Where were you when you realize it's a rigged system?
>she gets the most votes
>doesn't get elected
>we call this a """democracy"""
#NotMyPresident
>>711830779
We are a Republic, not a Democracy.
>>711832086
This
>>711831949
Mostly this, we're a democratic republic. A pure democracy is a bad idea
>>711830779
>I could've won the popular vote if I needed to
Topkek I love Trump
>>711832393
truth
though pure democracy for a single head of state seems reasonable.
honestly parliamentary systems are better.
and a hardwired constitution sucks too. needs to change faster (but then again I'm a progressive and change is the name of the game)
>>711830779
if it were a popular vote based system, smaller states, and more rural areas would have absolutely no say against the hippy leftists.
>>711830779
>what is a representative democracy
Instead of walking out of schools, you should've taken up a text book and learned some stuff about the country you were born in.
>>711832576
What don't you like about the constitution?
Also, there is an ideal system possible, once we're there would you still want change?
>>711830779
>>we call this a """democracy"""
NO WE DON'T, IT'S A REPUBLIC DUMBASS
>>711830779
rejected canadate from 8 years ago to DNC nominee again? of course its rigged
>>711832892
B-but she's a womyn
>>711830779
Where the fuck have you been? Where were you when it happened to Gore? Oh that's right you weren't born yet.
YES HE IS YOUR FUCKING PRESIDENT BECAUSE HE GOT ELECTED FUCKING LIVE WITH IT SJW CUCK
>>711830779
The electoral college is pretty dumb for the president since the Senate already protects the less populous states. That said it's too late now to boot Trump.
>>711832663
That's why the Senate exists, every state gets two senators no matter the population
>>711830779
Constitutional Republic NOT A FUCKING DEMOCRACY.
Holy fuck common core failed America.
The system worked PERFECTLY. A bunch of cry baby California millennials didn't get to decide who the ENTIRE nation picks for President.
>>711832393
No a democratic republic, constitutional republic.
>>711830779
>this penis party's got to go
>hey hey, ho ho
>>711833307
We've seen denial, anger, bargaining, and depression
Are they finally reaching the acceptance stage?
Also the idea of electoral college is we are not a single state, but 50 with different laws that are united for a common purpose
>>711831949
We are an Oligarchy, but still stands that it's not a Democracy
>>711832576
Change is the name of the game.......
smh, change for the sake of change isn't some great idea. Our constitutional is very much relevant to this day and age and honestly, the framers were EXTREMELY intelligent to craft a constitution that is still applicable.
>>711833625
A democratic republic is where we vote for our representatives, how are we not that?
it's actually a democratic republic
#TrumpIsMyPresident
It's all over now, stop bitching you fucking fat cocklicker
>>711833696
>Also the idea of electoral college is we are not a single state, but 50 with different laws that are united for a common purpose
That's what congress is for dumbass.
>>711833684
>Don't judge by skin color!
>Death to the cheeto!
Their unintentional irony is astounding
>>711833867
Its both but the final basis of governance is our constitution. You're not exactly wrong your terminology is just wrong.
>>711833964
We have three branches dipshit.
Having just half of one to give all states opinions isn't enough
>>711833867
We are really a Constitutional Democratic Republic but the democratic is pointless because its assumed in the republic part.
>>711830779
Constitutional republic, not a democracy. Autist.
>>711834259
Neither the people nor the states vote on Supreme Court members. Also the representatives aren't proportional to population, favoring smaller states.
>>711830779
>alternate universe where Hilary Clinton wins the electoral vote and Trump wins the popular vote
>liberals: this is why the electoral college is important! to keep the stupid masses from voting for a racist sexist fascist like Trump!
You know this is true libcuck so shut your fucking mouth you crybaby shit
>>711834657
I never said they were.
And no they don't favor small states, they're appointed by presidents who are often democratic and tend to favor more populous areas.
Nigger
>>711834822
To be fair Trump did win the uneducated voters
>>711834962
Only if you count gender studies as "educated"
>>711834933
>implying the president appoints the representatives
Are you retarded?
>>711835055
>implying gender studies is the only degree you can get at university
How's work at McDonald's?
>>711834037
it's making fun of his makeup. no one is naturally the color he is. god damn, you're stupid.
>>711830779
Oh because she rigged nothing at all this election, right?
Fuck you, cunt. She lost an election that was rigged WAY before this, and in her favor.
>>711832892
Um Trump is a formerly rejected cantidate as well....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_presidential_campaign,_2000
>>711834962
Not even american but at this point judging by the state of your colleges and universities being educated is a bad thing
>>711833144
And I'm sure you just rolled over when Obama was elected and didn't cry.... "but my whites, and kenya"
>>711830779
>>711830779
>>711830779
The system was rigged in her favor and she STILL lost, hahahahahahahahahahahaha
aaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
>>711835569
It's like a reality show where they bring back past contestant who lost to redeem themselves
>>711835608
Are you retarded?
The US has the best universities in the world.
>>711833625
You are right, a bunch of meth addicted, food stamp using hilbillies did. I'm pretty sure I'd prefer the popular vote, you know so everyone counts the same....
>>711835080
HE appoints the supreme court.
You couldn't have been possibly referring to HoR? They're 100% population representatives
>>711833696
>Also the idea of electoral college is we are not a single state, but 50 w
Yeah, but we stopped being that a long time ago when the federal government took control.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supremacy_Clause
>>711833849
Except the second ammendment. That one is really fucking stupid. We needed that in the days of ball and musket when we had no standing army, but now it is abused to arm whackos. Really, it says it right there "A well regulated militia" and yet we cannot get any regulation because "muh guns!!!"
