So Hillary supporters, give me a legitimate reason you don't want Trump to be president. Something other than he hurt your feelings. You butt hurt retards
>>711476850
I don't concur with the conservative philosophy. It's just as simple as that. I don't think he's a bigot, but I disagree with Trump on a fundamental level. No ore venom than that.
>stop liking things I don't like
>>711477090
Explain then. What do you disagree with and why?
>>711477166
Do I really need to break down tenants of the GOP and DMC for you? The things I dislike about Trump cannot be backed up by anything but personal convictions. I just disagree with right-wing politics. Jesus you're sounding like a liberal pecking at me like a woman because I don't concur with you.
>>711477451
Not OP but im interested in knowing why as well. What is it about right-wing politics you disagree with?
I'm white and he hasn't offended me but he's still a terrible person. And at no point in this election did he give any details on how he will make America Great. Plus, he made shit up, changed his position and generally looked clueless.
Clinton was a bad choice too.
>>711476850
How about the fact that he was born on third base, and still managed to escape financial ruin at almost everything he's attempted in his career.
How the fuck do you *bankrupt* a fucking casino!!?? He's phenomenally stupid and lazy.
>>711477885
I should say at this point that I have equal disdain for Hillary.
It's hard to talk about why I'm left leaning (on a very fundamental level) without you interpreting it as me as being self righteous or condescending, so it's an uphill battle, especially here on 4chan.
I respect conservatism, and I know that they're fighting the good fight, but I disagree with the GOP in ways that would require me to write a book to describe it as well as delve deeply into philosophy... so it's kind of a huge workload if you're asking me to legitimatize myself..
Also, you can see he's already over his head and his kids are illegally part of his transition team while still running his business. It's a Joke no one is laughing or talking about.
>>711476850
He said he would abolish the EPA and allow unrestricted air/water pollution. Also banning muslims and reducing the corporate tax rat, both terrible unnecessary ideas
the idea of a border wall (some of the border is underwater etc.) is the most retarded thing in modern politics.
>>711476850
I like her hair better, and she promised to break up the big banks. Also her husband got blown while on the clock, I like that about her policy.
>>711477090
>I don't concur with the conservative philosophy.
Because if you were to say agree everyone would think you're a moron? That's such an awkward word choice, holy shit.
>>711477451
So being anti-republican you're all for a government that governs and dictates at a state level, while completely disregarding the constitution which you believe to be a living document subject to change at the government's will according to over embellished news reports by bias media sources which ironically are also dictated by the very government they are supposed to report on?
>>711478782
>>711478782
>>711478782
>>711478866
double dubs
>>711476850
Theres nothing good about him or any republican even though I agree with some of their end game policies.
ex) immigration- immigrants are a threat to the nation bc they bring over a culture that wars with ours and they get on welfare. not bc of trumps racist shit. not bc of the gops religious bullshit. not bc mexicans are dangerous.
but the repubs and Trump do not want to keep immigrants out. they cant. immigrants do cheap labor. the owners cant afford to lose them. the right will never kick them out or keep them out in a meaningful way. obama is the biggest deporter in history.
Trump is the most anti american person in america. evades taxes, brags about hosting gadaffi at an upcharge, his reaction to 9/11 was to brag about trump tower being the tallest building in new york, he bragged about stiffibg american workers (not the illegal ones he gets cheap labor from). moved his factories overseas
many of you dont know trump but ive followed him since the 90s. he is a con artist at heart.
his promises were ludicrous and not realistic. ie wall and bring back factories. he didnt have a real plan (no candidate did). he played the typical political game of lies and saying whatever gets voted.
and what makes him worse than most repubs is that hes putting the extremists into power. pence carson palin gingrich christie. hes setting back america 70 years on social issues and bringing back religion.
no i am not a liberal.
Trump is a decoy.
Pence is the real threat.
He's a christian asshole who thinks being a christian asshole is what gets you into heaven.
He'll do terrible, terrible things and drag America back into bible bashing.
