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What do you think about abortion?
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Wish they were cheaper. Maybe like a rewards card. Buy 5 Get 1 Free
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>>711787671
wish we could just donate unwanted babies to feed starving people. thats good meat there, wasted because of cuck feelings.
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>>711787671
Doesnt matter, once shes got you trapped your 7 shades of fucked
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>>711787884
Kick her in the bread basket
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Have you ever read "A Modest Proposal" by Jonathan Swift?
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couldn't care, kill you baby/cells if you want to
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What about babby's rights to life?
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It's a lazy cop-out for people who are can't be fucked to use a condom or birth control.
People use mental gymnastics to pretend an embryo is not a living human so they don't have to deal with the fact they're slaughtering an unborn human.
However, in the US, it's (unconstitutionally) law and it would be a very long and bumpy road to repeal it.
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>>711788166
who cares it will be just like the next child if you even wanted one that is
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>>711787924
that may get rid of the baby and not have to pay child support, but you get to be Demarkus Tyrones "sugar" for the next 20+ years
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Morally i'm against killing babies, but we've got too many degenerates as it is. Anyone who gets more than 2 of these should be forcibly sterilized.

>Verdict: pro-choice
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>>711787671
Personally, I quite enjoy the thought of dead proto-babies. It's just the whole deal with empowering wymen I have issues about.
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>>711787671
Deductive logic.
If you were killed as a fetus, same result as if you are killed now or at any time in your life. You would be dead.

It is either all okay for a mother to kill their child at any age of the child, or it is not okay at all.
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>>711788366
There is an easy solution: make it the man's choice.
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>>711788208
>>711788354
>rape isn't a thing
>incurable diseases aren't a thing
>defect birth control isn't a thing
>sudden unfortunate events that totally turn your life upside down aren't a thing

>>711788208
>People use mental gymnastics to pretend an embryo is not a living human so they don't have to deal with the fact they're slaughtering an unborn human.
So fucking what, we have the death penalty too and also we kill people in war
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>>711788447
I would support this.
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>>711788208
This guy gets it. Woman's choice was made to spear her legs.
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>>711787827
Hang out near a planned parenthood and just chow down on their biowaste, dude. Free protein.
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>>711788447
The choice comes before you cum. It's called abstaining. Hands feel better than pussy anyways.
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>>711788513
>Hands feel better than pussy anyways.
Found the virgin
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>>711788441
the problem is, mate, you do not understand that you are not smart. You think you nailed it, when in reality, you just went full retard.
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>>711788533
If I were a virgin how would I know hands feel better than pussy? Pussy is too soft, there is no friction, no sensation. Hands are the only way to go.
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>>711788544
So you're smart because you can insult me and troll people? Oh wow. I didn't know being stupid is the new smart these days.
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>>711788564
>If I were a virgin how would I know hands feel better than pussy?
You wouldn't, would you, you virgin.

>Pussy is too soft, there is no friction, no sensation. Hands are the only way to go.
Okay, maybe you're not a virgin. Maybe you just have a micropenis.
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>>711788208
>people who can't be fucked
So, you?
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>>711788464
So I can find you and kill you because hurr durr death penalty? I approve.
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Any time an argument has an emphasis on JEEZUSS you know it's complete bollocks
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>>711788464
>killing an unborn baby is the same as executing a criminal or fighting a war

Gotta be more subtle than that m8
2/10
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>>711787671
Only rape (proven not just by simple claim) babies should be aborted or if the birth endangers the life of the mother. Otherwise I see it as intolerable.
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>>711788612
Don't try to convince him otherwise. The human race will benefit from not having his genes.
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>>711788564
>how would I know
Pretty sure he's insinuating that (bitter) virgins would tell themselves hands are better, because that's all they got or will get.
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>>711788612
my penis is rather small, does that affect sensation? I thought a smaller penis would have more feeling because the nerves are closer together like a clitoris.

but seriously, I think it's just the fact I have death gripped my dick since I was 7
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>>711787671
I am against abortion. Not because I think babies have a right to live. I just really hate when women have a choice.
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>>711788660
wow what was that for? you must be a hillary supporter, so much spite for no reason.
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>>711788564
>Pussy is too soft, there is no friction, no sensation. Hands are the only way to go.
Ah, Americans and their mutilated cocks.

