Jet fuel can't melt steal beams.
"caught fire" and "having a plane crash into it" are two different things m8
>>714262305
>Jet fuel can't melt steal beams.
But they sure can bend them!
>>714262305
Who has tested this hypothesis
>>714262305
But it didn't have a plane crash into it...
These kinds of threads are fucking retarded.
>>714262305
OP you're retarded. Did a plane crash into the tower? Did jet fuel light the fire?
>>714263908
>>714262609
The towers were designed to catch a plane, lmao
>>714263868
Honestly, if I had enough money to toss away, I'd create to-scale replicas of each of the twin towers with all wiring, get a hold of scaled down working versions of each of the planes, and see what happens when I recreate the crashes.
>>714262305
It should be illegel to make these threads.
Instant 5 year sentence.
>>714264078
This guy genuinely thinks towers are made with the idea of "catching places" in mind.
Building was heated with natural gas. Methane (natural gas) burns at double the melting point of steel.
suckit.jpeg2000
>>714265126
planes* im dabbed but still smarter than that guy
>>714262305
Bet that tower didn't have a fucking plane slam into it.
To save money the towers were made of Lego's. That is why it caught fire and collapsed.
>>714262305
>Jet fuel can't melt steal beams
But Allah's will can
>>714264078
But in the time that they were built, the only planes that existed were smaller than the ones that actually hit them
>>714264078
That's why noone could fly near them. The towers could extend to grab the plane and eat it.
>>714265993
/thread
>>714264078
A plane got lost in the fog and hit the empire state building in the 40s and WTC was designed with this in mind. It wasn't designed for 747s to deliberately slam into them with such force.
Olympus tower did not burn for 29 hours. It was more like 8 hours.
I was also an electrical fire, which implies it burnt at not nearly a high temperature as the WTC..
>>714266873
when blunt force strikes an object and that object cannot handle the force being applied, it shatters from the point of impact.
>not from the ground floor
>>714268019
>ground floor
Did you even take a glance at the videos?
>>714268914
...I watched it live when it happened, kid. How old are you?
>>714266800
It all makes sense now
>>714269062
21!
>>714268019
The penetration of the buildings isn't what made them collapse, it was that combined with the burning. Tower 7 also collapsed after being hit by debris from the towers and hours of burning.
>>714269062
Sure I believe you dude.
>>714269062
So you take your old memories more seriously than all the videos on the web combined?
>>714269894
You don't have to. I don't have a prove a damn thing to you. I watched as it happened, I saw the raw footage that aired on September 11th 2001, NOT the doctored footage you can see now AFTER the fact.
>>714269497
so blunt force, combined with fire, is what made a skyscraper fall on top of itself? your entire stance used to imply that the structure wasn't designed to handle the impact. NOW your stance is "it wasn't the impact alone, it was the impact AND the fire it caused".
in order for a buildings structure to fail to the point of collapse, the fire had to damage the part thats actually ON fire.
>the ground floor
Why was there a fire ON THE GROUND FLOOR that compromised the entire structure to the point of collapse...when the impact hit the MIDDLE of the building? what exactly do you think caught on fire? hopes and fairy dust? did the jet fuel magically trickle down to the base of the building and suddenly ignite itself?
>>714270126
Better than taking daddys dinner rants as solid fact.
>>714270398
Are you a structural engineer? Or just a psudoscientific fuckup with no brain?
>>714270782
You can't even spell "pseudo-scientific" properly, let alone judge others for their intelligence. Compared to yours, I'm a fucking Einstein.
>>714266873
>747s
> It wasn't
767's
they weren't
fixed it for ya
>>714271026
We have a fucking retard on our hands here.
>>714270398
>NOT the doctored footage you can see now AFTER the fact.
>>714270930
>thank you for believing
these suckers will believe anything, hehehehe, huh? mike? who's mike? oh.
so has anybody figured out how the bbc was able to know WT7 fell an hour before it happened?
>>714262609
>>714263908
Neither did the 3rd tower (2 planes, 3 buildings). The 3rd building was pretty far away. Supposedly a little debris did went really far to the 3rd tower, and caused a fire, which caused a 3rd collapse. It also didn't happen to any of the other surrounding buildings.
