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How smart are you, /b/?
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What about an infinite line
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>>714026278
Clearly you lifted your pencil from the paper.
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>>714027184
Clearly dont know how portals work
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>>714027184
I don't think he used a pencil and I don't think that's a paper. Look around you, where do you think you are right now and who do you think you're talking to.
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Straight across each line, two diagonals tp connect them. Im too high to draw it,
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>>714027635
Each row I mean
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>>714027635
You don't end up where you started that way.
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>>714025576
Even a nigger could do this
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>>714027893
>You have to end up where you started
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>>714025576
doesn't say you're limited to 5 lines.. just draw 5 straight lines and then do whatever necessary to end up where you began
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>>714027957
That's where I'm getting hung up on, too.
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fuck you
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Can anyone prove it's impossible?
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>>714025576
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Didn't draw it perfectly, but you get the idea.
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>>714028190
Nearly impossible to prove a negative. You'd have to go through every possible permutation without success to do so.

I would postulate that it likely is impossible. But I've been wrong before.
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>>714028260
But that's the lame case where the dots are not just points.
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>>714025576
Smart enough to create this site

Not smart enough to keep it alive

>im moot
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Why do people think this is hard? It says nothing about the angles the lines make.
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>>714028416
It's the only case we were presented.

Not my fault if it's lame.
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took me a couple tries but i remembered this was how i was taught to draw stars in middle school.
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>>714028416
Doesnt matter, it follows all rules given
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>>714028577
OP here, you win
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GG EZ
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>>714028577
/thread
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>>714028577
noice
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>>714028577
>>714028625
>>714028690
samefag
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>>714025576
How can you draw 5 different lines if you can't lift your pencil op?
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>>714028577
Very well done my fellow anon.
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now someone post the template for the autism maze
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>>714028577
Like this!
>>714028877
>Duel 77's!
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>>714028411
You obviously haven't done much math. Although in this case it turned out the construction was possible after all.
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>>714028690
>>714028768
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>>714028910
>>714029021
thanks /b/tards, now gimme somethin else
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Round 2
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>>714029511
too lazy to draw it out, but do this:
move the top and left sticks from the upper left square, and the bottom stick from the bottom right square, to form a square over the girl's face
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>>714029994
i kinda did something similar
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Round 3, last one was way too easy. This one is harder.
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>>714030419
damn it, you might have got me here op
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>>714030419
This is not a well formed question.
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>>714031358
so far i've been able to deciper that the pattern continues in where the shapes havent been on the grid yet.
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>>714030419
F-
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>>714031527
>>714030419
alright this one i actually dont know but im gonna go on a whim and say it's h. it seemed that the square and circle hadnt yet been in one spot, and all the shapes swap places once with another shape. but meh
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>>714032178
Wrong.
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>>714032280
sheeeeiiiit
alright OP, im not giving up. let me see if i can make a pattern. can i turn the pieces a certain way?
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>>714032331
Turn the pieces a certain way? Like how?
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>>714032545
like would turning the grids 90 or 180 degrees help in any way or can i solve it just as it is shown?
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>>714032653
It is by far the most intuitive to solve it in its original orientation.
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>>714032859
ok. any hints?
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>>714032907
Here's a hint: ...-> square -> circle -> triangle -> square -> circle -> triangle -> square ->..., etc.
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>>714033381
the hint gave it away omg
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>>714033381
I am too drunk for that now. My first guess was, it is some kind off bubble sort. I am only guessing without any proof, but wouldn't it be B
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>>714034222
Wrong, I don't even understand the pattern you have apparently discerned.

>>714034475
It's not B.
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>>714034709
FUCK, WHAT
the pattern i thought was that there had to be two lines of square circle triangle and they had to connect with one shape.

damn it. now i actually dont know what
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>>714034709
see, that's the problem with this sort of puzzle
there's a pattern there, all cells have either an L or a T formed by lines with one each of square circle triangle

there's one particular pattern that the puzzle designer is looking for, but there are a variety of possible patterns and solutions
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>>714028877
What I was trying to say in this post was that all of the lines are connected, so it is just 1 line so it would be impossible to draw separate lines without lifting the pencil from the page
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>>714035304
This supposed pattern doesn't fit, though. There are several rows and columns that aren't marked in this solution. For example, all three horizontal lines in the middle figure has one square, circle and triangle.
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>>714035304
i took what OP said directly. square, circle, triangle

then applied it to each of the options. i found it in 2 possible options but since E was ruled out my last guess is A. after that someone else gotta try it cuz im stumped
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>>714035543
It's not A.
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>>714035662
FUCK
alright. it's not H, E, or A
i might give it ONE more shot but you got me pretty stumped with this one OP
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>>714035535
oh, yep
i was going off the green boxes the other anon drew
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>>714025576
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Requirements by the statement of the rules are that you must connect the dots by drawing straight lines and not lifting the pencil from the paper, and that you must end up where you started.