When will you wake up and realise that jewish physicians have turned you into a nation of submissive cucks?
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>>711788464
A D O P T I O N
Also, to assume that you would be incapable of loving and raising a child that is yours, even though you did not want them is.... dishonest, but if you cannot, see the above.
Incurable disease is incredibly vague, but in my opinion, if it is something like anencephaly, the natural approach should be taken upon birth that if it is incapable of survival and enjoying life, that it should not do so.
As far as the death penalty goes, it is used for severe crimes. Severe enough that the revocation of one's life to live is seen as acceptable. Regardless of my opinion on the death penalty, it is completely irrelevant to the discussion and is a complete red herring.
War, also a red herring, is an unfortunate result of human development that is unavoidable under our current circumstances.
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>>711788659
Why? Surely it's better to abort the baby rather than have it be born to parents that don't want it or have it thrown on the pile of 50,000,000 orphans that no one wants
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>>711788723
I already realized that when I was 10 years old. Realization does not reverse the damage.
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>>711788702
Look where you are right now.
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>>711788727
Yeah, because so many people are just waiting to adopt a potato with all sorts of incurable diseases that will live a short, agonisingly painful life.
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It's a distraction. If people were serious about stopping abortion we''d invest in ways to make fetuses viable outside the womb for longer, or invest in scientific ways of transferring zygotes to willing mothers. The fact that the GOP won't fund scientific research is a sign they need this as a hot button issue to rally their religious supporters with. Dems are the other side of the coin, they need women to be afraid of having abortion taken away
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>>711788777
I am in /b/ with my /b/ros I thought. didn't know a bunch of cucks were flooding in here with their teenage angst and spite.
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>>711788702
No spite here, brother. I support your decision to jerk off instead of spawn a parasite you can't support because you don't believe in contraception.
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I even agree with post-birth abortion for niggers.
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>>711788777
checked by the way. I am out, can't handle the cucks. going to go watch Trump owning Hillary and all the cucks crying again.
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Quints get
>kill all babbbber
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>>711788802
Someone clearly not only didn't read the entirety of the post, but couldn't be assed to read past the first eight letters.
>if it is something like anencephaly, the natural approach should be taken upon birth that if it is incapable of survival and enjoying life, that it should not do so.
Regardless, yes, there are people who are willing to adopt such children, even if I do not understand why.
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>>711788723
get outta here gross foreskin fag, nobody wants your nasty dicks
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>>711788727
Adoption in the US is both underfunded and overcrowded. If this weren't the case and there were just hordes of parents waiting for children to be born in order to adopt them it would be different.
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>>711787671
Pro Life is the reason why orphanages are overflowing with kids who get to live their lives wondering why their shit parents didn't want them.
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Serious answer here, morally I think at some point once the baby has the ability to recognize pain and death its not okay.... BUT if the baby cannot feel pain or even grasp the concept of death is it truly any different from a bug? I kill bugs every day...
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>>711788937
>nobody wants your nasty dicks
Except every woman outside of America, and even the majority of them in America
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>>711788727
>Also, to assume that you would be incapable of loving and raising a child that is yours, even though you did not want them is.... dishonest,
Fun fact: 94% of American parents resort to corporal punishment, 85% of American kids have been struck before they turn 4 years old. 50% of American kids are struck 3 times or more every week.

Sauce: Straus, Gelles & Steinmetz, 1980 and 2006

You seriously believe beating the crap out of a toddler you hate and despise until it's old enough to get away from you is a better option than putting it out of its misery before it is even sentient?
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>>711788208
im sorry but you suck
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>>711788944
I completely agree, however, there are plenty of people who want to adopt but do not/cannot do so due to various issues with the adoption process.
This is an issue with adoption, rather than abortion law.
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Should be legal for the same reason forced organ donation is illegal
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>>711787671
I think its a retarded argumemt, its 2016. There is no mystery as to how babies are made and we have litterally a dozen option for birth control that are cheap enough for anyone to afford....including the pullout method which is free. But we dont talk about that, instead we argue over when life begins and when rights begin.
Abortion is killing a baby plan and simple. Its not fair to ask a wman to die so the baby can live, or to carry it if she was raped. But after a few weeks, it becomes fucked up because they know the baby is in there, but want to wait till month 6 when its developed enough tk feel pain instead of week 6 when its just getting a heart beat.....so PRO LIFE
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>>711788208
Even if you make the giant leap in logic that an embryo is a human life it's still justified, it's a parasite living off of the mother, she can choose to not support it if she wishes
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>>711789030
jesus im not even in this argument but I can tell you're a know it all faggot
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>>711788930
>>711788727
>advocating pushing Tyrone's and LaSasquasha's retarded niglet baby on other people

You're a fucking cuck. Enjoy raising a future welfare queen and another man's baby. You disgust me, you submissive race traitor.
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Legalize all murder. Use jaguars as childcare. If baby survives parents get gold coin to raise baby with because baby is strong, blessed with luck, etc.
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>>711789125
So being informed is faggotry now? Fuck off.
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>>711787671
Fine until a certain period (don't go do an abortion your 2nd month in) OK under some circumstances past the 2nd month (birthing threatens life of the mother)
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>>711789030
The word 'struck' is rather vague here as well. You're comparing children who are popped on the hand or given a spanking to children who are regularly given brutal beatings or even more extreme that that. That is intellectually dishonest and you know it.
People don't grow up thinking their life is a living hell because they were spanked, wishing they were never born. This is a fate relegated to people who are raised in cages and regularly raped.
Please do not grasp at straws.
>>711789169
Barring how blatantly stupid that was, your assuming that only black people put their children up for adoption/abort their children, and that any non-black person looking to adopt is forced to adopt a black child. The fact that you even got me to reply to this means it's gr8 b8, but on the off-chance it isn't, you're just silly.
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Create a professional breeding class. Everyone else has to buy baby from them and submit to sterilization
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You all pro-life faggots are the reason why I work my fingers to the bone and break my back, only to finance Tyrone's 16 children with 11 different women who again are going to grow up and get 16 nigspawns of their own.
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It's a simple fix really
>restrict abortion to emergency situations like atopic pregnancies/rape/incest etc.
>you can still get an regular abortion also but in order to get it you have to also be sterilized.
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>>711789331
>mfw
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>>711789303
>People don't grow up thinking their life is a living hell because they were spanked, wishing they were never born
Fun fact: In Northern Europe (Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Germany), you get your child forcefully taken away from you and risk imprisonment if you spank it.
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>>711788166
>What about babby's rights to life?

