Nonsexual things that you can't stop thinking about. I'll start. Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald. Was it an inside job? Also the stages of the sinking.
What fascinates you, b?
pizzagate
>>713130222
Uh the ship got caught in a storm that it couldn't handle what conspiracy could possibly be at hand here? You know a ship sinking due to bad weather isn't some mysterious phenomenon right?
>>713131392
>doubting conspiracies on /b/
oh boy
>>713131392
Of course it wasn't actually. But I like to make arguments about it to piss off my girlfriend. The actual force of the storm that took that down is unreal.
>>713130222
I can't stop thinking of torture. How can people do the things they do? Like melting the eyes of a little girl out with acid? It cuts me especially deep because I have a fragile little sister and if that ever happened to her, I just....
S.S Baychimo.
She became locked in the ice in the Arctic in the 30's and was abandoned after quite a lot of drama including an attempt at air rescue for the crew. After that she was observed many times and even boarded some but always lost again due to unfavorable weather for salvage. The last sighting was 1969. When did she finally succumb? Where did she finally end up?
>>713131925
Where does this happen?
S.S Waratah
Disappeared with no trace on the run between Durban South Africa and Cape Town. Even if the wreck is found now we'll probably never know what happened due to the probable deterioration of the wreck
>>713132220
>Where does this happen?
His mind
The quantum
It's amazing with a lot of wrecks that the final transmissions are often favorable messages. The captain assuring that they are fine, or no contact at all. What happens in those split moments between good and bad?
>>713132220
I saw it on some YouTube video. Like, "Top ten worst cases of child kidnapping."
They said if they didn't get $100,000 or something they would melt out the little girls eyes. Despite the fact that they gave them the money, they still did it, and the police found the skeleton with acid burns around the eye sockets.
They never caught who did it.
>>713133225
Slum dog?
>>713132944
In the case of the Fitzgerald, she was known to be taking on water. I agree with the theory that she bottomed out on Six Fathom Shoal since the report of her taking on water was shortly after that.
My understanding of her construction was that her bilges were open from stem to stern and the bilge pump pickups were in a narrow trough in the middle of the bilge area. It seems to me that water would be able to run fore-and-aft with increasing volume and speed until it matched up with her running down a wave and she basically just kept going down until the bow hit bottom and the ship broke in half. They probably felt it happening at the top of the wave but there was nothing to be done but hold on and scream NOOOO! in those final few seconds before the bridge was driven underwater.
>>713130222
Failed seals on the hatches. Once water starts to get in the hold of a bulk carrier...
>>713132944
That is something I've wondered about the USS Thresher. That last transmission:
>"... minor difficulties, have positive up-angle, attempting to blow"
apparently was calm. They were aware of problems, but there was never a mayday transmission. That's a bit spooky - problems either going unnoticed or escalating so quickly that things are fucked before you know it.
What exactly is UVB-76? Most think it's a deadman signal (no/incorrect signal=launch what you got) for Russian nuclear forces but since there have been interruptions in signal and non-standard transmissions over the decades it can't be that.
Was the Guy on the couch in Half Baked an FBI informant that was trying to get closer to Sampson Simpson? Lets examine the evidence:
>no one knows where he came from
>he is always there (including when they buy weed from Sampson's dude in the beginning)
>never contributes, but also never says anything indicative of why he's there or is staying
>from a plot standpoint, his only real contribution is encouraging the guys to rob the pharmaceutical place
>after he thrusts them into the robbery, he is never seen again
This shit always bothered me. Maybe just because I fuckin love Stephen Wright.
>>713130222
>Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald. Was it an inside job?
YES. Obama did it
>>713130709
I found the retard. Do i win?
>>713135313
Of course he did. Did you know Obama also sunk the Lusitania?
Fucking socialist.
>>713135313
>>713135774
Thanks Obama!
Damn gay Kenyan muzzies.
During the meltdown at Chernobyl, multiple people reported a sustained bright light and a plume of smoke that was attributed to the graphite moderator burning. However, tests and experiments with reactor grade graphite have shown that it doesn't burn. What did they see?
I'm wondering who this guy is and how many surgeries he went through to look like this
Why the Mccanns aren't in prison
The evidence clearly shows they were the ones to cover up the death (which was most likely an accident (hence the phonecall in which the mother told her own mother that it was 'just an accident')).
Instead of answering questions the mother refused and wrote a shitty book instead. She got money and didn't try to help the investigation at all
>The edmund fitzgerald sank in water shallower than the ship was long
Illuminati confirmed.
>>713138042
That is entirely possible though, surely. Why would the water need to be deep than the length of the ship
>>713138112
this
Summer home
>>713131769
im a marine engineer and ive seen some shit. also she was an iron ore carrier and thats the scarriest shit. an oil tanker wont just instantly sink because oil is lighter then water. but fucking iron ore. my nigga. that shit sinks. my mom was in the cost gaurd in canada watching a feed from a c 130 asking a ship if it needed help. a rogue wave went over the bow and it fucking disapeared of the face of the earth. FUCKING IRON ORE CARRIER
>My ex.
>The years we had together.
>How strange it is my brain almost completely blocked her out, yet knew she existed.
>How I called her, because I knew something wasn't right with my mind and how no matter how hard I tried, I could barely really remember anything about her.
>The way that whole illusion of comfort shattered the second she picked up the phone.
>"Why are you calling me anon"
>Thats the first time I've heard her voice in about a year
>My family across the country, specifically my little sister.
>How she's growing up and I'm missing out on it all.
>How the last time she saw me, when I stepped off the plane
>Mom says "go see your brother, it's anon!"
>She looked like she didn't know me
>It kind of hurt
>How I don't know where my future is going
>What its like to be in love and feel loved
>A girl I met that probably already doesn't like me
>How pretty she is
>Weed
>Homemade weapons
I'm scared and lonely. And bored and out of weed.
