help /b/ I need medfags
Me being the dumbass I am, I was playing with 220V of electricity. I ended up holding two wires by accented and plugging the other side into the outlet.
>pic related
I think the skin is melted and I cant feel anything on the melted parts. My hand is burning hot.
What do? will it heal, or do I need to do something to it?
OP is kill.
>>713588168
It's a burn obviously.
Seek actual medical attention?
>>713588307
Electrical burns are different from normal burns, thats why I'm not sure.
Keep it clean and cover it with somthing to stop anything getting inside the wound so it doesnt cause an infection, Go to a doctor if you can better to be safe than sorry
>>713588168
What you need to do is go see a doctor, not ask for advice on an image board.
The standard procedure for treating burns is as follows:
Run cold water over it for 15 minutes then wrap it in cling film and if it's larger than a 50 pence coin go to A and E.
Yours is larger than 50 pence coin so go to A and E.
>>713588452
this
disinfect and cover. also, doctor.
Regular burns get blisters I think so ur just gonna have a bad time recovering
>>713588168
have a trauma surgeon look at the wound. Impossible to assess how deep the damaged tissue goes. If your tendons got damaged, hf with dupuytren in the future.
drink a lot, watch your urine. if its getting red search for a clinic immediately.
healing takes forever.
godspeed u dumbass playing kiddo
Heat it up with a lighter OP, it'll come right off.
>>713588452
this, he sounds smart
>>713588168
Do you have a picture that isn't nigger quality?
I swear, /b/ I'd be here all day, diagnosing your retard injuries and dick sores.
Pretty much the correct answer in every picture I diagnose is: GO TO THE MOTHER FUCKING DOCTOR, YOU CUNTS. WEBMD CAN'T FIX YOUR SHIT.
>>713588168
Those are 3rd degree but she bro. I am a welder aND I get them every now and then. Usually I just nurse the shit out of them but since it's on your hand I would goto the doctor. You use your hand so much and it's the first point of contact to germs you have a very high risk of infection.
>>713588168
Thats a pretty beast burn man. As long as you can still move your hand just keeping the burn clean should suffice.
If you can't move your hand it's ER time
>>713588168
your wound is obviously infected with electricity, stop the bloodstream to your hand till you see a doctor
>>713588553
>>713588452
I got it all covered up now, my cars out for the day so im sort of stuck right now.
>>713588635
And I can still move it fine with no pain at all, just a slight burning.
>>713588615
And its nearly 4k you cunt.
>>713588764
4k
why do people come to /b/ for medical advice?
>>713588634
How long do they normally take to heal for you if you mind answering.
>>713588168
BSN, RN here OP.
You need to go to a Dr. and get that cleaned up. Electricity burns are dangerous because they typically have to have an exit wound somewhere too. Looks like you got lucky and both the burns are close together. But it's really hard to say since you "can't feel" the area. You need get it cleaned up and start wet wrapping it so that they skin doesn't get infected. Don't leave it open to air by any means, even if it means just wrapping wet gauze around it. Make sure that it's wet because eventually the skin is going to start weeping and the gauze could fuse with your skin if you it gets wet and sticky from the body fluids.
tl;dr Nurse says go to the Doctor and get it scanned and cleaned up.
>>713588526
This, cling film is great for keeping germs out of the wound to prevent infection. Just wrap a bunch of it around being sure to completely cover the burn so that no air can get to it.
>>713588421
>Electrical burns are different from normal burns, thats why I'm not sure.
DING DING DING! CORRECT!
>>713588383
DING DING DING! CORRECT!
>>713588511
DING DING DING! CORRECT!
>>713588565
Faggot.
>>713588615
This is me.
Here is what you do, OP. Read very carefully and do exactly what I say.
Go to the doctor. Electrical burns are different than regular burns. An electrical burn that bad requires an ER visit.
>>713588168
>>713588168
https://soundcloud.com/catilluminati/m-o-t-i-o-n-ft-vince-staples
>>713588168
I've seen this before you will need to amputate the hand to save the arm.
