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>>714018515
Seems like so much effort to try to trick girls to send nude pics.
I like the version that one anon posted where he used to trade head shots for an artsy nude photo session. That seems like something I could totally do.
>Used DSLR camera on craigslist $100
>Light kit and backdrop on Jet.com $81 (pic related)
>Free business cards from whatever online printing service
>Domain name for like $50
>Free website template
>Free gallery of photos of your past work (stolen from other photography sites)
Shit this is actually very doable.
>Complete light kit for less than $100.
>>714018515
How is that a scam tho
>>714020242
gotta add facebook twitter and instagram account set up. a hottie wannabe model will check you out on those way before going to your website.
>>714020250
>wanna send me dem nudez for a model job
>sure sounds legit
Has anyone the video where the one retarded "fit" persong talks about how she thought senfing pics of her vagina were needed for a "body-print" job? That shit was hillarious
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>>714021304
Agreed. So the set up would be something like:
>Cheapo entry-level DSLR kit with some lenses
>Studio light kit with backdrop
>Free business cards from online
>Free portfolio of your work (stolen from other photography sites)
>Cheapest domain name hosting
>Free website built with a template to feature your photographic work
>Free social media accounts
>Set up scheduled posts to social media accounts to build "history"
The only thing is the studio space. I happen to have an extra bedroom that isn't being used so I could easily turn that into my "studio". And I don't live in a shitty neighborhood. Other anons might have trouble looking legit.
Fuck I'm really starting to talk myself into this.
>>714022377
Not worth the risk using stolen pics for your portfolio. Just spend a week making your own and actually learning some photography. Also, models love to look at their pictures after they have been taken.
>>714018515
The whole scam thing just seems like a lot of work. It just takes $20 to get a girl naked and snap pics these days. Everyone has to get the rent money somehow.
Don't bother with "high quality escorts" those bitches want $300+ and they don't even look good lol
>>714022677
What's the risk, out of curiosity? A cease and desist email? If that's all then I would just remove the images that got caught.
The "business model" I'm thinking is that I only trade work for work. Free head shots in exchange for a nude modeling session. I wouldn't offer to get them work or shit like that. I would only hope that my social media accounts would make them think I'm an up-and-coming photography with connections.
I used to do something like this. About 7 years ago.
I started a business buying clothes from China and Vietnam but the problem was how shitty the manufacturer photos were and how ugly the Asian girls were. Not sellable online to non-Asians. I went online to a model website and found a couple female models and hooked up with a couple photographers. Eventually I learned whatever little technique they had and I cut them out of the equation and set up my own little studio in a decent part of town. Eventually I stopped hiring the models because the ones with experience wanted more money and the new ones were happy with like $50 (some became legit professional models anyways.)
Some would change in front of you and not give a fuck because its kind of unprofessional to act like you care a lot about being seen nude. I'd get a friend to hit up malls and stuff to hand out business cards all over the Chicago area.
Finally... I invested in a bulk amount of lingerie. That was probably the best month ever. I was a walking erection. I fucked a couple too.
>>714023469
So you had a legit business reselling clothes/lingerie? And then the modeling stuff was a happy necessity? Just wondering if I got it right. Sounds pretty fucking nice.
>>714023469
then you woke up in hospital with no penis
One of these days I will have the power to get these women nude without scamming or bullshitting. I am getting closer and closer. Getting easier to get their clothes off.
Think about this one for a minute. Imagine all the nudes the people that work at Snapchat have access to...............Mind blowing if you really think about it....
Also just about every girl you want nudes of that seem impossible to get, someone has them saved...
>>714023209
You would literally be claiming and using photographs as your own. If the owners of the photographs were to find out, you could have a shitty lawsuit to deal with. Also, there are social implications that could result from this. Sorry for late response.
>>714024222
The scam is part of the thrill. I can get/have gotten pussy. I just want to see hot women naked without paying for it every time.
Basically I want to be Terry-Richardson-esque fucking naive "models". Pic related.
>>714024737
>You would literally be claiming and using photographs as your own.
Right. And, as far as I understand, the very first step a lawyer would take is to send a cease and desist letter to the website admin (me). My experience is that it's not an instant lawsuit.
What are the social implications? I have no idea what you mean.
>>714025171
Isn't that enoigh of a risk?
>>714025171
For social, don't you have friends and family that would be shocked that you create a false portfolio just to get some pics of some chicks?
>>714020242
Did you guys steal my playbook. Ran this exact scam a few years ago. Then by some crazy alignment of kek, ended up being my full time gig. Model Mayhem is full of sloots looking to make it big. Spent about $1600 total initial investment. Camera, lights the whole 9. Hired a few dumb girls off of social media sites like mocospace, skout etc. Hotards are hotards for a reason. Banged half the chicks I booked for "shoots"
Now I do weddings, engagements and all types of other shit. But I still rope a few sloots in a few times a month.
Don't be creepy neckbeard and watch a few youtube videos on lighting and you can be like me too.
>>714025616
how did you make money off their pics?
>>714025368
N....no. It's actually no risk.
A cease and desist letter literally means "stop doing that or else". If you stop doing that (stop using whatever particular photos they're complaining about) then there is no "or else". You've complied with the request.
