Electoral College: Make Hillary Clinton President on December 19
https://www.change.org/p/electoral-college-electors-electoral-college-make-hillary-clinton-president-on-december-19?recruiter=76399831&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=share_facebook_responsive&utm_term=des-lg-no_src-no_msg
>>711664517
I lost boo hoo. You better change the vote to what I want boo hoo.
Go to your safe spot you liberal piece of shit. The people have spoken and have said we are tired of you liberal bullshit and thinking you better than everyone else.. I actually hope you all kill yourselves. You would be doing the world a favor. If you don't like the way democracy works then move to another country. I'm sure the EU will take your sorry asses. They like pieces of shit like you.
>>711664872
>the people have spoken
>what is popular vote
>>711664872
i bet you're racist too
>>711664959
>what is the popular vote
Something that doesn't matter in the presidential election.
>>711664517
wow
such awareness
activisming to the max
>>711665083
No just sick and tired of you liberal cunts whining because you lost. You fuckers have done nothing but ruin this country and are to damn stupid to see it.
>>711664517
How long do you think a delegate that betrayed their duty would be allowed to live?
Are you really suggesting they commit a suicidal act just to make a whiny snowflake feel better?
>>711664959
>>711665098
Look up why we have electorals you retard. It's to keep one or two states from monopolizing and ruling the country. With the electoral every state is represented. That is why each state has only a specific amount of representatives to vote and they vote based on the popular vote in their state that votes for candidates. My go do you fucks do any reading or do you only listen to what the fucking lying ass media says?
>>711664517
Screw the electoral college. Who care what middle America voted for.
California has more people so its opinion should mater more than most.
>libcucks before nov 8
>TRUMP REFUSES TO SAY IF HE'LL CONCEDE IF HE LOSES!! A SMOOTH TRANSITION OF POWER IS THE BEDROCK OF OUR DEMOCRACY AND TRUMP IS UNDERMINING IT!! HES LITERALLY HITLER!!
>libcucks now
>#NOTMYPRESIDENT
>>711665555
Quads of truth
>>711665098
It is also not clear, if Clinton would have won if the system had been based on popular vote.
People adjust their behavior according to the rules of the game. E.g. with the current system of "winner takes all" it does not make sense for a democrat supporter to vote in Texas or a republican in California.
>>711664517
Anyone who signs this shit should be deported. Good chance to get rid of the cancer that makes america so shit.
>>711665555
you're being mean, please stop.
>>711665555
The truth has been spoken!
>>711665083
Can you actually kill your snobby spoiled sheltered fucking self?
>>711665821
>Liberals riot streets and burn all hell down
>You're being mean
Hillary lost. The whole DNC is fired. We're starting from scratch.
>>711665821
nope. Liberals have ran this country for too long and ruined too fucking much. The silent majority has had enough of their crybaby shit.
>>711665805
If you paid any attention to history, Texas used to vote Democrat and California used to vote Republican.
>>711665975
how about you stop being racist?
>>711666114
Technically we aren't the majority. We are just the ones who cared enough about the country to vote.
The majority, whomever they are, are still silent.
>>711666114
>ruined too fucking much
>saved your dumb ass from your last president's misguided war and deregulation of the lending markets to cause the collapse of our entire economy
pick one
>>711665809
They should all be sent to the EU. They both love multiculturalism, refugees and terrorists.
>>711665555
fuck you and fuck your candyass gay ideas fuckard
as is written in the democracy manifest
DON'T TOUCH MY PENIS
Who cares about the republicans? Hillary won the popular vote. Trump doesn't deserve to be president! He's a bigot and should be put to jail for raping a child
>>711666114
>liberals ran this country
>houses controlled by republicans
k
>>711666207
Yes there are still some silent. But the fact still is that there were a lot more voters this time then there has been in decades. A large portion of that is the silent majority speaking up.
>>711666234
Ruined to fucking much. You didn't save shit.
>>711666114
>>>711666114
>Technically we aren't the majority. We are just the ones who cared enough about the country to vote.
>The majority, whomever they are, are still silent.
>>711666114
>ruined too fucking much
>saved your dumb ass from your last president's misguided war and deregulation of the lending markets to cause the collapse of our entire economy
pick one
See? You/re wrong. Now stop being mean.
Millions and millions of votes across the country don't matter, a few thousand signed a petition!!!!
>this is what lefties actually believe
>>711666309
>implying the popular vote is a thing
>implying your opinion matters in the voting process
>>711664959
Popular vote is automatically disregarded in any election with more than two choices.
>>711664872
>boohoo
>>711665567
California also has more seats in the house faggot
>>711666309
Case for raping a child got dropped. But hey you tried.
Well get ya a clean diaper and put you down for a nap
>>711664959
Where were you when Barack Obama got the delegates but Hillary got the popular vote?
>>711666320
Politicians are all corrupt you dipshit. They vote the way the ones putting money in their campaign funds want them too.
If you liberal fuck wanted to make a real change you would make it so that after every election all campaign funds for the office they are running for be audited and publicly available and turned over to the US treasury and make them have to live under the laws they create and pass after they leave office. Then you would see a more honest representative in both the democrats and republicans.
I swear the full figures give Trump a popular win too?
>>711666721
No it did not. Nice try tho anon
>>711666792
Kek
this was a trump.
