How does this make you feel?
The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
How does this make you feel?
makes me feel sauce is in order
>>711814967
the line graph kinda looks like a heart beat
gonna be honest....
....a little horny
>>711815151
What are you a faggot?
Fun fact: If every human on Earth held their breath for 2 seconds at the same time, carbon dioxide levels would drop by 6% - if we did this every day we would eventually stop global warming.
>>711814967
Feeling have a function, and that is to make us act. My actions cannot affect this problem. So I don't feel anything.
I'm aware of the changes. I know they are bad. I do some minor things every now and then like choosing ecological foods and paying a small monthly fee to a environmentalist organization.
I only hope that we don't die out, and I don't think we will.
>>711815492
Let's get everybody to hold their breath for 10 minutes. That should fix it permanently.
>>711814967
CO2 is good for plants dumbfuck
Enjoy being energycucked by the liberal "science" agenda
>>711815943
>energycucked
>once the infrastructure is installed, green energy is totally free
>fossil fuels continually bring costs forever
Yeah, well I think YOU'RE the energy cuck, so how about that, mister?
>>711814967
super psyched we have a president with his head so far up his ass that is going to double down on coal
>>711814967
>>711816191
"Green" energy is more wasteful than typical fossil fuels. Even in 100 years of operation, a wind turbine will not likely counteract its carbon footprint.
Think of the materials, the metal mined, the foundry where it was shaped, shipping them to the location, and of course maintenance. The only reason they're built is through government subsidies, which is basically ripping everyone off through their taxes.
Spain built tons of solar reflector plants which are closing down because they're not worth it to run.
>>711815943
I thought, people learn this in high school. I guess you dropped out before.
Plants even need a high concentration of O² during the night
>>711815492
Converting global energy usage to renewable, emission-free sources would be easier.
>>711816592
There's these things called solar panels and they work just fine .
>B can't be this stupid
>>711814967
400 000 years is way older than human history
>>711815492
Are you retarded?
>>711814967
legitimately sick. Instagram should never have stolen that color scheme from Powerpoint defaults.
>>711816889
that's the point
you can see what the natural cycle looked like before humans
>>711816592
It takes 20 years for a windmill to cancel out the carbon footprint.
>>711816592
>
>>711814967
>feelsgoodman.rar
look, we can't fix the place so we might as well burn it to the ground.
>>711816787
>graphs with 3 and 5 data points
nigga is you serious
>>711816889
what type of human are you talking about? Homo Sapiens? Neanderthals? You logic like a neanderthal, that's for sure.
<definition of human is ambiguous, are we talking about the evolution from when we became sapiens or fucking what oh christ i'm too tired for this shit>
>>711817233
cunt needs some soycaf pronto.
How do they know how much carbon dioxide was in the air all those years ago?
>>711816834
The same thing applies. Mining the materials for solar panels takes a lot of earth. They usually pay for themselves in about 30-50 years in terms of cost, but not in terms of carbon emissions to obtain them. And in that time they will decrease in efficiency and decay and possibly break.
>>711817349
time travel
>>711816592
of course a windmill needs maintenance/foundry and shit.
Do you seriously think that others system don't cost anything ? Can you be that dumb that you think a nuclear or coal plant is free ?
>>711817398
woaah
>>711817410
>Can you be that dumb that you think a nuclear or coal plant is free ?
They're basically free. Just build your coal plant over the mine and set the coal on fire. Cheap energy. Same with nuclear, just build the plant over an atom mine.
>>711817233
Are you serious? What do you expect between the graph points? An extreme growth and then a drop near the point?
Here , have some more:
http://www.ciesin.org/docs/004-038/004-038a.html
http://www.fao.org/docrep/w5183e/w5183e06.htm
>>711817349
core samples taken from antarctica. No, this isn't a movie you fuck.
>>711817410
You're missing the more interesting point, which is that business is all about offsetting impact versus potential benefit.