>>714025603
I'm not using my real name. So no. And if they found out it was me I would own up to pursuing a photography career. Which technically would be the truth.
>>714025616
I want to be you.
>>714025836
I sold sets on ebay for a while. And I set up an account on extralunchmoney and advertised personalized shoots for guys. Usually had the chick make a short 1-2 min video saying the guys name and then sent anywhere from 5 to 10 photos with the props/poses he wanted. Paid the girls a percentage, but never tell them they can go on there and do it themselves, or there goes your golden goose.
I can't tell if these threads are being made by the FBI or some horny kid.
how much yeast do i add to get my bread like this?
>>714026431
None. That bread has been heavily modified for the sake of the photo, and probably isn't even edible. You'd be better off just painting dough
>>714026025
It's easier than you know. Seriously watch a few videos on lighting, and learn how to carry yourself like you've been doing the shit for 20 years and have a million dollars in the bank and the chicks will want to bang just for those reasons. Sometimes they bring their boyfriends or "chaperones" shit sucks, but doesn't matter cuz you got to see some dumb bitches tits and that trumps everything
>>714026556
Only used to your factory white bread fatty?
>>714024802
Yes I know it's a thrill. But sometimes... The thrill can waste your time.
>>714025896
Ok then go for it. A cease and desist letter would probably happen after you have already gained some ground, and so you would have some pics to replace those images you have to remove. Convinced me anon.
Did you guys steal my post it notes? I have performed this exact scam many years ago. Then by some crazy fortune, making meme became my full time gig. Ebaums world is full of memes looking to make it big. Spent about $1.60 total initial investment. phone camera, flashlight the whole 6. Hired a few dumb goats off of craigslist. goat fuckers are farmers for a reason. Banged half the goats I booked for "shoots"
Now I do poop cleaning, yard clean up and all types of other shit. But I still rope a few goats to fuck a few times a month.
Don't be creepy neckbeard and watch a few youtube videos on goat fucking and you can be like me too.
>>714026209
>extralunchmoney
Holy shit I didn't know this existed.
>>714026574
Good advice.
Guys, I...I think I'm going to be a model scammer/porn producer.
>>714026789
How's the salt mining business going? Don't be a jelly gentleman of african descent.
>>714026789
goats?
step up your game nigga
>>714027105
Pics, or it didn't happen.
>>714026789
Proof just for you phaggot
>>714028167
I got a DSLR also...dont mean anything lol
>>714028482
Not bad not a big fan of that tattoo but nice!
I got scammed like this once and ended up getting blackmailed because of it.
>>714028525
So lets just forget about the 3 studio lights, tripod and 5 in 1 reflector in the background.
>>714028641
elaborate please
>>714028641
LMAO HOW
>>714028751
>>714028735
I saw a modelling ad on craigslist. I filled out a form and sent the requested nude pictures. The guy who did it then gave out my information and nudes online somewhere and I had a couple people blackmail me into sending more, and one who lived close blackmailed me into doing a lot more.
>>714028641
Can we see the photos?
>>714029323
Hell no.
>>714029427
Oh, then gtfo. Who gives a shit about you?
>>714029427
Post them cunt or fuck off
>>714029054
deserved it
>>714028641
blackmailed how? did they ask for money or try to make you suck their dick?
>>714023469
I think you should contact a guy who prints false documents and frame a bunch of phony photography and art licenses and have a bunch of unwanted unfinished art, maybe some cheap paint that looks legit, and throw it around the place, so you can do some risque kind of things for "starting models" for "artistic purposes". You know what I'm talking about anon.
>>714028482
>trashy tattoos
>>714030291
>there are other kinds of tattoos
>>714023732
Pretty much, yeah.
Browse clothing shops on taobao and steal a sellers gimmick and photos, set up your own .com, buy the clothes from the seller in bulk, use white models, etc.
>>714029633
Whatever.
>>714029707
I deleted them after everything that happened. I could take one now though I guess.
>>714030469
>whataretattoos?
>>714030536
So long as you don't have a penis, please do take new ones. Remember to time stamp, bitch.
>>714030536
No you won't fuck off.
>>714028482
>Face of a 18yo
>body of a 50yo
Eew.
>>714030667
I'd like to see the face of a 50 year old, but the body of an 18 year old...
I actually have a real studio 1600 square feet and 30K + worth of gear and lighting. Yes, I make real porn. Not going to give myself up but have shot a lot of top models. I'm sure if you surf porn you've seen my work and probably my cock.
>>714030933
No one cares. Post pics instead of boasting about your self-proclaimed success.
bump for interest
>>714030536
>>714030609
Write "/b/'s blackmailed bitch" on yourself and post your e-mail too slut
Do you think 200 years ago painters were hving similar discussions about nude models?
>>714028167
>>714031147
I like this demand
>>714029323
tits or gtfo
>>714031070
> Not going to give myself up.
Just saying if you want to know how to look legit and actually recruit I can help as I actually am legit and actually recruit.
>>714031147
If someone replies to this and gets dubs I'll do it. No face though
>>714030667
never seen a naked girl before irl eh?
>>714021907
Moar!!
>>714031299
>>714031382
Yo.....
