What exactly is it about being a Millennial that makes life so much harder than other generations? I'm not convinced we have it any worse than other people did at our age.
Give specific examples from your life.
>>713766183
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA8DdkM2Wqo
Who said we have it worse? Fuck off loser with your failed attempt at a decent thread
>>713766183
Nothing except thinking that the luxuries we afford ourselves everyday are actual necessities.
Pussies. At least I have a drinking problem.
not sure anyone says they have it worse
but teenagers have ALWAYS said this
>>713766796
>Who said we have it worse?
Millennials
Millennials objectively have it better in almost every measurable metric than any other generation at any point in the entire history of the world.
The fact that millennials are all depressed sacks of shit is a combination of how the human mind operates (i would argue that it needs a certain combination of strife/comfort and challenge/reward that isn't being met correctly anymore causing people to create their own problems), as well as systematic brainwashing from consumption culture and social media culture.
The average millennials hand grip is 30% weaker than the generation that raised them. I think this statistic is simple but expressive.
>>713766796
There are numerous reports and surveys that show Millennials work harder, longer hours and even more jobs than previous generations, yet it is now far more difficult to afford a house. It's also been proven that although serious mental illnesses are not becoming more common, more people are diagnosed with depression and suicide rates have rocketed 60% in the past four decades.
>>713767298
Right all millennials congregated to all agree that we have it harder than any generation before us.
>>713766183
Cost of housing rose and cost of education skyrocketed. Debt stops you from making big purchases and is a huge hindrance. Cost of living in general has gone up.
It's not fucking rocket science, life for millenials is harder than previous generations.
>>713766796
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>>713767308
Please educate yourselves. There is indisputable evidence to the contrary. Just because you haven't read the data and don't believe it yourself because you feel like Millennials are limp-wristed faggots doesn't mean you're correct.
Here is but one statistical encapsulation of the cons of being a Millennial.
http://time.com/3618322/census-millennials-poverty-unemployment/
>>713766183
I ain't millennial, but you guys got it tough in my opinion
>>713766183
Depends entirely on context. We have better tech and better connectivity but get worse return on labor our incomes are shit too and its only gonna get worse..
It's a pretty weird time to be alive.
>>713767395
A massive number of them. If you deny that, you have your head in the sand.
>>713767328
The fact that people think this is debatable and not verifiable fact is just further proof to me that people are dumb as fuck and easily manipulated. There are literally people in this thread who don't believe that millenials have to pay more for housing, have more debt forced upon them and that wages have stagnated while cost of living has rose.
>>713767308
I agree.
>>713767698
THIS IS GOLD
>>713767698
non-millenials won't actually rebut this, they'll just yell 'triggered' and 'weak faggot' while sticking their fingers in their ears. Don't bother. Older generations are fucking worthless.
>>713767308
>manual labor has been largely outsourced while tech and computer related jobs have taken over
>he thinks grip strength is some telling metaphor of a generation's competence without considering that very obvious factor
>>713767698
Second from the left on the second row conflicts with the one to its right.
>>713766183
Other than the safe space crap and the too much liberal I'm offended bullshit, we do have it worse than our parents.
Check what minimum wage used to be against what rent used to cost, against what university costs, against the cost of food, which is enough, but sure if you want, luxuries too. That includes your phone and internet which are luxuries, but you can't operate quite the same without it since a lot more job applications are online, and some jobs require cell phones these days. (Mine does).
You'll find our expense of living is hugely higher compared to what our wages are vs. what it was like in the 70s.
For example, my father and I had a discussion about it a few months back and he asked my rent vs wage (I make over double minimum in Canada).
Some of a weeks pay paid his rent at minimum wage. Takes me 2 weeks for me to save it after all my other costs and that's if I spend nothing on myself.
On the one hand, it's liveable, of course. I'm starving. But consider that. I don't live lavishly and I really need to control my finances carefully and save all month to pay all my expenses and I make twice minimum wage.
In the 70s, a weeks pay took care of everything. See the problem?
Also housing prices are way out of control. I can go for hours about this.
>>713768123
So shut up and go buy a 3500sq ft home for $22,000 then
>>713766183
Well I'm 33, but when my father got out of the air force in the early 1980's, he bought a 2 story house at the age of 22 with a job as a postal carrier and paid it off in 4 years. He retired at the age of 48 with benefits and still lives lower middle-class and when he's 65 he'll get his military pension as well.
I work 60 hours a week at the best job I could get, making wood pallets, I make 8.15 an hour for up to 40 hours a week and then no OT. I will never own a home and can not afford to live independently, having to put up with a bitch of a woman just to be able to afford an apartment and a shitty old pontiac grand am.
>>713768120
Not him but it's more of a comparison between the previous generation's willingness to take on labour intensive work and this generation's eschewing of working with their hands. No doubt that much of that type of work has left but what remains is not even on the radar of most hipster millennials. It isn't even considered as its seen as beneath them. Older generations used to take what work they could, today's stalwartly refuses to do anything that could be uncomfortable.
>>713768578
>>713768399
/thread
>>713768578
>Perfect. Exactly as planned.
>>713766183
Shittiest thing about being a millennial
>be me 13
>sonic the hedgehog makes my penis hard
>make a YouTube about it
>grow up, try to delete
>nope, it's on archive.org
>oh god
>the Internet is forever
>you are now 28 and known as Brian "Sonic-Penis" Tanner
>>713768399
>I'm starving
Sorry, I'm *not* starving. Very different point and mood.
>>713768803
>Tanner
Dumb Jew.
>>713768578
>>713768578
What did you study, if anything?
>>713766183
having to live off the little money my parents give me while I stay at their place looking for employment after graduation. It's been a year now , life is rough.
>>713768399
Where do you live, Canadabro?
I have no idea what minimum wage has become.
>>713766183
my iPhone won't fit in my skinny jeans
>>713769013
Hamilton, On. now. But ive lived too many places. Grew up in Brampton, lived in Alberta two years.
What about you?
>>713768578
If you were willing to commute to work, rural houses back then were cheap as fuck. My mom still lives in a beautiful 2,500 or so SQ house on 12 acres of land that my dad bought in 1984 for $38,000.
Consider a lot of people with decent jobs make between 20.000 and 35,000 in just a single year.
>>713768889
Whoreticulture.
>make 50k
>have simple car, paid off
>do not live lavishly
>rent, food, and other basic needs are so expensive that I have to live like a shut in to afford to put away 10% per cheque
>>713769121
>>713769013
Also it's like 11.50 or something..
>>713769121
The Hammer? The armpit of the golden horseshoe
>>713769121
Toronto here. Spent plenty of time in Hamilton during school. How much is double minimum wage? I heard it's cheaper to live in Hamilton than TO
>>713768889
What did he study? He said his father was a POSTAL CARRIER. A fucking mailman. Speaking of higher education, what did any of the factory workers or industrial workers that made up the American middle class have?
Nothing. They walked in. Could stand up straight and follow simple instructions. Ten years later they have a two story home with a pool in the backyard and two cars in the garage.
>>713769222
It's cheaper to live in Paris than TO
>>713769181
Yep. My gf and I joined the exodus from toronto. We got a whole house for the same rent as a 1 bedroom apt. In Toronto. With our two dogs we thought it was better.
We learned poor white people really do have a serious boner for fireworks. I thought that shit was just in TV.
>>713768803
Yes the world fucked kids up mentally ...but making a yt vid about it? Hope you're a troll..
>>713769289
And then 20-30 years later they voted for Trump.