>>711835273
Angry libcuck detected
How does it feel being triggered by everything?
>>711835244
>implying gender studies majors don't have a heavy liberal bias
Did you not take any actual political or sociological classes? Did your college decide it was too "oppressive"?
>>711835677
Alot of these liberal crybabies are saying the right did the same thing when Obama was elected in both terms.
They didnt. Not anywhere NEAR this scale. Literal in tears, safe spaces, classes being cancelled, etc.
Keep believin lies though; you CHILDREN seem to be good at that.
>>711834037
The idea is this: Dont judge by things that people were born with.
Trump was not born orange.
>>711835862
For stem, not the gender studies bullshit
>>711835569
you seem to not understand the word rejected nor have the ability to read your own link
>>711834259
I think you might be the dipshit. Congress refers to both sides of the Legislative branch. The sides are referred to as the House and the Senate.
>>711830779
>itt children are learning that the USA isn't really a democracy
But you're not even listing the right reasons. Our Primary election system is the most broken part. Primaries decide who will run for president by direct vote. However, our delegates are not all required to vote for the same candidate as who the people vote for. Superdelegates are allowed to vote for anyone they want. They're not required to vote for the candidate with the highest vote by the general population. Superdelegates make up roughly 15% of the DNC. They exist to prevent 3rd party or outsider candidates from winning. This shit is totally undemocratic. The shit show that is the primary election race is also heavily influenced by the media and institutions that are currently in power.
>>711835864
Niggers and spics largely vote Democrat dumbass
>>711830779
You weren't complaing before the election, right? And yes, it's still a democratic system. You and others vote someone who then votes in your name with others for the president.
>>711836202
I'm not a libcuck faggot. I'm just pointing out his stupidity.
>>711835902
I know that's what I said, that's good means you're learning.
There are a max of 435 representatives with each state getting at least one so some smaller states get more than they should if it were perfectly proportional.
Please pay attention in Civics class.
>>711835388
I dont think you know what rigged means....
>>711835996
The idea of 50 United States has never left though
"Democracy", OP I learned the U.S. is not a democracy in 8th grade social studies.
I hope you're trolling and you know this. . .
>>711836372
I take the work "rejected" in this context to mean was not elected by the US population. In 2000, when Donald Trump ran for president, he lost. He is a loser.
Final tally had trump winning the popular.
>>711836781
It's a representative democracy.
>>711836173
Because criminals won't use guns if they're illegal, right?
Why don't we just make murder illegal?
Also, there is no significant correlation between gun control and murder rates. Countries that have implemented it see a spike in murder rates for a few years then go back to just higher than normal. Almost as if someone wants to kill someone, they'll do it, with or without a gun.
>>711836202
>Did you not take any actual political or sociological classes? Did your college decide it was too "oppressive"?
If I were a poly-Sci major yes but I'm a physics major. Plenty of majors have no political bias, it's just that educated people tend to be liberal because they're not retarded.
>>711836921
source?
>>711836209
Not a child... although this is 4-chan..
You are partially right. There is a reason for the discrepancy though. When Obama was elected he did not make campaign promised that would be disastrous for our country and contrary to our constitution and values as a nation. Do you even see the difference? Obama ran on Hope, Trump ran on hate... are you starting to see now? No. We'll I should have know as much.
>>711836954
>everyone that has a different opinion is retarded
That's where the education system and your parents failed you
>>711836316
>implying gender studies is even close to the same size as STEM fields in terms of number of students
wittle babys upset awwwwww
Regressive voters are so ignorant on the political process. That's why the Republicans have the House, Senate, Presidency, and soon the Supreme Court. . .
The key regressives are missing? Midterm elections. . . Why do they never show up to vote in the midterms then complain about the House and Senate being majority republican?
>>711836935
you're right. although for reasons you probably don't understand.
>>711837093
>taking shit said on /b/ seriously
It's called exaggeration you retard, sorry I triggered you
>>711833684
Kek, great movie. It's ironic because people bitch about PC influence at colleges now like it was just invented. Apparently it was strong enough in the early/mid nineties to make a satire on the whole deal.
>>711836464
There is a reason for that. Republicans still believe that this country "belongs" to whites. That is not only racist and exclusive, it is wrong. It has never been true. This country belongs to anyone who is willing to align their values with those of America and work to make it a better place. Notice I said better place, not a whiter place. Move to Russia if you love white people so much.
>>711837087
>Trump ran on hate
No he ran on the fuel caused by the failed liberal propaganda.
Wanting immigrants to follow the law isn't racist.
Banning potential terrorists until a better vetting process is made isn't racist.
Liberal propaganda would like you to think otherwise though and people are starting to realize this
>>711837337
It does belong to whites. Get the fuck out darkies and shitskins.
You US faggots still don't let your territories vote for the president.
>>711836622
Its only been 50 for a short time.... Alaska and HI were just added... you know historically speaking.
>>711837252
This. I'm liberal and I fucking despise the regressive left. Too busy being triggered to focus on actual issues.
>>711837383
>Wanting immigrants to follow the law isn't racist.
>Banning potential terrorists until a better vetting process is made isn't racist.
Get your facts and rational thought out of here!
>>711836810
No, Criminal Clinton is the loser
>>711837337
So niggers should get out?
>>711831949
/thread
>OP
>>711836935
Actually this is not at all true. Look at murder rates in the UK. Gun control can and does work. Murder rates in Austrailia?