>>714031299
Don't care about how legit you say you are. Instead, how about you post pics of these models you claim to associate with. If not, you can gtfo and stop boasting about something you can't prove.
>>714031382
Fuck you. Gtfo if you're going to play games.
Kek, my current girlfriend almost fell for this shit. She got all ecstatic over the email and I had to tell her it's some bullshit.
Women fall for fucking anything now
>>714031458
I work with most major agencies. ATMLA, MontlyModels, Society15. Can wax for days about 2257 regulations. Shoot with a variety of cameras. My 5DM3 with a 50mm is my go to with some XA-30's for POV as well as a half dozen gopro's using them mainly for VR now. KinoFlo's are my goto lighting (standard 3 point set up) but recently more interested in LED's as the temperature is more accurate as you can dial it in without dealing with gels. Shoots for solo are typically 250-450, oral 500-600, full b/g scenes around 800-900. Anything else you need for proof champ?
>>714029054
wait so you fucked a local guy so he wouldnt give out nudes?
were you like, legitimately worried or just bored enough to fuck under weird circumstance
greentext it?
>>714031193
Absolutely.
>>714031930
worthy of pasta, anyway
much words, less images
>4chan is an image board
>>714031930
what about canada
and what about flying a bitch out, do you pay or does she?
>>714031382
Successful troll is successful troll
>>714031930
>>714032103
kek
>>714031382
ROLLIN
>>714031382
Sure you will
>>714031930
>Shoots for solo are typically 250-450, oral 500-600, full b/g scenes around 800-900.
What the fuck does this even mean? Is that what you charge a model? What you sell a photo set for? What your cut is of...fuck if I know.
You are monumentally bad at communicating.
>>714032103
I'd be honored to be new pasta. Look I have nothing to prove. I live it, could care less about folks trying to appear what I actually am. Just saying I I know what you are trying to look like. It's not hard and happy to give some advice for big flags to avoid looking like a GWC "Guy with a Cam" (yes thats what the models call you) and you get sniffed out really really fucking fast and blacklisted from everything but random skanks off of backpage PROTIP most BP applicants are hookers looking for some quick cash. BTW you should also research the TTS - talent testing database. No legit model will fuck you without a 14 day clean pass.
>>714024802
That was actually his girlfriend at the time
>>714031382
I bet this is a dude.
>>714031382
Tits please
Sextortion!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seqT9eXTQPg
>>714028482
>>714021907
>>714018515
See this is the thing. If you're tricking a girl to takes pics, you're only going to get stuff like this. It's not bad, but it's not full potential.
I like the artsy nude approach because, you know, I want to see pussy lips and butt holes.
>>714032399
Thats what most talent expects as payment. LA rates. You an sell over and over again on kink bomb, clips4sale etc - recurring revenue once you have the scenes in the bag. Or if production value is high enough sell them to larger distributors or exclusives with site owners.
>>714031382
ass pls
>>714032500
answer my questions I'm not the other dude
how does this shit work if you were to do the same in Canada
and if you book a bitch does she pay to fly out and get a hotel and you just pay her whatever her fee is?
what is your ROI? Like when you pay a bitch $900 how quickly do you make that back?
>>714032509
What about this one?
>>714032200
Nice dubs. Nope not mad. Just a funny tread to me as its what I do for a living. Kinda cute seeing the proposed setups / schemes to see a naked woman. I'm amused, not triggered.
>>714031930
you sound just like "jay rock" that uppity fucking manlet rapist hahahaha
>>714032644
>I want to see pussy lips and butt holes.
what about feet? do you want to see feet? are you a footfag?
>>714032749
Not sure how Canada works with 2257 regulations but if you want to distribute in the states you should be aware of them.
I shoot for a larger company so I have a built in 20% markup. I make money regardless of how much money they make. I'm paid as producer, not trying to peddle it myself, but network with a lot of shooters who do make a living with their own content. Mostly really super niche content is where there is still money, standard blond fake tit blowjobs won't get you anywhere anymore.
Regarding flying them out, most girls will expect a room for the night + HMU (hair and makeup) prior to the shoot, if flying from say LA > Vegas for a shoot they will come in and out same day, but yes you are expected to cover those costs.
If you work with a talent agency they will ensure the model does actually appear (lots are flaky) and recoup your costs if the shoot doesn't happen or she shows up all fucked up.
>>714032937
>Just a funny tread to me as its what I do for a living.
How long did it take you to get where you are? Schooling and such?
>>714032771
that's a trap
>>714033224
Hey jay's living the dream + Amateur Allure an Swallow Salon have great production value. He's pretty talented at making the models comfortable and also really decent in post. Can't hate the guy. Lots of folks do it much worse.
>>714033404
>>714031930
OUR LORD AND SAVIOUR PAUL MARKHAM COULD PROBABLY GIVE YOU SOME ADVICE, BRO.
>>714018515
that girl is actually pretty cute.
>>714029054
What did the local guy do?
>>714033468
About 15 years. Started as a webmaster for a large porn company. Eventually moved into production as we needed specific shots and it got prohibitively expensive enough to outsource vs just open a studio in house. From there, I learned the ropes and branched out to opening my own studio working for a wider range client base.
