hey guys I need some help on improving my guitar sound... what should I buy? a new amp, new pedals, multieffect or a new guitar? I have a peavey vypyr 75w, this boss ds-2 pedal and a ibanez RG-350DX. what should I buy?
>>712243402
a life
>>712243402
Boss Delay DD-3
it's a fucking good pedal
>>712244392
here's a pic btw
>>712243402
What kind of sound are you going for? Genre? It all depends.
>>712243402
Learn some fucking music theory and stop
spending your money on useless pedals that you\
can emulate for free on FL studio you fuckwit.
>>712244746
>You can emulate for free on FL studio
Yeah but not live
>>712243402
Ditch the vyper and get a peavey ValveKing
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Used/Peavey/Valve-King-1x12-Tube-Guitar-Combo-Amp-112507480.gc?cntry=us&source=4WWRWXGP&gclid=CJbyiZ2qtNACFVhMDQodwxIKrg&kwid=productads-adid^57619015002-device^c-plaid^143202143082-sku^112507480@ADL4GC-adType^PLA
Can find some good used deals and a tube amp is going to be the biggest improvement to your tone
>>712243402
Fuck pedals if you really want a sound change your preamp and amp have everything to do with the sound in an electric. ALL tonewood is bullshit and most pedals are just effects or will add to the butt mudd if your amp sucks. PLEASE tell me you don't own line6 shit either.
Buy excellent pickups appropriate to your style and buy a really good amp, there's no point to anything else.
>>712243402
a personal favorite, works great from my marshall to my shitty vox portable
>>712245028
oops, pic related
>>712244846
You seriously think you can convince me that >you
play events when you ask for gear advice from
this degenerate board?
Pedals are outdated unless you actually do analog recording and mastering like Jack White,
They're mostly just frivolous and for dumbdumbs who don't know how to use presets on a digital effects controller.
Pick up a different instrument and learn how to play and write actual music ya dingus.
>>712245123
>digital effects controller
Never heard of that. Explain?
>>712243402
Get a rack multi effect unit. Holy fuck did that change my life. I had a older one by Roland called the gp100 or something. I had that along with a rack tuner and rack noise gate for shows and did great. Had a shitty peavey xxl with a crate cabinet. Guitar was schecter elite 7
>>712245123
Yeah next time I play a gig I'll just say fuck my mesa and pedalboard and just run everything through FL studio. If you can prove FL reverb sounds better than an MXR or Strymon Big sky pedal I'll shut my mouth
Learn to play notes instead of just strumming you faggot piece of shit
>>712244948
/thread
Aww shit, Bam Margera died.
>>712244630
im playing pop punk and punk rock
>>712244630
some alternative too
>>712244746
first of all,,, FL is a shit I use studio one... AND I don't know how I will use FL studio live... asshole
>>712244855
I was told that the valveking is not that good...
>>712243402
Just get an amp sim then try out a bunch of shit
EQing and technique go a long ways as well. Start with all dials at noon then make start fucking with it.
>>712245515
Do you know how many brands I can name and in what order?
Do you have any idea how many times I've played stairway to heaven at guitarcentre?
>>712245714
>>712245738
Flanger could be neat for certain areas. Definitely a fuzz pedal as well.
>>712245830
Better than a Vypr.
Not sure what your price range is, but there's some good tube amps for the low. Blackstar is another good one, but they go up to about $500. A Peavey Classic 50 is another decent one you can pick up for around $250
>>712245119
i run my bass through that sometimes, it's pretty Boss
>>712244948
pls r8 my setup 先輩
>>712246125
I have around 400$
>>712246230
never thought to do that with a bass, will try next time
>>712246255
My mom bought me the budget metalhead starterkit to cover Nothing Else Matter and sometimes Wonderwall /20
>>712246255
you should find new gear bro... that line6 is not that good and I don't think that anything from behringer could be good
>>712246293
Try this
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Used/Peavey/Classic-50-212-Tube-Guitar-Combo-Amp-112665551.gc
At 50 watts you'd be plenty loud and a 2x12 is a pretty solid setup with your boss distortion and ibanez. I'd check some demos on youtube so you can hear the tone also, but it's really all about you the player plays it.
>>712246401
>>712246460
I bought it myself, I'm 35 after all. Pretty happy with the value I got for about $160 for everything in the pic (including the RG in the back).
I know it's all shit but it's my first set of gear and after 6 months of playing I'm still not at the point where I would know whether I sound like shit because my gear is shit, or because I'm just shit at playing it.
I didn't try Nothing Else Matters, but Seek and Destroy feels really fucking satisfying to play once I got it down.
Any of you anons got any tips on recording bass guitar? That's a thick signal.
>>712243402
Just get an Orange tube amp, push the gain knob.
>>712246945
In that case you should get rid of the multi effect. Just use it to find what you like and buy the real stuff. You'll just need one or two pedals, then make yourself a treat and get a nice 5 or 10w tube amp. It's normal to be shit after 6months, just keep on playing and have fun.
Not using Hughes-Kettner or Mesa.. No wonder this place has gone to shit. Pick up a Duesenberg 49er or Hagstrom Super Swede and start playing some rhythm and blues. The get a DL4 and DD20 with a Silver Spring Reverb and Ross Compressor.
That is all you need.
>>712247118
I'm guessing you have an amp/cabinet already right?
Ideally if you've got a decent interface and preamp, the best way is to get a DI box and record through that. Most amps will have direct outs on the back that will do the trick also. If you want to mix in a mic sound, a shure sm57 would work for picking up all the bass mids you want and it's pretty affordable, but you definitely want to record direct first to save all that low end.
>>712243402
get a 5150 or a dual rectifier
ds-2 is one of the shittier boss pedals, but good god replace that amp.
>>712247587
What do you mean by direct? We want to record live. It's a 4 piece band, including drums, keyboard, guitar and bass. The Bass signal always comes in too strongly.
>>712247439
I'll give it another year or two before I start buying real stuff, but yeah, I'm having endless fucking fun with it and only regret I didn't start 20 years ago.
The PocketPod is shit but less shit than the modeling in that amp and it's good for experimenting. And sometimes I use it as a buffer with just slightly gated clean signal when recording to PC.
It would have been actually amazing if I could plug a controller keyboard directly into it with keys mapped to different presets, but seems like the only way to change the presets remotely is with the absolute horseshit Line6 software on the PC. Shame.
>>712247791
are you just using one mic to record live?
>>712248086
Yeah at the moment. The mic is put up a few inches from the amp and recorded. Also, could you explain what DI box does? I found the following but still can't quite understand what some of the stuff means:
A DI unit is a device typically used in recording studios to connect a high-impedance, line level, unbalanced output signal to a low-impedance, microphone level, balanced input, usually via XLR connector. DIs are frequently used to connect an electric guitar or electric bass to a mixing console's microphone input.
