Lets put to rest Trump v. Hillary. Political differences aside, would Bernie have made a better president than them both?
I would hate most of his policy, but he would likely be a better president than both of them put together
>>745974640
He's a socialist. So, no. Anyone that thinks otherwise is a cuck that needs to McFucking kill themselves.
Politics aside, of the 3 he's the least piece of shit, so yes.
>>745974640
Absolutely, are you kidding? The clown we have now is just failure on top of embarrassment 140 characters at a time, and Grandma Nixon would've started World War III to keep her military-industrial donors happy while furthering all the SJW bigotry about straight white men being literally Hitler.
>>745974755
This
You kids know fuck all about history, philosophy, religion, politics, economics, psychology, so on and so forth. People seriously supporting a commie jew in America is beyond insulting; it speaks volumes to how jews have destroyed the average person and robbed them of knowledge and wisdom. Shit's terrifying.
>>745974755
And do you have any idea what that word means?
a stick would do a better job than what we have in office now.
Pls tell me why tards have issues with socialism like come on look at the Scandinavian countries and how happy and successful they are!
>>745974640
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRleL81Ufhs
>>745974755
If you think socialists are cucks then you have shit backwards.
>>745974640
>>745974640
Fuck. No.
You dumb nigger.
He pandered to the WORST voter base to pander to, fucking stupid liberals in their 20's. Then got dicked down by Killary...I mean Hillary.
He made people believe he could HONESTLY give everyone free education and free healthcare.
The literal definition of socialism. Thank fuck that shit didn't happen.
>>745975320
>>745975320
You need to open up a history book you daft fuck.
>>745975125
Which one, socialist, or cuck? Either way, no I don't think he knows.
Pls tell me why tards have issues with socialism like come on look at the Scandinavian countries and how happy and successful they are!!!!
>>745974640
He is a socialist. Don't know what socialism is? look at how shitty Venezuela is doing,all thanks to socialism.
Pls tell me why tards have issues with socialism like come on look at the Scandinavian countries and how happy and successful they are!!!
>>745975341
God forbid we use our tax dollars to actually improve American lives instead of bombing Arabs.
>>745975403
I was hoping for 'socialist,' but prepared for pretty much the whole sentence. Which is no small feat; have you ever tried to define 'to'?
Sorry didn't mean to post that 4 times
>>745975401
He might have a socialist/communist version of the history book so don't bother.
>>745975476
>>745975476
First of all faggot, let's go through how much this shit would be.
In order to enact Bernie's plan (for JUST healthcare by the way) it would cost $9,000 per person, in the United States, PER YEAR.
Now, go ahead and tell me how that would work.
I'm waiting bud.
>>745974640
Nope hes a commie faggot
Bernie and his supporters got screwed hard by Clinton.
1. She cheats him out of the DNC nomination by rigging the primaries.
2. All of the money he raised goes to Clinton, as per the DNC rules. Some of that money was donated by people who hated Clinton.
3. He's forced to aggressively campaign on her behalf, traveling to dozens of different states.
4. He's forced to contradict everything negative he said about her and kiss her ass in public.
5. He's forced to sit beside her on stage like an obedient dog.
6. When it's all over and done with she writes a book blaming him for her loss.
Un-fucking-believable.
>>745975604
Cut the military budget in half.
>>745974640
>Would a communist have been a better president than a nationalist or a cunt?
FTFY and...
No.
>>745974640
Unless there was an accompanying massive swing in congressional and senate votes to the dems he would get precisely nothing done.
>>745975653
>>745975653
You dumb motherfucker.
His "plan" costs $1.38 trillion per year.
PER YEAR.
Our defense budget is less than half of that.
>>745975110
but you dont know either
>>745975110
oh shut the fuck up nigger
get back to sucking dick at your cash register, and fantasizing about guns at walmart.
>>745975647
Truth, and in the end, this shows that Bernie is a cuck that if he were to be president, he would still be licking the boots of the Clinton foundation.
>>745975775
What's your source for that number?
>>745975775
and fairies are real i said so, therefore its true
>>745975314
>Successful
They also have high tax rates.Not to mention that they are also in the path of going bankrupt
>>745975647
>>745975647
It gives me great pleasure to know that she's now doing book tours inside of Cosco's across America.
Fucking. Cosco.
It's the saddest shit I've ever seen. She's pathetic and couldn't even stand up to the EASIEST of fucking tasks. This bitch spent like 1-3 billion and STILL FUCKING LOST.