/end
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>>713769163
Then we're in the same boat. We should split a place and spend the evenings starting at the crazy homeless people roaming the streets.
>>713769222
I make 23.50 as a second year carpenter's apprentice. Full wage is 38 something. I'm two years away from that.
I work in Toronto. Ive been at st. Michael's hospital a few weeks now. Hopefully I'm done soon im sick of the crackheads.
When you really think of it, greedy Jews have really fucked the entire world over in the course of one generation.
>>713769289
I'm completely agreed with you, my friend. Just curious as to whether or not he wasted a giant amount of money studying something useless. A lot of us make very poor decisions which doesn't help at all considering this shitty situation.
>>713766183
I wouldn't say we have it harder than depression era folks or WW2 folks by a long shot, but we have it much MUCH worse than baby boomers or genxers by quite a lot.
There is no future or opportunity left in this country.
Student debt cripples you for life.
Jobs still pay what they did in early 2000s, yet expenses have doubles
Record numbers of adults living with their parents and not getting married because they can't afford it.
>>713767698
That picture should be updated to end with "And then voted for Donald Trump. The end."
>>713769616
>>713769340
Yeah man but we have the gay parade
>>713769121
I work in hamilton, if your in the right racket theres money to be made
>>713769676
To be honest, I would say the "jews" did it, but you'd have to exclude 99.99% of jewish people and only count the jews at the very top.
>>713768578
>having to put up with a bitch of a woman
maybe you should be gay, that way you can fuck your buddy instead
>>713769350
>exodus from toronto
If I had half a fucking brain I would do the same. Move to Montreal, relearn French, and live like a fucking king.
>>713769616
You're onto something but I can't say i agree with all of it.
Depression people were seriously hopeless, minimum wage for waiters got lowered below minimum wage in that era because restaurants were all actually too poor to pay, so they relied on tips. A tradition that was only necessary then and not even now.
I also can't say the WWII area was all that amazing either. What with the mass death of men and the huge push for shitty factory jobs for the war effort.
Also both times were pre vaccine. You had to have like 9 kids because most of them would die.
But yeah it sucks now compared to our parents
>>713769778
That 1% couldn't do it without their faithful Jew gatekeepers just underneath them.
>>713769522
>>713769676
How did they mastermind this one?
Ask your grandpa how his SAT scores were. Oh wait that's right he probably didn't fucking take them.
>>713769616
>wouldn't say we have it harder than depression era folks or WW2 folks by a long shot
Glad to hear this. I know we have it tough but Jesus do my contemporaries like to cry as though this is the hardest time in history to live.
>>713769928
>>713766183
i'm 27 idk if i count as being a millenial but....
being alive in this day and age is legit af
>there are people fighting to get my white cis male scum privelage taken away, but they can't
>was literally a drug addict fuck up my whole life
>rather than become a literal hobo, tax money helped me get clean and fix my life
>currently getting paid to go to school as an oldfag fuckup
life is fucking dank
>>713769736
Where about?
I'm a union carpenter, my wage is fine. I also just started my own pest control business. I threw up a Kijiji add to see what customer prospects are like.
I had to take it down because I got flooded and I'm still waiting on the right licensing for my equipment, so I couldn't help anyone though I'm insured and licensed to operate already. And yes I'm already trained and experienced in it.
I'm not so worried about money right now.
>>713769987
did you really expect anything different? of course they'd think that if they haven't been in the shoes of someone who lived during WW2 or depression
>>713769987
>but Jesus do my contemporaries like to cry as though this is the hardest time in history to live.
It's only getting worse and their is strong indication now that it is only going to get much worse.
>>713769899
Yeah, it really sucks compared to any time 50s and onward. Everything kind of went downhill since 9/11.
>>713769987
This is one of the worst times in american history by far. The future doesn't look too good considering the internet was just sold basically.
These are the last days of free internet, so remember it when you're 50 or so.
Aside from the internet and mountains of cheap cancer-inducing food, what do we really have above most other generations? Think about it.
You are in debt for life for going to the doctor.
In debt for life for going to school.
You can't really start a business without luck or lots of money.
Social mobility is just as hard now as it was a hundred years ago.
Governmen and police are turning into a dictatorship, the very representation of what the red scare in the 50s was all about. We are sliding towards communism and worldwide poverty for all but the very few.
We've gone backwards not forwards.
>>713770184
>WW2
>depression
>can still buy a house for 20grand that'll appreciate 500%
Yeah, fuck off.
>>713770149
Are you in the ubc? Im a union millwight lol mosty work in dofasco got some work in us steel this week tho
>>713770149
Oh speaking of, I forgot.
Hey guise, I know I was here talking about how much harder it is to have a wage and make ends meet now.. but hit the library and get some entrepreneur books.
It's actually easy as hell to start your own business and super profitable if you do it right. Millions of opportunities.
I'll be making approx. $125/hr. I can't rely on a steady flow of customers obviously, but prospects are already very good.
Get some books, they're full of super easy suggestions.
>>713769423
You'd better be trolling.
>>713770270
I hate this period of time. There's nothing to look forward to, nobody believes in the country anymore, and everything is expensive. Nobody even stands for the pledge at my school.
>>713770310
>considering the internet was just sold basically.
>These are the last days of free internet, so remember it when you're 50 or so.
I've been on a month long bender and have not heard of this. What the fuck are you/is he talking about? Did SOPA pass or something?
>>713770313
No, you're thinking post depression or post ww2.
Actual ww2 generation is the ones born around 1920-1930. You're thinking of baby boomers born after 1940.
>>713770494
UN will gradually filter internet access to the public in the future.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/us-to-relinquish-remaining-control-over-the-internet/2014/03/14/0c7472d0-abb5-11e3-adbc-888c8010c799_story.html?utm_term=.baa1414afde4
http://www.wsj.com/articles/an-internet-giveaway-to-the-u-n-1472421165
http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/news/2016/09/29/icann-iana-internet-address-book-autonomous-department-of-commerce-ip-address-transition-internet-corporation-for-assigned-names-and-numbers/91281960/
>>713770443
I am in UBC, yeah!
I'm a scaffolder, I worked at dofasco in may when they did the big lift, and also back in september of last year. Safway.
I'm Toronto union, but I'd switch to Hamilton if dofasco is hiring scaffolders. Do you know anything?
Your myopic, lazy, socially inept and incapable parents that decided to have a kid to give them a purpose in life, have unfortunately passed on their uselessness onto to you. By rewarding your failures, they have taught you how to embrace being a victim and to take the path of least resistance, all the while complaining about how you have it harder than previous generations.
By choosing to not discipline or to teach the concept of being responsible for your actions, you have become entitled and cry when things are not exactly to your specification.
Sure, there are a few mills that work hard and have made something of themselves, but those ones have never had the option of moving back home when things get hard.
You fail because your parents failed you.
This is what happens when people decide to be on equal terms with their children; not raising a child but rather, a peer.
But have this trophy for attempting to ask a difficult question.
Gen X and Boomers grew up in a fantasy land. The perfect time and place, it was literally pure luck.
We saw a huge boom in manufacturing at a time when we didn't have to worry about foreign competition. So we were able to sell massive amounts of goods, most of which were inferior to others but it didn't matter because they had little access to our big market, and unions became powerful. They demanded more and more and our parents flourished.
Eventually, people learned that foreigners made things better than we did and for less cost. Prices had to come down and so did wages but unions fought it tooth and nail, so companies left. They were welcomed with open arms by foreign countries who did not think a janitor working for a car company should start at $60,000 a year nor should an illiterate labourer make over $100,000 with overtime.