I cant stop thinking about the R.M.S. Titanic... was it even the titanic? Was ot an insurance scam gone wrong?
>>713130222
>Check of the Edmund Fitzgerald
Why people are so fucking stupid. It's very non-sexual and very real. Today I tried to have I nice evening on town but there was this guy picking a fight with security guards and obviously was taken down, then these fucking kids who screams all the time, and of the old ladies getting on the subway before I’ve had the chance to get of. Naturally people's bad behaviour will always be a thing I will think about.
>>713140955
I am sorry.
>>713140955
you should go and live near your sister. I know how this feels. Don't miss out.
>>713135647
found Mr. Shillingham, thought you were here. you are always here. tanking breads, setting fire to the curtains, diversionary...we know what happend and who you work for.
>twittergate
>pastebin
>pizzagate
>>713142176
People in public are like cancer, I'd rather just avoid most of them. thankfully humanity is ultimately doomed and the earth will heal itself slowly after we're gone.
>>713130222
happened near my hometown.
>>713130222
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULt6uB9mSKw
>>713141448
>Was ot an insurance scam gone wrong?
Nah. You'd spend more disguising Olympic's interiors than the effort was worth. Then, as now, people like certain ships and know what they look like inside and out.
Now if Titanic were sufficiently insured herself, and some relatively minor demolition charges, you could make sure she didn't make it to port because she "hit an iceberg". Very convenient that the very people who could call Ismay out on that story happened to go down with the ship. Maybe they drowned and maybe they were dead before the ship sank.
>>713142176
Some people are just having a bad day. Some people don't know any better. Some people really are assholes. They say even if you think you know a person, all you really see is the outside. The mask.
>>713130222
Fucking magnets, how... How do they work? Explain how the fuck it works. Pro tip. You cant.
Cognition and consciousness. Evolution. How big the universe really is. The big unknowns in life.
>>713136692
He looks like that because of inbreeding.
The Specific behaviors of the UK lobster species, homarus gammarus, Their feeding behaviour, migratory patterns, where they hide and why, what difference the external environment has on their decision making, etc. I constantly wish to understand their exact thought process.
this bucket of weird, cults and politicians
>>713143207
they dont, they just collect welfare
>>713142784
Yeah but maybe this guy has a good point:
>>713143015
yeah you are right. people who feel bad is one thing. I know what it's like and it's not like you care of others when not feeling well. I always try to smile even though people behave like idiots.
>>713143518
similarly, don't forget that Abe is also in the leadership of an imperialist cult vying to re-deify the emperor
>>713136551
Nuclear fire. The casing and concrete base probably burned.
>>713143953
Yeah, no.
>>713142176
>getting on the subway before I’ve had the chance to get of
This is something that I've never understood. Same for bathrooms when there is a line. Let people get out first - it really makes no sense any other way.
Anyway, I recommend against dwelling on the bad behavior of others too much. It only brings misery.
>>713143338
yeah interesting stuff. if you believe in the big bang, what was going on before that? did nothing exist? how is it possible for nothing to exist when we exist now? do we even exist?
>>713143953
very true. they just signed a nuke deal with Modi, pieces and parts not materials. Abe is going to modify or abandon Article 8, they will start to weaponize their 48 ton surplus of fissile-goodness
>>713144320
This
Thoughts and abstraction. Memory. Some beautifully intricate step from chemistry and biology to intangible thoughts.
>>713136551
i dont think about it often but i sometimes think about something i saw in a couple chernobyl documentaries
apparently the radiation is dissipating much faster than anybody expected. i think it's attributed to all the life there, trees and bugs and bacteria and small animals etc, sure it fucks them up but apparently there's also something about this process that renders the radioactivity inert much faster than anticipated
just seems interesting
>>713144320
I know but it is difficult. How can I possibly ignore it without avoiding it? But my feelings definitely depends on who I encounter. If someone looks sad or worried or anything I don't care, I just feel like whatever I can do for them is helping them, but people without excuse.. I want them to know what they are doing wrong,...
>>713144177
>nice dubs
I politely disagree. Nationalism is real in the Diet, maybe not Edo jikan, but definitely Meiji militarism
>>713130222
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4gfBlEsoNE
>>713144005
When you say fire, do you mean an actual combustion reaction? Like an actual exothermic oxidation reaction? Setting graphite on fire is damn near impossible, and keeping it burning is even more difficult. It requires a huge amount of heat.
However, I've wondered if the graphite was being heated by the reactions & decay to the point where it could burn and stay burning, not because of heat produced by combustion, but because it was kept hot by the radiation. I've also wondered whether or not water was involved. Steam running over very hot graphite will disassociate into hydrogen and oxygen, then recombine (burn) almost immediately. This also requires a large amount of input heat, but that would be present from the radioactive material... still, there was a fair bit of controversy over whether or not the graphite truly burned.
>>713144724
yeah no fallout 3, more like stalker, the movie...that motherfucker saw the future
>>713130222
Listen to this:
http://www.letssingit.com/pete-and-wayne-lyrics-the-rectum-of-ella-fitzgerald-hr83cpj
And you will never think about the ship again.
>>713144320
I think with many people their own needs and objectives take priority over common sense and dealing with other people around them,they don't learn, they just think you're a dick for calling them out. living in high density populations is a relatively new thing, most people are dumb shits.
>>713146024
this /b/rother speaks truth
>>713143451
>thought process.
they don't think about it, they just do it
>>713130222
>What fascinates you, b?
Varies a lot, but
> Chiropractic
I love to watch the chiro youtube vids and hear backs pop.
Take away the quackery and it makes a lot of sense. I wish the medical sciences would make a science of it instead of leaving a useful modality to quacks.
> Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu
Hard to explain how putting on a pair of Japanese pajamas and rolling around on the ground with another guy can become an obsession, but it's a great hobby that I'm so glad I found and do.
I think a lot about robots and precision movement, especially CNC.