>>711836404
And only half of that (the Senate) represents the states
>>711837612
its ok you have enough stabbings to make up for it
hahahah you can't even carry knives
>>711830779
Trump wins all states majority votes BUT about 6
Somehow doesnt get more votes
>also obama beat hillary with less votes
Ignoring illegals voting for hillary and double voting allowed and encouraged by democrats and vote personnel
>>711837455
We already have enough Puerto Ricans voting in New York
>>711837612
its a good thing that cities with the strongest gun laws dont have the most gun crime or anything
wait.....
>>711835996
Supremacy clause actually supports the electoral college because the electoral college was established in the constitution.
>>711835244
Thinking people who go to uni don't end up working as a faux journalist or in the fast food industry
You crack me up m9
>>711837337
>people with American values only
Why do you insist on letting Muslims flood through our gates then?
>>711836450
Primaries are not governed by the Federal government, Parties are private entities choosing a candidate internally. PROTIP: they can do whatever they want.
>>711837383
Actual racists love Trump. The KKK approved him. Past presidents have denounced things like this. Trump was totally silent. Not to mention referring to Mexicans in totally racist ways.
Trump was also a condescending bully in the debates. Everything about him said he was an asshole.
But I admit that many people voted for him just because Hillary is so untrustworthy. Many of those people were perfectly rational adults. They were just voting for the lesser evil.
Sure, it's not fair, it should be changed to a straight up majority vote.
However, the election was run as it has always been run, if Hillary had won, none of you would have a word to say about the electoral college. Where was the demands for change before the election? I agree the college should be changed or even scrapped, however you can't change the rules to get the result you want after the fact.
>>711837612
Yeah but there's already too many guns here to enact gun control. Plus if it happens you'll have a bunch of illegals trafficking (more) guns. They're already trafficking drugs and humans.
That's why we need the fucking wall. Not to stop them stealing jobs but to stop the cartels from human trafficking.
>>711830779
You should read the constitution of the country you live in. Then politics won't be such a "shocker"
>>711837739
Sauce please
>>711830779
The DNC wants to blame the electoral college?
DWS and HRC rigged, and were even exposed on rigging through emails, the democratic primary.
They though they could fuck their supporters out of the popular candidate BERNIE, and lost as a result.
Fuck them. Fuck Trump too, but whatever has happened, he is president, and I hope he keeps back tracking on all the stupid bullshit he said and actually improves things.
>>711836558
And you think because we can't have 0.152 of a person that means it's biased for rural areas? I think it's you that needs to go to school.
>>711837891
Those points only further add to my argument about it being undemocratic. So I suppose you can also say it is unconstitutional?
>>711837849
Most people who go to university aren't art majors
>>711837928
trump only referred to the criminals in bad ways. He noted in many speeches that most were fine people.
>>711836548
Libcuck
>>711835677
At least the republicans didnt go riot in the fucking streets like a bunch of niggers when Obama got elected
>>711830779
It's because of your "butthurt" attitude that Hillary didn't win. Grow up. The system had been in place for years. Learn to lose Libtard.
>>711838125
I fucking hate cucks and niggers. God damn it.
>>711837264
What reasons all-knowing one?
>>711830779
#noonegivesafuck
>>711836929
republic with democratic aspects and ideals
>>711836954
There's benefits and drawbacks to both liberal and conservative. Neither is a catch-all for best political views. Furthermore, I'd love some backup on your claim that educated people tend to be liberal, as most people I know with more than undergrad degrees are more conservative. I fall somewhere in the middle, leaning toward fiscal conservative/social liberal libertarian.
>>711838071
Do you know what 100% proportional means?
They're votes mathematically count for more than someone's from say California. That's bias.
>>711837928
What does a racist organization having a common interest to a politician imply? Nothing
I could care less about what the KKK does and what they like, being a latino. I dont recall listening to any outright insult towards mexicans, he is a dumbass who lacks a smooth tongue but he has legitimate solutions for problems libtards are promoting, since they either lack or dont want to know about the consecuences it has
>>711837337
Yeah except that's not why the niggers and spics vote blue. It's because that's the party that will give them the most money and programs to attempt to fix their self induced problems. It has never worked and it will never work. It just keeps them poor on purpose. It's what it was designed to do. That and keep them voting blue
>>711830779
>#NotMyPresident
This isnt fucking twitter. Go kill yourself.
>>711837383
>No he ran on the fuel caused by the failed liberal propaganda.
>Wanting immigrants to follow the law isn't racist.
>Banning potential terrorists until a better vetting process is made isn't racist.
>Liberal propaganda would like you to think otherwise though and people are starting to realize this
If you actually believe this I feel sorry for you. He ran on right wing propaganda. Can you please inform me about what liberal propaganda is?
No wanting immigrants to follow the law is not racists. It is also not in the Republicans best interests. Do you have any idea how many of our farming jobs (hired by Republicans) are done by Mexicans? It's pretty close to all of them. Trump wont do shit about it once he is actually informed about how farming works.
Here is the problem with "extreme vetting". The people that are coming here are already vetted. It is generally not them that commit the mass murders (notable exception 9-11). It is their dumb fuck kids. Shoe bomber, night club bomber, Ft. Hood, etc....
>>711838190
they are too stupid to have much passion
>>711837612
I'm talking about before and after gun bans from several different countries. Comparing two different countries is biased by culture, laws, poverty, etc.
There is a strong correlation between poverty and murder rates, and very little correlation between gun bans and murder rates.
>>711837612
UK murder rate .9
Australia murder rate 1.3
US murder rate 3.9
Still no where near Mexico, Brazil, and the like where there is a near absolute gun ban and have murder rates in the 20s and 30s.
