the 2nd amendment is literally useless in todays world
>>745822984
So is the 4th. Government can search and sieze whatever it wants.
>>745822984
Yeah, they're all useless.
They won, and we have an out of control tyrannical government.
>>745822984
The revolutionary's were out gunned by the Empire, but they still won.
What if I have a gun to keep in my house for protection and not to fight the gobamen'?
>>745822984
The Second Amendment is not useless. Ever hear of a little shit hole called Afghanistan?
>>745823778
That's gubmint
>>745823778
call the police, you're not rambo.
>>745823867
Yes, and wait for half an hour while the criminal can come in and rape the babies in your baby dungeon
Nah fuck that
>>745823738
thanks france
>>745823867
No gun...
>"9-1-1, what's your emergency?"
>"This nigger has a gu-....... you call has been disconnected."
Gun...
>grab gun, point, shoot
>>745822984
If Vietnamese peasants could fuck up the greatest military in the world like it did then we'll be fine. I mean Cuckifornia will fall first but i'm not worried.
>>745823635
>They won, and we have an out of control tyrannical government.
So why did the citizens stage an armed revolt to prevent this from happening? Isn't that the whole point on the 2nd amendment?
>>745824055
*didn't
>>745822984
Because using fighter planes against civilians is a wise use of resources and will not destroy non-combatants.
>>745824045
Vietnamese reporting in
>>745822984
What is Syria?
>>745824055
>>745824145
>implying noncombatants' lives enter into the calculus of war at all anymore
Here's the problem with the magical thinking of the radical gun owners. None of them is going to start the revolution. No one wants to be the first to die, and even if they think they're starting the revolution, no one else will know or care and they'll be picked off one by one due to a complete lack of organization.
So they'll just just huddle in their bunkers, threatening to revolt if X happens, and when X happens, they won't do shit, as always.
The gestapo on the street corner doesn't have an Abrams in his back pocket. F-17s aren't looking over the Libertine Governors during their rape parties.
You simply cannot force an armed population to accept tyranny. It is impossible to keep everything and everyone so controlled that even 1% of the population willing and able to kill for their freedoms would be unable to seriously destabilize a despotic regime. Because as soon as you start using cluster bombs on your own population suddenly those soldiers you thought were on your side, the ones who actually pilot your fighter jets and coordinate your bombing campaigns, well they'll fracture and you have both sides armed with modern weapons of war.
>>745822984
Not entirely. A government cannot kill all its population and expect to still "rule" a country.
So, yeah, it could (and would) be deadly to well-identified opponents, especially if they're stupid enough to regroup far away from innocent bystanders.
But armed citizens can always make it harder for a tyrant to "own" the country.
That doesn't mean that anybody should use weapons whenever and wherever, either...
>>745824259
is your dad by any chance half white?
>>745824329
Nope, why are you my lost brother or something?
>>745823980
you got to be a special kind of stupid to call a black man that is robbing you at gunpoint a nigger.
>>745822984
You are fucking retarded
>>
>>745824295
You're right, you're totally free to walk all over anyone
Must be time round up those guns, i'm sure you'll volunteer
>>745824295
>implying every gun owner is planning to take on the government
>implying I am going to wait for police to show up in a life or death situation, where the suspect could have a gun
>implying outlawing guns will convince criminals to give theirs away
>implying Australia still cannot its gun problem, and they live on their own chunk of land
>implying guns still wouldn't flood in from Mexico, where guns are illegal but some how cartels still have them in bulk
>implying why me owning one pistol matters to you
>>745824471
That's why he shot me. But that is me without a gun. With my gun I can still call him and nigger, remove him, and I get to live.
>>745824295
sure kid.
like
you
know
it
all
>>745824557
Let me paint your tiny brain a scenario. The ATF shows up at your house to seize your guns. Just out of the blue. Knock, knock -- give us all your guns.
Do you:
A. Comply, all the while shitting your pants
B. Shoot agents of the federal government
I'm guessing A, but feel free to lie and say B.
>>745824471
The "not have any guns in your house with which to shoot the violent animal" kind of stupid?
>>745824471
can't read. thinks he can post.
>>745824295
but....but....but....mah patriotism is strong
>>745824295
>t. 18th Century Britain
>>745824593
>implying that all gun owners are "radical gun owners"
Nigga, learn to read before getting your panties in a wad.
>>745823455
Maybe it doesn't always keep you from being arrested, but the 4th still protects you after the fact when they try and charge you for a crime.
>>745822984
So, I guess the entirety of the U.S military are emotionless robots then? Who's gonna be driving those tanks and launching those rockets on us?
I have cousins in MARSOC, one of them is a sniper and the other is going to fly helicopters. Are you suggesting they're gonna fly into their family's back yard and murder me to please their new masters?
God you people are retarded...
>>745822984
So why do you even care about mentioning it
>>745824698
stupid little shit if I ever heard one.
>>745823942
+1 France is best and original us teammate
>>745824798
You're just mad because you know it's true.
>>745824698
When the day comes that protecting yourself is a crime, I will be a criminal
Who do you think is in the armed forces, OP? A bunch of American citizens who almost wholly support the second amendment. So, you're suggesting that a bunch of Americans are going to march into their hometown and start killing their friends, families, and neighbors because the government told them to?
Or, for the sake of argument, disregard that. Let's say the US military marches on their own hometowns and starts bombing the fuck out of them. Did that work in Afghanistan, Iraq, Vietnam? Nope, it really didn't (please don't be one of those people who claim we "won" lol). In each of those wars you have overwhelming military might versus a bunch of poorly armed hillbillies. Guess what, America has the best armed Hillbillies in the world. To put it another way, the civilian population of the United States is, by the numbers, the largest armed force in the world.
Or, let's say the US military starts "winning" -
again, which is retarded because the only way to win is to have a country left over when it's all said and done. Have you ever heard of a military coup, OP? If you don't win the hearts and minds of the people (or at least so thoroughly subjugate them they resemble North Korea), you won't have a government very long.
So the "government" or, perhaps more likely a handful of congressman, decide to kill all Americans in this fantasy situation of yours. The military wouldn't be supporting that, especially when the military is full of power hungry people just the same as any other group of humans who are just itching to get that power for themselves.
You're under estimating the NEED for the second amendment, probably because you're a statist (or a shill), but more likely retarded.
>>745824375
I don't think my dad could have shot his load across the ocean but we can be brothers.
>>745822984
Private firearm ownership rate per capita
>Syria 3.9
>Ireland 4.3
>Afghanistan 4.6
>Iraq 34.2
>United States 112.6
Its like you literally don't understand how insurgencies work.
>>745823867
LOL last time I called the police they said it was going to take 2 hours to get to me. A guy texting and driving rear ended me and totaled my car, tried to drive off too, luckily just being on the phone with 911 scared him into staying. The cops called me back 4 hours later asking if I still needed them.