Instead of accepting the fact that the gravy train had come to a stop, they killed the manufacturing sector and drove the jobs out.
Now we just limp on, struggling to get those good times back and making them the norm again instead of accepting the undeniable fact that it was a bonus, a free ride for a few decades that never should have existed to begin with. Although those generations didn't want to accept that, so they just elected people who promised them more and more and have bankrupted us in an attempt to stay in power by giving it all away to the entitled.
Good times.
>>713769987
You cant compare the quality of life from one time to another just solely on numbers of jobs and amounts of money.
Technology and resources play an incredibly critical part in quality of life, regardless of those other things.
>>713770658
Don't forget giant cars, virtually free gas, virtually free electricity, huge ass cars, cheap ass houses, no brain jobs that paid gorillions, cheap food, parts of the earth still intact for exploring......
How the fuck does electricity be almost free when it's first invented, but now costs almost as much as gas what the fuck kind of JEWRY is this?
>>713770460
Sad thing is, a lot of us need two jobs just to make ends meet. Starting a business is a side to your normal job.
>>713770460
Except you have to compete with globalization and in my prime example indian, who dump the per hour prices down to 3$. You have to be outstanding to get hired for more than 25$
And IT is only the prime example. Every day more and more jobs are outsourced or given to machines.
There are even studies, that found out, that in 20 years only 35-40% of the western world will have jobs.
>>713768399
>Also housing prices are way out of control. I can go for hours about this.
Not a millenial, but young enough to have the same problems.
And housing is, by far, the biggest problem. Bullshittery in the housing sector has completely fucked the prospect of anyone making typical wage of ever affording a house. It could easily take a full TEN YEARS worth of pay to buy a mediocre 2/3-bedroom house where I live.
Ten. Fucking. Years. That's insane. You could literally send me out into the woods with nothing but a manual chain saw, a couple buckets of nails, and some basic hand tools, and I could build a comparable house, minus furnishings and fancy trimmings (which are a trivial expense compared to the rest of a typical home) in a fraction of that time.
The only thing I can figure is that people have come to value the convenience of location way too much. There are plenty of places where you can still buy an affordable house; they just tend to be what most people would describe as "in the middle of nowhere", despite not actually being remote (protip: if you have connection to municipal water, sewage, and electric, it's NOT "remote"). So they're willing to spend an unreasonable portion of their lives making money for someone else, and the cultural mentality that this is what you should be doing just perpetuates itself.
Personally, the only thing (and I do mean literally the ONLY thing) that keeps me from just saving up cash for a parcel of land in a nice, semi-remote location, is access to city water. I can deal with my own power generation (and, in fact, enjoy doing so) and wouldn't have much issue dealing with a septic system, but securing clean, running water 365 days/year is not something I want to fuck with.
>>713770658
this is so scarily accurate it makes me angry
>>713766183
The difficulty in the lives of people born since 1980 isn't how hard the minimum line is. Hell, everyone except the babyboomers had a much lower point to live in. Our difficulty lies in the lack of ability to raise your status.
We live in a time of unprecedented rate of post secondary education and trade apprenticeship becoming useless because the business chosen folds or moves outside the country. Many people with post secondary education diplomas have trouble finding a job that pays well enough to live let alone one that can be called a career to say absolutely nothing about getting a career in the field they chose. Trades are almost as risky because of unionization that keeps people at entry level due in no part to skill or experience but to time with that specific local and to the fact that they only take on when another member leaves.
Yes there is a great safety net in north america that will keep you from starving in the street due to bad luck but it is nearly impossible to get anywhere with traditional hard work. Your best bet is developing interpersonal skills and networking rather than any kind of training.
That is the big problem this generation has to face in the work force.
>>713770658
I would lick your butt hole.
>>713770609
u mean when they lifted the top off the blast furnace?
i was working at the #4 galv line across the bay when that was happening lol, had a great view of that job. i really dont know anything, i do know they have been trying to hire millwrights from my local lately. i know one quit and came back to the local, couldnt handle management or something lol
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>>713770609
is there not much work in toronto? i heard toronto millwright hall was totally empty
>>713770769
I think it's fair to say that our advances in technology have not made up for the massive reduction in future prospects.
>>713771177
Yeah too much bullshit hoops and hazing tog et tradesperson jobs anymore. They think this is 1960 and life is good and that everyones got plenty of time and energy to fucking waste with fraternity initiation bullshit, when niggers now days just want to focus on doing work.
24 here, so I guess millenial? I own a house (bought at 22) have worked a full time job for 7 years (been an auto. mechanic since I graduated), worked my ass off and own 2 vehicles, summer sports car and a high end truck (truck almost paid off). I live in Canada and have a fiance too, who also is the same age. No co-signer on our mortgage, we worked and everything we have in our lives is because we worked our asses off.
Problem is, the older generation kept telling kids "get an education, you'll make 6 figures!!!" I have a journeyman certificate and she has a good job that requires a degree, but cause she worked hard at a term job, they hired her full time and she makes almost as much as me, we grossed $109k last year combined. Student loans, cost of schooling and the fact banks make it impossible to get a mortgage (a smart investment) but make it stupid easy to get a loan for a brand new car (terrible investment) is a huge problem...
I live in the same home I've lived my entire life, since the late 1980's. Yes, still living with parents.
I don't pay much attention to anything. I'm a movement disordered freak on SSI. But I have noticed one thing.
Most people in this area are my parents age, and most of them have been living here as long or longer than us.
This area used to be really nice. Now the roads are fucked, everyone is paranoid and leaving pit bulls chained up in their yards 24/7, shooting guns in their backyards and the entire area reeks of harmful wood smoke all winter because nobody can or wants to pay the astronomic cost of other heat fuels.
So, even someone with as much brain damage as me can tell shit has gotten a lot worse.
>>713770135
So you're the worthless fucking nigger taking all our money. People like you should be left to rot, instead people like me pay for everything for you.
>>713771405
Trump will change things. You're right though, everything is noticeably worse under Obama.
>>713771396
>I live in a remote shithole where property is fucking dirt cheap and got a boom job I was able to hold onto and find a girl at a very young age with financial stability to collaborate with, you all are lazy and stupid and have no excuses
>>713771577
No, this all began with GWB. Everything was it's best under Bill Clinton.
>>713771396
Where in Canada? 109k per year will not get a home in any of the major cities.
>>713771003
Don't forget the fact that unions are HIGHLY nepotist, so you can only get a good job and good training if you're related to another union member. Like the guilds of old. Your father must be a union member to become one.
>>713771577
>>713771668
I know what the fuck!?!?! How can anyone not know that dubya's administration is what lead us into the recession in the first place?!?
Jesus Christ! Even a downy fucking knows that!
>>713771710
Yeah, it's all a bunch of masonic cow shit
>>713771336
its more than worth it, without my union id be making at minimum 10$ less per hour than i am. no pension, no benefets, no future
>>713770769
Look dude, I don't give a shit about facebook, twitter, even /b/.
I'd rather own my own house, make 80k+ a year for a simple job, and own 2-3 cars with gas being dirt cheap than I would ever sit in my mom's basement shitposting on 4chan because there's no fucking work out there.
Fuck off. Technology is fucking worthless.
>>713771770
>>713771668
Jesus you liberal twats can you get off the clintons' cock for a second
>>713769149
Do you live in one of those trendy and expensive LOL cities?
>>713771668
Nah it was when Obama let all illegals and niggers have free reign on our cities. That's why everyone in your neighborhood lives in fear.
