S/fur : not actually posting edition.
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S/fur : not actually posting edition.
And if anyone is wondering why I do drugs, it's because I fucking hate myself and want to die, and am trying to destroy my body. Don't do that.
>>713788947
I don't advocate, I just think it's interesting to hear a philosopher's take on it. He essentially says that in moderation, the perceptual distortion of mind altering drugs (be they wine, hemp, etc) can destroy barriers and work to liberate a man from his prejudices. That in order to more effectively consider other points of view, a statesman has a duty to partake in substances that will inhibit their prejudices ("opening their minds").
I do say "sod off" to all the fags who see a piece of art and think "man he must have been on so much shit to make this". Like fuck off.
>>713788356
I'm certainly not saying that full blown "suckin' dicks in the alley to pick up a 20 dollar score" is a healthy thing, but I used to be quite a psychonaut. The amount of shit I learned about human behavior, the workings of the nervous system and the brain, and psychology... totally worth it. There's very little that can change a mind as much as experiencing something like total ego death, or being able to see what happens when your subconscious processing manifests as hallucinations.
I'll always fondly remember the time I was working as a cashier, and I was counting inventory. I heard two glass bottles clink together, and I turned around immediately expecting a customer to be at the counter waiting for me with a pair of pink and blue Sobe bottles. When I turned around to address the situation, the person was still on the totally opposite side of the store and hadn't even shut the fridge doors yet. I realized that I KNEW what they were getting from the pitch of the glass clanking together and what they were getting by the sound's location in relation to my position. I realized I was so fucked up that my subconscious was literally making me hallucinate the future, and I watched it happen over and over all night, I sorta got in tune with just how FAST the brain can process tiny shit like that, and I also came to a much greater understanding of paranoia and reflexes.
Stuff like that changes you for the better, plenty of spiritual experiences to be had
>>713789673
gonna take you a while if you're just smoking weed
Hiiii! OH wait...
>>713789722
See, I don't think it "opens your mind". It alters it in ways that changes reality when you shouldn't do that. Again, life fucking sucks, so deal with it. I use drugs not to feel better, but because I hate myself for taking them.
>>713789843
Don't worry, I'm definitely going to try worse. I've always wanted to try heroin. Heroin OD sounds like a good way to die.
I forgot to take my tripcodes with me.
>>713790055
Hey Filenames.
I bought a Dell Inspiron 7537 for $160, almost brand new, and I downgraded it to Windows 7 Ultimate. <3
>>713790157
Hi bud! How are you?
>>713790259
As shitty as always I guess. You?
>>713790048
I would advise against heroin
had a friend who struggled with addiction to it, not pretty
there are cheaper ways to kill yourself that don't also drag down people around you
>>713790305
Honestly, I'm very happy again. There's been a lot of good things happening as of late. Transmission is almost done being rebuilt, learned how to unlock FRP (Google Lock) devices, and I might get a factory job and a new place! <3
So any particular reason why you feel that way today?
>>713790250
Those panties blend in -_-
>>713788947
I know it sounds like rationalization of a junkie, but I really did learn a hell of a lot. The first time I fucked around with doses of stuff like methylphenidate, I learned a lot about dopamine's effects on the nervous system and how it affects the translation of will into action. I'll always remember the first time I went to set down a glass of water on a counter and jerked my arm so fast I almost threw the damned thing across the room. I started paying attention to reflex time and which ones work when and how, and how dopamine levels or sober changes in consciousness affect the amount of... "mental effort" required to get a certain amount of action out of muscles.
In all that silliness, I actually managed to learn to listen to my body and reflexes and much better. Over the course of a few weeks, I managed to go from an oblivious clutz (albeit with good hand-eye coordination anyway) to someone who never trips over anything, never drops shit or stumbles, can feel an ankle start to twist and adjust their weight to land properly before any harm's done. I learned enough about myself to permanently change my own control of my body. There's a lot to be learned from drugs if they're used responsibly by an inquisitive and understanding mind.