Fuck the Rambo dumbasses, but cops are useless. I don't blame people for not wanting to bother with those dumbfucks
>>745824884
I live in USA, but some Vietnamese family.
>>745823942
+1 for France
>>745824698
Option C, they look around and dont find the guns, meanwhile I record them completely messing up the house and my kids crying and upload it later to foment general public upset
>>745824855
So, you're a liar and claiming that B is your response? Enjoy dying.
I find it amusing that 2nd amendment types are the first to tell you
>"always comply with the police and you won't get in trouble. #heroes #remember911"
>>745824260
What is tyrannical?
>>745823867
When the Eurofags think America is just a land of cities. Some places in the USA have very small police forces. Rural areas might even only have 2 or so, and just stay on call at night. And in large cities they can be backed up with too many calls. It could take any amount of time before the police show up.
There is more guarantee your pizza to show up in the estimated time than the police.
>inb4 USA is shitty for that
No, we just look after ourselves instead of crying to the government for help for literally everything
>>745824948
Lol, Youtube warrior. Great thing that you had your guns to protect you from that tyranny. But thanks for your semi-honesty.
>>745822984
This. It is why socialism is superior also in that regard.
All people receive military training and have access to weaponry.
All workplaces in industry and (collective) farming have a dedicated military group.
It's why you see tractors for example in the DPRK military parade.
Not because they don't have better vehicles available, but it's the collective farm soldiers participating in that parade.
Peasants in socialism have access to anti air guns and the training to use them.
>>745824295
>none of them wants to be the first to die
You're forgetting the early days of the Clinton administration. Nobody wants to be the first to die, but Randy Weaver and the Branch Davidians both fought back.
More importantly, the feds chose to stop prosecutions for Oklahoma City at Tim and Terry. They didn't storm Elohim. They didn't work to hard to bring in the ARA. They didn't connect dots that were easily connected. Those were choices.
The feds had limitless resources, but they stopped fighter after a they won a couple of small gun fights and saw one truck bomb.
>>745824554
those posts have an incredible amount bullshit in them
someone who likes writing fiction was bored and feeling creative
>>745823941
>hypothetical worst case scenario.
If you are so worried about someone breaking into your house up your security to keep people out. Having a loaded gun in your house is more dangerous than Tyron walking the streets.
>>745825080
A camera is more powerful than a gun but I dont expect you to know that because you are just a kid
>>745824295
What if there is a coup within the government/military working with militia and other civilian units?
>>745825104
Yeah, how'd that work out for Koresh and Weaver? Oh right, they died and not a single fuck was given. All the outraged gun nuts did shit.
>They didn't storm Elohim. They didn't work to hard to bring in the ARA. They didn't connect dots that were easily connected
Yeah, the government is so scared of you fags.
>>745822984
Just a friendly reminder that Titor's war ends with Russia nuking American cities.
>>745824698
How is the ATF going to know I have guns in my house? How are they going to know specifics of what guns? Fuck, how are they going to know that what they confiscate is all of them? Nothing I own has ever been registered, anything thats ever been on a black book with my name has a bill of sale I could readily produce to suggest that I am no longer in possession of that weapon, and any massive confiscation effort would give all the warning in the world.
I'd piss and moan and call it tyranny and they'd walk away with a nugget, and 870, and an old Taurus.
>>745825209
neither is as powerful as a katana for home defense
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAkCLpMtjlM
>>745825209
>A camera is more powerful than a gun
So why own a gun?
Checkmate.
>>745822984
incorrect. despite what many people think, technology, weapons, money, and other supplies do not win wars. people win wars. strong willed men and (occasionally) women win wars. guns just make it possible. take a case example look into the middle east and america. despite america being in Iraq with tanks, planes, and in many cases better firearms (depending on how you feel about the AK-47), the conflict still ended in a stale mate at best, and at worst ended in a ku against Hussein, making way for ISIS. this is not to say that the second amendment is irrelevant. because it is still necessary to have basic tools in order to establish a resistance to any force. while a normal populace does not have the means to produce tanks, it can produce armor. a populace may not be able to produce jets and missiles, but it can produce proxy weaponry. these things merely make strategic planning simpler. a rifle however has no viable replacement. a bow cannot and never will be able to over come modern armor. rockets simply cannot be used against an insurgent populace. and tanks are actually fairly inefficient against modern infantry tactics.
>>745824295
Basically every single thing you just said was wrong....
First of all, there are very well organized groups and militias. This is a well known fact, and you have to be pretty ignorant to not be aware of this.
Second of all, ugh I don't even have the time or energy to correct your entire worldview because your fundamentals are all out of whack. Try leaving your hometown once in awhile.
>>745824917
It all depends. A rear end accident is not more important than a murder or drug bust. Plus most cities are short handed. My city is about 600 police short
>>745825309
>How is the ATF going to know I have guns in my house?
Because the tyrannical NSA knows everything about you, Cletus. Whatcha gun do 'bout it?
>>745822984
It's for niggers dumb fuck lol
>>745825377
>First of all, there are very well organized groups and militias.
Niggers playing war ever other weekend doesn't make for a well-organized resistance. If one of these groups is taken down, the others have no planned response and won't do shit out of fear.
You know it.
>>745825049
Are you saying you should shoot cops for no reason?
Amusing how it's always the gun control nuts fantasizing about "cappin pigs"
>>745825276
Its not about fear and its not about revolution. The Second Amendment is about making it cheaper for the state to say "fuck it, let them be retards in peace" than to go in and push it. Thats what Oklahoma City accomplished. Thats why black folks are still getting killed by cops. You don't have to smash the state and install a new regime to carry the day, you just have to make fucking with you marginally more difficult than a group of bureaucrats who don't really care that much are willing to put up with.
Widespread civilian gun ownership, paired with the occasional act of domestic terrorism or direct action, alters the path of least resistance.
>>745825085
>claiming that socialist countries are as well armed as the american public
ok... let me fix that for you
>claiming that communist regimes are as well armed and a wholly better system than america's combination and balance of socialism/capitalism
lol, see how dumb you sound?
>>745824045
News flash the jungles were the only reason the vietcong survived.
>>745825085
No access to bread tho
>>745825471
Not him, but I am just wondering. How many military units would blindly follow orders to kill their own people? I know many would, but I think a large amount of also object. Thus they start fighting internally. Checkmate US military.
>>745825345
American military swept the Iraqi military away in just days. The problems started when they thought they could keep the peace.
The American military is great at flattening. But rebuilding another matter entirely.
When it comes to an armed insurrection, they should just stick to flattening your homes and burning the rubble from hundreds of miles away.
>>745824295
>one of them is going to start the revolution. No one wants to be the first to die, and even if they think they're starting the revolution, no one else will know or care and they'll be picked off one by one due to a complete lack of organization.
what you fail to consider is that many "radical gun owners" are prior military and have already been put in a position to consider their lives as lost for a cause. not to mention that Montana and Texas both have large groups of militia's that already consider themselves as rebelling against the government. granted they are not actively fighting a revolution, I think given a large scale movement they would activate and mobilize.