In the long run, I believe sacrificing carbon emission will reduce the carbon PPM count that is absolutely skyrocketing.
I believe elon musk's tesla powerwall and brand are a great start twoards the future of zero-impact power generation.
Did ya'll see solar city?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBftv5_tLKA
why the fuck was this so hard to locate.
>>711817368
You can't be serious we put that same effort into mining for the plants that run it . And the waste it produces has made water undrinkable in parts of America. The least we could is cut out the plants cut out the waste and cut out the emissions. We save money and keep people employed in maintance field. 30-50 years so we're pulling facts from fox news fucking kys anon youre a cucked
>>711814967
Makes me feel happy not live in the equatorial regions.
Good news everyone! Climate change isn't an extinction level event.
>>711814967
*shrug* I didn't wanna live forever anyway.
>>711817585
>Are you serious?
yes, everyone knows you need 30+ for a representative sample.
>read my chinese propaganda links
no thanks
Why should I give a shit? Ill be dead before there is anything catastrophic. If you want to fix it, do so, stop complaining.
>>711816889
they get it from ice trapped in glaciers
>>711818352
That's methane you retard.
>>711818244
>fao
>chinese
Now you went full retard. You may want to look it up, MR. Down.
Did you even fucking open the links? One is a study made by the fucking US and there are more values for you to look at.
You are literally the most retarded person, I have seen today, congratulations on that.
>>711818693
>implying the US government and science establishmint isn't full of chink spies
>>711818210
um..
yet, we are still going through an extinction? how does that even relate to the question of OP.
>>711814967
it makes me feel like burping
Like I hope we run out of oil before everyone dies.
>>711816793
You'd have to do that eventually as fossil fuels will run out, but it's a great way to reduce harm right now.
>>711816935
Hmmm... your mother?
I dont see what the problem is. We need O to live, and we are C based creatures, so CO2 just makes us stronger.
>>711818862
How fuckin dense are you mate
>>711814967
Almost at 420!
>>711818990
about as dense a black hole. Your mums.
>>711814967
>How does this make you feel?
CO2 makes plants grow. I like to eat and/or smoke plants. I don't see a problem here.
If elevated CO2 levels mean an environment that would suffocate Jews, it's a reason to celebrate. Dead Jews, living humans. L'Chaim!
>>711817547
>just build the plant over an atom mine.
>over an atom mine
>atom mine
Nuclear fission is the cleanest, safest energy source we currently have, unless a stable fusion reactor gets figured out. People need to get over the"scary" factor of nuclear and realize it's what we NEED to be using right now.
>>711819208
need more vespene gas brah..
Your game is slipping.
I sentence you two twelve billion lashings.
>>711815492
>implying humans can stop the natural cycle of the earth
Idiots like you should an hero
>>711819489
That's 24 billion lashings!
>>711819472
Fuck you very much mate, chernobyl, burning into the ground, what's the half life? Oh yeah that's right its fuck you.
Fukushima, still burning, unable to be stopped, leaking into the ocean? What movie came of that script? Godzilla you dumb cunt.
Fuck you, humanity cna't harness nuclear either, we're fucked basically.
>>711819623
give or take one or to.
It makes me feel that science lies to cover for the new Pope. The Eocene Period had CO2 levels of 900 ppm.
The graph is phony baloney.
>>711819472
This. And we need ITER and Wendelstein 7-X working now!
>>711817086
>Lybia and Turkey in charge of powering Europe and North Africa
Dat political stability
Dat free copper
What could go wrong.
>>711819841
>nasa
>phony baloney
>>711816592
How the hell do people actually believe this? Do you really think casting a giant aluminum tube and some blades is more harmful than burning thousands of tons of oil?
Turbines may have a lot of metals that have to be mined (burning oil in the process) coal powered plants do as well. The difference is that the wind turbines don't continuously burn those hydrocarbons.