More where that one came from.
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>>711789066
>There is no mystery as to how babies are made and we have litterally a dozen option for birth control that are cheap enough for anyone to afford
Tell that to niggers and their little ghetto nigglets
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>>711788441
>Deductive logic.

That's not how autistic is spelled.
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>>711789439
That sounds like a topic for discussion on corporal punishment in Northern Europe, and not one for abortion.
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>>711789439
explains why europe is a bunch of pussy, liberal faggots
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>>711789303
>your assuming
you're*
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Well I think it's better than forcing unwanted children into homes that never wanted them.

It's also critical we preserve Roe vs. Wade in the USA because it was decided on the basis of a right to PRIVACY. If we overturn RvW, we are rejecting a right to privacy.
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>>711789538
>>711789528
>violence towards kids is okay, but putting them out of their misery is inhumane and despicable

LAND OF THE FREE, HOME OF THE BRAVE everyone
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>>711789349
This. Kill all the white men!
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>>711789577
>discipline is violence now
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>>711789538
And why happiness and intellect is skyhigh while crime is low
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The answer is simple. If someone wants to abort their kid, it has no impact on my life. For the same reason I expect people to stay out of my life choices, I do not get involved in theirs. The government shouldn't be involved either.
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>>711789349
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>>711788937
oy vey goyim!
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>>711789608
it always was you moron
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>>711789577
>I can't defend my position without resorting to insulting an entire nation.
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They need to do way instain mother> who kill thier babbys. becuse these babby cant frigth back? it was on the news this mroing a mother in ar who had kill her three kids. they are taking the three babby back to new york too lady to rest my pary are with the father who lost his children ; i am truley sorry for your lots
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>>711789608
>it's just discipline, bro!!!
Explains why you get charged with assault or battery (depending on the circumstance) if you decide to scold your employees by spanking them

>it's considered a felony if done to an adult
>it's perfectly okay when done to a child
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Use a fucking condom and take over responsibility for what you do idiot.

Exceptions: BAN abortion except for rape and medical issues.

Take over responsibility!
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>>711789608
>Being physically violent towards someone is not violence
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>>711788937
get out of here you mutilated jewcock
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>>711789660
>Using condoms

It would be better to just chop your dick off if your only other option is condoms
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>>711789644
>he gets personally offended by generic anti-american banter on a forum for discussing taiwanese tapestry

How autistic are you?
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Free abortions in the 1st trimester before the fetus becomes cognent. Government funded and all.

After that, no. You should have sorted your shit out sooner and have a bloody good reason.
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>>711789660
what you're advocating isn't responsibility, it's punishment. Learn the difference between words and their meanings you fucking moron.

And consider the impact to the child. It's not wanted, and you're forcing it to live with that forever. You're immature, but maybe when you grow up you'll learn to consider the bigger picture.
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>>711789608
Def: Violence - behavior involving physical force intended to hurt
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>>711789608
Well, yeah? Isn't that the entire point?
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>>711787671
why does pro life have a dutch flag?
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>>711789714
Lol wut
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>>711789726
you don't understand how pregnancies work. The baby isn't viable until 21-23 weeks. Trimesters aren't relevant to the discussion.
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>>711789766
Female contraceptives > condoms

At least when it comes to pleasure.
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>>711789653
This
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>>711787671
It allows a woman to avoid accountability for her actions. Can a guy walk out on a woman if she gets pregnant?
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>>711789752
lol you think my fellow Americans know the flags of any country other than those of North America?
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>>711789796
and effectiveness, honestly.
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last thing this world needs is more kids let alone unwanted ones. Should be handed out for free
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>>711789653
What'd you just slam your face into a keyboard to type out that abomination of a sentence?
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>>711789349
This anon gets it
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>>711789766
Well it's not like there's any difference in feeling between wearing condoms and chopping your dick off
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>>711789782
I never said viable faggot. I said cognent. Once it can think.

3 months is plenty of time to sort out if you want the baby or not... after that you are just playing silly fucker and should keep it.
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depends on if society would take care of the baby.

if society has foster homes till baby reaches 18, then no abortions.

but if mother has to take care of it herself, then abortions should be legal.
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>>711789796
Yeah I liked your idea about everyone chopping their dick off tho
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>Condoms suck bruh you cant feel anything
This means your dick/her pussy doesnt fit well anyways.
>tfw my ex smoked and drank enough with me to miscarry
If abortions become illegal, there are legal and easy ways.
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>>711787671
>muh fetus
>muh religion

Pfft. Love abortions. They should be handing them out like candy.
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>>711787827
Yes Kentucky Fried Fetus
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>>711789921
>legal and easy
And also painful and has plenty potential complications, many with deadly outcome, for the mother.
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>>711787671
For you pro-life people there will be less niggers if they get abortions
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>>711789657
unlike children employees have the ability to reason and can also be fired.

also the rest of you twats do understand there is a difference between a spank and a literal beating? of course you don't because you're all autistic like the rest of us.
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>>711789921
>This means your dick/her pussy doesnt fit well anyways.

What? That's some amazing logic

You could have the biggest dick and the tightest pussy in the universe and wearing a condom would still make it significantly less pleasurable
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>>711789881
3 months is plenty of time based on what? Your arbitrary assessment? And having neural activity doesn't mean cogent.

