o we can all agree that Trump was and is full of shit and that supporting him was just as stupid as supporting Hillary, right?
Everything that Trump was supposed to be better than Hillary on was wrong.
>Hillary's a hawk! She'll get us into more wars!
Well Trump has picked 3 hawkish generals for his cabinet and is already starting shit with other countries.
>Hillary is controlled by big banks and corporations!
Trump is putting big banks and corporations in control of our economy, environment and foreign policy.
>Hillary will abuse her position to help her cronies!
Trump is appointing his friends to important staff and cabinet positions that they're not qualified for, and in some cases not even interested in.
>Trump is a straight shooter, saying what he really believes. Not like Hillary, who has a public view and a private view!
Trump has not changed his positions or views on almost every single issue.
>Trump will drain the swamp!
He's literally doing what EVERY politician does.
Can we all admit that Trump was just a meme candidate and that his presidency will be a disaster?
>>715129934
No.
Trump was, is and always will be worse than Hillary
Imagine her cabinet - not full of billionaires who bought their place or proxies for oils and coal. Not full of people who have said they want to clos the department they now will control
Not full of climate change deniers
>>715130233
Hillary got more money from big oil than Trump. Sure, maybe she herself wouldn't have been a climate change denier, but she still wouldn't have done shit to fight climate change.
>>715130233
>crybaby detected
READ: LIBERAL
>>715131085
>you have to be a liberal to hate a terrible person
>>715131178
>he said mean things
>what a terrible guy
>>715131457
If all he did was say mean things then it wouldn't be a big deal. But he's proven himself to be an unstable, self-aggrandizing liar who is prepping to do more damage to our country than any president in history.
>>715131741
Please get your news from someone who isn't a nightly talk show host
Can't we all agree that this presidency is one of the worst? I mean hopefully Trump or ( if she would have) Shillary couldn't have done anything disastrous for the 4 years.
>>715131846
>Trump isn't actually appointing the heads of big oil and big banks to key positions or giving out important jobs to his stupid, unqualified friends
>that's just the media reporting fake news
What's it like being a complete retard who guzzles cock with a grin?
>>715129934
>millenials going through their first election
It's always been like this, long before Trump, and it's going to remain the same long after. It's the whole political system that's flawed.
>>715132206
>fake news argument
LOL
>>715132317
It's always been like this? Sorry, but that's objectively retarded. Trump is a literal meme candidate. I've been voting since 2004 and it's never been like this.
>>715132349
That's YOUR argument, fuckwit.
>>715130739
She would not have appointed anyone to close down NASA climate monitoring or to scrap the Paris agreement and gut the EPA.
Given that climate change is the single greatest threat to American economy, and security, (as judged by the Joint Chiefs). Trump's moves are nothing short of criminal and treason.
>>715129934
Fuck off shill.
>>715132541
Great argument.
>>715132541
>cant accept hes wrong so resorts to calling someone with a point a shill
>>715129934
Trump worse, says he was against Iraq war
Wants neo-con hawk John Bolton the architect of Iraq War in his cabinet
I'm just upset Russia is getting all the credit when it was /b that inflated poll numbers and got trump #trending to begin with
He could literally live stream himself getting butt fucked by a horse in the oval office and I would still be happy I voted for him over Hillary Clinton
>>715132847
>i'm PROUD to be retarded!
Neat.
>>715132847
Cause that vote mattered. Cause the electoral college had nothing to do with the outcome. All of you could of not wanted him. and it wouldn't of mattered sadly.
>>715129934
trump never said he wouldn't start wars
it's just that Hillary's plan was to be even more aggressive towards Russia, which would be bound to cause world war 3
>>715131457
Trump supporters are one fascinating breed of stupid. They think that people dislike Trump just because he is "mean", not because he is a scammer.
>>715132317
First voted in 1982.
And it has never been like this. The Republicans tried to disrupt things for Clinton (bill) by using spurious smears and special prosecutors to Harrass him, but they generally did their job. With Obama the rules changed and they just refused to do the job and tried to break the government
They said government is a bad way to do stuff, it should all be (money making for Republican) privatised and free market (i.e., open to abuse by the rich) and tried to prove that by making government not work.
Now they are uncontrollabled and will destroy government
Welcome to the free market - which means if you are poor you can go fuck yourselves and die. You don't count. Only money counts.
Any other year Trumps lies would have finished him - but the Republicans now don't care about truth, just money....
>>715132541
Need a safe space faggot?
>>715133070
you really have no understanding of the electoral college
>>715129934
I will agree that Trump wasn't the best but Hillary was far worse for the country. If Hillary wasn't running ad there was someone else, I probably would have voted for them instead. But not Hillary.
>>715133108
>if i move the goalposts then i will win
Nice try. Trump is antagonizing China right now. Russia was already our geopolitical adversary but Trump is bending over so Putin can fuck America in the ass while China is poised to become the world's largest superpower.
>>715133108
>implying we should bend over and take it up the ass from russia instead
>implying putin wont pull us all into ww3 for eastern europe, we'll just be fighting on the wrong side
>>715133126
its the polar opposite of the far left view of people only being against obama because hes black or only against hillary because shes a woman
>>715129934
>Trump is appointing his friends to important staff and cabinet positions that they're not qualified for, and in some cases not even interested in.
They all do that. You need to get out more.
>>715129934
I'd rather have business men and generals than career politicians who think they are business men and generals.
>>715133326
In what aspect would Hillary be worse than Trump? Hillary couldn't appoint worst people in her administration.
>>715133403
True
>>715133326
>trump is better because hillary was, uhhh...
>>715133108
Actually - if you bothered to look at what she said - she was always talking about negotiations and cooperation with Russia.
