Discussing why people even bother getting into relationships anymore in 2016
Normal relationship
PLUS
-Emotional support
-Love feels like fucking drugs
-Regular pussy, at least the first years
-Deemed normal and established in society
CONS
-Have to spend a lot of time and money on her
-Must remain monogamous
-Can't expect the same from her
-She will always be comparing your relationship to those of her friends
-Shit tests increase over time
-Nagging, unnecessary drama, have to be an emotional tampon
-Always pushing for more (living together, kids, "what are we", etc)
Casual friends with benefits
PLUS
-Pussy pretty much on demand
-Can fuck multiple women (in fact most women like a man who gets laid)
-You can easily replace girls in the rotation, thus no drama
-Don't need to have daily contact
-Enjoy each other without politics or further obligations and expectations
-You can make fun of friends who get sucked into their gf's drama world
-Total freedom, no one to have to take into account
CONS
-Sometimes have to dump girls because they get feelings
-Can make you feel empty inside
-STD's
tl;dr: With the price of pussy being at an all time low, it's madness to get into a serious relationship and indulge yourself in the mad and drama filled world of women. Keep relationships on your own terms and voila, best of both worlds.
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>>715166714
Wish I had a bigger domestic wives folder
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>>715166903
Truly the dream
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>>715166359
Shit tests have actually decreased over time. And over time she cooks for me more and buys me things.
You attract shit women. That's on you.
>2 posters
fuck off OP stop being a beta fag and become a Chad already
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>>715167248
![4632358-housewife-washing-dish-at-the-kitchen[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/J7MQbtJ.jpg "4632358-housewife-washing-dish-at-the-kitchen[1].jpg")
>>715167011
what happened tho
>>715166359
Why would you complain about someone wondering if you're having kids someday?
What are you a whore who just wants sex? You complain about women not being monogamous and yet don't want long term. Make up your fuckin mind kid.
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>>715167314
Dunno, minorities probably ruined it
>>715167222
Nice trips. Any kids yet?
>>715167236
I'm not a chad, but I'm not beta either. That's better than most sadly
>in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king
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>>715167468
No kids yet. We both agreed to put a down payment on a house first.
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>>715167498
>cooking with oil/butter without clothes on
This has got to be the stupidest fucking thing Ive ever seen. I can't even enjoy the tits its so fake I'm widly upset. I bet you 5 seconds into it she got burnt slightly and threw a fit but did it for the instagram followers.
>>715167317
You don't agree we do serial monogamy instead of lifelong monogamy?
>>715167412
All the white people I know aren't getting married. I'm a pale mexican in med school with a fiance.
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>>715167412
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0xDiwhUCi0
>>715167615
Lel have fun when she makes you sell it below market value
>>715167706
Do what you need to do. But don't complain about cheating and then bitch when someone wants something long term.
It's completely moronic.
>>715166359
Perfect plan if you were going to be 22 forever.
>>715166817
What's with all the foil?
>>715167843
So a hypothetical situation is all you got? That's not an argument. I have a girl who doesn't fall into the category of the ex's you dated. Get over it.
>>715167844
I'm not complaining, I'm observing. Honestly now I don't care if girls sleep around because now I'm not monogamous myself. I could care less for the paranoia and jealousy that comes with every exclusive relationship
>>715167999
Nice trips again. Who knows maybe she's different than all the other girls you dated. But I doubt that. Also living together with a woman reduces your testosterone.
>>715167903
What's wrong with being "that uncle"? I'd rather be out canoeing instead of being at home whipped by my wife and working a dead end job to afford shit I don't need
>>715167011
>Mortgage of $200,000-$300,000 if it's a decent suburb and not some shithole in the south/Midwest.
>$120,000-$240,000 college tuition within the next 20 years.
>Only one working parent
Not to mention the emotional investment.
