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>>712134516
>never came after your guns
Fuck Americans are fucking spastics.
>>712134760
They did come for our guns.
Gun laws are the worst they've been since 2004.
>>712134832
have any of your guns been confiscated?
>>712134516
>implying obango didnt have an anti gun speech waiting for every shooting
>>712134832
Boo fucking hoo. Americas obsession with firearms is weird and creepy.
>>712134887
My ability to get certain guns has been taken away.
Also my ability to get certain accessories, and the cost of gun ownership has increased significantly.
That's coming for my guns.
If I slowly regulated away the personal computer, wouldn't you think that's an attack on your right to compute?
>>712134938
but did he come to your home and take away your guns?
if anyone came to your home a took your guns physically you should call the police because you may have been conned
>>712134887
only because they aren't dumb enough to try
>>712135065
so no one came to your home and took away your guns?
got it
>>712135143
>>712135102
>>712134887
baby steps muh lady
>>712134516
you forgot the Obama Death Panels
>>712134938
THIS.
Also,
>implying I wouldn't fucking piss myself in excitement if medicare, medicaid, social security, and all other handouts were eliminated
Fuck you, OP.
Most users of /b/ are over 65
>>712135065
It amazes me that people think like this.
>If I slowly regulated away the personal computer
no no no. The comparison is, what if I added regulations to your computer, like it costing more because of environmental damage or something.
No one has, or wants to, "regulate away" your guns. Anymore that the government wants to "regulate away" cars you idiot.
>>712135451
under 30 edgemaster detected. You've clearly never had to make it on your own, or suffered from real life at all.
>>712135537
where does that come from? i would expect most /b/ users are 13 or some shit
im 18 and been here for years
>>712135065
You mean the kind of guns and accessories whose only purpose is to facilitate the efficient killing of human beings? You mean not being able to have 30 rounds in a magazine is such an inconvenience when you're out hunting or target shooting, or god forbid you needed to ward off an intruder or home invader?
That's not coming for your guns, that's being smart and not giving citizens access to killing machines. You should learn the difference.
>>712135065
oh no poor baby
you mean you cant afford to buy 12 guns a year anymore on your 12k/yr welfare?
hows he taking my fucking social security away
>>712135451
AFAIK, SS isn't a handout, you have to pay into the system first, but it's been mishandled atrociously by the government and will disappear long before either of us get a chance to use it.
>>712135584
>>712135658
basically you have to pay 200 USD if you want to moddify your gun in certain ways because of the ATF trying to control crime and shit.
all most gun people want are suppressors because they're cool as shit and you dont need ear protection because they ARE the safety device
>inb4 silencers make it impossible to hear gunshots from a distance
>>712135739
well, they might raid it to pay for stuff. congress does that a lot. but I think it will be fine-ish.
Ryan wants to privatize medicare ... which ... I dunno. You are a lot more likely to see death panels once a private company gets a hold of it lol.
>>712135883
yeah I can see how those are cool as shit, and frankly that is even a bit stupid to regulate, but w/e.
What I don't get is why everyone is so ape shit about not allowing background checks. I know it would fuck up gun sales at shows and stuff, but I mean... Is that really "Obama is gonna take our guns".
Are gun owners unable to admit it is a problem when some jackoff can walk into a school and kill 20 kids ( or w/e ).
At least everytime there is a shooting now, I won't have to listen to
>FALSE FLAG
>OBAMA WANTS OUR GUNS
>THESE ARE CRISIS ACTORS
>>712135584
Well, I think we should ban computer games because my kid installed one of them vidya games and our computer got a virus.
Must be them damn vidya games.
Just like trying to regulate away rifles when hand guns are used in 99% of crimes.
>>712136083
See you're buying into media lies.
There has never been a gunshow loop hole.
Background checks were always required at gun shows.
>>712136100
not even a barely decent argument, but to play along - this is something people argue, and the industry has to self-regulate to keep the government out of it.
maybe if you fags could self regulate a bit, and I dunno, chill out on the mass murders for a bit - it would be ok.
>>712136165
oh that is good to know! so you guys are cool with background checks?
>>712136183
Mass murders are a media hype.
And a lot of them have actually been false flags.
The gun market already self regulates. Just like the car market does.
Cars weren't required by law to come with abs up until 2012, and guess what? It was hard to find a car without abs.
>>712136275
>And a lot of them have actually been false flags.
ok buddy
>>712136083
there is retards on both spectrums
most sensible gun owners want suppressors, gun customization, and imports
it isnt that we hate background checks, its that when we go to a flea market we want to buy guns. also if background checks were as harsh as most anti gun people want then we couldnt even gift guns to our kids and shit or even let them use it, and some laws might make it a felony for a friend to keep your guns while you're on vacation without them having a background check and other bullshit
gun owners just want to stop being hassled for almost no reason
>>712136220
The only reason to be against background checks is because it creates a gun registry under a different name.
>>712134516
>>712134516
He also re approved the patriot act and the NSA spying on US citizens. There is a lot more.