>>712243402
Look at your amp as an instrument... Use guitar volume for distortion.
>>712243402
I don't get why anybody uses real guitars anymore.
You can randomize synths to exactly approximate the sound of a real guitar for a fraction of the cost, and have MUCH better customization.
I mean, I guess I understand that having hardware is a nice feeling, but with software you can duplicate the "hardware" freely and experience much greater creativity.
That said, I shouldn't really complain. Less competition for me.
>>712248414
Exactly approximate? Suuuure.... Nice b8, dude.
>>712248557
Okay bad wording. What I meant was:
Exactly as in sounds exactly like
Approximate as in "like the real thing"
Obviously it's an "approximation," but you're kidding yourself if you think that it can't sound just like a guitar to anybody who's not literally trying to be difficult.
>>712248232
A DI box pretty much gives you the highest quality sound you can get when recording. Whatever you're recording into, it will give you a balanced input, which means less noise than unbalanced inputs (Instrument cables) and since instrument cables are at what's called Instrument level, a DI box will convert it to line level for recording, which sounds better than recording at inst. level into a computer/console
>>712248751
Neat. Thanks they're pretty cheap too. Any particular one you would recommend?
>>712248727
First you say 'randomize'. Then the 'exactly approximate'... From your post it can only be inferred that you don't know much about true synthesis, sound design, or guitars. One can try and make an 'approximation' of pretty much any audible sound with different synthesis techniques and sound design, but it isn't the same as the real thing...there is still this kind of 'uncanny valley' thing happening...'trying to be difficult' has nothing to do with it. Instruments like analog synths and guitars and electromechanical key instruments have something organic, a kind of unique acoustic and or electroacoustic signature about them that can't be truly replicated. Not a purist. Use both hardware and software. They are different.
>>712245451
Yeah, rack mount multi-fx rule.
I've got an ART FXR elite, ART MultiVerb Alpha 2.0 and a surprisingly good considering how cheap I got it Behringer Virtualizer Pro.
>>712248853
Radials are great the JDI is one of the best you can get, but they also make the ProDI for $99 which is still bitchin'.
>>712243402
honestly - get a half decent acoustic. Something that forces you to play well. something that you can experiment with toget better tone, better sounds, better fingering, better clarity. something that you will have to listen to and actually play to make it sound better, not just a box to plug in and make a whole lot of new sounding noise with
>>712249403
I get what you're saying, but I resent that people spend money on non-innovative hardware from the 80s that is basically perfeectly emulatable with software.
Why not help support innovation and the future of music with your money, instead of just throwing all your money to hardware that hasn't evolved, and will never evolve?
It's not a mentality that I understand or have any sympathy for.
>>712249473
Thanks for your help. I appreciate it.
>>712249473
Last thing. What's the difference between passive and active DIs?
>>712249693
Any time
>>712248727
>>712248414
How do you suggest replicating all the endless variables of how the actual act of playing of the guitar affects the sound? Fingering technique, strumming and picking technique, varying levels of palm muting, string sliding noise, strength of hammer-ons and pull-offs, not to mention all the timing and technique imperfections caused by the human factor that make the final sound organic rather than 100% canned?
Good luck not spending half a lifetime accounting for all those different inputs, assuming you even had a synth that could replicate them, instead of just grabbing the instrument that can actually do all this right here and now.
>>712249634
Do you play any instruments at a higher than a beginner level?
>>712249780
Active DI's need a power source. Some will have a spot for a 9v or need phantom power through a mixer/interface. They also have a stronger signal. If your bass needs a 9v, I'd go with a passive. If it doesn't need a battery, get the active one.
stop listening to everyone else and develope your own sound. you can buy a $100 amp with built in effects these days, it's a small one but it's a good practice amp to steer you in the direction you may want to go. work with sound the way you would work with breathing or touching. feel it. then see what happens and then experiment with other guitars and such.
i know i'm late to this thread, but that's how i feel
>>712250065
Simplest response I have the energy to give you: obviously there is room for innovation.
Maybe hardware is okay for now, but only slightly. Besides performance there is no point to learning instruments besides maybe keyboard now. Automating and programming is very minimal effort for the "human" element, and will be no effort soon.
I respect the effort in learning a music instrument in that it shows discipline, but it is not necessary now, and definitely won't be later.
>>712250067
Used to play classical guitar and also piano, but neither is helpful professionally so I don't have the time.
>>712250510
>Besides performance
what else is there?
>>712250309
Thanks again
>>712250611
???
I get that before the vinyl record player you had to have live performers if you wanted to hear a piece, but recorded music is pretty common these days.
What are you getting at??
>>712250655
Course man, happy recording!
>>712243402
Sorry dude, hands make 90% of the sound. It's fun to buy stuff but go for improving yourself. If u got only a small amount of money save it, if u got 1500 usd buy a good guitar. Pedals are good only for effects, not sound. A good amp may help better with distortion, but depends on the genre you play.
>>712250563
Neither is helpful?!??!? This is the mentality responsible for the death of musicianship...
I don't think you do get it...The man machine interface has something in it that digital timecode can't emulate. It is the 'imperfection' and human mental timewarp that translates to something more communicably human that machine alone can pull off. A lot of recordings don't sound as good as they used to for this reason...
It's about transmission of FEELING more than sequence. Sequence is the piece of paper, not the words. You'd get it the second you played one chord on a Les Paul through a JCM, or the second you hit one note on a Model D through some good monitors...If everything is totally easy to emulate why do studios still use studio musicians? I give up.....
>>712250789
how much money do you make selling your records these days, hmmmm?
the days of the millionaire rock star from selling records is over except for a few of the corporate types, and that will end soon. live performance is back and will soon be the only way to make a buck at this, we are over the hump in the bell curve so to speak
>>712250510
>Musicians aren't needed for music anymore.
O.....K.....
![o-HATSUNE-MIKU-LETTERMAN-facebook[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/BwH6knE.jpg "o-HATSUNE-MIKU-LETTERMAN-facebook[1].jpg")
>>712250510
>Automating and programming is very minimal effort for the "human" element, and will be no effort soon.
Sure, with enough technology and resources. Chess will be solved almost certainly in our lifetimes, Go will be solved eventually.
But ask yourself, why do that? Why make the immense fun and satisfaction of learning and playing guitar irrelevant? Why ensure that there are no more rock starts and rock concerts, only glorified DJs pressing "play" button for the audience?
Why destroy one of the most fun and universal forms of entertainment there is? Pic related, fuck this shit seriously.