>>713146024
I am pretty sure us humans should live close to each other, but not like stacked into tiny apartments
Think about philosophy and death a lot
not like I'm scared of death, i'm not at all, but it's more of the mystery of what happens after.
>>713138407
Pretty sure that was sarcasm...
Sauce - im a brit
>>713139493
You live in a museum
>>713146774
Are you an engineer or have considered becoming one?
>>713147471
in villages! where you know most of your village and they know you. that's how it was for millenia.
>>713130222
checked
>what fascinates you, b?
Lots of stuff, but particularly American's attitude towards Iran. Allow me to explain.
After WWII Iran started slowly growing a little bit of democracy. They had a parliament and prime minister with legal authority strong enough to keep the Shah (read "king") in check and actually provide the people with decent representation. The major resource Iran had (an still does, of course) was oil, but it was all owned by the Anglo Persian Oil Company, and later the Anglo-Iranian Oil Comapny, AIOC (current day British Petroleum), aka. England. Mohammed Mossadegh, the Iranian prime minister at the time (and 1953 Time man of the year) was a huge driving force in nationalizing the oil company because the Iranian oil should belong to the Iranian people, and the circumstances of the AIOC's operation were typical for a western-held interest in the developing world; the working conditions were atrocious and the Iranian people didn't even benefit from their own oil. Mossadegh was essentially the country's leader, as he tried to make big reforms to benefit his citizens. Because of his huge influence, as well as some other factors with the spread of communism in countries north of Iran and some religious tension between parliament (rapidly modernizing and relatively progressive(for the time)) and the religious nobles, the Shah was worried about losing the rest of his power. Now, the father of the Shah in 1953 was responsible for creating the agreement between the British AIOC and Iran. He and his son, the Shah in '53, benefited greatly from the deal, but as states before, the people, who now had power through representation, didn't.
>Continued
>>713130222
Come on OP, you had one job.
>https://youtube.com/watch?v=9vST6hVRj2A
>>713148076
I am considering going into mechanical engineering, yes. I do some machining as a hobby.
>>713136551
What they saw was cosmic radiation being released from the reactor that induced light flashes in the eyeballs of those nearby. The same phenomenon was recorded by Apollo astronauts and studied by them during the Apollo program. They saw these lights even with their eyes closed and even back on earth for an extended period of time. Check it out man
>>713148132
yeah just like "cities" user to look like. small somewhat dense and surrounded by farmland.
My obsession? The Franklin Expedition of 1845.
John Franklin was an experienced ships captain, and the former Governor of Tasmania.
He had been at Trafalger with nelson, and had led two expeditions to the Canadian Arctic before.
The two ships- the Erebus and Terror (Terror was one of the ships that shelled Ft McHenry in the Star Spangled Banner) try to navigate the northwest passage. They winter up at Beechy Island, 3 crewmembers die. The ice thaws and they head down Victoria Strait....and get stuck in the ice.
They wait almost two years before abandoning their ships. They have to walk for three days to reach the shore of King William Island.
They try to walk 900 miles to the closest civilization, a Hudson's Bay Co. store on the west side of Hudson's bay. The sailors put everything they wanted into a 20-foot oak ships boat, and placed it on a pair of runners, and drug the boat along the shore.
None of them make it. The ships sink and less than half the remains of the 130 men have been found.
Now in 2014 and they find Erebus, then Terror in 2016. But the ships are nowhere near where they were abandoned. So the crew tried to walk back to their ships, re-boarded them and sailed south to the SW coast of King William Island.
Oh yeah, they ate their dead. It was a death march to the south. men dropped as they walked, and some were found that way. They say men were still walking in 1851, so six years after they left England.
The Tomb at the Boat Place. You can see the runners from that boat today on the shore.
The desk the president of the US sits at is made from the Resolute- a ship sent to the arctic to find the Franklin Expedition, and abandoned to the ice as well.
>>713130222
I really like street cars and light rail
How this fucked up cult still exists.
>>713139877
M-more...?
>>713130222
>trips
Tbh I can't stop thinking about playing Fallout New Vegas, but my lazy ass doesn't want to start up the laptop
>>713148175
>continued
When Mossadegh threatened to nationalize the oil supply Britain freaked out and asked the US for help. During the last few months of the Truman administration, they got nowhere, as Truman didn't want to interfere in foreign business in that way (>inb4 he dropped the bomb, yes i know but covertly overthrowing a government was different), but as soon as the administration switched over to Eisenhower, the CIA headed an operation to overthrow the democracy in Iran and hand full power back to the Shah. Teddy Roosevelt's son (or maybe great-nephew i can't remember exactly) was the CIA agent who orchestrated the whole thing. Over a period of months on years, the US government sent millions of dollars to Iran's religious leaders, paying them to stir up concern over the spread of communism in the north and to host protests where people would paint Mossadegh as a communist. (he wasn't. he was educated in France and believed in democracy: this was evidenced because he never utilized the police, of which he had power as PM to silence newspapers funded by the CIA and break up the assembly of the people). Eventually the Shah got personally involved and they arrested Mossadegh for treason (or something like that) and put him under house arrest. They got away with it because of the demonstrations funded by US taxpayers. There was some other more detailed stuff going on I can't remember rn but this shit was interesting. Anyway, then the Shah has full power again and Britain and the US have their oil to fight communism in Korea.
>continued
>>713148691
cool story
>>713148839
>>713148972
there are thought about life, death and society in this thread. and then there's street cars
>>713149194
let the man have his trains
>>713130222
how big my ass can stretch before causing permanent changes
>>713149194
I've ridden almost every street car line from end to end in Toronto
>>713149125
>continued
The Shah is a dictator who is so paranoid he does a little version of what Stalin did with his night raids to oust potential betrayers. People are miserable and still have to put up with the AIOC and are basically used as slaves for British oil. The religious class is really powerful and overthrow the Shah in the Islamic Revolution of 1979. Except now the people hate the US and Britain for sticking them with the Shah and making their lives miserable for 2 generations. They see us as harm doers with nothing but ill intent towards anyone outside of our borders. And the worst part is, now the rulers of Iran are religious fanatics who help fund the people killing us, but in the west we still don't get that we're kind of responsible for creating the scenario instead of just letting some developing country keep their democracy at the cost of nothing more than an inconvenience to the west.