>>713771794
I hate unions. They rob you and do nothing for you but pump you ass full of rainbows.
t; not a mason
>>713769289
Fucking this. I went to tech school for computer networking twice. Have comptia, Microsoft and NetWare certs back in 2000.
Starting salary at the time for network admin was 10$ approx.
I decided to work with my hands in a totally unrelated field and now make 35$/hr with overtime and benefits. Taxes tear me up, I have a car note, mortgage, stay at home wife, and child on just my income. I feel fortunate but none of these things came easy.
>>713771710
not true, i had no connections to anyone before i joined my union
>>713771048
Yeah. That was the job. I was right underneath it a deck below watching through the cracks as they pulled that bitch out. Exhilarating.
No problem man. I've got contacts I should probably call. I know they keep an auxillary staff of scaffolders. If I could get in it would be gravy.
>>713771396
Lucky you, I would have done the same thing if I had the same opportunity.
I've worked about 25x harder than you and have about 1/100 the amount to show for it.
At least people die eventually. Can you imagine how shit it would be if we lived forever? Thank god it ends one day.
>>713771905
Yes, obviously.
>>713771710
its that kind of mentality that keeps the worker down
>>713771969
I dont wanna have to submit to clubs to gain basic advantages in my life. It's why I'm not a mason.
>>713771770
>People who already have shit and wont be around long enough to suffer the most severe consequences of another republican presidency: voted for Trump.
People who actually have a future to invest in this country...
>>713771678
False. I don't know what you're smoking but 109K/year is definitely enough for a house here in Saskatoon.
>>713771577
A man with a gun to his (and his family's) head will probably not stick it to the system, lest he be assassinated kennedy-style.
>>713772030
Explained, it is.
>>713772082
>major city
>Saskatoon
Alight man.
>>713771958
Lucky you, probably the right joice. It job prices are dropping like hell at the moment
>>713771003
Pair this with a housing market that is completely over inflated charging you half a million dollars for what is 200k or less in a vacuum, owning a house on national average salary is impossible without debilitating loans which you may already have if you chose the post secondary degree route.
>>713771969
Lucky as fuck, not sure how you got in dude.
You better hold onto that membership your whole life if you want your son to have any chance at a life whatsoever.
>>713772064
>people aged 25-100 don't have any future, just fuck them all who cares what they think
>>713772064
what this image shows is that younger people are more gullible
>>713772082
>saskatoon
They practically have to pay people to stay.
>>713771602
$317k is what our house cost us, 80s build 950sqft 3 bed, 2 bath bungalow with an oversized 3 car garage, not exacty cheap but compared to the overinflated Toronto/Vancouver markets it is. Not my fault I have ALWAYS loved cars, thus chose a career with it. My fiance was in university, she never had "financial stability" when we first started dating. She got in with the Coop work study thing, and got a job from there. Too many kids take useless classes and have no real career goal (I've lost count of how many people I went to school with went to Kineseology , business admin degrees and work at grocery stores now). It's called planning, I was looking at career paths in Grade 10, Don't bitch at people who were planning a future while others were drinking/partying (I did do that as well).
>>713772064
We have a saying in my country: If you weren't left when you where young, you don't have a heart. If you aren't right when you are grown, you don't have a brain.
>>713766183
Nothing. They are all just retarded entitled little shits. They whine about not having money but every single one has internet, cable, and a smart phone. Every generation gets slightly dumber. We need another world war
>>713772064
There was a lot of voter fraud going on for Hillary, so I wouldn't trust yet another misleading pro-hillary bullshit map or poll.
Dead people shouldn't vote.
>>713772064
>have a future
>vote for candidate who'd risk ww3 for shits and giggles
I think the reason it's more difficult for millennial's is that almost every job that pays worth a shit requires a bachelor's degree or better. Most of those jobs are technology based and every year technology becomes more and more advanced.
In ye old days "technology" just required on the job training or apprenticeship. I mean, I've looked at dumb jobs on craigslist and hiring people put shit like "5 years+ this or that and 3 languages a must!" so it's pretty hard today to get a job that pays over $20 without schooling.
>>713772122
Yeah. Trouble is most jobs aren't mobile or I'd move in a heartbeat.
>>713771958
Going into nursing next year and hoping for the same hourly wage.
Also going to Canada, I hope they pay well up there.
Anything for a decent future but I'm at the end of my rope.
having everything what you wish for at your fingertips make you a desireless pathetic piece of human meat. everything is self evident in your life and you forget to appreciate the simple thing in life. to sum it up you sre not happy you feel empty because you dont own the newest materialistic piece of capitalistic junk...
>>713771405
>>713771577
>>713771668
>>713771925
I live near the U.P. of Michigan. I haven't seen a black person in years.
>>713771974
very cool haha, right on brother, hopefully there will be a load of work at the stelco plants too in the near future
>>713770945
Firstly in my job I offer a service. No Indians are flying out here daily to tkse my customers.
There are plenty if things you can do other than what you're thinking of, manufacturing, and maybe call centers.
Second, yes, unemployment will take.off with automation, AI and Jon exporting. that's why most western countries are working out the logistics of minimum basic income. Our countries second trial project launches in the new year.
It's well understood that the economy is changing and an entire new system is needed for when there are no left for anyone.
Its strange, its counter intuitive, but past trials in Canada and abroad have been extremely successful.
And we better hope they are because it's sink or swim.
>>713772283
Why's that? Do they need nurses by any chance?
I'm going to the most remote location I can find in Canada. Hopefully will make immigration easier.
>>713772163
Whatever, it's a real city, not major, but people can buy a shitty house here making 50K/year. 109K is overkill.
>>713772064
When I was that age I didn't understand how the economy works or what was most important for my country. All that shows is their naivety and being sheltered from real life and living.
>>713772064
I really hate this insane argument that surfaced around Brexit. "The young people who are going to live longer didn't want it and the future is theirs."
As though the young are the only ones who matter, whose votes have any meaning. It's so incredibly narcissistic.
>>713771925
I hate you and myself for replying to such ignorant bait
>>713772483
Which minority group makes your city live in fear then?
>>713772283
They do. I get 4K back on my 2016 taxes for staying in Saskatchewan. It's actually nice here until winter kicks in. And if I had a garage it wouldn't be half as bad.
>>713772312
Fucking shithead, some of us were planning for the future since we were 15, did our best to go to college, and now all we have is endless debt and a future living in mom's basement.
You got to drink and party AND you got the best out of life. Most hardworking people work their asses off, study, and at best end up on unemployment. Sometimes homeless.
Your LUCK doesn't mean you worked harder. And don't mistake it for anything other than luck. That's all it is.
>>713771999
Worked harder than me? Ya because my parents raised 4 kids on $60k together. I was a paperboy when I was 9 years old, got my first par time burger joint job at 14. Grade 6 student with a $1300 laptop (shit was expensive in the early 00s), PS2 and TV in my bedroom that I bought with MY money. I have worked hard my entire life.
As for where I live, I do live in Saskatchewan (regina to be specific). It isn't overly expensive to live here, again, people in vancouver/'toronto are seriously fucked, A house like ours goes for $600k+ in vancouver...
>>713772542
Well I said "major city" and you said that's false because you live in the bristling metropolis that is Saskatoon. I'm happy for your success, but it isn't a roadmap to success for people living in the major cities which is the majority of the population. Over here, you'd be one more struggling couple.