>>711666508
At least I'm not a liberal. If i was I'd be out rioting and beating innocent people up because I didn't get my way.
Trump won the electoral and popular votes why are deluded lefties begging for democracy to be flushed down the lav? These arseholes would be better off in the DPRK
>>711664959
>the people have spoken
>what is popular vote
Oh! It's 2000 all over again. Time for a history lesson and hear people debating why it's wrong since it doesn't agree with their demands.
Don't even have to read the thread to know that's already going on. If you don't have the guns and willingness to die for your cause, this thought has just as much significance as it did in 2000.
Rinse and repeat.
>>711666828
>being this mad
and how am i supposed to do that, wise guy?
>>711666583
Thank you
>>711664517
STOP SPREADING PROPAGANDA
THAT WOULD TRIGGER A CIVIL WAR IN WHICH REPUBLICANS HAVE ALL THE GUNS , AND THE ARMY AND POLICE ARE ON OUR SIDE. REAL SMART RETARDS...
>>711666613
sarcasm you idiot...please shoot yourself you are so dumb
>>711666114
Yeah because Obama got us into an irrelevant war to fight 'terror.' Obama allowed the housing markets to collapse and fuck up the entire thing for everyone. Obama wasn't bringing us back from the shit storm the previous president made. Now we're going to have to do it all again once your puppet president Trump fucks it all up again and have you bitches complain about it once the Dems start fixing the inevitable damage trump will cause. Enjoy the pack of lies trump sold you faggot
>>711664517
You realize that there are 325000000 people in the USA right? If even 10 million sign that would be 10,000,000/325,000,000=0.03% of the population. There's more transgender people than your whole movement. 1%=32,500,000 of the us population. Both the democrats and republicans want to keep the USA intact and business as usual. They may "fight" but they fight for control of what is done with everyone's tax dollars. If you actually belive there will be some big sweeping movement to change anything and potentially start a civil war you are dilusional. The democrats submitted to the election and with out an actual leader willing to seize control and deal with all trumps supporters, and moderate democrats not wanting a revolution, the us army and police forces country wide your fucked. Enjoy your delusions and watch this video to understand how governments actually work
>>711664517
Kill your self
>>711666612
Actually he didn't lose the popular vote by a lot. That is media bias bullshit.
>>711666941
Nothing happened it 2000 you dick
>>711665567
Cali's opinion mattered the most during the election... was worth 55 electoral votes
>>711666861
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit-dropped-230770
But hey, you came out of your safe space. Here's a trophy.
>>711664517
This would be a catastrophe. The end of the Union, and worldwide turmoil for decades. There is no good outcome if this happens, every state that voted Trump would revolt. I don't think Hillary, even with her swollen ego, would accept the office in this scenario. Trump would be screaming for blood, and his voters would be behind him.
>>711666861
uninformed much?
>>711666928
Isn't that what Donald does?
>>711666861
yeah it did retard
>>711666998
It's not that obvious when almost every person has no idea what is going on
>>711666828
>>711666943
no answer huh
big talk conservative
>>711667123
>republican news site. Yeah good one anon, I am still not buying your shit
>>711666943
Petitions and talking to your representatives just like you do when you want to make some bullshit bill. Special interest groups lobby all the time. Basically lobby for it. Do you understand how government works?
>>711666792
There's a difference between the general election and the primaries.
>>711667006
You were eating the pack of lies Hillary and the DNC were feeding you.
>>711664517
>Because the riots aren't bad enough right now.
Can you imagine what would happen if they went along with this? Thousands of angry trump supporters with guns vs thousands of the current rioters. What a mess.
>>711667228
Y'know there is more than one source for this shit right?
Use Google to find what you need, then come back and complain about something else lefty
>>711667216
Watch hillary is going to win faggot
>>711667166
That is Hillary supporters. Do more than listen to the local news. They lie and are bias as hell. especially CNN and FOX.
>>711667344
>Y'know there is more than one source for this shit right?
Yeah sure more republican news sites. Dumb fag
>>711667228
Not the first time you've managed to stay ignorant I bet. I also wager you unfriended half your family on Facebook even though you live in your parents basement who are Trump supporters.
>>711667048
Thats his point
>>711666943
>>711667223
Did you read it dumb ass? Here it is.
>>711667273
>>711666309
/b is pro raping of children, didn't you know?
>>711666941
>>711667048
lolwut?
>>711667273
>do you understand how government works?
the irony.
why do you act like i can lobby and make bills.
unless you are talking about an initiative process(which you can also propose).
>>711667048
You could change the number to 2016 and I wouldn't argue with that. If you summed up every year as nothing happened, maybe you'd understand there's something fundamentally flawed about framing a government that didn't foresee a two party division that requires 2/3rd's to make real changes.
>>711666838
Final Popular Votes: Trump 62,972,266
Hillary: 62,277,750
>>711667557
im guessing you dont have an education since you cant see the different time each was posted.
conservatives haha
>>711667474
You realize Obama legalized propaganda right? This is why everyone was so surprised that all the polls and mainstream media was so full of shit. The gov't lied and spun the narritive they wanted to drill into the publics head. If you put any faith in mainstream media sources you may as well be out rioting because you bought into the lies
>>711667594
You can lobby and and make bills. How do you think stupid shit like the Brady bill came into being?