>>712136165
>>712136220
every legal gun owner is cool with background checks, i had to do one to buy my mosin at a gunshow
no big deal
we just hate the overpricing, and hassle of shit that doesnt need to be messed with
>>712135051
You obviously have never owned/fired a gun
>>712136350
i live in NC
we have no gun registry other than the usual ATF background check registry
so private transaction bought guns dont need to be registered, and its pretty sweet
>>712136606
I live in Colorado, and its against the state constitution to have any gun registry.
But because of background checks, they have a registry. It's a fucking scam.
The fastest way to make more criminals is make more acts criminal.
Keep adding laws, and you'll get more and more people breaking them.
>>712136733
so Colorado does have a gun registry even though its against your constitution?
thats anti gun retards for you
luckily enough people arent fascists in NC so we're safe on that battleground for now
>>712136440
That is most certainly not the NRA's position. There are not background checks in my state for private resale ( eg: gunshows )
i fucking hate open carry faggots. you don't need your fucking side arm to shop at petco. Nor does your wife.
>>712136927
my state doesnt have a background check for private sales either, but you wont see too many sales without one because of all the shit you can get into for selling to a felon
so basically all small gunshows dont have them, but shows with commercial dealers there arent that stupid
>>712137007
I fucking hate tranny faggots. you don't need your fucking snowflake identity to shop at petco. Nor does your "wife".
>>712137007
i only open carry because im not 21 so i cant get my CC
also my truck doors dont lock, and im not leaving 600$ in an unlocked vehicle
>>712136275
>And a lot of them have actually been false flags.
Which ones?
>>712135799
It's barely at any risk, and what little there is would be eliminated if we took off the income cap of who pays into it.
>>712137275
He's probably referring to sandy hook or something. Retard.
>>712137168
Maybe instead of buying a $600 firearm, you should spend some money on repairing your vehicle, kid.
>>712135584
I think that computers shouldn't be allowed to have more than 2 CPU cores, and 2ghz clock frequency. No one needs more than that for normal computer usage, the only people who would need more than that are those hacker people who bruteforce passwords and ddos websites.
You can still play your video games with those CPUs. Nobody needs high frame rates, or photorealistic graphics unless you like to imagine you're actually killing people.
>>712138479
that's like saying that your gun barrel should be plastic instead of metal
>>712135065
Aww, you can't get military-grade assault rifles, extended clips, and silencers?
You poor baby.
>>712139483
Nope, that's like saying your rifle has to have at least a 16" barrel and you can only have 10 round magazines.
Even though you can get a pistol with a 3" barrel and a shotgun with a 12round tube mag.
>>712139678
what's wrong with that?
>>712134516
Yes because most gun crime involves registered guns. Not illegal guns. No sir. Statistics say nigger and spic gangs commit most gun related crime with black market guns? Statistics are racist. What we should really do is take away the guns of white southern people who have a almost no gun related crime. Why ? Well kids will shoot schhols up. Don't you know that on average literally every week, there's a school shooting. Yeah. Also did you know more kids will shoot schools up. Even though they can't buy guns ?
>>712139770
When it's easy to convert something from legal, to illegal, there's no point in having it be illegal in the first place.
I can take a rifle and cut the barrel short and have an illegal SBR in a matter of minutes.
Or I can give sheckles to the almighty Jew and he'll let me register my SBR, or I can just buy a fucking "Pistol" varient of any rifle, and as long as I don't shoulder it, it's legal.
It's a cluster fuck of retarded ideas posted by retards with no gun knowledge.
>>712139770
What's wrong with not being able to have more than 2 cores with a max of 2ghz?
It's an entirely arbitrary limit put in place by people that I would have no problem saying are slightly retarded. Why is a barrel less than 16" more deadly? Why is a 30rd magazine more deadly than a 10rd one? You can switch out mags in less than 3-4 seconds, and why would someone planning on killing people care about mag limits?
>>712140060
because people are lazy
30 round mag is more appealing to someone intending to kill 30 people than a 10 round one
2cores and 2ghz would be utterly shit, even modern webbrowsers would melt your comp with that low performance, hence my gun barrel made of plastic metaphor
fucking children being illegal is an arbitary limit yet i don't see you advocating for it
>>712140284
You do know that guns are made by hand everyday through out the entire world right?
>>712140284
I'd just like you to know that I agree with you. Only chiming in here so that you know you aren't the last sane person left on Earth.
>>712140284
Your metaphor was pretty shitty, I frequently use a dual core 1ghz Compaq, and it deals just fine with everything except gaming.
The strongest part of your argument is that people are lazy? If people are that lazy, why are they expending the energy to go out and kill people? It isn't that hard to change a magazine.
Children being illegal for what? Buying guns? If children should be allowed to buy guns, then how about alcohol, tobacco, should they be free game at the bar for 1 night stands?
>>712140595
your point being?
>>712140691
thx fellow intellectual *tips fedora*
>>712134516
>tfw Trump probably prohibits Congress from robbing Social Security, annually.
>>712136362
Bro, the nsa have been spying on everyone since forever.
>>712139790
It's because of people who are retarded like you and leave their guns unlocked in a place that's easy to access so that, for instance, a teenager could take said gun and shoot up a school with it. Nobody's saying that these teenagers are buying the guns that they shoot up schools with, you fucking idiot.
>>712140724
Guns are not hard to come by, and even in a total ban, guns are not hard to come by. No matter what the law says, people are going to go against it. You love guns when they're on your side, but for some reason you've chosen to demonize your fellow man.
