"No difference" they say "Just the same"
The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
"No difference" they say
"Just the same" they say
Remember what happened 70 years ago? Thats where fascism leads. Remember that our forefathers gave their lives to stop this poison.
>>748104088
Antifa is a bunch of faggots kneejerk reacting at best, a terrorist organisation at worst.
>>748104464
It stands for anti-facism does it not? They fight against terrorists.
>>748104088
fuck off faggot go cry in /pol/
>>748105224
hey, has it slipped your mind what random means?
>>748105224
This is you
I don't trust antifa to define who is and isn't a nazi, and I don't see any good reason to let them attack people instead of letting the police make arrests when laws are actually broken.
>>748104088
>70 years ago
>1947
are we talking about?
>>748105921
here's a hint: the guys shouting "JEWS WILL NOT REPLACE US" and giving the heil hitler salute are the Nazis you goddamn fucking retard.
>>748105921
This.
>>748106459
Fuck off back to tumblr
>>748104979
>hurr durr marketing materials never, ever, ever lie because that would be immoral and capitalism is my definition of moral
oh, it's retarded
gb2/pol/
>>748106294
the UN, the Birch Society, the anti-communist pogrom still underway today :^)
>>748106447
kill yourself, jew
>>748106756
suck my long floppy foreskin you nazi shitbag
>>748106447
They may be Nazis, but, what if this time, they're right?
>>748107194
nigga plz
>>748107194
Nazis are not ever right. I get that you're young and edgy and genocide is an abstraction, but it's the ultimate evil and you need to grow the fuck up and accept that.
>>748104088
The issue isn't with wanting to stop nazis.
The issue is that you have people who are using the fight against fascism as a tool to implement their own political agenda which seeks to crush, through violent struggle, anyone and anything which opposes it.
>>748106756
Capitalism is immoral. Neoliberal deregulated capitalism even more so. fascism however, is utterly disgusting and repugnant. A dead fascist is the acceptable form.
>>748107194
>no knowledge of history
jews were traditionally banned from unions and other professional organizations, which kept them out of most jobs (except finance, since handling money was once considered a dirty profession).
Media was new at the turn of the last century and as such had no entrenched bodies to prohibit them from working there, so that's why historically jews have always been over-represented in television.
>>748107414
>>748106447
>also, anyone right of the far authoritarian left
>also, anyone who questions my definition of a nazi
>also, sometimes one of our own who kinda looks like he might be a nazi
I feel ya. If you want to make an omelette, you gotta break a few eggs.
>>748107226
>implying that i love trump
The whole system is caked with jews. Yet you don't seem to think that's a problem.
>>748107308
>the ultimate evil
Then stop doing it to the white man, jew. Here's a nice (((moderate))) site for you to suck on
https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/6_casedeaton.pdf
>>748107664
I don't think it's a problem because I am not a conspiratorial idiot who can't accept my own failings and therefore blames imaginary bogeymen.
>>748104088
>communists killing tens of millions of people
I think we all should remember
the first fascist was mussolini, and he wasn't a racist
>>748107625
It's not a strawman if it's true, spergmong.
Nazis thought they were "stopping that guy"
We're your jew
>>748107664
misapplication of a citation retard, plus you don't seem to know what the word genocide means.
White people are not being exterminated en masse. We're just not breeding. Go ahead, how many aryan babies have you spawned?
>>748104088
Op looks a bit hungry how about some pizza
>>748107749
>I don't believe in imaginary boogeyman
>says the man who blame everything wrong with niggers on 'systemic racism'
>guy who says repugnant shit
>guy who assaults someone
You're right it should be easy to tell that ANTIFA are worse
>>748107849
>plement their own political agenda which seeks to crush, through violent struggle, anyone and anything which opposes it.
Funny, ANTIFA didn't mow anyone down in Charlottesville. You're literally proving OP's point you fucking retard
>>748107419
This is true. Fascism has three pillars, not all of which are satisfied by the movement under study.
Anti-liberal yes
Anti-communist yes
Anti-conservative NO
>>748107548
That's as may be. Now they lord it over us as self-declared moral leaders. This is a problem.
>>748107647
>identity politics is far left
>the literal application of market consumerism to social order is far left
Stop lying anytime
>>748107749
>i'm just a jew
Nobody said anything about conspiracy. Tribal or class interest works perfectly well to achieve the subjugation of an out-group without explicit coordination.
How's the weather in Herzliya?
>>748107929
you fuckers and your strawmen...and yeah why haven't blacks caught up with us 100%? They've had since 1968 to do it, they should absolutely be even with those who ruled them for hundreds of years
>>748108009
No, they just stop traffic in order to assault everyone who was leaving. Everytime you "anti-Fascists" come out, you get caught beating someone with a bike lock or a baseball bat.
>>748108026
like I told the other fucker, probably you samefagging, "suck my long floppy foreskin", with love from Ohio.
>>748108168
lol proving OPs point again. They're not murdering people, but the neo nazis are.
>>748108009
>there has been no violence aside from the 1 death in charlottesville
this is what antifa supporters actually believe
>>748108009
the "counter-protesters" were clearly there to cause trouble and assault people
>>748108026
well we certainly lack for moral leaders at the moment, why are "media jews" so disqualified? Other than genital mutilation
>>748104088
I wish you commie cunts and nazi fucks would actually quit larping and just kill each other so the rest of society could live happily. Quit the hyperbolic social media and blog posts. Quit the sucker punches. Quit the tiki torch parties. Just start removing each other please.
>>748108219
>1 death
apparently the nazi's aren't murdering people either
>>748108253
how many people murdered by ANTIFA? I'll wait while you find a citation numbnuts
>>748107907
>Genocide is intentional action to destroy a people (usually defined as an ethnic, national, racial, or religious group) in whole or in part.
I don't see anything about en masse or extermination in that capsule definition there.
>We're just not breeding
>we
Financial growth comes from two sources: productivity gains and population gains. If productivity gains can't be achieved, population gains are the only way to "make the numbers".