Talent is really important but networking in adult is key. Its really a small group of "big" players and reputation is massive. Easy to get blackballed but also equally as easy to impress folks and get steady work and top talent as you become a "trusted" studio. Lots of agencies wont send talent out to just some guy with a website and a shitty ebay DSLR. You will get outed really quick as a GWC. Kiss of death.
Start small, attend some conventions, be active on the boards, GFY, XBiz etc and you will get noticed if you can make something quality or unique.
>>714028167
nice looking watch dude, what is it?
>>714033620
Hah, so you do work in the business. No I'm not paul thank god. Go fuck yourself ;) sure you will get that reference. Cross board pollination.
>>714034203
haha go fuck yourself too my friend ;)
>>714034082
*where did u stole it from?
>>714033404
ok thank you, I appreciate the info
I am in Canada and I figure it's a clean slate up here as far as payment and I have taught myself to edit video and currently work for a TV company doing recorded and live broadcasts so I have 2 bosses I can ask for help in regards to getting the set up and video right.
I have thought about paying a flat fee to a woman to basically bring in "models" for me and that would hopefully allow me to not have to be a creep and she can basically take all that bullshit off my shoulders.
From what you said I gather that I'd be paying like $2,000 to fuck top tier models that would cost half that if I lived in LV, LA, or Arizona? Like I'd have to fly them out, put them up in a hotel room, get their hair and make up done and make sure their agency is the one I am paying so their agency makes sure their passport is even valid and they don't flake?
If you can just do me a solid here, let's say I have a nice little condo in Toronto or Montreal. If I wanted to shoot a video with say Alexis Texas, how would the logistics of that work out? Can you please give me a step by step just so I can have a picture in my head?
>>714034054
Ah, so that's the counter-point I wanted to make.
Not speaking for other anons, but I'm looking into this JUST to trick girls into being naked and taking photos of them. I already have a career, etc.
So potentially I can be up and running in a few weeks time, out a few hundred bucks to set up, and I'll look like you (a legit photographer). That's pretty awesome.
>>714029106
MOAR!
>>714028482
she kinda looks like reviewbrah
Okay buthow do i write ads to get the girls?
>>714034384
shut up sperg, it's a nice looking watch.
I have a 3d scanner, I wonder if I could get them to pose on my turntable for full body 3d models?
>>714034751
>>714034524
Yes anyone can fuck or scam skanks off of BP or whatever. Thats easy. They either don't care or don't know any better. If you just want to look legit have a clean space, standard 3 point softboxes would impress them but to move beyond a simple scam that won't fly for long.
>>714026209
Alpha male here. This motherfucker is a serious alpha male. Good fucking job, man.
Are we finally going to get Sam Rago or Charlotte's vid?
>>714034948
second nigger detected
>>714034751
Ok
>>714032500
35 year old dude here. I believe you're for real.
>>714034082
I only wear Invicta. Looks nice and not pretentious like the other shit. Just good looking watches.
>>714034482
Gammae is based out of montreal btw/ yea you are probably looking at about 2K if not a bit more. The price of the model would be a lot less but you have more expenses than just the price of the model. The agency (at least the established ones) will make sure that they come with proper documentation, passports, show up on time, have negotiated the scene etc.
If you wanted to shoot in this example Alexis - you would need to be a known entity with the agency. Meaning you would need a professional website, some industry references or introductions, also she will report back to the agency after the shoot so if its not a legit shoot you can blackball yourself.
Money talks though so if you can afford it and aren't just using the agency as a glorified escort agency they will be happy to have you as a client.
>>714035014
>If you just want to look legit have a clean space, standard 3 point softboxes would impress them but to move beyond a simple scam that won't fly for long.
That's what I'm talking about. Although I disagree that it won't fly for long. I think there's an endless supply of wannabe models. And, to reiterate, I don't intend to promise any of these girls modeling gigs or agency signings or shit like that. They get a "free" photo session in exchange for a nude session.
>>714031395
>>>714030667 (You)
>never seen a naked girl before irl eh?
I see it every day. Last time was 15 minutes ago. My 40yo wife has better tits & body than that used trash.
>>714031382
I got this boys
>>714035161
I thank the Corps. for that. Not that I was a beta cuck before, but after I graduated boot. I turned into Alpha-Male 3000. Older now, but the lessons stay with you for life.
>>714034482
BTW a little tip. If you have decent strip club around, look for "featured" dancers who are traveling to work the club. Saves you the travel expenses as they are there already and happy to make a bit of extra cash for a scene. A lot of talent makes a good portion of their income feature dancing so they basically come to you.
>>714035839
Nice try, but let the experts handle this
>>714035663
Ok that brings me to my next question and thank you
Is there a known or like regular adult video website creator out there? Like go daddy for porn? Is there a known company that designs JUST adult websites that I can pay a fair price for a fully working website where I can just upload scenes every week?
Or am I going to have to hire a company to upload the videos for me?
Are we going to share the vids or not
>>714035744
Dude you can troll BP for days. Every ad I place I get at least 20-30 girls with no idea how the business works. Maybe one or two are actually really fucking hot, so your idea will fly. I'm not crapping on the theme of this tread, just thought it was of interest based on what I do so no crapping on your plan, just thought I could offer some perspective / tips from the other end of the industry. No hate.