Let's try not to move the goal posts when you respond. No "but that's a 3rd world country" or "but those countries don't count" - it makes your position weak if you can't defend your viewpoints within the context you set.
>>711837517
Yes, Hillary Clinton did lose the electoral college vote. She did lose this presidential election.
That was not the point of this line of thought though. Do I have to spell it out for you?
>>711838430
Good, Cali is full of retards who just want to live a life with 0 worries and consequences for their actions
>>711830779
Consider this.
If Clinton and the Democrat party didn't OWN the media via corporation contributions, and if that OWNED and BIASED media didn't report how impossible Trump's chances were for the past year, and if they didn't say that Clinton was the guaranteed 95% winner on election day, do you think Trump may have actually won the popular vote? I'd be willing to be at least 5 million Trump supporters / independents stayed home because they were suppressed by the media shoving Clinton's victory numbers down their throats since last year.
>>711835902
It's fair to note that the senate has to confirm the nomination -- it's sort of the balance for that process.
>>711837517
Also it is not nice to call someone a criminal after they have served our country for 25+ years and have never been convicted of anything wrong. Never convicted even though republifags have been looking under every rock for the past 15 years. You might want to use your brain and realize that if they cannot find any wrongdoing after all those years of looking, maybe they are just bitter assholes who are afraid of strong, intelligent, capable women making them look like idiots.
>>711837928
>the KKK
They've killed less people in the past 40 years than blm OR Islamic terrorists have in the past year. Both of the latter largely prefer Clinton too.
>>711832663
That is an ignorant and quite frankly a herpderp statement.
>>711838402
Nobody gives a shit about your anecdotal evidence.
http://dabacon.org/pontiff/?p=539
>>711838600
Hence the Australia comment.... do you even read?
>>711830779
America is a republic, though.
>>711838271
The countries with little gun control yet low gun crime are special for other reasons. Some have mandatory military service for all adults, which teach them proper training in handling firearms. Many were blessedly free of niggers, a.k.a. an underclass, until recent years. I know they've seen a rise in crime since they started letting in so many Muslims and niggers.
Also, crime in the USA has nothing to do with guns. It has everything to do with the oligarchy keeping the underclasses poor yet just content enough not to overthrow them. They mostly contain them within ghettos and let them do whatever they want inside them. That is where the vast majority of crime occurs.
>>711837649
Ummm.. Are you actually a 10 year old? Both sides of the Congress represent the states. One is based on proportional representation by population and the other is fixed representation with 2 Senators per state.
Do you even USA?
>>711838824
Also has the largest economy in the US and requires the least amount of government aid. Do you know which states rely on aid? Mostly Republican, Texas being an exception.
>>711838677
These systems are not very strong and corrupt as shit. That's why it doesn't work (yet - I am an optimist)
>>711838539
What right wing propaganda?
>>711830779
she cheated to get more votes, committed voter fraud in large numbers, someone voted as huma abedin on video..... she wont demand a recount because she knows about the fraud
>>711837739
It should not be able state. it should be about individual votes, total popular count. You do know that of the ~350 Million people in the US most live in California, Florida, New York, Texas right?
>>711830779
This is real fucking simple. It's the United States of America. The states vote for the president. The people in the states vote for what way the state's should vote. Except Montana and Maine iirc. If you don't like that protesting the election result is useless. Protest at your state capital to have your state change the winner take all electoral vote system to one that splits up the vote by voting district. It's real simple since your state amount of votes are determined by already existing congressional and Senate districts.
And don't forget to go back in time first so your efforts would matter.
>>711837765
Puerto Ricans can vote in PR...
>>711838509
I guess we'll see. I actually approve of some of what he says. But becoming isolationist is bad for everyone in the long run. If we let our profits from globalization sputter out then things are going to go to shit.
>>711839519
Except we don't profit from it.
>>711839268
>Still has to move goalposts to try to win
>b.b.but those countries are corrupt! That's why gun control doesn't work!
So, no valid counterarguement like I said would happen.
>>711837878
Who says that I am insisting on letting muslims flood anywhere? They happen to be flooding our of Syria right now, but dont worry, we wont help any. Thanks Trump.
>>711838914
This has to be bait.
She admitted to having a private server for work related things.
The FBI admitted there were classified material there.
Wikileaks proved she knew it was illegal and even deleted some evidence herself.
Of course someone in her position can cover up criminal activities as well.
>>711839611
The rich profit from it. And we survive on their crumbs.
>>711839453
This. I'm sure the 1/3 of voters in California who voted trump would've loved some state based representation in this election.
An estimated 3 million illegals voted and they probably didn't vote Trump. She got her ass kicked bad.
>>711830779
She got popular vote because over 3 million illegals voted for her.
>>711839619
I feel bad for all those Syrians who helps us during Katrina and 9/11.
>>711830779
Bait for sure but. Take this into consideration "According to Greg Phillips of the VoteFraud.org organization, there have been over three million votes that were cast by people who shouldn’t be voting in the slightest. “We have verified more than three million votes cast by non-citizens. We are joining @TrueTheVote to initiate legal action. #unrigged.” " AKA Trump also won the legal popular vote.
>>711838073
Um... the government doesnt control everything. This is not China.... yet.
>>711839808
>>711839822
So this is the new conspiracy theory? Pathetic.
>>711839050
That is one country. Some countries go higher in murder rates after gun bans, some go lower. Gun control has little correlation. Do you even research?
>>711839456
Well that's where you're wrong buddy boy.
They're not a part of the electoral college.