But don't let facts get in the way of believing Trump (and Putin) lies
The Russians wanted Trump because he is a pushover who will give them what they want - not for the good of America
>>715133070
I'm "the retard" for voting trump, but you post this...wow. You don't really understand how this works do you?
>>715129934
If supporting him was just as stupid as supporting Hillary, which it does seem to be, then weren't we equally screwed either way?
>>715133435
They all appoint people who have literally said they aren't interested in and aren't qualified for such positions? Ben Carson literally said he can't do the job.
>>715133435
But that's what Hillary supporters said of her! "all politicians do that". Well wasn't he supposed to drain the swap?
>>715133197
It's like spoilt bratty kids crying "my turn, my turn. Mom, he's breaking things". Then they get to play and break things right off the bat. Then the grown ups have to come and clean shit up. Then they start doing it all over again.
Fucking inbreds.
>>715133589
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOipY6BJK_8
Go suck a dick mate
>>715133197
trump's cabinet is like opposite day. he picked the people who most want to destroy their appointed cabinet position, but only the one's who paid him the most.
>>715133462
Because businessmen and generals have gotten everything right? We have the last economic rash and ISIS because of businessmen and generals.
>>715133677
Screwed in different ways. Trump would poison your water if it made one of his buddies a buck.
>>715131457
And this why intellectuals (the minority in this world) shift left.
The right has nothing of value to say or contribute to the converstation at hand.
Trump will be one of the worst president if not the worst
Can't wait for war with China.
>>715129934
>fills his cabinet with banker kikes, career politicians, and special interests (the swamp)
>wall is now a fence
>not deporting illegals
>not getting rid of Obamacare
>confirmed Russian collusion
>not jailing/killing Hillary
>>715133832
>using inforwars as a source
>>715133850
"Pay to play politics"
>>715133900
hell, the first and the last are already confirmed. its not too long until the rest fall in into place. the 46th president will be elected in 2020
>>715133900
He just sold MAGA to the plebes. He's a career swindler
>>715133867
>Trump would poison your water if it made one of his buddies a buck.
Considering what's going on with Obama signing off on pipelines left and right, that keep leaking in to our water supply, and how long it's taken for Dems and Repubs to clean Flint's water I doubt either party is above poisoning us for their own or their friend's benefit
>>715133736
>the grown ups have to come and clean shit up
this has never happened in the history of government. a politician is just a celebrity who has no talent.
>>715133435
No they don't
He is appointing people who paid him to get the opportunity to further enrich themselves by raping public services and pocketing the money by privatisation
Plus people who work for big oil and coal to close the EPA and git interior and climate change prevention
This is not normal. It is not in any way similar to what any previous president has done, and not in any way similar to what Clinton would have done.
The old "they are all the same" shit is not applicable
The new Republican Party under Trump is the robber Barron party, for billionaires
No comparison to progressive Democrats
>>715134165
oh that was never a question, people just believe trump is above that, but hes not
>>715134086
The only one that isn't confirmed is the wall not being built since Trump has waffled and then doubled down.
>>715134165
What universe do you live in? Obama has been blocking half a dozen pipelines for years and it was Republicans that poisoned Flint. The democrats in Michigan don't even have any power to do anything to HELP people because the governor was given authoritarian control over every level of state government.
>>715133900
cant fucking believe any one retard would think he wouldnt scam them. Like he has scammed every person he has met. Its like those abused women who think "this time he will change"
>>715133900
trump supporters go on about George Soros owning Hillary and ignore Sheldon Adelson owning Trump
>>715134176
When was the last time baby boomers actually helped other generations and not themselves? They fucked the future generatio and still brag about being better because they get to fuck future generations.
>>715134176
Bill Clinton and Obama has to come in and clean up the Republicans' messes. Clinton fixed Reagan's fuckups, then Dubya came in and fucked everything up again. The Obama fixed most of Dubya's fuckups, not here comes Trump to fuck everything up again. Trump will literally triple the debt in 10 years if he gets what he wants.
>>715134442
They also ignore Soros' buttbuddy Steven Mnuchin, AKA Trump's Secretary of the Treasury.
>>715134566
the worst part is, since he will cut education retards will still blame democrats somehow and blindly vote republican.
Sure OP, we can agree with you and make this thread a safe space for you. Trump iz bad and says mean things.
>>715134165
The democrats had nothing to do with Flint, that was the republicans who wanted to cut taxes and thus had to cut expenditures.
>supporting him was just as stupid as supporting Hillary, right?
so you'd rather have another 4 years of watching the welfare abusing parasites be the majority in america,just like the past 8 years? no thanks,go ahead and support your liberal women you wanted for president,i wont
Why aren't the mods moving this thread over to /pol/?
>>715133677
False equivalence
Supporting Hillary was never as bad. Hillary would not have been as bad.
America would survive Hillary and so would the world. Trump may kill the planet. His climate change denial is very dangerous
>>715134739
No one here criticizing Trumo has said anything about him being mean. Read more, don't be lazy
>>715134873
>t. Hill-billy
>>715131457
>list of reasons
>>he said mean things
>being this dense
I didn't like Shillary or the Jew but you Trumpfags are worse. Constant shitposts and triggered responses.
>>715134721
I live in south carolina, and most people, even teachers dont give a shit about education. My mom is one of the only teachers at her school that has ever voted blue because they would rather get rid of abortion than get paid. These are public school teachers getting paid by the state, mind you
>>715134858
Welfare abusing parasites? Like the military? Or people put into welfare because George W. Bush bankrupted this economy?
>>715134165
>dems and repubs to clean flints water
>implying repubs are going to help another welfare abusing democrat city
no thanks,i have better things to do then care about another poverty ridden leftist shit hole
>>715134957
Ok friend. Let's work together to make this a stronger safe space!