>>712251228
>Why make the immense fun and satisfaction of learning and playing guitar irrelevant?
you might as well make being a human irrelevant. and that's probably where this is heading. fuck them, i'll be there in the end with my strat and my .45
>>712250510
Listen to Pet Sounds.
>>712251452
>you could have prevented this
>>712252078
Man VR is getting out of hand.
>>712251228
>>712251039
>>712250939
Sorry for the late response, had the [口 Auto] box unchecked and didn't see the replies.
Music, and creative expression are evolving and becoming greater than before.
>>712251228
I think that what you posted (Hatsune Miku) is an interesting alternative to current DJ/Band performances, although I don't care for vocaloids.
Regardless, as the potential for creative expression increases, the necessesity of performance decreases.
While the craftsmanship involved in playing the guitar may be fun, it's already hardly more than a hobby in any context.
I think that taking the time to make a perfect chessboard is honorable, and may be rewarding for some; however, no real chess player is concerned by the board he is playing on. The board the chess-board-maker makes is nothing more than a hobby that satisfies himself.
Similary, the base upon which play music is not where we should place our concerns. It is the game itself that we play, the creation of music that we should immerse ourselves in, and the depths that software allows for is not even comparible to what was possible before. Those fighting it, while nobly fighting for their craft, are not those who will be creating the interesting products from here on out.
Of course, if performances pay your bills, please keep at it and enjoy your job!!!! I apologize if I sounded discouraging, but it is all love.
Regardless, I'm going to sleeep. Have a good night all.
>>712252883
Interesting products, huh...
Whatever happened to interesting art?
>>712252883
>Similary, the base upon which play music is not where we should place our concerns. It is the game itself that we play, the creation of music that we should immerse ourselves in, and the depths that software allows for is not even comparible to what was possible before. Those fighting it, while nobly fighting for their craft, are not those who will be creating the interesting products from here on out.
this is what will destroy the human race. shit like this. thank god i'll be dead before it happens
>>712245329
He likely means one of those multi-effect pedals. like pic related. I bought one of these ten years ago and I still use it to this day for two reasons. Convenience, and decent effects. You can get most of what the pedals you'd be buying do to the tune of 100-200 bucks. Better value imo.
>>712253053
all this means is any idiot can be a musician. push a button and regurgitate everything that was preprogrammed over the past month and 2 days. this way, the no talent assholes can be rock stars as well, cause that's what they always aspired to. hurrahh!!!!!! we're all equal now!!!! go karl !!!!!
>>712253053
Superficial ideology of hollow people in a virtual world. This anon seemingly can't comprehend that one can't 'play' music without anything to play it on.
>>712253251
> hurrr durrr composers have no talent and anybody can be one
>>712253183
i just bought a head that has all that built in. i loop my wah pedal in the back and i'm gold, i can use all those separate pedals i have from over the years for doorstops. ain't tech great?
>>712245830
ValveKing 2 is killer.
Got mine for $429 brand new
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nENWWLrFmPY
>>712253387
Yes, but can you change effect profiles without using your hands?
>>712253303
>>712253319
pre programming may be akin to composing, but pushing a button is damn sure not performing. it's just pushing a button.
>>712253183
This
/thread
>>712253456
yes, i have a pedal that allows multiple and programmable setups. marshall has evolved to that now.
>>712243402
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>>712244948
Wow. Are you me?
Pro musician for almost 25 years. And I use as simple a setup as possible. I use a Fender 75 with a 2x12 cabinet. I've got no pedals. I've just modded the shit out of the amp, and have a three button footswitch for the different channels and Reverb (which I never use). There's tons of gain. Fuck pedals. They will always fuck up when you need them most. Every fucking time.
>>712253251
That isn't 'being a musician'.
>>712253319
Making 'songs' on fruity loops and ableton doesn't make someone a 'composer'. And most people can't even make good stuff with software anyways...just oceans of sonic sewage out there on Soundcloud and Bandcamp--only a few tiny islands of decent stuff. At least back in the Major Label days it was lakes of sewage instead...
>>712253591
Still usually better to have the multi-effect brick in a live environment. You can see what effects you're on/switching to, and can enable and disable individual effects on the fly in my experience. Can't say I've seen the head unit you're talking about, but they're generally all 1-2 pedal attachments that don't give too much flexibility from what I've seen.
>>712252883
Well that can be true.
But consider another medium of art, visuals.
Is it more impressive, entertaining and deep to free hand draw a circle with a real paint brush, or simply use Photoshop to make a perfect circle every time?
The fact that a performance piece can change depending on the atmosphere, the person playing, the instruments etc etc shows the true art of music and showmanship which go hand in hand.
>>712244948
Oh and I forgot to add, Line6 is for people who can't afford something good but don't know the difference anyway. Stay away from it if possible.
90 percent of the tone is in the player
>GIT GUD SON
>>712253774
well i will admit i'm using mine mostly for recording. mine is a 4 switch that can be programmed for any combo i set the head at and the memory will take more than one set per switch. it did not come stock with the head, i had to buy it over, the head only came with the standard 2 button switch
>>712243402
boss me-70 - £150 every sound you will ever need.
Speaking of Boss, I had a Boss flanger back in the old days. it wasn't that good. It went from no effect straight to ocean hurricane with no in between, if you know what i mean.
>>712254075
Yurp. It's fine for recording. But you prolly won't see the flexibility for live performance swapping without actually using a multi-effect pedal. I bought mine back when I was filling for a friend's 'band' when their backup guitar decided to get sloshed/wasted/not show up. If I didn't need it for that, I'd probably have gone with what you got.
i'm going to throw a cat in the cock fight and really stir shit up....
gibson guitars are way, way over rated. i like ibanez, and always have. my mexi-strat is as good as any fucking american made strat.
ok, will that get you guys going?
>>712254486
>sloshed/wasted/not show up
hahahah, i was in a band that used to have that singer. that's why i became a singer. get it? band problems 101
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>>712254545
I don't disagree with you on that. Gibson's price tag is mostly the name, and some attention to detail. I've tried both Gibson and their cheapo Epiphone guitars, and they're not my cup of tea. Only guitar that I actually like the feel of in my hands is my PRS SE custom.
>>712254660
Yup. I could pretty much play/do anything though, that's why they always had me around. Drummer barfing in portajohn? Call anon. Bassist busy getting laid? Call anon. Only thing I wasn't horribly comfortable with was lead. I just don't deal with pressure well. Those guys had a serious case of rock star fever tho. Playing at local churches and lots, thinking they're making it big. Still, twas fun while it lasted.
>>712254545
They are overrated, but a strat sounds like a strat, a tele is a tele is a tele, and same with a Paul...They are overpriced and temperamental tuning wise though. But when they are on, they are pretty good... Just that shorter scale doesn't seem to have that Fender springiness to it...they still have their usefulness though. As far as the whole mexi vs american fender is concerned, as I'm sure you know, each instrument has its own personality...I've played and owned Mexis that were as good or better than Americans and vice versa...set up and the block has a lot to do with it too, one of my best fenders was MIJ.