>>711664959
if it goes to popular vote we'll just make sure there aren't as many of you next time
>>711667428
So the news made Donald a racist and not because of the things he said or did?
>>711667701
>The original legislation was introduced into the House of Representatives by Representative Charles E. Schumer
>representative
who do you think i am, retard?
>>711665567
>California has more people so its opinion should mater more than most.
and it did.. wasn't enough though.
>>711667679
Fake af. Nice try again anon
>>711664959
imagine if europe has an election and A wins by votes from all over the europe but then the B says that since germany and france voted for him(the 2 countries with the biggest population) he should be the president...
fact is all of those sjw that just lost their way for labeling and bullying people with their ideology are doing everything they can to make hillary a president..
It's going to work guys. Once the petition reaches the 4.5M mark, the electors will definitely change their states vote.
>>711667609
Official citation would be nice. All the main stream media stopped updating their maps once he eeked past with enough electoral votes, downplaying the landslide it was.
>>711667775
Just like the news helped to cover up the bullshit Hillary did. You think the news don't lie? I'll give you an example.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=fcc_1471477230
Also I don't recall these on the news either.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVN6UVSiNIs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGj_9jHHanM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6c30KjatGk&feature=youtu.be
There is a lot more.
>>711666838
especially after you factor in how many felons and illegals voted for Hillary
>>711664517
Please don't. American Politicians need to wake up. And trump president is the only way that will happen. Next election we will get the candidates that matter.
>>711667788
And who do you think lobbied him to do it? You think he did it all on his own? It was that cucks wife that lobbied him to do it.
>>711664517
>Lets have a civil war, the thread.
Just gotta change Ohio and Florida. Remember, an internet petition changed the results in the 1993 presidential election.
>>711667898
Haha nice bait. Any petition will have to prove all the signers are usa citizens first off and not from other country's. Then they have to be legal to vote. No 16 year old Edgy teens, no convicted criminals etc. They will have to have their personal info recorded etc. You are litterally waisting your own time. The rest of the world is moving on
>>711668070
again, what the fuck does that have anything to do with me.
>>711668147
You asked the question I gave you the answer.
>>711667228
>politico
>republican
When the fuck did /b/ get infested with so many uninformed liberal reddit faggots?
>>711668112
That is what I'm trying to do, thank you.
>>711668223
>who do you think i am, retard?
was the question.
conversation over
>>711668225
They came for the cuck thread and accidentally landed in this thread
>>711668035
You have no idea how that works, do you?
>>711664517
SHE WON THE POPULAR VOTE.
There is no reason Trump should be President.
hahahahahahahahahahaha
>>711668112
You got a source on that?
>>711666721
that moment when rape and racism has become accepted under our new digital age Mussolini
>>711668346
She actually lost the popular vote as well. Look it up dick face.
>>711664517
Trump won fair and square and now he gets to fuck the USA. If we the people cared about our countries future then we have gone to the polls and elected someone other than Trump or Hillary.
>>711665083
>i bet you're racist too
We keep telling you, *This is why you lost*.
See this shit stain you just wrote?
>i bet you're racist too
THIS SHIT YOU DROPPED IN THE BATHROOM!!!
>i bet you're racist too
/Spanks the living shit out of the dog in the bathroom and throws it back in the corner and puts fresh newspaper down.
>>711668412
She has over 600,000 more votes than he does, dumbass.
>>711668346
Funny thing is that it will never happen. It would be a clear violation of the constitution and all the other states that voted for Trump would succeed from the union with a civil war and then many liberals and BLM members would die along with several corrupt politicians.
>>711665567
>bait
>specifically, beaner bait
>>711664517
Of all the dumb left wing sjw protests ive seen, the idiots protesting trumps election are actually the most retarded. If you want to protest when he actually does something like enters office and builds a wall then go ahead, peaceful protest is a legitimate part of any democracy. But what they are actually protesting now is literally the democratic process and the vote of the american people. They are saying the majority of americas opinion matters less than their own, like some spoiled brat child they cry because everything didnt go their way. I hope the police tear gas every last one
>>711668412
I guess Donald supporters don't know how to count
>>711664517
Interestingly, a person could win the US election with as little as 22% of total votes, if they won 50.01% of votes in key states, and 0% in every state they lost. The liklihood of such an outcome would be near impossible though, but it is a little disturbing, especially when you consider not every state gets the same electoral representation. Wyoming has 142,000 people per electoral vote, while New York and California have more like 500,000+ people per vote.
Bait, but regardless. It's not like people from other countries can't vote in an online poll, right?
>>711668412
http://heavy.com/news/2016/11/popular-vote-clinton-trump-hillary-2016-2012-2008-uncounted-ballots-electoral-college-presidential-election-results-california/
Donald Trump 60,350,241 (47.3%)
Hillary Clinton 60,981,118 (47.79%)
That’s a difference of 630,877 votes. (In favor of Clinton, since you are bad at math)
>>711665971
>Land area is more important than population
Idiots
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6s7jB6-GoU
Dude shut up and realise that hillary is the elite of your country and destroying it, Feeding you properganda from day one, Go with trump, Even though his policies affect the minorities of your "great country" He wants peace and for once, freedom as a whole will come out. Just give it time dude, Trump #1
is there a counter petition?