Your aim here is to impose a ersonal debt on everyone to prevent them from genociding the bourgeoisie as they have earned several times over. You're a neoliberal and you need to kill yourself before we get to you.
>>748108306
uh yeah they are, and tried to murder many others using an ISIS tactic
>>748108114
They've gotten WORSE since 1968. 77% of black children are born out of wedlock, blacks commit crimes at significantly higher rates than other racial groups, your wages and wealth have been stagnant for 40 years.
You can blame alot of things, but systemic racism isn't one of them. That is, unless you believe that America has somehow become MORE racist since 1968.
>>748108312
>I don't understand what violence is
>>748104088
>lol, Okay I will pretend to be a racist fag and defend the fascists. I will do it because it is very difficult and I like challenges.
>clears throat.
:
Although not successful in the past, the idea of fascism still stands, like the idea of communism still stands: poorly implemented it causes more harm than good.
Jews represents the evilness of banks and their strength is within the Jewish community (no idea whether that is true or not) and thus must be dealt with somehow.
The fascist ideals are to support and protect the small people from an evil society that is slowly destroying our values. We also want to fight the 1% richest that oppress the low and middle classes.
Of course killing is bad, but we see no kinder ways of dealing with enemies that leave us so fewer choices. They multiply at an enormous rate because they themselves don't care about our sacred family values and don't take the adequate care of their own brethren as we do.
What we want to get rid of is the scourge of usurpers that use what our forefathers build and give nothing back.
>Did I do a good job? I tried to sound reasonable within the parameters, although I am aware that this is not their general way of speaking. I could go on and on with seemingly reasonable arguments that are probably flawed, but hard to dispute.
>>748104088
Antifa is like the autistic offspring of fascism and communism
>>748108350
your citation only proves white people are declining, not that there is any intentional action for that to happen. You didn't read it, so I get that you don't understand what you cited, but ffs try harder.
Also, how many babies have you made? Hell I've got one nice little white baby and plan to make more and I don't even give a fuck about race. I'm more useful to your cause and I don't even care about it!
>>748108355
wheres the other death(s)? so far they have murdered "a person", not "people"
>>748108358
so put em back in chains?
>>748108312
You mean besides the attempted ones? Because Antifa have attacked US Marines for having 'nazi haircuts'.
https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=antifa+attacks+marine&ei=UTF-8&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-004
>>748108219
I hesitate to call it murder. Block my car in and surround me with an angry mob wielding baseball bats. I doubt I would react any differently.
Someone needs to tell these idiots to stop playing in the streets.
>>748108392
muder=/=assault, just proving OPs point over and over and over again unironically like a fucking moron
>>748108009
>one white guy drives a car into a crowd
>his ideology is to blame, and anyone who doesn't after with me is 100% on his side
>you nazi
>multiple brown guys drive cars into crowds
>isolated incidents
>stop blaming muslims
>you nazi>>748108026
>>748108454
oh you're going to quibble over numbers? He killed one, tried to kill like 16 others.
I ask again, how many people have been killed by ANTIFA?
>>748108287
>for moral leaders
Only babbys need moral leaders. People who haven't been raised on le (((competition))) meme can actually understand people, put themselves in the shoes of others, and calculate morality for themselves. What's your problem, brainlet?
>media jews disqualified
Because they presume themselves above the rest of us. It's not as if they're not called "chosen" and "special" and all that other arrogant rot throughout the Judaism 1.0 and 2.0 scriptures?
>>748104088
there are no nazis in the united states
>>748108505
>putting people in the hospital is fine as long as they don't die
yeah ok
>I wanna kill millions of people that wanna kill millions of people..
The irony
>>748108482
none were even charged with attempted murder, nigga you better start trying harder than this
>>you shouldn't be a Nazi and be a American, we literally had a war over it
>>you shouldn't be a communist and be an American, we literally had a war over it
>>748108484
>hasn't watched the video
you're literally defending ISIS tactics, let that sink in
>>748108536
>tried to kill others
you mean like antifa has done?
>>748108518
>multiple citations required, but none are forthcoming
kysf
>>748104088
Meanwhile, in reality
>>748108471
>argument to absurdity
This country fought its bloodiest war to end slavery, don't be so ungrateful. I'm simply saying that blaming some white boogeyman on every ill in black society is absurd.
Their culture is a mess.
>>748108541
You assume they presume dumbass
>>748108547
I never said that, but murder ain't assault and therefore OP's point stands
>>748108608
CITE
EVEN
FUCKING
ONE
I'll wait
>>748108578
I like this post
>>748108634
Fug
>>748108645
so if you're grandfather were legally a second class citizen, while his grandfather would have been the son of a slave, you think you'd be 100% caught up to the rest of society by now? that's some amazing fucking optimism you got there
>>748108009
Maybe the shouldn't have attacked his car and made him fear for his life
*sigh*
>>748108450
>how many babies have you made
None, and it's going to fucking stay that way. Kill yourself, breeder. People like you should be exterminated because you keep shitting out parasites.
>implying my cause is whiteness, not just getting smarmy bourgeoisie into camps
Stop trolling anytime, you ignorant fuck. gb2pol and stay there.
>>748108649
Read the Bible you fucking jew
>>748107548
well, if you don't have an homogeneous group doing something politically relevant, their behaviour is likely to be skewed towards their own interests.
this realisation that in fact there are more Jewish persons in charge of media coverage should be relevant - as perhaps it should be relevant that all groups are reasonably represented in media - but that might be impossible or at least hard to achieve.
>>748108796
lol you assume that's why he did it, but maybe you should watch the video and explain why he kept going and going. maybe after watching it you won't defend ISIS tactics
>>748108705
It's a literal terrorist organization.
>>748108705
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2017/05/29/a-man-clobbered-trump-supporters-with-a-bike-lock-the-internet-went-looking-for-him/?utm_term=.353f3f48413b
you dont keep up with the news, do you?
>>748104979
>They fight against terrorists
No, they throw temper tantrums destroy public and personal property indiscriminately
>>748104088
How many years did our forefathers spend fighting communism?
>>748108825
lololol you're literally contributing to your own genocide!