>>715168643
The American Dream
Good thing that im a white muslim and i would never see my woman like that i dont even need to date just ask my friends or imam for a girl and i will sign teh contract and go home fuck her how many times a day i want and then make her clean the floor lovingly and massage my legs then i sweetly kiss her to remind how mcuh im glad Allah send her to me
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>>715169217
That's funny because Europe is being swarmed by men who are not beta boys
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>>715169240
She will leave you after 4 years on christams
Convert to islam is the only way to get a good life dating is not right thats how you feel it
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>>715166359
Male 38 here:
Been in a relationship for 6 years with my woman and there are no pros... At least not with her. She doesn't fuck me, she doesn't blow me, she doesn't take it up the ass, she doesn't even sleep in the same bed as me. We're more like two people that just share the same living space. We don't even talk much anymore. When we're both home we generally are ignoring each other. I often wonder why I stay with someone like that, but honestly? I really don't care anymore. I think after awhile you just get "comfortable" being around them. I don't want to find anyone else. Dating just sucks the life out of you. I figure i'll just be with her til one of us dies or unless she decides to leave me. I've talked to her a few times over the years and suggested we split but she tells me she doesn't want to. So whatever. Women are fucking weird.
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>>715169348
Scared but think about it 4 obbedient wifes all wanting to please yiour cock and be pregannt to make islam grow no dating no shit only breeding and love WE FEEL DATING IS WROND THE CAHD IS THE DEVIL REAL MAN DONT DATE OR SEDUCE WOMAN THEY AMRRY DIRECTLY WITH HONOR ASKING THE FATHER OR ALLAH
>>715166359
>Casual friends with benefits
>PLUS
>-Pussy pretty much on demand
>-Can fuck multiple women (in fact most women like a man who gets laid)
>-You can easily replace girls in the rotation, thus no drama
>-Don't need to have daily contact
>-Enjoy each other without politics or further obligations and expectations
>-You can make fun of friends who get sucked into their gf's drama world
>-Total freedom, no one to have to take into account
>CONS
>-Sometimes have to dump girls because they get feelings
>-Can make you feel empty inside
This is my situation. No STDs though. She's admited to sleeping with another guy and it made me feel shitty, but then I got head from another girl and got over it.
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>>715169458
Messed up man. In all honesty you can probably do better than her. Or at least start again with a clean slate with other people. What I'm saying is you need to get away from the succubus and fuck someone new to reinvigorate your body
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>>715169527
Yeah the trick is to have a couple of them. Takes the pressure off, because you're confident you can get laid too
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>>715169458
>my relationship is shit
>blames the girl
says a lot about you pal
appreciating the bumping with eating girls anon!
>>715170033
Well she did manage to suck the life out of him.
>>715169217
Why date a woman that won't put out? I'm guessing they don't spread their legs until after marriage.
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>>715170111
It's what I picture it might look like to have a gf :)
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>>715169913
well she's also a really good friend now too, things are getting awkward. Kind of at the 'define the relationship' stage but neither of us want to do it. I don't really want a relationship but I don't want to cut her off because she sucks my dick. I guess you're right though, if I had another bang piece on the side I wouldn't feel so bad
>>715170211
Once they feel like they've got you by the balls they can stop pretending.
>>715169834
I honestly agree with you in a lot of ways. I know shes bad for me. She has taken the life out of me. I don't give a shit about anything anymore and that was never who I used to be. Years ago it used to bother me how she was.. In the beginning? Yeah we had sex, we talked, we hung out, we did shit together.. but after that first year or so? It just died. She doesn't want to leave me, i've flat out asked and even told her maybe we should so we could both try to find some kind of life and she got angry at that thought. So, I just stick it out with her. I've always had shit relationships though. I've never dated a decent woman in my life. The way I see it? At least this one isn't out there fucking 900 times a week because she genuinely isn't into sex. Shes 40 and has flat out told me she views sex as a chore and would be perfectly fine never having it. I know there is a possibility that shes out cheating, that's _ALWAYS_ a possibility in EVERY female you're with. But i've generally been a good judge of character, I get no vibes that shes doing that. I've been with her for 6 years, I know her signs, how she thinks, how she acts. I've caught her lying to me in the past a few times but again, I KNEW she was lying. I just vibed it off of her. I dunno. I know deep down I NEED to get the fuck away from her, I know shes toxic. I've just pretty much lost my drive in life. I don't really know how to get it back. I agree that she is a succubus, in the way that's shes just sucked the life out of me. I don't fucking care anymore and that kinda scares me. I wouldn't even know what to do if I went out and fucked someone else. I haven't had pussy in almost 3 years now. The saddest part is that i've gotten used to not having a sex life. It's fucked up... but then again, so is my life.
