistinguishable from any other non-Jew, and so I'm happy to betray and backstab actual Jews"
>>750749537
>What is precum
Amerimutt sexual education, everyone
>>750747632
If you think Tinari is a quack, look up Brian J Morris.
Also, are you legitimately trying to argue that cutting up a penis with a scalpel and clamp isn't painful? You don't need a study to know that's bullshit.
>>750749736
your all just /b/een repetitively circularize...ha ha!
>>750749563
>which is what happens when uncutfags play how long can I leave the foreskin back in my pants
No it isn't, I just had a shorter foreskin, not a long disgusting elephant trunk foreskin. TBH if I had a longer foreskin at the time, I'd want want to hold it back too, because it's gross as fuck phimosis cock.
All what I'm used to? I grew up uncut and got circumcised when I was older because I hated it.
>>750747789
Penile cancer is very, very, very, very rare. Male breast cancer is more common, for crying out loud.
>>750749877
Fair, but yo're talking about tuli, odd thing to take pride in
>>750749375
nobody cares, move on
>>750748389
You're full of shit.
t. Jew
>>750749537
you really don't know, buddy
I think the phrase is 'tubesock'
the loose skin slides, no need for wetness.
feel free to keep thinking that it has to be smegma, what you've got to do to keep yourself happy, your issues aren't my problem
>>750750050
Relative to culture, it is
>>750749916
not painful if anesthetics are used. what 3rd world backwater do you come from?
Also, Morris is a medical scientist, winner of the Edgeworth David Medal. He has a thousand-fold more credibility to speaking on medical matters than does a fucking fluid engineer.
just admit it, you are on the quack pseudoscience side of this debate.
>>750744734
fpbp. The thing is, how do we convince the general public to stop?
>>750750156
>>750749038
He's been drinking cold hard reality straight from the spring, while you're drunk on the fumes of ideology.
I'm cut, decided to leave my newborn son intact. Wife left the decision totally up to me since she "doesn't have one." If he wants to make that decision for himself later in life that's his call.
>>750749771
dude you're a pussy, enough said.
A woman should give us her fucking tits on this board if she wants to get heard. They get away with enough in real life by playing us and not giving anything back.
Why do you want dumb cunts flooding this board with their opinions and their attention flaunting anyway? I honestly don't want to hear what most women have to say. They're not "leaders" on anything.
Tits or GTFO is literally like a regulation on this board. It stops cancer from happening. If you weren't posting 2006 or before you can't say shit.
>>750749508
basically after I healed, a full erection was painful, the skin was so tight
-- it took 2 months for the skin to stretch enough that I could have sex without it hurting so much that it killed the mood.
>>750749471
>implying Turks aren't/have no Arab ancestry/heritage
>Also implying nobody lived in the land known as 'Palestine' before it was invaded in 1948
But, you are such a good brainwashed Westerner for obeying your Western Capitalist masters and believing without question the bullshit they feed you.
if there were ever a double standard in the US, it's male circumcision. imagine a mothers reaction if a doctor suggested snipping of her newborn daughters clitoris.
foreskin is the male equivalent and any circumcision on a non-consenting person is an egregious violation of their human rights.
>>750745588
Do you know 90% of the American girls?
>>750750205
Yeah, sure I guess that's me being ignorant whitey. But then again, deep down inside I feel like a culture where you are shamed for not cutting your skin off is a little strange
>>750749882
Because I’m against one outdated tradition? Ever notice how Hasidic Jews all dress like they’re still in Poland circa 1780? They just chose a wire time to declare to be the end all. Just like the Amish. I’m a modern reform Jew. Deal with it.
>>750750123
>>750750123
Nobody cares about your worthless opinion either you dumb whore so flash us your knockers or fuck right off.
Dear cut people, why do you even bother attempting to put forth a decent argument? Even if being cut WAS better, uncut people still have the choice to get cut if they please, where as you don't have a choice, you're mutilated and can do nothing about it.
>>750750360
you obviously didn't learn anything about abductive reasoning while getting that AA degree, huh?
>>750749882
>no true Jew
Shouldn't you be with your family on Shabbos, frumak?