WTF
>>713149360
I had my mouse hovered over the op link >>713130222 (OP)
and thought the pic went with your post. thinking gee that's ambitious.
>>713149376
Dog music and what it would sound like
>>713148175
It's fairly obvious that US foreign policy since WW2 has been the security of Europe. That includes access to energy from Iran then and why the bullshit in Syria now. Basically the US supports a pipeline across Syria in order to reduce Russian capacity for interrupting energy supplies to Europe. Assad, at the prompting of his Russian masters, says No. That means he has to go and so a revolution was spurred on by the US. Icing on the cake was the eventual denial of an Eastern Med base for the Russian Navy that threatens sea lines of communication between Europe and the Middle East. It all went to shit when the Syrian rebels couldn't make a knockout punch so here we are. Iran in the 50's was just more of the same shit.
>>713149905
lots of borking
>>713147707
Pretty sure he isn't being sarcastic
Source: I'm a Londoner.
>>713149905
A lot of lyrics about bitches
>>713150041
It just blows my mind that we keep doing this shit, man.
Thanks for the (You), i was getting worried i was wasting my time on a salvadorian pepper grinder forum
how the Syrian refugee crisis is going to be handled here in Canada
lots of us in Alberta including me are completely against it and think we should ship them all back but Trudeau seems to love refugees and wants to make Canada some Islam nation. makes me want to puke that we have those born on our soil starving while hes worried about helping some sand people that cant fight Isis but can fight our police plenty good
im waiting for riots and shit lol
>>713151000
25,000 people isn't a lot. Albertan hicks are worse than Northern Ontario. At least people in Northern Ontario know they're irrelevant hicks, people in Alberta actually think they have purpose.
>>713151339
we do, we help the east with equalization payments. Alberta is the heart of Canada, if we separated from the East you'd be fucked. its funny most of my friends are from Ontario and they moved here to find work
and its far more than 25,000 refugees. some stores here have food with purely Islamic labels to cater to them
>>713151665
>some stores here have food with purely Islamic labels to cater to them
Gentrified areas in all major cities do this. There are more somoli and east african muslims in Toronto then there are Syrians. Nobody wants to move to Aldirta when oil is <$50 anyway.
>>713131925
People do Evil things because they convince themselves that "reality" isn't.
I mean the extent of evil shit done in video games and on line is beyond shocking.
The question is though.
Does our virtual evil reduce our actual action being evil?
I mean I don't and would not for any reason rape anyone in reality but I find rape fantasy thrilling.
>>713150630
>It just blows my mind that we keep doing this shit, man.
Well, it's a continual jockeying for dominance between countries and regions and just like war, it only takes one to cause problem. Right now it's Russia trying to strongarm Europe through it's energy supplies. This drags the US in because lolallies and intertwined economies. China is being a problem in SE Asia but going the more direct military route since they don't really have any other jugular hold on anybody like Russia does on Europe. US interests are threatened here too but not quite as urgently as Europe
tl;dr it's just the game of nations and the powerful. It'll keep going until there aren't people anymore.
>Thanks for the (You)
Sure, no problemo
Trips holy shit
>>713140955
See this. Please please please see this
>>713142627
>>713130222
Lol
>>713143451
lobster obsessive here too, i'm interested in how large they can grow.
>>713143451
Lobster fisherman here. I can help you with some questions?
>>713143207
And fuckin furthermore, how does gravity?
>>713130222
The Edmund Fitzgerald was done in by a rogue wave (as well as being overloaded). Crew were innocent, but were scapegoated to prevent lawsuits to the owners & insurers.
There was an excellent episode of "Dive Detectives" that covered it thoroughly. Well worth watching (free on Amazon, iirc), and as someone who's been fascinated by the Fitzgerald it certainly convinced me.
*cues Gordon Lightfoot*
>>713144459
Maybe it's just all a loop started by a different plane or dimension or whatever. Universe will eventually just be black holes and once all the black holes become one it times out and big bangs.
>>713154606
it's all done with magents
>>713154076
>>713142627
>>713153342
I can't right now. Circumstance is what got me here. I plan on going to live near her sometime next year, as soon as I can. But for right now I just can't.
Thanks for caring anons.
>>713130709
Ferinogate.
I'm wondering how that ended.
>>713144700
Do we know how electrical signals become thoughts? I know the brain processes data in 26 different ways instead of 1s and 0s, but what is the media player?
The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down
Of the big lake they called 'gitche gumee'
The lake, it is said, never gives up her dead
When the skies of November turn gloomy
With a load of iron ore twenty-six thousand tons more
Than the Edmund Fitzgerald weighed empty
That good ship and crew was a bone to be chewed
When the gales of November came early
>>713154970
yeah that's what I think too, but what happened before the initial bang. maybe expecting there to be an initial one is just a human concept, possibly we just don't understand that we don't understand.
>>713154970
>Universe will eventually just be black holes
Depending on the rate of acceleration of the universe, and if proton decay exists (or is just very slow), this could occur in 10^40 years or so, at least until they all evaporate into subatomic matter, as black holes likely do not last forever
>>713154423
amazing what lobsters can do nowadays
>>713146774
My employer's head office has a welding robot and multimillion dollar cnc mill/drill machines. There's one that operates completely on magnetic rails, it's fuckin amazing it can drill square holes
>>713130222
Just looked at pics from the shore of the UP overlooking the water. Was haunting being there, especially at night.
>>713155749
Yeh man. Did you know they used to be a pest and used as dog food or for niggers in prison because they were so bountiful.