>>711839808
Source? I need this to be true!
All you asstards that are bitching about how undemocratic the election system is realize that even if it was changed to a true democracy (with popular vote deciding), that wouldn't happen until at least next election. You're stuck with Trump. Deal with it.
America's made it through plenty of shitty leaders, and honestly, Trump's not even bad in the ways that really matter. He has a hot temper and the racism you'd expect from a guy his age, but that's what the rest of the fucking government is there to keep in check.
>>711830779
>the system which was perfectly fine for myself for a long time does not fit my current beliefs, so it has to be replaced
>>711840035
You know it's not true. That's vote fraud on obscenely never before seen levels.
>>711839456
No, we dont
>>711839199
Nigger yes they're divided by states, yes HoR is biased for populated states
>>711840035
It was on VoteFraud.org
>>711839876
Consider you have to be a citizen to register, consider not being retarded.
>>711840019
With 20 million willing to break the law to come here. And few states with any laws requiring you to prove you are a citizen how does this sound far fetched to you?
>>711830779
OP, I hope you're happy with your 2 sheckels recieved after doing this shit piece of propaganda
Kill yourself
>also cancer hashtag
>>711839914
Were trying to keep it that way. That's why we voted trump
>>711836810
hillary dumped twice! even when cheating! BWAAAHAHAHAHAHA
>>711840306
I will say he's more old-school republican, which is nice. Smaller government is better government.
>>711839616
Alright. It's not valid because it counters your opinion. Have a nice day, sir (faggot)
>>711838430
You can't have it be perfectly proportional. I was kidding about fractions of humans. That's not possible.
>>711840252
You have to prove you're a citizen when you register you nincompoop
>>711840433
Yep.
>>711830779
If there was a popular vote system, the campaigns would be totally differen and the voting habbits. No one can tell the outcome of the election with a different system.
>#NotMyPresident
But he is, deal with it or gtfo
>>711840177
Never before checked levels. If voters don't have to prove they are citizens how do we have any way of knowing all 20 million illegals don't vote? We don't. We'd have no fucking clue. But some how we are suppose to except that illegals wouldn't vote in our elections because that would just be wrong?
>>711840512
Exactly my point you nimrod.
>>711839181
That's what I said earlier: poverty is the cause, not guns.
>>711838190
http://www.salon.com/2016/03/15/the_rights_hypocrisy_on_trump_protesters_it_was_only_ok_when_the_tea_party_was_crashing_obamacare_meetings/
They did though.
>>711839692
Are you going to touch on the fact that in all, but the last, of the email investigations she was cleared of, the spokestwat for the investigation admitted she did nothing different than previous people in her position, including Republicans?
Nope. Didn't think so.
So stop your yabbering and forget all about it if you won't look at the entire picture, instead of doing the liberal cherry picking of facts to suit your bandwagon.
TLDR: STFU you're no better than a fucking libtard.
>>711840566
YOU HAVE TO PROVE YOU'RE A CITIZEN TO REGISTER YOU FUCKING DIPSHITS
>>711840214
I went to the website, which got redirected to electionnightgatekeepers.com
Their idea of proof is that the vote counting process is MYSTERIOUS. Thus it must be counting votes wrong. Just because...
>>711840566
How the fuck would all these illegals even know the names and addresses of all the people who didn't show up to vote? That's too insane to even consider as a possibility.
>>711837087
>When Obama was elected he did not make campaign promised that would be disastrous for our country and contrary to our constitution and values as a nation.
Neither did Trump? What, deporting people who are illegally here and doing crime here is a bad idea? Unamerican somehow? Not wanting people from a place where radicals are bred to hate us to immigrate here is bad? Unamerican somehow? Fuck, just spewing stupid stuff doesn't work mate you gotta show something for it.
>>711840711
I didn't read any posts before that one cause i'm a pro 4chan debater.
>>711840252
False. I registered in arizona by checking a box when transferring my drivers license. And I never had to provide a birth certificate. Also once registered I got a card you could make at kinkos that has no photo on it. And never had to provide a photo ID when voting to prove I was who the card said I was.
>>711839841
We never asked for help during Katrina.
Thanks Bush.
>>711840566
You have never voted, have you, kid?
>>711840514
No you dont
>>711840019
I do and you are right that the relationship to gun bans and violence is complicated and largely not understood.
That is not an argument against sensible gun control laws.
>>711840786
Nope. You register at the BMV with your license stuff. You don't even need a SSN for that anymore. Some states don't even require that you show ID when going in to the polls.
>>711840458
Do you even know what that f word means! ? You're just as bad as the uneducated Trump supporters!
>>711840786
No you don't. When people try to pass laws requiring that we are told it's racist because niggers are to poor to afford a photo id
>>711839876
>bait for sure but. Take this into consideration "According to Greg Phillips of the VoteFraud.org organization, there have been over three million votes that were cast by people who shouldn’t be voting in the slightest. “We have verified more than three million votes cast by non-citizens. We are joining @TrueTheVote to initiate legal action. #unrigged.” " AKA Trump also won the legal popular vote.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL....
Good luck with that. Get some more evidence than "According to Greg Phillips" and we'll talk.
>>711839199
are you literally retarded
>>711841060
There is no good argument for gun control, because it's all made up horse shit.
Don't worry though, Trump n' crew are going to make sure no one touches the 2nd ever again.
>>711840028
Reading comprehension. I never said they could vote for president! It is true that they can vote in PR. It is also true that they do not get to cast a vote for President.
>>711840178
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_voting_rights_in_Puerto_Rico
>>711830779
The American electoral system is actually very clever, without it each party could simply focus entirely on the most heavily populated areas while neglecting the rest of the country.