Source: am neuro surgeon
The shock could have fucked with you heart beat you can die in your sleep
>>713588764
Don't listen to that tard about moving it that doesn't mean shit. Those white patches are gonna fall off soon leaving crater like sores and after a few days you will get this waxy like shit that covers them. It's gonna take months to fully heal. Since it is on you hand tho you are at huge risk from infection. If you have insurance goto the damn doctor.
>>713588764
Why did u put a kraft cheese to cover the wound?
So basically you have a third degree burn.
Melting of flesh, possibly tissue, nerve and bone.
You MAY regain feeling, but unless you go to a doctor you wouldn't know.
I'd say just learn from it and move on man, you won't die.
>>713588168
So you're saying it was nerve gas?
Water will make the white shot go away, you'll probably be fine, but you should still go see a doctor since I'm just some asshole on a Gregorian redwood tree farming website.
>>713589055
The lost feeling is just on the main burn, so im not that worried about it, but thanks anyways.
>>713589033
The white patches already started coming off while rinsing it, now its all covered up and cleaned. Thanks though.
>>713589379
Alright God speed anon. I'm telling you now though, when it starts to heal the skin is gonna be tight around the crater and it's gonna hurt like a motherfucker. Keep it clean and make sure the bandage has ointment on it or it will fuse to your wound. Been there done that, would not recommend it.
It could be lupus
Needs to be properly cleaned.
You WILL antibiotic cream and possibly oral antibiotics if it gets infected.
Proper dressings and frequent changes will be needed.
Surgical debridement MAY be necessary.
Shit's going to take a long time to heal.
Burns will be deeper into tissue than what is visible.
Don't be surprised if you need a skin graft.
Shit is going to hurt/itch like crazy.
Nerve damage may take months to recover from if at all.
>>713589614
Thanks alot for the advice, I'll make sure to do that until I can get to a doctor.
>>713588168
The electricity can damage your heart rate and clog your blood vessels at the very worst. The burn is of course a huge problem but damage to heart, blood vessels and neural damage can take a long time to notice. See a doctor and tell them what happened. You can have fatal injuries beyond what is visible and what you feel. Blood thinners solve the problem of blood drying up in your veins and if you remember at all getting unconscious you could have developed neural damage that can cause issues later in life.
I'm an electrician, not a doctor.
You are lucky that you held both wires in one hand. The current only went through the hand tissue not through your body. Delayed cardiac complications are unlikely.
The tissue is severely burnt. This can cause major problems as soon as the necrosis of the destroyed tissue sets in. It can lead to scarring with restriction of the hand movement, ugly holes and nasty long lasting infections. Up to a sepsis.
If you are willing to risk any of that go ahead with the plaster.
If not. Seriously, go see a doctor.
>>713588168
need to clean it out so it doesnt get infected more and just wait for it to heal up
>>713590634
yes
>>713588168
Ivan, your hand good always as. Nothing of happened since was you sober. Hand hurts not, life is of does. Go, see the docrot, tell her what at happened of you of wires by you. Good luck!
>>713590424
This man is 100% correct, this is one of those things that is REALLY worth getting checked out, and not just for that sicknasty burn.
>>713590424
>clog your blood vessels at the very worst.
Deep electrical burns can cause capillary damage that will affect blood flow. Tissue that is healthy now, may soon start to die from lack of proper circulation, and cause deep tissue necrosis. This will kill healthy tissue around it (aka, gangrene). If this does happen, surgical debridement will be necessary, and possibly a drain tube will be necessary. The wound may also be intentionally left open so that it can drain properly on it's own.
If you are lucky, it's just skin burns, and the worst you will have is loss of flexibility as new skin regrows to replace burnt skin.
Once you are past the point of possible infection, and the wound is fully closed, moisturizers (stretch mark creams or coconut oil), and constant gentle stretching and physical therapy. Once things are done healing, if you have limited flexibility, that's pretty much all you will have.
Obviously not tesla, stop
Atoms with something you know nothing about
>>713591009
Agreed, Boccia. Life not atoms movement to. Plasma not go this hand well.
>>713588168
I worked in a burn unit - you have 3rd degree burns. You need to see a doctor and are in for a painful fucking experience. They will need to debried your hands to clear out the dead tissue. I think they do this to prevent sepsis. Hopefully the muscles are ok.