Now people pay through the nose for them. Great work from the lobsters reinventing themselves like they, they really have gone from strength to strength these past couple hundred years.
>>713130222
She got hit by the three sisters of the lake during a huge storm. Actually got to go see the museum at White fish point and see the bell. Definitely worth going. Also got to touch the light on the lighthouse. ( Pic related: the beach from the top of the lighthouse)
>>713148691
Man I remember when they found the terror and I first read that story. Chilling tale.
>>713130222
Good thread OP
>>713151000
Nice trips bro you're on fire.
Alberta is miserable wasteland, and I live in fucking manitoba in December
FYI that's a fort mac burn
>>713151867
Good and evil is made up perspective bullshit. You can find a girl that is into rape fantasy they definitely exist, and if not just be honest and careful wit an escort. There's also evidence that people who vent their anger and frustration are more prone to later violent thoughts and behaviour. Most Nazis believed they were doing the right thing, and some were just insane. Is it evil if you're incapable of knowing better? Or is it just foolishly unchecked power?
>>713149376
wind up in any alternate dimensions?
>>713157351
No brother I wish it was that simple.
But it isn't amusing is your assumption of first seeing al things as shades of gray.
Here let me spell it out for you.
Is your little brother available for some date rape?
How's your perspective now?
>>713139877
Cool facts.
>>713157497
no, but I got to this weird china town one time
>>713157725
It's not evil that you feel like you want to rape a little boy; it's bad brain chemistry and damage. A large percentage of pedophiles were themselves victims of sexual abuse. If we could properly understand how to affect permanent change to human behaviour without any collateral damage there would be no pedophilia or schizophrenia
What is really happening with my nigga Kanye?
>>713131392
7>131313>92
Sit down and shut up
>>713144320
Cambodia, Land of 10,000 lakes.
I like vintage photos
>>713148691
Franklin Expedition is one of the greatest mysteries. It was super high-tech like the equal of a moon or mars mission just vanishing.
how did the beams from the world trade center melt, when they said jet fuel can['t melt it. i went to a museum today and saw a beam from the world trade center.
The Columbine massacre.
I think it was a tragedy and a terrible thing to do, but I can't help thinking that that would be the funnest, most exhilarating way to go out. Like, if I determined that I was going to for sure commit suicide, that's how I would do it: recreating a scenario from my favourite video game and acting like a badass for two hours before killing myself.
It's absolutely reprehensible, but I can't help feeling like that is one of the coolest things anyone's ever done.
>>713130222
What I would do if I woke up tomorrow and I was 5 again. Do I know enough about history to change it? Do I bother? Do I just run away from home and tell people I'm really 35 and become a child actor?
>>713130222
Whats the meaning of Stonehenge?
>>713159659
Yeah.
You and I will never interact beyond this thread, but I want you to know I approve of what you've done.
We'll all be dead soon enough.
>>713130222
>was it an inside job?
ehh
>>713159686
It's an astrological tool. The big gaps are aligned with the solstices, but you could use the rest of the stones to estimate the positions of the constellations and shit.
>>713159686
Rock Around The Clock
>>713159686
>>713160220
I need to apologize. What I wrote is the PURPOSE of Stonehenge. Meaning is something that only exists as an element of a deliberate effort to communicate. As such, Stonehenge doesn't really have a meaning in the same reason that a chair or a wrench don't have a 'meaning,' they only have a purpose.
Also, re: >>713160343, I am currently drunk.
>>713130222
>Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald. Was it an inside job?
I seem to remember there was someone named Gordon Lightfoot involved. With a name like that he's gotta be guilty.
>>713151000
trips of apathy and selfishness
>>713130222
Maybe the ship should simply have stayed in port, given the weather and sea conditions?
>>713161109
>sea conditions
do you call it sea conditions even though it's on a lake?
>>713136551
Eyewitness testimony in rapidly evolving complex situations is notoriously worthless. So one possibility that would have to be considered is tat they saw nothing.
>>713139493
Been there, done that.
>>713138042
Bottoming out and tearing a big fucking hole in your hull is only going to happen in relatively shallow water.
>>713132944
Does anyone know where the love of God goes when the waves turn the minutes to hours?
>>713161109
The captain wanted to, but the ship's owners refused to allow him to.
Owners of cargo vessels view workers in the same way ownership does everywhere else - as an unwanted, and replaceable, expense.
>>713138042
Because the Fitzgerald was such a large ship almost the entirety of Lake Superior is shallower than the Big Fitz was long.
bump...ing the bottom of lake superior
>>713130222
YO NO SOY MARINERO
YO NO SOY MARINERO
SOY CAPITAN
SOY CAPITAN
SOY CAPITAN
>>713151665
That's not actually how equalization payments work, you may wanna read up.
http://www.cbc.ca/radio/the180/the-rise-of-political-assholes-environmental-law-is-a-tyranny-of-small-decisions-and-spanking-needs-to-end-1.3864919/equalization-doesn-t-work-the-way-you-think-it-does-1.3868845
>>713136551
The spirit of the Lord
>>713164063
this
>>713130222
>what do you want:
NUKE MECCA
>when do you want it:
YESTERDAY
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Nixxon fucked up everything
>>713164700
including your grandmother
>>713161948
wat?
The idea of sinking scares me. I think I'd rather crash in an airplane or fall in a volcano.
My hair; why is it so ugh. I can only style it when I wash it, and while I don't have ridiculously long hair and could definitely clean it every night, fuck that mess. I'm too lazy. But then I get all anxious whenever it's not clean and it looks like shit because I can't style it because it'll look even worse.
>>713149771
The Saudi Salafist Wahabis are as vicious and they are technically US allies.
Saudi oil and US ties to Riyadh ensure eventual war with Iran.
>>713131392
>>713131313 miss
if aliens don't exist. then how do we know what they look like?
>>713165846
>>713159223
Jet fuel happily melts jet engine superalloy hot sections if the blanket of cooling air is suitably disturbed. Been there, borescoped that.