Any of this oil shill propaganda can be easily defeated with even a modicum of common sense.
>>711819675
Got too do what you got too do.
>>711818693
>study made by the fucking US
>state mandated research in the US
cool story bro
>>711819624
Chernobyl's reactor design was obsolete before it was even built. Fukushima wasn't as big a disaster as you think (most of the disaster was the tsunami itself), and it could have been entirely avoided.
There's proposed reactor designs that could utilize spent fuel pellets, cutting down on waste. There's also lead-cooled reactor designs that physically could not melt down.
Do some research into new nuclear technology and you'll find that we have the ability to generate massive amounts of energy with very little waste, and we have methods to reduce the danger posed by existing nuclear waste by reusing. We need to put money into nuclear and get these projects off the ground so we can cut our dependency on fossil fuels.
>>711814967
mostly annoyed that we're trying to curb it.
and you've got countries opening new coal mines, and fools putting their heads in the sand. offsetting anything we do.
>>711819601
It's not about stopping it you fucking idiot.
It's about figuring out how to stop us speeding it up enough for science to develop a way of finding a new home.
>>711819624
In the history of nuclear power, there have been three accidents - Chernobyl, Fukushima, and 3 Mile. Only in Chernobyl did anyone die. Think about it - in the second and third worst nuclear disasters, nobody even died.
Coal powered plants release more radiation into the atmosphere than nuclear powered plants anyways since coal has radioactive material from deep inside the Earth.
Nuclear powerplants are dangerous only when something goes wrong. Coal powered plants are constantly spewing poison even when working properly.
>>711819624
>compares some 80's shitty ukrainian nuclear plant with 00's supervised high tech nuclear plants
top kek m8 i r8 0/10
>>711814967
How do they conduct this study? Sifting through layers of rock?
>>711814967
Glad that I'll be dead in around thirty years from the cigarettes.
Even if burning oil is good for the environment, we have to decrease our dependence on foreign oil anyways. We don't want the Middle East to be able to cuck us and ruin our economy whenever they want.
The oil is going to run out eventually so we might as well choose when to wean ourselves off instead of being forced to when the wells run dry.
>>711820356
High tech low orbit satellites. Lot of em.
>>711817349
There are lots of ways to get this information that have been analysed rigorously and are always within like 1% margin experimental error.
Ice cores are the most popular.
Dam strait boy,
Cants stops the natural cycles
>hay billy-jo pass me another tire, to puts in the burin hole
>>711814967
Some guy on /sci/ was posting some scary charts saying that the Clathrate Gun had been fired and we're all fucked.
>>711820356
Yes. The deeper you go the older the rock is since it gets deposited in layers over time. Pockets of air gets trapped in bubbles of rock and scientists measure it.
>>711815583
the thing is, it's gonna take a lot more than small actions from everyone. Because even if you can limit your impact, you only have a very small leverage. You're still forced to commute to get to your job, so unless you live close enough to bike there, you'll at best use public transport if suitable, or have no choice but to take the car.
Then you'll need to get basic necessities to actually survive, and even if you shop for the most "green" products, there will still be a non negligible environmental impact in manufacturing, packaging and transporting those. Again, you need a bare minimum of environmental impact to actually survive.
The real thing that is required is a gradual, and global reduction of the pace of the economy. Instead of always going for the brute force method of "increase throughtput", we need to start valuing efficiency way more than we already do. Even if it means taking more time to solve an issue than it would require with brute force.
>>711818210
Funny how half of your citations are Dr. Rohde. He is intensely interested in global warming and would not agree with this retarded picture at all.
>>711814967
Feels good. Everyday I light my chimney.
>>711814967
Look at all that lovely air for the plants to breathe
>>711821334
You just light a chimney?
Hardcore. Dick Van Dyke would beat the shit out of you.
>>711818947
We won't.
Then I heard what sounded like a voice among the four living creatures, saying, "Two pounds of wheat for a day's wages, and six pounds of barley for a day's wages, and do not damage the oil and the wine!"