>>711668642
As far as I understand it they are still counting mail in votes, over seas military votes etc. The final totals are posted nov 29th. She may still maintain the popular vote lead after that but it's not fully counted as of yet officially
>>711668526
Yep it's about the equivalent of a small town. Now spread that all over the US it don't amount to shit.
630877 / 52 = 12132.25
Now take 12132.25 and break that down as votes in every voting district in the US..
>>711664517
No, they won't.
And if they do, 1776 shall commence again.
You think pissed off liberals are bad? Wait til you see pissed off Americans.
>>711668526
that 600,000 is less than .0053% of the total population in america
>4 million people signed this shit
>Elijah (((Berg)))
>>711668903
Did you mean Sanders?
>>711668967
The election results
>>711665083
This is wild speculation
>>711668642
Guess you have no clue how to do math.
>>711668526
600,000 more votes doesn't mean shit when 3 million of the are from illegal voters.
>>711669077
Still means she won the popular vote.
Period.
>>711669297
I'm curious to see how many dead people voted for Hillary again this time.
>>711665805
Which is exactly why I, a registered Republican in California, voted for Trump in the primaries but did not vote in the general election.
>>711669297
You don't know how it works, do you?
Electoral college gave us the two worst presidents ever George Bush Jr. and Donald Cuck Trump. Popular vote should be the decider.
>>711669339
Coming in second place don't count.
>>711669394
You forgot LBJ and Obama, Clinton, Carter also.
>>711669339
popular vote by less than .0053% of the population, thats the equivalent of one city. thats why there's an electoral vote, so just ONE CITY and the other large cities cant monopolize the country.
>>711669528
All of those won the popular vote except LBJ. Who was a Texan cuck.
>>711669394
But it isn't, and would need a 2/3 majority (in congress I believe) to pass.
And if it did, it would count for future elections, not for this one.
She would need 38 electors to switch. That;s 2-3 entire state delegations. It's never going to happen. She might take one or two electors here and there that can't stomach voting Trump. But it will never be enough.
More importantly, they shouldn't faithlessly elect Clinton. By the rules of our representative Democracy, she lost. Voting against the state delegation that they represent would be a disgusting abuse of power, regardless of what the national popular vote result was. The electors don't represent the nation, they represent their state. That's how a representative democracy works. On top of that, it would start a civil war. I voted Clinton, I hate the shit sandwich that we're stuck with, but we ARE stuck with it.
>>711669561
And they were all still fucked up and sucked ass.
>>711667352
She already lost though.
>>711669394
You do understand why popular vote is shit, right?
>>711664517
This petition is bullshit, anyone can sign it, regardless of if theyre a US citizen. And if you're not from the US then fuck off trying to choose a foreign countries leader
>>711664517
But hillary is corrupt as fuck. Sure donald is unqualified to be president but I'd rather have trump who mostly says what he thinks then lying and manipulative hillary.
>>711669560
"Majority shouldn't rule unless I'M the majority!"
>>711669618
They didn't suck ass as much as Trump and George W. Bush. They were all okay presidents. Trump and Bush were our two worst presidents ever.
>>711669394
Both political party's would fully focus on just a few city's when campaigning and fuck the rest of the country. It would devolve into a pandering contest between the two party's promising perks for just the city folk and totally ignoring the rest of the country. You know, where all the food is grown and resources are mined/harvested. cotys are not self sustaining entity's
>>711669648
Popular vote is great. It would have saved us from the current disaster. We are all literally going to die in WW3 and a Depression thanks to Cuck the president.
>>711664872
Fuck off conservative faggot. Your old puckered sweet potato messiah has already backed off deporting 11 million, building a wall, and prosecuting Clinton. And those coal mining jobs - Mitch McConnell said 2 days ago those jobs ain't coming back. Relaxing regulations on coal doesn't mean private enterprise will return. That means Trump can't force the coal mines to reopen.
>>711669694
trump hasnt even done anything yet lmao
>>711669694
How can you call him one of the worst when he hasn't even taken office?
>>711669694
kek what is this how the radical left actually thinks
>>711664517
Why not Joe over Hillary. Joe isnt bought by the big banks or the Saudis. Joe just loves Tigers.
>>711669754
So you have no idea
>>711669754
You do realize Hillary was the one pushing for ww3 right?
She was the one actively supporting the rebels in Syria causing discord over there, threatening with no fly zones and be aggressive with russia.
If you want to avoid ww3, be happy she didn't become president.
>>711664959
if Clinton had 270 EC votes
and Trump had the popular vote, would you still think popular vote should rule?
>>711666150
Yes but in its current state, California is predominantly democratic. I, a registered Republican in California, voted for Trump in the primaries but did not feel compelled to vote in the general election. Reason one being that the probability of my vote changing the decision of my state was astronomically low. Reason two being that I might not be living in California in the near future. I have a great new job with a worldwide corporation who is willing to help is employees move. In conclusion your argument is irrelevant because of the current situation. The past political trends of the state are not representative of the current trends.