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Oklahoma
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>>715169636
can you .rar this folder and upload it please?
>>715170363
You're still a retard that subscribes to a laughable belief system. You probably have a two-digit IQ.
>>715169147
cringed
>>715170033
Calm down there feminist warrior and or white knight.... You don't know what i've been through with her over the last 6 years so don't talk as if you think I am fully to blame and shes innocent because shes not. Fact is, I'm not perfect. I never claimed to be. I don't FULLY blame her for my fucked up life, but a lot of it IS on her.. and I don't wanna get into all of that because it's personal and I this is /b/. So fuck that, but I can tell you.. she ain't fucking innocent by any means...
>>715170355
That's okay, there can be some gray area. Just keep chasing other girls and try to fuck one asap though. If you're mentally chasing other girls you're protecting yourself from getting oneitis. Unless you both want a relationship, whatever floats your boat.
>>715168115
If you're not complaining then why are you responding? I was specifically talking to someone who bitched about cheating then hated long term relationships. Your inability to follow is why you can't get a real woman.
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>>715168275
She isn't different from other girls I've dated. I've had many girls who knew what an actual equal relationship was. We just weren't compatible.
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>>715170747
No need, I've pretty much posted them all here. Starting to run out now.
>>715170385
Cringe bro. It's just so much she did and keeps doing. Guys in a situation like you are very prevalent too, that's why I'm trying to warn these anons here. The rattling of your cage serves as a warning for the rest. Please try to get out tho, whatever the cost. You'll be buying back your life.
>>715168490
Sure you would. Let's ask you again when you're 45.
>>715170525
GJ refuting the point
>>715170835
>that nigger in the back doublefisting natty lite ay lamo
>>715170840
At least I won't be stuck with a 45yr old fig
>>715170571
Shut your fat mouth.
You said you spoke to her about splitting and she simply said no. Are you a fucking lemming?
Do what you want. If you want to leave then leave. The fact that you're not happy is completely on you.
>>715170688
Define real woman and how to distinguish them from the rest.
>>715170974
You won't be with anyone. Get a cat now and accept defeat.
>>715171173
I already have a cat. Bitches love her.
>>715170837
I know it's cringe. Hell, I admit that it is. If I could do it all over, I'd stay single. Not just due to this one i've been with for 6 years, but ALL OF THEM. Women have really brought nothing into my life but misery. Long story I don't want to even get into, but yeah... if I could go back and do it over? I'd avoid women like the fucking plague and just make a life for myself. But... ya can't go back. Have to accept the cards you've been given. I know I still have the power to get away from her, but.. that's easier said than done. If you knew the situation, you'd understand what I mean.
>>715166359
>love feels like fucking drugs.
Have you ever been in a long term relationship or understand at all how they work?
The "fucking drugs" feeling is early on.
Longer relationships begin to change over to the attachment hormones oxytocin and vasopressin. They come with no high, but a heroine level withdrawal.
Aka after a few years you feel fucking nothing but if she leaves you you feel like you may die tomorrow from feels.
Also my gf doesnt cost much money. She makes lots of her own. We just chills smoke weed drink n fuck sometimes.
>>715170872
What exactly was I meant to refute? The fact that they put out once you've deceived them? I don't know if that's true but I don't really care. I'll just take your word on it. But I'm not going to become a retarded Mudslime piece of garbage and accept that the greatest human that ever lived and the one who should be my ultimate role model in life is a mass murdering pedophile, and that I should be forcing people to convert, taxing/killing people who refuse, that I can rape a bitch if she's my slave, that it's okay to fuck little kids, that the greatest way for a Muslim to die is dying in Jihad, I could go on. It's retarded. If you started waging jihad in my country and were force converting people, which would never happen, I'd honestly choose death.
>>715171161
Establishing from the rest is not something you're able to do. The common factor here is you. Real women have actual hobbies and interests. You can't find them. You can't attract them.