>>711814967
Just like evolution, 'global warming' is a liberal, anti-Christian myth designed to scare people.
>>711821415
What plants?
>>711815492
We could end global warming in just over two weeks!
>>711814967
>still believing that global warming is real
>not knowing that libcuck vegan "scientists" are being paid to tell people that global warming is dangerous
>not knowing that the earth naturally heats up every 100,000 years right before going into another ice age
>mfw we're all going to freeze to death because hippie fags are speeding up the process
>>711820670
>Some guy on /sci/
goddammit, what did i tell you about listening to people on other boards?
>>711814967
good, if you like gardening
>>711821767
you know better than satellite that is directly measuring these in space?
>>711814967
Nothing. It's been politicized. I don't pay attention to it anymore. Even if man made climate change is in fact real. It doesn't matter anymore. Nobody is going to believe anybody about it ever again. Next time don't tack it onto a criminal you're trying to get elected.
>>711820670
>Clathrate Gun
Explain to a stupid anon what that is
>>711814967
Pretty awesome. BTW, I'm a plant.
>>711821767
>Still believing jewish oil shill propaganda
>Being so blind you can't read the graph
>Not knowing tens of thousands of scientists from all over the world are all trying to save the world meanwhile you plug your ears and pretend everything's fine
>>711814967
idgaf
>>711821683
Just like Islam, Christianity is a zionist, anti-gentile myth designed to scare people.
>>711821995
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clathrate_gun_hypothesis#Mechanism
tl;dr: There's a bunch of methane trapped in ice somewhere (referred to as clathrate). If that shit thaws and releases the methane into the atmosphere then we're fucked. As in game over man, extinction class event.
>>711821700
These plants
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kebakFyx8v4
>>711822295
it's a lot less badass than it sounds
>>711814967
Like we'll be just fine, since CO2 is still lower than 99.9% of the Earth's history, by a huge margin.
>inb4 but muh climate science!
I'm a geologist. You know... actual science. Not the bs that has to agree with it's federally funded predetermined conclusion.
>>711822573
>I've looked a rocks, so I have total knowledge of all science
>>711822573
>geology
>actual science
pick one
you need a fucking advanced degree to correctly identify dirt. why should we take you seriously?
>>711814967
Like setting shit on fire
>yfw after this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uwGL5Gg8Rw
bump
>>711819841
modern humans only exist for 600000 years. Earliest ancestors about 3-4million years ago.
The eocene period was 35 million years ago. What makes you think modern man could thrive in that atmosphere?
When can we start hunting undesirable humans for wasting oxygen and for polluting the environment with their filthy carbon dioxide?
>>711814967
>>711824295
i miss troll science threads
We're fucked.
>>711822573
that 99.9% of earth's history couldn't sustain human life.
>>711825008
Good
>>711823320
What makes you think modern man couldn't?
>>711823320
>35 million years ago
Earth is only 6000 years old, heathen
>>711814967
Pretty annoyed, but we could slow this trend...
>>711826341
I know right? If she dropped out and helped Hillary we could have a real chance.
>>711815943
This CO2 scam is the final refuge of these Climate Change Cucks. Back in the 20th Century, all these
assholes were "concerned" about airborne chemicals that caused "Acid Rain", "Ozone Layer Depletion" "Smog" and other "Pollution"
. When they couldn't go to that well anymore since we supposedly cleaned up all that shit, then they started whining about carbon dioxide, which we'll never get "rid" of or reduce artificially unless our economy spends itself out of existence
>>711826571
>helped Hillary
>HELPED HILLARY
>HELPED
>HILLARY
my jimmies are thoroughly rustled
>>711826650
All of those things were true, but we did something about them, for the most part. Doing something about them is the key, they didn't just fade away.
But that doesn't play into your narrative, so I'd ignore it if I were you.
>>711816403
The Chinks actually have a product like this.