GTFO boy, you don't know enough about this to talk with the adults.
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Pro-life when I want a slut to have my baby
Pro-choice when I don't want her to have my baby
Basically pro-life because I won't allow myself to cum inside some hog
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That embryo has zero desire for self preservation, and has no value for it's life at that point because it's not self aware. The mother has total control over the life, and gives that embryo a value she sees fit. If that means she wants to abort thats her choice.
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>>711788208
I always used the most expensive condoms available, but when one of them broke and she got pregnant my senior year in college, there was only one solution. Seven years before Roe v Wade it was an very expensive felony.
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>>711789653
Shouldn't have dropped out of school mate. You can't form coherent sentences to save your life.
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I'm kind of torn here

On one side, it would probably mean less deadweight in the form of DaMarcus getting a bunch of kids he can't feed.

On the other side, it would mean giving women power over life and death, and that's something women simply shouldn't have and decide for themselves.
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Women's bodies
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>>711789994
oh please do differentiate two different ways of striking people and how one is ok and the other is not.
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>>711787671
Mothers should have the right to abort in the first trimester till they die.
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>>711790060
and let's take away their right to vote while we're at it, right?
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>>711789958
So?
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>>711789994
>spanking an adult with moderate force is inherently different than spanking a child with moderate force

In what fucking way?
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Her body, her choice
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>>711790111
trips decided it
No more women's suffrage
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>>711788441
Another category error victim; fetus does not equal adult human.
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>>711790111
Wasn't this apparent already during the election? White women were the only group of whites that didn't predominantly vote for Trump. In other words, they are a bunch of race traitors if given their will.
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Abortions should be mandatory for people who cannot pass a test proving they will be responsible parents.
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>>711790145
ONE IS DONE BY SEXUALLY PERVERTED DEGENERATES AND THE OTHER IS DONE BY NORMAL GOD-LOVING PARENTS YOU FUCKING MONGOLOID CUCK
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>>711790077
one is a simple pop with little or no force used merely to get the attention of a being who doesn't understand reasoning. they associate bad behavior with bad reactions. the other is intended to cause bodily damage.
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>>711790263
>no one ever spanked a child for sexual pleasure
What is pedophilia
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>>711790257
This, and for single parents too, obviously
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>>711790263
God-loving and sexual perverted degenerates are the same thing
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>>711789512
I legit laughed out loud god damn son.
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>>711790288
>adult spanking is intended to cause bodily damage
No, it's not. A fist in the face is. Spanking is intended to inflict minor pain, it's the same for both children and adults.
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>>711790145
an adult understand advanced concepts beyond good behavior-good reaction, bad behavior-bad reaction
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>>711790386
I think you overestimate the average member of the public
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>>711788937
You do realize how gay it is to care about another man's penis more than anyone else, right?
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>>711787671
take responsibility for your shit. If it is retarded or really unwanted than sure.
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>>711789031
Not for free
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>>711787671
Pro choice with conditions. In the case of a couple of over a year of living together, both the man and woman must agree to have the abortion. In case of single whoring bitch just wanting to erase her mistake then let her go at it. But, above all else, nobody should subsidized these whores just to enable their whoring.
It really could not be simpler, GTFO of here with your morality bullshit, be whore all you want but, dont expect me to pay for it. Of course we have manginas cucks on the other side well, just being cucks.
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>>711790204
lol you dumb faggot they broke for trump 53% to 47% as reported by multiple outlets including 538 and CNN.

You dumb trumpistas just live completely divorced from facts even when they are in your favor!

Fucking hilarious.
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>>711790377
tbh if you don't then you should be spanked to death.
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>>711790386
>beating sense into someone
Cognitive studies show that people who experience corporal punishment become less intelligent than their potential.

Which explains why you justify that your daddy got a hard on while inappropriately touching your ass and why you want to continue that tradition by inappropriately touching your childrens' ass
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>>711790288
both are striking another person, you're going to need to give me a differentiation in force (as measured in Newtons).
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>>711790263
lol god doesn't exist tho
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>>711790025
>cogent
>cognent
Da fuq you trying to say? Cognizant?
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>>711790386
>an adult understand advanced concepts beyond good behavior-good reaction, bad behavior-bad reaction
Then explain why jails exist then?

Bad behaviour (breaking the law) - bad reaction (go to jail)
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>>711790518
he doesn't know what cogent vs. cognizant means, but he thinks he knows enough to dictate when a fetus should be preserved.

That is why I am mocking him. Cogent doesn't mean neural activity.
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>>711787671

Murder
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>>711787671
If you want an abortion then get one. If it's against your precious religious beliefs don't get one and mind your own damn business. Unless you're willing to raise all the unwanted babies then you have no business telling others what they can or cannot do according to your ignorant beliefs.
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>>711790528
i can't wait for you to have a 3 year old and try to reason with him why he can't do something and he does it repeatedly. then all your pent up frustration will bubble forth and instead of a small bump you slap him with the force of a thousand suns
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>>711790257
I have been begging for this for years. This anon gets it.
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>>711788677
>top kek
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America really has to be the dumbest country in the world. How are you morons a super power? That has to be the ultimate irony. You criticise nations like Iran for their backward beliefs but are oblivious to your own.