>>714266621
Boeing 747 - 1969
World Trade Center - 1973
>>714270398
You're literally the first one that mentioned the fire on the ground floor. Your autism is too high, it makes you see things. Have you seen Bruce Willis?
>>714266873
yeah, in the fog, a plane will go 40mph max.
>>714271777
>bbc
you're in the wrong thread faggot the cuck thread is here>>714255413
>>714271882
Boeing 767 are the ones who hit the tower mate
>>714271777
Very good point and trips confirms
>>714264078
>designed to catch a plane
>>714271980
Nope, for a plane as big as this, ~20 knots is not enough to keep lift on the wings.
(If sarcasm, my autism prevents me from detecting it)
>>714272049
Top to the kek to you
>>714272096
/thread
>>714271844
Most of the other WTC complex buildings were destroyed when the twin towers fell on them. 7 was hit with quite a bit debris, burned for the day, then fell.
>>714271777
Firefighters were pulled from the building shortly before it fell because they knew it was about to collapse. Word got around that it was going to collapse, if it hadn't already.
>>714271709
Man I love Freud!
>>714265126
that's just what they want you to think
>>714272457
why did they use the term "pull it"in reference to the building? a term used by demolitionists?
>>714272457
I was replying directly to the idea that "we're not saying that fire alone collapsed a building, since they also had a plane hit them".
Building 7 supposedly did exactly that (fire, no plane).
>>714272463
Or do they want you to think that this is what they want you to think?
>>714272573
Why did you post Socrates?
>>714272075
claim was there were no large planes at the time of the WTC construction. 747 predated the towers and the smaller 767. you can't reading comprehension. mate.
>>714272651
This image is better
>>714272463
is that you pete?
>>714272708
I thought you were trying to validate the fact that 747 existed before the twin towers, my bad.
>>714272607
Firefighters were pulled from the building, that's the "pull it" reference. Why the fuck would Larry Silverstein go on television and say "pull it" in reference to demolishing his own buildings?
Firefighters knew the building was very likely to collapse hours before it came down, because it has massive damage from another, much larger building collapsing on top of it....you dumb fucking nigger. Christ I hate autistic 9/11 truther faggots. I thought you cunts gave this shit up 10 years ago.
0bama did Benghazi.
>>714273066
False, Plato did not speak english.
>>714272908
firefighters are an "it"?
maybe he was confused.
in any case. they have tried to get rid of the towers for decades because of a dispute with the port authority. and the building was losing money. ironic that the buildings that were totally destroyed were the money guzzling twin towers and the accounting building of tower 7.
and ironic that the day before 9/11 the government "misplaced " and" lost" several billion dollars.
but muh terrists. gotta go fight them right?
>>714273184
It didn't speak at all. It was just flour, water, and food coloring.
>>714268019
yeah, except it started collapsing at the impact point you retard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-9TD3oQq3g
>>714272840
Why is there a montage of James Cameron?
>>714265993
kek
>>714262305
The cause of the WTC collapse wasn't about melting beams. It was about a truss and girdle architecture that relied on each other to maintain the structural strength of the building. All that had to happen for the WTC to collapse for the steel truss to heat enough to become soft. At that point the steel trusses sagged, pulling in the buildings girdle. Now you have the weight of 1/4th of a building on a bent in surface, which snapped and once those thousands of tons slammed into the trusses below they broke free from the girdle, and that is why the building fell inward the way it did. Truss by truss the floors collapsed pulling the girdle in as it went down.
>>714266873
The plane that hit ESB was a bomber yet the building stands. Either they started building shitty skycrapers or bush made spectacular fireworks.
>>714273356
He's gonna try to bullshit you that the videos were "doctored" (his word)
>>714264481
Can't wait for Jan. 20th
>>714273300
>in any case. they have tried to get rid of the towers for decades because of a dispute with the port authority
Muslims had been trying to get rid of the towers for a long time too ya know
>>714273302
Best receipe for a piñata!
>>714265837
Can confirm, am architect Mr. Lego
>>714273581
Since like 450 before Christ, at least!