>>715134868
because the cucks on /pol/ would BSoD at the sight of people besmirching their bull
>>715134739
>i'll buzzword the fuck out of you for making me feel stupid for supporting a stupid candidate!
>>715135017
>George w bush
im sorry but democrats dont have a clue how to run a successful economy
>>715133462
Because government is a business for profit that sells to the highest bidder and... oh no, that is business.
Government is not business. Being a good hotel builder does make you fit to be President
Being an oil executive with billions in oil shares makes you unfit to be EPA head...
>>715135017
easy to spot the communists
>>715135055
>I'll project my insecurities onto you to make you feel stupid for making me feel bad!
>>715134858
The bankers and corporations told me to hate poor regular people, so maybe if I do so they won't think I'm one of them.
>>715134858
But you're making up bullshit. Stop being willfully retarded.
>>715129934
Doesn't matter! It's still funny, lol.
>>715135042
>BSoD
Explain this new term please.
>>715135154
>>implying anyone would be ashamed to be a communist
>>715134868
/pol/ is literally the worst board to discuss politics.
>>715135127
would you like to try again?
>>715135017
but thanks for insulting the military,they'll remember it when your begging for there help when the right wing militas are coming to your town and shooting you left wing retards dead on sight
>>715134739
Safe spaces like the ones Trump cry for on twitter?
>>715135239
blue screen of death
>new
>>715135127
maybe not but the republicans have shown they cant either. you cant deny though that economic recovery is well done in the hands of democrats
>>715134868
They were just lazy at first but now its the ads. Same reason there are three ylyl threads and seven feminine penis threads in the catalogue
>>715133126
OMG and you don't think Hillary is a scammer. You need to pull your head out of your ass and wipe the shit from your eyes. Did you know she was actually selling favors to Islamic countries for her own personal gain. Her "charity" Pays her daughter 600K a year and it's a "non-profit". Do you actually think in your own retarded ass mind that all those terrorist countries donated to her "charity" out of the kindness of their heart and they actually reported everything?
>>715134176
Actually... Republicans fuck it up, Democrats clean up, but it takes eight years, people are bored and stupid so vote for Change (i.e. Republicans) and off we go again
>>715135282
its funny how the only source of information you can ever get out of democrats are bullshit pictures and not actual facts
>>715135127
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCB6RvRojIQ
>>715129934
THAT IS SUCH A CUTE PHOTO OF TRUMP HOLDING TWO LIBERAL JEWS
>>715135363
some of the fastest growing citys in america are located right in the middle of republican states,while some of the citys and states that are the most poverty and crime ridden are the ones who have been under democrat control for generations now
>>715135483
It's funny how republicans will literally ignore reality if they don't like it, no matter what.
>>715135483
Yeah well anything we dont like IS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS!!!!!
Leaked incriminating documents? FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS!!!
>>715129934
>Well Trump has picked 3 hawkish generals for his cabinet and is already starting shit with other countries.
Totally the same as voting for the Iraq War guys! Believe me.
>Trump is putting big banks and corporations in control of our economy, environment and foreign policy.
So no different than if Hillary won? Wow, I really regret my vote for Trump now.
>Trump is appointing his friends to important staff and cabinet positions that they're not qualified for, and in some cases not even interested in.
Same as before. No change
>Trump has not changed his positions or views on almost every single issue.
I thought the anti-Trump bandwagon was claiming he flip-flops on every issue, you know just like Hillary and Obama did. Oh wait, they didn't flip-flop, they "evolved" on their positions right?
>He's literally doing what EVERY politician does.
So why are you whining so much? Congrats, you're a whiny little bitch like most of your bandwagon.
>>715135523
the problem with democrats is,they think citys that have filed for bankrupcy like detroit are successful economys.which they arent
>>715135254
/pol/ is the ultimate Jew trigger
>>715135395
>You don't like Trump so you most support Clinton
Fucking Trump supporters are worst than SJWs . . .
>>715135254
I thought /b/ was because OP tends to samefag when he starts losing the arguments.
>>715135639
its funny how democrats dont even live in reality
you want some reality? take a look at your local ghetto neighborhood.now lets walk around and see how many of those people have voted democrat,if they cant run there citys successfully they cant run the country successfully
>>715135483
Because they are retarded and refuse to see the truth. Just like when the DNC told tham it doesnt matter who they voted for they were going to make Hillary the winner regardless. So they all showed how retarded they are and didn't give a shit when the DNC smacked them in the face with their dick and shoved it down their throat. They just smiled as the DNC cum shot into the back of their throat.
>>715135579
Because it's not like the poorest states are Republican, right guys? R-right...
>>715135395
>talks about Hillary's charity being shady
>doesn't mention Trump using his charity to buy portraits and statues of himself
wonder why?
>>715135718
You are literally retarded.
>>715135771
>Goyim, we can all agree that Trump was and is full of shit and that supporting him was just as stupid as supporting Hillary, right?
Everything that Trump was supposed to be better than Hillary on was wrong.
>Can we all admit that Trump was just a meme candidate and that his presidency will be a disaster?
>>715135846
without republicans,you wouldnt be getting any welfare checks.because democrats dont have jobs to begin with
have fun when you left wing people wake up to that reality
>>715135292
>every american is a hardcore sjw or /pol/tard
>implying either of those fatass fags would be active enough to leave their trailer, dorm room, or mom's basement to start something
wew let's all go shop at Wal Mart, amirite. Burgerland numba one
>>715135718
The problem with republicans is that the economy does worse every time they are in control
>>715135807
then why is it that nationwide economic relief efforts made by democrats are so far more successful?