Also, after my two-year binge of basically doing all the drugs under the sun and then some, I basically quit altogether. There wasn't a whole lot more to be learned, and I stopped
>>713790390
I knew that's exactly what you were going to say because everyone says that. So why is one drug better than another? They serve the same purpose of making you feel different then you would sober. Why do people have a problem with heroin, but not weed? They're both addictive. Why should levels of addiction make something okay versus not okay?
>>713790587
Glad to hear you're doing well.
No. Just hate myself like always. This place is a disease. I always feel like shit when I'm here. I don't know why I still come here.
>>713790843
Because you don't wanna be alone?
>>713789763
I partially agree. I don't think any amount of any drug can actually give you foresight, but the things they do to our perception of time is fascinating. The human mind is capable of so much more than we give it credit for - like when our senses speed up to take in info and we perceive it as time slowing down, even if our physical side can't react fast enough. I fucking LOVE the human mind-body connection.
What's really cool is how it's not just the mind that drugs affect, but our bodies. The reason pot makes people paranoid isn't just THC interacting with receptors in the brain, but because your body reacts by shortening your breath and speeding up your heart. Same principle with things like alcohol, ect.
>>713790048
>I use drugs because I hate myself for taking them
Sounds like you have some indulgent self-loathing you need to work out. Not to be a hippy about it, but self-love is as addictive and twice as rewarding. Plus indulging yourself in self-loathing is a great way to wind up in some really shitty situations.
>>713790645
For sure, in moderation, drugs can have positive effects. By the same token, though, I noticed the more I smoked reefer, the more I dropped things, tripped, lost my train of thought, and got dizzy even when sober. You've just got to be responsible. All life experience is good experience when you learn from it!
>>713790910
Maybe. I don't know.
>>713789673
There are much more efficient ways to destroy a life than drugs, yo. Consider things like simple machines, even the lowly wedge. Manage to hit the lower chambers of the heart with one of these and your job's done in seconds
>>713789049
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA8DdkM2Wqo
>>713791002
That's always been my guess. But I like you!
>>713791029
I like to feel something when I'm destroying myself. Why suffer through pain of suicide when I can enjoy it?
What was the name of the comic last thread? The obe with coffee and muffin.
>>713790645
And what does that really matter? You're still changing something that doesn't need to be changed.
>>713790976
I'm already in a shitty situation. I don't care about anything other than dying.
>>713791376
Then love me!
>>713791134
I don't know why anyone would, but whatever.
>>713791432
I can't just make myself love someone. I'm already in love, and I hate it.
>>713791446
You tend to be happy rarely. And I love being there when you are.
>>713791497
In love? With who!?
>>713790678
Because of the way it fucks with your shit and risk factors associated with different types of drugs. No addiction is okay, but some forms are less dangerous. Marijuana is virtually harmless compared to other drugs.
If marijuana is addictive, it's a phychological addiction, not a physical addiction as with opiates like heroin. The chemistry is different. For instance, within the first month of using methamphetamine, over 30% of the reward center in your brain will have been destroyed, which means your "simple pleasure" center is starting to fail. Essentially, little things like cleaning the house or taking care of your children means nothing anymore - the only thing that rewards you is your meth. Which is exactly the reason smokers need a cigarette after a meal. The reward isn't in the meal itself, it's in the treat they get after eating.
>>713791621
Some faggot. But I guess that makes me a faggot too. Of course, I only hate myself more for it.
>>713791672
Maybe I'm just a jaded prick, but I still think all drugs are wrong, even prescription drugs.
>>713791708
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jo7yGvpWVsI
>4 seconds in
But yeah man. Why hate that? Love is pretty good.
>>713789687
it's too bad the artwork is mediocre, the concept is so fucking hot
>>713792066
>Dubs
>Gorsha
<3
>>713791939
I didn't say they weren't. Just that some are more harmful than others. Pretty sweet words coming from someone who uses them too.
Also, fun fact, prescription drugs are the second-most abused drug in the US. After caffeine of course.
>>713792031
Because liking the same sex is wrong in my opinion.
>>713792178
Then don't do it?
>>713792129
Then I want what will destroy myself the fastest. I don't care about anything anymore.