>>748108450
>there isn't any intentional action making white percentage to decline
15 million hispanic illegal immigrants were allowed into the country. Of the one million LEGAL immigrants we let come into the country, only 8% come from white countries. We subsidize the births of poor minorities. The media constantly pushes a race-mixing agenda while telling whites to hold off on having babies.
It's as blatant as it can be without being explicitly stated.
>>748108815
truth
>>748104088
>controlling peoples right to speech and speak out against oppressors, usually with violence
leads to fascist totalitarian regimes more often than those willing to speak out about their oppressors without resorting to violence.
>>748108681
>killing one person and killing millions of people is the same thing
>any form of violence short of actually killing someone is just fine
thats some serious mental gymnastics
>>748107775
I always see this point, have you ever really thought about this though?
How many people do you suppose capitalism has killed?? Including deaths from malnutrition (no profit to be made from helping), Wars, famines, and genocides?
Got to be at least over a Billion. minimum.
>>748108825
I don't read imaginary bullshit. Jews think they're better than non-Jews, Christians think the same, Muslims think the same.
You're gonna need a better argument than that shit-for-brains
>>748108782
Jews were second class citizens for almost the entirety of history and they managed to not only catch up but surpass everyone else. Try again.
>>748108815
>the devolution of /b/ in one image
Obama decided to dismantle his ground-level organizers after they propelled him to victory. I get a strange sense that the same thing is happening now on the other side.
>>748108857
what's that, no evidence of ANTIFA murder? pathetic
>>748108893
>>748108578
anon pointed that out
>>748108588
I watched the video. Did you see the van parked in the middle of the street to block traffic? DId you see the driver's car get hit with a baseball bat immediately before he panicked and hit the gas?
Heather died because she got pinned BETWEEN cars, which means the mob was surrounding the stuck cars.
>>748108869
that's not murder...do you know what murder means?
>>748104088
an interesting point is: what they say they do and what they actually do doesn't seem to add up.
>>748109081
>tried to kill others
>do you know what murder means
im not sure you do
>>748108905
whites still outnumber mexicans by a wide margin. Only one of those two is breeding since white fags like you would rather play peek-n-poke with traps rather than breed
>>748109096
You dont understand what fascism means, do you?
>>748108782
Half of blacks in America came here after slavery ended.
You've had 60 years to catch up and you still can't even beat the hispanics who just got here 10 years ago.
>>748108965
get back in your cornfield mr strawman
>>748104979
Anyone who even says the word fascism and really means it is a total faggot. It's just a boogeyman for people with worthless degrees like art, psychology/sociology, or anything with "studies" on the end.
>>748108578
I agree? I would still consider myself as being against fascism. I still think that nazis are scumbags and people who want to carry out their ideology shouldn't be tolerated. Fuck antifa though, too many of them were people who just wanted to get physical and it fucked over all the rest of them that wanted to legally counter protest things they disagree with.
>>748109172
Birthrates are wholly irrelevant when you have a million shitskins coming into the country every year.
Hispanic birthrates are roughly equal to white birthrates, btw. There was a large difference in the early 2000s, but its leveled off since the recession.
>>748109055
but why did he keep going after he plowed into the crowd hmmm? Dude is going to ride the lightning
>>748105921
this
>>748108551
it is different. but the fact is that they are not only stopping fascist, but creating trouble such as looting and other things. The movement is at least disorganized
>>748109153
you're bad at this. I asked for evidence of murder, how hard is it for you to prove your claim?
>>748109096
kek
>>748109190
>citation required
>>748109306
>wholly irrelevant
whatever it takes for you to rationalize your impotence
>>748108966
> deaths from malnutrition (no profit to be made from helping)
show me a capitalist country that has had serious deaths from malnutrition
>war
if we're going to include war deaths, then communism toll is over 100 million. communism was responsible for tens of millions of non-combatant deaths
We're just going to end up going back to the Salem witch trials and every straight, white male will burn for being a "nazi"
>>748104979
North Korea is officially the Democratic People's Republic of Korea isn't it
it doesn't look very democratic to me
>>748109340
Did you see the video? There was a line of cars immediately in front of him. He didn't "keep going." He was driving at a normal speed, some idiot hit his car with a baseball bat, he panicked, hit the gas. After he hit the stuck cars in front of him, the mob started chasing him so he threw it into reverse.
The entire media narrative is hilarious. They acted as though this was some orchestrated group violence by the right. The left were the idiots who blocked traffic so their mob could surround and attack the cars that were leaving.
>>748109379
>tried to kill people
>evidence of murder
still mixed up on the definition of murder?
>>748109397
What citation would like you? This thread is moving fast.
>>748109589
I cried so hard for that coal burning blob.
>>748109521
if that's what it comes to then ill declare myself a Nazi and fight to the death
>>748109456
Considering hispanics are growing in numbers, even with a similar birthrate, it is irrelevant. We allow millions of illegal immigrants into the country and 70% of our legal immigrants are from hispanics countries.
The takeover by hispanics has nothing to do with birthrates. It's big business wanting to suppress wages for the working class, and Democrats wanting more voters.
>>748108782
The gooks that come here don't even speak English and their sons are already doctors. Don't try to pretend that it takes more than a generation to catch up with the rest of us.
>>748109183
actually you are the one who doesn't
>>748106447
>guys shouting "JEWS WILL NOT REPLACE US"
i mean, can you blame them?
also
>hahaha look at this pic of a fat guy dressed as a nazi, now i won't need a proper argument because i made my opponent look fat and ugly
>>748109206
>strawman
if thats not ops point, what was?
AND..... just like that, all the shitskins and commies are gone.
>>748108891
>>b-but how I see myself is physical reality and you have to believe in it
gotta love these fuckers, eh? If we don't, no one else will.
>>748108905
This is why competition is suicide.
>>748108962
>totalitarian
uh, dipshit, totalitarianism just means that all knowledge flows from a single source. Christian fundamentalism is totalitarian, for example.
>>748108973
>Jews think they're better than non-Jews
>Because they presume themselves above the rest of us
That's what I said.