>>713772386
You say that like it's a bad thing. We are in desperate need of another world war
>>713766183
you guys are better off than people born in the great depression but not a whole lot more IMO. You've all got the problem of lots of you with education for fewer jobs and for that I feel for you. But you are also kind of faggots too. You are always buried in your cell phones and are way to liberal. I say put the phone down pull your two boyfriends dicks out of your ass and read a book or go for a walk or have face to face conversation with someone.
>>713772680
What makes you think that people can only be afraid of people that are of difference races or religions than them?
They're afraid of each other. Or didn't you know, white Europeans waged war against each other for thousands of years?
>>713772228
i know i am well off in my current situation, but i even worry about my own future what with artificial intelligence, i believe even the skillled trades could be at risk. let alone my childrens generation
>>713767328
Shh this is /b/ facts aren't liked around these parts
I blame the new cuck Rock trend playing on every radio station. The music is shit
whites are going extinct
>>713771770
Allowing banks to lend to those who were not properly qualified in order to increase the number of people who owned homes happened under the Clinton administration.
>>713772717
No I guess being bullied every fucking day in middle school means I got the best out of life or the fact my fiance's dad died when she was 8. I hope everything works out for you but believe me, thinking of offing yourself at 13 to come where I am at now, it's luck and karma I hope that goes your way too.
>>713772228
and i basically had to write an aptitude test and get through an interview, unions arent the same as they used to be. lots of guys i know got in the same way i did
>>713772815
I'm not that guy. Places with higher costs of living pay more. My company has a Saskatoon office and an office in a "major city" as you'd put it. If you transfer between the offices your wage changes accordingly.
>>713772533
To be honest, I envy you a bit. You had the foresight to found a local service business. Those jobs will almost always be there and needed.
I honestly root for basic income, but we then again have the baby boomer, who think, it is a complete waste of money. However, we will see, how the future will develop and even a global economy crysis can't be that bad.
>>713772860
I picture a crabby old man saying this and it's hilarious. And true.
>>713770990
It's not that hard, just drill a well and install a pump & pressurized tank. If the water in the area is hard, just distill/filter it for cooking and drinking.
Gen X here.
>dropped everything moved to town 200 miles away
>took job with insurance co.
>broke away and did contract work
> Mind you 2 small kids at the time
>insurance gig construction during the day
>bartender 3 nights a week till 3am
>keep plowing ahead
> now 4 kids and total contract worker
>shits turned out good
>150,000 to 200,000 per year
>worked my ass off for this
>my own boss never miss kids shit
>2 months a year I have to work 12-15 hrs a day
>7 days a week
> the rest of the year it's not too bad
>>713767816
>Debt forced upon them
Well... That parts a choice...
It just felt forced because everyone said go to university or die poor and alone in a field.
I fell for it. Now I'm the most educated guy on the construction site. On the one hand I make a lot of money. On the other, I could have done this shit with grade 10 math and I'm happy as a clam
>>713772384
The election may be over, but you'll always be retarded
>>713772892
Ok confirmed for retarded bait. go back to your delusional reality and protesting your delusional ideals.
>>713772625
You were right mang.
>>713772892
this
I live in a white suburban neighborhood and had to get a locking gas cap because some asshole kept ciphering my tank. He later got busted ciphering someone else's and was a middle aged white man.
>>713772846
Idiot
>>713766183
90's kid here. I hate that 90's kids now have been lumped into the "millennial" category even though we're nothing like those shitcunts.
>>713772717
THIS
>>713773038
>Places with higher costs of living pay more.
Absolutely false, unfortunately. Pay varies very little for the same job in different areas. Costs of living are not built into most companies, especially Canada's biggest employers.
>>713767723
>It's a pretty weird time to be alive.
>productivity is up.
>wages are down.
>buying power of the dollar is down.
>cost of living is up.
>average debt is up.
But hey, i've got an iPhone, so shit must be cool. Right?
Right...?
>>713772784
My friend works in Regina. I considered applying to the same company but I didn't want to leave Saskatoon. I make like $64K/year. His salary is posted online and it was 80-something last year. Kind of regret staying even though all my close friends live here.
>>713773163
Uh-huh, sure. You know, I never saw or signed anything when my parents took out education loans under my name? Yet I'm still five figures in the red for a useless slip of paper.
>>713772784
Holy shit, you sound like a conceited little shit.
My mom raised 5 kids on 10k a year income. That's right 10k. I ate out of the garbage in the middle of the ghetto surrounded by violent niggers and rap music.
60k = rich.
fuck off.
>I was a paperboy when I was 9 years old, got my first par time burger joint job at 14.
I've been doing backbreaking construction for the past 6 years and still can't make ends meet. Currently suffering from a permanent injury which was never compensated. Started my own business in college which is the only reason I am able to survive at all off the streets or live at my mom's house like most 20 year olds. The vast majority of people my age live with their parents.
>Grade 6 student with a $1300 laptop (shit was expensive in the early 00s), PS2 and TV in my bedroom that I bought with MY money. I have worked hard my entire life.
I had to pirate my college textbook from piratebay and didn't even have a laptop. I used an old desktop I got from my job they were going to throw out. Have been dumpster diving for food recently, which is surprisingly going very good. I have hundreds of dollars of food for free.
Trust me, I worked well over 25x harder than you.
When you were a paperboy, did you ever bicycle for 2 hours in a thunderstorm or during a blizzard? I did both, then I still had to do a 10 hour shift of backbreaking labor. Then bicycle 2 hours back home. Like those old guys who always bitch about how they had to walk miles to do their jobs. I did that shit for real.
So fuck off snowflake, and stop crediting yourself for things your parents already did for you before you were born.
>>713772538
undesireable place to live. Very little industry aside from agriculture so there is a low population which means less opportunity for supporting industry employment and less opportunity for advancement.
>>713773234
>>713772892
samefag with anecdotal evidence that goes against the real stats.
>>713773292
It's been that way for every software dev job I've seen or heard about.
>>713773258
I'm with you. Early 90s kid but I'm the youngest in my family, all my 3 other siblings were early-mid 80s kids. Too many kids with hurt feelings. Instead of banking on a degree in an uncertain area, look into possible careers in need and go with that.
>>713772906
Don't worry too much as long as you're not a big spender. Use the money you get from your job and buy some cheap property, lots etc. Rent them out and that's how you'll have money. That's what I would do.
>>713773034
Try being the only white kid in a school full of niggers in the ghetto.
I was suicidal since like 5 years old. That's life in the ghetto.
Fuck this country, if you had a "bad" life then I am definitely going to Canada.
>>713767698
The sad part is the last one is the most realistic and horrifying one. Most of our generation will probably never know retirement.
>mfw they keep increasing retirement age
>it's 70 in my country now
>mfw no-one employs anyone over the age of 40
>mfw when "job security" this day and age
>>713773449
Not samefag. You just don't want to accept the truth. I'm sure that if the shit hits the fan and all hell breaks loose in an abrupt civil war, you'll just go running to the nearest group of white people to see to join them.
I'd be laughing my ass off when you get shot, either then or when your white army gets killed by another white army.
>>713773164
Retard can't use google lol.
Thousand of reports of election fraud all over the country.
Are you living under a rock?
>>713773480
That's a rather small sample size.
>>713773442
That's not true. The weather just sucks and there are lots of natives who like to commit crimes. I knew a guy who was murdered by a native recently. Saskatchewan has very high crime rates for Canada.
>>713766183
>What exactly is it about being a Millennial that makes life so much harder than other generations?
the fact that they have had it so much easier than any other generation
this makes it so that when they are faced with something hard (ie anything that isn't given to them w/o any effort on their part) they have no clue what to do
>>713771939
yea okay you keep thinking that, im just gonna stay here in my house and keep living my totally independent life at age 21
>>713773754
That sounds like an undesirable place to live.