>>713790678
do some reading on reward dependence mechanisms in the brain
weed and heroin affect these mechanisms in completely different ways
I'm too inebriated to give a proper thorough explanation at the moment sorry
just has to do with the types of neurotransmitters and feedback loops that are affected
stuff like heroin and chronic alchohol use can pretty much permanently fuck up how your brain rewards you for doing 'good' stuff and make it so that basic things like eating and sex no longer are pleasurable ever
>>713790976
>learn from it
That's the important bit.
>>713791322
Perhaps it's changing something that doesn't need to be changed, but learning and changes in perception can lead to greater understanding. Change is never necessary... but it can be beneficial. Changing ability to compartmentalize can allow working alongside someone you desperately want to murder for the good of both parties, practicing empathy until you can honestly understand another point of view is useful. It's all more information to work with when making decisions
Like I mentioned, wasn't advocating being permanently fucked up just because "I'M SOOOO HIIIGHH DOOOOD", just that changes in perspective can be useful (especially when based on information or understanding), and are actually necessary for advancement
>>713792227
Oh, right, like 19 years of self-loathing and completely ignoring huge parts of myself has changed that.
>>713792103
She represents the girl version of me, wish I had a girlfriend like that
>>713792294
I'm fully aware of the differences between them, but I still think it's absurd that people judge others for taking one drug, but not another.
>>713792377
I just don't understand your emo ways. And I should know, I'm pretty emo myself.
>>713790678
also your brain work becuase of drugs
things like food and exercise cuase the same kind of chemical changes in the brain that a lot of drugs do, they're just kind of a shortcut
this obviously can lead to problems like addiction but it also makes drugs an integral tool for maintaining good mental health - people who have deficient brain chemistry for whatever reason can get themselves to a 'normal' level by using whatever drugs
>>713792475
that's just usual social taboo nonsense
"drugs I like and use are ok (alcohol caffeine nicotine) drugs people I don't like use (dirty spic/nigger drugs like weed!) are bad"
>>713789722
aw bruv super fucking agree with that sentiment
I'm big into dance music and people around me are always on about "lol that music is only good on drugs" like fak off cunt
>>713792342
Changes in perspective don't truly change reality.
>>713792561
What's there to not understand? I'm a faggot who likes boys and animals, and I hate myself for it because it's wrong.
>>713792611
Food and exercise work in entirely different ways because they release dopamine naturally, and are necessary for survival. Drugs aren't.
>>713792838
So then why would you have a problem with me taking heroin?
>>713792941
Why is it wrong? Give me a legitimate answer.
>>713792237
If you want not to care, then meth or alcohol is your best bet. They both attack the reward center of the brain first, then vital functions. But if death is the end game, I think heroin's the most dangerous. It's either overdose or AIDS. Of course if you change your mind, you'll have to deal with the inconceivable pain of your clothes touching your skin since your body isn't interested in producing its own opiates anymore.
>>713792342
>the whole second half of your post
Literally what I've been trying to say. Thank you. Stoners piss me off for that exact reason, and the "functioning stoners" every bit as much. You're still not in your right mind, I don't care that you can scan my Doritos just fine. I've experimented with pot and LSD, and once with DMT as personal development tools. When people just use drugs as an escape because they can't handle reality or they're trying to be part of some obscure counter-culture they lose their medicinal value.
Speaking of, Canada's pharmaceutical minister has pretty much said point-blank that the reason people die from Molly is because of impurities and is currently pushing for pharmaceutical companies to make it and it be safe to use.
>>713792294
This. When I drink or toke, I don't eat.
>>713792996
Because it isn't what nature intended, and is detrimental to the survival of a human if placed in an environment void of technology. Anyone who likes animals would get eaten by them in nature, and anyone who likes the same sex would fail to pass on their genetics. That doesn't sound like a problem until you throw in what civilization has done to us.
>>713792475
Other perspective changes and thingies... ever looked at basic human behaviors as drugs? Like the mindstate of children and how it's affected by neurochemistry as much as development, how basic shit like playing on a swing or someone chewing on ice cubes can essentially be drugs (albeit crappy ones). Changes in perception and addictive behavior, etc. Even how people can get addicted to the idea of love/romance while getting little from the emotions themselves... my mother had that issue. We are organic bodies, part of the universe and the physics that go with it. Everything is a drug in its own way
>>713793173
AKA, you care about what people think. Not passing along your genetic code isn't always a bad thing. As far as loving animals in a sexual way, social Darwinism is what'll make you either live or die.