>>712140713
>fucking children
>fucking
>children
typical american failing basic reading comprehension
I really hate this false equivalence shit.
When Obama was elected in 2008 the conservative world went ape shit, but they went ape shit over nothing. The notion that he had been born in Kenya was bullshit, as was the idea that he was coming for our guns.
In short, they were whining over nothing.
Now with Trump taking the electoral college in 2016, the left is going a little ape shit, but... WITH GOOD REASON.
The things we're whining about are things Trump has actually said or done. He's promised to build a wall, deport millions, shred medicare, social security, and medicaid, etc. He's made bigoted statements, shown a distinct lack of understanding for international politics (e.g. his view of NATO), etc. etc.
I'm just not going to list it all, but here's the salient detail the conservative world just doesn't comprehend... it's ALL TRUE.
Trump is fucking insane, and these assholes literally don't comprehend why we're pissed off and it says a hell of a lot more about them than it does us.
(Or the 1.1 million people who no value, per the current popular count. Thanks to one relic of the 3/5ths compromise/slavery, the electoral college.)
/thread
>>712141176
Do you not understand the financial crisis?
>>712141176
Nigga, did you just insinuate that a black person's vote, still constitutes just 3/5 of a normal person's vote?
>>712134516
Obama did come after guns, faggot. He had other things in his way like Congress and the Supreme Court.
>>712140713
>>712140813
>>712140813
>>712140713
I didn't realize there were completely retarded gun grabbers in /b/. Well they didn't call it the most retarded board for nothing!
>a teenager could take said gun and shoot up a school with it.
AHAHAHAHA leave it to the liberals to be THIS retarded.
>>712141176
What's wrong with deporting illegals. They already know the risks that come with it. Plus Obama already deported over 2mil people and he's not put on blast by the media.
>>712140044
Why are there speed limits in the USA?
When it's easy to convert something from legal, to illegal, there's no point in having it be illegal in the first place.
I can take a car and and drive 90 in a 70 zone in a couple of minutes.
As long as I drive 60 in a 70 zone it is completely legal.
It's a cluster fuck of retarded ideas posted by retards with no drive knowledge.
>>712141095
HOLY SHIT, my bad for thinking the word "fucking" was there for exasperation. It's kinda hard to tell with that horrible punctuation.
Although, if you look back at my comment, I covered that possibility with "should they be free game at the bar for 1 night stands?". That implies sex, if you didn't catch that.
So is that it for your argument? Nothing more than personal attacks? This includes >>712141410.
I don't even care if this is bait, I'm terrible at arguing, and this is good practise.
>>712141087
are nuclear weapons not hard to come by too?
>>712141176
Still. Better. Than. Hillary. There's no constest there. One is a treasoning wall street puppet who gets money from enemies of the US, ruined middle-east, wants open war with Russia and is so corrupt even the chaos gods would tell her to slow the fuck down. Trump may be an annoying orange, but at the fucking least hes not Hittlary Clinton.
>>712141520
It is.
Speed limits are ridiculous.
But anyone could in a matter of minutes have an illegally short concealable full auto battle rifle. So why bother regulating it so only criminals will have it?
What do you think the majority of people do?
>>712141520
There doesn't need to be speed limits, merely speed recommendations around corners to let drivers know the safe cornering speed.
People on the highway should be allowed to drive as fast as they want.
conservatives cant argue their way out of a wet sock
>>712141879
no
that endagers the lives of others
>>712135658
it's not only about hunting or fishing. It's about being able to protect yourself from the government. A well armed citizenry is the first line of defense against tyranny. If only the government had guns then the monopoly of power would lend itself to corruption very quickly. I don't blame you for your lack of knowledge of history everyones got to learn the truth sometime
>>712142182
It statistically and historically doesn't.
Speedlimits are in place as a stream of revenue.
>>712142190
also foreign invaders have a really hard time when the citzens are really well armed. I mean we could barely stop a bunch of rock throwing retards with a few AK's and RPG's and we are the super power
>>712141824
regulation closes loopholes that make it easy for criminals to obtain guns
>>712135658
It's a right, not a need. Nothing you can ever do about it.
>>712141570
you didn't cover shit, you took my argument and said it back at me, so answer my question and your own
>>712142182
he's right you know.. For example I have a friend and he is a jack ass he drives as fast as he wants and doesn't give a fuck even though there are laws. People tend to go as fast as the road conditions provide.
>>712142190
another one of these dipshits
>>712142330
theres a limit to what kind of guns you can obtain.
>>712142367
you and all those other people are dumb.
>>712142275
No, criminals can already buy "out of loop" guns. Regulations don't affect black market. Regulations don't affect private citizens dealing secretly from the government. Regulations just make it harder for people who dont want to kill others to buy guns.
>>712142275
>Reply to Thread No.712134516
First of all regulation sounds like something someone does when they are constipated. Yo let me pop some exlax it's time to regulate. Second of all the cat is out of the bag. Gun technology can not be suprressed it's gained too much momentum the only thing you can really do is make sure the good guys out number the bad guys and secure localized zones
>>712142462
But that's actually correct, it's what our founding fathers intended if you don't believe that just read what they wrote about it.