>>712254545
not good enough? ok how about this.....
tube heads aren't as good as you guys think they are. solid state is the wave of the future. you don't still have a tube TV do you?
>>712254957
ah, ya got me on drums. i'm guitar, bass, vocals if you don't mind screaming bon scott type vocals, but drums was not my strong suite. i could do just enough to keep the band in time, but that's not a drummer. i sucked at drums
>>712255178
It's called vintage, you muppet. It has a unique sound that appeals to a certain audience. I don't watch my sunday sportsball games on a tube TV because it doesn't look as clear. But I DO play on a tube amp because it has a unique sound that I enjoy every now and again.
>>712255128
>I've played and owned Mexis that were as good or better than Americans and vice versa
i've been telling people this for years, no one wants to hear me
>>712255389
>It's called vintage, you muppet
you sound like a fucking grandpa
>>712254957
>prs se custom
>literally rebranded gibson
>>712255389
ah, you're just an old man. you don't understand the WAVE OF THE FUTURE!!!
>>712255178
Different tools for different jobs, pal...So much of the Fender vs. Gibson thing is feel. But most all of sound is just straight pickups...put a Dimarzio Super Distortion Humbucker (or whatever) in the bridge of a Les Paul or in the Bridge of an HSS Strat, it's gonna sound pretty similar...Tubes are a pain in the ass, though...JC120 is one of the best amps ever...But so is the Fender Champ.
Try killing yourself. Put the shotgun into your mouth and pull the trigger with your toes. Worked for kurt cobain.
Everyone likes his sound more, now that he's dead. Kill yourself.
>>712254957
>>712255339
How did you guys end up learning multiple instruments? Say, assuming you started with a guitar like nearly everyone, I can see picking up bass out of curiosity at some point, but drums? Did you just wake up one day and say fuck it all I want to try playing drums now and went out and bought a kit?
>>712255577
ask the other anon, i specifically said i couldn't play drums for shit
far as bass, anyone that can play guitar worth a fuck can play bass, they are tuned the same. and i can scream, so that's pretty much my pedigree
Gibsons are like buildings f4om the 1800s full of intricate column tops and window details. Like an arts and crafts guitar. That in itself doesnt make them superior functionally to a brutalist concrete apartment block from 1960s poland. They are both going to sustain and play nice.. just depends on what floats your boat stylistically.
That said there is extra craftsmanship amd finishing in a gibson over your jack average CNC cookie-cut superstrat so they are justifiably more expensive.
>>712245714
If you are playing that shit I suggest that you don't invest in new equipment but rather you sell your shit or thow it away, there's enough faggots that only play 3 power chords in the world already.
>>712255454
As good... sure. Better? Nah
>>712255711
hey, i make my living at a advanced age by doing sex pistols and AC/DC covers. it pays the bills.
![tumblr_mnh6nuYd2u1ql2u6eo1_500[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/qvvCH9b.gif "tumblr_mnh6nuYd2u1ql2u6eo1_500[1].gif")
>>712255688
>i could do just enough to keep the band in time
You obviously knew what you were doing to some degree. I have zero fucking clue as it is and have never sat behind a drum kit.
>>712255759
You do know that the a lot of the same workers work at both factories right?
>>712255339
Drums were something I picked up along the way. I always wanted to learn them because I liked keeping the beat of music, same reason I learned bass first. Vocals? Not so much. I can do the screamy shit, as little as I like the genres with it.
>>712255476
>>712255530
26yo, brotatoes. I've got a lot of experience with different equipment because of old people, but that doesn't make my experience invalid.
>>712255512
What can I say? It looks, feels, tunes, and plays different.
>>712255577
Some people have a knack for musical talents. Not to say I'm better, but it's mostly a matter of "Can you pick up the core concept of this instrument, and bring out it's character" kinda deal. I learned trumpet before anything, then tuba, then I went to piano/keyboard, bass, guitar, drums. It's not so much about similarities of the instruments as much as knowing it's role in the piece. A trumpet is there to have a shouty higher pitched presence, a tuba is almost the opposite. It's more reserved, lower pitched (obvs). When you learn an instrument, you should learn it with the mindset of what it's supposed to do. Don't think of any of them being similar for learning purposes. That even pertains to whether you're playing a lead or backup guitar. They're inevitably different styles of play, and once you pick up on the style, then you can hone your coordination for actually manipulating the instrument in your meat.
>>712255759
I've got a squier 70s jazz bass that is every fucking bit as good as an american made fender jazz bass. Without question. Im not about to pay 4x the price just so my headstock can say fender instead of squier.
>>712255512
Not even close. Different scale, different design, totally different...literally.
>>712255860
Yeah. But they build guitars to different specifications and with differently graded wood stocks and electronics.
>>712255944
Yea i know. I was just bsing.
>>712255869
>I learned trumpet before anything
other anon here that did guitar bass and vocals. i started on trombone. that's some shit, we were both in the brass section, you in treble, me in bass
>>712248414
What's even the point of developing a skill and learning discipline while helping your brain develop more when you can just push buttons on a computer right? You probably have no competition because not everyone is as lazy and uninspired like you.
>>712255875
Then enjoy it. But dont feel obliged to denigrate Fender to justify your tightass buying decision. US Fenders are quantifyibly better than mexican.
>>712243402
Wah and overdrive, fiddle with it until you get sounds you want, remember the settings.
Shoppers with racks of 12 pedals do some cool things but it strikes me as a bit meh sometimes.
I have a $100 piece of shit made in Vietnam with those two pedals and i've managed to cast a spell on a room that slowed time down. In cahoots with a drum god and a bassist with a soul. It's not all about stats and fretboard prowess, guise.
i swear some of you sound like those faggots that go on and on about their vaping setup.
>>712255869
>When you learn an instrument, you should learn it with the mindset of what it's supposed to do. Don't think of any of them being similar for learning purposes. That even pertains to whether you're playing a lead or backup guitar. They're inevitably different styles of play, and once you pick up on the style, then you can hone your coordination for actually manipulating the instrument in your meat.
Shit man, I learned something useful tonight on /b/ of all places.
I'm fucking jealous of everyone with talent for music, I don't think I have any and my playing is shit. The worst thing is not having any frame of reference so I can't tell if I'm shit shit or actually good for my level. I have fun playing, but I don't want it to be just a pointless exercise without any progress and improvement, which makes me question why I'm doing it sometimes.
Obviously, I don't go out and talk with people often. As in ever.