>>715133718
Do you actually believe everything? I don't. I just didn't want a cunt that has no understanding of how to handle classified information and that was actually selling this country to the highest bidder.
>>715135807
>republican states don't have ghettos
But OTHER people don't live in reality? How do you even remember to breathe?
>>715129934
The liberal, snowflake, SJW, butthurt is so delicious. I'm so glad there will be at least eight more years of it!
Ivanka 2024
>>715135959
top kek
wrong again
>>715135893
>its only shady when Trump does it
>>715135579
>implying Mississippi,Alabama, Texas, Nebraska . . . Don't exists
>>715135292
Nah, they will be joining the right wing death squads - brainwashed idiots
Why does everyone laud the military- full of dumb niggers and failures who couldn't get a real job, trained to kill their fellow men, and fetishising the flag and the politicians
Fuck them. Why should,d we spend half our GDP on them and their toys?
Not electing a fucking Putin puppet would have been a better move than spending another billion on bombs for fucking up schools in Yemen
>>715133582
Trump is just less dangerous than Hillary. It's like having a choice of being in a room with a rattle snake or a starving Lion.
>>715135685
>the point
>your head
Way to go! You're retarded!
>>715135579
Okay.
>Cows shit in grass and your lettuce is green. Lettuce and grass are plants. That means there's cowshit on your lettuce
Thanks anon very eye-opening
>>715136215
>call your opponent a retard and you'll win the argument
lefty logic
>>715136139
But that's what you did, dipshit. You slammed Hillary for maybe doing something that Trump definitely did while ignoring that Trump did it.
>>715136155
>implying that detroit michigan isnt a city ran by democrats,neither is california,chicago,etc
there are more successful states and citys ran by republicans then there are successful citys ran by democrats.good luck pissing away in your ghetto neighborhoods for another 4 years with your thumb up your ass and then wonder why the next election your party just lost even bigger then they did this year
>>715136139
see >>715135776
>>715135959
pic related
>>715133531
Yes she would have. Obama has put Muslims with ties to the brotherhood in high positions in government with High security clearances. Hillary also wanted to appoint another Supreme court judge that would help her make it virtually impossible to own a weapon while letting more terrorists in the country.
>>715133126
Not even president yet, and you're highly triggered.
Trump already doing great things.
Real Americans don't care about your hurt feelers. Suck it up, buttercup!
What do you guys think OP looks like? My guess is this.
>>715134346
I'm still trying to find out why people believed that about him
>>715136427
Actually that was someone else. I only responded to you, my triggered little snowflake.
>>715136083
>the meme candidate?! i'll show you!
Nice meme, bro.
>>715133403
So you're stating that a personality characteristic is the same as race and gender?
>>715136502
>Trump already doing great things.
>can't name a single one
>>715135959
The unemployment was higher when Bush left office than now that Obama is leaving, you are literally making up facts.
>>715129934
People who voted for Trump wanted the middleman cut out of being fucked over.
They no longer want puppets holding up any pretense, rather their masters have unfettered access and control.
The rich have bypassed the burocracy of separating political and economic influence. One does not need buy the other anymore, one will help to augment the other without smokescreen or intermediaries.
>>715136451
But the actual facts prove you wrong. I know Republicans hate facts, but normal people know that facts are actually proof.
>>715136655
He's making people like you rage, bitch and whine which is fucking hilarious and entertaining.
>>715133900
>Implying its his job to indict Hillcunt
Why indict her now? So that worthless Obama can pardon her?
Liberal idiot.
Trump has done more in a fucking month than Obama has done in a year. And he hasn't even taken office.
>>715136214
If you actually believe that you are clinically retarded. Trump denies climate change, puts people in charge that also deny climate change, bends over for Putin who is trying to take over Europe, and antagonizes China.
>>715136639
no, its the fact that the republicans whine about people only hating trump because hes "mean" but at the same time democrats claim people only hated obama because he was black or hillary because shes a woman. Both sides do the same thing, and then act like when the other does it its an issue
>>715135292
>taxes asshole, their salary
>>715136048
No I didn't believe him, but I have a problem with politicians lying to their people which is exactly what Trump did. Throughout the campaign I kept saying that Trump was a scammer and I got called a shill, now that he is proving me true all those people are saying "oh yeah we knew that already".
>>715136347
When your "opponent" can't read, calling them retarded is only fitting. You're retarded.
>>715136925
>promises to lock her up
>reneges on promise
>"hurr u r librawl idot"
>Trump has done more in a fucking month than Obama has done in a year.
>can't name a single thing
>>715137032
And you're projecting.
>>715136629
Soon to be true.
>Cry mor pleberal
Your tears are filling are dry lakes.
>>715136801
So he is just a meme candidate then?
>>715136625
>i was only stupid half of the time
...
>>715137169
Can I do anything else?
>>715137144
>Trump hasnt been sworn in and yet I want the results of his presidency
>>715135685
So Hillary voted for the Iraq war, after the President and his crooked friends lied to her, and provided fake and distorted intelligence (which the CIA disowned and said was fake) to convince her, and 79 other senators to support them.
And I know you we're too young to Reiner this, but just about everyone in the USA supported the President.
Fast forward, and Hillary finds out it was fake and Colin Powell lied, and so did the President (Bush, you won't remember him but he was a lying corrupt toe rag who made billions for his friends by declaring war and bankrupted the country)
So Hillary apologised and said she regretted her vote.
No other senator has done the same.
Fast forward
Now you want to make out that she is a war Hawk?
But you wash out the bit about her regrets, about the lies, the other 79 senators and the congress and the President that lied To them and pursued the war?
Fuck off. You lying cunt. Fuck off with your rewrite of history. FUck off with your unfounded libel Fuck off
>>715137277
Ask your mother before posting online.