>>712142635
>regulations dont effect black market
bold faced lie
>>712142608
maybe it works better in germany because the ones that go too fast just end up driving over a cliff vs here in the US we have bumpers so it's more likely to cause a chain reaction ..In my area most people go 10 over
>>712134938
>implying that is somehow wrong
>implying that is actually taking guns away, rather than criticizing retards with guns
>>712142752
founders fathers were wrong about shit. stop worshipping them.
>>712134516
hillary wanted to lower social security.
just wait and see. neither would have had any power anyway. whatever happens under a president is whatever the secret government wants to blame them for. watch "trump" fix the national debt that obama "doubled".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwggDRfHLyU
>>712142928
They were much smarter than your dumb autistic ass.
>>712142752
bingo actually the revoltuionary war started when the brits tried to confiscate guns in concord also other lesser known facts washington in his youth tried to be in the british military but they didn't accept him he was also a freemason but they branched off from their european roots. He also after winning the revolution turned his military might to collecting alchohol tax. also he wasn't the first president . also european freemasonry regrained control of american political system in 1812
>i have every right to own a millitary grade weaponry without training or qualifications
wrong. just take a pea shooter like everyone else.
>>712143079
oh ya got me
>>712142833
that's right they make the prices go up which makes the margins of the dealers go up which makes more peoples dick get hard for the sweet criminal profits . For example I hate alchohol but if that shit was easy to manufacture and highly illegal to sell you bet your ass i'd be tempted by high margins.. intelligence rules society always
>>712142348
Getting upset are we? I pretty much covered everything in >>712140713
You didn't provide a counter argument, so I'm not sure what I didn't cover. I'm also not sure what you mean by
>you took my argument and said it back at me
If you wanna point that out, that'd be nice.
>>712142367
>People tend to go as fast as the road conditions provide.
Is that not good?
I go as fast as I'm comfortable, which is the speed limit on the highways(due to cops), and about 20 over on the curvy roads between me and the highways. I'd probably go about 90-95 on the highways without speed limits due to my cars shitty gearing. If I had a nicer car, probably about 130-140.
>>712135051
>foreigner Americans don't care about detected
>>712142752
>Worshipping 200 year old britbongs
So unamerican anon. Get with the times.
>>712141805
I keep telling everyone this i don't like trump but is definetly better than Hilarry!
It's not like they had much of a choice here yet everyone complains that it's the end of the world and trump is the new hitler i would have been afraid if Hillary was president and i'm not even american!
>>712135451
>social security, and all other handouts
>handouts
Nigger, I gave up abtut 1/6 of my income for the last 40 years to pay for my "handout", and now your orange-cunt of a senile old president is going to scrap that shit because republicans have been buying votes by cutting taxes the whole time and there's no more taxes left to cut.
I hope he drafts your ass for the coming war with Russia, you little shitstain.
>>712141410
Alright so your argument is calling him a retard while he made a valid point!
Ok buddy
>>712143264
Guns are bad people are bad. Guns should be used on people to stop them from being bad. Then we should use guns on the guns to stop the guns from being bad.
People going as fast as the road conditions allow isn't good because everyone has different cars so some people can go faster than others.
I think the reason speed limits exist is because some people have small egos and they assume the faster the car is moving the more it proves they are a good driver
>>712143665
then you should have been more politically involved and chosen better politicians.
baby boomers are getting what they deserve tbh.
>>712143665
>my parents stole from me, so it is OK that I steal from my children
>>712135451
americans are so self destructive. you don't want any of the luxuries of a 1st world nation, but all the travesties of living in a 3rd world country.
you make usa sound like mad max or somalia or some shit. get your shit together. you don't need a stockpile of military weapons.
>>712143665
Sounds like you got played by the goverment son. That's why I work under the table when I can and intentionally don't earn enough to get taxed even if they do find out what i've been doing.
>>712143264
>you mad brah you mad brah?
that is you right now claiming me being upset when i press the point and you have nothing to come back at me with
so are you for or against child molestation since that is ''It's an entirely arbitrary limit put in place by people'' as you put it
>>712143820
>steal
>idontknowwattaxesdo.jpg
>>712142190
>drones
K now what
>>712140729
Brah, the nsa have only been powerful since facebook.
>>712143665
man that sucks some asshole came up with a ponzi scheme figuring your generation would take care of my generation well enough to ensure we would have good jobs and a bunch of babies but instead my generation turned out to be a bunch of under-employed moochers and now you don't get shit. Literally would have been better off saving the money yourself in gold outside of the banking system .. ya got JEW'D AND NOW YOUR SCREWED
>>712135102
>>712135143
Have you been taking the phrase "coming for your guns" literally as someone coming up to your house and taking them from you? Jesus...
>>712141879
I think Germany has it right, no speed limits on highways, but populated areas are still limited.
>>712143731
So we should use guns to get rid of guns? What guns do we use to get rid of the guns we used to get rid of the other guns?
That is entirely up to the people to know how fast they can comfortably drive in their cars. Should people drive the speed limits in a blizzard? No, they should have the common sense to slow down, if they don't, they slide off the road. Same thing applies.