I'm not joking. This is NOT something you can fucking ignore. If you do decide to ignore it or whatever, please make sure to take a photo every day, for future doctors to show to people.
>>713588553
He is right. Go to doctor. You don't know if you have nerve damage or whatever
>>713588764
>And its nearly 4k you cunt.
what the fuck man, don't you have medical insurance? where do you live?
>>713591425
USA
>repeal and replace
It will heal. Keep it covered.
I burnt the back of my hand a few months ago and made the mistake of airing it out. It scarred really bad. Not like it matters on the palm of your hand, but still keep bandages on it.
Amputation is required if duct tape does not work.
>>713590968
This. Depending on the severity you may also need an IV drip to replace fluids lost during the shock.
>>713591386
Some people don't understand that burned area with no pain means nerves are killed
>>713591386
Burn unit anon will verify that electrical burns are a completely different animal than heat burns.
With a heat burn, you can look at the outside and pretty much tell what's happening underneath. THe most damage is at the outer layers, and less as you go in deeper.
Electrical burns can be worse underneath because the moist tissue beneath the skin is more conductive than the skin is, and it can spread further and deeper than the visible damage to the skin. It may take a few days or a seek as the damaged tissue underneath starts to either re-heal, or die that you won't know the extent of the damage.
It is not unusual for them t have to cut through healthy tissue and undamaged skin to get to damaged tissue underneath.
A deep tissue infection can go from 0 to 60 in hours. Don't ignore any symptoms as just "not feeling well".
>>713588168
No doctor can fix stupidity, KYS
>>713588168
You'll be fine, if you go to a doctor.
you want to get a check up to make sure it didn't fuck your heart up. Electricity does some pretty messed up things to the nervous system too. I bet your arm felt floppy for a while after this, maybe a little paralyzed and buzzing. I've done the same thing with 120v far less dangerous than what you did.
>>713591543
Why didn't you buy insurance you dog fucking hillbilly? Was it not clear enough to you that you need it? When they fined you for NOT getting insurance, what did you think?
Fuck OBAMA he's GONA TAKE MAH GUNS #MAGA?
>>713591858
He already did, he just doesn't know it yet.
>>713588168
I stopped reading after....
>I ended up holding two wires by accented and plugging the other side into the outlet.
AHAHAHAHAHA I knew there was a reason I still come to this site
>>713588764
i can make 4k images aswell if a upscale 1 pixel to the correct resolution, doesnt mean it's a good picture you dumb fuck
>>713588168
If you are not stupid, you will go to an doctor otherwise u risk ur hand or maybe even life for 4k. And don't play with electric you idiot, its nothing to play with.
>>713588860
cus they are from the US, and have no money to go to doctor... A normal person from the EU would go to a doctor immediately
>>713591881
Wasn't me, and I'm a eurofag, just can't get to a doctor for a few hours.
>>713592003
US is second world country. Really uneducated, much crime, much homeless, much corruption, no medical insurance for all. Thats what defines second world countries
>>713589054
top kek
>>713592026
ah ok, sorry for the rant. bit sensitive about the election right now.
>>713592026
ok, please do ok?
>>713592026
Enjoy your cripple hand. After contact with high electricity you should always call an ambulance.
>>713592003
only a cuck goes to a docter
>>713592136
its called universal healthcare
>>713592222
Before this turns into ANOTHER fucking Trump thread, just take the medical-anon's advice.
Electrical burns are nothing to fuck around with, and that one looks not so great.
Go to a doctor.
>>713592242
>only a cuck goes to a docter
Only an idiot puts pride or embarrassment before health.
>>713588168
> you have to plug it in upside down to reverse the effects.
>>713588168
I would go see a doctor else Just Keep it Clean no touchy get some Gauze on it with very light to no pressure
>>713592026
>just can't get to a doctor for a few hours.
Mate, I'm going to be blunt with you. It might not seem like it now on account of you being able to type on an internet message board, but this is an actual medical fucking emergency.
Whatever you're doing is not as important as fucking up you left hand.