What a dumbass. She also made the mistake of flat out, not campaigning in states that were "sure winners."
This stupid bitch deserves every last bit of shit thrown her way and OH she can't take responsibility for anything.
She has blamed no less than 50 groups, organizations and people for her not winning.
>>745975905
>going bankrupt
>been said by amerifats for 50 years
Any time now right?
>>745975447
Exactly. On average, the people of Venezuela have lost 17lbs in a year because of how good socialism is. Families are literally taking to the cover of night to hunt for stray dogs and cats to feed their families... but yay socialism!
>>745976041
>Losing weight
>Caring for families
Socialism is dream come true
>>745975850
>>745975850
>what's your source
Bitch, are you retarded?
https://berniesanders.com/issues/medicare-for-all/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Armed_Forces
>>745975874
>>745975874
Look up dipshit.
>>745974755
And Trump is a retard. Anyone thaat thinks otherwise is a fuckhead that needs to uncuck themselves.
>>745974640
yes, unequivocally
>>745976193
>>745976193
>DAE THINK THAT TRUMP IS DUMB
>HEHEHEHEH
Kill yourself.
>>745976152
Sssshhh, socialist don't like to do math, don't stress out too much about it.
>>745974755
Moron detected
>>745974640
>sane
So, already yes.
Not a yank btw, so I don't really care, but wtf were you morons thinking with trump? I mean, I get the hitlery hate, she's an evil cunt, I completely agree, but this childish idiot? Really yanks? I honestly thought bush jr would be the biggest embarrassment, jesus...
Explain one problem with spreading the wealth!
Execute the political right.
I think Bernie would have been a better """"president""" but anything he called policy was largely irrelevant.
Venezuelan equivalencies are false.
>>745976360
>>745976360
Really nigger, do you not understand American media?
They wanted Hillary to win. She was the perfect shill. Almost all major media companies are owned by HUGE media conglomerates who use their companies to shill their bullshit to the masses.
Trump is perfect because he can't be bought out. He can't be persuaded and he just doesn't give a fuck.
He says whatever the fuck he wants because no one will stop him and it's fucking great.
>>745975604
>it would cost $9,000 per person
You pay 9k a year for health care? Damn, you got beatus or something?
>>745976040
Do you not know how the economy works? They have high taxes as I stated before which will only do so much.
>>745975905
And the Scandinavian countries consist of some of the most homogenized people. Part of their happiness comes from the fact that that they all look a like, compared to in America where we all don't look a like yet a part of our happiness comes from being different from one another as individuals, yet having fraternal affection for one another
>>745976131
People were posting from there recently, they said the zoo animals were eaten and people were starving.
>>745974640
>Jew
>President
>>745976488
>>745976488
No no no silly faggot.
Under big B's plan, it would cost that much PER PERSON.
Not even exaggerating. It's pretty funny though, when he was younger he completely denounced any sort of socialized health care or a "health care for all" and when he was running for president, he did a 180 on it.
Acting like it's even remotely feasible.
"Trump can't be bought out" I have one word for you... Russia
>>745976193
Smart enough to win the presidency.
>>745976633
you sure told us Alex Jones
>>745974640
Fuck no, none of them are worth a wet shit. That's what you stupid fucks don't seem to understand.
>>745975125
if you're in favor of socialism i dont think you understand what it really means bud
>>745974640
Just because he looks like a nice old man don't be fooled. He is a communist if he had his way there would be no free speech and reduction camp's for you /b/
>>745976193
he won when it was pretty much rigged for Shillary to win. Stay mad, 7 years left.
>>745975604
regulating drug prices would bring that number down to less than $3000. There's no reason why our drugs can't be priced similarly to drugs in canada. Drug companies are running a racket.
>>745974640
Bernie sponsored no legislation his entire time in office before his run for president . Not exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer.
>>745976726
What do you think it means?
>>745975320
carl marx was a failure and a bum. never held a job in his life didnt pay rent to the working class men he acted like he cared so much about talk about exploiting the working class
>>745976668
>Rich enough to win the presidency.
Fixed that for ya
>>745976673
Bernie, this fence sitter did his job. He sucked in the bronies and told them he would never roll over and play with the establishment. But when push came to shove, what did he do?
>>745976396
It's not yours to spread.
>>745976487
>he just doesn't give a fuck.