>>711669694
The bushes all sucked ass. I didn't vote for any of them retarded fucks. Wasn't old enough for LBJ but in sure I wouldn't have voted for that cuck and I didn't vote for Clinton, Obama or Carter either. I normally vote independent because both sides are too fucked up. Only reason I voted Trump this time was Hillary would have destroyed what is left of this country that I fought to defend.
I'm registered as an independent because I can think for myself and I don't need a party to tell me who to vote for.
>>711669754
trump wants to avoid conflict with russia
hillary wants to start conflict with russia
trump=peaceful negotiations
hillary=ww3
>>711669988
So many doubles......Jesus
>>711669806
Then why are you libtards still crying like little bitches?
>>711669969
Thank you.
>>711669941
Who dat faggot?
>>711669988
quad dubs have spoken!
a valid point has been made plebs
>>711670185
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc-_7RCFArM
>>711670124
I'm not crying. I'm just breaking shit up around the house.
>>711669682
You come off as... retarded
>>711669969
Why did we go to Iraq?
Despotic leader killing his own people to sustain a completely unpopular regime.
Assad is killing tens of thousands of people, you want us to say "Fuck it, do what you want we don't give a fuck"?
I went to Iraq and Afghan dude.
I agree, fuck'em.
>>711670231
Nope they wouldn't say shit. They would defend the electoral voting and democracy instead.
>>711669806
He's going to pull more people in with a softer line on deportations. The majority of liberals are not hardened far left. If there was any support for that the petition OP is shilling would have more signatures that Hillary votes counted so far. It shows actually just how many people actually are hardened supporters to Hillary's campaign. There are only 4.5 million zealous supporters of your view.
4,500,000/325,000,000=0.0138% of the country population feels this strong about this. Not including all the underage, non citizens etc who signed. Don't get lost in your own echo chamber
>>711670346
Indeed no need to go to syria and iraq. Let ISIS establish their rule
>>711666309
I'm sure many people care about Republicans. Including but not limited to Republicans themselves. Hillary may have won the popular vote, however that is irrelevant because presidential elections in the united states are not decided by popular vote. Do you have proof that Trump is a bigot? I'm assuming not because if you did then you would have presented it. He does not deserve to be put in jail because the rape allegations were dropped. Furthermore Hillary Clinton deserves to be put in jail due to being guilty of having classified documents on a private email server. But good try.
>>711670389
There are also Clinton supporters like myself who abhor and will oppose Trump every step of the way, but also know that the petition is utterly worthless. Trump won under the system in place. Instead of wasting my time whining, I'm preparing for 2018.
>>711665555
>My go do you fucks do any reading or do you only listen to what the fucking lying ass media says?
This.
Why should an area of the nation that equals a tiny fraction of the country represent the entire nation when the cultures, values, and ways of life in the very few places (in landmass) that voted for Hillary is often dramatically completely different from literally everywhere else?
>>711670273
I think there is a law that says if you are broke you can't run for president.
odds fap evens sleep
>>711670346
Freedom don't come free. When / if they ever wanted freedom they would rise up and fight for it. I never agree with fighting other countries wars for had freedom over. They are like kids. When you give them shit for free they have no respect for it. When they work for it they appreciate it and try and take care of it.
>>711670346
Well the real reason we went to war in Iraq is because that country wanted to get of the petrodollar system and go around the US dollar we impose onto them.
Not saying sadam was a good guy. Just don't think the US does anything in the middle east that doesn't have to do with the petrodollar system.
>>711670473
I agree.
>>711670346
>weapons of mass destruction
>Kek
If you think the USA gov't gives a shit about dieing people you are sadly mistaken. Why was Hillary accepting funds from Saudi Arabia? To show support for how they treat their women and gay population?
>>711670569
Dont tell me I cant run! Now one of you guys go make me.. I mean Joe a change petition.
>>711670551
Senator Anon for Congress?
>>711664517
>Libtards are STILL shittershattered after getting BTFO on Nov. 8
>"M-muh popular vote"
>"Ignore those other votes, MINE is more important"
She lost 2/3 of the states. Both her electoral and popular votes were inflated drastically by a single state, California. No matter which way you cut it, she got obliterated by a guy that the media proclaimed "didn't stand a chance".
>>711670473
The US created ISIS.
We went in trained rebels, armed them to cause problems for the USSR in Afghanistan. Then after that was over we pulled out creating a power vacuum and now there's this trained religious zealous group that we are now having to deal with.
The US created its own enemy.
>>711667166
Well I don't know. Have you ever seen or heard about Donald Trump personally beating someone up? Because I sure haven't.
>>711664517
looks like TRUMP won the popular vote once you cancel out the Illegals because their votes do not count.
this is like explaining to niggers that they are 13% of the population and makeup for 50% of crimes. now consider that its mostly black males, so minus the children and women, black males that make up 3-5% of the nigger population are committing 50% of the crimes, and these are just for violent crimes!
but im racist cause i said the illegals need to be kicked out
>>711670712
Considering it, actually. I'm in a deep red state, but a purple district. So I'm exploring a house run.
>>711670701
Nobody is going to elect a gay guy with a bum leg who owns 2 oversized kitties.
does any one but hurt of trumps win live in the uk?
if so kindly shut the fuck up, you had no issue when a regional / state vote system meant UKip only got one seat when they where the 3rd most popular voted party!
you can not have it both ways! it must either be state / regional OR representative voting.
shut. the. fuck. up!