Pro-Life is nothing but a badly disguised religious dogma. If you Pro-Life fucktards really believe in it, then go adopt a child.
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I think abortion is the intentional termination of a pregnancy in a way that is fatal to the fetus.
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>>711790579
Or you can just not be a braindead American who knows how to be a good parent
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I think that any woman who does not want to have a child should be able to abort it regardless of the man's say because it's still her having to take care of the child during pregnancy. However if the woman does want the child she should be free to have it, but if the man does not, he shouldn't be held responsible for it. This lets both parties have some say in the situation at least.

What do you think /b/?
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>>711790480
Spanked To Death is the name of my new metal band.
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>>711790597
>i can't wait for you to have a 3 year old and try to reason with him why he can't do something and he does it repeatedly. then all your pent up frustration will bubble forth
Well, this is as stated how things work in the civilised world, where spanking is equivalent to child abuse and may cause you to have your child taken away from you by child care and make you go to prison.

If you're so fucking retarded you can't explain simple things to a child, you're probably unfit as a parent. It's easy as hell to manipulate children into doing what you want.
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>>711790643
>If you Pro-Life fucktards really believe in it, then go adopt a child.
No, because that's altruism and altruism is just socialism in disguise, and that's against my religious beliefs.
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>>711790643
Only brainwashed Americans think they're the best country in the world, every other country recognises them as the least advanced first world country on eath
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>>711790673
yea and every man should have a choice to pay child care
I have buddies who have been fucked over do to some lass lying about being on birth control
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>>711790648
>implying Yuropoors never get abortions
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>>711790712
>explain to children
>who are incapable of comprehension
please show us your ways oh wizard
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>>711790643
One, fuck you foreigner. Second, its not just about the morality of the issue, its also that those degenerates want everybody else to pay for their mistakes. If it wasnt down to the money, then it would already be pro choice everywhere. Something every pro choice dumbfuck seems to just conveniently forget.
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>>711790673
sounds fair to me
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>>711788166
>babby
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Pretending that morality of the act is changed by whether or not the child has been squirted out yet is a huge farce.

I honestly don't care much one way or another about the issue, but people who fiercely argue for women's rights to kill their children before birth in one breath and in the next pretend to be disgusted by a teen mother who kills her infant immediately after birth is really too much for any thinking person to accept.

Is the passage through the vagina really so magical? No pro-choicers argue that it is.
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go to bed Mike
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Pro-Choice

It's none of my fucking business.
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>>711790790
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>>711790803
Children aren't incapable of comprehension, you idiot. Is all your knowledge about cognitive development in children from the middle ages?
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babby

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ll-lia-FEIY
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>>711790771
>other countries copy american culture
>other countries copy american technology
>other countries dependent on america's consumerism and economy
>other countries constantly crying please save us america time and time again
>then cry about how america gets involved too much
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>>711790825
>publicly funded abortions are more expensive than child care

See >>711789349
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I'm for abortion in the case of niggers, sand people, those with sub-85 IQs and people who can't actually provide for their children, but opposed to it in the case of healthy, productive whites and Asians who don't have more children than they can afford to raise well.
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>>711790991
>other countries copy american culture
Are you seriously implying that american culture isn't just the result of mixing various European cultures into a huge melting pot?
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>>711788513
actual faggot detected
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>>711787671
I think this all boils down to what "killing" someone is. When you kill someone you're basically taking away their future, and the same thing happens when you abort a fetus. You're taking that future away and that's the same as killing in my eyes.
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>>711790936
>past a certain age
>thus why it's only acceptable to spank children
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>>711790643
>How are you morons a super power?
Little bit o luck, lots o military spending
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>>711791070
uh mer i ca
>FUK YEAH
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>>711790774
I feel sorry for your mates. The child support/abortion system is so poorly constructed and rudimentary. That's why I'm planning on getting my sperm frozen, then a vasectomy. So if i want kids I've got extra in the bank and if i don't i can't plug&chug and hit it&quit it as much as i want
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>>711791016
>including Asians in the white group
Fucking disgusting race traitor. You want retarded street shitters, chinks, gooks, japs, pinays, etc to run wild in the streets everywhere?

There is already an unsustainable number of them on earth, and they're leaking into every corner. Less asians would be a good thing, unless you actually want overpopulation and the white race to lose to asian sub humans.
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>>711791034
it may have started that way but now you faggots are copying the pot has become.
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>>711788727
adoption is a great solution, except in the case of black or partially black children
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>>711791058
>he needs to use violence to manipulate children who can't think for themselves
How stupid must you be?

I mean, you just give them a fucking gold star sticker and they'll literally suck your cock if you tell them to.
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>>711787671
Pro choice is the only choice
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>>711791159
The only difference is that you added jungle juice to the mix, and got new exiting "culture" with violent niggers and jewish degenerates.

But sadly, yes, we are copying that.
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>>711790991
>>other countries dependent on america's consumerism and economy

That's the only one of those points that's true, and even then the whole concept of consumerism is fucking retarded and has caused an inconceivable amount of problems for human kind
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>>711790995
An average first-trimester abortion costs $397 vs. $854 for a second-trimester procedure. That's all less than child care.
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>>711787671

I'm totally ok with abortions done during the first couple of months. We are talking about a bunch of cells or a fucking shrimp-like being without a developed nervous system and no conscience at all.
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>>711791225
>positive reinforcement works for positive behavior
>negative reinforcement for negative behavior?
>BLASPHEMY
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>>711791156
>subhumans
>smarter than you
what sort of standard are you using?
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>>711787671
Whether it's legal or illegal it will occur, always has occurred, wtf not make it safe?
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>>711791312
>That's all less than child care.
Yes, that was my point.