>>711476850
Because of Trump's supporters. They're literally the worst of /b/
>>711478847
Nothing but assumptions. It would be easy if I was you're cookie cutter liberal. It would do America some good if we can stop stereotyping the other side and start having a conversation.
This is just you being an unbearable douche I'm sorry. You're describing populism liberalism, and I'm not your guy if you wanna start lobbing shit my way.
>>711479101
Trump's assassination insurance policy. :)
>>711476850
Havent you noticed at all of the anti-trump rallys their are gay pride flags everywhere
>>711476850
Protip: They can't.
>Pic related
>>711476850
http://www.mostdamagingwikileaks.com/
>>711476850
His economic policies have been tried in the past with bad results.
And he pandered way to hard to social conservatives. Hoping like hell it was just lies to get votes.
>>711479278
There are already like 20 different reasons in this thread. Fingers in ears time huh
Donald is lying everytime he open his mouth and he doesnt give a shit about science
>>711479228
Not lobbing anything toward your way just trying to understand why republicanism being a fair and balanced form of government of a country with a constitution limiting governmental powers, is not something you would agree with.
The very top point on his healthcare plan (Repeal and replace Obamacare with Health Savings Accounts (HSAs)) he has already backtracked on before even being sworn in.
>>711479361
Kek, "reasons". Nice b8 m8.
>>711476850
Because he can't be a president. He has no experience at all, he has no idea how politics works, and he is a hothead, the opposite of a diplomat.
Would I rather have Hillary? fuck no, I didn't vote for either.
Conservatism is a philosophy for retards. It will make you dement, as it did Reagan and Thatcher.
>>711479278
You're making the assumption that anti-Trump is pro Clinton. I can think both are terrible.
>>711476850
because:
>1. she's not a facist
>2. she won the popular vote
>3.i'm a democrat and I don't want to associate with my republican days
>4.we're fucked either way
lets hope the electorates just elect gary johnson
>>711476850
He wants to eliminate or severely defund the EPA
>>711477928
May I suggest looking at
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/policies/
>>711479999
nice get
One of his campaign promises was to renegotiate the national debt. Aka default. Aka bankruptcy. Essentially selling our country's triple-A credit rating that we've maintained since WW2 for a few positive news articles.
Other promises: pulling out of NATO, letting Russia march into Crimea. Remember when the Russians accidentally shot down that airliner? It's gonna be some good times in Eastern Europe.
Providing nukes to non-nuclear countries. How do you think China's going to react when South Korea and North Korea have nukes pointed at each other? Nothing like another cold war, right?
Banning Muslim immigration. This is just stupid. I wonder if he's going to sell Trump-brand magic dousing rods to figure out who's too Muslim to let in.
Basically every one of his ideas are stupid as shit, impossible to implement, and wouldn't even fix whatever made up problem he thinks there is in the first place.
Liberalism is like conservatism a philosophy for retards. Democracy isnt. Thus vote for democracy, not for liberalism or conservatism.
>>711479876
none of the left and right of that image are even close to related
>>711476850
He wants to get rid of Dodd Frank
>>711479876
Are you claiming he DOES have political experience? He isn't a short-tempered retard that takes to twitter whenever someone hurts his fweewings?
How about the fact that he couldn't even properly run a university, yet he seems to be trusted with the most powerful country in the world?
>>711478131
no, he hasn't
>>711477928
There's a book on details.
There's also many other sources you failed to find too.
>>711479970
three of those four are not even arguments.
>>711479876
one non-sequitur after another. What a useless image.
>>711479876
that last point is not true. We've had a foreign born first lady before.
>>711480028
but don't look at it for long. He's already abandoned a few of these.
>>711479247
I find it amazing that it's almost natural to discuss a Trump assassination.
There was actually a whole show devoted to presidential assassinations on the radio yesterday and every caller had the default setting that an assassination attempt on Trump was not only likely but that it was also, somehow, morally justified.