>>745822984
>>failing to see that 2/3 of the army is minority race and would defect in second amendment
>>failing to use /pol/
>>745822984
This will trigger the amerifat.
>>745824781
I'd suggest you read the patriot act.
>>745824300
this, very much this, so much this. this is what's good.
>>745825606
>implying any middle eastern military is well organized
This is why they lose so much. They cannot organize or communicate worth shit.
Question for the delusional gun owners here: why haven't you revolted yet? You don't think the government has overreached enough yet? Seriously?
>>745825471
Dude, you're proving my point about your worldview not making any sense. It's like you're one of those 8th graders who first read about either anarchy or communism and you think it's a great idea.
First of all, they're almost all white. Like by far. Also, they're the war machine itself. They're the ones who support the american army. They're the ones who grow the food and produce the oil and bullets and tanks and missiles. They're the families who birth the soldiers. Hell, most of them are vets or active duty as we speak!
>If one of these groups is taken down, the others have no planned response and won't do shit out of fear.
Like, what are you even trying to say..? Compare what your brain is trying to shit out to some world history. Look at Iraq, Afghanistan, or Vietnam if you must - it seems to be the only shit kids knows about these days.
>>745822984
>Implying the US government is going to cause trillions upon trillions of dollars worth of damage to its own infrastructure just to bomb some rednecks
>Implying half or more of the United States military forces won't immediately defect to the rebel side once ordered to attack their own country/fellow people
>Implying any military action on US soil against itself wouldn't be mostly foot soldiers and light vehicles
>Implying there's not any veterans with decades of service under their belt on the civilian side that can quickly bring people under command and control.
>Implying there's not any veterans with years of urban combat under their belt that would fight for the freedom of their country
You stupid libcucks really are braintarded
>>745825571
Regardless of location, a standing army cannot win against a guerrilla army. The whole point of a guerrilla army is to make the opposition bleed. Plus the fighting would take place in concrete jungles. Literally a fuck with a rifle in every window. not to mention shit like IED's and other booby traps
>>745822984
https://www.quora.com/Which-are-the-top-10-strongest-navies-in-the-world op has no idead what he is talking about.
>>745825571
Travel America, friend. Go walk the Appalachian trail and pass some one that has been living off the land and hasn't spoken to another human being for months. Travel out west and talk to the people living in the mountains, in the desert, in the pacific northwest, the people wrestling alligators in the everglades for shits and giggles.
>>745824471
I mean, he's already got you at gun point. Might as well see if he really would pull the trigger
>>745825597
This was one of my earlier points. Also, many of the American militias are white people from conservative background that are either veterans or active duty.
>>745825049
there's plenty of morons on 'both sides', namely because there isn't any real difference.
>>745824791
the plan is get the usmilitarycucks to fight some bullshit like iran so they can bring over UNmilitary to do the deed
>>745825377
>very well organized groups and militias
But not one with a workable plan.
Remember the Oklahoma city bombing? You know what happened after it?
FBI infiltrated both Michigan and Montana mlitia. In a matter of just months, they had members moving to Canada to escape harassment. Literally caused people to lose jobs, homes, family, buried them under a mountain of traffic fines and civil court cases.
I would not be surprised if half the militias in America has FBI agents moled in them. They know the names and addresses of every member. They know exactly who to pick up or who to blow up if anyone tries anything.
Your shit was check mated two fucking decades ago.
>>745825829
No, you're delusional if you think the tyranny will take the form of tanks in the streets and open hostility. We live in a country where the top 1% own more than the bottom 90%. How is that not cause for revolution? Because you're all talk. You won't do shit, as the government incrementally takes away your rights and works to protect the few with influence.
>>745825314
Lol kid logic is funniest logic
>>745825606
you're correct that the military force was quickly swept away. a force that is easily identifiable by the clothes they wear, and where they stood. however the war was supposed to be on terror, and i can tell you from first hand experience that america did not win that war.
>credentials
owner of a GWOT medal
>credentials don't matter this is the internet
I know, and it makes me a little sad.
>>745825387
Seven years ago handguns were banned where I live, carry of any kind was a felony, and a widespread registration system was in place. The ban lost in court, we took carry in court, and the City gave up on registration.
I'm a doctor in Chicago, what am I going to do about it? I'm going to continue to put thousands of dollars a year into lobbying and litigation organizations. I'm going to continue buying arms and ammunition to strengthen the industry as a whole. I'm going to bring people into the gun culture. Donald Trump has been a fucking boon, you have know idea how many of my previously anti-gun dark and queer friends are applying for carry permits and buying their first weapons now. They aren't going to give those up.
What I'm going to do is continue to create a political climate and widespread gun culture which makes it virtually impossible to marshal the resources or political support necessary for an erosion of gun rights.
>>745822984
Would you rather get bombed to death with empty hands or do you wanna take a shot from the ground if you're gonna die anyways?
>>745825741
hey man, life is hard when your military speaks 4+ different dialects of arabic.
>>745825114
>i-it's all b-bullshit!!
What a solid reply. Brush it all under the rug so you don't have to deal with it or address any of it. Pretty standard for you, I imagine you wouldn't be able to hold your political opinions if you had the intelligence to engage content with any measure of critical thought.
It's basic math. No army on the planet can invade an hold the United States with the 2nd Amendment intact, even it's own.
>>745826047
This. You can't organize because we live in a surveillance state. Only lone wolves worry the government, but of course what they can do alone is limited.
>>745826081
Why do you think there's a big push to give police forces military equipment?
You might not see tanks unless shit really hits the fan. But you will see APCs in the streets in your lifetime.
>>745825752
I haven't revolted yet because I still think civil discourse and civil disobedience is an option. this may blow some peoples minds, but most gun owners and 2nd amd. people aren't particularly interested in killing people. however when firearm ownership is gone there is no ultimatum that can be offered to a tyrannical government. at that point we become like north Korea, we become sheep able to be slaughtered.
This happened yesterday my boss was getting gas, only white guy their. Some nigger walks up to him says "i have been blessed today, so lord please keep me from killing this white devil" then he lifts up his shirt to show his gun. Boss just stops pimping gas then leaves. This shit right here is why it's good to carry. And I live in TX
>>745826254
And what will be done about that? Absolutely nothing. The all talk radical gun owners will let it happen, because they are all really big pussies at heart.
>>745824171
>Glock and Wesson 45mm
Gets me everytime.
>>745826330
Half of those gun nuts want a stronger police force. "To kill all the niggers", they think.
>>745825954
exactly, the vietcong survived so long because they were legitimate badasses. and those mother fuckers knew how to dig a tunnel and lay a trap.
Useful for shooting antifa scum.
>>745826330
Your extreme rhetoric only belies your own radicalism
>>745826435
The other half have t shirts with McVeigh's face on it.
>>745824045
We had them on the ropes until Johnson suddenly decided to pull out.
