How long would it take to get a body like this
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How long would it take to get a body like this
Depends on how much rohypnol you have to hand, I guess.
>>713938372
with or without steroids?
>>713938517
Without
>>713938556
8 monthes of intense training. Gotta have the right body morph.
>>713938372
Could be 3 or 6 years, depends on your Genes.
>>713938612
training AND diet.
>>713938620
>>713938612
Top kek. Who's right
>>713938655
>Could be 3 or 6 years, depends on your Genes.
this one : Could be 3 or 6 years, depends on your Genes.
What are you starting as right now?
8-9 months with intesive training and DIET
>>713938744
Not really skinny but a little bit of muscle. Benching about 185 currently and my body weight is at 188 but my body fat is pretty high I should've taken a pic before I went to work.
A regular gym goer would get that in 18 months with steds.
His muscle mass is not that excessive, just great conditioning.
He's defo done this with steds. You can match the conditioning but not eh mass without them.
>>713938655
I'd say 8 Month, talking from personal experience.
But thats only if you never cheat on your plan, so 1-1.5 years is more realistic
>>713938372
This was him six years ago brah.
>>713938372
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA8DdkM2Wqo
>>713938854
How can you tell
>>713938517
>>713938556
>>713938517
>"Without steroids"?
Seriously? Never ever, you fucking faggots.
>>713938372
depends on where you start from. and your body type. makes sense, no?
>pic related is a difference of 18 months. t's me
>>713938372
Anyone who says under 3 years of hardcore working out and diet is a faggot who is half that size but thinks he looks like that.
>>713938911
I've trained in a shithole powerlifting gym for ten years. 90 percent of the serious trainers are on gear. Those that work their ass off have similar conditioning but never have the mass without steroids. Just doesn't happen.
You've got to be pretty naive to think that most top level athletes are banging the gear so why would an actor give a shit about taking them.
17 minutes
>>713939041
Haha that's not you, faggot.
>>713939116
it is, faggot. tell me, why is it not me?
>>713939041
Routine?
>>713938508
Underrated.
Kek.
>>713938612
i think it would take longer than 8 months natural. i would guess (at a minimum) 2 years of 5 day a week regimen in a (caloric) surplus.
>>713939013
Lol thats naturally 100% possible newfag. After 2 years of training i reached i bodyform like this...
>>713939172
actually extremely simple. to the point where /fit/fags would rage. very unbalanced. only for the looks.
>situps/crunches
>push ups
>biceps curls
>wrist curls
>all till exhaustion
>a lot of cycling, running, walking stairs (i.e. office on 5th floor, never took elevator as a smoker that went downstairs 1/hr)
>very healthy diet, except for beer
thats all. I am probably not strong. but the ladys dig it
>>713938372
I've been training continuously for three years. Went from 55kg to 85kg (with two proper cycles of steroids). It takes yeaaaars to get a good body. Even fith my diet on point i dont look good. Although ive technically been bulking and NEVER done a cutting diet...
Maybe i should do that...
Im strong as fuck though. Stronger then all my friends.
>>713938710
This
>>713938710
You need Gene from Steroids+
Not going to get there Natty.
>>713939448
How much is your max bench?
It would take a few hours of Photoshopping, easy.
>>713939500
you read my post? how the hell am I suppoosed to know?
>>713938372
age, diet, genes, current condition and most importantly if you don't have the drive it'll never happen. Ready to go the the gym 6 days a week and lift?
>>713939452
Dieting is key here. Was at 138kg, started diet until i hit 120, started training. Unsatisfied with results cause of the things you said. More diet plus heavy training. I'm at 100kg now and things starting to look good as this goes on
How does one know if he has good genetics for muscle building? I'm not talking muscle insertions and how they look more about how to know if you have good muscle recover time and you get stronger faster
>>713939540
Prolly 2 plates
>>713938372
2 years
>>713939448
Hurr durr I know nothing about lifting so I degrade other peoples efforts to feel good
It would take years of a dedicated program to get to that guys level a minimum of 3 hours every two days for 2-4 years depending on genetics
>>713938372
You gonna have a hard time achieving this staying natty. Depending on the state of your body at the moment, you could look like you lift after 2-3 years of intense training.
>>713939116
It isn't even the same person. Look at the hair...
>>713939697
possibly. maybe. don't care. wasn't the goal
>>713939748
>so I degrade other peoples efforts to feel good
how did I degrade anyone? plz explain
>>713939805
>look at the hair.