>>711669070
so fucking edgy
>>711667798
The amount of pure truth in this post makes me moist
>>711670551
That is a reasonable way to see it. If there is a better argument to be made by another party they have a good chance of being voted into power. Obviously the current course didn't work and the democrat party will have to be scrapped and remade to be relevant. Keep in mind the vast majority of people are not far right or left. The run away progressive left culture is way out of touch with the majority's views. Someone more classical liberal or a JFK type could do very well. America will not elect a socialist type government as far as I can see it. It's too far off from the bulk of the populations views
>>711669070
kek i just cringed so fucking hard
Ha Ha very funny Friend here is a video for you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SayTCWttywU
Stupid people
To Win a popular vote you must win over 50% of the vote,
He didn't get that and neither did she, so she still lost
>>711669070
Shit bro. You made me tinkle in my Calvin Klein undies from sheer terror.
>>711670772
For some reason the descendants of illiterate slaves and then onto forced segregation, and extreme prejudice have a tendency commit crimes. Such a mystery, it must be because of their inferior craniums.
>>711664517
>Electoral College: Make Hillary Clinton President on December 19
It's irrelevant... a Republican congress gets to vote on accepting or rejecting the electoral college vote... The Republicans will not take Clinton over Trump...
>>711670760
>Illegals voted
How is that shit even possible? Don't you have to register to vote? And doesn't that require you to be a citizen?
I've never voted if you haven't noticed.
>>711671160
Ya look at Africa. What a peaceful utopia. See what homogenous black country's can achieve?
>pic related
>>711665555
Listen to the quads, cause they speak the truth
>>711671278
The fuck is the deal with greenland?
>>711671278
Wut up with Greenland.
>>711664517
Does anyone signing that petition even understand the reality behind a faithless elector? Do they understand the fucking rarity of an elector switching sides? Do they not understand how insulting it would be to the people of a state if their electors ignored their voice and voted however they wanted to for sheer lulz?
Elections rarely have any faithless electors, and even if it does happen there is usually only one who does the act out of principle or symbolism. The sheer stupidity for liberals to bank their hopes on over 35 electors to go rogue is absolutely staggering. They literally CANNOT deal with the fact that they lost, so they're believing in fairy tales to pretend that they can still beat the big bad boogeyman Trump.
>>711671340
Not sure. Just pulled the pic from wiki. People must loose their shit being stuck in darkness and the cold for most of the year. Also Vikings
>>711671340
>>711671342
Small sample size. One guy killing his 5 person family would make Greenland that colour.
>>711671415
Apologies: small population.
>>711671278
>that dark blue Russia
Shieeeeeet.
>>711670994
Exactly my stance. The Democratic party has two warring factions right now. You have the Centrist borderline neocons and you have the socialist far left. There is no classic liberal anymore. We need candidates who support small government in our private lives while supporting just the right level of regulation of corporate interests without going so far to the left that those corporate interests can't survive and prosper.
>>711670760
Assuming those illegals didn't belong to trump....
>>711671487
Yes. I'm totally open to a classical liberal candidate. The left has spiralled so far from their roots and used the radicalized far left as a weapon to brow beat any who do not conform. This is a serious problem also in my opinion. The slow march through the university's and Fabian socialism has slowly crept into America and is destroying its original values that built it in the first place. You think sjw culture changed the country from log cabins and horse drawn buggies in the 1800's to reaching the moon in the 1960's? The original classical liberal and conservitive values created the most amazing civilization in only 100 years time.
>>711667274
That's such a disingenuous comment, try harder
>>711671366
Actually electors have voted against what their state has voted for many times.
>>711671237
Not in every state, some states don't require ANY ID.
Hopefully Trump fixes this.
>>711671366
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithless_elector
It happens fairly often. That's only a representation of the states with laws that require electors to listen to their states.
>>711664517
Nothing white people love more than petitions for shite dat don't matter
>>711672069
Still preferable to black forms of protests aka. rioting and looting areas and people who had nothing to do with the issue.
>>711664517
Ugh you guys really can't take a lost. Omg no wonder liberal idealolgies are falling down the gutter. Pure democracy is mob rule. The 51% make all the decisions. Voters vote for what is in their best interest not for the interests of society. The founders knew this and established a electoral college for this very reason. How can you have a civil society without protecting the voice of the minority?
>pro tip: YOU CAN'T
>>711672170
Why would you complain about this? It's fun as fuck to make them cry. I hope they boohoo for the next 8 years.
>>711672157
Couldn't agree more, was only responding to OP not unloading my entire opinions
>>711664517
>>711672170
>>711672212
>>711672250
Go back to /pol/ you fucking crybabies.
How about no Electoral College and no Hillary.
>>711672333
Say "please daddy" and i"ll think about it you filthy globalist.
>>711665555
Quads speak truth.
Look at that shit, dubs dubs quads. You must be Trump himself
>>711665555
>That's not what it does though. Theory and practice are a bit different here
>>711671782
We have to drop the SJW attitude. You can support marriage equality, pay equality, and trans rights without bullying anyone with a dissenting opinion.
We need to adopt a more reasonable stance on gun control. Banning specific varieties of weapons is not a solution, it's picking a fight you can't win.