Now THEIR country actually IS a polluted shithole.
Just plant more trees, if everyone in the world planted 30 trees a month for 20 years.
>>711827088
>Now THEIR country actually IS a polluted shithole.
Ours will be again too when Trump dismantles the EPA
>>711816403
Old people fall for this scam all the time. Just yesterday I saw three people with tanks of air they were carting behind them?
>>711827303
The Simpsons warned us about the EPA.
>>711815492
>/b/ - Random
>The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
>Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
/b/ - Random
The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
It happened under the Obama administration.
>>711827672
Color me susprised
>>711817233
>each of those datapoints represents one sample, and not the mean of a relevant and acceptable number of samples
>>711818210
>contemporary species will be able to evolve rapidly enough to cope with unprecedentedly fast increase in temperature
>>711827359
kek
>>711817410
Nuclear plants when run properly are actually much more eco friendly than people like to think. The main problem are the uranium rods that they just bury in lead.
>>711814967
im bretty late in the thread so i hope it wasn't mentioned before.
im not a huge fan of an industrialized world. but 'we' people in the free world are depending on it. there are more people like the 50 persons you know. like 7 billion more.
more than 2 billion of these faggots live in china and india. both nations have like zero environmental policies. so what ever 'you' feel or think about CO2 is pretty worthless because it changes the fact that you consume products from these nations and these nations become more and more westernized and starting to produce and consum for themself.
another point is that in the histoy of earth CO2 levels where often a lot highter than now. periodically. i personaly won't deny that hunams raised CO2 levels in a measurable way but i don't think it is in significant way.
last. 'we' as the west should stop to seek ways how 'we' could reduce CO2 in our country and start to look for ways how do decrease it world wide. otherwise it will be the end of humankind.
...overpopulation...
>>711828894
That, or get serious about space travel.
>>711814967
Good we need more
>>711829086
This.
I think you should check em
>>711829086
i don't think we should take our problems to space yet. if we seek hope in others worlds we'll surly wreck them too.
the resources of our planet are enourmous even for way more than 7 billion untermenschen. i know this sounds fucking liberal and gay but there is no other way as to work together.
if we've build something we could know call an utopia, i think that's the point when we should think of traveling to other planets and take our civilazation with us.
>>711829313
Looks like you've left your dubs in the Delta Quadrant.
>>711829882
Or did I
>>711827099
Not nearly enugh trees
>>711814967
Don't care, I won't be around to see the effects
>>711829819
No, you're right. Come to think of it, fixing the problems here first and establishing that utopia may be our only real option.
But how to convince people to stop fighting over petty things long enough to do so?
>>711830184
pretty much sums up the republican party right here
>>711814967
650000 Years you say?
Wow. Thats like a Lot of years.
Surely there cant be something past this line that would reveal something
>>711830003
That's something like 1.5 trillion trees. I'd argue that's too many trees.
/b/
>>711830446
appeal to ignorance is no viable argument. Yeah, sure, there might be something that we don't know yet, but everything we do have is pointing in one direction. There *always* might be something.
>>711828894
perhaps we should start by not being such consumer whores and buying useless bullshit from china and elsewhere around the globe. Every person I know who spouts endless drivel about how china is taking advantage of the US unnecessarily buys new clothes, furniture and appliances of all kinds annually from walmart, sams club, costco, harbor freight, etc.; all essentially importers of trashy disposable products from china. The doublethink is absurd. If you love the US, speak with your wallet, not just your mouth.
>>711829819
Disagree completely. As long as we only have one world, if we fuck up with that one try, we're doomed. If we have more worlds we have more trials. And once we got good and not screwing worlds up, it's not unfeasible that we might be able to "restore" the worlds we wrecked.