Go to a doctor. Now.
>>713592222
checked
>>713592369
also, only an idiot spells doctor with an e
you are a zombie now
>>713588168
Go to an urgent care office and have it lookd at by an MD or Nurse Practitioner. It looks deep. You want to an infection. FYI: You're lucky you didn't die of electrocution.
>>713590026
Don't put vaseline on it btw. Get some Bio-Oil and use that. It says not to put it on broken skin but I recently burned myself with cooking oil and I used bio-oil from the start. I tried vaseline at first but it made fabrics stick and I had to rip the scabs off.
Also you're supposed to put cling film over fresh burns (unroll it a bit first so the piece you use was not exposed to the outside). Anything thicker will keep the heat in so the flesh continues being damaged. Maybe it's different for electric burns though.
>>713592543
>also, only an idiot spells doctor with an e
Touche.
Hoisted on my own petard by a typo.
>>713592551
>>713588168
some guys don't sit when they pee they stand, I am not one of those guys, but baby I can dance dance dance dance dance dance
How long ago did this happen? It takes awhile for the full pain of a burn to come down on your ass.
>>713588168
in germany you MUST stay in a hospital for at least 24h to monitor, because of the aftermath.
so as many other told you, you should go to see a doctor.
>>713592159
>ah ok, sorry for the rant. bit sensitive about the election right now.
Hahaha stay salty Shillaryfag
>>713591966
This. Photo quality has more to do with lighting and ISO than pixel count.
>>713588168
It will heal, may leave a scar, even being on the palm. I touched the wrong thing in a 5KW AM broadcast transmitter years ago and took 3600V from the screen, Kept the resulting burn bandaged. Still have a scar, but didn't seek medical attention. Your call on that. But you'll live. Just hurt for a bit, and the third or fourth day it will bleed a BIT.
>>713592660
You can always leave hospital in own risk unless someone says you psychological ill.
>>713592611
Dont do that OP Bio-Oil will fucking wreak havoc on your skin, the fuck dude, he has a serious condition
Burns are very prone to infection. You need medical treatment immediately. Go to A&E
>>713592912
>Bio-Oil will fucking wreak havoc on your skin
Why?
Here's a quick diagnosis.
The white skin is already dead. How deep that goes won't be know until it is removed or falls off.
The white areas are the entry wounds. All of the tissue between those spots underneath the skin is damaged, and possibly dead.
You have no open wounds, so the dead tissue will putrefy and release fluids that will either pool locally, and need draining, or enter the bloodstream and cause sever reactions to vital organs. Your liver, heart, and kidneys don't like dead tissue fluids, and don't react to them well.
ANY increase in temperature is a sign that you have problems other than just your hand.
You WILL need fluids, antibiotics, and medications to stabilize your system and prevent further tissue damage.
>>713592863
you could, but its not recommended
and if then something happens, your insurance company will fuck you up
>>713592975
Because of almonds obv
>>713588168
You're fine, just an electrical burn. Keep it clean, let your body take care of itself. DONT COVER IT. It's a minor burn so you should leave it uncovered.
>>713593029
This.
Go to the doc, before the doc will come to you.
>>713593109
I know this is way matter, but I'll still contribute.
You know that you have an electrical burn. The difference between electrical and regular burns is that electrical burns typically have entry and exit points. Internal damage can occur between those two points, so yeah I'd recommend a doctor's visit
>>713588168
LISTEN TO ME OP
if you dont want to pay to go to doc go to pharmacy buy gauze and Silver sulfadiazine(dunno whats the actual cream called in your counter its just the stuff thats in it) it it used for preventing infection in wounds ( i had to use it after operation when they had to leave the open wound) soo apply cream cover with gauze next day clean the wound reapply cream cover and repeat ... if that white shit starts to smell or if its smelly now its ingected and go to doc !!
>>713593551
>if that white shit starts to smell or if its smelly now its ingected and go to doc !!
The white shit is already deal. What's the issue is the tissue underneath the skin between the burns. There is no way to tell if it is damaged until sepsis or gangrene sets in and topical creams are useless on it.
Relying on a topical ointment only gives things underneath more time to rot and make things worse.