>>712143908
That's the point you suddenly changed to? I am against child molestation, because it isn't an entirely arbitrary limit. The human brain isn't fully developed until it is in the 20s. Sure, 18 is an arbitrary limit, because every brain matures at a different rate, but we don't have the resources to test every individual for maturity. So 18 seems like a decent trade off, although 16 would also work, because 16 year olds are pretty aware of what they are doing.
>>712144248
that was my point from the very beginning, you just were too fucking blind to see it
and not even the brain of some 40 year olds are mature enough to hold a fucking air rifle so why give them a full auto rifle?
>>712143969
drones now what.. tanks now what.. nukes now what.. mustard gas now what. Usually there are two reasons to go to war. For land and riches of the land or to enslave. Preferably you can do both. So the issue is they would have to find soldiers who would willingly kill civilians without just cause if they were merely trying to take land. If they are trying to enslave it becomes a war of attrition and basically it's who runs out of resources faster. The people trying to enslave us or the resitance. Look at the iraq war. Those guys were heavily out armed and they were able to hold their home fort pretty well for about 15 years now. Look at vietnam we got our asses handed to us. So you'd be facing a counter insurgancy from military defectors who aren't down with the corruption and you'd have to kill 85% of the population in a tactical manner. It's not easy....
>>712144248
you can never get rid of the guns but you can add tasers to the guns
>>712134516
Gun laws have been tighter since Obama than they have been in the last 50 years.
Are you fucking stupid dude?
>>712144414
That was your point from the very beginning was it? Was it really? Okay, well I'm sorry, I guess I'm just retarded.
So, I'm just gonna guess that you think people shouldn't be allowed to drive, or have control of large machinery? Because they aren't mature enough to handle it?
>>712144654
Can I add a tazer to a tazer?
>>712144758
I'm going to increase your vocabulary. The gun laws have been STRICTER. look at that you teach me how to be an obama hating hill billy and i teach you advanced words we all win
>>712144809
no, i jsut think you need a license before you can drive a car, and witht hat license you shouldn't be able to drive a fucking tank, that's all
also, being able to drive at the age of 16 in america but to drink at the age of 21 is more retarded than your gun laws i think
>>712144925
>also, being able to drive at the age of 16 in america but to drink at the age of 21 is more retarded than your gun laws
Haha that came out funny
>>712144758
Hey there, pal! I see you just made a claim without providing evidence. Please make sure your claims are supported by evidence, otherwise you just sound like a manchild :^).
>>712144925
>also, being able to drive at the age of 16 in america but to drink at the age of 21 is more retarded than your gun laws i think
Why's that? I don't see anything wrong with that.
Although the minimum age to enter the military should be 21 too, not 18. That's what makes no sense.
>>712144984
You can't buy certain guns anymore, can't have over a certain magazine size, and a lot of prices have gone way, way up. Especially for .45 ACP and 5.56 NATO rounds.
Only shotgun shells are affordable now.
>>712144887
it's more practical and tactical to add a laser to your taser but i suppose you could have a long range projectile taser and a short range stunner. In case you felt the desire to make the conflict more personal once you have the upper hand
>>712144758
nobody took your guns
>>712144809
his point was he is a foreigner and he wants to butt fuck you but doesn't want to get shot so please disarm yourself
>>712134832
At a state, not federal level
>>712145123
They are working towards it gradually. Some states have defacto bans on certain guns. For example, allowing a certain pistol but not allowing it to have more than 3 round magazines when they don't even make 3 round mags
So in some states, yes they have already taken people's rights to bear arms.
>>712143789
>then you should have been more politically involved and chosen better politicians.
Like the majority of Americans, I did.
>>712145203
that's state and not federal. so why are you so fear mongered over obama?
also some states are red, some states are blue. what's the problem with states rights again?
>>712144111
My father has. And he still believes Obama will find a way to stay in power after January 20th
>>712143882
>Sounds like you got played by the goverment son.
No, I got fucked by a minority of retarded voters.
sometimes you just got to punch stab and shoot the person
>>712145264
voting isn't enough. write to your local congressman(feminists are triggered) or whatever. get involved with your local republican or democrat groups etc
>>712145075
Which certain guns can you not buy? Because the guns you can't buy weren't made unobtainable during the Obama administration. If you're talking automatic weapons, why didn't GW Bush and Republican Congress repeal that ban? They could've.
Magazine size restrictions have only been put in place in some states or cities.
And as for ammunition cost, that's simple free market economics. You gun fappers go nuts every four years and drive up the price of everything gun related because you go out and buy. The NRA's done a great job of getting you all nice and scared so you guarantee me a nice 45% stock jump I can free ride.
>>712145321
jfc. there are so many paranoid idiots on both sides. its ridiculous
>>712139636
Well..
For the most part you cant get an assault rifle, as those are, by definition, select fire. Which haven't been manufactured to be sold to the general public for decades.
Silencers have required a federal tax star for decades as well
>>712144925
Now, I can agree with you, to operate a motor vehicle on public roads can endanger other people, it also isn't a right, so a license is good. Although, I'm not sure if you need a licence to operate a tank, never checked.
I'm not sure whats retarded about the 2nd part of your post. People are generally responsible enough at 16 to pass a license test, and drive. However, like i said earlier, brains aren't fully developed until later hence the 21 years old to drink thing, although, it could be lower.