>>712250510
I'm having trouble figuring out whether you are baiting us or if you have autism
>>712256098
Oh i dont. Im by no means saying it's a superior instrument, but for all practical reasons, its definitely as good.
I have a late 90s american strat that i fucking adore. It definitely destroys a cheap squier strat.
>>712256098
>US Fenders are quantifyibly better than mexican
i can't say that. i've owned and played both and i can say that some of the mexicasters are equal to the american made. i can also say that i've purchased some american made strats that were monday or friday models, you know what i mean, that were fucked up as a football bat. sew buttons
>>712246255
i like the dust on the top.
don't listen to leetists, if you can get it to work for you then enjoy it.
my current gear
>>712256310
your current gear are all stock photos?
>>712256364
Nah, i just don't own a camera so i can't take pictures of my current gear
>>712255952
The wood on the last American (strat) I had sucked compared to the Mexi I owned at the time. The only difference a lot of the time is the trem blocks and the printing on the necks. There is a shitton of variation per model in electronics across the board, both MIM and Made in America. The specs are mostly the same as far as tensions and most measurements, although there is variation in some cosmetic stuff (logos, pickguards), the instruments are made on the same machinery though, etc... If you don't like Mexicans, well that's your business... but the proof is in the instruments. Like I said I've played and owned some Mexis that were better than some American and I've played some Americans that were better than some Mexis...Some of the best Fenders are MIJ.
>>712255838
Making a living out of emulating someone's hard work and creativity kek you cover "musicians" are worse than niggers. But that would be implying that sex pistols and acdc worked hard to create they're music
>>712256412
the mexis are just strats that are shipped below the border to be assembled to avoid insane union prices in the USA. they are literally the same damn guitar. wake the fuck up people
>>712256498
ain't but 8 notes in the scale pal. assuming you aren't working at a 7-11 somewhere
>>712256498
Let's hear your "hard work and creativity". Have you progressed beyond Red River Valley?
>>712256517
I don't need to wake up, read my post, tell it to these >>712255952,>>712256098 guys...
>>712256652
granted
>>712256555
How does it feel to know that you are making a living from playing covers? Did you ever try to have an original band? Or were you always incapable of creating music?
>>712256024
First string/band instrument I learned was bass, should clarify. Same dude tho, swearsy realzies.
>>712256143
A lot of it is just practice. Listen to other people play, listen to how they articulate certain notes or chords in a specific way. At the risk of sounding generalizing and cliche, When it comes to music, there's no wrong way to play. There's a wrong reason to play though. If you want to play to sound like guitarist XYZ, you're doing it for the wrong reason. Comparing in music is pointless. You can't compare Santana to A7X. It's just different styles of play. They both got popular and sounded great for a handful of reasons. Most of which is just practice and learning your style of play. I found out early on that I have a knack for blues. I don't listen to the genre much, but the way my head's wired for music, I can traverse a blues scale without even second guessing myself.
>>712256498
As toxic as your post is, you're not entirely wrong. That said, there's a distinction between "mindlessly blasting cover songs" and "having an enthusiasm for Y genre, or Z musician." Some people just like playing AC/DC. Doesn't mean they have to be ultra mega overhipster.
>>712256228
People totally under rate the contribution the sustain block in the trem makes. Likewise the 2 point trem. Then there is the tuners, the electronics... 22 frets.
The US fenders are a much better instrument. Whether they are worth nearly double is open for debate, but suggesting they arent better is silly.
>>712256741
i play covers for fun, i get a few bucks on the side. i don't make my living playing covers. i actually am retired and am worth well over $1 million. my wife still works though, she's a 6 figures vice president at a major world wide bank. i'll be dead soon, but i'm having fun now being a local rock star and a raging alcoholic. so i don't know how much more i can say but, i'm having a hell of a lot of fun.
>>712256828
i like this guy, he knows
>>712256904
Interested in being a sugar daddy for a young faggot? Ill suck your dick on command, give my ass to you whenever you want, crossdress for you, whatever the fuck you want...
>>712256741
Not that guy but about 15 years back I got in a huge argument with a friend about how lame cover band posers are...Now that I'm not a kid anymore I can see the bottom line of it, though. It's a way to get paid (sometimes pretty well and a lot of the time on the reg) for playing music, and that doesn't suck. At all. Still, I've never been in a cover band and yeah it can be pretty cheesy but whatever...
>>712256498 As far as this is concerned I get it but if you go back to the start of Rock, and the days when a lot of bars had house bands everyone was playing everyone's songs and it was the norm.
>>712256904
Yeah and my wife is the president of Fender guitars, that's how ridiculous your post looks
>>712256833
>The US fenders are a much better instrument
well i'll tell you what. i'll got buy one (which i had intended to do anyway, i just kinda got off track buying a lot of other shit) and i'll get back with you on that. if you are correct, i have no problem admitting it, i love strats of any flavor. but i still say, i've played many of both of them and don't see that much difference. to me that means that the mexis are that good now. you might see it different.
>>712243402
Scratch all that shit buy some meth for a week
You'll sound like a fucking legend by the end of the week
>>712257164
"It's a way to get paid (sometimes pretty well and a lot of the time on the reg) for playing music, and that doesn't suck." He says while playing sex pistols and acdc songs
>>712257228
Hold out until just before xmas. They have discontinued the American Standard Strat and they will price slash them heading into Jan when the new line gets announced.
You wont be dissapointed if you can cast off your preconcieved ideas. However if you go into it determined that its no better blah blah, mah mexi then dont bother.
>>712257164
>cover band posers
ya know, i was going to say something really pithy here, but fuck it. i don't have to justify myself to anyone. i play a mexistrat, a les paul std, two ibanez (i love them) and an ovation round back. i own ZERO tube heads and i record my shit on a computer, no boards with turny knobs. so fuck me, and i don't care what any guitar snobs think @! hahahah, damn that felt good
This is my penis. Does anyone want to suck on it or play with it?
>>712257207
you're an idiot, because every inch of that was true
>>712257382
And the next sentence after ' At all' literally says 'I've never played in a cover band'... The post starts with 'not that guy' for cryin out loud. And if I ever was to do covers, it wouldn't be either of those bands (nothing against either band or whatever)...
>>712257674
Right on, too bad some people haven't realized that being cool doesn't outweigh having fun...
R8 bros
>>712257947
Infinitely close to zero / infinity
>>712257887
yes, you sir understand. i'm having fun
>>712257716
Yeah sure it is, I suppose anything is possible if you believe hard enough
>>712258004
I appreciate that
>>712258124
Lol just bustin ya balls man.
>>712258164
Lmao
>>712258118
just realize that any average requires a middle, a high end, and a low end. i'm one of the low to mid range high ends that balance out the average. why is that so impossible for you to comprehend?