>>750750547
poor choice of language. some of the most anti-circumcision are bound to be cut. your post should read: dear insecure cut people, because that's who defends it. there is a strange machismo around it.
>>750750547
You can regrow the skin. By stretching it. They make devices for this. They’re hilarious
>>750750382
That's what my dad said about me, and how I intend to raise my kids
>>750750645
you can restore without any goofy device. they do work apparently, but doing it yourself is better. people put too much trust in some of those contraptions.
>>750750382
I knocked a girl up when we were both in our early teens. She left and I ended up with our kid. He is intact now and I've only had a handful of problems with it. It'll be worth it later in life imo.
>>750750459
I agree that it is strange. Also a waste of tax since the goverment fund free tuli every summer
>>750750592
It ends at sundown. Plus it’s now Sunday.
I’m the one he claimed wasn’t a true Jew ™
>>750750537
literally nobody's opinion matters in /b/, mate ahaha you're absolutely pissed if you think that's going to make me fuck off or if you think your opinion is any less worthless than mine ahahah have a good one x
>>750750273
Morris gets repeatedly disavowed by every institution he's worked at. The RAACP issued a report recommending against routine circumcision.
>>750750435
I honestly think we should ban both for infants or legalize type 1A on infant girls to make it even key. Snip the foreskin and clitoral hood, or leave them both alone.
This is what it really comes down to.
>>750747141
It is mutilation and awful.
Cutting dick skin from babies is a retarded Jewish practice.
>>750745759
>because the medical literature says there are a lot of benefits.
Yeah, not a chance that's got anything to do with the massive amount of money involved in its cosmetic & research uses. I'm sure the doctors who recommend & perform it get no kickbacks whatsoever.
>>750750849
True, but I'd go for government funded hospital tuli over riverside spit-chewed-leaf-on-your-dick and cut it with a sharp rock tuli any day.
>>750750874
and your opinion instant doesn't matter if you say "femanon here..." with no timestamped tits to prove it.
you're the worst kind of whore of them all at that point.
you're saying "GIRL HERE, HERE'S WHY OPINION IS WORTH MORE BECAUSE I'M A GIRL".
What man does this on here? No one.
>>750750984
ban it or force it on both? that's fucked up, anon. I'll take ban both.
>>750751082
hahaha i was cut that way and jesus christ fuck the spaniard for ever introducing this to the philippines
>>750751015
you can't call it mutilation when a bunch of adult men get it done. if it was mutilation no significant amount of adults would be constantly getting it done.
it's been going on all over the world before Jews, it's just another concept they took and claimed it as theirs, like most other shit they do.
>>750745204
>might cost you a couple blowjobs.
From bitches who would REEEEEE like autists about female circumcision.
AKA stupid fucking bitches that could be strung up & hung tomorrow & the world would be better off without.
>>750750426
The Arabs who moved in when the Ottomans (Turks) left were prevented from moving in earlier by those self-same Ottomans. It is irrelevant whether they had some common ancestor thousands of years prior. And, if it is relevant, then the Jews have the same prior ancestor.
Yes, the land was mostly empty. Look up census data. Most of the land the Jews acquired was purchased from willing sellers.
The only invasion in 1948 was from Arab nations in a war of aggression to destroy the legitimate state of Israel.
Bet you don't know that Jordan sits on 2/3 of the former territory of Palestine. Are you screaming and boycotting to get the Jordanians to give back their "occupied" land to the "palestinians"? no, of course not, because you are a dumbshit who knows nothing except the thin layer of arab oil-money paid-for bullshit in that pamphlet you picked up.
>>750751233
Answer me, if they are equivalent, and porn star women are already doing it to themselves for the "better cosmetic results and the benefits", why can't we say ban both or make both legal? It's only logical.
Either get the feminists finally on board or we're giving their daughters the option for the chop.
>>750751239
Oh fuck, but now that you say that I have 100% more respect for your manhood. I slightly understand tuli more now
>>750751115
I don't do it if my opinion didn't make a difference whether I was male or female? I am on /b/ very regularly and majority of my replies give away nothing about myself
Guys on here, and on every single other circumcision thread I've seen, allwaayyys talk about what women prefer. Always. So that's why I offered an opinion with CONTEXT of how I know what some women prefer and why they prefer it, ya nutjob.