>>745826453
They survived because they fucking lived there. They had no choice. We killed nearly 10x the number of VC as they killed in American troops, and that was with one hand tied behind our back. We left because we could, and because there was no point being there in the first fucking place.
>>745826173
I challenge you to find the camera in your house that makes you unable to invite a few friends over and plan a ku.
>>745826502
>no, you
Great comeback, Cletus.
>>745824055
It happened slowly and those who noticed sounded crazy or like idiots to everyone else living in what is practically a utopia by past
>>745826608
>plan a ku
>ku
>>745826142
True. Honestly if they could organized the various countries of the middle east could kick some ass. But they lack training and organization.
I read something about it a while back. But basically they are terrified of information leak, so there is horrible communication and chain of command. Also they tend to keep things to themselves instead of seeing the military as a hole, partially to be seen as "the guy who knows what is going on." So people will listen to him. The who situation is fucked.
>>745826635
Past standards*. Basically living in America for people with the ability to effect that sort of change was good enough that erosion of freedoms wasn't a big deal.
>>745826435
that's a very broad generalization, and and extremely rude accusation.
>>745826608
Try every smartphone on the planet. And they can listen of they want to as well.
>>745826539
We had to pull out, we had no win condition. At best, we could have leveled the north like we did in Korea but there was nobody to administer the territory and no reason to stick around. We got sucked in to show Russia our dicks.
>>745826728
We got baited, damn ruskies
>>745826576
The US should have heeded France's warning. But WW2 and the Korean War blinded US gov't and military leaders into thinking no one would put up a fight in their own back yard for an extended period of time. But Vietnam has had to fight for a looooooong time to hold itself place in Asia. The US basically kicked the hornets nest, where every hornet was willing to die for their home. (Obviously excluding the southern Vietnamese, as the US were "helping" them.)
>>745826047
That's just the point though. First of all, they're better organized than you're giving them credit for, Second of all THEY DON'T NEED TO BE. You literally cannot win a land war with an entrenched and well armed group of people that doesn't want to be controlled. You can occupy and march the streets for years while your troops die and it won't matter the second you leave. Again, look at history and all the many other points I have made that "check mated" (lol fucking neckbeard) you several other points ago. Your argument that the american people can be subjugated by OTHER AMERICAN PEOPLE, is retarded.
>>745826081
Um, you're delusional of the conversation apparently. Look at OP's comment, and look at the person I was responding to. The discussion was about people not needing guns because the government has tanks, But ok, sure let's talk about your thing because I can destroy you too. Since, your argument against the second amendment is asking me why I haven't revolted against the government yet?? lol like..
It's not cause for a revolution yet because I have a house, healthcare, good job, two cars, a motorcycle, and several firearms. Because the system IS FUCKED and we all know it, but also life is pretty goddamn good and I'm not about to destroy all of society when there are chances and ways to fight corruption peacefully. Because revolution means fucking shit up far worse than it currently is.
The second amendment is another check and balance in the system of government, it is the final tool that the people have in case things get fucked up. But in practice, I'm sitting on 4chan at work right now arguing with you, and you're sitting masturbating to hentai - are you really asking why hillbillies aren't burning down your neighborhood right now unironically?
>>745826576
true they lived there, but they were also badasses in their own right. yes america killed a lot of VC but i think 10x is a bit of an over estimation. we did have a hand tied, but we left because the war was not popular. and the reason to be there was the massive refugee influx that america got in the 80's and 90's.
>>745826539
Regardless of winning or loosing thousands of United States troops were killed in an extremely bloody conflict.You cannot win a guerrilla war.
>>745826608
you can't plan aku
he is unpredictable
>>745826790
Then they did the same thing in Afghanistan. A cynic might say that both sides just wanted to sharpen up a new generation of brass while doing some R&D.
>>745826519
BTW, I know about
>>745826047
because I went to h.s. with Terry Nichols cousin Randy. I was friends with a lot of the guys in the Mi Militia even though I wasn't a member.
It's also how I know they're organization sucks beyond "get together, shoot some caps, drink a few beers".
I keep telling them they need to work closely with **local** law enforcement to keep the peace. The public needs to see them as the rescuers, peacekeepers, and all around good guys against an ever more bloodthirsty govt. But they never listen.
Fucking Taliban came up with the same idea and they're now a world spanning organization.
>>745826719
first off conspiracy theories are for the willfully ignorant. second off if you know about the cell phones what's stopping you from storing them in your fridge while you plan. ya dingus.
>>745826846
We killed 444,000 of them (not including civilians) and they killed about 58,000 of us
>>745826664
>plan aku
>>745826932
>first off conspiracy theories are for the willfully ignorant.
And this denial is how they catch you.
>>745826920
They don't need to do anything other than hoard guns and get new folks into shooting. We're winning the official way. The last thing we want right now is some militia going all Bobby Sands and upsetting our momentum.
>>745825173
Having a gun is upping your security
>>745825933
Have you not been paying attention to the last 16 years or so, where guerrilla armies aka terrorists have got steamrolled every single time.
A tank rolling down your street won't give a fuck about you in your window. Modern armies train for and fight in urban combat.
>>745826870
lol ku, fair enough. coup*
>>745824471
I don't get I just see nigger written twice
>>745826844
Dude, when they know the name and address of every member - all they have to do is pick them up or blow them up. Now you have a militia with zero members.
Trust me, all their so-called "safe houses" and "rally points" are known. There's nowhere they can go unless they go hide in the woods forever. Good luck winning a war that way. At best, the remnant will be merely a nuisance.
>>745826983
>we
>>745827059
You're pretty ignorant if you think we have won any of the wars you're referring to.
>>745824300
Seems to be workin' fine in a lot of shit holes countries like North Korea...
>>745826621
That wasn't even a no u you uneducated urban redneck
>>745826539
Conflict interruptus
>>745827059
Let me ask you one question: do you think there is any piece of domestic policy about which JP Morgan cares about enough to endure a disruption in the US like Syria is currently experiencing?
>>745826983
well, if you say so. i'm not gonna tell you it didn't happen i guess. it still just seems a bit high. either way though, you gotta admit though, that a military armed with a bamboo basket, a machete, and a rifle did pretty fucking well for what they were up against.
>>745822984
Call up bombers.
Bomb citizens
Citizens pissed
Everything that goes in and out of military base gets shot to shit by hundreds of small arms.
No bombers fly.
Government attempts to remove arms from people.
100x more arms held by citizens than willing government functionaries to collect them. Bad job. High mortality rate.
Civil wars are ruinous.
>>745826664
I deserve that slap. alas grammar was never my stronk point.
>>745824698
Let me paint your tiny brain a scenario. A huge nigger shows up at your house to seize your virginity. Just out of the blue. Knock, knock -- open your asshole.
Do you:
A. Comply, all the while shitting your pants
B. Get down on your knees and cry
I'm guessing A, but feel free to lie and say B.