>>711841136
Why are you on /b/ if you can't stand insults / trolls? Go back to tumblr already.
>>711840306
You do know that is not what you will get with him right? He is going to try to turn this country into Western Russia. Oligarchy unite!
>>711840786
there was some mexican chick caught in texas who voted 5 fucking times for shillary. she wasnt even a US citizen.
>>711830779
We weren't designed to be a two party system. In fact, America wasn't designed to have political parties at all. The electoral college didn't fail us, we failed the electoral college.
>>711840735
Just because others do it doesn't mean it's OK.
Someone in the navy took a picture of his ship's chambers and was sentenced 10 years for mishandling classified information.
Clinton gets nothing.
Nixon deleted 12 minutes of audio that was recorded in a private organization and he was impeached.
Clinton deleted 33,000 emails and she's the democratic nominee
>>711840879
Try reinstate "Stop and Frisk" (Ruled unconstitutional by the way).
Trade wars.
Ban the immigrants..
all of these things will be either disastrous or are contrary to our values as a nation.
>>711841100
Even if they don't require an ID they still ask for one and expect you to know the name and address of a person who hasn't voted yet.
Exactly how could an illegal get this extremely important information? Information that would have to be constantly updated in real time as people vote.
Do you know how crackbrained and insane it sounds to for them to get access to that information?
If such a thing were actually happening on such a huge scale as to allow so many fraudulent votes then someone would fucking notice and leak it to the media.
>>711841582
Malcolm /b/
>>711840963
I'm 36, and I've voted in many elections.
>>711840786
But not all poling facilities require ID. Which is why Clinton sees spikes areas with higher amounts of illegals.
>>711841283
There are lot of good arguments for gun control They usually stem from the idea that one person should not be able to wield enough destruction to slaughter an entire cinema of people and silly little things like that. Guns for sport... sure. Guns for survival... sure. Guns for mass murder, not so much.
>>711841165
Their evidence is that the process is a "black box"
It is a MYSTERIOUS system using a MYSTERIOUS process that is undoubtedly corrupted.
>>711841285
We're talking about presidential elections you retard.
>>711830779
>complaining that mob rule doesn't work in America
sage goes in all fields
>>711841684
You don't get it. You can register to vote AS AND ILLEGAL ALIEN. You don't need a social security number to register. You just sign something saying that you promise you're not kidding about being a citizen for realsies. That's it. You need an address (to figure out your precinct) and your name. They literally do it while making changes/renewing your state driver's license.
>>711831949
ALL this.
What these dumbfucks need to realize is that the Federal Government is NOT for the individual citizen. It is an agency for the United States. Each state gets a vote.
Everything will make sense once you realize that it is the individual STATE that gets to contact and work with private citizens. The ORIGINAL INTENT of the Republic is that the Fed.Gov is only to act as an agent for the states in dealing with foreign governments, and to do A FEW things for the states, like post roads, mint currency, Mail, and shit like that.
This also proves that Single Payer (government) healthcare is unConstitutional.
>>711841586
Nixon was impeached for Watergate
>>711839692
Private server is not Illegal. Also many past Secretaries of State did the same thing. Her server was never proven to be hacked. The state department server you want her to be on was hacked 5 times!
The classified material was not marked classified when she received it.
Wikileaks is full of shit.
Someone in her position? What position is that? An appointed senior executive of the Executive branch of the Federal Government? An Original Classification Authority? A legitimate consumer of intelligence products? What the hell do you think the US generates classified information for? It is so that people like the SoS can use it in thier jobs...
I'm dealing with such morons here. I dont know what I expected... You probably listen to Hannity.
>>711841517
Meh. Still better than Europeans getting to dictate actual law in my country and the scrapping of the constitution.
>>711842209
Every time I have done this they required some physical proof that I actually lived in that location. Like a bill with my name and address on it.
These are the people you're talking about?
>>711841579
So she knew the names and addresses of 5 people registered to vote who happened to not vote?
Bullshit
>>711834822
This.
>>711830779
We actually call this a Democratic Republic.
You'd know that if you had passed sixth grade social studies.
Someone who is good at math and wants to waste their time...
What is the largest potential gap a candidate can win the election with but still lose the popular vote? 40/60? Closer than that?
ITS ABOUT SLAVE AND SHIT...THE SOUTHERN STATES NEEDED TO BE KNOW THEIR VOTE WAS NOT WASTED IN A RIGGED ELECTED...THERE WAS MOSTLY SLAVES IN THE SOUTH THEN WHITE VOTERS VOTED IN THE 1800
>>711830779
What did u say about the nigger system?
>>711841887
You have to be registered to be able to vote that's the whole point, and you have to give name and address
>>711835862
>USA
>best education
>half the country doesn't know the ww2 timeline
>schools teach they won the war of 1812
>people still think the articles of the confederacy can be applied
>doctors are completing operations and forgetting shit like scalpels inside the patients
>>711841517
What?
Do people actually believe this?
>>711841684
I never had to show ID when I voted
>>711841670
>Ban immigrants
only the illegal and potential terrorists until a better vetting process
>>711841670
>trade "wars"
America is getting shorthanded
>stop and frisk
He can't implement that by himself
>>711842209
>>711842415
Not to mention that it would be incredibly risky for an illegal to try and trick the official at courthouses across the country. The incentive for taking such a risk would have to make it worthwhile. And you think it would really be so easy for them to fool the people who do this for a living?
Want to know what this really sounds like? It sounds like a crazy fucking conspiracy theory that couldn't possibly be true.