>18 months difference
hair grows, you know? I can also give you a pic of me with shoulder long hair.
idiot
>>713939041
how the fuck did you do that in 18 months
>>713939870
Fukin why do you have curves? Ftm trans?
>>713939870
Honestly it really depends how consistent you can be with exercise and diet. First off did you clean bulk or dirty bulk?
>>713939947
Top kek I get most my fat in my stomach area
>>713939870
>over bulked
You're supposed to add muscle when you bulk.
>>713939870
>Over bulked
Lost
>>713939968
Dirty bulk I went from 150-188 in a matter of 6 months but I gained some strength my bench went up 70 pounds and but I know they were beginner gains
>>713939925
was actually less. it's been a while though. doesn't disprove my point though. see pic attached
sorry about penis
>>713939805
does this convince you more?
>>713940041
Why would you even try to bulk at that point? It's not like you wouldn't make progress otherwise. Now you look like a fat lady.
>>713940128
my legs are growing like that, except i still have beer gut.
inb4 woo!! get it out son.
even if i train only once a week, i go straight for heavy leg exercises. love it.
>>713938825
>intesive training
Training 8-10 hours a day with one day of rest per week.
It's not impossible but very unlikely.
>>713938372
60days if you follow my pr9gram for 300 $. 100% guarantee it works champ
>>713938372
He is skipping leg day.
>>713940128
You were already working out when you started taking pics.
So add the 18 months to that.
>>713940291
>8-10 hours a day with one day of rest per week
BS
Is this the Caucasian Old Boy room?
>>713940380
You're not getting cut like that in 8 months unless you've already been working out for a year before that at the very least.
>>713938372
2 years period
>>713940368
not really. hadn't worked out in 2 years when I started the pics
>>713940041
I'm not 100% sure what you want out of this, but you obviously want to be strong or you want to have a toned physique. Look at how much water you drink, how much sleep you get, if you're eating enough nutrients to even develop muscle growth, etc. I can't say much from a picture, but from experience I would say in about a year if you have time for an hour (3 days a week) and if you can do more, then do more. Only piece of advice is that you need to remember that a toned body shouldn't be the goal, it should be a bi-product of being healthy.
>>713938372
I'd say a minute, tops, if you're quick with a knife and are parked nearby
>>713938372
Shoulder + arms 1,5 years if you go every second day for intensive training and much sleep + a lot of eating.. the chest is not much build.. you can do this within 8 monts and fuck off the abs.. thats just low carb diet with minimal training.. and shit look at the feet.. maybe one month training.. so all in one 2 - 3 years.. calculate lazy days and sickness..
Depends on starting point
>>713938372
I'm a professional trainer so i can say without doubt that you need at least 2 years of intense training and diet to achieve that body without steroids. High-protein diet, training at least 4 days every week (for example monday, wednesday, friday at the gym, saturday running (high intensity) no more than 40 minutes and rest on sunday integrating with at least 4 meals and supplements of b12,b6,magnesium and BCAA [you can use them at a lower dose during the week but not too much or you will damage your kidneys and liver])
>>713938372
It will all be for nothing if you are a manlet.
>>713939570
Im just trying to bulk up to like 90kg or so but i cant seem to even get past 85kg. Seems like no matter what calories i intake i just dont gain weight past that.
>>713939452
"Went from 55kg to 85kg (with two proper cycles of steroids)
Im strong as fuck though. Stronger then all my friends."
You'r on fucking steroids lol. And probably without the other drugs you need to prevent the bitch tits you now have. loser
>>713938372
Looks like he skipped legday so about two-three years.
>>713941050
I had 10 months in between both cycles and my weight and strength stayed the same. Theres only so much one persons genetics allows them to get too.
>>713940890
The only answer that makes sense. How long have you been working as a trainer?
>>713939430
>totally
>>713941193
Since 2005 m8.
>pic related
>>713938372
3 years minimum wo gear. I went from 140 to 210lb in 6 years clean. I ate a lot. You'd need to eat lean. Greens, grilled white meats, fish, shakes with water. I'm 12% bf now (guy in pic is like 15-20). 385 bench, 550 dead, 515 squat (exp)
>>713941688
Nice body also checked
>>713939430
and you're still on /b?