>>745823738
Yes but the British didn't know the terrain and the US used geurrila tactics and lots of itger shit like that, it's not the same at all. And implying all the military would help a tyrannical takeover is false
>>745827131
Right, but once you do that you start seeing resistance. A couple of dead cops on the news and suddenly folks in the inner city realize that laws are just suggestions and that you can get away with damned near anything if you push hard enough and don't stick around after. From there you have widespread unrest and billions in lost productivity.
Even if you never have a rebellion, you have the wrong kinds of people losing too much money.
>>745825173
>option 1: spend a bunch of time and money upping security in your house (provided you own a house and aren't renting a place and can make the "improvements")
>option 2: spend about 300 max for a decent pump action shotgun with ammo once at a gun store
Buying a gun DOES make your house more secure smart one, and it's only dangerous to the burglar.
>>745824300
>F-17
I agree with what you're saying but do your aircraft homework. You're making the rest of us look like jackasses.
>>745827054
If your group (whatever group it is) has over 25 members, it is already infiltrated by the FBI. I fucking guarantee it.
Which means they know every active member, if not every member and every person who ever contributed. You have to assume this if you're ever to survive more than 2 days if shit hits the fan.
This shit is routine now.
>>745825387
Only a retard believe nsa myths. I'm sure there's a lot of gay frogs in your backyard too
>>745827146
>North Korea
>An Armed Populace
why can i repost that slapping meme.
>>745827131
>>745827131
You don't need to "win", again read many other responses in this thread you are missing the entire point! You literally cannot subjugate a guerrilla force, especially when you are asking *people* to bomb their own friends and families.
You seem to be arguing from the stance "the government is all knowing omnipotent unstoppable and there's nothing you can do so just give up your guns". Which is silly for three reasons: 1. Because the government is obviously retarded and inept and inefficient at everything it does 2. It fails ALLL of the time. It can't even hack an iphone or stop black lives matter from destroying their city 3. This is the big one, the government is made up of american people.
>>745827138
People are ignorant to think some hillbillies with guns stand any chance against an army.
Political reasons are behind NATO not finishing the job in the middle East, the US got it's oil so it stopped giving a fuck too.
You don't need to kill every cockroach to know that you could.
Most of you guys should read up on "Titor's war", it details a lot of shit that seems to be coming true. And he details how it all descends into civil war. It seems more and more likely every day - despite the fact that Titor himself has to be a fictional character.
Vietnam war is a shit example. The Vietnamese were getting slaughtered by America. Eventually there wouldn't have been anyone left to fight. However anti war sentiment in the US finally convinced the government to take the loss and leave. If the US people were the target they could keep pounding away until there's no resistance.
The best defense is the soilders themselves. Would they really turn on their own people? I don't think so. Now if robotic soilders become reality we fucked.
>>745827544
Oh shit, you're right ! Was jsut thinking about the tiranny verus people, in general
>>745827346
>ps on the news and suddenly folks in the inner city realize that laws are just suggestions and that you can get away with damned near anything if you push hard enough and don't stick around after. From there you have widespread unrest and billions
well, it's dangerous to idiot gun owners too. i'm on your side but when they removed gun education from public school they really did a dis-service to the populace.
>>745827439
My group? Son, I'm talking about the NRA, SAF, ISRA and the like. Of course the FBI knows what we're doing, its public lobbying.
>>745822984
Soldiers have no problem mowing down their own families.
>>745822984
do you even hijack bro
>>745827261
maybe if the media reported this more we would have fewer burglary attempts
>>745827643
>when you are asking *people* to bomb their own friends and families.
The won't.
There's plenty of people in red states who would love to bomb the shit out of blue states. There's plenty of niggers who would love the shoot up crackers. There's plenty of southerners who would just love to flatten some northern cities.
Especially when all they hear is how these enemies are baby killing, hospital bombing, school raping anti-government terrorists.
You have no fucking idea what people are willing to do when they think they have the moral right.
>>745827740
yea, there's a lot going on in north korea that I don't think this thread is ready to unpack. but seriously the north korean military (the average conscripted soldier) has barely enough firearm training to load the gun.
>>745822984
should open jets and missiles and war ships for public purchase
problem solved
>>745825865
>the US military won't attack its own citizens
Two words... KENT. STATE.
No?
How about two more... OPERATION. NORTHWOODS.
nb4
>muh mental gymnastics on how it's "different"
>>745827913
They did report it, dumbass. And then it came back for a second round when the parents of the robbers tried to sue the shooter for "overkill"
>>745827652
You should read through this thread. You have no idea what you're talking about. You sound like a prowar because video games are cool 16 year old.
The American army is made of American hillbillies, and you think they would march on their own homes and, what, kill every last "cockroach"(read: american hillbilly's family and friends) to the last?
You must be pretty fucking retarded if you think the american army killing every single american means that america won the war.
>>745828017
That was on a very small state. What do you think of they dropped a bomb in NY city just to kill some rebels. Any support they did have would be gone
>>745828017
You're citing an isolated incident that resulted in only 4 deaths and a proposed false flag operation that was never even carried out as evidence that US soilders would willingly bomb their own cities?
U dum bro.
>>745826330
Well, at least they ar pussies with the option to revolt. Good luck revolting without a gun
Tfw your tyrannical government lost to a bunch of rice farmers
>>745822984
>knife
your government cant push the button if you disable its hand
>>745827314
Let me paint your tiny brain a scenario. A huge mob of BLM protestors and remnants of the Black Panthers show up at your house to seize your racist life. Just out of the blue. Knock, knock -- dindu squad on patrol, cracker.
Do you:
A. Comply, all the while shitting your pants and wishing you weren't such an edgy, racist faggot
B. Try to fight back but let's be honest you're some kid and wouldn't do shit
I'm guessing A, but feel free to lie and say B.
>>745827756
I agree, if the owner doesn't practice proper safety with weapons and their an irresponsible person it could end up bad for them.
It's why I used a shotgun as an example of what to purchase, it's relatively easy to figure out the safety, how to load it etc and ammo is cheap and easy to practice with.
>>745825153
>m'lady
>>745828160
>forgetting Northwoods was proposed by the military and the only reason it didn't happen was because Kennedy said no.
right so last post before i leave this shit storm
from the left we have:
>soldiers are without any thought
>only rednecks support the second amendment
>gun owners are all pussies (the irony)
>tanks win wars
>lock are impenetrable as long as you have enough
>gun owners WANT to shoot people.
from the right we have:
>there are no stupid gun owners
>i want a tank so bad (really though i can't say i blame you)
and from the crazies we have:
>a camera in every room
>the NSA is omnicient
>the us infrastructure can be taken down with some chewing gum and a paperclip, macguyver style.
if i missed anything forward it to some other anon. but i got to say the right beat the shit out of the anti-firearmers
>>745827920
You're assuming it's the liberals who will be in revolt here.
It won't.