>>714032643
>gorgeous, isn't she
Lol. Ugly british skank 'gorgeous'. Ah those brits.... :-)
>>714036061
Well done.
>>714036051
We actually do have a decently nice strip club around here where girls from the province travel to...I was talking with one of them, they wanted $500 per girl to spend the night with me and my cousin, I thought "well....I can probably get them on camera for the same with just me for that price or less if I let them wear a mask..." Am I wrong in thinking this? Are strippers from reputable clubs a bad source of talent or is it a case by case thing...like each girl is different?
There is also a known strip club in my town...much less professional and the girls sit around drinking instead of dancing, I noticed the difference right away
>>714031382
Gimme dis
>>714031382
Pathetic attempts gentlemen.
>>714018515
Drop your kik or email if you think you can help me get nudes. Pic related
>>714036444
Yeaaah deliver!
To the porn producing anon
if I get a Panasonic HC-X1000 4K and a Sony Handycam FDR-AX100 for POV will that be good? Or do I need to spend more?
>>714036081
Take a peek at modelcentro dot com
or some off the shelf solutions like
elevatedx dot com
Most beginners usually just set up stores on clips4sale or kinkbomb and the like. You can brand them as you want after a certain amount of clips but most simply leverage social media and sell them VOD - paysites are a lot harder of a game these days.
>>714036644
Mate you don't need all that high tech fancy shit, just walk up to a girl and tell her "I've got a nicon camera, I'd love to take photograph, it makes me think all the worlds a sunny day ohhh yeah".
>>714036444
Well fuck. Let me find a sharpie. Brb
>>714036444
WINRAR
>>714036892
shut up bitch you're not who I asked
>>714036909
Forgot to erase text. Sharpie was easy to find. Enjoy, assholes!
>>714036909
You're cool, credit for keeping your word.
>>714036909
Those are some sad looking titties
>>714036909
I remember those nipples. you used to post here right? Name starts with a k? also you forgot to post your email
>>714036644
Nice dubs. For POV you want the lighter Sony for sure. Spend the money you save on lighting. My favorite cam for POV is the Canon XA-10 - I have the XA-30 as well but even the extra weight of the more 30 even thought a "better" camera just isn't worth it if you are going to be the one shooting. Meaning there isn't a DP over your shoulder. Spend less on the camera and much more on lighting. The westcott led lights are expensive but oh so amazing. rather drop cash on that then a few extra features in a camera. That said you can start with a basic 3 point softbox set and grow into better and better gear as you progress. Thats how I did it.
>>714036773
I know about clips4sale and manyvids they seem like a quick and easy solution for me without having to put up a load of money up front
What about setting up my own channel on like porn hub and having 5 minute clips like a lot of companies are do?
I noticed wifeysworld as an example has their own presence on porn streaming sites like xvideos and pornhub and xhamster
do they do that to contribute to the site and have the streaming sites working for them as far as taking down the wifeysworld videos and bring in some small ad revenue and get people horny to go to wifeysworld and sign up?
>>714035744
Until you get the title of Guy With Cam and nobody will work with you. The other anon wasn't bullshitting you.
>>714031193
Im an artist. Its great I get to see naked girls all the time. Womens vanity is easily exploitable. My fav model so far is dakini.
>>714032644
then make a pussy lips and butthole thread..
>>714037061
Thanks.
>>714037084
My ass makes up for it. I plan on getting a boob job eventually anyways.
>>714037133
Wow. It's been like 2 years since I posted here, I'm surprised you remember me.
>also you forgot to post your email
Fuck. Here's a throwaway. [email protected]
>>714037220
Ok, I asked the guys I work with about the really high end cameras and they basically told me they are for people who can't focus or white balance....
So I take it you stress the lighting so that if all else fails the video is in focus and well lit so it's still usable no matter what?
Thanks again, I really appreciate the info
>>714037220
That sounds stupid man I ask you for advice and you're just a dumbass who doesn't know anything.
>>714026674
lol white breat is so fucking nasty, I hope that picture has sprouted grains. So fucking yummy, my fav is Ezekiel bread
>>714036644
>>714037220
Note this is for POV, for shooting solo or a b/g that isn't you go with a DSLR. The canon 5DM3 is probably a good way to get going. Just expect to spend a ton on good glass (almost important as lighting.).
>>714037459
You're got aids.
>>714037361
i take a lot of figure drawing classes... sometimes its awesome...sometimes its a pancake boobed hippie
>>714037245
Great for easy publicity. Just don't watermark the lower right as a catchall. thats where most bots will simply overright you. Somehow integrate it as a logo drop in the intro and outro of the clip. Have the models say the name of the site, branded clothing whatever you can use for marketing that cant be replaced with some douche from russia just covering your watermark with theirs.
>>714037358
In your hypothetical, girls who have no modeling experience whatsoever and don't have industry contacts are SOMEHOW learning about me? How?
You're talking out your ass.
>>714033672
i could slap those titties all day long and fuck her asscheeks over and over
>>714018515
Beta's have to scam.