How we have let the libertarians beat us to the weed legalization stance is beyond me. We should have been all over that years ago.
Bottom line, keep the government out of our private lives.
Meanwhile, instead of focusing on raising taxes on the wealthy, focus on closing tax loopholes at the top. The problem isn't that taxes aren't high enough, the problem is that, after loopholes and deductions, no one at the top is paying anywhere close to their full tax rate.
Meanwhile, we stop subsidizing multi-billion dollar corporations like Walmart and increase penalties for companies and banks that violate the law. We can't have banks that make a multi-million dollar profit illegally only get slapped with a fine of a few hundred thousand dollars.
>>711664517
Why are they protesting American democracy. We've almost always used this system. It usually works out. These Liberals clearly don't understand why the electoral college exist. It's to protect us from ourselves!
>>711668505
They won't listen.
Shame, really.
>>711668708
Retard muricans belief so yeah.
Democracy for every km2, I'm sorry ft2
>>711671415
What color? Black.
>>711672333
How the fuck does me saying whites love petitions and blacks love rioting and me thinking both are retarded make me a cry baby? You sir are that stage beyond a faggot.
You ..... are...... A SUPER NIGGER FAGGOT
>>711671333
My trips confirm the quads, you cant deny it liberal fags
>>711671278
so much cognitive dissonance
>>711672507 this
>>711672654
You mean straw man
>>711672654
Your right. They have the world's lowest murder rates. Equal to Detroit and Chicago and there is no relation what so ever
>>711671333
Quads and trips have spoken.
/thread
>>711669077
35% of the population voted. you have no idea if the other 65% wanted who
>>711664517
Fuck off Jew
>>711664517
Would make much more sense to extend election to make all registered voters actually vote.
>>711672957
Because most dead people don't vote.
>>711664517
>believing those petitions can actually change the result of the election
>>711664517
It doesn't matter we lost this battle, the fight we should be fighting is to remove the electoral college altogther
>>711672507
That would be a start. I personally believe in people taking responsibility and self ownership. The smaller gov't the better. I don't think the gov't has any right one way or the other to dictate what anyone can do to their own body. You want to do drugs? Go ahead. You own your own body and can choose what you want to do with yourself but if you develop a habit you take ownership of your poor choices. You own your own body and have the right to protect yourself, your property and your family. You want to carry a gun perfect. You use it in a violent way and initiate any violence you own your actions and suffer the concequences. I'm up in the air about government involvement in cooperations. The reason the USA dominates the world currently is because of the government subsidizing corporations and trade embargoes. It's a duel edge sword in that respect. If the government and corporations are split it will negatively affect US economic rule bit at the same time it is what has created a global elite that are getting carried away and I don't want the world to become a corporate monarchy down the road. The federal reserve bank and fractional reserve banking is the biggest cancer in the world and leading everyone into slavery.
>>711671694
Why would they vote for the man saying he will deport them?
>>711664517
Hello, stupid uneducated fucking liberal.
I'm not even going to bother explaining the democratic and constitutional process of how presidents have been elected in America for hundreds of years, but I will point out something far more clear:
Most of those signatures are from like-minded retards from other countries ((((people who are irrelevant to your democracy and do not share the same constitutional right to vote as an American as they are not American)))), and this petition, like you, is absolutely fucking demented if you think it holds any sway in the electoral college's decision.
But please keep signing it, I really hope you reach 4.5M signatures, and I hope I can pin-point every single stupid fuckwit by seeing who shares this shit on Facebook.
>>711664517
>change.org
lol it won't happen faggot. Trump is the next president.
>>711673768
Idiot. If you can be legally deported you cannot vote anyway.
>>711664517
sounds like a good idea. The Founders set it up to have an additional vote by Electors precisely to prevent the election of someone dangerously unfit for the office. Now seems like the perfect time for it.
>>711666792
damn, sucks to be Hillary
>>711675000
they had and still have it as a check against the representatives. it is only supposed to be used in court as a means of overturning if the popular vote is wildly out of line with what the representatives laid out, i.e. hillary winning by 20 million votes or 10 million, or even 3 million, would be enough to question. but a few hundred thousand, INCLUDING the illegal immigrant votes in southern california where she dominated the population of illegals, is nothing. she wins nothing.
>>711664517
Fuck off shill
>>711667992
>>711673483
they can't and even worse, trump will be impeached and we'll be stuck with pence.
>>711675533
Abortion is murder for the sake of convenience, it SHOULD be illegal.
>>711675533
back off of daddy pence
>>711664959
What is california. Clinton wkn california. How come people cant understand this?
>>711675591
fuck off Jesus freak. How many abortions you suppose trump has paid for with all his jiggery pokery?
>>711664872
>>711664959
Ummmm, final count is in if anyone doesn't know but trump won both so...no way in hell it can be reversed.
>>711675710
It's not religious to think live begins at conception. It's called fucking conception, we just draw an arbitrary line to justify killing another human being.
>>711668708
>Representation divided fairly among all state interests is fairer than pandering to the needs of a handful of states.
ftfy
>>711666309
But she didn't win the popular vote. The final count shows trump swept by 800,000 popular votes. Don't you keep up on reality?
>>711675449
Not sure what you're on about.