>>711841920
That's a people control measure. Guns didn't do it. A person did. Also...
>cinema
Yeah you don't know what the fuck you're talking about
>>711842415
Yeah, and how many times did you have to prove you were born here? An illegal alien would be registering with their own address, not someone else's (I have no idea why you insist that they would need another address).
>>711830779
Not a democracy faggot. We have a republic because a republic protects minority rights.
>>711842719
>best education
I said best universities you fucking retard.
Learn to fucking read.
wtf..the slaves outnumbered the white voters so the southerm males can up with the electoral college to get their vote to matter in any eledtion
>>711841920
If people in the cinema had guns his tally wouldn't get very high if he tried, and he likely wouldn't try knowing he'd die.
He could make pipe bombs if he wanted to, are you going to ban all chemicals and equipment that can be used for that?
>>711842812
I don't think it is as easy to accomplish as you imagine. Someone like yourself would not be scrutinized at all.
>>711842880
representative democracy
>>711842719
This plus
>they think they live in a democracy
>they think the democrats freed the slaves
>>711841150
This.
"Voter suppression" they say.
Why don't they suggest free id cards for proven citizens if their so worried about that?
>>711843027
-tinfoilhatnigger
>>711843013
Your universities suck as bad as the rest of your education.
>university educated doctors constantly FORGET INSTRUMENTS IN THEIR PATIENTS
>>711832576
Hardwired constitutions keep a country on even keel and impervious to herd-mentality knee jerk reactions.
We've all heard that democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting over whats for dinner.
Our Democratic Republic makes sure that would be Presidents don't just rally support in large population centers and nowhere else; in effect, it makes them pay attention to the wants and needs of farmers/ranchers, a backbone of any decent country. More to the point, one-size-fits-all politics fail badly for most people, so if urban centers of large population were the only ones deciding and therefore represented, nobody else's opinion would matter.
>>711841582
What alternative to political parties is there?
While maintaining the 1st amendment
>>711842557
22% if they win with 50.01% in a few states but lose with 0% in other states
>>711843175
This. Not him but free IDs. Not drivers licenses but just simple IDs. Also that whole argument is bullshit because you need an ID to buy malt liquor and lottery tickets and big black butts weekly.
OP is one of two people,
1) nigger
2) millennial
OP is of course as always a fag
>>711843390
George washington's farewell address. warned us against having political parties. Then we went and fucked that shit up
>>711843036
Ok, this is literally the form to register to vote in my state: https://forms.in.gov/Download.aspx?id=9341
Please tell me what on there, other than being honest, would keep any illegal alien from registering to vote. If you're staying with a friend long term, you could technically register to vote. You just need a state ID with that address (for Indiana -- not all states require this), and that doesn't require any proof of citizenship or legal work status either.
>>711842062
Nice troll.
Literally thousands of pages of regulation and rooms full of documentation would say that is is not mysterious. It is complex, not the same thing.
>>711842098
Kek
>>711843282
>implying a couple cases of bad doctors means the whole system is bad
Try harder retard, there's a reason rich foreigners send their kids to university in the US
>>711842289
The FBI says it was classified. They should know, they classified them.
Attempts to hacking her server were admitted by staff.
>wikileaks is full of shit
Oh, you're a shill
>pic related from mostdamagingwikileaks.com
>>711843563
Or him but wow. Does Indiana grant DLs to undocumented immigrants? Because if so illegals can vote in Indiana. They give DLs to illegals in Kommiefornistan. If they have the same registration form(if they register at all buncha faggots) then at least a million of the votes for Hillary in Cali could be illegals.
>>711832810
it's a democratic republic, dumbass. ever taken a government class?
>>711843811
Not* him
>>711841586
And Bush deleted 22 million emails and noone seems to be harping on that 4 days before an election.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_White_House_email_controversy
>>711843691
>a couple cases
It happens so fucking often it's insane. They have god damned specialized law agencies for those cases now. You're the only country who pays first world price for third world quality healthcare.
>>711830779
On behalf of every sane person, FUCK OFF TO YOUR SAFE SPACES.
>>711843518
What constitutional alternative is there
>>711843903
That's why whenever people need specialized surgeries they come to the US.
Keep trying retard.
as long as he gets rid of some of these shitty ugly ass beaners I'm all for it buds
>>711843691
>foreigners send their kids to American colleges
That's a straight up fucking lie. They send them to euro colleges. No one comes for your shit healthcare either. They go to places like Switzerland. Fuck they even go to Cuba for healthcare more than the states especially for cancer.
>>711843811
Oh, yeah, definitely. I went to a college here in Indiana that had a sister college in Cyprus, so we had a SUPER high number of Turkish and Greek students (exchange program). All of them that I worked with had drivers licenses, and while they were here on student visas (legally), there's absolutely no documentation required for an Indiana driver's license that can't be provided by an illegal alien (birth certificates are the hardest part, but they don't require that they be from here -- it's just to verify the name).
>>711843876
Probably because that was over a decade ago. He's irrelevant.
>>711844092
They don't come to the U.S. for surgeries you idiot. Americans even often LEAVE the U.S. for surgeries. They go to the ultra white European countries like Sweden and Norway.
>>711844308
Americans leave for surgeries because it's cheaper to do it elsewhere. For world-renowned doctors, people usually go to America.
>>711844226
Damn.
>>711844133
>That's a straight up fucking lie
http://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/articles/2014/11/17/number-of-international-college-students-continues-to-climb
Largest number of foreign students in the world.
Congratulations on proving you're retarded.