>>715136113
>Florida
I refuse to believe.
>>715137202
Yes. This was established on this website over a year ago.
>>715133367
>being this retarded.
>>715136451
>there are more successful states and citys ran by republicans then there are successful citys ran by democrats
List them
>>715136457
A bit of Truth for you Liberal dumb ass.
Owsley County is a county located in the Eastern Coalfield region of the U.S. state of Kentucky. As of the 2010 census, the population was 4,755, making it the second-least populous county in Kentucky. The county seat is Booneville. Wikipedia
Area: 198 mi²
Founded: 1843
Population: 4,654 (2013)
Unemployment rate: 8.1% (Apr 2015)
Largest city: Booneville
Cities: Booneville
Rivers: Sturgeon Creek, Road Run, South Fork Kentucky River, More
Did you notice it was a coal mining county where all the jobs dried up because of the democrats decisions?
>>715136113
Post link from tax foundation.org
>Can't
So map is drawn up bullshit.
>>715137286
YOU said he's already done more since the election than Obama did in 8 years, fuckwit.
>>715137169
>i don't know what this word means but ive seen people use it before
>>715136790
>facts meme
Notice how Jew tricks have emboldened these liberals to believe that anything they say as "fact" is fact?
>Science, since people must do it, is a socially embedded activity. It progresses by hunch, vision, and intuition. Much of its change through time does not record a closer approach to absolute truth, but the alteration of cultural contexts that influence it so strongly. Facts are not pure and unsullied bits of information; culture also influences what we see and how we see it. Theories, moreover, are not inexorable inductions from facts. The most creative theories are often imaginative visions imposed upon facts; the source of imagination is also strongly cultural. [Stephen Jay Gould, introduction to "The Mismeasure of Man," 1981]
>>715137298
Can you delete your post and try again? Your sentence structure is fucked all to hell like your typing in rage or something.
Also, why are you defending Hillary so much? She is and will forever be a warhawk.
>>715137144
>Hasn't taken office
Already doing work, son.
Hence the term, businessman.
>>715137506
>I hate being called out so I'm gonna pretend to know more than you
>>715137202
Sure, kid
>>715137524
>facts are now a meme
Wow. You republicans really are as stupid as liberals say you are.
>>715137435
Can you show me where I said that because its hard to tell who said what without IDs. You know like what they have on /pol/, that place that you're so afraid of?
>>715137298
>what is syria
>>715136639
Your question makes no sense. You are literally too stupid for this simple conversation
>>715136518
my guess is he looks like this
>>715137435
>Typical lib. Doesn't read
I said in one year fuckface.
>>715137574
>trading your whole lunch for crumbs
>what a great businessman!
He's already fucked us. Now every company knows they can get whatever they want from the government and still send most jobs overseas anyway.
>>715137676
he cited fucking Stephen Jay Gould, and he was not a republican
>>715137676
>Facts are not pure and unsullied bits of information; culture also influences what we see and how we see it.
tldr; Renown Scientist >>>>>>>>> You
>>715137725
>i didn't say the dumb shit!
>i just ignored that the dumb shit was said so that i could say my own dumb shit!
You're not helping your case. Either way you're a fucking idiot. So did you say the initial dumb thing or are you too stupid to look at the initial post to know what the fuck is being discussed?
ITT: all the triggered libs.
My sides will be non existent for the next eight years.
Thank you President Trump
>>715137725
But anon, you're being hypocritical by pulling his statement out of context whilst arguing yours has been pulled out of context. He replied to an anon who said he's done more in one month than Obama has in 8 years. This sounds to me he's referring to feats in the American political system. He asked for proof and then you state that it can be proved cause he's not been sworn in. I gotta stop coming to this board, the fuckin idiocy and circular logic will put me in an early grave.
>>715137861
>>715137919
Uhhh... >>715137524
>facts meme
>>715138009
>i'll be laughing so hard while my country goes to shit because i supported a meme for president!
>>715137421
>A bit of Truth
>Population: 4,654
>Unemployment rate: 8.1%
>Total Unemployed: 377
>coal usage in decline for over 100 years
>utterly and completely fault of liberals
cry me a river
>>715137421
Well then they should move and start working instead of sitting there and collecting government checks.
>>715133900
>wall is now a fence
Literally said in his last couple of victory rallies that the wall is still on the agenda.
>not getting rid of Obamacare
He's said since at least February that he's in favor of keeping the preexisting condition and parent plan provisions.
>>715138253
>thinking the country will go to shit because I didnt get my way
wew
>>715137731
Syria is a civil war in which russian backed Assad is murdering his citizens. Added to it I should ISIS, who are bad bastards, and half a dozen other groups, including Kurds, Druze and al Quaeda.
If you read Hillary's emails she is very cautious when recommending action and does so in order to minimise the slaughter. She shows her deep concern about Syrian civilians and her understanding that Russian interests must be met, and cooperation achieved.
She isn't a warhawk
But don't believe me - read her emails.
>>715134417
I think Trump supporters are finally realizing why everyone thinks they're fucking idiots for believing an obvious scam artist
>>715137999
I saw your stupid shit and decided to make fun of you. I'm loving your rage btw. Please continue.
>>715138443
>>715134417
Obvious samefag
>>715137785
No douchebag, everyone is typing this and that out of rage so their statements aren't coming iut clear. The way anon responded it sounded as if they were stating that disliking Trump for being a scammer is like people who dislike Obama for being black or Hillary being a woman. I asked a question for clarification cause I didn't want to jump to conclusions like you do when your cum guzzling sewer slut of a redneck sister tells you she's hanging out with your dad so you assume she's cheating on you. Anon however, answered my question in a civilized manner here
>>715137011
>>715138009
I have my calendar marked to come back on the 19th. I want to see the same faggot cry, bitch and moan about how everything is going to shit because Trump is hurting his feelings.