Never said my opinion was worth more than anyone elses ahaha you need to chill the fuck out, mate. You seem a bit conflicted though... do I need timestamped tits to make my opinion valid or is my opinion automatically invalid by stating I am a female? You're the one being contradictory now..
>>750747632
...are you completely ignoring that there's a huge market for infant foreskins, sold to the pharmaceutical & cosmetics industries? And that, knowing how fucking 'Murica is, there's a huge, huge chance doctors are influenced in whether or not to recommend it based on getting kickbacks from them for doing so?
>>750751524
Firsr sentence is phrased poorly: I don't do it if my gender is irrelevant to the point I'm trying to make ahaha
>>750744442
im cut. apparently doctors thought it helped prevent infection, which today, according to new studies, it CUT DICKS do not prevent the risk of infections. I was cut when I was a baby, what choice did I have, no choice at all. I hear most women prefer cut over uncut though.
>>750751286
>a bunch of adult men get it done
Nowhere near the number cut as infants.
>>750751286
I guess you think branding isn't mutilation either. If it's supposed to be there, and you cut it off, that's mutilation. Would you cut off your middle finger because everyone else thinks it's obscene? Maybe if they told you that it would get you laid more you would chop that fucker off yourself. Holy shit sheeple suck
>>750751592
huh, you don't say? and the moon landing, total hoax, amirite?
>>750751524
K.
So if what you're saying is true, and you're on an anonymous image board, why can't a girl post her boobs with a timestamp so a bunch of men don't start pretending they're women (which they often do) to make guys think that they prefer circumcised / uncircumcised, when it's all bullshit just to see others get upset / validate themselves.
You have nothing to lose by posting tits on an anonymous image board. Nobody knows who you or your tits are, except that you're actually a girl.
So yeah, once again, it's a great standard, and women should post them if they want to be taken seriously.
You can't argue against this.
>>750751864
The moon landing is acknowledged worldwide. The benefits of infant circumcision are not. No other developed country (other than Israel) cuts up boys' genitalia at the rate the US does.
>>750751864
Google search "neonatal foreskin sales" you fucking autist. Well known fact there's a huge fucking market for this.
>>750752027
tell me more about that "huge market" for infant foreskins, the demand for which is so great, it has "bought off" the medical community who has endorsed circumcision.....
>>750744442
lol a cutted dick doesn't look anywhere near as shinny as the one on the illustration, its all dried and chaffed
>>750752217
>>750752040
^^^^^^^^^^
>>750752217
Ask the other poster
>>750752040
>"neonatal foreskin sales"
yeah, wow, the google results are so telling, /pol/tardist fuckface.
>>750751769
The number is increasing since infant circumcision is going down.
Look I know it wouldn't be nearly as high as the amount of infants, but it doesn't change the fact that there is a significant % of men who get circumcised for sexual / cosmetic and medical reasons and report benefits.
The truth is that there is no GOOD data because there is heavy cultural bias one way or another. One fact is though is that it is becoming so easy to circumcise an adult male that the argument for infant circumcision will become weaker.
I believe just because it involves the genitals most people have a poor understanding of circumcision. It's not bad or scary if you take the non-consenting infant out of the equation and that it's not nearly as hard or painful of a surgery as it used to be.
>>750744442
Jews are the true master race. They have the highest IQs and they use them to rule over pathetic little white trash like you. They control everything: the banks, the media, Hollywood, the military industrial complex, EVERYTHING. It's not because they're corrupt, it's because they're smarter and harder working than you.
>>750752426
Maybe try it without the quotes, cabron.
>>750752242
I think this happens only if you're unhealthy or use really harsh soap in the bathtub.
You can look at most porn videos and they aren't "dried and chaffed".
>>750752551
400USD
LOL
>>750752426
>not removing quote marks
>>750752551
delet this
>>750752551
Goddamn, kinda wish I still had mine so I could take it off and make some sweet cheddar
>>750752551
The medical industry sells a lot of other stuff from surgery, organs, etc. so I don't get how this is unique to circumcision?