>He says whatever the fuck he wants
He also doesn't know a fucking thing about anything. What use is having someone who 'says whatever the fuck he wants' if everything he says is the ramblings of a moron? At least Bush had smart people around him who told him wtf to say. All trump does is throw childish fits about having yuge crowds and being 'the best' at things. It's literal insanity.
>>745976535
it's hard for us to go bankrupt when the federal reserve just keeps on printin' that money. Inside tip, the more you print a currency the less value it inherently holds. The false propping created under "quantitative easing" will only hold the dam for so long.
>>745976726
socialism can mean a lot of things.
>>745974640
Yes, but the corruption in both parties would band together to undermine him at every turn and the media would portray him as a doddering crazy old man and America would buy it because Honey Boo Boo and the Kardashians.
>>745976568
And your point is? Also don't forget that Sweden is the rape capital of the world.
>>745975314
Those countries aren't anywhere nearly as socialist as you think. It’s easy to provide health care when your population is 95% homogeneous, your economy is more free market than the US, and you don't let poorfags or niggers move in.
>>745976962
No. No it's not. Not even close.
>>745976962
>Sweden is the rape capital of the world
IF this is true it's because in sweden rape doesn't mean what it does to most of the rest of the world. Remember Assange.
>>745976765
>>745976765
>sources needed on that bullshit statement
>>745976885
>>745976885
Nigger are you fucking retarded.
He was a billionaire. This dude literally had NO fucking motive for being president outside of just doing it.
He lost millions, he got shit on by everyone & he still fucking won.
Dude if I was in his position, I'd be doing the same shit.
Let the media be little bitches and grovel over how Obama was "such a good president."
>>745976822
>World famous while never whoring himself out for wage-slavery.
What part of this are you thinking is fail?
>>745976152
I mean shit, did you even read your own link?
'' hurr durr it's gonna cost 1.7 trillion dollars , which is way too much money ''
> ''The United States currently spends $3 trillion on health care each year''
>>745975314
Everyone loves to point to these countries, but ignore that we basically subsidize their defense. If not for the US the EU would be speaking russian by now. They spend almost nothing on their military.
>>745977021
what do healthcare costs have to do with homogamy?
>>745976899
>>745976899
>public schools
>public water system
>public highways
>public parks
I'm pretty sure every single 1st world country has all of these. None of which would ever be considered "socialism."
Good try though.
>>745977120
So, all this is literally just some sort of popularity contest? It's about bragging rights? No wonder you ended up with such a moron. Wtf happened to you america? You had such great potential.
>>745977297
Not him, but
>missing the point this badly
>>745977120
Is he really a billionaire?
Remember, in 2011, he lost a libel suit over someone publishing that his net work was between 150-250 mil.
All he had to do to win was prove he was worth more than that. He couldn't.
Sure, 200mil is a ton of money, but it's 1/5th the billion he claims.
>>745977120
you're unaware that the same drugs cost way fucking less in canada of what they cost in the USA?
you're having this conversation and you don't even know that? Fuck off. You don't know shit about anything.
I'm not saying Obama was a good president. I'm saying FDR was the best president. Look at all he did for the people. Not the money grabbing Jews on Wall Street but the people that actually need the money and support from the government. The government should be in place to help the majority not the top 1%
>>745977363
And I'll repeat, it's because rape in sweden is different from rape in any other country. Remember Assange.
>>745977131
>>745977131
Nigger, do you think people actually spent that much?
Fuck no. The insurance companies paid almost all of that amount. And they certainly made billions over that amount from premiums.
Socialized health care means that, guess what, you have to front the bill.
Can you afford $9,000 a year for health care? Probably not.
>>745976574
In addition, toilet paper is rationed by the government, you can't peacefully protest your own government there without fear of being killed and their government suppresses differing political opinions by imprisoning those who dare to question the system - such as Leopoldo López (btw, it took the help of an American legal team to eventually secure his release)... but no socialism is greeaat.
I swear, some people would rather trade liberty (or what we have left of it in America) to be serfs
>>745977363
Did you know that the reason sweden has so many rapes is because Sweden records every type of sexual harrasment and assault as rape? Nope, you didn't, cus that doesnt fit into your narrative you fucking faggot
>>745977371
>>745977371
>implying health care is even on the same level as public infrastructure.
>>745977120
his only reason to do it was his tainted ego. He's a megalomaniac who could never live up to his father's legend. Becoming president was his way of saying "FUCK YOU DAD, I"M BETTER THAN YOU AFTER ALL!"
>>745974640
No. He's a huge advocate for open borders and globalism.