>>715137861
Yeah, but out of context to support an idea that Gould would spit on
Typical Republican tactic - misquote and misuse science to support unscientific lies
>>715137524
So instead of removing your cultural presuppositions to better understand facts you decide you are just not going to listen to facts?
You don't understand what that quote means
>>715131846
I hate this fucking argument. It makes no sense whatsoever. Any news outlet gets targeted by this bullshit. So it begs the question, where should I be getting my news from? Where do YOU get your news from? Some stupid ass conservative blog? Or are you just pulling shit out of your ass?
>>715138261
>>715138261
Yes actually. With the NAFTA that was established by your goddesses husband the pedo Bill. As the coal industry declined no new businesses or companies were around to take its place. So yes in a sense it is their fault. Also making it out to be a big metropolis like Detroit that has been democrat controlled for over 50 years and is in even worse shape than that little county
>>715138317
>He's said since at least February
>implying Trump hasn't waffled heavily on the subject often stating a complete repeal of Obamacare
>implying he didn't say it as recently as November
>>715138445
>i said dumb shit that made me look dumb but i win cause le ebin maymay
Neat.
>I don't know shit about politics or government but I act like I do the thread
>>715138308
>>715138308
Most have. Some are too old and are unable to afford to move.
>>715129934
Alright how about this.
You wait for him to actually do something instead of speculating what will happen.
It's almost like I did the exact same thing once Mr.Magic Underpants lost the election to Muh Minority President.
>>715138747
Whatever you say kiddo. Hows the narrative pushing going? Change any minds yet?
>>715138646
The quote means you're fucking stupid for presenting your CONSENSUS IDEOLOGY as objective, unsullied truth.
You post to which this is a reply to further indicates that you seriously believe bias and cultural influence apply only to everyone else.
tldr; go fuck yourself retard you don't know what ANY of this means
>>715138726
Detroit was NEVER a big metropolis, hillbilly, and Detroit's problem is the same as "Coal Country's" problem, you dumb dildo. It was built around a single industry and then that industry left.
>>715138726
>377 have lost their jobs since 1994
>world crisis
>your goddess
>pedo Bill
>making it out to be a big metropolis
>Detroit
wew lad
>>715138713
This
>>715138746
>Wants to ebolish Obamacare
>Wants to keep the part that doesn't allow insurance companies to deny people coverage with preexisting conditions
TRUMP LIED YOU GOT SCAMMED BTFO
>>715138918
>being the biggest retard means i win, right?
How's being a master ruseman on 4chan working out for you? Making the big bucks?
>>715138909
He's already fucking everything up. His cabinet picks, his bullshit deal in Indiana, his faggotry for Putin.
>>715133398
>fighting on the wrong side
Do you even understand how the human mind works? fucking zozzle
>>715136518
>>715137793
Ran out of argument material, so it's time to insult OP's possible appearance. Nice.
>>715139109
>TRUMP LIED YOU GOT SCAMMED BTFO
Thanks for reiterating my point?
>>715129934
You're not wrong. It's just that anyone who voted for Trump already has issues with facts and thruthfulness, so they're not going to change their minds now. They'll gloat though, like sports fans, because they think elections are all about bragging rights and getting to call you a faggot.
They're why America can't have nice things.
>>715136801
>Fuck up a country just for laughs. How fucked up in the head are you?
Oh wait, you're a underage retard.
>>715138726
Detroit is fucked because American car makers were complacent and criminal in their lack of care about safety, economy and cost. They drove their industry into bankruptcy and left a mess behind.
And then took the money they had left and poured it into the Far East
Big business fucked Detroit. The Democrats have been. Trying to repair it, but actually they need either new business to come in or for people to just go somewhere else
It if republicans had been in control it would be bankrupt and with no public services, and the republicans would be richer.... and the poor would be without any hope education health care or clean water.
>>715138630
This. Also, the way anon is trying to quote Gould is hypocritical. He saying facts are a meme but then he is taking this excerpt from Gould as fact to proof facts are a meme? What do I know though, I'm just a doctor.
>>715138713
I actually watch multiple media outlets especially those outside the US and take in direct footage of the events to form my own opinion. i dont watch the stand ups to be informed i watch them to laugh.
what i see is trump is hiring unpopular picks that seem like they are outsiders but have intimate knowledge on how to manage money. which is exactly in line with what he said he would do. now whether or not they will be bad for the US economy depends. it looks like they will be antagonistic to rival economies like china.
>>715138443
>>715138792
Seems to me that they should have planned their life better.
>>715129934
When are you shitheads going to just stop bitching?
>>715139495
Oh, so you're full of shit.
>>715139595
Stop bitching about current events? When you shitheads all die and stop fucking everything up.
hey there's a law that means people who are felons cannot be president?
if so how come either candidates were even considered?
>>715139711
Because neither candidate was a felon?
>>715133677
>thinking trump was the lesser of 2 evils
>>715138337
Fool, it's not about "getting my way". Fucking Jeb Bush, Romney, McCain, any of those retards could have been voted in and the asshurt wouldn't have been this epic. It's about not fucking up the country by dismantling government from the inside and then starting shit with the rest of the world. People aren't upset they lost, they're upset their president-elect is a bumbling jackass. I wouldn't expect some closed mind retard like you to understand that, though.
>inb4 wahh
>inb4 liberal
I've never picked sides in this shit toss of an election process, but even I know Trump is a retard. Everyone knows this and if you deny it you're just as bad as the niggers that riot when the cop that shot little Trayquon get's rightfully acquitted.