I'm probably using that wrong, but hopefully you get the idea.
>>713792941
your brain can't tell the difference between what it releases 'naturally' and what you artificially induce
it's why people can get addicted to activities, like gambling or working out
it's just another way of cheating your brain chemistry and one of the best parts about being an organism that can reflect on its own mental state
taking things like heroin is bad because they can irrevocably damage your psyche
I don't actually have a problem with people taking opiates from a moral standpoint, but it tends to be self-destructive rather than therapeutic like a lot of drugs can be
>>713793173
Yeah except we don't live in nature and we don't need any more babies. Franklin also told his President that freight trains could travel at 20mph and "God [nature] surely never intended for Man to travel as such a speed". And not passing on your genetic material might actually be a good thing.
>>713793366
Of course I care about what everyone thinks. I care about everyone. That's why I don't like drugs. This all comes back to empathy. I don't want people doing those kinds of things to themselves.
>>713793466
Yet don't seem to care about yourself. You can't care about others if you don't care about yourself first. Took me rolling my car to appreciate myself and think highly of myself.
>>713793452
All drugs do the same fucking thing. They ALL change your psyche.
>>713793569
Took me a loaded shotgun to my own head to realize that I should have pulled the trigger.
>>713793644
Then why don't you go and do it again, but this time, pull the trigger?
>>713793466
>virtue signaling this hard
>I don't like drugs but I use drugs because I don't like drugs or what they do to other people
wut
>>713793693
Because then I wouldn't be able to help everyone.
>>713793582
and I guess that's where we disagree
I see being able to change one's own psyche as a useful tool and quintessential part of being human, rather than a moral failing
>>713793718
No, I don't like drugs or drugs users, period. I use it as a tool to destroy myself.
>>713793723
You have to help yourself before you can help others. As cliche as it sounds, it's true. Can't be a sad sack of shit and help someone, you actually have to have been helped yourself.
>>713793829
why are you here begging for attention honestly
>>713793829
Alcohol is a drug so I highly doubt you dont talk to people who drink beer and shit.
>>713792941
No, reality sucks. But often how you deal with reality (including changes in perception) can affect how much you hate it, which CAN change reality in a psychological sense.
It's a little... philosophical or meta or whatever you want to call it, but there's more than one use for the word "reality". In this case I don't mean the real world/universe and exact factual "what something is, no matter who you are". Drugs or perspective can't change that, it is what it is...
But there's also another reality, the reality/truth of the self, and that can be changed by perspective. What pisses you off, how much you enjoy something, what variables you put into your own logic algorithms to make decisions and how much you value each one, that kind of thing. The exact same "real reality" situation can be experienced in two totally different ways, even at the same time by the same person, causing different realities within the self. "This is horseshit" and "Meh, I'm okay with this" and "This could actually be a good thing, in a way" can all be applied to the exact same scenario all at once. The human mind is a wonky thing
>>713793858
I know. And when I try to help everyone I just fuck up and make everything worse no matter how well I feel in that moment. So why fucking bother with anything? Nothing matters anyway. I can't do the only thing I want in life, so I try to destroy myself in a way that doesn't hurt me physically.
>>713793975
Bullshit I don't.
>>713793582
Scientifically false.
>>713794039
Well then stop trying to helping others until you're ready. And you actually feel well?
I'm done with this argument. Drugs are bad and should never be taken, end of discussion. Now I'm going to bed.
>>713794039
Have fun getting attention and feeling high and mighty then. You must be fun at parties.
LSD is pretty fun in small doses.
>>713794165
I guess I respond to that last when since I like my response. I don't go to parties because there are drugs there, and idiots. I hate both.
>>713794150
goodnight then
sleep well
>>713794255
Hard to tell if you are trolling or not.
>>713793644
>loaded shotgun
Man, lemme borrow dat bitch. If I had something as easy and lethal and that laying around, I might not be too lazy to fix my issues
>>713794323
I'm not. Now I'm out for real.