>>750752437
>It's not bad or scary if you take the non-consenting infant out of the equation
Yeah. That one little thing. Pesky ethics and basic human decency getting in the way all the time
Pro uncut:
>u can jerk off bare hand without ever touching precum
>>750752610
$400xthe 1.9 million male births in the US in 2015=
$796 million. Harder to dismiss a billion, isn't it?
>>750744442
Kinda glad my parents got me cut.
I dunno what I'm missing out on in the feelings department... but at least my dick doesn't look like those worms from Peter Jackson's: King Kong.
>>750752551
oh wow, I see the difference. Now, it's a bunch of pseudoscience conspiracy theorist propagating anti-circ bullshit sites.
I guess if enough anti-circ sites all repeat the same lie, it must magically turn into the truth.
I'll wait for you to post an article from the WSJ or the NYT. Until then, eat cum, wackshit.
>>750752787
The skin in this case is taken from nonconsenting patients. You might call it organ harvesting, but that would offend the tender sensibilities of its supporters.
>>750752584
LOL post one just one pic of a cut dick that doesnt look chaffed and dried. You are probably confusing ones with pussy juice or lube
Cutted penis is exposed to daily abrasion, tear and wear. Its natural the skin will grow think and it loses the mucous layer that makes a natural penis moist and shinny
>>750752931
t. le ebin shitposter
XDDD
>>750752804
I was talking about people choosing to do it to themselves and circumcision as a general concept, nothing to do with infants, you preachy fuckwad.
>>750753020
Oops. I misread.
>>750751915
Sorry to rustles your jimmies so much mate, but I don't agree and think that timestamps and tits are more of a grab for attention than anything else. A pic of a femanons face is usually enough to confirm their gender
But hey, maybe I am just a bloke fucking with you ;) who knows
>>750752963
yeah, keep selling us on that shmegma slime
no woman agrees with you. they all prefer cut dick.
>>750752931
Second google search link in that image is to a site directly selling cultures made from those infant foreskins. Dumbass.
>>750745448
Stfu Your on /b/ the only gf your gonna get anytime soon is an online AI trap gf
>>750753105
>no woman agrees with you. they all prefer cut dick.
If they wereen't given a fucking choice, it wouldn't matter. They should get as much say in this as WE do in whether or not THEY get circumcised. Which I happen to think looks 10,000x better & less disgusting on a woman.
>>750752787
Because its an unnecessary procedure that introduces unnecessary harm and stress not to mention decreased sensibility so that fat CEOs can profit of your child's dick. Do you honestly not see whats wrong with that?
They make money from the procedure cost, and from the foreskin itself which can be used in the making of nivea creams, skin grafts, stem cells research etc
>>750744442
Nature always wins.
Also circumcised means you've been marked by the jew.
>>750746955
but it's not tho
i think that's the point of >>750744734 .
>>750753105
"no woman agrees with you. they all prefer cut dick."
That's the stupidest statement I ever heard.
>>750753105
lol most women of the civilized world prefer natural penis is the most common
The US is the only first world country were circ is common, then you have jewrael, muslims and Africans. GG fag
>>750753125
so, let me see if I get this straight. you link to a medical tissue site which sells every type of medical tissue from every part of the human body for research, at exorbitantly high prices, and this proves.....
"a huge market for infant foreskins, sold to the pharmaceutical & cosmetics industries"
LMAO
keep trying, wackshit.
>>750752963
The mucous layer is fucking nasty. If you have an uncut dick that doesn't come out of the foreskin like it's hard when it's supposed to, you literally can't actually touch it without causing a tear or making it bleed. It will definitely smell at that point no matter what you do to it. You just have this sausage stick at that point that can only go in an out of its own skin and can't tolerate direct stimulation. Half of uncut guys have their glans that at least partially hangs out of their glans and dries out, so I never get this "extra sensitivity" argument, it's not true for a lot of uncut people. The only thing you have is more outer foreskin. That's all.
>>750753405
Does it sell foreskins or not at "exorbitantly high prices", troll?
>>750753290
yeah they generalize US with the rest of the world and even in the US is not over 50% anymore
Like i prefer women with cut pussies, i dont like that roast beef look please trim it down gals
>>750744734
This. If you wanna cut off your manhood. Go ahead. But don't force me to do it.
>>750753469
a good portion of guys with foreskins that are long like that move on to get phimosis anyways.