>>745977500
Explain to me how its different? What does rape mean in Sweden?
>>745976152
>The United States currently spends $3 trillion on health care each year—nearly $10,000 per person.
So were you counting on me to just get bored and leave?
>>745977567
No, that's not what I'm implying at all... kek how dumb are you exactly?
>>745977571
And because obama hurt his feefees
>>745977401
>>745977401
>Remember, in 2011, he lost a libel suit over someone publishing that his net work was between 150-250 mil.
https://www.forbes.com/donald-trump/#979c97128992
Try again faggot.
All three of those choices are shit.
Bernie's a complete loonbag and would've destroyed our economy. A straight up communist, no he wouldn't have been better than either.
>>745977546
Fucking kek. If that was true im pretty sure that America would be number one on that list.
>>745977442
>>745977442
Ah yes, Canada. Where you have to wait years for health care.
Fuck off you fucking leaf. Go shovel some snow and snort maple syrup you soft faggot.
>>745977690
OK, that lists his assets, what about his debt?
>>745977625
Remember Assange, for the third time now brainlet.
>>745977546
>Sweden records every type of sexual harrasment and assault as rape
Including, but not limited to; having consensual sex with a woman but not putting a condom on when she thinks you are.
>>745976360
Sometimes the only way to fix shit is to hit rock bottom.
Less than half the voters even showed up. Maybe the Parties will figure out they need to give us real candidates, or we'll keep voting Shitbirds into office.
>>745977571
>>745977571
>tainted ego
What the fuck are you even talking about.
This mother fucker has millions in real estate, businesses and overall capital.
>>745977442
it's not just drugs. health care companies gouge american citizens on all the services they provide. it's unethical and needs to be regulated.
even extremely loose regulation would make universal health care very affordable.
>>745977752
As opposed to America where kids are on organ transplant wait lists for literally the rest of their lives.
>>745977646
>>745977646
Once again faggot, which is paid out by insurance companies.
>>745975416
Yes, lets compare countries with ~90% white populations, see how happy they are, and assume cultural responsibility will carry over to our rapidly browning country.
WHY are scandinavian countries happy?
Percent white:
Austria: ~91.7%
Belgium: ~89.5%
Denmark: 94.8%
France: ~86.4%
Germany: 89.6%
Ireland: 94.8%
Italy: 97.1%
Netherlands: 84.6%
Norway: 92.5%
Poland: 99.5%
Portugal: 98.9%
Spain: 93.8%
Sweden: ~89.4%
Switzerland: ~92.0%
United Kingdom: 87.1%
>>745977651
>>745977651
Ok faggot. Just go ahead and keep trying to make some imaginary bullshit point and not say anything about it.
You sure showed me.
>>745977821
>What the fuck are you even talking about.
Are you serious? Can you really not see this obvious fact? The man acts like a baby all the time.
>>745977908
I think showing you anything meaningful is next to impossible.
>>745974640
Bernie shills for dregs of society and can't even handle them at his own speeches.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWOuCfdJYMM
>>745977841
>>745977841
>organ transplant lists for the rest of their lives
Like everywhere else you fucking retard. The united states doesn't have artificial organs at the mass production that's needed.
Did you seriously bring that up thinking you were going to be making a somewhat valid point?
Go the fuck to sleep.
>>745977855
If Insurance companies are paying out that much money, business would dictate that they are collecting at least that much, but likely more, because if you run a business at a loss, you don't run a business very long.
>>745977748
Only Sweden counts rape this way you fucking retard. America doesn't, so no, we wouldnt be ahead of them. How is it wearing a bicycle helmet on your head whenever you go outside?
>>745977819
maybe you should be less passive
I find it very strange, how you can be against a working healthcare system. How dare people to take away from your earnings to help someone who fell sick to cancer. How dare they to take away from you earnings for the guy who got run over by a hit and run. How long does this egotistical world view hold on? So long till it happens to you. Oh yeah but it cant happen to you because you are responsible, accidants or misfortune only happens to other people right? But seriously how ignorant do you have to be to only understaand a problem when you are on the receiving end. Seriously "The American Way" or more what it has become makes me sick to my stomach and im so fucking thankfull not to be born in that shithole of a failed country.
>>745977978
>>745977978
>more ad hominem bullshit.
Not even surprised faggot.