>>715171217
cats are literally the pet for autists
>>715171034
>The fact that you're not happy is completely on you.
As for NOT leaving her? Which keeps me miserable? THAT much IS on me.. I actually agree with you. I am a stupid asshole for not leaving. The worst part is.. I don't know why I stay.
>>715171217
What the bitches who you don't care about?
What an emotionally fulfilled life.
>>715171173
Nah, I'll be with a lot more people than someone who was stuck in a family unit bubble for 20 yrs. I'll have many hobbies, many friends who also have spare time and money, and I'll have rich experiences about the world. If you want a modest life with a family, you can do that. But in these times I deem it less stable than my own alternative.
>>715171335
I've had the drug feeling for about 4 years now. You just haven't been with the right people.
Learn to respect yourself and actually get a good job. Then you can actually open up with confidence.
>>715171433
I do care for them. We share affection, intimacy, sex. But we don't expect anything more than what happens when we're together. Actually I believe it's more honest than a traditional relationship where two people project unrealistic expectations upon another.
>>715171405
Why cats? Why not a turtle with a hat that looks like Sonic the Hedgehog's hair?
>>715171418
Yes. That's what I fucking said. You're a moron. Leave her if you're not happy. You might feel a little sick when she gets a new dude.
But think about your own happiness of not having to answer to her. Get someone new dumbass.
It's also not fair to her for you to stay when you don't give a shit.
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>>715171440
I love how you say you'll have hobbies.
That means you obviously don't have them now. You're not going to magically get motivated. You'll be alone and boring.
>>715171405
I never said I deem myself normal, but I'm pretty sure it's not autism. I have too much empathy for that. I am borderline hypersensitive tho, guess I see cues others don't.
>>715171571
So you advocate against long term relationships but pretend to feel true affection for girls you fuck for just a time.
You're not fooling anyone.
>>715169458
This is the fate of all long term relationships. I'm on my third 5+ year relationship and after the first few years women just shut down on you. Listen /b/ long term relationships aren't worth it. They just aren't. Don't stock with a chick for more than 2 or 3 years and you'll have a string of mostly pleasant experiences. Any longer and it'll just die on you and leave you wondering why you both even bother.
yes goyim
no relationship
divide yourselfs eternally , dont build families and let us conquer you when you`re feeling empty inside
oyyy veyyyyyyy
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>>715166359
I have a hard time believing that you're not some basement-dwelling edge-lord fingerpooping your insecurities in this vast echo chamber.
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>>715171842
You can't really regularly fuck someone without getting some kind of feels. But if your girls come back it's not for any perks you provide them like money, housing or commitment. They come for you alone. I think it's more honest than many traditional relationships.
>>715171862
Instead of crying, lead by example and make 10 beautiful whites for the next generation stormfag.
>>715172119
"Some kind of feels" is not actual affection you retard. Thankfully you'll never be in a long term relationship so you'll never know.
>>715171683
>It's also not fair to her for you to stay when you don't give a shit.
Have you not read everything i've said? And you call ME the dumbass... I've asked her on several occasions and even suggested we split so she can be with someone else. I've offered to leave with no hard feelings and she gets ANGRY when I bring it up. Also... SHE doesn't give a shit either, it's not just me. If you could be a fly on the wall here you'd see that for yourself. She acts as if I am non-existent 99% of the time. She never wants to do anything when I bring up stuff to do. She makes excuses. Hell, even when I try to show her affection she pulls away and always says "I'm not in the mood". So I stopped trying, you're damn right I don't give a fucking shit anymore. After years of trying to make a relationship work and getting CONSTANT negative feedback? You'd give up too. Yes, I am a dumb stupid fuck for staying, but I guess in the back of my mind I just don't want to start over. I've done it FAR too many times in my life. I'm an old fuck now and older women want SUCCESSFUL RICH men.. I am neither. I'm a basic guy with basic shit. Besides, I might be miserable in this relationship but at least shes not a gold digger. MOST women are. So I suppose that's ONE up side to being with her.
>>715166359
>Can make you empty inside
That's how it is until you've met your soulmate. Trust me this women you won't know what to do with her and then she'll ask you. And you'll know.