>>713773644
went from samefag to literally retarded. don't you have an american flag to burn to show how ignorant you are?
>>713773048
Yeah my parents are against it for sure because that whole.generation is against anything that's perceivably free.
But at the politically level this is being pushed by both our liberal and conservative parties. Everyone wins with it.
Also no foresight, pest control wasn't part of some entrepreneur plan. I just did it because it was the only job available, learned a lot, then years later put two and two together and realised I could totally do it myself.
I read a lot of books about having a business. You can literally do anything.
Some.woman made 60k us in her first year because she decided to stay home and throw up a Kijiji ad to get people to bring dogs to her house for her to groom
Another dude mass imported cheap burlap from China, cut it into squares and sold it to.garden stores.
It doesn't have to be fancy or interesting unique or original.
If people will shell out cash for it, it's a great idea
>>713773442
Are there any hospitals hiring nurses around there? Sounds like my kind of place. People will always needs healthcare.
>>713773710
Yeah, but I have no reason to believe my industry is the only one that would do this. Can you explain why software and only software would vary by cost of living?
>>713766183
The economy is fucked up. Wages pay less while necessities cost more.
>>713773381
Well I obviously hadn't thought of your unique and unthinkable situation.
Sorry your parents suck. Because holy shit.
>>713773878
I can tell you that it is not the case for Canada's largest employers, gov and banks. Yours is a small industry and you're only basing it on the jobs you personally have heard about. Small part of a small group is not a foundation for general statements.
>>713773381
Move to Canada, you will never have to pay it back as long as you don't come back to the USA.
That's what I;m doing.
>>713766183
Reminder to all these buzzword users that Millennial refers to anyone under the age of thirty.
I used to make 5.15 an hour at minimum wage and could get 2 double deckers, 2 taco supremes and a nacho supreme for around 5 bucks. Now I make 9 dollars an hour and when I made that same order last week for old times sake, it was over 10 dollars. I had to just drive off and stick to my EBT benefits.
Millennials (also known as Generation Y, Generation Me and Echo Boomers) are the demographic cohort following Generation X. There are no precise dates for when this cohort starts or ends; demographers and researchers typically use the early-1980s as starting birth years and ending birth years ranging from the mid-1990s to early-2000s.
>>713766183
The only bad thing about being a millennial is constantly hearing about how terrible we are.
>>713773834
Well it's not all that bad. Of everyone I know only two have ever been murdered. One guy I hardly knew was murdered as the gas station he worked at was robbed by a native, and another guy I knew better was murdered by a native with anger problems. My parent's home was broken into by a native, but honestly I think he was just so high he didn't know what he was doing. The worst part is that some natives act like since you're white you're the bad guy. Schools teach the same. Natives were amazing people who lived in harmony with nature until the white man came. Now natives just do drugs and rob people and blame whitey. Not all of them, one of my good friends growing up was native. He was a good guy, but even he had issues with the law (this guy can drink 35 beer easy, then gets real stupid).
this fucked up millennials everywhere
>>713774348
the thing that's fucking stupid about this definition of "beginning in the early '80s and ending in the 2000s" is that half of us had an internet-free childhood and the other half didn't. if you don't think that seriously affects your childhood you're fucking retarded. tech moves too fast now, generations need to be every 10 years.
>>713774348
>Thinking that those smart phone-weidling, social media spamming SJW "help me i'm triggered cuz Xhe didnt use the right pronouns" lazy generation that doesn't really work has anything to do with 80's and 90's kids.
>>713774509
>Of everyone I know only two have ever been murdered.
Dude that's a lot. Come on.
>>713773754
Ah, those fucking natives. I hear they're basically Canadian niggers.
If it was just the weather and population would be fine, but niggers ruin it every time. What a shame.
>>713774616
I live in Florida and I'm 28 and I've known 5 people who've been murdered.
>>713774558
This. My girlfriend is 4 years younger than me. I didn't have Facebook in highschool, she did.
The fucking difference between me and my friends and all people my age I've ever met and her and her friends. Holy shit.
>>713774616
It is, but I mean ot includes anyone who I ever knew at all. Still not a small number. The one guy I only talked to a handful of times and it happened like 6 years ago. The other guy I knew pretty well and it was just a couple months ago.
millennials thought that being emo was cool
>>713774756
yea Canadian natives are almost Abbo-tier
>>713774778
We're talking about Canada here. We can't hold a candle to your crime rates.
>>713773841
This always seemed kind of funny to me. We have more old people, so politicians, that support the needs of the older generation, get more often elected. Meanwhile the younger generation gets rather neglected, while we have to pay the needs of the old.
The only fear I have, are the lazy people, that don't want to work (and there are a lot of them within millenials). This could mean, people would stop taking the societal necessary low wage jobs.
Yeah, the best paying job I had so far was being a gravedigger. There was always work, because people always die and because of the low interest in the job, I got 50$ as normal worker. All just a question to find the right jobs.
>>713774798
Yea Facebook is a big deciding factor in who's a millennial and who's not. I think if you had Facebook while you were in school still you're a millennial.
>>713767308
Source?
>>713774471
Then stop being stupid.
Get a job, and learn responsibility.
Stop complaining about everything.
Stop protesting.
Start acting like an adult.
>>713774870
then they became hipsters
>>713774798
Facebook didn't come out until 2009...
In the 1990's, you're talking compuserve, AOL and prodigy, with chat services like IIRC.
There was no social media one the internet back then, either. That pretty much began with myspace in the mid 2000's.
i know i hate it when i have to use all of my energy to get up for another pack of doritos
>>713773682
But you think it's all one sided. Do you think there's THAT much? Take your Alex Jones theories back up you ass
>>713774998
and the projection. The god damned projection is so insufferable.
>>713774909
This. Half the problem these days is everyone is trying to get into the same jobs in the same 5 mile radius of the town they've only ever lived in their whole lives. I mean shit, I have a lazy cousin that never even finished highschool. She's nearly 20 now and still doesnt have a job. Just sits around on welfare, saving up for nights out and takes selfies all day. Somehow she thinks she can go to university one day "when she feels like it" and complains that "there's no work going".
Turns out the only "work" she's looked for was she asked a friend at Starbucks once if they can use their phones at work, and they said no.
>>713774756
Yeah it's sad. We pay high taxes and give natives lots of money. They waste it. Chiefs get millions to take care of their people, but spend it on themselves and their people live in poverty. We give cash to natives because their parents were forced to go to schools were they were sexually abused by other students or by teachers. For some of these natives we might as well have given them a bullet to the head. They'd drink and do drugs and fight with each other until they die. One guy I know of spent like 1K on shoes, 4k on booze, then got robbed of the rest before getting arrested, all within a week of getting his check.
>>713775057
>mid 2000's
>>713773682
I did Google it. All of it partisan heresay and fishy sources
>>713770129
>mfw "timely mannor"
>timly mannor
>timmay manor
>>713774909
>The only fear I have, are the lazy people, that don't want to work (and there are a lot of them within millenials)
Count me as one of those. Wasting over half a decade of my life working for rich construction business owners, yet not even being able to pay my electric bill or buy food, always choosing one or the other, has put me off work permanently. I despise the idea of working for someone else.
I now get by with the minimum work possible, apply for maximum benefits, and live significantly better than I did when I was working my ass off. I get money from the government and yet I still hate them because deep down, I would've wanted to earn it. Oh well, money is money.