>Christians think the same, Muslims think the same.
Exactly, all of Abrahamism is cancer.
>>748108975
>managed to not only catch up but surpass everyone else
>implying life is a competition
Kill yourself, neoliberal.
>>748109037
see
>>748108869
t.O.G. Readmore
>>748109765
>implying Democrats don't also want to suppress wages for the working class whenever the cameras aren't on them
>>748109037
guess you don't know what a terrorist is than
every time antifa tries to use violence against actually nazis they get blown the fuck out
every once in a while they'll gang up on some lone random, so, i guess they can be proud of that
>>748104088
>I want to stop that fascist legally expressing his opinion by using political violence to silence him and dissenting voices who are against me for using said violence against those who disagree with me.
Nigga, you are a fascists. I detest nazis, but I hate commies and antifa more.
>>748110210
I agree with you on Democrats suppressing wages. It keeps people dependent on gibs from the government. Its absolutely astonishing that people don't see the contradiction of democrats advocating for higher wages while they import millions of immigrants (legal and illegal) to undercut American workers.
The worst part is that their strongest base, blacks, are hurt the most by immigrants. It's the blacks that immigrants take the most jobs and housing from.
>>748107945
Underrated
>>748104088
The jews and redditors really shill the goyim good here.
>>748110210
>implying life isn't a competition
Limited resources and unlimited wants, you fucking commie.
What we need is a smaller government with less regulation placed upon restricting individual rights. Nazis were socialists, Russia were communists, and Antifa is just trash. I am not saying we get rid of all regulation, but I do think that a lot of things should be decriminalized and only very few laws aimed at social engineering (i.e. stricter punishments for crimes committed with a gun, preventing sex offenders from living or being near schools or designated areas). Maybe nationalize the internet again to protect the access to free speech on it under the first amendment instead of letting it be handle by foreign sovereigns such to secure the medium on the international level.
>>748110471
>It keeps people dependent on gibs from the government
It keeps them dependent, and in particular, dependent on the Democrat Party. Everyone should be getting gibs from the government, not just Wall Street and the ruling classes. This country can afford it.
>>748110844
>unlimited wants
>implying that isn't the product of a consumer society
Kill yourself, neoliberal. Real humans who still have their whole dicks know about this thing called "enough".
>>748110837
It's amusing to watch them come and go. There was just a dozen of them here posting about how great antifa is, then they just disappear.
>>748111100
>Nazis were socialists
>implying socialists support big business and expansionist war, rather than allowing the people to build and maintain a commons and decide how they wish to organize themselves
I don't know about that, anon.
Good on nationalizing the Internet. Clearly corporate sovereigns such as Comcast and AT&T have demonstrated they can't be trusted to not treat the internet as their personal printing presses for money and social control.
>>748111187
If I had the skillz of the old /b/ I'd track the Herzliyans down and expose them. Not a personal army request, but anyone got it in them to do this?
>>748111449
Oh? So you are gonna tell me that they wern't real socialists, right? It is not like socialist governments never end up being cluster fucks supported by people already in power that fuel an insatiable greed for more power and resources. Pffft, that would be ridiculous, ya?
>>748111113
>scarcity
>the product of a consumer society
>Real humans who still have their whole dicks know about this thing called "enough"
Hahahahahaha. You actually believe this don't you. This is why your retarded ideology fails. You don't understand basic human nature.
>>748104088
But then there is another group of people that are made to feel threatened and hopeless and they aren't fascists, they just don't want to die as a people, but they are labelled nazi and fascist by the people threatening to kill them, who then fund Antifa and tell them to attack said innocent people.
ANTIFA are faggots who want to be special by pretending they are fighting the evil nazis.
Nazis as the world knew them are gone, all they are fighting are people who want to see different choices being made regarding immigration.
They just want to be considered special.
>>748104088
Antifa is still worse.
>>748106839
How do you have a foreskin? Didn't your Jew masters cut it off???
>>748104088
Utter bullshit and bait OP
![1502769914035[1].jpg](/data/b/thumb/1505/888/1505888358446s.jpg "1502769914035[1].jpg")
>>748106447
Here's your (((you)), Rosenberg
Because conservative speakers trying to hold a Q&A are most certainly trying to wipe out an entire race of people.
i.e Milo's visit to UC Berkley
Fuck AntiFa. Even its name is a contradiction.
>>748111753
There's a fundamental difference between Marxist socialism and nationalism socialism. Anyone with power wants more power, its the people's responsibility to keep that power in check.
Ultimately, alot of the Naziboo support comes from people who don't want to see their cities and states ruined by millions of non-Europeans, as well, those who yearn for a time when our government pushed us towards big goals. Everything now is election to election. There's no moon shot or Great Society or Hoover Dam.
>>748104088
>implying that Antifa doesn't want to kill White, European Straight people when they aren't communist or rabid SJWs.
Antifa leave
>>748108518
are you retarded? You blame radical muslims a.k.a. islamists as much as you blame nazis. Not every muslim is an islamist...
>>748112204
Yeah, and not every white person who doesn't want to be genocided agrees with the guy who drove a car into a crowd, but 73% of muslims want to throw gays off roofs and stone rape victims and behead those who insult islam.
>>748111778
Scarcity? What scarcity? We have the means to feed, clothe, and shelter everyone. We simply choose not to, because the capitalist system REQUIRES scarcity in order to operate and legitimize itself.
>basic human nature.
All conservatives project themselves and their beliefs onto others, as if others owed them anything but a swift kick in the nuts and a punch in the face for their arrogance. Basic conservative nature.
Stop larping anytime, jew.
>>748104088
>>748112383
The capitalist system's "requirement" for scarcity is a reflection of human nature. Everyone always wants a little bit more.
If you lived in a hut in the woods according to 19th century standards, there would be no scarcity at all in your life. Hell, such a lifestyle would only require a few thousand dollars a year.
Nobody settles for this lifestyle for the same reason welfare recipients have new cell phones - we all want more.