I would even support legalising parents killing their toddlers, if that meant less expenses in the form of public child care.
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>>711788166
It doesn't have one.
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>>711791355
Negative reinforcement does not inappropriately touching ass, you retard. You can literally make a child cry by just saying that it's a bad child and that it is behaving in a bad way.
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>>711791156
Asians are better than whites in pretty much every way tbf, they're smarter and don't get morally outraged at everything like people in the west do, they just follow logic
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>>711791225
>just give them a fucking gold star sticker and they'll literally suck your cock if you tell them to
Well yea, but that got me banned from all daycares in the tristate area
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>>711791374
>Asians
>he exclusively means suburbian japanese descendants living in the US
Asians in general are not smarter than white people, see India, China, Taiwan, Thailand etc.
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>>711791058
You're a fucking idiot fella
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>>711791525
See >>711791552

>>711791532
lol'd
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>>711791493
ONCE THEY ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND
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>>711791334
SOMEBODY GET THE COCKTAIL SAUCE WE'RE SCOOPIN THIS LIL FUCKER OUT
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>>711791580
>no u
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>>711791621
Oh, so you only use violence against toddlers who haven't developed the ability to speak yet?

WELL THEN THAT'S ALL FINE AND DANDY I GUESS THEN
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I'm split
On one hand I'm for it because it's killing children
On the other I'm against it because it gives women a choice
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>>711788496
Rape? Or what if the baby will be born without arms and have a mental disorder? Broken condoms? Somebody replaced birth control with mints?
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>>711791552
Far east asian populations are still smarter than western populations, although that does pretty much just mean Japan, Korea and China
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>>711791355
You are a literal hillbilly retard
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>>711791621
>they understand negative reinforcement
>they don't understand negative reinforcement
Even fucking dogs understand bad behaviour when you yell at them.

Do you run around kicking your dog when it doesn't behave?
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>>711791658
ability to speak =/= ability to understand
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>>711791691
you are a literal pussy faggot
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>>711791689
>Far east asian populations are still smarter than western populations, although that does pretty much just mean Japan, Korea and China
In average, no. You cannot just pick the 99% percentile and say that because they are smarter than the 99% percentile of whites, then all of them are.

I mean, Japan is currently facing a massive decline in population because japanese men would rather masturbate to cartoons than fuck actual women. It's the same trend in South-Korea.

And China is filled with massive retards who think it's perfectly fine to shit on the subway.
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>>711791721
See >>711791712
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>>711791782
>he thinks using violence on kids make him alpha
KEK
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>>711790288
if I hit my wife with one of those simple pops, it should be ok then right?
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>>711791825
>I mean, Japan is currently facing a massive decline in population because japanese men would rather masturbate to cartoons than fuck actual women. It's the same trend in South-Korea.

A declining birth rate signalises extreme technological and social advancement, you can see the same thing in places like Germany, and the complete opposite in places like Africa
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>>711791854
>no one said shit about alpha
DUMBASS
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>>711791893
she is capable of reason
>you people should have been hit more. maybe you wouldn't be so autistic/retarded
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>>711788464
I know I'm late, but comparing the death penalty or kiking in war to abortion is retarded. People get the death penalty for committing major crimes, ones that involve innocent people being killed. And killing in war is either self defense or killing someone who has tried to or has already killed someone else. The moment these people decided to take another's life their life was up for grabs as well. Basically an unborn child is innocent, not people who deserve the death penalty
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>>711791976
All studies show that hitting children impairs their cognitive development.

You're the one that's so retarded you get verbally outmanoeuvred by a fucking kid so you have to assert dominance through violence instead.
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If you ban abortions you are going to need bigger jails.

In the UK, 2% of adults have been through the case system, but 40% of the prison population have. Unwanted and unloved kids are the robbers and addicts of the future.
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>>711787671

Personally I would not have any child of mine killed, but having the choice is a good thing. People can do whatever the fuck they want with their bodies and fetuses. That's none of my business.

Same with the homos. I pro pussy and would hate to get rear-ended by a huge alpha guy, but if some dude out there wants to take it in the ass; by all means please do.
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>>711792029
>Basically an unborn child is innocent,
Not according to the bible!

>not people who deserve the death penalty
Deserve, maybe. But plenty of cases where people on death row (or people who have been killed) are later found to be innocent.

Also, assisted suicide and euthanasia should be legal.
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>>711792066
>just like all polls said trump may as well drop out of the race right?
we stopped spanking kids and now we have the need for safe spaces and entitled little shits who think they deserve the world handed to them on a platter.
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>>711792066
>You're the one that's so retarded you get verbally outmanoeuvred by a fucking kid so you have to assert dominance through violence instead.
Fucking lost

Pure gold, anon.
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>>711792160
>polls done by """journalists""" and actual scientific studies are the same thing

>we stopped spanking kids and now we have the need for safe spaces and entitled little shits who think they deserve the world handed to them on a platter.
Europe does not have this issue.
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>>711792160
>Comparing random media polls to scientific papers and studies
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>>711791976
So thats the dividing line between assault and battery and loving care, whether or not a shitty parent can reason with their kid? Seems legit.
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>You're the one that's so retarded you get verbally outmanoeuvred by a fucking kid so you have to assert dominance through violence instead.

lol'd
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>>711792218
>implying europe isn't the biggest collection of these entitled fucks and that's not why they're currently being overrun my mudslimes
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>>711787671
Do you really think that every aborted baby wouldn't be loved and cared for IF they had the chance to be born?