I'm thinking of going into nursing, saving up as much money as possible, buying property and living off rent. Fuck working. And I feel no shame in taking the maximum benefits they will allow me. Fuck working 12 hours a day doing heavy masonry so they can shut off my fucking electric on a Friday night. FUCK. That.
The Heroin epidemic
>>713775285
>>713774872
When I first heard of "Idle No More" I was excited because I thought it meant they were going to get jobs and stop taking government handouts.
>>713775133
well mostly considering the thousands of reports.
Google is your friend.
>>713774998
I have a job, I am pretty responsible considering I'm 22 and am living successfully on my own.
Every millennial I know is employed and responsible, not myself or a single one of the millennials I know has participated in a protest.
I've had people who I'm helping at work complain about millennials while I'm in the process of helping them, then backtrack to say "but you're alright"
I don't get why you wouldn't just say you hate lazy, freeloading people and not generalize every young person.
>>713775057
2009? More like 2006 or something
>>713774798
I am 30, almost 31, born in 1986. I do not relate to anyone born in 1996 at fucking all. not in the least. being lumped together with a group of people that is as foreign to me as gen-x was to baby boomers is fucking annoying.
>>713775507
I thought it was about not letting your car idle so much the first time I heard it. Like that's what comes to mind from the name.
>>713770599
Enjoy muh freedom you mcfagget
>>713775524
2006 was youtube
>>713775057
Thanks, encyclopedia Edward.
I think knowing I didn't have facebook, and that my girlfriend did, and knowing our ages gives me a pretty solid idea of when it was out.
If you asked me to guess I'd have said 2008 because it was sometime in first year uni I noticed all the girls in the library were on a similar website.
Also everyone had MySpace when I was in highschool, no one actually used it though.
>>713767489
You grew up under 8 years of Obama! He srcrewed up the American economy, instead of making it better it got progressively worse.
Enter Donald Trump!
>>713775392
There were some youtube videos that showed election machines not letting you vote Trump and some guys managing the voting polls only allowing you to pick hillary and watching over you as you voted
Those got taken down. I'm sure there's still plenty of proof.
It's not big deal though. Who cares? Do you honestly think Trump will be any different than the other shit tier politicians who look only after themselves? They're all the same shit man.
>>713775507
I meant the worst abbos
>>713775422
I honestly can't blame you. I believe in hard work and I can't stand people who just soak up handouts but when you see so many doing it you eventually realize that you're the sucker for not getting yours. You may as well. Or you can suffer with your morals while breaking your back for nothing.
>>713766183
We have the bitching of the previous generations through media and old war stories. Specific examples nostalgia critic review haunted mansion, bitches about the iphone generation, My dad talking about dragging a truck through the mud in the army.
>>713766183
The opiate epidemic is killing a lot of my friends
>>713775680
2005 was youtube, 2004 was facebook. According to Google at least. Facebook was huge when I was in high school. I graduated in 2008.
>>713766183
The main difference between our generation and previous generations from the past couple centuries, is that the general populace is profiting less and less from constant on-going wars. In previous generations, war used to boost the economy by making jobs both at home and abroad, but now only elite industrials and their pet politicians benefit from it.
There's also debt, environmental concerns, increasing class divide, privacy concerns, but all those problems stem from the war monopoly.
>>713775746
>Or you can suffer with your morals while breaking your back for nothing.
Damn right. I felt like a fucking tool working 12 hours a day breaking my fingernails in half for some piece of shit making 200k/year off my labor. Like a mexican slave laborer. Yeah, some valuable life experience there.
Meanwhile all the niggers in the neighborhood had just-released expensive phones and never worried about food.
What the fuck.
>be from Australia
>24mil people or so on an island about the size of the US
>enough room for everyone to have 2 squared km of land each
>mfw I will never be able to afford a house
>>713775520
If all of what you said about yourself is true, which I doubt, then you are literally the exception to the true generalization.
>>713766183
Growing up in an era where advanced electronics work like magic and cost a fraction of what similar levels of tech did in prior generations.
>>713775057
>>713775524
Facebook began in 2004, however;
"The founders had initially limited the website's membership to Harvard students; however, later they expanded it to higher education institutions in the Boston area, the Ivy League schools, and Stanford University. Facebook gradually added support for students at various other universities, and eventually to high school students as well. "
29 years old here. Millennial by definition but always hanged out with generation X people.
I believe all this discussion is kind of point less because life is not a contest about who have it hard or easy... We just have different problems in different context and as fast as we get to work together the transition of generations, the better. As Tyler Durden said in Fight Club: Our Great War is Spiritual and our Great Depression is our lives...
>>713775392
youtube video was taken down by PBS Pittsburgh. I saw it myself.
>>713766183
Life is not harder for you. You are softer and weaker than pervious generations. Now stab yourself in your weak woman's heart and put yourself out of your misery and mine. Your breathing my air!
>>713775680
Youtube came about back in '05. Facebook is a little more confusing because it was founded in '04, but very limited to who could join. You had to be invited for a while, then they make registration wide open.
>>713774558
As an added benefit the age of consent would have to be lowered to 9, so families don't have to skip a generation.
>>713775057
>>713775524
>>713776042
Ya'll gonna argue with someone who knows his internet history well enough to know about shit like compuserve and prodigy..
daayum! I think the confusion is more to do with not when it was released but when it became massively popular.
>>713776009
It is all true, I guess the only thing I'm doing irresponsibly is drinking like a fish but I doubt that has to do with my age.
I've never met the people you guys describe, I think the hate is for a small minority of young people and it just blows up into a disdain for all of them.
And it's really disheartening to be successful, and doing my absolute best and still hear people say that I'm lazy and unmotivated.
>>713776161
>Your breathing my air!
It's not like you'll be needing it for much longer, old man.
>>713766183
We have it easy man, is just pussies that cant handle life complaining cuz they dont have enough balls to kill themselves
>>713776324
> Islamic propheticness intensifies
>>713776393
Most people are lazy and unmotivated because the idea of working 50 hours a week to still live in your mom's basement or attic with lifelong crippling student debt isn't appealing to most people.
So why not just spend your 20s waiting for death playing video games instead?
>>713766183
>What exactly is it about being a Millennial that makes life so much harder than other generations?
Nothing. You just like to whine more.
>>713775057
YOU FORGOT FRIENDSTER.
NO ONE FORGETS FRIENDSTER.
NO ONE.
FRIENDSTER 4EVA.
>>713775414
lol Thank you for that
>>713775057
>no social media back then
Not true. The earliest big social media site we had in Sweden started in 1996. It wasn't on the scale of anything nowadays, but there were social media platforms already in the late 90's.
>>713770990
You know most mortgages have been 15 to 30 years since the 40s right? Finding it hard to imagine taking 10 years to pay off a house tells me you're either a child or completely oblivious to how things work.
>>713772470
>I hope they pay well up there
HAH. Little do most people know, we're dead inside.
>>713776473
I'm 20. I'm just not a little bitch.
>>713776968
You're misreading. Ten years of pay. That is 10 years' salary.
>>713777171
Who? Canadians or nurses?
>>713777220
For 10 year's pay I could buy a mansion.
>>713777220
To put things in perspective, I bought a shitty condo in 2013 for just under 3 times my salary with a 25 year mortgage.
>>713776869
A fucking chat service with a buddies list is not a social media network.
>>713773843
Doubtful. less people means less government funded health care.
>>713777285
Canadians.
>>713775414
I knew it wasn't worth reading too closely after seeing that they wrote "could care less," but "timly mannor" is on a different level
>>713776585
Again, never met a person like that but maybe that's because I'm employed and I really like being employed.