>>745822984
All this tells me is you're a dipshit who doesn't actually understand anything and has not put any serious though into such a situation as open rebellion in the US. It would be long and fucking bloody and only an idiot would thing otherwise. You just don't like guns and think this is a valid argument as to why we should just ban the things, it's not.
Anyways the second is VERY useful. It's not just about fighting tyrannical governments. Defending your life, liberty, and property from Tyrone, Cletus, and Paco is just as valid as defending yourself from some attempted American Stalin or Hitler. If Yogi decides my entrails are more enticing than my picnic basket he's going to eat lead instead thanks to the second amendment. Pretty soon here I hopefully will be getting myself a good month or two of the finest meat on the planet courtesy of the second amendment. There is also no nation on earth that could hope to win against the armed populace of the US in a hostile foreign invasion. "Rifle behind every blade of grass" may supposedly be a misattributed quote but it is absolutely true. Every able bodied male 17-45 is legally considered militia according to US law.
>>745828466
Who else would propose a false flag operation with future military actions at stake? Craig from the Home Depot?
And there sure as shit is a major difference between a top secret plan that would be carried out by a small number of highly loyal military personnel and all out fucking war waged by your average Joe.
>>745828491
Pretty much.
>>745827920
The won't?
Sure, oh absolutely. But you're saying an absolutely tiny minuscule portion of the population that wants to "bomb" some other minority of the population, is evidence that the army sworn to protect america will willingly and without hesitation wipe americans off the map... that seems reasonable to you?
And, it's not like those people really want to do that. I mean, by and large they don't. Obviously, you can tell by the fact that they Don't every day.
>>745822984
>A bunch of rebels up in the mountain
>Vs the full might of the united states military
>mfw we still have troops in afghanistan and iraq
>>745828017
Well, remember Kent State was a complete fuck up that almost led to outright civil war and was a major step towards ending the war in vietnam as public opinion quickly shifted..
It's apples and oranges. I mean, I believe the government was behind 9/11, but it's not quite the same argument as "The American military will willfully march through the streets killing American civilians" yaknow?
>>745828677
The civilian armies were on somewhat equal footing back then. Tanks, fighter jets, bombers and the like make it less of a fair comparison.
That said I still believe in the 2nd amendment because you should still have the right to go down fighting.
>>745828153
>>745828160
>>745828619
>muh mental gymnastics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiskey_Rebellion
Where the military killed tax protesters.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonus_Army
Where the military killed veterans. (TOP KEK)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blair_Mountain
Where the military killed striking coal miners.
>>745824055
The 2nd Ammendment was put in to reassure state with lots of slaves that an organised militia would be permitted to be used to put down rebellions. Then in the 20th century people decided to reinterpret it.
>>745823867
>being this european
>>745828654
They will do as their generals tell them to do. Because refusal means charges, prison, and dishonorable discharge.
Besides that, the military has an extremely effective propaganda arm. They believe what they're told to believe. And they WILL be told they have the moral high ground.
People who think they have the moral high ground are capable of damned near anything.
>>745828677
This is exactly why I say the military should concern itself with flattening, rather than policing. Fuck that door to door bullshit when you can just blow the fuck out of all the doors.
Something that all you noguns faggots should probably realize, all it takes is one grumpy ass fudd with his deerslayer 9001. It's not that much of a stretch to go from 4 leggers to 2 leggers and one well placed bullet can change the course of a nation in an instant. Never underestimate the power of one person with a hair up their ass and a rock in their shoe.
>>745826859
This. We fucked up the Vietnamese regulars and the Viet Cong. We fucked up their Chinese voluneteers. We fucked up their Russian advisors. We turned the whole country into a god damn whore house.
Yet we lost because they had the willpower to keep going.
>>745828844
>what is afghanistan?
>what is vietnam
>yfw you realize that more americans are armed, willing to fight, and able to fight, than the entire populations of afghanistan, and iraq, and vietnam, combined.
a military could never hold the united states without consent of the people.
>>745828889
None of those examples being even remotely close to "Hey GI, could you go ahead and kill your friends and family for me and then level your own home? K thanks!"
You're a paranoid loon.
>>745828491
It's like you're reading a different thread entirely.
from the left:
>I don't have an accurate worldview or forgot all of 8th grade history class
from the right
>the american military won't round up and genocide american citizens
>the american civilian population is the largest armed force in the world
from the reasonable people
>andriod cell phones have microphones that record and cannot be turned off
>snapchat is used to create a face database
>the US infrastructure can be destroyed by 2 well placed bombs outside of coal plants
ftfy
>>745828844
>Tanks, fighter jets, bombers
All tactically useless in an American Civil War scenario goddamn do you not even read?
>>745828927
Holy fucking shit this revisionist history is starting to get terrifying
>>745828927
Let me guess, you also think Republicans are nazis and Trump is literally Hitler.
>>745829086
Again. In both of those wars the Americans only "lost" because anti war sentiment back home made it impossible to further justify the war. America was absolutely slaughtering their opponents in both engagements. If they had committed long enough eventually there would have been no one left to fight.
>>745828142
What the fuck are you actually talking about.
The hypothetical situation is retards that are allowed to own guns Vs a tyrannical government, which also implies the armies are willing to take part.
You know like most other tyrannical governments where their armies slaughter civilians aka their neighbours. America isn't some special snowflake like you think it is.
If Russia rolled up to America right now and the government and active servicemen didn't intervene your second amendment wouldn't do shit to stop them.
Army > rednecks
>>745828969
I agree with you, we should have nuked mecca 16 years ago.
Said the US during Vietnam
>>745829044
The lone wolf is the only threat the US govt. should fear.
>>745829112
>thinks a rebel family in a rural home can't be blown to bits from 30 miles away.
>rural home == no collateral damage.
Why give them the chance to shoot cops?
>>745828969
And why would the generals march on their hometowns? Who is going to arrest the army? The other army? Military coups have happened many times in history.
People who think they have the moral high ground are indeed capable of doing damned near anything - which is why i'm wondering why you assume the military will kill their friends and family so readily after you keep getting blown the fuck out.
Oh, you think the military should "flatten" america. Because without any americans left, america wins? That's your win scenario? Just kill everybody?
>>745829112
God damn do you even comprehend? I was literally just pointing out that the arms difference between the two isn't comparable. Im of the belief American soilders wouldn't turn on their own.
>>745829233
Russia doesn't have a large enough army to land invade the US, even without the US army. Nobody does.
>>745829098
>American citizens is now friends & family
Moving the goal posts so soon?
>>745822984
>the 2nd amendment is literally useless in todays world
US citizens have an incredible number of firearms and God only knows how much ammunition. Far more than the US Army.
>>745829312
>rebel family in a rural home
They'll be in your cities blowing things up there.
>>745829196
You imply we couldn't totally demoralize our own military? Some one has to be there to supply the arms.
Not that it matters, i mean, now we put Trump in the white house, most of the Americans will be fighting on the same team as the USA military, we'll go to the coasts, go door-to-door, and root out communists together, then drag them off to the firing squad. It'll be great.