>>711478131
Look up the Federal Reserve and the debt economy and you'll probably understand why he did what he did.
>>711479486
You've already got your mind made up. My counter is just fuel to your fire. I'm just trying to understand why I can't say that I disagree on an atomic, almost spiritual level, and you can't just be okay with that. I know you're not a liberal, but you're kinda showing the annoying, naggy, ugly side of yourself. The kind of attitude that led to Hillary getting STOMPED HARD. She was smug and self-righteous, and it was her demise.
>>711476850
He's going to add at least 2 social conservative, corporatist Supreme Court justices
>>711480075
What exactly is wrong with NAFTA?
>>711480118
The lack of "political experience" is exactly why he is so favorable. What do we know about politicians with political experience? They lie, cheat, steal, and murder.
>>711480166
>give me a legitimate reason why YOU don't want trump to be president
>>711478524
>>711480329
Explain
>>711479168
At least they aren't going into the streets beating people nearly to death.
>>711476850
To be honest, the only thing I don't really agree with it his views on climate change. But then again I'm a britfag so what does my opinion on the topic matter
>>711477928
Exactly. Many of the people upset with Trump as president would not have been happy with Clinton either. But just because Clinton is a bad choice does not mean that Trump is a good one. Trump's incendiary rhetoric aside, he still did not demonstrate that he had the qualities to be a good, or even decent, president.
>>711479767
Personally I'm the other side of that. Being anti-clinton because she's a warmongering sack of shit isn't pro-trump
how are Trump supporters still butthurt even after they just won the presidency...
>>711476850
>he doesn't believe in climate change
>his economic strategy is not feasible
>he is already causing a divide in the American public
>he's in Russia's pocket
>he promises the strengthening of American infrastructure, when the wall he is proposing will consume ALL the taxpayer funds from now until the end of his presidency
>he thinks a wall can keep out immigrants
>he wants sarah palin on his cabinet
>he has existing, uncleared lawsuits prior to inauguration
>he has flip-flopped on almost all of his stances
>no foreign leader takes him seriously
>ISIS wanted his candidacy
>his isolationist policies are not appropriate for this age of international politics
>he has no foreign diplomatic skills as evidenced by his meeting with the mexican president
>he is unable to produce evidence of his personal success/tax records
>he is more concerned with the state of his business than with the affairs of the american people
>GOP party leaders are hesitant to work with him/take him seriously
>>711480346
Wrong, you haven't even tried to convince me why any other form of government is better than a republic. And you wonder why my mind has already been made up. You lack the psychological fortitude to even debate me on a level consistent with supposed liberal intellectualism.
>>711477928
He talked about how he's planning to make America great again in every one of his speeches, rallies and debates, look it up
>>711480695
liberals rioting
trump supporters drinking coffee
What star do you orbit?
>>711478131
Set up a casino and try not to get it bankrupt, then we'll talk again
I have it on good authority that Trump has kicked several ponies.
>>711478421
yes, it is a huge workload to explain your positions.
>>711480474
legitimate definition: fair or reasonable. In other words it needs to make sense. They did not.
>>711480733
>you think climate change is real
LOL fucking cuck
>>711476850
Erm, alright then. Here we go:
He has no interest in being a president. He plans on letting long termestablishment GOP's and corporate interests dictate US policy for the next 4 years, all of which will only benefit the top 1% earners. In fact, his and Paul Ryan's proposed tax reforms will only benefit the top 1% earners. It is the old regain idea of trickle down economics and it didn't work then and it won't work now.
I do not think the man is a racist; that is literally just a media buzzword the left tried to stick onto him as if it mattered. Trump is an elitist. If you do not earn above a million dollars/year you do not matter to him. He has made it abundantly clear over the last few decades that he is only interested in furthering his own wealth and promoting his own brand. I do not buy into him as an every man blue collar worker's champion, just because his rhetoric ticks all the correct boxes.