>>713940608
such lies
>>713940128
what change happened between October 2008 and Feb 2009?
it depends on how fat are u atm
>>713939041
How did you regrow your hair on the top of your head faggot?
>pics are mixsd up
> the one on the left is newest
Show us what you're dealing with OP
No bodyfat/Obese can take a very long time and an intense diet and training program. (around 2 years)
But with completely average body weight and naturally fuller body you can do this in just under a year.
These are hardcore time frames (Very strict training and expensive dieting every single day.)
>>713938620
This or 1-2 with steroids
>>713943179
i loled
>>713938372
Not long. A few quick stabs somewhere vital in a gym. Voilà. Body like that.
>>713938612
Wow, you really don't know shit, do you?
>>713938556
1-2 years of good training and diet. also depends on your genetics
Ask /fit/
>>713940128
you dont look any bigger you just look like you cut
>>713941015
you should try to take track of your calorie intake. that´s what i did.
in the first few months it was 1800 max. someday i recognized i don´t have the energy to complete my training. then i set the maximum on 2300. got a little fat back but i´m fine with that. don´t wanna look too shredded tho
>>713938372
Depends on your body at the moment.
I'd say about 1 year.
But you REALLY REALLY need to do a strict and intense training and diet.
At least work out 5 times a week until you just pass out. Eat/drink a lot of proteins after the training. I started to do a strict work out and diet plan about 7 months ago, and I'm not a beast like that guy on the picture but I gained a lot of muscles during that time, you just need to be strict, and never cheat!
>>713938372
Honest answer from someone who body builds and *used* to look like that. Probably never. Most guys reach a plateau and they will never get any bigger without juicing. I used to look like that and I used to juice.
Clean diet and working out every day is only gonna get you so far. After that point you need to introduce more hormones to continue to get more muscular.
OP, is likely on trenbalone, which I highly don't recommend. But if you must. Work out for 3 or more years, get daily about it. Get your diet perfectly dialed in (if you have any flab, it's not dialed in). Then, if you have to, juice inject testosterone (steroid pills are actually far more dangerous than shooting test).
Note that you will likely lose at least 75% of any gains made by juicing when you finally quit. Most likely all.
And a frequent problem with someone that used to juice is you get used to eating like 3000+ calories a day and if you can't stop eating that way when you stop juicing, you're gonna quickly put weight back on. Also, even with proper PCT there's likely to be an estrogenic resurgence making you even more likely to get fat when quitting.
Why arent any of you fags pointing out the fact that lighting makes such a difference. This picture isnt representative of what that guy looks like.
Factors to consider:
- why you want to gym. If you have no motivation or if your only motivation is for someone else then forget about it.
- Are you prepared to put in the work?
- Genetics play a part in relation to muscle synthesis
- Are you going to approach it intelligently? i.e. training, diet & rest.
- Train legs ffs. This guy clearly doesnt.
Side Note: You do not have to be really strict. It's a lifestyle, not a diet.
- the guy's BF is hovering around 10% but that is easily maintainable.
- If anyone says its below 10% then that is being dishonest.
>>713938372
At the very least 1-2 years.
Assuming your genes are okay and you're naturally muscular.
>>713945256
Im eating 4000+ a day lol
>>713945489
If this post is at all true, I bet you have grandma titties now
>>713945825
shit man
well, always depends on your activity level. i don´t walk too much at work and am sitting at least 8 hours a day, so i can´t eat too much before i start to get fat again
>>713945944
I'm in middle age and I'm a fat fuck. And I didn't really become a fat fuck til after my last cycle ended.
It's easy to do like a couple month-long cycles a year and maintain your beastly musculature, which I used to do... but when I quit them all, it was hard to cut down on steroid eating, I was dating a fat bitch who was a good cook, and I had a serious back injury which prevented me from lifting for months. So in like a 12 month span I went from god to dadbod.
That being said, I don't feel like juicing anymore. The mood swings were fucking crazy. But I will say this much, women KNOW when a male has high testosterone; I've never done so well with women, and that was even at the beginning of my cycles before I became big. Women know how much test you got and show interest accordingly.
>>713938372
Honest answer? Not long at all.
It's a trick used by plenty of hollywood actors. Eat plent of meats, drink plenty of protein shake and just hit the gym daily. Note though, this method is not is not without risks and some fitness experts were mad about this method. You can easily get heart attack and kidney related problems.