For any system other than capitalism to work, people will have to get used to the idea of living with less. It'll never happen because thats not how humans operate.
>The "nazis" Antifa so call fight against are nothing like actual Nazis
>Antifa would have been rekt by actual Nazis
>There were antifa like people in Germany who fought against hitlers side
And you know what happend. Several months or so of brutal voilence. And the people sided with Hitlers side not because he was legit better. But because
A: They were tired of the voilence
B: Hitlers side was pro Germany
If Antifa and "non antifa" (let's say alt right fags) got into a clash. Let's say hundreds die. And the public has to pick one. And let's say there is no third option. Which do you think a majority of people will vote for?
The commie anti american. Anti white. Anti western cucks who think Communism is ever good
Or
The so called racist meme fags who like western culture and america and want to protect our country
Antifa. You fail. Youre just another side of retards. Nazis and commies both suck. But at least most right wing fags aren't fucking saying Nazism is good and acting like it needs to be tried for the 6th fucking time and 100million bodies later
>>748112334
tell me about this white genocide. How come you feel like white people are about to be genocided?
>>748112383
Then why do you have a computer, commie? Surely you would be fine with having just food, clothes and shelter, and would never want anything more.
>>748112791
>Which do you think a majority of people will vote for?
over simplyfied: if every Hillary voter would vote antifa and every Trump voter would would alt right, antifa wins.
>>748112824
Because the politicians who are supposed to represent our interests are instead filling our countries with millions of non-whites every year.
Of the million legal immigrants who come into the US every year, only 8% are white. This number is even less when you factor in the illegal immigrants.
The "refugee" crisis sparked similar concerns in Europe, where the vast majority of "refugees" are sub-Saharan Africans who have no connection to the war in Syria at all.
>>748112824
You mean when democrats open borders and say to anti western Muslims to just cross Anyborder and then hide rape statistics and crime numbers.
Maybe Germany just needed to let Africans move into Jewish towns and say "aye Jews let these darkies in".
Hitler really was dumb. He just needed to do the cuck version of genocide
>but nobody is being killed
except Christians in a number of countries. Massive rape. No go zones. France becoming a shithole. Germany declining. Sweden projected to be third world soon
>>748112791
also: why are you equating antifa with commies? not every antifascist is automatically a communist, bro...
>>748112383
>Scarcity? What scarcity? We have the means to feed, clothe, and shelter everyone.
No, we don't have unlimited resources. In case you haven't noticed we have most of our resources brought in from other countries because we can't grow enough local crops to feed and clothe ourselves anymore.
>>748113091
You can have California, it's full of spics anyway. Take the four shitskin boroughs of NYC too.
>>748104088
our soldiers were fighting people who threatened our way of life and our freedoms.
antifa attacks anyone that disagrees with them for any reason, if you're not with them you're against them and that makes them anti free speech.
>>748112824
>We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children.
OFFENSIVE
>We must secure the existence of our people and a future for black children.
Totally fine.
>We must secure the existence of our people and a future for hispanic children.
Not a problem.
>We must secure the existence of our people and a future for Asian children.
Should be okay.
>We must secure the existence of our people and a future for Muslim children.
Of course!
>We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children.
WHITE SUPREMACIST NAZI PIECE OF SHIT
White genocide is ongoing, and we're losing.
>>748113101
Of course it's difficult to introduce new people into a society (independent of their skin colour) but heck man, I thought this was one of the great ideals of the USA: giving everyone the same chance to live their lives and become something. Now you want to take that away from other just because they are not white. But what do you even need a mostly white society for?
>>748113570
DELET THIS
>>748113717
>We have a right to exist
NO YOU DON'T YOU NAZI PIECE OF SHIT
YOUR EXISTENCE IS A CALL TO ACTION
YOUR EXISTENCE IS TERRORISM
YOUR EXISTENCE IS GENOCIDE FOR BROWN PEOPLE
>>748109473
I'm sorry but you are either delusional or ignorant to history.
Capitalism has led to thousands of different conflicts over the past 500 years. Lets consider some of Imperialisms highlights. (Imperialism being the ruling class of a nation exerting force upon another nation to gain control of markets, natural resources and labour markets for profit.
Native American Genocide - 30,000,000+?? who knows right.
African Slave Trade - 100,000,000 (probably more, how many millions died working sugar and tobacco plantations?
British Imperialism - 71,500,000 - conservative estimate, famine in india alone totals over 50 million . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_major_famines_in_India_during_British_rule
More recently the two world wars - 80,000,000
Vietnam War – including bombing Cambodia & Laos 10,000,000
Korean War - 10,000,000
Iraq - 3.5 million + including those dead from sanctions.
these are just a few. Consider also the 30 years war - 5,000,000 at least, Another 5 mil for the Napoleonic wars, god knows how many Chinese have been killed by the fucking japs.
Bottom line is capitalism makes a shit and chaotic world for everyone else but the very rich. Not to mention its inherently flawed. Through monetisation of the environment it creates the conditions for its own ecological destruction, also infinite growth... on a finite planet, how does that work?
>>748113672
>But what do you even need a mostly white society for?
Look at white societies and nonwhite societies and tell us which one is a better place to live in.
The problem with giving them a chance is we don't send them back after they fuck it up, so they set up ghettos and fester and pollute the surrounding areas. Look at the sharia no go zones in Europe for a more recent example.
>>748113672
This narrative is a false one. Since it's beginning, Americans have sought to ensure a white country. This is why the first citizenship laws required applications to be a free white man in good standing. Until 1950, we refused entry to muslims. For 100 years we banned Asians.
Most of this country's de facto immigration rules revolved around keeping this country for Europeans. This is why from 1700 to 1970, we were 90% white. The remaining 10% being mostly freed slaves. The big change came in 1965 when we did away with country of origin quotas and started allowing chain immigration.
>what do you need a white society for
The same reason hispanics, whites, blacks, etc all live in neighborhoods based on their race. This isn't as prominent anymore as government has forced neighborhoods to integrate. We can still see this stratification based on race in the churches people choose to attend, which is one of the few areas where the government isn't forcing integration.