>>750753495
it also sells lips, livers, and anus skin, too, dumbfuck. NOTHING of your bullshit conspiracy theory has even begun to see the first shred of evidence.
just admit it, you are on the losing side of the debate.
>>750753537
you probably do, a good portion of porn stars have cut pussies
>>750746488
What country?
>>750753290
...says the shmegma-rich permavirgin who can't find a woman
>>750746488
What kind of shithole you leave in?
>>750746532
Are you not able of taking a shower once a day?
>>750753611
>first shred
I'd say proving it is sold AT ALL to you counts as much more than a shred.
Now fuck off, troll, the adults are having a discussion here.
>>750753469
Natural penis have thinner skin and are naturally moist. more sensitive
If you shower daily you wont have any problems with odors as with any part of your body, what are you some kind of hobo?
Intact penis are more sensitive on account of two things
1. Foreskin protects glands from daily abrasion with underwear/clothes and keeps the skin moist and sensititve vs a cutted penis which is dry and has developed a thicker skin as a result of daily exposure
2. Natural nerve endings on the foreskin, gliding mechanism while on intercourse and freunulum
>>750753611
that's what turned me off to some intactivists, they use a lot of BS to scare people away from circumcision and make it way worse than it actually is
>>750753734
>not understanding how medical research works
when you finish 6th grade, maybe you'll learn something about how data can count as evidence for a hypothesis.
>>750744442
>>750746714
Do you remember being circumcised? No. So shut your pussy trap up. Babies cry about every fucking thing. I swear there are a lot of stupid fucks in here.
>>750744442
the human brain reacts to trauma and develops diferently specially in your formative years
being a baby and having "no memory" of it is irrelevant. im not talking about personality, its the psyche.
I have read scientific papers that prove circumsition has long term effects on it. But the interpretation was exagerated talking about how people would turn out to be psychopaths and shit
which even though the scientific evidence is there it is clearly untrue since there is a sizeable portion of the world who is circumcised, so the only thing we know is that it affects the brain of the circumcised boy long term.
how it is affected we can only speculate
>>750753846
same story here with me. every one I've ever met has been certifiable wackjob.
>>750749383
>babies cry
>>750753992
Glad to hear not remembering something makes it okay. Bill Cosby will be pleased.
>>750753995
>scientific papers
alleged to exist on that anti-circ website...
>>750747141
only America, jews and a couple of nigger tribes in Africa do that. Puritans thought it will prevent boys from masturbation, but cmon.
>>750753995
That was a nice, well thought out answer. Now go back to your fucking hole.
What is seriously so hard to get about "don't cut off part of the baby's genitals without an immediate medical urgency to do so"?
Americans & Jews, weirdest fucks ever.
>>750754090
There is such pussification in this world. Go fuck yourself with your uncircumcised Dick, no one gives a fuck what you think
http://www.thealternativedaily.com/study-finds-male-circumcision-saves-womens-lives/
I don't think circumcision is going away any time soon, lol.
>>750754092
I read hard copies
in spanish
>>750754155
what hole? the fuck? its just research man
science is just a bunch of trials that can be disproven with further investigation
stop getting so buttmad faggots
>>750753846
no need for bs to make it worse than it actually is
You are removing a part of the body without consent. If this was done on consenting adults or at the very least 16+ teens it would be a different story
>>750754217
What is so hard to get about mind your own fucking business? If you Don't like circumcision, don't fucking do it. Who the fuck are you to tell anyone how to raise their brat? Let me guess, "but the Muslims....blah, blah blah"
>>750754299
>thealternativedaily
Reliable source, kek.
Studies also show that not being a fucking whore can reduce chances of spreading STD's to men by up to 100%; but that won't stop shit.
>>750749907
This
>>750754253
Except you do seem to care or you'd not bother replying.
Being circumsized myself i can tell you there are no benefits.
What ive heard from people is that
>it allows the penis to be cleaner.
Thats horseshit. Its like amputating fingernails for the same reason.
>its better looking
Guess what guys.. A girl will tell you your penis is good and the other guys is gross. A mother will want a childs penis to be like his fathers.
Worldwide women like uncircumsized better because there is MORE OF THEM. Its that simple.