>>712145153
All he had to do was ask ;^)
>>712145294
Because Obama ushered a lot of it in. And has written up executive orders that do a lot of anti-gun things, including one where you can be arrested without cause, trial, or jury.
Scary stuff. I'm getting out of this country as soon as I can afford it.
>>712145410
Yes they were. I don't remember specifics, but there was a semi auto shotgun you used to be able to buy before Obama, along with a number of pistols in some states. It has also become more expensive in some places to get the same guns as before, and ammo prices are at an all time high.
I don't even use guns but I would like to get into hunting one day.
>>712135702
>>712139636
This is the 30th time ive seen "you poor baby" in gun related threads.
You shills need to change up your collective vocabulary
>>712145525
your gun can't fire enough tiny bullets to kill all the aids ...he's french..
>>712145086
Add a bayonet and a scope to it and you have the perfect killing machine.
>>712134516
They attempted to on multiple occasions.
>>712135117
I would like to see one of those with Boomhowur.
>>712145636
You underestimate my 2mm pinfire minigun.
>>712145626
Name 1 executive order where Obama placed a limit on firearms.
>>712145626
I highly doubt the Obama administration spent any minute of effort to ban one subtype of shotgun. As for the others, state's rights man.
>>712145294
>that's state and not federal.
Great, so now you admitted that he is actually going to take guns. Glad you aren't as retarded as other liberals.
>>712145294
>also some states are red, some states are blue. what's the problem with states rights again?
Nothing of course, we're just laughing our asses off at liberal crybabies after the election complaining about EC.
>>712145920
>Name 1 executive order where Obama placed a limit on firearms.
NDAA 2011
>I highly doubt the Obama administration spent any minute of effort to ban one subtype of shotgun. As for the others, state's rights man.
No, it's a defacto ban. It's not the shotgun itself that's banned, but a certain combination (grip + side carraige) that the shotgun itself is made with that makes it banned. Not technically banned, but you can't get a lot of guns that are made with a grip and include some other pre-built in feature.
Are you even American? You don't seem to be very up to date on much of this stuff. Or then again, maybe you're a typical liberal. Those people are truly delusional and have no sense of reality.
And I say that hating both conservatives and liberals.
>>712145424
Yea. It's sad.
Like he believes that Obama will use these protests to declare martial law, and in turn suspend the transfer of power.
But the thing is, we don't even have a full document detailing martial law. Just the suspension of Habeas Corpus. Which would allow US military to server as law enforcement
>>712145950
i am for the 2nd amendment. but there is a huge difference between facts and fear mongering dude. the closest thing to taking your guns away is hillary making gun manufacturers liable(which I think is wrong). and she won't have even taken them away. just make sure you can't get new ones.
and obama=/= she is more liberal about guns than obama is
>>712146132
NDAA isn't an executive order. It still needs to be passed in congress
And maybe speaking of Saiga and other Russian mad weapons? Those are prohibited from import due to sanctions on Russia. But not this illegal to manufacture or import otherwise?
Like we sill can get those imported from other countries or manufactured stateside
The actual left doesn't wanna take your guns.
>>712146421
No, American made guns are being de facto banned.
You don't seem to know anything about this so obviously this is gonna go nowhere. Are you even from the USA?
>>712146174
this is what 20 years of fox news fear mongering + echo chamber life style has done to people.
the silver lining of a trump presidency is that it will make sure people on the left don't fall into this trap.
>>712136083
Gun show sales are typically sales between two private individuals, not a company and an individual. Regulating that would be like regulating Craigslist sales - ridiculous and near impossible.
>>712142462
LOST! and saved
>>712146623
Most of the hard left haven't.
The Liberals have. And almost are bad as the right with it
>>712136183
>mass murders
So you blame all gun owners for the actions of a lunatic fringe group? That's like blaming all black people for the actions of certain BLM protests-turned-riots, or for the shooting of cops. That's like blaming all Americans for the nuking of Japan. That's like blaming all of Austria for Hitler.
>>712146623
And I was bringing up the echo chamber affect with him, and he refused to even listen, just called me a liberal instead
>>712137007
Maybe you'll think differently when someone with a gun saves your sorry ass from being mugged by Tyrone.
>>712135451
This idiot have no idea what he is talking about.
>>712137007
To be fair most of those people would rather conceal carry but it's harder to get and more expensive.
I don't mind open carry at all, but conceal carry is more courteous. But again, it's harder to get it.
>>712134516
They DIDN'T come after our guns?!?! Where the fuck have you been? And why you Suckin that msnbc dick?
>>712146736
its a growing cancer for certain. most people are not happy with their economic situation(especially young minorities who will make up a good deal of the left) and blah blah blah nobody finds you attractive so you turned to feminism kind of girls.
it will eventually be as bad as the right wing, but hopefully the left wing narrative changes.
>>712146465
Always so primitive
>>712147162
Destined to be enslaved. You and your children.
If you don't acknowledge we are primitive animals, you can bet the ones with all the power at the top will. And they have no qualms with slavery.
>>712147146
The far left is trying. And making some progress in appealing to them. Showing how the typical two party system does not care about the working class.
But alot of Liberals withing the Democratic party refuse to hear it.