If I spent all day playing video games and not working I'd probably kill myself.
>>713777425
That's kind of ridiculous. I know lots of people who went in nursing, they all found job easily. The percentage of nurses if anything would be higher for smaller populations.
I get paid less and my job is more difficult than the exact same job was 20 years ago.
>>713775921
+1
The reason we just go on living "everyday life.. " without realizing what's really happening... is the reason we're in this mess..
>>713770990
>It could easily take a full TEN YEARS worth of pay to buy a mediocre 2/3-bedroom house where I live.
>Ten. Fucking. Years. That's insane. You could literally send me out into the woods with nothing but a manual chain saw, a couple buckets of nails, and some basic hand tools, and I could build a comparable house, minus furnishings and fancy trimmings (which are a trivial expense compared to the rest of a typical home) in a fraction of that time.
That's exactly the problem. There is no limit on the amount of profit that business owners are allowed to make. They can build a house for 17,000 at cost to them and then sell it for 250,000.
>>713777326
No shit, I live in Ohio and make a little over 80k a year. For 800k I could live in a fucking mansion. Also, you can buy a house in the ghetto here for like 6k so that whole cost of housing argument is bullshit. It's only expensive to live someplace fucking fancy. There's plenty of work around because nobody here seems to want to do any of it either.
>>713777193
Ha, you're younger than me, fellow millennial.
>>713777683
ikr jobs are getting so much harder, especially in IT.
I had to become dependent on xanax just to get through the stress of my days but wound up so mentally fogged and bogged down that I ended up getting fired for not keeping up.
>>713777785
They can only sell what someone will buy...
>>713767816
Yeah, there are definitely arguments that some milenials have it rough. However.... it's still 2016, milenials are yong with more technology than ever. in other ways, there is more opportunity than ever. baby boomers didn't have youtube jobs or 4chan fapathons.
>>713777604
Try working with heavy stone or shingling roofs in 100 degree summer heat for $8/hr. It'll change your mind pretty quick.
>>713777628
Who is paying for them? There are X nurses jobs available based on the earnings and subsidies for the hospitals. Lower population means less subsidy.
Also consider, no offense to you or your friends, but medical assistants including nurses are the most popular jobs right now because anyone can do them, they take very little education time and the pay was relatively good for time spent.
That is no longer the case because nurses and dental assistants etc. flooded the market. There is no demand.
>>713778177
Would still be just fine.
I hate myself pretty thoroughly and work is the only place I feel good because it's a purpose of some sort.
My last job involved a lot of physical labor and I loved it thoroughly.
>>713778263
STNA and LPN jobs are in huge demand around here with most places paying full wages for training and coursework.
>>713772205
IT has sucked since early 2000s unless you created a new IP. Being an employee in IT is a waste unless you do the above or enjoy being menial and get a government job.
My job has nothing to do with IT but when something fucks up I literally walk them through how to fix it.
>example: what's a registry? Mandatory profile what? Dumb bastards they are
>>713778263
That's why taxes are so high. But you still need thesame number of nurses per 100K people, but in high population areas it's easier to "share" nurses, and the demand is more flat because of high number averages. So to meet the demand you need a higher number for lower populations.
>>713778154
Uhh... and the buyers have, what for choices? Who offers them their choices?
Are you fucking kidding me? Did you think at all before you made that post?
>>713766183
I thought I was being oppressed once...turns out I just had gas
>>713778715
He has a point. Unless there is a monopoly you should have choices that compete with each other.
>>713778715
They could always buy a piece of land, put a tent on it, build a shitter hole and tap a well.
If 10 million people did that, you'd see housing prices drop in no time.
>>713778909
Or more realistically they would succesfully lobby for a law against people doing that.
>>713778263
I don't know what planet you live on but indeed, craigslist, and a shitload of other job sites are FULL of nurse jobs. Absolutely chock fucking full.
>>713778381
No you would not. Try breaking a fingernail in half and dealing with that pain for 3 months for $8/hr. No medical benefits.
You would not. Trust me. Stick to the office jobs. There's no pride in breaking your back like a retard for some business owner pulling in 200k/yr at your expense. Do what's best for you and forget shitty pride and morals.
When I applied for benefits it was abetter time of life, I basically got a 6 month vacation, and then was allowed to apply again the next year. I am now dedicated to getting the maximum benefits I can so I can live a half decent life. The extra time not working will also buy me time to build my own business in any way I can.
>>713778398
>>713778641
Because there is no opportunity for advancement so people get a little money and leave.
Saskatchewan just lost a tonne of workers because of the fort mcmurray fire and people leaving that oil industry. No one wants to live in Manitoba Saskatchewan or Alberta unless you are in or next to Edmonton, Calgary, Regina or Winnipeg. No one outside of Saskatchewan knows about saskatoon as anything but a layover. People get their money and leave. Medical assistants are not in demand but the turnover is high right now because of people abandoning the province and it is incredibly easy to get the training done.
>>713779113
People are basically fleeing that province right now. That is not a good thing. I mean government and medical professional jobs, among others, would be the last to go but there are no good prospects there right now.
>>713778827
I know. It's not like if all the sudden I don't want to pay $250,000 for this house over here that cost 17,000 to build that I can just drive down the street and buy a comparable house for 80 grand.
Jeez, stupid fucking people.
>>713779254
Why are they fleeing? Canadian niggers?
If not there, then do you think the Yukon or maybe nunavut would be good? I love cold places and I want to be somewhere that isn't too heavily populated but still enough for a medium/large hospital to be around.
Whitehorse looks fairly nice.
>>713779142
>Because there is no opportunity for advancement so people get a little money and leave.
Honestly that's kind of what I'm gonna do when I get my RN. Work my ass off a couple years, buy property, live off rent, start a business. It is by no means a lifelong career to me. My goal is to stop working and a RN is just a faster way to get there. I hope...
>>713779534
>>713779637
Terrible economy. Oil bubble basically burst with fort McMurray and the hold ups in the states.
Territories would be much more stable if they are hiring. Manitoba is much more stable than AB. SK. but to be honest the native problem there is out of hand.
>>713778006
This. Millennials are a culture of entitlement they think they are "owed" a million dollar house in the suburbs. Wake up faggots you will work for shit until you prove yourself or start your own successful business. Yeah that means not playing video games in moms basement and crying about no opportunity. Fuck grow up (that means grow up when you are 18 not 30 fucking neckbeards) your parents are the problem they have enabled you to be losers. Bad parenting and entitled faggots are the problem. Period
>>713779142
I have a software developer job and I don't relate. My friend got a OHS job where he takes home 1600 every two weeks. I know people in real estate who have $60,000 weeks. There are good jobs in Saskatchewan. My IT friend who couldn't cut it as a dev makes over 50K/year. Waitresses can easily make 50K+ (and don't pay taxes).
>>713779113
I've hurt myself plenty at work.
Nearly broke all my fingers when a compressor came down on them, cracked an ankle bone pinching it in a pallet jack.
I don't really care because most injuries anyways are because of not following safety procedures.
My pride and morals are what keep me happy so I'll work hard and enjoy them.
I do admittedly work a very safe and easy job now, but if I could go back to my old job I would in a heartbeat.
>>713779896
I want to stay the fuck away from natives. Is Whitehorse in the yukon infested or are decent people living up there?
What about nunavut? I don't know where manitoba is. Or what AB and SK stand for.
>>713779983
That sounds harsh. Hope you mad medical coverage. A lot of people don't even get that much.