Says nothing about no extra non-straight lines, or shit, beyond that no extra straight lines.

Math grad here, to nitpick your problems apart.
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>>714036346
a math grad should know that lines are infinitely long
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im gonna lose sleep OP, i cant figure this out for the life of me. even if you gave me the answer i wouldnt get how you did it unless you explained to me
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>>714036346
just fold the paper when you've finished drawing to get the pencil back to the starting point
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>>714036570
True, common use of the word line is to mean sections of lines. As the literal definition of line is applicable mostly only in looking at geometries.
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>>714030419
The answer is G next question please.
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>>714037426
Also to explain it : Each symbol moves right one space per turn. Triangles turn to Squares, Squares to Os, and Os to triangles.
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>>714028577

wow its possible..
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>>714037426
>>714037560
oh my god ok im gonna test this right now and if you're right ill be so upset with my autistic self
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>>714037560
Correct, well done. I can add that when going from one horizontal line to the next, the entire figure is simply rotated 90 degrees clockwise.
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>>714028577
nice anon, here's the real solution though: https://i.gyazo.com/a56c2c82b904274795acbdb212ec0c23.png

go find a copy of this one, you wont see it because i didnt copypaste like you faggot
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>>714037961
YOU BITCH YOU TOLD ME IT WOULD BE EASIER TO UNDERSTAND IF I DIDN'T TURN THE FIGURE!!!!! oh well im not actually that mad just disappointed
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>>714037961
where does the first column of symbols in the middle and right hand blocks come from then?
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>>714038186
thats just the same thing i did except i used the template and it doesnt look like ass

good try tho anon
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>>714038229
Well, it is. The 90 degree change from one line to the next is just a neat detail that's irrelevant to the solution. The reason it's most intuitive to otherwise keep the original orientation is that the change follows the pattern of reading: It goes from left to right, then to the next line below, etc.
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>>714037560
To specify, "each symbol moves right one space" means that it moves to the right until it reaches the end, the last object in a row moves to be the first element of the next row, until out of rows, upon which the final object moves to the first row's first element.
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>>714038558
fuck. i still BARELY understand it but thats ok. good shit OP
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Round 4. I want the exact solution, of course.
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>>714039225
it's too late for math right now
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>>714039225
Been a while since i've done probability shit. Will give it a go.
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4?
I think its the pythagorean theorem
ASquared+BSquared=CSquared
A=1
B=1
1Squared+1Squared=2Squared
2*2=4
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>>714039846
nvm
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>>714039846
lol
the longest possible segment is sqrt(2), so how could the average be 4?
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>>714039951
idk, its too late for this im tired
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>>714039846
>>714039894
even if that was so you have to find the root of 4, which is just... 2

even so, that's the highest on the scale, the lowest would be 0.1 or 0? so the average distance would just be 1
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>>714028118
8 lines (sides)
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>>714039225
i'll just leave this here
https://youtu.be/i4VqXRRXi68
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>>714039533
2/15 + (sqrt(2)+ln|sqrt(2)+1|)/3 - 4*sqrt(2)/15

annoying integral.
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>>714028508
>Connect all the dots
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>>714040402
answer to
>>714039225
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>>714039846
You think the average of all distances between two random points inside of a unit square is 4...?

When there exists no such line inside of a unit square that is greater than sqrt(2) (which is about 1.41)
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>>714040312
Bah, knew it would be too easy to just google that one.
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Round 5, then.
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>>714040821
It's not a hard problem, the problem with it is that most people lack the tools to approach it. Knowing probability distributions and the calculus to integrate it is... a bit of a tall order.
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Is it √2 / 2? √2 is the longest, and all other random lines must be less than it, with the middle being half of the max?
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>>714040938
It does take a bit of cleverness to simplify the quadruple integral, though.
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>>714040938
even knowing all of those tools, nobody is going to solve this problem from scratch in the lifetime of this thread
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>>714027893
End up where you started faggot
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>>714040862
>mfw its another fucking shapes logic puzzle
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For those who found the square problem too easy though: Try the same problem with a cube. If still too easy, try a tesseract. If needed, continue until you get to an n-dimensional hypercube that's not easy.
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>>714041381
nigger it took me 4 tries to solve a simple 9x9, 3-symbol puzzle what makes you think i can even get NEAR a tessract
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The answer is C, each column is the same format, different shapes
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>>714041832
Yup, well done.
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>>714035415
Look up the definition of a mathematical line, then return here.
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>>714041832
what?
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>>714041381
Yeah, let's set up a non-tuple integral and solve it for fun! wooooo.