>>714273471
yes you have the official story memorized. both buildings fell exactly the same way from the same damage with no variation at all.
and tower 7 fell even neater with less damage and "fire" damage. i5t was just so lucky that it hit the right spot that the building fell so neatly.
thankfully the other buildings weren't too badly damaged as expected from 3 monstrous buildings collapsing randomly onto its own footprint.
>>714271567
Actually yes. Down the elevator shafts.
>>714273357
he started #pizzagate with this photo of Bette Midler
>>714273356
holy shit all those demo charges going off one after the other.
>>714273581
>Muslims
lol not a fan of them either but they are a nice boogey man to have to control the masses.
>>714273853
mmm Elio's
>>714273471
>truss and girdle
>pulling the girdle in as it went down.
I'm diamonds
>>714273853
Who the fuck is Bette Midler? (Ignorant fuck here)
>>714272840
what does pete carrol have to do with 911 lol... i haven't been informed of this meme
>>714274032
You misspelled James Cameron
>>714272635
7 did not fall from fire alone
it fell from seismic and kinetic shock of having 2 of the worlds tallest buildings fall across the street in an explosive manner in addition to an uncontrolled gas fire across all floors. (yeah.. watch the footage again.. they didn't fall like a controlled det).
There are few shots of the side of 7 facing the twin towers after the collapse due to the smoke, but you see it in a few chopper shots.. it was completely demolished and ablaze.
>>714271777
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2008/07/controversy_conspiracies_iii.html
>>714274032
do you even google nigger
>>714274089
>it fell from seismic and kinetic shock
the other buildings must have not been paying attention.
>>714273764
They had the same architecture and the same cause for the structural failure. That they fell the same isn't particularly remarkable given those two factors.
Regarding Tower 7: I remember watching the news on the day of 9/11 and the anchors said several times the authorities were considering demoing Tower 7 because it was in danger of falling on other buildings. I actually found a video on youtube a few years ago of a reporter outside Tower 7 saying exactly that, because Tower 7 wasn't a big deal until the Thruthers came along and decided to make a big deal about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaNHuwGAG1I
>>714274156
dubious
while those things seem plausible, it just feels to convenient.
>>714274560
Made my autism kek a bit.
>>714274421
The other buildings weren't as close and didn't actually collide with as much debris.
1 fell outward, pummeling most the buildings around it. Much of the neighboring structures had large amounts of concrete which is stronger (not to mention not near as tall). Since 7 was cleared and the direction of the fire was facing impassable location, it was allowed to burn to the ground. Other structures that were saved were not as tall, not made of the same materials, not impacted the same way, not ablaze, and ended up having to be torn down anyway.
>>714274564
some faggots have too much spare time on their hands
>>714274564
>They had the same architecture
did they?
wt7 looked like it had a traditional structure. especially with the way it collapsed.
>>714262305
jello can't melt steel beans
>>714274814
can you show me any other building that was struck with debris and had a raging fire collapse due to ts structural failure?
I'd like to compare the results.
>>714265837
Why don't more people know this!?!?
>>714274872
The North and South tower had the same architecture and fell the same way. Tower 7 was not the same, and like I said, I remember pretty clearly that the government was telling news agencies they were considering demoing the building to keep it from falling on other buildings since it was likely to collapse on it's own.
>>714274421
>the other buildings ignored the shit that didn't fall on them
>>714274920
this explains everything anons:
>>http://imgur.com/gallery/HyFA6Np
why didn't they make the towers out of the black box?
>>714274920
True
>>714275120
>they were busy trying to catch passing airplanes
>>714273764
they didn't fall the same way. They both were brought down by relatively similar failures because a weakness in the design, but they collapsed completely differently.
They did not fall neatly.. debris were found as far as central park.
7 caved because it was so tall that it couldn't handle the stress of 1 falling ontop of it.. the stubby buildings didn't 'collapse' because they weren't skyscrapers.
> faggots all of you the Towers went down because the republican party contacted the CIA to demo the Towers to start an illegal war for oil and virgins
>>714275269
>other buildings trying
>trying
>whenyoutryyourbestbutyoudontsucceed.mp3
>>714274564
>were considering demoing Tower 7 because it was in danger of falling
and thats why they latched onto it.
you don't haphazardly demo a building thats on fire and has structural damage already.
you let it burn and no one goes in.
so when the guy said "pull it" it wasn't referringto firefighters. it was to the building. pulling a building takes weeks to plan.