>>714037568
ugh, I would take my time fucking her and having her ride me if I could hold back I would fuck till our genitals were numb
>>714037662
both of them at the same time would be nice with a mother daughter fetish..
>>714037568
Yea thats why i just pick them now. Figure drawing classes can be like russian roulette.
>>714037731
Ok simple enough basically get creative with it...
So that raises another question
How much do you or can you expect models to like say the name of your site or wear your shirt?
Are some "cooler" than others and more relaxed? while others want to simply fuck, take one up top and get paid and leave?
Where do I learn how to act professionally like during a shoot? I am generally a polite and respectable person but I know they have a set standard in LA and LV... I also know there are enough women who have sex for money that are snakes and take advantage of whoever they can...Would it be a good idea to hire some veteran actresses first at a lower rate than the upper end and better known and more popular models so I can kind of let them guide the shoot? How do I go about hiring my first real porn star and what should I expect from her? (I figured I could hire local girls first and work my way up from there until I have enough money to hire a few pros)
>>714037767
Your talent pool is only so large unless you live in a huge metro area. So it will dry up. At least the cute ones. After than you will need to work with agencies. And they will fuck your shit.
Also not to put too much of a point on this but you will need LEGIT model releases and really study 2257 or better have a legal firm representing you.
One slip up can seriously fuck you up with an underage model. Just saying. You need at least 1% level of experience or at least knowledge.
I get this scam idea and sounds great on paper, can it really fuck you over if you don't at least cover the most basic of common sense, well thats on you.
>>714031382
Eh why not
>>714038593
The whore replied here >>714036909 and her e-mail can be found here >>714037421
>>714038274
They will promote your brand as much as you like on set. Thats the easy part for them :)
Regarding onset - making the girls feel comfortable I'm assuming - this really just takes practice. You will be crazy nervous at first and yes that will show, but its okay to be honest with the models. I remember my first b/g - was with a girl who did interacial gangbangs the whole nine. She totally understood and actually appreciated the honesty. In fact gave me a few pointers and basically directed the scene. It gets a lot easier over time, but expect the first shoot to be a hot mess :) Its just the truth. No one is that alpha around a seasoned porn star. Its a lot harder to perform and work then it looks. Just practice.
The best advice is to treat the scene like a business and the talent as a professional.
If it just seems you are there to get blown or what not (even if that's your goal) treat the shoot with respect. Spend time setting up the shots, then enjoy.
>>714036909
Do face
>>714038320
>unless you live in a huge metro area.
I do in fact live in a huge metro area full of starlets and wannabe models. So no. It won't dry up.
>you will need LEGIT model releases
Quick Google search gives me a ton of generic model releases. Done and done. And I don't intend to sell my photos.
>One slip up can seriously fuck you up with an underage model.
I'm gonna say slim chance of that happening. The only scenario is the underage model goes through the trouble of using a fake ID and then...what? Reporting me for taking naked pictures of her? Basically a sting operation? That's a little bit of a stretch. I'll require two forms of ID with birthdates then.
Boom.
>>714039145
I really shouldn't show my face after posting that lol.
>>714039193
Good luck champ.
>>714039233
I know do face with boobs.. You wont die lol
>>714026358
Is this sabu
>>714038910
Thank you again, you're saying basically you are paying them...as long as you're not a retarded asshole who drives them off the set they will fuck you because it's their job and they are at work, so treat them like you'd want to be treated...as far as being nervous just be honest about everything?
Is it good to plan or loosely...like storyboard a shoot out and let the model know before hand "hey, I want to start with a little acting by the window, then we do X and you say Y and we do A, B, C positions"? and be loose about it but make sure you get the shots you need?
So back to the hypothetical question, if I wanted to hire Alexis Texas to do some fetish stuff, would her agency send me a list? Like I see she still feature dances and stuff on facebook, will there be girls like her who have a small list of fetishes, and others who aren't as big of a star who NEED money and refuse to get a regular job who will....I dunno fart in my face and just do whatever is asked? I'll get a list of things they won't do and will do right?
Also how up to date should I expect my STD and their STD tests to be? What is the industry standard, and is it true that X percentage of porn stars have herpes? Is it expected that girls will have a clean slate? What's the standard?
>>714039233
Can we see ur pussy?
>>714039233
Be the best slut today and do a full body mirror front with face.
>>714039474
Its a good idea not to script out a POV scene too much as it will seem robotic but be upfront as to what you expect the scene to be. Most girls will have a "no" list. For example, no hair pulling, no hard slapping etc. Each model is different. Again communication prior to the scene is important as you don't want a lot of edits in a POV.
STDs are on a 14 day cycle and use 3rd party companies. The most used one in the states is TTS - talenttestingservice - com. You can apply for a producer account but they will want to see a somewhat legit looking site. From there when the model arrives on set you both exchange results.
Regarding testing they do NOT test for herpes. I suppose you could ask as a request that they are tested outside of TTS but would probably eat the cost. Just the reality.
>>714018515
I have her email and lots of info. Anyone think they can do something with her?
To the porn producing anon, how do I find out which model works for which agency to book them?
Do I just check their twitter for booking info?
Motley wants me to have a login to look at their model roster...