>>713946694
Hollywood actors notoriously do roids dude. I have a little bit of info with you. NO ONE CAN PUT ON LIKE 75 LBS off muscle like Christian Bale in 6 months.
Seriously from like The Machinest where he was a 100lbs anorexic to his next movie where he was like 200lbs of muscle... that shit ain't natural dude. And you're a fool who's never worked out seriously if you think that it is.
Hollywood notoriously uses roids to beef up for roles.
>>713938612
Don't listen to these DYEL retards, that would take 5 years naturally, 2 years with gear....pic related
>>713946879
I suppose it makes sense, not like the actor's guild would ever drug test kek
>>713938372
Why bother?
Chicks aren't worth it, just flash some cash and dress well.
>>713946955
lookin great man
>>713940128
i think the second or third picture looks the best, i don't like overly muscular guys
that breast muscle though, love it
>>713947136
well you know there are women who don't fall for money, right?
>>713948729
Tit's or gtfo.
Some just need more money than others.
>>713948729
You mean the ones in the psych ward?
>>713938372
without gear? years i guess
>>713938372
2-3 years if you train hard and put yourself on the right diet
>>713940128
You're uncircumcised. You'll be saying sorry about your penis forever
>>713946955
And you cant afford gear so go natural.
Also the younger you are the better.
>>713948876
dick or gtfo
>>713948896
no, not everyone in this world thinks money is the most important thing ever.
>>713949289
You do realIze gear is cheap as shit right
>>713938372
FINALLY, QUESTIONS THAT MATTER
>>713938372
> ITT: /fit/ fags who wasted their lives training when all you need is a few pushups and heavy squats a day
>>713946955
It's the current year, how can people still take pictures that bad and out of focus? The camera does all the work getting the focus right and people still fuck it up.
With steroids and dedication: 18-24 months
With out steroids but with perfect diet and training and great genes: 30-48 months
For the average lifting enthusiast: 5 years
Check out /r/progress to get an idea of actual results and timelines with and without steroids.
>>713938372
Diet is super important. You would need to really stick to the diet. If you cant commit to the dietary requirements then don't bother dreaming about it. Next would be a detailed exercise routine. You need to be dedicated and take it seriously and sleep on a schedule. It's discipline.
>>713949380
No you're right their are some deep gals out there that way prefer muscles to cash.
>>713949808
Thank you
I can do it in 1 year with 100% effort.
2 years with 90% effort.
Yes, it matters that much.
>>713949254
top kek retard
>>713949808
Actually he has no legs so shave off 6-9 months off my estimates. It's much easier to add mass when you aren't wrecking and recovering your glutes, hams and quads every week.
>>713949254
Only in 'murica.
In Europe girls don't care and you get to enjoy the massively more enjoyable sexual sensations.
Chopping it off is like a woman losing her clit. Sucks to be jew
>>713949899
i like guys who are sort of fit (not fat) but not overly muscular and you know there are other qualities to a man...
>>713950316
Dick size.
I feel ya gurl.
>>713946187
you ever inject it right into your nutsack?
>>713950728
i was about something other than dick size :D
i don't like huge cocks, meant qualities important for a serious relationship where dick size is nowhere enough
>>713951559
Yeah their ride. You don't want no scrub
>>713949254
Something like 48% of newborns in the U.S. for the past 10 years have been uncircumsized. Its on the decline in the u.s.1
>>713939430
two years huh? lol gtfo skinny bitch
>>713940608
Ok so add whatever it was before because OP is starting at zero and in your first pic you've clearly retained muscle mass or you're lying and you had been lifting.
>>713938372
Got enough money? I can have one in your house in a couple of hours
>>713944352
Grab a cookie
>>713949254
>giving foreskins to the jews
No.
How long starting from this body
>>713942564
Weener got a couple cm longer
>>713953547
roids
>>713953547
100mgs test P
100mgs tren A
100mgs mast P
Every other day
Would take about 15 weeks if you ate correctly and bust ass in the gym
>>713954323
Pic related. Been juicing for awhile
>>713953547
Op how old are you?
>>713954402
Been thinking about it. What side effects have you experienced
>>713954480
21 took this pic like 3 months ago why?