>>713592679
Sure will. I like my health care. I believe in global warming. I think banks should be regulated. I think we need a safety net for our poor and disadvantaged. The rich-poor gap in our country is a long term stability problem. I think the President should act like an adult, not a petulant child.
I deeply believe these things. And I'm ok being salty about that. I know it isn't cool and edgy to care about stuff, but I care about my country. It makes me sad to think of all the people who reached out for help, and believed Trump could do something. He is a sad second rate conman.. but I guess that is good enough to be president these days.
>>713593551
I still have a couple jars of Silver sulfadiazine cream in my medkit. They're about 2 years past expiration though. I gotta go through my bag soon and figure out what I can and cant use.
>>713593827
>already deal
(already dead)
Try jerking off with that hand and cum all over the burn marks
Im on mobile so I can't do it but someone shoop his burn into a Pepe. Think sideways. Post results
>>713593867
>Silver sulfadiazine cream in my medkit. They're about 2 years past expiration though.
Just as an aside, creams that don't require refrigeration are pretty stable and have a shelf life way longer than their expiration dates. The dates are mandated by the FDA, and don't reflect actual usefulness.
A sealed container or simply not starting to dry out means the cream is probably good.
>>713594228
please don't smear shit on a wound when you know nothing about it , ok?
its like 4 pm UK, why can't you go to a doctor?
1. your hand is burning because you just electrocuted yourself
2. the skin is burned, it will heal
you dumb fuck
>>713593827
you might want to peel of the dead skin ( I AM NOT SURE NOT A DOC) coming from logic you want new skin to start forming so removing old one and also dead things usually start to rot dont they ? NOT SURE that his is right decision tho
>>713594391
>please don't smear shit on a wound when you know nothing about it , ok?
No IDs here, but
>>713593827
>>713593029
>>713591802
>>713590968
>>713589857
>>713594228
Are all me. Been telling him to get off his ass and get proper medical the entire thread.
>>713594576
Absolutely not. Don't peel the skin off, you're just asking for an infection. Keep it clean and uncovered for a couple days, keep an eye on it. If it starts changing weird colors and you start feeling sick go see a doc, till then it's nothing the body can't handle.
Former US Special Forces medic here. Go to the fucking doctor. There might be more damage than meets the eye. Also AC current does not just follow the most direct path. It electrified your entire body and may fuck with your heart and possibly cause death later today. If you can't afford it just bankrupt that shit later on.
>>713592551
>someone actually took the time to do this
>>713594713
>special fores medic
>>713595003
>>special forces medic
Lies or not, this fucker is right.
>>713594391
I lack a car, and the money to pay for an ambulance. I just called a friend to drive me over. Thanks anyways for all your help, I've come to the conclusion that electricity was invented by Satan to kill all stupid people.
>Inb4 religion fag, it's a joke.
>>713590424
Dude, electricity only damages the heart if the current actually moves through the heart. Here it looks like the current only moved thorugh his hand.
>>713588168
cum on it. You'll be fine
>>713595385
Looks like it missed its mark.
>>713595330
As someone who's been electrocuted multiple times and been burned I can say beyond any shadow of a doubt this fucker is not right. I mean technically he is, but I'm still breathing and never went to see a doctor anytime I got hit.
Keep it clean, let your body take care of itself, it'll let you know if theres something wrong.
>>713595385
>I just called a friend to drive me over.
Smartest decision you made all morning.
Treat yourself to a cookie.
(Seriously, a little blood sugar wouldn't hurt)
>>713590932
>Ivan, your hand good always as. Nothing of happened since was you sober. Hand hurts not, life is of does. Go, see the docrot, tell her what at happened of you of wires by you. Good luck!
'docrot' Top kek!
This is an quality shitp0st, well done.
(You)'re going to die, OP
>>713595754
>let your body take care of itself, it'll let you know if theres something wrong
And if your body won't tell you, the coroner will.
>>713595927
Uh, love you too
>no monies
soo?? you don't need it
go to the hospital, take an ambulance if need be, get that shit taken care of at the emergency room.
just ignore any bills they send you, ALL HOSPITALS write off any unpaid bills at the end of the year and get them paid of by the government, so they don't give a shit if you pay or not either way they will get their money so fuck them.
what's more important, your hand/life? or that the hospital gets their monies?