Metal deforms considerably before reaching "molten" state. If you get a chance to use a cutting torch you can watch it in rapid action.
>>713139493
>k
Hey, I have a puzzle with that image on it. 500 piece, or 1000 piece, I'm not sure...
>>713165099
tats why mr su angryuuh
>>713156165
what's the three sisters of the lake? I've heard that term, but can't remember the meaning
>>713166322
How is it that pools of molten steel remained molten, and in an air-free environment, for weeks after 9/11/01? THERMITE.
>>713130222
What comes next for Europe, and how dangerous Islam is.
>>713166434
Three big waves that pile on in quick succession.
>>713165846
stop using shampoo, makes hair way easier to style and saves money
>>713150478
I keked, good one.
>>713166656
ah, ok, thanks. Is it a phenomenon unique to Superior and the Great Lakes, or more common than on the open ocean?
>>713132065
>>713132719
Samefag
>>713166393
fair point. sorry.
>>713136551
Thermite...?
DUNDUN DUUUN
For me it's the Titanic and the World Trade Center. I think both were some of the most beautiful things built by man, and they both had shocking demises that were clear to happen in hindsight once you evaluate their designs.
>>713141448
Rest assured, it wasn't. I've heard those theories and they don't work.
Olympic and Titanic were not identical ships, and to disguise one as the other would have taken a lot of time, money, and resources. The most notable of which would have been a rebuilding of the superstructure. There would have been documents and witnesses to it.
Number Stations...
Shit is scary.
Deadmen's switches, spy networks and communications.
>>713166322
It doesn't have to melt shit...just get hot enough to destroy the heat treatment.
>>713164569
http://niceme.me
Are people really so stupid???
Why do so many people let their emotions take charge?? I really do loathe people. 99% of people have absolutely no idea whats going on outside their little world bubble. So many of us don't even try. They complain about the state of the world, yet continue to consume at a ridiculous rate. They complain about their lot in life, but make no effort to change, no effort to try and enlighten themselves or broaden their perceptions to increase their chances of happiness.
So many people are content with being just hairs breath away from blowing their brains out. And why? Why do people settle in life so easily, instead of getting what they really want? Is the human psyche at odds with the human instinct? Is it because our society (supposedly) rewards mediocrity? Why do so many people take so much shit for so long?
But the really sad thing, most have the ability to break free and smell the roses. They have the ability to become truly self aware and start improving their lives. It frustrates me and makes me so angry that people allow themselves to suffer needlessly, and for what?
Help me understand.
>>713161948
No. But all that remains is the faces and the names of the wives and the sons and the daughters
>>713130222
nice trips. Sometimes I think about the fact it took several minutes for the astronauts in the Challenger shuttle to fall to earth, and that they were alive while that happened. What must have been going through their heads on that long fall...
>>713130222
Is it coincidence that I can't stop jerking off to pictures of Gordon Lightfoot?
>>713139877
what sinking was that? i want to look it up.
Also looks like your family had you set for life
>>713167463
most people never move outside of where they were born, or like 50 miles of it. the bubbles you talk about are self imposed for comfort. tons of people never travel or expose themselves to other countries or cultures.
>>713131925
the fact that you already know what you would do if it happened means you relate to it more than most
I've read some theories saying that Yuri Gagarin was actually the first human being to go to space but actually the first one to go up there, survive and coming back...
Apparently the Soviet Union had sent a bunch of other manned missions to space but most of them failed and they covered it up, however there is some evidence of 'missing' cosmonauts, some paper slip-ups, altered photographs and those italian brothers that allegedly recorded some radio conversations of those lost missions (these are fake apparently but still bone-chilling)
Seismology, specifically the events happening around Japan. I'm a geoscientist by trade but have always been interested in seismology. Since Fukushima I became obsessed with tracking how all the seismic events around world work together. I honestly just settled on Japan as my focus because it releases the most reliable and frequent data. USGS a shit.
>>713167973
Its probably not true mate, they sent a lot of animals before they tried humans.
>>713142176
you want to feel superior and "higher class" than these people. Maybe the guy had a legit reason to fight the guard
>>713139877
Pretty much what happened to the Fitzgerald. Overly long and also overloaded (both to make the company more money), impossibly high seas, rogue wave took her and and she broke in two.
wired crossover's like Titanfall/Starwars clone wars
idk why just seems cool to me
I soend a lot of time thinking about how I'm nearly 30 and I have no future.
>>713147471
it's the fact that each person has their own shower and bed and money locked behind a door, instead of sharing these things
>>713168351
yep, Laika, Bars and Lisichka, Pchyolka and Mushka, Belka and Strelka, however not all of them came back alive, and remember, a dead animal isn't that impressive as a cosmonaut. The Soviet Union was also highly secretive so if they actually lost any person up there, we probably will never know for sure.
>>713168731
i spend a lot of time thinking about how i'm already 20 and i can't for the life of me imagine what it would be like to be 30, or even 25. I just don't know what life's gonna be like being that old
>>713167973
That is entirely possible. I wouldn't be surprised at all.
I say that the US goverment is hiding big things from us, but I wouldn't go as far as alien technology. Also, aliens do exist.
>>713168932
My point being, they sent animals before humans to test the effects space would have on an organic being. They even sent monkeys before humans. Scores of men have died in space or trying to get there, but it is extremely hard to cover up a space accident.
>>713169055
what could they be hiding?
>>713168993
I've spent most of my 20's drunk or on drugs, so it's all a bit of a blur. Honestly feels like the last 5 years havent even happened.
>>713167687
>aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
this, more or less, then burned into a crisp
How i will become a millionaire
Just the fact that gravity is not pulling you from below, it's pushing your from above. This was figured out by Einstein. It makes sense, the bigger the planet the larger the expansion of the force the harder it pushes back. But the still unanswered question what is that force.
>>713168932
They didn't cover up losing Komarov so I'm hesitant to think they would cover up others.