He never had many clear policies and the ones he advocated the strongest he has already started to back away from and he is not even elected yet. In 3 months time he will have scrapped literally every one of his strong powerful tub-thumping slogans and begun dismantle trade regultions and slashing heatlhcare spending to reinforce his "less tax for millionaires" reforms.
I suppose above all I think he will have a very negative effect on international politics. I work a lot in South Korea and they are worried now because Trump promised to dismantle the army bases we have over there, leavign them vulnerable to a north korean expansion. And considering how much Trump loves china I sincerely doubt that Trump would want to intervene should it come to an armed conflict over there. Furthermore Trumps image abroad is that of a brash reality tv star and an orange buffoon and so America will lose international prestige. Which of course noone in America cares about (we are number 1 so the rest of the world can suck it) but it has long term intenrational ramifications
>>711476850
he plans to repeal eviermental protection restrictions on natural gas. and also want a law that states "for every new regulation, two wil lbe repealed". thats just stupid.
I actually agree with many of his ideas, such as maximum terms for senators.
other than that... hes kinda a fool. but hillary is just as bad. this election was embarassing. i abstained from voting presidential, only participated in state and local voting.
sic sempre tyranis
>>711478421
Thank you good sir. This is the first person ive seem not to fall into this trap that leads to a shit flinging contest.
It is very hard to convince someone to lean a certain way. Downright impossible. People will switch allegiances by personal conviction from seeing things a different way. But definitely not from arguing with some faggot on 4chan.
>>711480389
One out of three of my questions answered, better than I expected.
>The lack of "political experience" is exactly why he is so favorable.
The mechanics lack of experience is exactly why I let him work on my teeth.
>What do we know about politicians with political experience?
That they have it?
>They lie, cheat, steal, and murder.
>My favorite buzzwords from my favorite oompa loompa.
Also, "lie, cheat and steal" That's 3 out of 4 trump already has, maybe he CAN be president after all...
>>711480779
>>711480346
>>711481023
whoops sic semper tyrannis**
>>711480928
>drinking coffee
Look at this thread. Triggering a Trumptard is the easiest shit.
>>711476850
My only genuine reason is he strongly denies climate change, and has recently even hired the biggest climate change denier as a political partner.
That is actually a really fucking alarming thing, and he could determine the progress of world politics for the next decade. Fuck Trump and I hope to god someone talks some shit into him.
I don't want Hillary, but I believe that Trump is a sincere guy at the end of the day. I think he wants to do a good job as POTUS, so I hope he changes his mind.
>>711480314
Read the Art of the Deal.
You'll understand too.
Negotiation is a process.
>>711476850
he got less votes
>>711480983
>1/16 of his points answered
>Cuck
Pot, meet kettle.
>>711478847
Why the juvenile response?
He disagrees with you, get over it and stop projecting.
>>711480552
The guy deserved it though.
>>711481227
He's flipflopped on so many things that it's really not worth looking over any list of policies he comes up with.
>>711476850
They're anti white cucks that think that white people deserve to be punished for shit that happened years ago.
>>711476850
I feel environmental regulations are a necessity. I don't agree with massive corporate tax cuts. Potentially getting rid of the EPA is dumb. Net neutrality.
>>711481260
Fuck off you cuck. I could do them all I just don't care.
>>711480548
Trump has an IQ of 156 and speaks to the general public at a 4th grade level because he believes the common man, yourself, is no smarter than a 4th grader. Everything Trump does is calculated, including the bankrupting his businesses. He works the system to his advantage and wins every time. Even when it looks lie he's losing, there's an advantageous reason it appears so.
Look into the guy and suspend your feelings about him. He's a clever asshole.
>>711480028
>Removes his ban on muslimes policy
>h-haha guys, it was j-just temporary!!
>>711481407
You clearly did, cucko, since you replying in the first place.