>>715131846
>>715138713
>>715138605
>Wall street since November 9th
>>715138966
>there are more successful states and citys ran by republicans
You quoted Goul (out of context) to not have to prove this. So until you prove this then you are just shitposting.
>>715139821
Hilary's emails
Trumps tax evasion
>>715132085
Hurrr durrr I'm voting for trump because even though i hate both candidates, I'd rather trump win than hillary and no way is any 3rd party winning hurrrr durrrrr
Look at what you"ve gotten us into
>>715138746
Anyone that claims to be informed but hasn't acknowledged that Trump changes his opinions, statements, and policy plans every time he's asked a question is being disingenuous.
>>715139109
>Not in office yet
Wew lad
>>715138976
Yes it was in comparison. When it had the auto industry it was a hell of a lot bigger you fucking retarded ass liberal kid.
>>715130233
No shilltard Hillary is and always will be a worse choice than trump. Her goal was to destroy the middle class and create even more useless pointless laws turning ordinary citizens into criminals. Trump job was to fuck over SJWs and other borderline criminals cutting taxes on the rich while leaving the majority alone. When your a delusional faggot who wants the government to completely cuck the entire country you want as many safe spaces and special treat as possible to exist in reality.
>>715138445
>I was only pretending to be retarded
>>715139992
>felons
>>715139695
sure i am. please educate me. how do i live my life?
>>715139495
So what's better in your opinion? Domestic propaganda or foreign propaganda? RT is pro-Russian propaganda. I don't know many other popular foreign outlets, but what's to say that too isn't propaganda trying to brainwash you into thinking a certain way?
Also, I don't let news from the US form opinions for me or to take it word for word. I watch it to get a general idea of what is going on and from there I form my own opinions.
>>715132475
What's it like up in there seriously?
>>715139992
>Trumps tax evasion
While probably scummy, the process used wasn't illegal.
>>715138512
>The way anon responded it sounded as if they were stating that disliking Trump for being a scammer is like people who dislike Obama for being black or Hillary being a woman
Not a scammer but mean, the other Anon compared criticizing Trump for being mean (which is what Trump supporters say of liberals) is like criticizing Hillary for being a woman (which is what liberals say of Trump supporters). If it sounded to you different is because you are too stupid to keep up.
>>715138966
Except Gould was talking about the history of science. Pre scientific method.
Not current science. Which is cautious, testing, competitive and while it is perforce theory based and theory laden, the theories are well tested and approximate truth very finely.
So, for instance, climate science is now, after decades of testing and theory refinement, as well established as say, germ theory of medicine and hydrology
In other words - very well confirmed
Gould would be happy to say that climate change was a fact, and that it is fucking scary.
This thread has way too many retarded hillary shills in it.
Go away you are not getting paid anymore
Your candidate lost
>>715140101
You're going to feel pretty silly when you realize that you were the shill all along, albeit unknowingly.
>>715139992
Except I respect people more who don't pay taxes.
It's only logical
>>715138416
Can't do that anon. Those are facts that go against Trump supporters agenda. All they're going to say is how good your tears are, etc
>>715140437
I don't see anyone here saying Hillary should be president. Stop bringing her up, retard
>>715132446
Also been voting since 2004, and this election is so far from normal it's unrecognizable. My anxiety is increasing day by day anticipating the massive wholesale destruction of this country when Trump takes office.
>>715139894
That middle line is all full of shit. NPR is biased as fuck along with The New York Times
>>715140621
Are you literally shaking?
>>715139354
>>715139354
No they haven't. The auto industry moved to other countries where they could make them cheaper by saving on labor costs. Like predators they followed the prey which was the smaller businesses that were their suppliers that NAFTA originally gave them tax breaks for leaving.
>>715140219
well you have to understand everything in media has the purpose of getting you to think a certain way. I just think its useful to take a look at how each outlet spins events. Though i tend to read Reuters more often than the others, and follow wiki leaks. which im sure some people in thread think is a russian front.
>>715132475
Except animal agriculture is responsible for 50% of greenhouse gas emissions while transportation is 20% according to worldwatch.org and Trump wants to build "green" cole plants that produce 90% less emissions by not not letting the gasses in the air.
>>715138792
Sounds like Detroit to me, but white. No wonder conservatives have no problem defending government checks to poor white people.
>>715139544
True but it's hard to some people to just up and leave a place that they have lived for generations.
>>715133197
This, a thousand times this.
Until Obama took office, Republicans would still come up with hairbrained schemes to try and bring Dems down, but they would at least still do their fucking jobs in congress. Once President Obama took office, they flat-out decided that party politics were more important than having a functional government. Obstructionism for its own sake isn't a viable policy platform.
Now we have Trump, a guy who made his whole campaign about Me Me Me and made it very clear that he has no intention of working with anyone who doesn't stroke his ego. This is the culmination of all that nonsense.
>>715140621
>Melting snowflake
>>715140761
Major population difference. less than 5K people in the whole county? Detroit is just one city.
>>715140687
...if you believe what that circle on the bottom right tells you. Grow up and stop parroting Trump. It makes you look immature.
>>715133197
>First voted in 1982.
You must remember when plebs bought MAGA the first time around then...
>>715139136
>being the biggest retard means i win, right?
If that was the case, I wouldn't even enter the competition after you. Cry harder faggot!
I miss Bernie :(
>>715137421
What a lovely platter of non sequitur
>>715140101
>cutting taxes on the rich while leaving the majority alone.
That fact you believe that to even be possible makes you an idiot.
>>715140687
Sorry they didn't include The Daily Meme for you
>>715140749
>cole
There's no such thing as "green" or "clean" coal. The best you can do is "slightly less awful" coal. It's a dying energy source and industry, and it's terrible for the planet.