The point of electors having a vote is to prevent the people someone dangerously unfit for the office:
"It was desirable that the sense of the people should operate in the choice (of President) ... It was equally desirable, that the immediate election should be made by men most capable of analyzing the qualities adapted to the station, and acting under circumstances favorable to deliberation, and to a judicious combination of all the reasons and inducements which were proper to govern their choice. A small number of persons, selected by their fellow-citizens from the general mass, will be most likely to possess the information and discernment requisite to such complicated investigations."
http://www.constitution.org/fed/federa68.htm
Put more shortly, the people at large should have a say in the choice, but then the Electors should be a select group of smarter guys who can override that choice if the people do something too stupid.
If there was ever a time for the electors to fulfill that duty, it seems like now.
>>711676008
I hope your sister gets raped by a nigger and knocked up then we'll see how you feel about abortion.
>>711675879
>trump won the popular vote
This statement is false.
> if dubs kek has spoken
>>711670346
It was more because Saudi Arabia didn't want a strong, united Iraq contesting its' strategic chokehold on the oil market. People in Iraq miss Saddam, life there is even worse now because they went from some stability under distasteful leadership to no stability under no leadership.
As a veteran, you deserve to know the truth. It's not your fault but more would have been achieved by having Saddam inside the tent pissing out.
>>711676008
>conception
It is also called fertilization impregnation and insemination. There is nothing special about that word that means the birth will be viable or that it is already a human.
>>711676087
You'll see.
>>711664517
yawn, the children are crying.
>>711664517
You lost faggot
>>711676281
>or that it is already a human.
THIS
Not trying to be edgy but...
Spend some time with an infant.
Yes, they're cute.
Yes, it touches some instinctual part of you as a person.
Yes, the baby has limitless potential.
BUT...
Even out of the womb, it's still very much in the formative phase.
It's a blank canvas, a shapeless lump of clay.
An adult dog is more of a "person" than a baby, and you won't get in much trouble if you kill one of them.
>>711665971
Im really surprised by the power of the media in most high populated cities.
It seems like is more easy for them if you are in a big flock of sheeps.
>>711676328
You'll see
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/clintons-popular-vote-lead-will-grow-and-grow/507455/
>>711664517
>hillary
>president
AAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAHAHA..
Good luck, looser
>>711664517
PoCs and fags are such whiny useless bitches.
>>711664517
Trump 2016
>>711664517
Guys if you want a job in the Trump pence goverment please go to
https://apply.ptt.gov
>>711676570
>looser
as opposed to tighter?
>>711665567
Want a job in the trump cabinet goto https://apply.ptt.gov right now
>>711665615
Trump wants patriots https://apply.ptt.gov
>>711665809
Signing as fast as I can if that's the case, fuck.
>>711676781
>>711676734
>>711676658
>>711665809
>>711673941
Yeah, I've visited the petition site. Saw someone from UK signing it and closed it.
People are fucking stupid.
>>711676562
That's from the 9th. They still been counting votes since then.
>>711665098
At the time of Senate, House and President being completed, donald was up by 900k voters. Post election ballots don't count asshat.
>>711676821
You look like you could work in the department of Agriculture goto https://apply.ptt.gov submit you CV right now. Trump wants the simple minded
>>711664517
hillary conceded there is no putting her in office get over it
>>711676915
my bad. Here's the real current one.
>>711676993
See>>711676915
You're still not up to date.
>>711676857
That's just proof that people have a memory of a goldfish. It's amusing, it truly is.
>>711664517
Game isnt broken till your team loses....
>>711677049
[Citation Needed]
>>711677140
Just wait and see. Media is lying to you right now and making people look real stupid. What u gonna do when these results show trump won both?
>>711677282
>Just wait and see.
Real convincing there bud, you got any stock tips for me?
>>711677282
Thank you
>>711677358
Buy low. Sell high
>>711677049
yes...yes I am
>>711677358
Media lied to you and said Hillary would win and she didn't. Now media is saying she won popular vote and she didn't. Keep believing what you see on tv
>>711665555
>With the electoral every state is represented.
Nope. Google "election results".
There are 20 votes still outstanding, and guess what? They just don't matter, thanks to the EC.
They haven't finished counting in Michigan and New Hampshire, but those states just don't matter.
Even if they both went Hillary, the following states still wouldn't matter: Alaska, Alabama, Arizona Arkansas, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, D.C., Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia, Wisconsin and Wyoming.
If you voted in any of these states, guess what? Your vote didn't matter at all. Any of these states could have flipped, and it wouldn't have changed the out come of the election, even with the help of Michigan AND new Hampshire.
Only California, Texas, New York or Florida could have changed the outcome by going the other way.
>>711677492
No...no you're not. Just wait until the media decides to tell the truth. I'm sorry. I don't care either way but you are being deceived by the media, probably all your life
>>711677582
>>711677582
My media said trump had a 28.6 percent chance at winning based on current polling and he won sounds pretty accurate to me.
>>711677807
They also said he would win 45% of the vote, +- 3%.
>>711665615
this
>>711676031
AKA vote welfare. Redistributing our vote wealth, and somehow it always benefits the vocal minority of conservatives in this country.
>>711678104
and they were right according to google
45%+3%=48%
popular vote split is currently 48% clinton 47% trump
Thanks for proving my point.