>>712144471
>Look at the iraq war. Those guys were heavily out armed and they were able to hold their home fort pretty well for about 15 years now. Look at vietnam we got our asses handed to us
Are you retarded? The k/d ratio for both those wars is insane, over 10 to 1.
>>712145626
>can be arrested without cause, trial, or jury.
What are you even talking about? Do you know what an arrest is?
>>712144471
Asses kicked? You're going to have a pretty hard time actually finding an engagement that the US military has lost since Korea.
The only reason that there are any Iraqis or Afghans or Vietnamese left are because we didn't try to destroy them as a people.
The US pays for wars with money, everyone else pays with blood. Either you bleed enough and give up, or we spend enough money and decide to go home.
but can ryan really take away medicare and ss?
trump promised not to cut them
>>712134516
It will be welfare and food stamps first nigger. Along with nationwide Stop and Frisk.
Enjoy.
>>712141356
Damn he said niggers are antiques
>>712134516
yawn. been hearing this for the last forty years.
>>712141176
You are such a whiny entitled bitch get the fuck over it. It's four years, try again in 2020
>>712134887
yet?
>>712135102
yawn
>>712135143
yawn
>>712135584
yawn
>>712135702
yawn
>>712135451
Fuck off ancap faggot
>>712136083
yawn
>>712136220
yawn
>>712139636
yawn
>>712134516
its time to deport non working millennials.
>>712142190
Such a fine defense against tyranny, faggot.
>Pic Related
I just want to thank usa for the entertainment. I wish they had more guns. When cops shoot niggers is the best!
>>712145123
yet anyways.
>>712141176
>He's made bigoted statements, shown a distinct lack of understanding for international politics (e.g. his view of NATO), etc. etc.
Fuck you he's made bigotted statements. Only by the standards of regressive fucks. Calling a judge who thinks he's a mexican a mexican isn't racism.
And NATO nations should goddamn pay what they're supposed to according to the charter. That's what he's said. Real simple fix on that. Increase defense spending.
>>712141176
>(Or the 1.1 million people who no value, per the current popular count. Thanks to one relic of the 3/5ths compromise/slavery, the electoral college.)
This is one of the very reasons the electoral college was made dumbshit.
Working. As. Intended.
>>712134516
Ammo is even harder to get now in Cali.
>>712143259
It's not really that hard to make moonshine, especially if a bunch of sister fisting rednecks can do it. And selling said alcohol is pretty illegal without the proper licenses and junk. Not nearly as lucrative as it would be if alcohol was entirely illegal but at least decently profitable.
Jesus fucking Christ you're all spastic idiots...
>>712134516
its funny OP. the democrats lost in 2000 pushing gun control. now they lost again.
will they ever learn ?????????????
>>712135641
i'm 52 and have been here a decade and more...
>>712136275
>Just like the car market does.
>Cars weren't required by law to come with abs up until 2012, and guess what? It was hard to find a car without abs.
look up "Ford Pinto" and watch the videos and read the backgrount to that story.
Then read "unsafe at any speed" and come back educated.
Car lobby has for decades tried to prevent regulation of cars for safety and economy and environmental impact - because they made more profit by making unsafe gas guzzlers.
government regulation and consumer lobbying (and superior japanese and European imports which were made under better regulated governments) almost killed the American car industry until they were forced to adapt to better standards.
but don't kid yourself it was self regulation or any beneficent motive.
>>712138479
because of course computers are designed to kill people. and are used to kill thousands of people a year and maim tens of thousands more - and four year olds kill each other with them, and their parents. And suicides keep blowing their heads off with those high speed CPUs, adn doing in their kids with the big capacity hard drives.
Yeah, that is a great analogy... fuck off faggot
>>712140044
>It's a cluster fuck of retarded ideas posted by retards with no gun knowledge.
so why don't people with "gun knowledge" come up with a sensible plan?
Why not say all handguns are illegal - they are used in most shootings - and all rifles other than (specify sensible hunting rifle) and specify useful shotgun.... all other weapons, you want to lay with them then you have to do so in a controlled place - because there is no reason for having them in your home or school or street or yard....
easy...
>>712141087
try living n a country with a sensible gun law - like France or the UK for a while - not only are guns hard to come by (maybe only one shop in a large town, and you need a licence and a lot of paperwork) but also there is almost no gun crime, no suicides, no murder suicides, no armed robbery, no... the list goes on...
really. in a civilised society that has realised that the government does not need to be threatened with shooting in order to do its job, people don't make guns, print guns, keep guns, want guns. it is very liberating...
>>712141176
actually, if you want to get excited against Trump the one thing that he is really going to fuck up that really matters, is the climate. he will fuck the world. not just USA. he has already appointed climate change deniers and his VP wants to burn more coal. That is the one good reason to resist Trump, the rest is just window dressing...
>>712134887
You are fucking idiot who obviously has no clue what they are talking about. Back to the kids table you cretin.
>>712141805
One is a treasoning wall street puppet who gets money from enemies of the US, supported all the US policies in the middle-east, wants open war with ISIS and to pour troops into the middle east again, wants to give Russia power and influence, and is so corrupt even the chaos gods would tell him to slow the fuck down.
fixed it for you.