"Not one of you lousy shitstains even knows what Democratic Socialism is, so suck the maple syrup off my sweet saggy ballsack!" - Bernie Sanders
This thread is full of retarded gits, that think they're smarter then they actually are. If you wanna pay an additional %60 on taxes, go for Burnie. If you wanna be like Venezuela, go for Burnie. And if you like going to Disney world for the lines, but not the ride, Bread ration lines are your thing. Go for Burnie.
"America is the greatest country in the history of the world! That's why we need to stop doing what we do uniquely, and be like the other countries."
-Bernies "owns 7 million dollar mansions" Sanders.
>>745977821
he owes more than he has. He's in so much debt he had to borrow money from Russia, through german banks.
>>745977817
Exactly. People who talk about swedish rapes are fucking stupid.
>>745978022
>ad hominem
>>>/plebbit/
>>745977817
Are you sure? That sounds more like America to me. Also I never heard of the "incident" with Assange.
>>745975850
>>745975874
Jesus liberals are fucking dumb, 2 sec search
http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/17/politics/bernie-sanders-medicare-plan/index.html
>>745977993
>>745977993
Alright since you seem to be a bit slow, let's run through it.
A.) Most people don't need serious medical care, at most, they need the occasional checkup and tests done.
B.) Insurance negotiates a fair rate for the work provided
C.) Insurance companies still collect trillions a year while they pay out billions.
>>745978091
>Are you sure?
Yes.
>I never heard of the "incident" with Assange
Why am I not surprised?
>>745974640
>Bernie have made a better president
My toe nail clippings would have made a better president then either of them.
>>745978074
>>745978074
Is there a leftist equivalent of breitbart? Because I'm pretty sure that's where you got that inane statement from.
>>745974640
Donald Trump isn't fit to be the president, and Hillary Clinton is legitimately evil, so probably. Doesn't matter, though. He lost. He'll never, ever be president. Get over it.
>>745977311
unfortunately, we decided to take a massive collective shit on our Constitution by having 1) a government whose persistence of it's own power and hold over the population has been never ending and 2) a Citizenry too stupid to give a damn about the principals which gave the individual inherent rights above the government.
>>745976040
several countries in the EU are in a debt death spiral and only being held up by the rest of the EU. They continually default on debt and they just print more money (devaluing it) to cover their losses, they have no exit plan for this game until they weirmarch/zimbabwe reset their shit.
>>745978063
I think you are missing the big picture. If you pay more in taxes, but as a result, pay less in health care costs, and end up with more money in your pocket at the end of the day, isn't that a good thing?
>>745978014
Lol, yea why help my own family when I suffer my own struggles, when I can be a saint like you. Who must obviously go to homeless shelters and orphanages to help. Donate you're next paycheck on nothing but charity, you fucking spoiled shit. Just cause you don't know struggle doesn't mean no one does.
>>745977826
This is the real kicker about healthcare in America. Without meaningful reform and regulation any sort of single-payer healthcare would just mainline cash into healthcare companies while obscuring inefficiencies and overcharging.
>>745978142
C would imply that we are paying too much for health care.
>>745977448
FDR was shit. The internment (the nice way of putting our own citizens in concentration camps, simply because they looked differt) he enacted is grounds enough to place him at the bottom of the list.
>>745978299
>>745978299
> If you pay more in taxes, but as a result, pay less in health care costs, and end up with more money in your pocket at the end of the day, isn't that a good thing?
What sort of retarded mental gymnastics did you have to perform to puke that statement up?
Socialized health care means that someone, somewhere is essentially a slave to the government. If there's a fuckload of people wanting health care and the amount of doctors is less than the demand dictates, guess what, you're waiting for months if not years to be seen.
>>745978274
>we decided to take a massive collective shit on our Constitution
But why? Aren't you always raving on about muh constitution and how good of an idea that whole thing was? What did you gain by trashing it?
>>745977826
>US healthcare industry
>Unregulated
Pick one, because everything from who can practice medicine to who can manufacture medication to what treatments a healthcare professional can provide to the permissible content taught at med school to an insurance market raped by government in cahoots with pharma CEOs is so tightly regulated you couldn't fit a micropenis between the red tape.
>>745978479
>>745978479
>muh constitution
It's the document our entire country was based off of you insignificant waste of space.
>>745976487
and you forgot the part where liberals get their panties in a twist when trump does his thing. I think the guy is an idiot but I love the way it pisses them off
>>745978452
Business is still business. Health care costs money. The people performing the work get paid. If there is more demand than there is supply, costs go up. If costs go up, pay goes up, more people join the workforce, costs go down, pay goes down. The market finds a happy medium.