Had they launched human prior to Gagarin, and they died/ were lost, I would expect them to announce it but then spin it as the crew being a hero(es) that died doing their duty to the USSR and to humanity.
>>713168993
It will be the same as you feel now. Just enjoy the present - right here right now -, because before you know it, you'll be 25, then 30. And wonder where the hell the time went.
>>713168525
It doesn't help that it was an overly long and overglorified barge.
Had the Fitz been built to the same standard as oceangoing cargo ships, it would have survived. Unfortunately, it was built cheaply (its holds had no watertight separating bulkheads, FFS) and overloaded.
>>713131925
>How can people do the things they do?
they do it for one ore more of these reasons:
>lulz
>money
>it's their fetish
>>713132220
the deep web
Brexit and the Trump victory. The biggest hit on the overlords in recent memory. Is it going to go further?
>>713169679
how further can it go?
PC being the new word for racest?
The Black Knight Satellite and The Exegesis of Philip K. Dick and are they connected?
And Roger Penrose's theory that time is just a mental construct
Are we here and real in the here and now, or is it really still 50 AD when time stopped?
>>713169600
No.
>>713167973
were the recorded radio conversations of Komarov, or was that another cosmonaut?
>>713169679
Yes. Right wing anti-globalists are set to be elected throughout Europe.
>>713169381
Yes. As usual, it was all about the money.
Shameful how the crew was blamed to protect the carrier(s).
>>713169539
> fetish is the lulz and they do it for money
>>713147471
>humans should live close to each other
Don't count me in or that.
I like living in rural Kansas
>>713169286
Komarov incident sucked. Would hate to be him, knowing his ship was falling apart around him, and end up like that.
>>713170354
Yeah, it's one of the darkest things I've heard in a long time. Perhaps the only darker and haunting were the phonecalls/ FDNY radio traffic on 9/11.
The Voynich Manuscript. Who did it come from, and what does it mean?
>>713170496
I didn't hear the FDNY radio traffic. Did see the documentary 9/11, filmed inside the north tower at the FDNY command station.
>>713170721
I've seen that one too. One of the best documentaries I've seen about any subject.
Here's the taps. It's long and I listened to them on the anniversary, but you can skip around.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt29IKoNItA
It's amazing how calm they all are. Even when the second plane hits.
One part I remember is when the first tower collapses. The ground units report it is "Partial collapse, part of the top came off" but then you immediately hear those watching from the harbor reporting "Major and total collapse"
You can also hear all the radios keying off indicating people trying to make transmissions.
if matter cant be created or destroyed then how is the universe ever expanding?
any sciencefags know?
>>713171087
i want to know how can matter have an origin
>>713169142
I don't know. I'm just a retarded /b browser
>>713141900
Checked
>>713169133
>>713169286
Agreed, I'm sort of skeptical too, but they launched those animals to prove that humans could go up there, the challenger and columbia space shuttles fucked up thanks to mistakes, same could have happen.
Now I'm not a conspiracy idiot, I'm not a blind follower of this theory, but still, thinking about the possibility of this happening to some brave soul gives me the creeps
>>713169932
Apparently there are 9 recordings of these 'lost' cosmonauts, apparently fake but still haunting.
This one, from those italian brothers, apparently fake but still can send chills down your spine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Sgc1I9sjfc
>>713170354
Komarov is a Hero for mankind.
Apparently some newspapers and radio stations got his transmission when he was in the re-entry phase, said Komarov died crying in rage.
If I were him I would also be cursing all those fuckers that messed up and now got me falling down to crash
>>713171063
Yeah, I bought it last year, and though cost $27 used, was worth it (it's out of print). I've seen teachers use all sorts of documentaries about 9/11, but if I were to teach anyone about that day, I'd make that documentary part of required viewing. They've got the only footage of the first plane hitting, and only footage from within either tower that day. Primary sources.
Why did they bring down wtc 7? Was there supposed to be a fourth plane, why'd they do it even without the shitty cover they had for the other towers? Will the truth ever come out?
I'm gonna die and in 100 years no one will know i ever existed. Yet i still move on in this self centered, existential nightmare, hoping one day i will be greeted by the sweet embrace of death, so that all my troubles will matter no longer
>>713171272
Yeah I've read about people hearing transmissions of Komarov crying in rage. Completely agree would be pissed too.
>>713171640
It was on fire and hit with a shit load of rubble. Take you conspiracy hat off.
>>713130222
>over fill ship with iron ore
>surprised when it splits in half and sinks
>>713171814
it wasn't overfilled
>>713132944
I've been sailing in Lake Superior for fifteen years, and weather can turn sour faster than you could possibly fucking believe, its incredible. One second its bluebird skies and you're sailing on glass, next you're staring down a black cloud and riding 5, 6 foot swells
>>713171591
I watched it a few times. Once as a kid, since my father was down there that day, and most recently in one of my Fire Science classes a few years ago.
We were using it to see and evaluate the response. Sad to think that there really was nothing they could do, even under the best circumstances.
Since the FDNY didn't have a helicopter up then, they had no idea how bad the buildings were damaged. But the NYPD had a few choppers up and they radioed minutes before the collapse that the structure was getting ready to fail. They radioed a message to evacuate all officers from the South Tower and surrounding area. Firefighters never got this message.
>>713166684
This guy knows what's up
>>713171643
Or you know, american history
>>713172131
Sucks. I hadn't heard that about the firefighters never getting the message. I did learn, though, from watching that documentary that by the time they reached the floors on fire, it collapsed. Not enough time to do anything at all.
>>713140955
Go be with your family, anon.
>>713172398
They knew even then that they weren't going to be able to put the fires out. The standpipes were severed so they weren't going to get water and the sprinkler systems were destroyed.
Their best hopes were to get up and clear paths to those trapped. The thought was that the fires would burn out eventually or become weak enough to fight with what little water they would get.