>>745829409
I...don't even have a response for how fucking stupid this is.
>>745829312
Thinks a "rebel"(read:true american) family inside of an apartment tower that just wants to go to work every day that the government doesn't even know about can be flattened by a bomb.
Like, what do you think america is? Look up how many firearms there are in america, and then double that number for how many are unaccounted for.
>>745824045
lol a undeveloped country with a populace who didn't want the americans there with almost none exsistent public records, if the american government wants to fuck american citizens up they can just look look up where you live and come to your house and shoot you.
>>745822984
the government can't destroy its population you retard or do you actually believe the god emperor would want to reign over corpses and burned ground?
>>745828116
u didn't understand my post
>apologize now
>>745829233
>retards that are allowed to own guns
You do realize that is most of the country right? We're talking well over 100,000,000 people, probably getting close to, if not over, 200,000,000 people. All you have to do to own a gun is be 18+, not a felon, and not be involuntarily committed to a mental institution. That is a fuckton of people who can own guns.
You're an idiot and really ought to fix that before trying to discuss this further.
>>745829320
He'16 and aroused by power. Never mind the real life consequences.
>>745829320
Nope.
Cities will remain locked down unless you figure out a way to get all the niggers to chimp out at once.
Otherwise, it's going to be all the govt. controlled cities Vs. the rural anarchists. And when that's the case, it's nothing to just flatten farm houses rather than trying to storm each one.
But this is the military, so they'll insist on storming each one - until the bodies start piling up. Then they'll look to use APCs and tanks to destroy the buildings with those who resist still in them.
This is the most likely scenario.
But still, you'll have the stupid military thinking they should go door to door. Largely because they're too stupid to blow shit up from well out of reach.
>>745829589
If you're interested in looking at US demographics check here: https://www.census.gov/popclock/
The US population is huge.
>>745829424
Lol no, the US military has over 500 million firearms, roughly 125% of all the firearms in america (including those of the US military).
>>745828275
I will never understand why they took this small part of the book and made it this weird
>>745829581
Hello, OP here.
Do you even know what tyrannical means? The goverment dropped two nuclear-fucking-bombs on civilian cities without being classified as tyrannical by 2nd amendment faggots.
>>745829409
Are you from the US? Congrats, your friends & family are American citizens... like wtf are you talking about?
>>745829904
Why the fuck would they have 500,000,000 guns when they only have ~2,100,000 people total including reservists and desk jockeys? Are you counting ancient milsurp they got rid of years ago or something?
>>745827261
kek "broken arrow"
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/broken_arrow
>>745829583
Ah, I missed a word in the reading. I'll give you half an apology, it was rather widely reported, and everyone kekked when the parents tried to sue, and then it disappeared.
>>745830027
>not understanding that they mathematically can´t have 125% of the firearms
>>745822984
well since the 2nd ammendment is really 2.5 million people armed with military assault rifles, many of whom serve in the police and military, i'm pretty sure the military would side with the citizenry and kill the fucking politicians ruining this country
and it would be about fucking time
fuck the democrats
fuck the republicans
we need to start the hell over
>>745829970
2nd amendment faggots are not opposing the government
you are implying that they can't oppose it which is plain dumb, it is completely irrelevant wether they consider it tyrannical or not.
also i might remind you that japan does not have an equivalent of the 2nd amendment not that it would have mattered anyways
>>745829589
How many of those people would be actually willing to form a militia and shoot people, very few of those 100 million.
How many of those have trained to kill people, make bombs, know guerrilla warfare and tactics.
But your right a few hundred thousand spread across the entire US taking pot shots at tanks are gonna stop a government.
Pretty delusional there buddy.
>>745830014
>every American citizen is your friends & family
Really nigga?
>>745830161
Lets be honest here anon, you know I didn't even get that far into his post.
>>745828299
i'd pull out my jammie and squeeze off 6
>>745829715
How old are you? Seriously. Just curious.
The military isn't going to flatten neighborhoods full of the people who grow their food, make their bombs, and supply their troops. The troops aren't going to kill their families and friends. The military ARE the civilians. The civilians ARE the military. What don't you understand about this? Unless the government can "lock down" a city(they can't), and hold it locked down for 3 generations of babies to be born and raised until the occupation is all they've ever known (they can't), while somehow also removing all firearms from every person in that city as well as the countryside (they can't), then there will never be victory - if you can even consider this a victory.
Also who is gotta decide whether Government is tyrannical or not? Some hick from Alabama lol?
>>745830220
Not to mention anyone who does start taking pot shots at tanks and shit will be immediately labeled a domestic terrorist.
>>745829911
Verhoeven is a socialist scumbag that wanted to make soldiers look bad. He failed.
>>745828927
If you actually believe that you might need ro get your head checked, you've been brainwashed anon
>>745830314
>implying the military thinks of itself as civilians
>implying this isn't an integral part of military indoctrination
>>745830220
Dude, you must be from Europe and have never visited the states in your life. If you actually lived here in USA actual (not in the horribly democrat shitholes) you would think very differently about this.
Anyways to get a more accurate picture of US demographics see the link here: >>745829762
It's estimated around 3% of gun owners will take up arms. ~100m is the gun owner population notoriously biased anti-gun sources claimed in early 2014. 3% of 100,000,000 is 3,000,000 rebels, not a few hundred thousand. That's 1,000,000 more than the entire US military even including reservists and fat desk jockeys.
Most of us shoot human analogues for fun every saturday. Bombs are easy shit and you can literally buy them in sporting goods stores now (exploding targets rule). Elmer Fudd and his merry band of RealTree bandits are the scariest god damn thing for the same reason Simo Häyhä was. Imagine even a few hundred thousand white deaths running around murdering you as if you were a big buck. Instead of shooting the biggest rack you shoot the one with the most stripes or brass.
>>745822984
As much as I hate to admit it the Vietnamese showed a motivated force can defeat superior fire power.
>>745825085
Let's just leave out the part about the old USSR funneling a shit ton of resources in to North Korea.
>>745830847
I should also add that's assuming there's little to no defection among the military in this situation, which is hilariously unlikely.
>>745822984
also the american revolution, also afghanistan resistance to russia, also the korean war.
>>745822984
what is guerrilla warfare open a history book kid
Why is everyone here assuming there's going to be some sort of heroic revolution where the guntards overthrow the oppressive chains of government?
A tyrannical government has nothing to win and everything to lose from waging war against itself. No, what'd happen -and what's happening- is that the government slowly takes away the populaces independence and will to revolt. The monitoring, the lack of education and government regulation on the extortionist healthcare system, the middle-class consumerism, the poverty. It's all for the purpose of keeping everyone happy and divided, even though we're getting monitored, even though the gov't is doing dumb and evil shit behind the screens. Rights are a farce, you only get as many rights a you need to think you're free, to think that hanging on to twenty guns will somehow make you the right-wing hero your country needs.