>>748104088
Well that would be true if you hadn't just presented a strawman.
>>748104088
Antifa are not fascists because they want to oppose Nazism with violence, they are fascist because everyone that is not 100% with them is a conflated with Nazis and thus must be eliminated.
If you don't understand the nuance maybe stop talking about things that goes above your head.
>>748114037
There is death in every form of government. Pretending that capitalism is the cause of war and conquest is laughable. These have been human themes since we were in tribes fighting each other.
What capitalism has done is pull billions of people out of poverty, and create an environment where the planet can support 20x as many people as it could during feudalism.
>>748113570
Never heard the 14 words with any other colour than "white", though. Maybe you confuse this with stuff like the Black Lives Matter movement which was a reaction to white racism. I think it's very important for minorities to stand up against this kind of intolerance.
Same for the whites! If let's say a group of white minorites were racistly harassed in some city in africa they have every right to protest against it - they even have to do it! But why should you need to do that in the US?
ww2 soldiers with the help of most of Europe, Australia etc worked together to fight nazis and other actual fascists.
antifa are a bunch of punks that attack anyone and everyone that doesn't agree with them 100%, they destroy public property that belongs to regular citizens and all because they didn't get their equally shitty candidate into the white house.
remember, if you're against the white supremacists you're a zionist jew
if you're against antifa you're a nazi, which means i am a zionist nazi jew
this is what happens when retards buy into the hyper divisive politics that our government uses to distract us
>>748104088
>>748114037
>>748114323
>Never heard the 14 words with any other colour than "white"
The meaning of the words aren't white supremacist.
>>748114323
>Black Lives Matter movement which was a reaction to white racism
actually it was a reaction to a black thief assaulting a cop in his car, trying to take his gun, and getting shot
>>748114323
>those damn europeans should have just stayed out of africa
>asia
>the middle east
>the americas
The words are different, but the meaning is the same.
>>748114323
Because we're quickly being made into a minority in a country that our ancestors built for us. Since 1965, we've gone from 92% of the population to our current 56% (probably closer to 52%, since Arabs and North Africans are considered "white").
Using your example, it would be like millions of Europeans flooding into an African country and being on the verge of making the Africans a minority in their own country. I'm not sure Africans would stand for such a thing either.
As for the 14 words, its a bit ridiculous. The media freaks out over any display of pride in being white or having a European heritage. Though black and hispanic pride are allowed completely.
>>748110057
>Hahahahahahaha i just did the same HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA
IM FUCKING RETARDED HERR DERRR
yes you can blame them its there own fucking fault they cant see that the upper 1% fucks them in the ass
>>748114444
>remember, if you're against the white supremacists you're a zionist jew
Literally no one is saying that
>>748114512
>>748113812
http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/toronto-police-investigating-racist-anti-immigrant-posters-1.3160086
>>748113570
perhaps because when you do it you kinda end up mass executing a lot of people time and time again
>>748114961
except, you know, white supremacists and nazis
>>748112706
>The capitalist system's "requirement" for scarcity is a reflection of human nature.
Economics is just a moral theology with equations.
>Everyone always wants a little bit more.
I don't. I can be sated. I know when to stop eating. I know when to stop consuming. You are simply broken and you are making unprovable assertions about an entire class of beings in order to excuse your personal defects and lack of discipline.
>>748112706
>Nobody settles for this lifestyle for the same reason welfare recipients have new cell phones - we all want more
Nice try at reduction to absurdity. Nobody settles for this lifestyle because we can have more.
>welfare recipients have new cell phones
That's due to the competitive society and consumption culture that you deliberately created, upon which you depend for your elevated position, and for which you are shilling at this very moment. Those who are systematically deprived of and repeatedly shown images of opulence, as the jew media does, are going to want those things. I don't consume jew media, so I don't seem to have this problem of needing moar.
>people will have to get used to the idea of living with less
Exactly, especially the jews at the top who think we exist to serve them. An EMP over the USA would be the best thing that could happen to us.
>It'll never happen because thats not how humans operate.
They have in the past, many times. The difference is that there weren't usurious empires and private propagandists pushing demand.
You lack historical perspective. You're just as bad as the sjews who believe that history began in 1970.
>>748112998
Yet the USSR had more than this, without depriving its citizens of those basic human needs. What's your problem, weeajew? Can't distinguish between needs and wants? That's a very bourgeois problem to have, and definitely not mine.
>muh computers will vanish if we end capitalism
Shut the fuck up, jew.
>>748112998
you know their is a difference between private property and personal property right?
or are you just that deluded
>>748113280
>No, we don't have unlimited resources
That's not what I said, jew. I said we have ENOUGH to feed, clothe, and shelter everyone who is here now, if we weren't spending so much human effort blowing up shit in the middle east because muh israel.
>In case you haven't noticed we have most of our resources brought in from other countries because we can't grow enough local crops to feed and clothe ourselves anymore
Yet the USA is the world's #3 wheat exporter and the #1 maize exporter. We bring food in because Madison Avenue has made us too whiny and entitled to just deal with some foods being out of season for some part of the year. It's an indoctrinated entitlement and can be un-indoctrinated just as easily.
Get some historical perspective, for fuck's sake.
>>748115438
They're paid not to know.
>>748115096
Well, I don't listen to them, so you might have heard some obscure podcast, but the term "cultural Marxist" is the most common label used by the alt-right.
>>748115508
> that pic
Hmm, so basically, the difference between property and possession is the same as the difference between earning something and stealing it.
>>748112706
>The capitalist system's "requirement" for scarcity is a reflection of human nature.
No, it's a reflection of the situation during which it was created. aka over populated Europe. For the last 30 years or so capitalism has had to create artificial scarcity to survive.
>>748115182
>nobody settles for this lifestyle because we can have more
Which is my point. So long as there is more, people will want it. The only time we've ever seen people accept less is when they have no choice but to accept it.
You can point to meaningless consumption like potato chips and Nike sneakers, but the real benefit to capitalism is the billions of third world people its lifted out of poverty in the last 40 years alone.