>>712243402
For better sound quality you want lower gain all around, but here's where you start:
1) amp
2) pedals
Since the amp is the thing that makes your sound, it's also the thing to look at when your sound isn't up to par. I'd get a Classic 50 or Delta Blues if you want to stick with Peavey, start looking at Fender stuff if you don't.
I've always hated the sound quality inget from Boss pedals. Boss's electronic switching is done in such a way that even if it's disengaged, it'll make your sound worse. I'd ditch it and see if there are other distortion pedals you like that don't turn your sound into a thin buzzy mess.
>>712245893
>>712258118
Can't imagine that anyone could be more successful than him. I've known this guy before. Watch him.
>>712257382
I suppose you learned by not playing anyone else's songs ever.
>>712245893
>Do you have any idea how many times I've played stairway to heaven at guitarcentre?
how the fuck did i miss this? pure brilliance!!!
now i did play the new powersoak when it came in at reliable music in charlotte in 1979, but that's neither here nor there
>>712258550
ignore the children, they will grow up sooner or not. they know not what of the speak, and their daddies buy them equipment we had to work our asses off to afford. faggots they are, and no playin motherfuckers they become, sayeth the lord
Line 6 Pod xt and Marshall head/cab. make my Ibanez sound awesome. shit tons of tones to download and try.
>>712258816
heh.
oh well, thread is dead. everyone go back to whatever important shit you were doing before this train wreck
>>712259339
Nobody here does anything important. That's why we're here.
>>712248414
So you've released an album, or a single?
Post link or shut up.
>>712248727
But who cares? Keyboardist a have been able to do that and fool idiots since at least the 1980s. And studio wizardry has been a thing since long before that.
Ever heard of Milli Vanilli? They swept the world with monster hits and shifted tens of millions of albums, and they couldn't sing a note. It was all the producer and studio musicians.
The acid test is-and has always been-can you do it when people are watching?
If you can you're a genius. If you can't, you're just another fraud on the long list.
>>712243402
Get a Fender Supersonic.
Die happy.
jesus god, this thread is still going? fuck man, i'm all in
>>712259422
>Nobody here does anything important
my days of doing anything important to the outside world maybe. now i'm just important to my family. that does make a difference.
>>712255178
So you have a tube amp? I built mine from a 1959 PA amp, and it is better than any solid state amp I could afford. It costed me less than $300. Pic related.
Some of those modern modeling solid state amps, like the Kemper, are damn amazing.
Anyways, if your sound sucks, 80% of the time is it the amp and speakers. I see people buy 4 guitars, playing through a shitty practice amp from the 90s, and wondering why all 4 guitars sound the same...
Pedals are just "icing on the cake" of a good amp. On a bad amp, they can either slightly improve things, or make it worse. A DS-2 into a modeling amp probably isn't helping anything...
I use a ton of pedals, but it's just for variety, and shoegaze stuff.
>>712261930
i dig your choice of guitar
i have no fucking clue what that amp or cabinet is
unpopular opinion #26
- anyone that can play guitar can play bass
>>712261930
>Pedals are just "icing on the cake"
sometimes effects are required for a certain song ( re:covers, see previous posts ), but one pedal that is required no matter what is my wah. i won't live without my wah. i don't use it all the time, or very often for that matter, but i will have it if nothing else. that's just the way it's gotta be.
>>712262374
forgot to mention, it helps hella when i play voodoo chile
>>712262374
And delays... phasers for the gilmour tone.
The only effect that amplifiers do well without pedals is overdrive
>>712262606
>The only effect that amplifiers do well without pedals is overdrive
nah, some of the built in shit that the new heads are packing is as good as any of the old pedals i've used.
>>712262606
Reverb too depending on the amp.
"Can't we all just get along?"
- Rodney King, after he got the shit beat out of him.
>>712263180
That's basically what he said and it's always been like that to be honest.
Light overdrive pedals like a DS-1 or Tube Screamer are great for a nice volume/gain boost for solos or even part of your main sound (if you're actually using a tube amp).
Distortion pedals are really meant for younger players who are still getting their feet wet and can't afford an amp with already good built in distortion.
>>712261871
Don't humor yourself brotato. It's not worth believing you're all that important, even on a small scale. Emotionally attached to doesn't signify importance. When you're inevitably gone, they'll live on.
Buy a cheap vox practice amp and crank it. It'll sound better than your peavey/cheap pedal garbage.
>>712263607
I bet you're fun at parties.
>what's the point in fucking drunk bitches when I'm inevitably going to be dead?
There's no way I'm stepping into an argument over pedals and amps and shit because that's a personal preference thing with no right v wrong answers.
But if pedals are your thing you really should check this guy's line out: greeramps dot com
His amps are the shit too but wtf who can afford that shit unless you're doing really really well for yourself
>>712263528
my point being, the newer head have a world of delay effects built into them, with pedal interfaces and memory to let you preset effects and levels to bring back for later use. it's a whole new world with this shit, if i can learn to use this well enough, everything except my bad horsey may just go bye bye.
and yes, i do love the non switch wah pedal. i'm old but i can learn new tricks. and that trick is better than a cry baby
>>712263732
>I bet you're fun at parties.
like he gets invited to parties, jeeze
he wouldn't get invited to his own fucking funeral
>>712263732
There's plenty of point to it. Just because I recognize we all eventually die doesn't mean I believe it's all meaningless. It just means that I don't kid myself on the stupid shit. Feeling important leads to pride, which leads to a fall. Maybe you are important. Maybe you can keep that pride in check. But in my life, I'm better off realizing there's always someone better. I can choose to accept it, or I can strive to be better than that person.
>>712263858
Close. The only parties I get invited to are LAN parties. I'm plenty of fun at those, though.
>>712243402
get a better amp you fuck. those peaveys are trash.
sound importance:
amp
pickups
speaker
environment
cabinet
guitar wood
cable(sheilded and not too long is all that matters)
these are the main components of electric guitar timbre. also your technique and pick/fingers, but picks are cheap and technique can't be bought and should be constantly developed. the higher up the list you go, the less shitty it can be before it fucks your sound.
pls rate
mesa roadking (series1) Mains
eventide eclipse
other rack shit
mesa dual rec --> roland GK midi pickup
2x 2x12 (hand made pine/oak)
2x 4x12 (hand made pine oak)
>>712263755
Beware of boutique companies. Remember that tube amps are (usually) not as electronically complicated compared to solid state amps. Boutique companies charge more because, well, guitar players dumb.
>>712263886
>Feeling important leads to pride
being important for your family is pride, which leads to .....
person who has never been loved detected. nihlist even though he denies it. high school freshman that looks sideways when a girl looks at him on radar, sir. WTF is this Nietzsche typey doing herey?