Sure, there are some sociopaths out there, but 99.99% of aborted babies would live normal lives.
To answer your question, a fetus is one of the early stages of human growth, its still alive whether you like it or not.
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>>711788208
> an embryo is not a living human
It isn't
Nobody should fucking charge you chicken price when you buy eggs
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>>711792160
>we stopped spanking kids
You didn't. See >>711789030
>94% of American parents resort to corporal punishment,

>>711792294
See above. Also, you have violent jungle apes that are the cause of 83% of all the murders in the US, I don't know what you're on about.
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>>711792294
Not that guy but America has a fuck of a lot more SJW shit than Europe has, although it does still definitely exist in the entire western world
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>>711792419
hell no m8 you just see more because america is always in the spot light and ours are louder because they're american.
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>>711792312
>Do you really think that every aborted baby wouldn't be loved and cared for IF they had the chance to be born?
I'm not a sociopath, but I would carry a thinly veiled resent towards an unwanted and unexpected child for ruining my chance at getting the career and lifestyle I want. And I'm pretty sure that even though I would be able to care for that child and trick it into believing that it is loved, I would always carry some resentment for it.

I would also outright hate the women that didn't get the abortion and forced this child on me because she just didn't feel like getting an abortion.
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>>711787827
edgelord
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>>711792396
>94%
obvious made up stat. real number nowadays is probably around 30-40%
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>>711792496
I see more of SJW shit in America even though I live in the UK?

Just look at BLM, that shit blew up in America and spread around the world to the UK and Australia and shit, the exact same thing happened with feminism
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>>711792553
It's logical tbf

>Too many babies
>Too little food

Make the connection

If only humans weren't controlled entirely by emotional
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On one had I'm for abortion because it's murder.
On the other I'm against it because it's giving woman a choice.
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>>711792496
Your main problem is that college and university isn't free in the first place, so the people who can afford to go there and in addition afford getting a useless degree with no job aspects, are already entitled brats. That's the real secret why SJWs exists mainly on campus. Once their parents cuts them off after getting their degrees, they are forced to face reality and get a job.

In most of Europe, college and university is free (as in payed for through taxes), so virtually everyone who isn't a fucking fail@life gets a degree, even the useless degrees. So the useless degrees are filled with normal people, in addition to entitled brats.
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>>711792580
>i don't like it so it's obviously made up
I have a source, retard.

https://www.amazon.com/Behind-Closed-Doors-Violence-American/dp/1412805910
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>>711792645
>If only humans weren't controlled entirely by emotional
Spock ?
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>>711792553
We already feed pigs we eat other dead pigs. What's wrong with cannibalism?
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Webm related.

You're delusional if you don't think that fetuses are human life and worthy of a chance to experience life.
This is a healthy growing human life and is guaranteed to turn into an adult if left alone.
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>>711792763
>a biased book written with a specific agenda
wew
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>>711792868
Looks like it would feel good if you stuck your dick in that
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>>711791721
>>711791621
>tells kid it's bad behaviour to hit people
>tells kid it's bad behaviour to hit people by hitting it
>wonders why the kid is showing a lack of understanding and keeps hitting it
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>>711792876
Well, it sure trumps some random retard making up his own facts on /b/, so yes.
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>>711792314
This honestly
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>>711787719
topkek
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>>711792868
>Webm related.

That's a proven fake from an anti-abortion ad, you idiot.
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>>711793007
No its not you idiot, i have the full video with sound and background story. There are also plenty of other videos just like this.
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>>711793065
>i have the full video with sound and background story.
Post link or name or somewhere we can find it then.

>There are also plenty of other videos just like this.
Yes, they are frequent in anti-abortion propaganda.

>fully developed facial features and limbs
It's obviously fake as fuck.
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>>711793135
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c1e_1417828730
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>>711791034
>implying they have cowboys or superheroes in Europe
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>>711793561
>Implying anyone gives a fuck about cowboys
>Implying superheros are in any way unique to Murica
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>>711792519
Living it right now.
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>>711787671
Its wrong and shouldnt be allowed, women have wayy too much say in it
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>>711793561
Europe is not a country, its a continent with 50+ languages and hundreds of different cultures.
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>>711793675
>implying spaghetti westerns aren't a thing
>implying modern superheroes didn't originate in the US
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>>711793863
>implying anything I said implies otherwise
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>>711794073
No one "copies" anything to do with cowboys from America, which is what the conversation was about

And superheros are a result of many different factors and originate from a bunch of places, sure the main one's that are relevant currently come from the American film industry, but if your only example of how the world copies American culture is because superhero films are popular then you don't have much of a case
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>>711787671
>What do you think about abortion?
I don't.
>>
I'm anti-abortion. I won't use misleading terms like "pro-life" because I'm not pro life. I'm anti abortion from a natural, logical, and evolutionary standpoint. I don't give two shits when a fetus becomes sentient. I'm not sure when people decided it was ok to purposefully terminate the one thing you are here to create.