>I can be sated
If you only basic human needs could satiate you, then we wouldn't be having this conversation on a computer.
>>748112791
>Which do you think a majority of people will vote for?
The one with the strongest race baiting.
>>748115518
yeah you're right, it's my fault you like burying your head in the sand
>>748115663
>overpopulated Europe
Europe has a stagnate population. African population is set to explode, Asia's population has doubled in the last 30 years.
It's puzzling how you think "overpopulation" can create "artificial" scarcity. If there were too many people wouldn't there be legitimate scarcity?
>>748115645
how many times in your life time are you going to own a large plot of land that are dotted across different regions of earth.
even if you claim that your own house is private property, you can still get kicked out if the government says you have to.
>>748115438
What does that have to do with anything?
>>748115977
Computer is personal property
>>748115742
What do you do? Join the KKK so you know what they're calling you?
>>748115438
>>748115508
normal people (non-commies) don't draw this distinction between different types of property because we see no problem with someone owning something even though they don't personally use it. Ownership isn't contingent upon use in the way that these definitions try to claim.
you can autistically screech about how there is some silly made up difference between private property and personal property until you're blue in the face, but there isn't because most people simply disagree
>>748116141
nice straw man
>>748116068
And? The commie is trying to argue that there would be no "want" if we gave everyone food clothing and shelter. This is clearly false. If his computer disappeared, he would want another one.
What does personal/private property have to do with any of that?
>>748108634
>>748104088
You forgot the next part where Mr. Antifa justifies violence against guy on the right because anyone who disagrees with him is a nazi
>>748115508
What is going on in this picture? The difference between possessions and private property is that the "state" defends private property? Doesn't the state defend possessions too? If you stole my toothbrush, I can go to the police.
In a legal sense, your picture is even more puzzling. Land and homes are considered REAL property, not private property. The only exception being mobile homes without permanent foundations.
Fuck, you stupid commies can't even understand the system you pretend to criticize. You really are just a bunch of cunts who are whining about being life's losers.
>>748115182
>Yet the USSR had more than this, without depriving its citizens of those basic human needs.
Why did they do that commie? I thought food, shelter and clothing was the cutoff for your "enough" Why give the people more than they wanted?
>>748116271
You really do though
there is countless examples of things being held by someone and people getting mad
>>748116068
>>748115508
You deluded idiots have no idea what you're talking about. There is no difference between personal and private property. There's a difference between real property, private property, and capital. Maybe you dumbasses mean capital when you say private property. That just makes it worse though. How the hell can you criticize capitalism when you don't even understand the definition of CAPITAL?!
>>748116372
first of all his stuff wouldn't be "gone" as many items made in the soviet union lasted for a long time.
little pup-up is oblivious, he's just happy to be outside with his best friend.
>>748104088
Except "that guy" doesn't have any power on this time and age, so all that unnecesary voilence is doing anything but "stopping him".
They are literally wasting their time and resources, and pestering everyone else on fighting an invisible adversary.
>>748116936
You're avoiding the question.
>>748104088
>Remember what happened 70 years ago?
I'm assuming you're referring to Stalin basically committing genocide against the kulaks and Ukrainians
>>748116813
only if they acquired it illegally, or are using it illegally.
trying to create two definitions of property based on communist ideals is silly, because the vast majority of people see no reason to distinguish between property that you personally use and property that you don't. If you acquire it legally it's your property, that's how most people see it, no matter how many lame infographics commies make about their dumb made up definitions
>>748114037
>imperialism is unique to capitalism and is a product of it
you're the delusional one if you think war over territory and resources is the fault of capitalism and capitalism alone
>>748115508
You can tell mental gymnastics went on here by the amount of jargon it requires to hold itself up.
>>748117469
not really theyre many ways of acquiring something legally and people still hating them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2S9b40ITNM
>>748118022
oh, well, a few jealous butthurt neighbours isn't really the same thing as radically changing the legal definition of ownership
also that guy is awesome, fuckin clever nigger
>>748115508
>uses "Private property - No trespassng" sign illustrate private property
>cites 'places' as an example of 'posession'
dude what
>>748118022
They don't hate him for getting the house for free. They hate him because they know he's too poor to keep the house in working order, which will lower their property values.
>>748118281
Land isn't even private property, it's real property, hence "real estate." Things like this always make it clear that communists don't actually care about economics, they are just upset that not everyone is as poor as them.
>>748118281
It's just commies trying to rationalize workers taking the factories away from their owners.
>you paid for it
>b-b-but i use it so its really mine
>>748118553
and houses from their landlords, they want those too
and maybe a car too, if they're leasing one of those
man, i've gotta remember to rent a whole bunch of shit the day before the revolution
>>748115689
>Which is my point. So long as there is more, people will want it. The only time we've ever seen people accept less is when they have no choice but to accept it.
They can want all they like. They can also have the crap beaten out of them when they try to act on it. Stop projecting your immature, culturally driven incapacity to distinguish between wants and needs onto others.
>billions of third world people its lifted out of poverty in the last 40 years alone.
At my expense, by your bourgeois standards, n neither of which I am bound to accept.
>lifted
Evangelists need to be killed on sight. You have done them no favors.
>If you only basic human needs could satiate you, then we wouldn't be having this conversation on a computer.
Because, of course, it is absoutely a fucking tragedy that your indispensable self can't be taking the jew end of this conversation that wouldn't even be needing to be had if we were satisfied simply by basic needs.
SO.
FUCKING.
WHAT.
>>748116271
>normal people (non-commies)
You think I'm sixteen or something and care about your babby-tier tactics of transpersonal exclusion? Fuck you and your norms, jew. I hope they both die in a nuclear holocaust so that the rest of us can be left the fuck alone.
You are a broken fucking human being, and your norms are broken too.
>>748116622
>Doesn't the state defend possessions too?
The state doesn't need to defend possessions because there is no dispossession to defend against. It defends against possessions as an insult to the person possessing them, not as some abstract right to exclude.