You'll know that you don't ever want to be empty inside again.
>>715172310
STOP
FUCKING
ASKING
HER
LEAVE YOU FUCKING RETARD
You don't care about her. LEAVE
>>715171850
100% correct. This is painfully accurate.
>>715171906
IDK I used to be a total beta but then I just snapped out of it. Stopped putting up with women's shit and I haven't been happier since. They're so used to wrapping every guy around your finger they can't help but be interested if they see someone who doesn't bite as easily.
>>715172405
I'm in a 5 year relationship and my girl still grinds her ass on me when she's horny. I'm fine.
You guys need to improve yourself.
Brush your fucking teeth. Get better clothing. Shower better or more often. Wear deoderant.
>>715172280
I had a gf for almost 5 years so I don't lack experience. it was a good relationship too, until she wanted me to double down and move in together/start thinking about kids
>>715172658
It was such a good relationship that you actively shit on long term relationships?
You're not fooling anyone.
>>715172575
I fully admit I stopped giving a damn about my appearance a few years back. She shut down on me and I stopped trying. When you're with someone that is never in the mood, and shows no interest, you give up after awhile.
>>715172310
Good. Now channel that primal anger to your succubus at home and free yourself. Reclaim your life, you still got some fight in you.
>>715172726
I don't think it can't be done, I just don't think it's what we as humans are designed to do. Everyone's always going on about the one while in reality everyone is just hopping from relationship to relationship. That's effectively serial monogamy. What makes you think that changes after marriage. Also if you're expecting your woman to behave honourable and support you trough good AND bad, you're in for a bad time in 2016. With all this tech there's an abundance of men better than you, instantly available.
>>715172756
Oh well. She got tired of waiting. Move on dude. Stop bitching.
>>715173178
I don't care if you think it can't be done.
You're shitting on long term relationships when it's obvious yours ended. We know why you're bitter.
>>715172756
It's not your fault. It always goes downhill, it never gets better again. You letting yourself go was prolly a catalyst but either way the relationship would have ended naturally.
>>715173367
Did you have any good experiences with it? I think it can be done, I just think the chance is very low in modern times. We're too wealthy so we become less dependant upon each other. This translates into more social contacts but of less depth.
>>715171344
Making some popcorn in the hopes the mudslime responds.
i just want someone to love me man
i dont even care about sex anymore
>>715173402
I agree. It always goes downhill sooner or later. And it's always the woman that changes. At least in my personal experiences. I've been in quite a few relationships in my life, 3 of them being over 6 years in length. And the woman always changes. Doesn't matter why or how, it just happens. Women are NEVER satisfied with what they have. They ALWAYS want MORE. It doesn't matter how good you look, how good you are in bed, or even how rich you might be. They are ALWAYS looking to upgrade. I've seen it first hand with my own eyes that's why I know it's true. Not only that, but guys like me that go through YEARS of this shit with women, we give the fuck up. It's inevitable. Women drain your fucking soul. I am LIVING PROOF of that fact. Not only that, but i've seen it before in other guys, some I know personally. It sucks... but what can ya do?
>>715174883
I love you anon. No homo
>>715175108
He doesn't.
>>715166359
the problem is not with relationship's, but rather men needing to take control of the relationship, but you just dont get respect it is earned
>>715175108
it made me smile atleast
thanks
>>715175077
See, that's it. She's always the one to change. All those men ITT are laden with good intentions. I'm sure they'll try to be the best husbands they can be. But there's another person also calling the shots. And expecting their woman to act equally as virtuous, is just asking for trouble.
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>>715175563
shes cute
>>715175563
She kinda reminds me of Candice Accola from The Vampire Diaries.
>>715166359
Those cons prove you know fuck all about women.
>>715170211
They definitely dish before marriage
Just have to break them walls down
>>715166359
>Normal Relationship
I've had relationships where the woman spends the money. had free trips abroad and overseas
you make her invest on you not you investing on her
>>715178544
I figured that one out now. Make her invest and she'll rationalise it in that you must be special, otherwise she wouldn't have done that. For girls it's also refreshing from all the beta asskissers who would pay thousands just to sniff her stale cunt