The formula is basically: for a given object of dimension n, solve the n^2 integral of the distance formula sqrt[(a1-b1)^2+(a2-b2)^2+...+(an-bn)^2] where a represents coordinates of first point (a1, a2, ..., an), and b represents coordinates of second point (b1, b2, ... , bn). With respect to every single element of those vectors, from 0 to 1.
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>>714042476
That formula is obvious, the challenge is solving those integrals, which is far from trivial.
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>>714025576
Ha?
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>>714042675
Yeah. The applied mathematician in me tells me it's far simpler to approximate within an acceptabile limit by just throwing random numbers at it.
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>>714042443
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There you go nigger, what's so complicated ?
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>>714042857


You didn't end where you started.
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Anyway, round 6.
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>>714043626
Fuck triangles, working on it.
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>>714043626
I got the bottom half, but then my brain went retarded...
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>>714043626
x=30
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>>714043626
35 or 33

I always eye balled and got this shit right.
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>>714043626
>>714045168
confirmed, answer is 30.

Law of sines and cosines to figure out lengths of missing sides and angles.
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>>714028642
>you have to end up where you started
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The answer is indeed 30. Using the Laws of Sines and Cosines is overkill though, as it can be solved purely through elementary methods, though it's quite tricky.
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>>714039225
√2/2
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>>714047073
"quite tricky" nigga why though. law of sines is easy as all fuck to use. Law of cosines I sometimes forget, but can figure it out if i know i need it.

Could essentially create a matrix and solve it with missing variables, but i don't see how that's any easier honestly.
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>>714047388
The solution that utilizes only elementary methods is much more elegant and simple (once you see it). It's just difficult to find that solution in the first place.
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>>714043626
This problem actually appears in popular children's franchise My Little Pony.
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>>714043626
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>>714047805
Well, it's a somewhat famous problem, almost a century old.
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>>714040862
C?
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>>714047836
Kek
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>>714047805
Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
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>>714047999
Yeah. And I'm a pedophile, so I remembered this appearance.
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i can do it in two, the question doesn't put a limit on the thickness of the line
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>>714048261
Lines are by definition infinitely thin.
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>>714048027
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>>714048332
why you always gotta fuck things up for a nigga? your parents think you're a faggot
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>>714046376
If this was a math test where I had to show my work I'd be fucked 'cause I made an assumption I had no reason to make without doing the math, and I got lucky that the assumption was correct.
For whatever reason I assumed that since y=50, z also was 50.
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>>714049311
As an assumption with no basis outside of "i think it is" then yeah that doesn't follow. Honestly, I don't see the "elegant" simple answer.
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>>714028437
you should be able to solve this
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>>714049696
After I wrote my answer I stopped for a second and asked myself "Why did I assume that?"
I'm still not sure, but I can live with being lucky.
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All right, here is the solution that requires no algebra or trigonometry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Langley%E2%80%99s_Adventitious_Angles#Solution
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>>714047805
how the fuck you know that, anon? :^)
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>>714051322
Yeah that's not elegant. Knowing to create another angle at 20 degrees to another angle to create an isosceles triangle is not pretty to me. That's a burden of knowledge greater than knowing how to utilize sin and cosine.
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>>714051879
I guess elegance is in the eye of the beholder. Obviously this trick is nowhere near as useful as knowing the laws of Sines and Cosines; if it was, it would be a technique taught to everyone studying geometry. It's precisely its unexpectedness and esoteric nature that makes it elegant, though.
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>>714043626
X=40 degrees
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>>714052201
I *really* wouldn't use the word 'elegant', more like 'terrifying'.
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>>714025576
Fuckin tards
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>>714041903
kek
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>>714052574
Not possible on paper the same size of the image using a line with the thickness of a pencil tip
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Nowhere in the rules does it state that you cannot cut the paper
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>>714051322
That's the solution I'd come up with (using symmetry, not using Wikipedia).
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>>714043070
I dun get it, What's the formula? What makes the top left the red dot in every frame along the top?
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>>714054949
Follow the sequence of the shapes under each color (e.g., the circle-plus-triangle under the red dots), answer C is the composition of the four marked.
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