>In a legal sense, your picture is even more puzzling
>Land and homes are considered REAL property, not private property
Obviously, because the legal system supports capitalism and the physical environment has been built with that structure of exclusion in mind. Thta's begging the question.
>>748119078
>You think I'm sixteen or something
pretty much
>>748119078
>SO.
>FUCKING.
>WHAT.
So your notion that scarcity is a spook created by capitalists is laughable.
>>748116934
>There is no difference between personal and private property
Say it louder and kill some people, and maybe they'll start to believe this. You can't prove it without citing some capitalist jew.
>Maybe you dumbasses mean capital when you say private property
What is your term for publicly owned capital, then? If you say "theft" I will only say "kill yourself, neoliberal."
>>748117775
>I cannot think in any terms other than those prescribed by my culture
>Any word larger than three syllables is reals and I can only think in feels
>I am intentionally stupid
>>748118553
>owners
Exclusive ownership is a meme that we can choose to recognize or not. It is literally not my fault that you are still two years old and have been literally prevented by society from developing beyond that.
>>748119266
You need to think so in order for your bourgeois system to make sense and you would kill yourself if it didn't.
Whatever keeps you from hitting the laundry sauce, bourg-o.
>>748119347
There are plenty of other things I could be doing right now in an alternate universe. That I happen to be doing this is ridiculously insignificant.
>>748119078
>>748119266
to expand on this, since you seem to take issue with my appeal to majority, the reason I bother to point out that most people don't subscribe to the definitions of "personal property" and "private property" isn't because I think that what the most people believe is always necessarily true, but rather a reaction to the way commies always present these definitions. Commies always act incredulous as if they are dealing with someone that is ignorant and uneducated when they come across someone that doesn't know their weird made-up definitions. Most people don't know those definitions because we have no use for them, they are stupid.
>>748119006
>>748118553
not really its just creating a more comfortable life for everyone.
i havent been to the doctor for over 5 years because its really expensive for me
>>748119974
>Most people don't know those definitions because we have no use for them, they are stupid.
thats not an argument. The only way a democracy could work is for people to stay informed.
has 10th grade history taught you nothing
>>748119078
>>748119691
>all this angst
Jesus, go jerk off.
The global mean for income is $5,000 a year. Communism is unquestionably less effective at production, which means income would fall under communism. Let's just call it an even $3,000 a year per person.
Until you're willing to live on $3,000 a year to help achieve your Utopian "dream", go kick rocks.
Humans are never satisfied. This is why we have achieved so much. This is why we have power struggles. This is why we have war. Beavers are happy with a dam to call their own, humans will never be beavers.
>the state doesn't need to defend possessions
But it does. If a burglar comes into your home, you would be allowed to call in the state to investigate, correct? Your distinction between private property and "possessions" is laughable.
>>748119996
that's a different issue than trying to redefine the entire concept of property
>>748119691
More like
>my ideology is so ass backwards I have to butcher the language to justify it
I'm pretty sure Orwell called this newspeak.
>>748104088
>>748120149
it's not a matter of being informed
>>748119996
Even without insurance, a visit to the doctor only cost $100. Why don't you focus on bettering yourself so you can make more money instead of trying to topple the economic system that enables your very existance?
>>748120194
you know these things are not separate they all affect each other they call it a system for a reason
>>748115959
> how many times in your life time are you going to own a large plot of land that are dotted across different regions of earth.
I'm white, so... yes.
> even if you claim that your own house is private property, you can still get kicked out if the government says you have to.
Nope. Still white, so they won't do that.
>>748120306
>>748120407
>white
that has nothing to do with it
>>748104088
Or are you really just that retarded
>>748120386
they are separate
there are plenty of countries that have universal healthcare without redefining the concept of property
>>748120407
dude antifa, blm and the general sjw movement is full of shit, white people don't get special treatment from the government
>>748119691
>Exclusive ownership is a meme
Save it for Jamal as he fucks your wife.
>>748120386
Your existance is already elitist. If you want to redistribute the world's wealth, you're only entitled to live off of $5,000 a year. Not going to the doctor because you'd rather spend money on a computer and internet access is a very elitist problem in the grand scheme of things.
>>748120806
>>748120948
>i want to redistribute the wealth of the rich
>but not the poor, they can fuck off
You people are actually thieves.
>>748119974
Are you literally implying that all definitions aren't made up at some point?
>Most people don't know those definitions because we have no use for them
This, because you are living in a capitalist environment. There is no excuse for not being willing to countenance different ways of thinking about the world. The unexamined life is not worth living, said a philosopher who was a million times the man your sad little weeb ass is.
>they are stupid.
Not this. In fact, they are expressive and expose deeper truths about the nature of property that embarrass you.
>>748120180
>muh vidya scores
The USA is a high cost-of-living nation. I didn't know that everything cost exactly the same in every place in the world, and that the production mix under capitalism is exactly equal to the natural rate of consumption. You're stacking fallacy on fallacy and making yourself look just desperate and ridiculous.
>live on $3000 a year
But what does that money buy? You can't say because you need to go back to >>>/v/
>Humans are never satisfied
You have no historical perspective from which to claim that this is a universal trait of humanity, rather than just a component of your Judeo-Roman culture.
>This is why we have achieved so much
So? We can kill you now and keep what you have wrought. Your parasitic greed is maladaptive today.
>But it does. If a burglar comes into your home, you would be allowed to call in the state to investigate, correct?
I said NEED to, nigger. I can snap the burglar's neck for invading the space I possess. Private property literally cannot be defended, let alone even defined, without an extensive legal regime.
Private property, the ability to claim excusionary ownership even in the absence of possession, ONLY exists through state support. Can you rebut that?
>>748120287
>capitalists define language as their divine right
cuck
>>748120703
>monogamy isn't a meme
Kek. Women are more than onaholes, dipshit.
>>748121142
okay please leave this thread
>>748121142
Your greentext is literally what capitalists do among themselves.
You people are actually jews.
>>748121142
The funny thing is that the "poor" in the developed world don't realize just how rich they really are. Much like the "rich", they are so obsessed with maintaining their high standard of living that they don't realize how good they have it.