>>711481055
Dental work and being a representative for the collective voice of your constituents only to politically maneuver in ways that will only benefit yourself are two different things. The fact that he's a billionaire and really has nothing to gain by being a politician much less president other than making conditions a little more favorable for working middle class families is why people voted for and is the exact reason why he will do better than even the most optimistic of his supporters believe he will.
>>711480983
skepticism in science is a theme within your party, i'm not surprised by this reaction and i know there are people in the trump camp who do believe in climate change.
since i take it you're a christfag, what happened to "love thy neighbor"? i don't like making generalizations about groups of people, so if you're not a christfag, then what system of morals do you cling to?
I am applying for jobs in the environmental consulting field and I fear that Trump will allow them to repeal the EPA and associated laws with it CIRCLA, RCRA, etc. TL:DR he has sided with a party that has in many sates gutted environmental regulations which is sad because Nixon signed the EPA into law and it wasn't a bipartison issue. Environment affects us all, and I think everyone can agree on saving healthcare money by not having so many preventable diseases.
>>711481115
Brainwashing a libtard is even easier
Keep worshiping miley cyrus and jay-z
>>711476850
Trump is a fraud. The fools fell for it.
>>711481171
I also share this sentiment.
No tax returns, even faked his medical record, is on trial for raping kids, corrupt as hell, ruins every business he has ever touched, wants to make his Family inherit high political Jobs to Establish a Family clan.
>>711481407
>could do all of them, just don't care
sounds like you can't do all of them. seems like making big claims and then not backing them is a big theme in your party, anon
>>711476850
Because of Mike Pence, the craziest, most dangerous fucking fundamentalist retard to ever be this fucking close to nuclear weapons. That, on top of the fact that;
1) Trump is very likely to be impeached -- even the professor who predicted Trumps upset victory and never backed down despite the polls has predicted this and
2) Trump is 70 years old and lives off a diet of Big Macs and fried chicken.
Either way, you'll soon be seeing president Mike Pence... May the flying spaghetti monster help us all.
>>711481553
After this, I'm not going to reply. You are the cuck not me.
>>711477090
Must be fun watching tyrone plow your wife cuck
>>711481576
>making conditions a little more favorable for working middle class families
I was under the impression that he was supported because "muslims..wall...guns". At least that's what I keep hearing from his idiotic supporters.
It's not Trump. It's his supporters. I don't believe Trump can do quite a bit of what he wants to do. The problem is he was elected by Southerns and Christians. They believe he is the choice God sent to us. The rich , Christian man who will keep the needy and poor out of America and will grab women by the pussy. He is happy to trash the planet so "you" can pollute, make money easier. He and his VP will gladly ignore the violence towards minorities and LGBT so can freely attack them on behalf of God. You know, all things Christ would spit at.
This is what he wants. This want Trump supporters want. Conservatives feel powerful after they ousted Obama. The KKK supports this man. So now they feel comfortable saying "keep out the fucking Muslims" or attacking homos. Why? Because their leader won't tell them not to. Even his SUPPORTERS feel like he is a racist, so they follow suit - because he is the President God gave us. Despite that he is stopping Christian refugees (or any) from the Middle East from entering America and finding religious freedom, to name only a fee issues.
I'm against illegal immigration, I didn't vote Hillary and I do think his financial plans make sense and could improve the economy. But it comes with a price tag of the past 30 years of social progression, the environment and giving TRULY racist and homophobic people the feeling of empowerment. It's fucking scary.
>>711481781
>Keeps replying
>No, YOU are the cuck
kek, get a load of Mr. Projecting.
>>711481454
>IQ of 156
IQ tests are hard to standardize and the proof of this result remains to be seen.
but okay, let's assume this is true. how do you know trump will stand by his promises? you admit he's clever; how do you know that his entire campaign wasn't just a manipulation to get into power and then force his own selfish agenda? it has been seen that he is a man without integrity.
>>711480983
dude it is real. even the heritage foundation has acknowledged it is occurring currently. The American Association of Petroleum Geologists recognize it, this shouldn't be partisan. The solutions and policies to address it can be, but denying natural science is immature.