>>711844508
No, they don't. American doctors are among the WORST in the first world. And it isn't cheaper to go overseas for treatment, it's way more expensive.
>>711843849
You make it obvious you haven't
>>711844308
If they're poor yeah but if you want the best money can buy, you come to the US.
>>711844792
What the fuck. Not him but you can't have it both ways. Either we're paying too much for shit service or we're paying less for better service.
>>711844756
>usnews
>literal propaganda
>data manipulation for preferred results
>>711844792
>being this retarded
Kek, and I thought Americans were dumb
>>711830779
I would much rather have had Trump win over Hillary, I can understand that people do not want to have Trump as president, but FOR FUCK SAKES how do you support a woman who has lied under oath, wishes to take away our founding fathers principles of being able to own a firearm (to be able to stand up against a corrupt government), has had people killed for releasing her emails, is responsible for the death of US Marines in Benghazi, AND HAS BEEN PROVEN TO HAVE RIGGED THE PRIMARY AGAINST BERNIE SANDERS! HOW DO YOU SUPPORT SOMEONE SO TWISTED, and hows own greed and hunger for power trumps (pun intended) the rights and freedoms of American citizens? And thats only the tip of the iceberg... So many media sites were in her back pocket, like the whole story about the girl who was 'sexually assaulted and maced' by trump supporters... which was actually a crazy femnazi who had a piece of paper touch her jacket, prompting her to punch an elderly senior citizen in the face, and someone in the crowd shot her with a can of mace for being a crazy bitch and trying to de-escalate a fight before it could start.
>>711844943
You're overpaying for shit service but due to different values for currencies it would cost an American more to get service in other countries.
>>711845016
>gets proven wrong
>hurr durr muh propaganda
God it must suck being so retarded
>>711830779
Remain salty, triggered roastie.
#HillaryForPrison
>>711845104
>you're retarded lalalalalalala you're retarded has anyone told you you're retarded?
Do you have a disability where you have to call someone retarded every 30 seconds?
>>711830779
3 million illegal immigrants voted for Hillary. Trump won the popular vote
the republicans just put an end to your "democracy". bi-sexual queers in womans rest rooms because they identify as "2-spirited" possibly looking at your daughters and convincing your sons to lose their cocks in exchange for an inverted mess of manipulated organs. fuck hillary. the only viable option was trump. no other reputable republicans were up to the tast
>>711845420
Do you have a disability where you don't believe proven facts? Oh right it's called retardation. Sorry for triggering you little buddy.
>>711835862
Yeah.. i kind of agree with the other guy in respect to the bullshit we teach. One of my employees is going to college and was required to take a "Cultural Awareness" class, paying about a grand to be told "the white man is responsible for every problem in the US" (direct quote from his teacher) and that "white privilege" is rampant, and you don't know what you have, and to LITTERALLY "check your privilege"... fucking idiot... I think that it's people like that who CREATE the animosity, who CREATES this whole privilege bullshit that they love spewing on about. Most millennials are soft crybabies who want everything handed to them, and if they don't get what they want, they cry, and throw adult temper tantrums.
One of my local colleges ACTUALLY POSTPONED EXAMS and sent out letters to the students telling them that grief counselors were available to talk about and accept the election results.I mean HOLY FUCKING SHIT, GROW UP
>>711845449
and please tell me how illegals are able to vote
Anyone protesting the result off the election is and i say this truthfully ARE ANTI DEMOCRATIC, A HYPOCRITE AND A DELUSIONAL IDIOT.
>>711830779
>>711837383
Yeah I agree... He just has no 'politically correct filter' to say these things nicer... Illegal aliens are just that... in our country illegally, taking jobs away from American taxpayers by underhanded companies looking to save a few bucks. I do feel bad for them, having what had to have been that horrible of a life, you choose to risk everything to live here in fear you'll get caught and deported back to a country where you have nothing. but still, they are here illegally.
>>711845880
See>>711843563
And that's Indiana. You think it's more strict or less strict in states that have sanctuary cities like California? And lots of states issue illegals drivers licenses which is all you need in this case in Indiana to register. I doubt you even need ID at that point to actually vote. Especially where Hillary got the votes that take her past trump in the popular.
>>711841399
Do you want to read any of that?
>>711845858
It's a vocal minority on most campuses, STEM majors, business majors, polysci majors etc don't give a shit about that stuff
>>711845449
yeah not to mention that obama actually encouraged illegal immigrants to vote saying that they dont investigate voter eligability afterwards because the sanctity of the vote is strictly confidential
>>711846509
I would SURE hope so... I just can't wrap my mind around how people can be that retarded... Look up "Has political correctness gone too far" at UMass on youtube. These are the retards that I always think of, they can't listen to an opinion thats not their own, they can't handle the 'truth'... John Cleese a comedian has a great thought on political correctness, look it up as well.
>>711847320
In my major at least(physics), nobody gives a shit about that stuff, too busy studying
>>711830779
>>711847320
Or look up "the triggering" I believe it's the same host with a democratic non-radicalized feminist, milo "professional troll" and gay conservative, and some Canadian take on crying liberals. This is where trigglypuff loses her shit.
>>711846652
This actually happened. It made the news.
I'm so very glad the sheer population of California doesn't give it totalitarian rule over everyone else in the country
>>711848550
I bought this gun brand new at a gun store with no background check and this gun is banned in California. There. That should trigger them right up a bit.
>>711848899
Whoops
>>711830779
Let me ask you this:
If Hillary had won the Electoral College, but Trump had won the popular, would you be shilling this hard against the constitution?