WT7 is a hot topic for many reasons. there are just too many inconsistencies. and when thats in doubt, you have to wonder about the two towers.
>>714275350
>the stubby buildings didn't 'collapse' because they weren't skyscrapers.
so scientific.
thats not how buildings work. smaller buildings are weaker than taller building.
>>714275030
can you find me a skyscraper that had another skyscraper fall on top of it?
>>714264249
Someone should make a realistic computer simulation of it...
>>714275589
Demoing a building takes weeks under normal circumstances. This wasn't a normal circumstance, and they were undoubtedly worried about further loss of life and billions in damage to other buildings. I'm sure somebody who demos buildings for a living could take an educated guess and put explosives where they need to be to minimize the footprint of the building's collapse in a matter of hours.
>>714275584
>stubby buildings are stubby
>>714275384
If that was the case they should've at least made a few of the hijackers iraqi.
>>714275885
>rewording the question
>>714275885
it was just part of a skyscraper. not the whole thing.
>>714275885
hold on I'm looking
>>714275752
yes it is dipshit.
Do you know how gravity works?
Do you know how weight works?
That's why when all they were bricks they build pyrimids.
taller the building, the more weight per square inch on the structure's base.
Small building weaker because it's smaller? That's like saying that it would be easier for you to lift a box if you had someone on your shoulders.. because then he would be the one lifting it too.
>>714264249
>>714275934
They'd never let you do it. or publish the results if it goes against the story they've peddled for 16 years.
>>714276078
>buildings are buildings
>>714276191
15*
>>714276013
not when the building is burning.
no one is allowed to enter if its in danger of collapse. not even to demo.
my friends uncle used to do t for a living. he said thats its total bullshit that they would demo a building to save other buildings and put peoples lives in danger.
>>714266800
Dubs speak the truth
>>714276168
>when all they were bricks they build pyrimids.
my sides
the science and proclamations ITT are epic
>>714276168
dude, you lost me.
but I'm sure you're wrong, or I didn't understand your original post.
its not important tho. no worries.
>>714276191
>They'd never let you do it.
>They'd
>They
>>714276550
you know who they are.
>>714276099
You are asking me to find an example of a unique situation. You are removing aspects of the situation that make it unique in order to fit other examples, but the aspects you are removing are the key components.
If you can find me an example that fits the 5 compounding causes
>uncontrolled fire
>tall with small base
>seismic event
>explosive kinetic impact
>all steel
Then you have something worth talking about.
If not, you are wasting your time.
>>714276288
>88
hail victory
>>714276635
Not me, buddy. I was just having a chuckle at your rewording the question.
>>714275752
Solution.
build our skyscrapers to space to make them even more stable. then if a plane crashes into them they'll never fall.
>>714276661
what kind of name calling would adolph get in middle school?
adolph. a dolphin. squeak squeak a dolphin.
>>714276750
just spin uncontrollably.
>>714276750
Better solution. Make them all inflatable, like giant bounce houses. Then planes will just bounce off of them.
>>714266800
oh, so they are like the Kite Eating Tree that Charlie Brown had to deal with in the Peanuts cartoons.
>>714272457
They stated it collapsed already when it was still standing in the background.
>>714277138
pics or it didn't happen
>>714276863
Why not make balloon airplanes too? And US Army fighter jets with pins and needles all over them in case of a highjacking
>>714276620
They're monitoring this thread as we post
>>714277436
I hope you truthers are behind 7 proxies
better peek out the curtains and make sure the van is not parked down your street
>>714277380
>balloon airplanes
Oh, the humanity!
>>714277203
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-ARvjQOZH4
Looks like they figured out it was still standing and conveniently said they lost connection with the lady reporter.
>>714277711
I meant like this dumbtwat, not blimps
>>714276168
And that's why Volkswagen Beetles are so much more durable than Freightliners.
![WTC-6-Arial-Damage[1].jpg](https://cdn.randomarchive.com/b/image/1481/009/1481009237875.jpg "WTC-6-Arial-Damage[1]")