>>712264052
>>712264052
more for your boner (one 4x12 not pictured)
>>712264028
wood should be higher on your scale, but that's just me
>>712264052
Do you play in a band called Dream Theater by chance?
>>712264052
Looks cool, dude!
Get a Big Muff
>>712264192
i played at a porno theater once, doesn't that count?
>>712243402
how about buying some lessons ? that will improve sound so much...
>>712243402
Lessons!
>>712264028
Nah dawg nah.
>environment
>speakers/cabinet
>amp
>guitar wood
>pick ups
placebo tier
>cables
>>712243402
OP grow a pair buy a fucking accordian.
>>712264192
lol
>>712264306
Whatever you say, John.
>>712264339
LOL
shitty cables make things sound like shit. these are analog signals retard.
>>712263755 (You)
Beware of boutique companies. Remember that tube amps are (usually) not as electronically complicated compared to solid state amps. Boutique companies charge more because, well, guitar players dumb.
I agree with all you've said here, but I wouldn't argue that electronic complexity is in any way related to quality of your tone- it just gives you more options
>>712264135
Eh. Close on the first two statements. I'm not particularly shy, however. I don't deny who I am. But from my experience, family doesn't mean anything. Family is not chosen, barring spouse, and they're no different from any other person. They can let you down. In my life, that's been a consistent case. So I guess not been loved can be equated? Bottom line is that I don't fool myself into thinking family is any more than people that share genetics. They can cast you out just because they don't like who you are, even if you've done nothing wrong to them.
>>712264309
>>712264313
lessons to learn guitar are way overrated, coming from someone that taught himself to play from led zeppelin and aerosmith records in the 1970s. i already had a music background playing brass so it didn't take a great leap.
>>712264434
I usually don't spend less than $40 on a cable. All I'm worried about is it not breaking or picking up interference. I never said I buy cheap/shitty cables, but retards who spend $200-100 on a cable deserve to clueless.
>>712264434
Meh. Most thrash kiddies lay on soo much distortion that a bit of cable crackle is considered a plus.
>>712264371
>OP grow a pair buy a fucking accordian.
super fucking underrated post
>>712264339
>pickups on bottom
>amp not at the top
Disqualified from conversation
>>712244855
I have used VK 100w head thru Marshall 4x12 cab for years, sounds really good for blues-rock
>>712264458
What I meant by electronic complexity is that it doesn't warrant the extra cost if you factor in time spent building and material costs.
Compare the circuitry of any tube amp to a Line 6 amp and you'll see what I mean.
>>712264486
ok, i'll give you that. but my spouse (my 2nd, btw) is the shit. we're 18 years in and it's still like the first date. and that's what you can pick. the rest of my family, blah. but see, you make a new family with your woman. just gotta find the right one. luckily i got it right on the 2nd attempt. not counting all the other hit and quit, those don't count. i'm talking about the real attempts. don't get all flustered, it will come. just be cool, don't overtry
>>712264904
I can accept that. I have no intention of being in a relationship with someone I'm not absolutely crazy for. But I view family as the ones that aren't chosen. I've seen enough in life to say not all families are family centric. Not all treat each other well. and that my future wife wouldn't be in any way comparable to a family.
>>712264458 (You)
We're in complete agreement here. I just like supporting the small business craftspeople when I can
>>712264728
Someone's never recorded before.
Environment plays the largest role due to the way sound waves interact with a room and what material they're bouncing off (carpet, tile, non-sound treated rooms, etc...). You can have a great setup, but if the room has awful reflections then it's still going to be disappointing. Professional studios are built from the ground up because there are actual, specific room dimensions that work best with sound reflections and not to mention the cost of sound treating a room too.
You're better off getting a good cabinet with good speakers and a cheaper head than the latter. If you don't believe me, then drag your ass down to guitar center, plug a nice Mesa or Rivera into the cheapest cabinet, and see how great it sounds. The same rule applies to guitars and pickups - you're better off owning a guitar with superior tone woods and stock pickups than a piece of shit sprinkled with glitter.
Go back to playing Metallica, faggot. Men are talking.
>>712265268
>But I view family as the ones that aren't chosen.
yeah, i can agree with you there. my mother's side of the family is fucking nuts. i didn't choose any of them, but my dad's side is at least sane.
>>712265375
I may be wrong, but most studio recordings involving an electric guitar are going to be recorded straight from the line out, not from an amp. Just makes sense considering you can entirely eliminate at least 2 factors (imperfections in the amp's sound, and environment) from affecting the recording.
>>712265433
Both sides of mine are real pieces of work. granted most of my father's side is already dead/moved out to pigfuck nowhere and don't talk to anyone.
>>712265615
>most recordings
>DI
nah
>>712265375
>Go back to playing Metallica, faggot. Men are talking.
see, you had me listening up until that. that's why some of us don't want to interact anymore with other players. personally, i've been playing on and off since (my god, i don't want to say this) 1978. but when i hear a smart ass comment like that, it makes me not even want to interact with any of the other musicians out here. what the fuck guys, we used to all work together. is it like this now?
>>712265375
>Someone's never recorded before.
Wrong
No matter what room you record in, a 6505 will sound like a 6505 and a Twin Reverb will sound like a Twin Reverb. Sure, it may end up sounding shitty in a mix if the room sucks, but in no way does it have more of an impact on sound than the amp
You said wood type is more important than pickups, for fuck's sake. You have to be clinically retarded to think that
>>712265732
this.
sometimes both. usually though with mic(s) on amp speaker at specific angle and distance.
Run it through a semi clean channel
>>712265615
>recorded straight from the line out
nope, i always mike my amp, then to the computer. vocals i do straight in sometimes, sometimes miked, depending on what i'm doing and the sound i want
>>712265615
>I may be wrong, but most studio recordings involving an electric guitar are going to be recorded straight from the line out, not from an amp. Just makes sense considering you can entirely eliminate at least 2 factors (imperfections in the amp's sound, and environment) from affecting the recording.
If you're doing your own recording and don't want to drop about $20,000 in building an actual studio, then going direct-in is the best/least expensive way.
It depends on the genre, the engineer recording whatever band, and the musician, but professional studio's almost always mic amps due to it capturing the room's sound, speaker break up, etc....
>>712245703
Link?
>>712245703
so did nero and martin luthier guitar king, so fucking what"
you know it's true
>>712265879
>Nope, I always...
So in other words, the smallest survey size possible.
>>712265959
I've honestly never seen professional recording, so I'm just going with what makes sense from my level of knowledge. I record my own shit every now and again, and the best sounding stuff I get is straight from the effect pedal.
>>712247705
I got the 6505 and swapped tubes for JJ's. It sounds pretty good.