And the best thing is, *fucking a world up* is relative(f.e. increasing CO2 might be bad for us, but other life forms thrive in a world with more CO2), so we can't really objectively wreck a world. Also, on most worlds there is very probably no life at all, so we're not really wrecking anyone anyway. And lastly, the universe is ridiculously big, screwing up a few worlds at the start is nothing compared to settling the universe.
>>711830200
to tell the truth. im beyond convincing. in my opinion... and i hope im wrong there is only one way. to force people.
people never have done what they should have done. and they won't for a long time i think. oc there are people capable of seeing the 'big picture' but they are clearly the minority and often getting corruptible if they are in a position to change something for the greater good.
as long as we try to liberalize the world and allow anybody everything so he can live the live he wants we wont come to any good end.
sadly i formyself have no idea or solution to this problem.
we have do decrease in number
we have to unify our world politics
we have to remove from capitalism
...
>>711830529
>too many trees.
>1.5 trillion
>>711832140
Where would we put everything else?
>>711831202
even if. these people will consume and produce too. there are people elsewhere in this world. and they want wo live too. it has to happan world wide to stop it.
in my opinion 'we' should start to clear the mess of the other nations. they are clearly not capable of it.
there is no financial benefit to it. it just have to be done. and if no one is starting it we're doomed.
these people also reproduce with an enourmus rate. so there will be less and less people availabe able to solve the problem.
>>711832310
Treehouses
>>711828894
...And humans have existed on the planet how long.....?
fucking ignorant faggot
>>711814967
Out of breathy.
>>711814967
It makes me feel cold, better get out of the north soon
>>711831830
Overpopulation is often brought up, but imo it should simply be scrapped from anyones critique list. The reasons are simple:
1. There's still a lot of other stuff to do. I'm living in germany. We're 273 people per square kilometer, which is much more than most other countries have, and we still export more food than we import. On top, we're still really inefficient anyway; Aside from genetic engineering, which can tremendously increase yield, simply eating less meat can easily triple the population the world can support.
2.Any policy of culling population will be inhumane. So there's not really anything we can do about it without blatantly disregarding human rights.
My favourite is therefore still space travel. This allows us to control the amount of people on this world without the need for culling.
>>711832447
Good point. I'm on board.
>>711822999
This is why we need more people like you in charge, be the fucking change.
>>711831600
i meant live beyond our solar system. i considere everything in it as a resource or place where you could settle with the right technology. sorry that i din't made mayself clear.
i also didn't mean that a world is wasted just becaue it isn't livable for hunams. this stone ball where here before us and will when we're gone.
i tried to say that fleeing our problems will only worsen them. maybe like the dependece on fossile fules, historicly it was a step in the wrong direction.
>>711832430
Actually, china is leading the world in innovation of renewable energies, while America just voted Trump into office. Most ofEurope is also stagnating for quite a few years now in renewable energies.
Currently, I have more hope for China and India to clean up our mess than the other way around.
And it should not be forgotten that methane is a much more devastating global warming agent...
Feels like time to start a global genocide campaign on dem pesky volcanoes.
Pic related
>>OP is still a massive faggot
>>711833122
At least I personally think that some parts of our problems will get only worse because nobody can really flee from them.
Historically, if you were unhappy with the state of your tribe/nation/whatever, you could always gather like-minded people and go somewhere and build up a new society, which often competed with the old society ... and eventually won, or at least influenced it heavily. The best example is america and europe. Sure, america is stagnating again, but it influenced europe for a long time in a good way, and it couldn't have done that if the people would have been forced to stay in their homeland.
>>711817585
TIL science education in the US really is that bad
>>711815034
if you're looking for sauce for a scientific consensus....you might as well just head over to fox news and rely on faith
>>711815068
like a cycle...that is being thrown way off...hmmmmmmm
>>711815943
I've heard they crave electrolytes as well...
I'll be dead in another 70 years give or take a decade. As long as we don't burn the earth to the ground before then, I'm leaving my AC on with the doors open and my car running in the driveway. I don't give a FUCK.
>>711814967
Op farted