>>745978311
I dont need to put my paycheck into a homeless shelter, because thats what social security is for, for which I pay with my taxes. Sorry but any country that needs voluntary homeless shelters because its goverment, which should represent the people, lets their people starve in the streets, is a failed state to me. It doesnt matter if you cant or you simply dont want to, that propperty puts the US on the same level as north korea to me.
>>745978142
Where the fuck do you think insurance companies get their money from?
>>745978628
>>745978628
That's capitalism you silly nigger. We're talking about the "joys of socialism." In which case, the GOVERNMENT dictates the cost. So what happens when doctors don't want to go through years of schooling just to get paid dick in return? Less doctors.
This isn't rocket science.
>>745976633
9 months, still waiting on evidence, but im sure itll be this month, right MSM?
There was no "collusion", the left is just too buthurt to let it go
>>745975110
And you've spent far too long drinking xenophobic kool aid.
>>745978553
lol, right... So why take a massive collective shit on it? That was my question... Jesus, I thought this whole americans being dumb thing was a meme... It all makes so much sense now.
>>745978074
Hahaha you stupid fuck.
HE isn't broke. He loads his debts onto a corporate property then lets the company sink.
All you idiots thinking the bankruptcies mean he's dumb are fools. The guy spends billions that he doesn't even have and gets other people to eat the debt. Fucking brilliant.
Can't trust him, but hey sometimes you just have to let the forest burn for awhile.
>>745978674
>>745978674
The american people. Who pay WAY fucking less than $9,000 a year, per person.
>>745978726
Sure, in a pure socialism, that would be the case, but nobody EVER suggested that retarded idea.
What is suggested is that we, as a nation, work together, for the greater good, to provide healthcare for all americans.
Nobody is suggesting that doctors and nurses be sent to forced labor camps where they are held at gunpoint while performing proctology exams.
>>745976765
You would kill innovation to regulate drug prices. Why would you make half the drugs that come out if you cant make any money on it?
If you want to save money you need to deregulate (and accept that looser controls on new drugs means more adverse effects and deaths) and give drug companies immunity from the resulting lawsuits.
But if you want safe drugs for "orphan" illnesses, then our system works, its just expensive.
>>745978732
>>745978732
Because our media companies are owned by huge conglomerates who want socialism, who want to NOT pay for benefits, who WANT to collect more money, who WANT to pay less in taxes.
It's real simple shit dude. We also have millions of special snowflakes who are now like 34 genders at once and you're supposed to know their "correct pronoun" and if you don't you're a bigot. These little snowflakes are incredibly easy to sway with Facebook videos and random rallies.
>>745974640
Better than Trump? Yeah. Anything is better then that orange turd.
Better than Hillary? Hard to say. Definitely more inspiring, but he's not a great debater and he isn't so great with planning out the details of his big goals ( for example: how to pay for single payer healthcare or "free" colleges).
>>745978871
>>745978871
>Sure, in a pure socialism, that would be the case, but nobody EVER suggested that retarded idea.
Bernie literally proposed that plan.
That's the joke.
>>745978726
We the people, would dictate the costs. If you have long lines at the abortion clinic, then you vote in reps who will pay doctors more to abort babies.
>>745974712
This
>>745978898
>ramblings of a madman
Just... never mind mate, have a good one.
So you're gonna act like The New Deal wasn't the best legislation passed? Right ok well let me guess you love good ol Ronny Reagan who almost single handedly sold the country to the oil companies and Wall Street
Don't even deny it.
That Jew thinks food lines are a good thing because the evil evil rich people buy all the healthy food and only bad food is left for the poor. Also see pic
>>745978963
>Bernie literally proposed that plan.
no you were taking things out of context again
>>745978963
did he? I must have missed that speech...
>>745974640
Bernie is an idyot. He would have rewarded even more people for doing nothing. Nazis are the only ones who did socialism right, rewarding the workers not the n'er-do-wells.
>>745978628
No, because part of socialized medicine is fixed or capped costs.
What really happens is the good doctors go private Practice and only treat the filthy Rich who can pay it all out of pocket.
Then you end up with the public system o overloaded and stocked with no talent hacks. Which is exactly how it works in Canada and most of Europe.
>>745974640
Quite possibly yes. A split government that does very little is just what the doctor ordered, for stability of the economy, which is needed to give investors more confidence.
Spending out of control throws fear into them as they are waiting for the shoe to drop on a demagogue declaring, well, it's time to increase your fair share!