>>713172698
good point. I heard about that in some documentaries too, but had forgotten about it.
>>713171790
Office desk fires and rubble wouldn't cause free fall collapse, man. Don't you think a building housing fucking secret service, bank- and insurance company offices would be equipped to deal with fires anyway? Where did they even come from?
We are each one person...
That is, a collection of countless living things working in unison to sustain a greater higher consciousness that has, in an effort to sustain its lifeline and master it's environment, evolved intelligence within this higher consciousness somehow with chemicals and electricity to the point that it has "discovered" separately the countless living things that make it whole...
And that higher consciousness typically completely doesn't give a shit about what's actually happening
>>713148691
>The desk the president of the US sits at is made from the Resolute- a ship sent to the arctic to find the Franklin Expedition
Iloooooominati
>>713173465
So you think they rigged a totally unimportant building to blow? Why? Most people dont even remember or care that 7 came down.
>>713173465
WTC 7 bore a lot of the brunt from WTC 1's collapse. . By that point all water mains were destroyed and the FDNY wasn't concerned with fighting fires in the (By that point) abandoned WTC 7.
Sustaining significant structural damage, having generators that caught fire, no water, and burning for hours.
Plus it didn't collapse how some think it did. It wasn't straight down or all at once. The inside collapsed and then the exterior failed a few seconds after. You can see the penthouse fall as the roof caves in as the collapse starts.
>>713173921
This is complete bullshit
>>713166684
ill be a greaseball if i dont
>>713174046
How so?
>>713174046
Disprove it then
>protip: not the guy you responded to
>>713132944
I took some flight lessons. Generally communication is the last thing you worry about during an emergency unless you need to make your position known to rescuers. In class we learned your priorities were to "aviate, navigate, then communicate"
Usually when you have an emergency you are so focused on corrective actions that you dont have time to be nervous, and revert back to training on instinct, so you might sound pretty monotone even if you're in a ship going down.
I think that Malaysian plane probably had a fire and the crew were too busy to communicate the fact, were able to turn back, but were quickly killed by smoke. Just my theory, I'm not an expert on anything.
>>713174046
Yes, but bullshit is what they get paid to post.
Spooky all the ways the coverup continues 15 years later.
Committing suicide, by slitting my own throat. Waking up in the game "Fatal Labyrinth", armed with the knife I killed myself with. Being resurrected as a Spirit Detective and given a power-up after clearing the labyrinth. Learning that the Powers That Be have legitimately opened the floodgates of Hell, causing a global demon infestation. And now it's my job to kill the demons and close the gate.
>>713142511
>Never heard of this. Go to Wikipedia.
>Article reads like an SCP entry.
It's fun stories, but people actually fall for this shit?
>>713173867
I think they rigged all of them, what I'm wondering is why they pulled wtc7 with no cover at all.
>>713173921
Yeah, they send down the elevator shafts first, because they're part of what keeps the core standing.
https://youtu.be/JnLcUxV1dPo
Can you see any kind of significant damage in these clips? The building falls straight down into itself like the others. Fire or rubble doesn't cause this.
>>713175671
>what I'm wondering is why they pulled wtc7 with no cover at all.
Exactly. There is NO reason to do it. Because they didnt do it.
CNC
>>713175794
>They didn't do it because there is no reason to do it because they didn't do it because there is no reason to do it
Could you at least try, kid?
>>713176414
Are you fucking dense? You're trying to find a reason why 'they' would bring down an insignificant building just so it fits into your conspiracy. Sometimes the simplest answer is the correct one.
>>713175794
They pulled it for money, it's not their motives i'm questioning
>>713175671
4 buildings, 4 shiny distractions (one of which crashed in PA, that was the flying craft meant for WTC 7).
In a crime like 9/11 the most important thing of all is *destruction of evidence that would reveal the truth*. So pulling WTC 7 without cover was still far better than leaving it standing - because if WTC 7 were inspected it would reveal how the entire event was a false flag, one that would benefit (or if found out, destroy) the elites who control the nation-states who committed it.
>>713176742
All the insurance money went back into rebuilding cost, so that's not a motive.
>>713176742
>>713176965
There is no evidence to support this. I'm not saying this as some paid shill.
It makes no sense because it would have cost a lot more money and resulted in no profit in the end. Plus why the WTC?
Islamic Extremists had a reason to target it, some government conspiracy would not.
>>713169326
but i'll be so old and irrelevant. Nobody likes anyone over 22. That's it. That's when your relevancy and interest disappears
>>713176965
>(one of which crashed in PA, that was the flying craft meant for WTC 7
What? That's ridiculous. Do you know small 7 was compared to the towers?
>>713177224
Controlling *all the money in the world* isn't enough of a motive?
>>713177637
So this all powerful shadowy group, that can orchestrate the biggest terrorist attack in history and cover it up, did it so they could 'control' money?
>>713130222
>Was it an inside job?
Yes. Halo controlling weather. In the '70s. With super-duper computers.
>>713177380
52 stories, or about 700 feet - taller than the Washington Monument and the Gateway Arch, about the height of the Golden Gate Bridge. Easily large enough to hit with a shiny thing.
The comparison with the other towers is irrelevant to logic (though not to disinfo).
>>713177380
Nevermind the height, why would you destroy a building that no one gives a shit about when the Empire State building was right there.
>>713178525
>though not to disinfo
Oh no. You got me. I'm a paid shill.
>>713177951
They needed a reason to go to war so they could control the oil.
With a military budget at 600 billions, like 60% of your total yearly spendings overall, i'm pretty sure there are a couple of guys interested in keeping this going.
why didnt he stop at 9 people instead of going full breivik and kill every black person in charleston
>>713171087
energy can be converted into matter?
>>713179034
Yeah, and now the entire middle east is totally in our back pocket and we control all the oil, right? Bit of a shitty plan.
>>713178648
Our head south and take a crack at the White House. So many better targets than WTC 7.
>>713131925
How old is your little sister?