>>713954505
Uhhh incredible fuck game. Dick harder then a rock, ability to fuck 5-8 times a day, beast mode workouts, tons of attention from bitches
>>713954535
Because if you were like 17 or some shit don't fuck with roids. 21 is about as early as you want to start
>>713954505
You're only going to get side effects if you run like 1000mgs of test or more a week. Hence why I run 300-400 and only 300-400mgs of mast and tren.
>>713954588
Unsure about it still but most likely wouldn't because of financial reasons. Heard its extremely expensive
>>713954646
Ya it can be. Typically $60-100/vial a 15 week cycle of test mast and tren would require 5 vials of each plus your post cycle
It's pricey but worth it
>>713954566
Uhh, guys. Is this guy legit? Should we all just start juicing if this is the case? Are there literally no negative consequences?
>>713938372
I cant believe all the couch fitness experts responding. And the
>>trust me im a trainer
>>i have the same build
>>not without roids
Listen op. You can reach pic related in under a year no prob. It all boils down to one thing: discipline.
Ppl who say u could never achieve that quickly have no discipline so they think its impossible. Its not. After 3 weeks of proper regimen diet and exercise u will start to see major results. I went from 162 lbs to 195 in 5 months from doing push ups, curls and presses and mountain biking and eating a lot of lean meat and beans and veggies. Best trick is eat 4-5 meals per day ( nojunk) and workout 4 days a week and sleep plenty. inb4 tldr
>>713955428
If you aren't a dumbass l, yes.
>>713938372
forever
>>713939041
Putin?
>>713955428
You can run hcg with your cycle to prevent your nuts shrinking, you can run an AI aromasin, arimedex, letrozole, etc to prevent gyno and like I said don't run a fuck ton of test or deca and you'll be fine
>>713955496
what would be a dumbass mistake?
>>713955592
jeezus, seems like they just multiply
>>713955857
Pfff.... buying bullshit gear.
Running a stupid stack, running a fuck ton of gear, NOT POST CYCLING if you don't post cycle and don't post cycle properly well, congratulations you fucked yourself. You could get gyno, you fuck your natural test and maybe it takes up to a year to recover, maybe it never recoveres
>>713955917
What do you mean?
>>713954402
How do you afford the stuff? Are you taking testosterone or some other thing?
>>713956053
I'm taking testosterone propionate trenabolne acetate masterone propionate and I think in that pic I was taking d-bol or anadrol
Now I'm just taking test P and mast P about to come off for a while
>>713956053
And I have a job dumbass. Lol
>>713956053
And I also take arimidex to prevent gyno related sides
>>713940890
Accurate untill the supplements-part, its mostly bullshit
>>713956147
Yea I have a job as well but I can't afford spending 1K a month on the shit
>>713956537
We'll get a better job. And it's not $1k a month maybe $200
>>713956504
Agreed not a single mention of beta alanine. for shame.
>>713954566
and the downsides?
>>713956634
Or age that makes a huge difference.
>>713956602
Its a pretty good fucking job and the only shit I have ever been offered was way to expensive also I dont want to have to restart my testosterone once done with a (session, run, what the fuck is it called)
Guys. I´m gonna do creatine, what am I in for?
>>713956674
Slight increase in blood pressure
Shorter temper
That's about it I don't run a Fuck ton of gear so I don't get many side effects.
The more shit you run, the more side effects you'll get so just keep the test under 500mgs/week and you'll be fine.
Once you start running 800+ per weeek side effects will come in
>>713940128
how'd you cut? just calorie counting? or intermittent fasting, keto?
>>713946955
Love how people think you can take one cycle and get hella jacked
>>713957051
Drinking lots of water make sure you do the load phase right or its just a waste. Also you will put on 5-10 lbs of water weight only do it for 6 month cycle then go 3 months off.
I tend to get a better burn in my workouts when I am using it. I love the stuff but others don't due to the water weight gain Get some beta alanine and if you are over 30 some ZMA and Tribulus. Take glutamine for a post workout drink.
>>713956009
you gotta take this thing to compensate for taking this thing, which compensates for this and so on
>>713958584
And that's how you have no side effects ;)
Proof that it can be done under 6 months. That too by a 52 year old guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aVw1gZ9Ncg
>>713958766
Holyshit that's amazing
>>713951559
Ah, the classic Not all Women meme.
>>713958759
it never ends
>>713958766
38% bodyfat to 9.67% bodyfat in 5 months. What sorcery is this.
>>713959357
genetics
>>713958766
he is indian movie actor , got shitton of money and time to slepp