Trump is more corrupt than Hillary ever was (and that is saying something) At least Clinton turned down the offer of $2million from the Chinese to buy influence - which Trump accepted... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/24/exclusive-investigation-donald-trump-faces-foreign-donor-fundrai/
>>712142190
>It's about being able to protect yourself from the government. A well armed citizenry is the first line of defense against tyranny. If only the government had guns then the monopoly of power would lend itself to corruption very quickly.
you mean like every civilised country in the world?
you are so brainwashed. So sad. You think only your guns hold your country together, and prevent tyranny - such a sad world view.
and it is worth the thousands of lives lost a year - because you have never needed those guns to confront your government and never will...
>>712142268
yeah, and the USA is just ripe for invasion isn't it? look at all those other countries just itching to invade, and ot is only Johnny reb adn the Good Ol boys having guns that stops them from doing it
pathetic excuse for having a penis extension.
>>712142702
you are giving up to a gun state - to a warzone. America has ceased to be a civilised country.
>>712142752
yes, and they kept slaves and burned witches.
so?
times change.
>>712134938
Anti-kids getting slaughtered isn't necessarily anti-gun
>>712142849
German roads have crash barriers as well - in faact I think they were the first in the world to introduce them. But also, while there is no speed limit, there is a law that says you cannot drive dangerously - people speeding in fog, rain or even when the traffic is heavy can be arrested.
>>712143079
but not smarter than my ass, and I agree witht eh autist.
stop worshipping the words of men who dies 200 years ago - that way lies homeopathy and phlogiston.
>>712143259
>intelligence rules society always
says someone who doesn't understand how the regulated market for gun sales would decrease the availability of guns on the black market...
>>712143264
>Is that not good?
only if you are an excellent driver who understands that you should always be able to stop in the distance you can see is clear, adn who understands that every side road, gateway and junction is a potential hazard to be driven past at a speed under which you can avoid any idiot that pulls out. which basically means that if you do 140 on road off the highway you are a fucking maniac and need your head kicked.
>>712145203
>So in some states, yes they have already taken people's rights to bear arms.
no they have taken away the right to bear any and all arms (which you don't have anyway) and they still encourage you to join a well regulated militia. You want to play with guns - Join the National Guard. That is what the constitution was meant to encourage. The right to bear arms as a member of a well regulated militia.
>>712134516
Clinton would have wanted to privatize social security too. They're both fucking scum capitalists.
ITT: Numerous immature faggots that could care less about Social Security and Medicare. You're are really going regret that shit down to road.
>>712156082
Fuck
Off
S J W
this isnt yuor site
>>712145628
ah, is baby's wittle feeeling hurt by big bad man with words? Poor baby...
>>712156082
What proof do yo have of that?
Trump and Ryan plan to do it for sure.
>>712146969
could die of old age before that happens - gun porn myth...
>>712156254
Her husband tried to do it and failed and she has expressed that she would do the same but in other terms.
>>712156146
probably a 28 year old reddit reject that has shitty facial hair
>>712150387
>Working. As. Intended.
nope. It was intended to be an independent body of rational men who would select a good president and refuse to elect a demagogue who had seduced the public vote but was clearly unfit for the office.
working as intended is if they dump Trump, and select someone else - not necessarily Clinton... but she won the popular vote...
>>712135051
>>712155517
This. I read some interesting stuff about Australia -- now buying a semi-automatic gun (not even fully automatic) costs around $15,000 on the blackmarket there.
>>712135051
Yea, not allowing the government to consolidate power is so "weird" whatever you say eurocuck
>>712135584
>No one has, or wants to, "regulate away" your guns
Oh really? Ever heard of Diane Finestein? Here is TWO gems of her's.
"If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them... 'Mr. and Mrs. America, turn 'em all in,' I would have done it."
"We have federal regulations and state laws that prohibit hunting ducks with more than three rounds. And yet it's legal to hunt humans with 15-round, 30-round, even 150-round magazines."
>>712135051
>literally shaking
>>712136083
When was the last school fire?
You probably don't remember. Any reason why that is? Is it because we made sure fire doesn't exist in the hands of the public? No, its because we took the necessary precautions to ensure that schools are protected from fire. Why is that such a strange concept for shootings?
>>712154155
Becuase getting rid of my personal right to carry a firearm for protection concealed on my body is exclusive to handguns. Maybe tell your nigger pets to stop shooting people, liberal
>>712154413
>really. in a civilised society that has realised that the government does not need to be threatened with shooting in order to do its job, people don't make guns, print guns, keep guns, want guns. it is very liberating...
except that the UK has had the same amount of mass shootings before and after the gun regulations. Stay cucked friendo
>>712155024
Well being that more people were slaughtered in about 4 years by their own german government. Then 100 years of murders in the U.S. I would say Tyranny is a problem.
>>712136349
>gun owners just want to stop being hassled for almost no reason
You mean to stop innocent people being gunned down because no one stopped retards from having a gun?
>>712158897
>hassled for almost no reasonYou mean to stop innocent people being gunned
The problem is nobody considers themselves a retard.. and in a country like the US where every kid is given a gun at the age of 6.. well.. more retards have guns - and then you have school shootings every week. And somehow the idiots think *more* guns is the solution.