>>713595951
Your body will tell you, you just need to pay attention to it.
>>713588764
i thought it was a slice of cheese
>>713595830
fuck me i kek'd
fuckin ivan
>>713592136
yup
they're so fucked up they actully believe they were great ... the only time america was great wass when it was still controlled by britain.... then u fucked it up and tried to take canada with you and we were all "nah bro! leave us alone!" then u didn't so we kicked your asss...... thats right AMERICA LOST A WAR TO CANADA.. never forget --1812 baby. burnt down your white (pink) house at the time too (made of rose wood)
>>713588764
>Thinking a store bought plaster is going to stop the dead tissue poisoning your organs
You will probably not die, but your hand is gonna be in flaring hot agony in the next few days unless you go to the doctor.
Like the burn. Imagine that feeling, but for dozens of hours on end and on the inside, where all the fleshy bits are.
Can't wait for the point where you consider taking the hand off to stop the pain. You retard, you deserve it kek.
>>713595754
>As someone who's been electrocuted multiple times and been burned I can say beyond any shadow of a doubt this fucker is not right.
Tool and machinery mechanic for 30+ years. If it was 110, i'd laugh and tell him "you done learned a lesson", but 220 is a different animal, and creates currents inside the body (see Ohm's law at the back of the book for the new students), that are far more destructive.
I've been bit multiple times with both 110 and 220, but that is more than a simple "fuck me". There is visible damage.
>>713596277
I'm just gonna say it. Call of Pripyat was by far the best Stalker made next to Shadow of Chernobyl. Clear sky was almost trash in comparison.
>>713588168
Med fag here. You need gauze and saline solution clean and remove white tissue (that's dead). Then dry and get silver Sulfadiazine (flamazine in U.K.)
Cover and changer every two days until pink tissue appears.
>>713596519
i thought that was common knowledge?
call of pripyat>any other stalker
not related to stalker but i can't wait to try out escape from tarkov
>>713596536
>clean and remove white tissue (that's dead)
Don't do this. The dead tissue still has adhesions to live tissue underneath. Let is separate as naturally as possible unless medical debriding is necessary.
>>713588168
>>713588526
it's not a normal burn, asshole. its a high voltage electrical injury. the whole inside of his hand could be cooked, which is what it looks like.
go to the doctor dude. if the flesh on the inside is cooked you could lose the hand. you need to deal with that.
>>713588764
you should really use clingfilm, plaster /bandage can rip off your burnt skin. meaning it will hurt a load and be open for infection.
op halp
>>713600056
Zoomed in and your sperm count is really low.
Better go see a Doctor immediately.
Never under any circumstance run water over an electrical wound! It will electrocute your heart and kill you!
Electrician here:
I admire you champing it out, but realistically 220v can and will fuck with your heart beat. Every time I've been shocked I always go to the ER because besides suffering from fried nerve endings and gnarly burns, due to my weight I have a higher chance for cardiac arrest.
Shell out the money. Go to a hospital.
>>713592551
kek
>>713588168
>>713588764
I am Dr.
Keep it clean, watch how it develops. Nothing that can be done about the damage that has been caused.
Wound may be deeper than you thought, so if it starts getting real fucky, seek a doctor.
If you think it passed through your heart, or you start feeling something in your chest, seek medical attention as it may have burned some conductive pathways in your heart. Main reason with electrical injury unless you are noticably fucked up to seek medical care is to get an ECG.
>>713600319
>Never under any circumstance run water over an electrical wound! It will electrocute your heart and kill you!
So what your saying is that electrical wounds need to be properly grounded.
Rub some dirt in it and walk it off?
>>713588168
By the desicription you gave, it makes it sound like you got grounded, and by doing that you got electricity going through you. That is life dangering. If that's the case, GO TO HOSPITAL! you could get cardiac dysrhythmia, and or blood could start too congeal, altho' the blood part i do think the electricity must punctre your skin thus making your resistance basically zero