>>712266356
>So in other words, the smallest survey size possible.
so in other words, up yours. i do what the fuck i do.
Kemper Profiler amp: why buy any other amp?
Surprised no one mentioned it. It's the best you can get right now.
>>712266356
Most recordings now days are a miked amp in an iso-cab. Speaker flub is a huge part of tone.
>>712265752
You'd be surprised how well a lesser amp in a properly treated room will compare to something better. Uncontrolled reflections from sound waves bouncing around all over the place is will severely alter the overall quality of sound. If you a band twice in one day at a different venue and using the same equipment, then I guarantee you that their sound will be completely different for better or worse.
Pickups really aren't as important as you think they are. The only time I worry about pickups is if one of my guitars tonal characteristics has an EQ frequency dip/spike that I want to alter to help better compliment my setup. I guess output too if you want more "edge" to your sound, but that's what the overdrive knob is for.
>>712266761
>If you a band twice in one day at a different venue and using the same equipment, then I guarantee you that their sound will be completely different for better or worse
wisdom, you guys should listen. a shit room will kill your band in a fucking heartbeat
>>712266356
>I've honestly never seen professional recording
It's fun, interesting, has limitless possibilities, and a huge pain in the ass. You'll see one day.
>>712266442
So in other words, Entirely irrelevant to my statement to you. You just do what you do cus you's you.
>>712266587
Good to know. Makes a fair bit of sense to isolate it and try to get just the amp's output, Tho I could see removing the string strumming being a bit odd for sound.
>>712267030
The amplifier is in a separate/isolated room for that exact reason. Normally you'll be sitting with the engineer while you're playing your part wearing headphones so you can hear yourself and the other tracks.
>>712267030
>So in other words, Entirely irrelevant to my statement to you. You just do what you do cus you's you.
intelligence X experience = ?
you figure it out. smallest survey size means nothing. it's not a survey unless you are taking a poll of who is on /b/ at this hour of the fucking night. i could be any idiot, so could you. so what does your survey mean? dick fucking nothing. i mic my amps. try not to let it bother you so much.
anyway, on the other side, tell me about your music, what do you play?
>>712243402
>lessons
you guys do know that OP left here about 4 minutes after he posted this and you have been running his do nothing thread for no reason since then, right? just sayin
>>712243402
if it was me i'd sell the whole fuck all and buy a 1991 Camaro. you'd be hella awesome with the chicks and doesn't afraid of anybody
save for better amp
>>712267013
I have no intention of going into music production on a professional level. just a hobby for me.
>>712267252
Good to know. Thanks brotato.
>>712267460
It... doesn't.... bother me....? I'm just trying to find your logic. If it's the logic is 'fuck everyone else' then whatevs.
As for the music I play, I said earlier I play the blues a lot, as it's a genre that comes natural to me. That said, I don't really have limits. Country, Dad rock, metal of any description, even electronic, though that detracts from the guitar topic, As I normally make that with keyboard/in LMMS (Think FLstudio if you haven't heard of it.)
That said. I'm off to work. Cheers, all.
>>712268468
>If it's the logic is 'fuck everyone else'
not until you confronted me about my choice. i assumed i had my own choice of recording style. maybe i'm wrong.
The cheapest thing to do is work with what you have to make it better. Assess what you dislike about your tone and figure out ways to fix it. You could probably turn the gain down on your pedal. This way when you start upgrading you'll be able to get the sound you want.
Next easiest/cheapest thing is to get a new pedal. The ds-2 is good like, super rarely, otherwise it's just a bunch of poop.
I'd say next is to upgrade guitars. Not to be that guy, but ibanez is trash. Stick to the basics and get a fender or a Gibson/epiphone. Research the sound of each and make your decision from there. Fenders tend to be treblier, gibsons tend to be heavier. It's mostly to do with the pickups, but whatever.
Then I'd say go for a new amp. Honestly if you keep your amp on clean chance re you'll get by with good other equipment. But if you have a nice amp and trash other stuff it's pointless. The obvious suggestion is a tube amp, and those are $$$. If you can swing it, I'd suggest going on Craigslist and finding a solid state amp from the 80s or 90s. You'll save a ton of money and it'll sound way better than the modern sim amps. Again I'd say stick to the classics. Fender for a largely untampered sound, Marshall for a super compressed sound, vox if you want the "somewhere in the middle" sound but it's a very specific sound. Branch out to a new amp when you feel comfortable.
After that start fucking with editing your guitar like getting new pickups and stuff. You can also slowly start getting yourself an arsenal of pedals if you so desire. If you're tapping a lot a compressor may be good. A reverb pedal might be worthwhile but is a dangerous investment because you don't wanna be one of those assholes that turns the reverb up all the way to mask the fact he can't play shit. Other pedals will come in when you're comfortable. Don't waste time with a multi effects pedal. It'll never sound amazing and you'll just spend an hour flipping through presets instead of honing your sound.
Had a vypyr 120 head and sold it.
Now I got a 6505, Boss DD-3 and Boss NS-2. Guitar is a jackson KEXMG. Sounds great for me, but mostly fits melodic death metal
>>712245714
I recommend a crunch and stay in standard E
>>712270293
>Next easiest/cheapest thing is to get a new pedal. The ds-2 is good like, super rarely, otherwise it's just a bunch of poop.
>Don't waste time with a multi effects pedal
If you're still getting your feet wet with tone and effects, then an inexpensive multi-effects pedal is the better choice. Better than getting stuck with one pedal that only does one thing that the person isn't even sure they'll like.
>I'd suggest going on Craigslist and finding a solid state amp from the 80s or 90s. You'll save a ton of money and it'll sound way better than the modern sim amps
Modern SS amps are, for the most part, leagues better than older ones. Unless you're looking for something very specific like an old Roland JC-120, then buying an old as shit transistor amp is a bad investment.
>Again I'd say stick to the classics.
Or just try stuff out and use your best judgement.
>After that start fucking with editing your guitar like getting new pickups and stuff.
Or just get a better guitar.
>If you're tapping a lot a compressor may be good.
Assuming most people who use tapping are also playing with distortion, then a compressor is useless since distortion already adds compression.
>You don't wanna be one of those assholes that turns the reverb up all the way to mask the fact he can't play shit
Funny coming from the same person who recommends a compressor.
>you'll just spend an hour flipping through presets instead of honing your sound.
You mean getting an early start by getting a basic understanding of what effects do what and how they interact with each other?
Genius.
>>712270293
>ibanez is trash
bullshit. you made sense until you made a nonsensicle totally "what you like" type statement like that. you are seriously suggesting a random epiphone over any ibanez? yeah, i'd take that advice. i saw a $59 epiphone in the guitar center mailer today. lets set him up with that.
jeeze