This is a war we can't win, this is a war we've already lost.
>>745824593
>implying it isn't the US who's supplying the mexican cartels with guns
>>745830847
You just hit a couple of military bases.... then the third one you hit hits you back with the full force of everything they got. You're left a pink stain to be washed away.
You might be able to get away with hitting a couple of military bases. But then the party will be over and they'll be waiting for your ass. All your numbers won't mean shit when they open fire.
You can't win a frontal assault, anon. Guerilla warfare in the countryside, the suburbs, and small towns is all you got. And when you use guerilla tactics, you're the bad guy. You might not think so, but they'll use everything to turn hearts and minds against you.
>>745832214
Your terrorists are our freedom fighters. >>745831333
Holy shit a trip, fuck me please.
>>745831739
Thanks Obama
>>745831700
>and government regulation on the extortionist healthcare system
Quit reading right there. Nothing but conservitarded talking points. If you think it's all about govt control, then you're too stupid and intellectually lazy to do anything but bleat out what your corporate masters tell you to bleat.
Go ahead and keep listening to your corporate masters' talking heads, anon. That's apparently the only way you'll ever have a thought in your head. Better their thoughts than no thoughts at all, I suppose.
>>745832293
Yeah, I remember the last bunch we called 'freedom fighters'.
They attacked schools, hospitals, rural clinics. They tortured, maimed, and killed private property owners.
They started their campaign by assassinating a well loved bishop, and ended their campaign by torturing, raping, and murdering two nuns and a priest.
Yet, we called them 'freedom fighters'.
>>745822984
Protracted guerilla warfare is proven to be highly effective against modern military.
So, who would win? Likely the gun nuts. Once the Federal government began to fire hellfire missiles from UAVs with their typical 98% failure rate, resulting in massive collateral damage to civilians, the gun nuts wouldn't have much problem finding local support from the populace.
I hope that shit never happens though.
>>745832214
You're a real dumbass aren't you. I'd continue this but holy fuck, I might as well be discussing ARs with a kid who's only experience with guns is CoD.
>>745832654
Even if it happened, it would be plastered all over the news as terrorists scorched earth policy. You would never know the difference unless it happens near you.
>>745831700
You're confusing human ego with a masterplan.
People ignore other people and pursue their own benefits if it doesn't have any meaningful downsides for them. Being good, doing the right thing just doesn't pay off very well. A clever, ethical correct machine would do such a task well but a human being will always get bored or greedy and start exploiting a system, poke it for it's holes to exploit those too. Doing the same thing all the time, doing well and as reward not being noticed is just dull and disappointing.
>>745832859
Idk man, we do have the internet. I'm pretty sure you'd have people tripping and posting videos of their family that got blown to shit by a stray missile.
>>745832831
Yeah, your puny rifles are somehow going to take out APCs and tanks....
Holy shit you're fucking retarded.
>>745824698
99% of the time, it will be A. It's that 1% that keeps the feds from going full retard. Thoose agents want to go home at the end of the day, and they don't want to get killed trying to make some politician happy.
>>745832980
Pic very related
>>745833073
fuckin wreckd
>>745822984
Multiply image 1 by 300 millions.
>>745822984
You're assuming that all military personel would turn on civilians. I highly doubt that. They are Americans with friends and family that they would want to protect.
>>745832975
Half of Rural America still live with dialup. Just 30 miles north of Detroit and people live their entire lives on dialup. The whole US net can be cut by taking down 5 major hubs in the US. Just walk in and shut them down your internet won't be able to connect more than 100 miles from you.
>>745833073
Tell that to this dweeb.
>>745830847
The scenario most likely to succeed is if millions of people simply quit paying their federal taxes. They can't imprison everyone all at once, and they can't use military force against such passive aggression.
Well, they could, but that would really make them look bad.
>>745828600
This is so gay that it has to be copy pasta.
>>745833540
I'd be talking to myself dipshit. Where the fuck did I ever say to go out and engage gods damned tanks or pull frontal assaults on their bases? That was you moron.
>>745833663
>Instead of shooting the biggest rack you shoot the one with the most stripes or brass.
And where will you find these stripes and brass? At the hardware store???
fucking kek.
>>745833780
Have you never seen a military uniform in your life? Worst case they take their ranks off and stop saluting.
>>745833540
Regardless, the support of even those locals would be enough to keep the resistance going. You can't keep the lid on shit forever. The government isn't all powerful, it is proven on a weekly basis. There is also the issue of having a military made up of people who hail mostly from rural America being sent in to wage war on their own by the feds. Shit would not go down. These are human beings in uniforms, not robots.
And don't try to come at me with some of that drone bullshit because that program is a proven failure. It is rare that they even hit their targets.
>>745832440
Samefag, I actually meant "The lack of government regulation on the extortionist healthcare system."
I mean, hey, $150 for a paper cup filled with water is a good price, right?
>>745822984
Right. And sandniggers with AK47's are still fucking up our military. And gooks with rifles kicked our ass.
>>745824045
>Greatest military in the world
>>745822984
Forgetting one outnumbers the other a 100 to 1.
>>745829911
What book/movie
>>745825571
God people are so fucking ignorant. Theres the NVA and the VC. The VC was virtually destroyed after the Tet Offensive.
Misinformation and ignorance.. and you wonder why public support for the war fell through.
>>745823867
>thinking your safety is the government's responsibility
Hell, its been decided in court that the police actually have no duty to protect you
>>745834699
Boku no Pico
>>745826144
This
>>745829512
>>745832412
Say what?
>>745823867
When seconds are the matter between life and death, it's good to know the police are minutes away.
I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy.
>>745826144
If the rest of the world were still living in the 1950s like you are, that would be true.
But instead, your bloated milirptart leaves the world with only one option: Extermination, and small arms aren’t going to save you from biological warfare.
The US can most definitely be invaded, amendments and pea shooters or not.
>>745824295
Gun owner here. This guy's right and the rest of you faggots know it.
>>745824045
We were weeks from winning. The NVA had terms of surrender written up. Thanks to our liberal media along with Hanoi Jane we pull out early and hand them a victory.
>>745822984
Holy fuck you're retarded lmfao.
>>745822984
It's more about the right to protect your family and property from others now
>>745823815
this
>>745836004
I protect the protection of my home, which I own, alone. Plz somebody shoot me. Plz man, I'm waving a gun at you - don't leave me... like everyone else *bam*
>>745824698
Thats why mine are "undocumented "
>>745822984
lib cucks love to spout this shit
they are worst than nazis when it comes to "sharing" their opinions
>>745828275
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhJd6pFUT6s
>be me
>live in mississippi
>be a time where black lives matter doesnt exist
>have a ww1 mauser with a butcher blade bayonet (g98)
>be sitting on my couch chilling at night oiling my baby
>hear door open
>*click* goes the bayonet lug
>run up on this nigger and stab right through his right side puncturing his kidney
>not get arrested because of stand your ground law and castle law