>>745979025
>>745979025
>We the people, would dictate the costs.
Lmao, is that what you really believe? Who even told you that?
The government would be footing the bill. Guess what? They're gonna want the costs as low as they will go. Otherwise, they won't pay. So we'll have millions of doctors being underpaid and overworked.
Look at Canada, they have 1/10 of the population that we do. They have wait times of up to 3 years.
>>745979079
Was that money wasted? It sure seems like his goals are still moving forward. Sure, he lost the race, but what does that matter if the things he campaigned for get enacted as law?
>>745978014
"Charity for all and malice towards none"
Look at Houston TX or Florida, where people were literally giving the last of what they had to eat to their neighbor who was in the same shit situation as them. The difference is, we want the CHOICE of where the proceeds from the sweat off our brow goes, and while we're not perfect, when the choice is left to the individual you'd see more of the same - instead of compelled charity forced on us from our government.
>>745976962
they are getting a lot of rapes now due to 3rd world importation of brown people, which will eventually cause the deterioration of their social safety net like they do here in the US. They also do have a liberal definition of rape, but mass muslim importation recently has caused their rates to skyrocket. So they were a homogeneous society and will be paying for fucking that up for a long time.
>>745979037
>>745979037
>literally no argument
You too, "mate."
>>745977021
pretty much this
>>745976765
Get rid of the patent system and problem solved
>>745977073
Yes, yes it is.
>>745979172
If those costs are capped at reasonable rates, then it would still be profitable to be a doctor serving the public interest.
>>745979095
>>745979095
>out of context
Pretty sure I wasn't nigger.
>>745979103
>>745979103
It's right on his fucking website dude. Look it up faggot instead of watching videos from "NowThis" and "Huffpost."
>>745978767
Only because businesses pick up the slack. And besides, businesses are people in America. My employer pays for ~70% of my insurance, working out to just over $10k/year.
I like when they show how his free college for all would be mathematically impossible even if we eliminated the entire military and doubled taxes but niggers still want it because "muh free stuff cuz we wuz kangs n shit"
>>745978629
Lol in your own words, you are chastising Venezuela, a socialist country, for not caring for citizens. But it's cool the people can care for themselves. Eating the zoo animals, eating the pets that circle the block, eating the recently deceased. "Stop using Venezuela!" K, North korea, turned dictatorship, Russia, fucking IMMENSE famine, one of the biggest in history, all are socialist, but yea, America needs to step up. What are fucking charity hospitals, and government programs helping the needy. OHHH I get it, you're not needy, but you wanna get benefits. Use that degree in unemployment you got homie, and go flick your bean for "art".
>>745979191
Do you not know how a representative democracy works?
If you are unhappy with your representation, you replace them.
>>745974640
No, he was the dumbest of the three policy wise
>>745979342
>>745979342
>businesses pick up the slack
Yeah because they make millions. Your employer still makes at least 10% net profit when all is said and done.
>>745979309
I'm not very good at reading, can you quote the parts for me that you are talking about?
I don't mind if you cut/paste, I'm just so lazy.
>>745978311
Lol social sercurity, just read that, Nigga that's so you (YOU PERSONALLY) have money in a retirement pool. Lol you fucking tard, confirmed troll. People cant be this stupid.
>>745979368
>>745979368
>representative democracy
Are you trying to be retarded or just acting like it.
Socialism isn't a democracy.
>>745979079
>People voluntarily giving money to someone to spread a message in which they believe
vs
>Government threatening to kidnap and cage you if you don't gibs me dat money
>>745976193
And I refuse to think that the political side responsible for that is competent enough to have a good president.
>>745979467
No, I think I'm pretty normal...
Where in Bernie's plan did he lay out eliminating the senate and herding the population into work camps?
>>745979492
I guess that is yet to be decided. If he gets to see single payer enacted as law, I would say that every penny was well spent.
>>745979595
>>745979595
This is basically just me repeating the same points until everyone leaves. But here it is, again.
His plan would cost you $9,000 a year.
Do you have that amount of money per year to spend on health care?
>>745975447
Bro im from Venezuela and u fucking right
>>745979549
>voluntarily giving money
Strawman proposed by middleclass rightists.
Show me your donation history, Libertarian. Anything less than millions and you'll be slaughterd with the rest.
>>745978479
That's where the "having a "Citizenry too stupid" comes in... in terms of civil liberties and principals which founded the country. It's a process that was set in motion over 100 years ago with progressivism. See Theodore Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson.