>inb4 god, I'm atheist
>inb4 repub, am libertarian

The thing is, I'm not sure where the governments place in this decision is. I don't feel it's acceptable that they help with it, but I do t think it's acceptable that they outlaw it.
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I have pretty mixed feeling on abortion. I'm all for killing babies, but I don't want to give women rights.
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>>711794383
>I'm not sure when people decided it was ok to purposefully terminate the one thing you are here to create.

Since we've had the presence of mind to realise we could, abortions have been occurring as long as Sapiens has existed.
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I'd like to think I contribute to 80% them.so pro not pulling out.murica
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>>711794073
You're right, you have superheroes, but that doesn't make you any less of a European country abroad.
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>>711794262
>not knowing what a spaghetti western is
>come from the American film industry
>not knowing what comic books are
>implying American cinema isn't the most popular in the world
>implying American music isn't the most popular in the world
>implying American television isn't the most popular in the world
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>>711787671

>every baby wanted
>never heard of adoption

Abortion is a bad solution for mitigating the symptoms of a wider disease.

1 in 20 women of child bearing age will have an unwanted pregnancy in the USA every year. Given how rich, developed and allegedly educated we are, why aren't we dealing with that instead of arguing about abortion?

If a fetus isn't a person with rights, why do people get double man slaughter charges if they kill a pregnant woman in a car accident?

The entire pro choice rhetorical structure is a joke. Feminists want women to not have babies so they invented choice.
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>>711794554
I've never seen such a triggered eurofag
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>>711794576
>>implying American cinema isn't the most popular in the world
>>implying American music isn't the most popular in the world
>>implying American television isn't the most popular in the world

Because America has an ungodly amount of money to waste on making and marketing that shit, not because the rest of the world wants it, the vast majority of American entertainment is ridiculed by people outside and inside of America
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>>711794554
>being this retarded
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>>711794576
>implying you don't have the advantage of speaking English as your first language, hence reaching out to a global audience with your movies.

There is a reason why Americans always do English remakes of European movies, because you don't want to watch a movie with subtitles.
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>>711794576
>implying American music isn't the most popular in the world
What is American music anyway? The majority of the ''American'' singers aren't even American, they just sing in English.
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>>711794671
So either you guys like American stuff or you're too poor to make your own
Fucking kek
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>>711794686
>you don't want to watch a movie with subtitles.

No shit! Who does?
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>>711794686
It's because we're better at making movies
Also by that logic shouldn't spanish movies be really popular?
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>>711794773
Yeah it's not like there's not already a shit ton of original entertainment in every country or anything amirite
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>>711794806
Exactly, and that's why the American movie business will always have more funding and bigger audience than say: Germany, Italy, or France.
Non-english movies always have a limited audience.
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Science:
Sperm (human, alive, dna of father and part of his body)
Egg (human, alive, dna of mother and part of her body, whole, complete, dependent on enviorment)
Sperm meets egg (human, alive, new genetic and epigenetic pattern, whole, complete, dependent on enviorment)

There's no confussion here, the baby independent of its level of development IS human the child IS alive and is not part of the body of the mother or father.

Once the life of the child is established the rest is clear.
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I like how this has turned from an abortion thread to a culture thread
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>abortion thread
>thread about abortion
>thread aborted
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>>711794922
And yet the American stuff is still more popular
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>>711794996
Someone took 9th grade health class
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>>711794996
>and is not part of the body of the mother
>Being this retarded
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>>711794771
Genres that originated in the US rock and all it's descendants, rap/hip-hop, jazz etc
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>>711795033
Kek
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>>711795099
Only rap is really popular anymore, and even then it's kind of more African culture than anything
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>>711795099
You mean like the Rolling stones, Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, The sex pistols, etc?

Or how about american classics like Aha: Take on me?
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>>711795167
*african American culture

Ftfy
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>>711795167
>African culture thing
>being this retarded
Kek
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>>711795099
Rock originated in the US?
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>>711795250
With the exception of the Sex Pistols (utter garbage anyways) all those acts are is rehashed American blues. Thank the nig nogs down south for that. Led zep is literally the biggest rip off band in rock history.
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>>711795302
Yes. British Homos were playing skiffle music before they started ripping off music from the American nigs
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>>711795443
Chuck berry's nig ass invented rock n roll. Right here In the states. Deal with it.
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>>711795526
Good argument

Still wrong though.

Jimmy page himself admits rock n roll cane from nigs in the states and until he started copying them he was playing, you guessed it, skiffle music.
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>>711795630
So basically all American culture and entertainment was created by blacks?
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>>711795250
>implying any of those bands were the first of their genre
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>>711795630
>Jimmy page himself admits
This is important because?
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>>711795302
Ever heard of Chuck Berry and Elvis Presley britfag?
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>>711795697
Well the music at least yeah
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>>711795800
Who? No one cares about your gay obscure hillbilly "musicians" outside of America
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>>711795697
All leftover musical culture with the exception of country music, yes. If the British contributed anything original (or at least semi original) it would be heavy metal. Thanks for Black Sabbath at least, you fucking fairies.
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What does it matter what I think about abortions? They might no longer exist after the Trump Presidency
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>>711795923
>Chuck berry
>hillbilly

Pick one.
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>>711795983
So he's increasing tax on nigs and religious people
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>>711787671
We do have democracy.
Abortion should just have a bit more "heavy" restriction in time.
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>>711795923
Uncultured britfag detected
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>>711796266
At least I don't need to use doublesize chairs
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