>>714040058
Damn...the STD testing in Canada is probably going to be different and expensive as fuck...our health care system is shitty compare to the USA where you can just pay for whatever you need...
Are there any other tips or need to knows or do's and don'ts?
I just have this question left >>714040106
thank you again, I really appreciate the information and help
>>714033672
I love this girl, she's my perfect 10.
>>714040106
Yes most will list booking info on their social media pages. Motley does need a login. The guy is really nice though, he's just protecting his models from GWC's - the point of this thread btw :) but really nice guy if you are just honest with him. He's okay with folks starting out, in fact he pretty much specializes in new girls as well not big name talent like LA direct, OC, ATLMA or whatnot. Just wants to ensure their safety and keep the jobs legit.
>>714040337
Sorry I don't know much about shooting in Canada. But happy to have helped. Hope to meet you getting your first AVN award in a year or two! :) Its a really fun business for obvious reasons and some not so obvious. Lots of super friendly and helpful people, lots of sharks as well, but hell if you've been spending time on /b/ for a while pretty easy to spot a bullshitter :)
To porn producer anon
I have one more question, what are some red flags as far as booking models, them showing up, them being drunk/high or fucked up
just in general going through the process what are some red flags?
That's my last question, thank you
>>714040847
Oh
and any horror stories or stories where a model was really great?
Ahhh fuck, so I am looking at LA Direct and Alexis Texas is on there, she's an elegant angel contract girl....I would have to pay them to let her work with me then? Basically they name their price as she's pretty much their asset and might not even let me work with her?
>>714018515
A woman or man audtioning to do porn needs to sign a release form. If a release form isn't signed, any nude photos or videos will be illegal to distribute, especially for commercial purposes.
>>714040387
You can contact her at her youtube - IttyBittyBeck
>>714040847
>>714040900
>>714041286
Question one. Flags:
If booking through a reputable agency its usually not a problem. Lots of girls will smoke pot or what not but rarely run into problems unless backpage girls. Also make it clear that its a "closed" set. Meaning no boyfriends, drivers (dead giveaway its a hooker) etc. You can always meet them at a coffee shop nearby prior to the shoot and cancel if you get a weird vibe, not agency girls, but backpage ones. If agency and the girl is a mess you should get a refund. Document it though, you have cameras :)
Question 2:
Horror stories, not really. Most typical for non agency is that the girl just doesn't show up and you are still on the hook for the HMU (hair makeup) or other shooters you may have hired. Best experiences are the super down to earth models who treat it like a job but a fun one! This seems to be the rule not the exception.
Question 3:
Contract girls are going to be really really hard to book. They work exclusively for their contract. Usually like 12 guaranteed scenes a year etc all coordinated by the company who contracted them. Tough to book. I know you are gunning for Alexis - doesn't hurt to ask, although LA Direct is rough. The owner is kind of a dick to be perfectly honest and charges way too much. ;)
>>714040082
This girl in the bikini or OPs naked girl?
>>714041853
Ok then, Motley you gave a good review for, what other agencies are easy to work with and receptive to a new company/producer?
thanks again, this stuff is gold, I have reached out to companies and even walked into the legal offices that were named in a video where they keep the records and have had no help
is it best to just be honest with the booking companies? Like just tell them "hey I am looking for X I have my studio at clips4sale and would like to hire some professionals"?
>>714037133
Can we fucking knowledge this fucking god? He remembered a chick from fucking 4chan by her nipples and that she had an email and her name started with K, come on that's fucking impressive
>>714040337
good thing small clinical lab testing companies in the US don't give a fuck. Literally get in touch with any mom and pop joint's sales rep and they'll hook it up for a fee.
>>714041863
Bikini
>>714042405
it might be cheaper for my to overnight my blood to the US or just drive it across the border to get tested...our Canadian healthcare system is.....it's a real shit show at times
>>714031382
do it faggot
>>714042550
yup. they'll pay for shipping and also supplies including gloves, needles, shipping, computers, etc. just set up an account and it helps if you have a phlebotomist on hand (pay them $10/hr). When you reach a certain volume, the lab will even hire a phlebotomist for you.
>>714042735
She already did
Hey producerfag, What do you think of Alli Rae? Ever seen her around? Ever worked with Megan Rain?
>those are my 2 faves atm
>>714042849
>>714042369
either that or kinda sad
>>714042252
Cheat sheet:
ATMLA
101modeling
EastCoastTalents
hussiemodels
thevipconnect
360modelsagency
society15
foxxxmodeling
nexxxtleveltalentagency
blackrosetalent
Yup just be honest. Lots of shooters just work on C4S and what not. Won't trip them out. Just be super respectful with the models. They will report back and all studio owners talk to each other.
Also spend a lot of time on xbiz dot net - its an industry community thats super helpful and a great way to network if you are serious - which you seem to be.
>>714042905
>>714033672
she voted for trump
>>714018515
Source or moar?
>>714028167
2016
still shooting crop sensor
>>714035161
If you go on 4chan and introduce yourself as "alpha male" you are not an alpha male, you are a faggot.
Reminds me of that story about a teacher who filed rape charges against some guy because he tricked her into believing a doctor gave him ointment for her aliment and that it had to administered via vaginal intercourse. If you can bait someone into having sex it should be free game kek.