>>745976487
>he cant be bought out
>while completely pandering to every big business including oil and coal
>against taxing the rich and doesnt pay his own taxes
>>745977131
MFW you missed the part where he raises taxes on basically everyone, including a 6% tax on employers, 2% on individuals, a new progressive tax rate of UP TO 52%... and all this is based on what, just like obamacare, are going to end up beiing MASSIVELY underestimated.
>>745975110
>implying little timmy the jew next door wants to destroy u
>>745979213
Well you also "chose" a system that allows the circumstances to allow people to come into that position of need. And to be able to help you need to see it? whats with all the invisible elderly people rotting away getting smuthered by medical bills or the kids with cancer who dont get lucky enough to get on a make a wish show you can spend a few bucks on them to sate your consience by "choosing" to give them some of your hard earned money. How about you "Choose" to help those people who dont get media coverage with your fucking VOTE?!
Im sorry but that Charity argument is nothing but pretentious.
>>745979460
"Hey I took your money and spent it for you on a retirement plan"
Such charity
>>745979665
I spend more than that already on the plan I get from work.
>>745974640
NO. As a personality, No. as a President? absolfuckinglutely, NOPE. As a Senator. Not a fucking chance. As a Congressional elect? Nuh-uh! As a garbage collector. sure, why the fuck not!?
>>745974640
Jewnie Sanders
>>745977245
because poor third world trash burdens a healthcare system without contributing to that system
>>745979349
They have famine The US has assholes, both cause people to starve, same shit different name.
>>745979738
>>745979738
>while completely pandering to every big business including oil and coal
Like every other president ever in office. You just don't know about it because the media loves to suck democrat dick. They won't point out that Obama did the exact same shit.
>against taxing the rich and doesnt pay his own taxes
He pays a higher rate than Obama, Bernie & Hillary. He also had a year tax return released as well that proved this. He pays millions in taxes.
Nice try though faggot. Learn to do some research on your own.
>>745979690
People didn't voluntarily give their money to Sanders?
Couldn't understand the last part of your post when you went all autistic
>>745979818
Wasn't there a study recently that said that refugees were actually a net gain on the american economy?
>>745979787
>>745979787
You spend $750 a month on health care costs?
>>745976193
What exactly is he doing thats retarded? Cause only bumps in his high-emperor's kingdom is trying to appease to the democrats. He gave them a budget for themselves personally. The people that but the nation in super debt, he just gave them a no spending limit card. He goofed
>>745977752
What treatments?
>>745979979
Yah, shit sucks, healthcare is expensive.
>>745979930
>>745979930
>Wasn't there a study recently that said that refugees were actually a net gain on the american economy?
I bet that was the same people who said that illegals "stimulate the economy" too. But they won't account for how much we actually spend on them so of course, their argument looks good for them.
>>745979053
No I like Washington, Jefferson, Adams... any form of which we need now more than ever.
And social security is the biggest forced ponzi scheme - so, yes, (at the obvious risk of oversimplifying) the New Deal was horseshit.
>>745980058
I guess if your cherry pick all your statistics, you can make them say anything you want.
>>745980047
>>745980047
Yeah idk of any plan that costs that much outside of Cobra (which is pretty fucking sweet).
>>745980120
Bingo.
>>745974755
Hey going to work this job making money for the top one percent as I slowly go further and further in debt like a man. Don't equal things out and give me a chance... I don't want ta be a cuck, now masta said if Iz a work real hard I can gets another loan ta owe him even moar.... Yay Capitalism.
>>745979665
Nigga, if you take %60 percent of your paychecks, and then subtract $9000 from that. Have fun living with either a solid computer and starve, or reading books for fun again. FUCK Communism!
>>745979172
>Implying no talent hacks can get an 3.9 gpa and make it through med school
>>745980170
>>745980170
>Hey going to work this job making money for the top one percent as I slowly go further and further in debt like a man.
Yeah, that's the great part about America.
You can start your own business and make millions. Or you can be a wage slave and hate your life.
It's the reason why millions immigrate to America every year.
>>745976726
Social ism.
That the socioty is more important then a individual.
That if things are better for the whole, the individual can and should take a loss.
>>745980135
To be fair, you are a child who hasn't experienced much of what life brings.
My son's birth cost me more than 9k in hospital bills (after insurance paid their share)
>>745974640
Looking how bernie got CUCKED by BLM, he would have got cucked by other players all the time.
>>745979191
Wait times for what treatment?
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