>>715140621
>>715140887
>>715140073
It was NEVER a metropolis, dipshit. Being bigger than a bumfuck conservative town in Coal Country doesn't make it a goddamn metropolis.
>>715140207
By not being a retarded shill? Trump is appointing people who needed bailouts and tax-exempt status to make it. Thinking they're the best people to run our economy and foreign policy just shows what an absolute 'tard you are.
>>715140151
Zimmerman was not convicted for murder
thus he did not murder
>>715140905
>Snowflake
Is this supposed to hurt my feelings or something? As if I take any of you uneducated, low-IQ inbred Trumpians seriously.
>>715140519
good point
>>715137572
anyone who seriously posts ( or even reads ) garrison is a fucking retard. He's like the Marmaduke of political cartoons.
>>715141159
I remember that shit. And worse, after he was caught in the Iran Contra scandal ("I don't 'member") and tanked the economy, he's held up as some sort of great president.
Reagan was shit.
>>715140101
Nice memes, bro.
>>715141387
Neither did OJ
>>715129934
>politics
>on /b/
lol, ctr dont know how to fit in
>>715141334
Are you surprised the stock market is doing well after Trump puts half of Goldman-Sachs in his cabinet? Ask that poor white guy in Kentucky how much a stock market rally is helping him out.
>>715141441
Well you bit, so...
>>715141159
Yeah. I also remover when the Republicans insisted Carter put hi she peanut farm into a blind trust because of the possibility of a conflict of interest
A fucking peanut farm
Now Trump has billions in debts and overseas investment and business partners and they are all okay with him not having a blind trust.
Hypocrisy, corruption and sleaze - the GOP way
>>715133197
>>715133197
this - they have gone beyond the pale.
>>715141387
While not convicted he went to trial. And for an entirely different type of charge therefore trial and situation.
Though not a felon either, its not a comparable situation beyond that.
>>715141368
i never said i believe they are the right people for the job dipshit. if youd take a moment to reread what i wrote with out your progressive programming to take hold. youd see that i SAID trump is hiring what he views as the best and who he said he would hire.
I said that they appear to be very antagonistic towards rival economies which depending on how they handle themselves may end up poorly for us, or it might go well. We dont know yet.
>>715136485
>>715136485
It makes me sad that you believe any of this.
>>715141334
So considering Wall Street has hit record highs under Obama recently, and you are citing this Trump surge, that would imply Obama did a great job.
>>715141603
>Le supreme troll
Trump ilk
>>715136485
>>715141514
Reagan was also the one who first made an effort to really court religious voters, bringing them into the Republican Party and completely fucking basically every social issue in the United States because now you have to vote with Jesus. Thanks Religious Right!
>>715141334
Good economy means nothing if we ravage the planet it exists on. Go back to /pol and post your shitty excuses for rebuttals.
>>715141623
why are we even bothering to argue?
someone like Bernie should have been the candidate anyway tbh.
>>715141654
I'm pretty sure he didn't campaign on "hiring" 3 goldman sacs bankers.
>>715141603
Maybe you're the one who bit.
>>715141572
When his supporters see Trump & Co. getting richer while they've got nothing, he'll no doubt blame it on Obama/blacks/Jaina/Mexico/the gays/liberals/Rosie O'Donnell
>>715141441
Cry mor
>>715141572
>Stock market does great, America does great
What don't you understand little buttercup?
>>715141334
>Obama has fucked the economy! the stock market doesn't matter! we're fucked!
>trump already fixed the economy! look at the stock market!
>>715141566
Political discussion has always been part of/b/
Fuck off newfag
>>715141816
Stock market has hit record highs under Obama. It's a fact that Republicans don't like to talk about.
>>715141795
>Stock market does great, America does great
>>715140689
Nope
>>715141716
>google, how much has the stock market gained since Trump was elected?
And he isn't even in office yet!
Cry mor libcuck.
Having to have everyone else agree with you in order for you to be content with situations in the world shows that you have no individual intelligence.
>>715141894
no, it's one they like to take credit for without actually doing it.
>>715136485
Muh infowars
>>715141767
>Muh climate change
>>715134566
It's a vicious cycle that the right will not acknowledge cuz their bible tells them they're never wrong and will always be forgiven no matter how bad they fuck everyone's life up.>>715141894
>>715141934
So you aren't giving any credit to Obama for the gains under his administration. You guys are unbelievable. Just deny facts and history and make shit up as you go.
>>715141610
Well... Carter, regardless of whatever anyone thinks about his presidency, is an honorable, thoughtful, all-around, good person in every sense of the term. Trump is basically the opposite of that.
>>715141894
>Since November 9th
>>715141934
Good things: Trump's responsibility
Bad things: Obama's fault
Your retardation is astonishing
>>715141514
>>715141751
>>715141610
>Reagan was shit.
this
>>715129934
You Amerifags STILL DONT GET IT. No matter who u vote for as president, they r all puppets.
>>715141983
This. Everyone feels the need to find their echo chamber. Left and right are both full of faggots needing muh safe space.
>>715142037
Not sure how that makes sense other than senseless trolling, which in honestly isn't really trolling. You must be 12. Does mommy know you're on the internet on a school night?
>>715129934
>>715133197
>>715133589
>>715133900
>>715134442
>>715142037
So you are an edgy teen (or sick fuck) who knows nothing
Ok we get it.
>>715142031
>>715141792
That's the M.O., yeah. I'm not saying they weren't handed a raw deal, but it's because the world is changing. Not because somebody is actively trying to screw them over. Well, I mean, other than the super-rich people they just voted into office. They're gonna take them to the cleaners.
>>715142204
Is it the illerminuty?