Story attached.
>>714042988
Yep. She used to fuck a black guy, now she's turned completely around and is a complete racist. Hilarious.
>>714042804
my cousins wife is a nurse so she can probably just draw the blood for me...and get everything I need supply wise
>>714042883
this
>>714042907
I used to talk with her a lot back when she used to post, lost touch like a year ago though. I mostly remembered her because she was just really nice . also I've got a thing for redheads and nipple piercings.
>>714043168
i work in two clinical testing labs the biggest one and another as a consultant. we're your bitch. whatever it takes to get your sample in the door. sure.
>>714024802
Are all the stories about that man true? If so, he may rival Hefner.
>>714042974
>>714042957
I've wanted to do this my entire life...I had to put my dog down 3 weeks ago and I am just like...fuck it, you could die tomorrow and I hate working for other people outside of my current job in TV where I work with cameras and a live broadcast so...I have always been into the industry to an extent, just curious and I live in a big university city with 18-25 year old girls everywhere....and the college too....loads of them, these girls need money, at a website like clips4sale nobody will get butthurt if they wear a little mask and they're real amateurs...
I just remember asking my dog, knowing he had 22 hours to live "where do you want to go, what do you want to be"...I have that on video a few times and I was watching it today and I went to my dad's, he quit another job because he just can't work for anyone else...It feels like making quality gonzo/amateur/high end and niche/fetish style porn is my only way to be happy in life, it's weird because it's something I 100% want to do, but it's like getting a regular job and going to school is hard...and getting a camera, some lighting and a clean place is easy...editing video is easy....
I really do appreciate the answers
>>714043772
>>714042051
God damn that chick is sooo hot.
>>714043694
pic related
>my boy
>>714044010
>>714043694
Man - I was the same way. I've been in porn since way back when Persian Kitty was the shit. Always was a webmaster and always was jealous of how fun production looked and how much I saw where I was like fuck, i can do that, and do it better.
I can't say I have any regrets and to be honest, my family, friends, hell even my girlfriend etc are all totally okay with it. Its not as big of a leap as you think.
And yes once the anxiety fades and you get comfortable with your gear it really can be as fun as you think.
I understand all these guys and the spirit of the thread trying to scam some back road trim and get it - but legit can be A-OK too :)
>>714044053
Awwwww puppers. I'm sorry man. Looks like a good little man. My condolences.
>>714044282
>>714042849
raven riley was my porn crush when I was super young, i remember watching her clips before I even knew what masturbation was
>>714044329
>>714044574
>>714044155
dude scamming a girl in Canada will get her brother and her dad at your door kicking the shit out of you...there is no point, if you do it right you can make enough money to piss off for the winters and do a Rocco style "anon invades Bulgaria" and "anon ravishes Russia"...
>>714044315
thank you, I have his sister from the same litter as well, best advice I received was "you gotta be strong for her"
I had their mom too, and after she was run over by a motorcycle I looked at this boxing gym across the street from my apartment and I had always wanted to join it...I just thought "well...if you don't you're going to die one day and you'll have never done it" I feel the same way about porn more and more each day
pic related is the sister
>>714044574
Simples
>>714044155
LA PORN PRODUCER ANONFAG
PLS RESPOND:
>>714042883
>>714044868
>>714045004
>>714045129
>>714044784
shit this made me sad all of a sudden. my doggo looked just like that when I first got her, she passed away about a month ago, a week after she turned 14.
>>714045305
>>714044784
Cute mom too :)
Don't think about it as a new you or a new path in life. Just something to try at first. No reason to tell a lot of people about it or invest a ton in equipment. Just rent cams and lights for the first shoot. Also a good way to find out what type of gear you prefer.
Don't let the agencies or locations or even gear trip you up at first. Just make "something" happen and see how you feel.
Avoid the bigger agencies / talent when starting as you will just put a lot of undue pressure on yourself. Hence blackrose or motley as a good way to start. The girls are all new as well, most of them. So they aren't expecting some mansion in Vegas or LA with a 5 person crew etc.
Just enjoy and have fun. Sounds like you have the aptitude and we could use more down to earth folks in the biz anyways so welcome aboard :)
>>714045386
>>714045443
>>714045530
>>714045798
>>714045425
Thanks again, I will give you a shout out if I ever get on a mic at the AVN's
>>714042687
>>714037388
Kek
The backdrop is actually just your dirty bed sheet.
And the funniest part is bitches are too dumb to realise it and still get nude.
>>714045845
>>714046079
>>714046169
mooorrreee
>>714046169
shes perfect
who is this
>>714046169
>>714046498
>>714046542
>>714046768
>>714021907
got doxed
>>714046811
https://vid.me/v4G
>>714047095
>>714028482
2/10 posture
>>714047134
>>714047186
>>714047295
>>714047309
>>714036909
>manhands
>>714047348
>>714047415
>>714047465
>>714043088
what was the verdict?
>>714043610
>apple
would not bang
>>714047614
>>714034082
It's actually a Nigex GhettoMaster.
>>714047677
>>714047708
>>714047826
https://v.eroshare.com/f9glr6wl.mp4