I hate that ive been changed from my natural state. Sex is a big thing to me and the fact that it could be ever so slightly different from what nature intended forever irks me
>>750754414
Fucking kek, only in Murica could "please don't cut your baby's genitals unless there's an urgent medical need" could cause this kind of angry butthurt.
Why is this country allowed to have nukes ffs?
>>750754530
Only niggers and faggot have uncircumcised cocks. That's why they always have their hand on a dick
>>750754813
What ever fits your narrative.
>>750754360
I can agree there.
Where I close my ears is when I hear "there are no medical reasons ever for circumcision", "you should sue your parents", and that you "have a mutilated butchered torn up penis".
>>750754813
Solid, strong argument in favor of slicing up an infant's genitalia over here.
>>750754543
Only Eurofags talk shit about "Murica". The fact is, your shitty government run healthcare probably won't cover a circumcision, so you bash Americans who can just pay for it out of pocket, because Americans are awesome like that
>>750754857
Wouldn't have any of that if it was not allowed to be chosen by parents as an "elective" procedure. Leave it up to them to decide for themselves & nobody can complain.
>>750755063
>your shitty government run healthcare probably won't cover a circumcision
They would if there was a fucking medical need for it; but NOT "because the parents want his dick to look like that instead"; like you were fucking docking a dog's ears or tail. I'd say it easily makes our healthcare far superior.
If you faggot would quit drooling over uncut cock pics on 4chan, you wouldn't have such penis envy, and cry about your parents getting you circumcised. Fucking millennials.
Do you like pretty woman?
>>750755306
If whores would stop living in the "free" heretical west, they would no longer complain about having sinful bits excised with a sharp stone by holy women in the name of Allah. Infidels.
>>750754857
the medical reasons seem silly when most of the civilized world doesnt have any issues with it, its like most of its benefits are null if you shower like you would on a civilized society
and it herpes with aids its such an african excuse, dont you feel degraded one of the reasons for the procedure is to combat aids on african tribes?
You also reduce sensitiviy cant argue with that and waht about the tan scar? or the more chaffed glands
>>750755233
It's easier to keep a cut cock clean, fucktard. It's not "just for looks". As a matter of fact, some uncircumcised faggot had a post on here earlier about what the fuck was growing on the petri dish that was his uncircumcised penis.
>>750751286
actually you can because that's legitimate mutilation if it's forced on someone. that amount of men who get it done as adults, which is actually very small, doesn't change that.
>>750751390
please, show me a born star who is getting their clit or clitoral hood cut off. it doesn't exist. labia plasti? sure, but clit hood removal? that's not happenig.
it's not logical. just because one is fucked up it doens't make the other any less.
>>750755350
http://www.drmomma.org/2009/10/foreskins-in-oprahs-facecream.html
This is what I tell my girlfriend when I want a blowjob.
Honestly who came up with cutting the foreskin? Who in their right mind thought "HEY THIS FORESKIN THING SHOULD BE LESSENED BECAUSE SOMEHOW THAT'LL BE HEALTHIER, ALSO LETS ENFORCE IT ON OUR KIDS"
>>750755895
Jews
>>750755625
clit hood removal is part of a typical labiaplasty.
google it
>>750755502
he also said he wished he was cut lol
>>750755502
>It's easier to keep a cut cock clean
do you not shower daily in your country? Is soap in poor supply? I do not understand why it is so easy for the rest of the world to keep themselves clean, yet so hard for you that you must cut off parts of your children's bodies in order to accomplish it.
>>750756304
Is america simply much dirtier than any other country? How is it possible to be dirtier than India? Truly I do not understand this.
I lost my v-card at 15, got phimosis and had to be circumcised at 22. I'm 29 now, equidistant in age on both sides of the coin. I've enjoyed my sex life way more than when I was uncircumcised. Girls seem to be into circumcised dicks more and they say it feels different to them, more friction but a good friction since you know.. it's slippery.
You guys need to stop arguing over cocks on the internet... get your shit together.
>>750751054
The sarcasm is strong with this one.
>>750756604
Got cut when i was older and same exact outcome. Dont miss my foreskin at all.
>>750751286
and theres a bunch of adult men who think penile subincision is a good idea too but It's still self inflicted mutilation