>>711481454
>trump is a genius
>hes just conning the retards
and thats supposed to make me feel better how? that hes a pathological conman is supposed to make me feel what exactly?
hes not clever. anyone can spout trump rhetoric. hes a typical politician saying whatever shit would get him elected. and youre saying thats a good thing?
if you think he hasmd anything to do with his bankruptcies youre retarded. he hires people to do that stuff. all the top owners do. same for his divorces he also weaseled out of.
i really dont give a fuck what he scored on an iq test. i want a leader with integrity not another liar and conman.
>>711481621
No it's not.
The Blue states are smarter than the Red states. Fucking fact at that.
And it's easier to brainwash dumb people. Just look at the guy who managed to become president with "make America Great Again".
Liberals are easier to trigger though.
>>711476850
He's dumb
There you go, dumb OP
>>711481454
I'd like to see that iq stat. I don't think he's stupid at all, but 156 is very high, he should be doing quantum mechanics.
Are you also saying he planned to have his casinos go bankrupt? Do you know how retarded that sounds? Why would anyone open a business that purposely fails? You know you get buttfucked on loans for your next one after you do thhat right?
I should open a a store selling fake dog shit for 2000 dollars so it goes bankrupt. Then ill never haveto pay taxes!
>>711481961
Those violent, racist supporters in Michigan all elected him president. Your libby dibby Micheal Moore even said that.
>>711480845
What do you plan to do about..
"Law and order"
How will you solve..
"Law and order"
>>711481961
>hurrrdurr if you're not a leftist you're an inbred redneck
>>711476850
He's unfit in almost every way. He's unhinged, and unpredictable, which shouldn't be a presidential trait. Another reason would be the Supreme Court, he gets to appoint judges that could overturn Roe vs Wade and no more gay marriage either. Next would be him severing the Paris agreement, which will cancel any progress we're making towards combating climate change, which he believes is a hoax. Obamacare and healthcare was another issue but I guess he flip flopped on that one too and threw his supporters under the bus, but whatever. Next would be him wanting to keep relations with people like Putin and Xi, which no longer puts us at the forefront for human rights, and also lets Putin do whatever he wants in Eastern Europe unquestioned. He claims to be anti establishment yet is picking all neocon establishment goons for his cabinet. His tax policy would be, as Hillary already called it, trickle down economics on steroids, I don't think I should explain why it's a bad thing because hopefully after falling for that meme countless times by Republicans you hopefully realize how completely autistic it is. There's multiple other reasons as well but that's all I can come up with right now at the top of my head
>>711477451
>tenants
Tenets.
>>711481748
Mike Pence is literally a psychotic sadist. He believes God wants 90+% of the world to suffer and that only through their suffering may they be saved. He ruined my home state of Indiana and in so many ways admitted to it and implied that we deserved it.
Even if Trump doesn't die or get impeached, he's going to have some power as VP and he's going to fuck the country up so badly and he'll be proud of it. I think Trump is going to stick mostly to just being the attention whore that he is and focusing on a few of his major campaign issues, while Pence will be the man pulling the levers.
Terrifying.
>>711478421
Why is it so hard for you to give a straight answer?
>>711479715
Neither did Obama. He had all of 3 months of actual political experience, the entirety of his political career were consumed with constant campaigning to get elected into higher positions.
He did better than I expected but the country is more divided than ever before because of his policies and his actions.
>>711476850
He didn't win the election.
>>711476850
>Climate Change
He denies it entirely and will set us back decades in terms of combatting it. Now we have to trust China to lead the way on emissions reductions which I'm not so sure will work out.
>Health Care
Will repeal ACA. We need a single payer system but ACA was at least a step in the right direction.
>SCOTUS
Plans to nominate ultra conservative justices, which will lead to regressive abortion laws, big money remaining in politics, etc.
>Economic policy
Large Tariffs. Are you fucking kidding me? Every established economist thinks this is a bad idea. Also he will add to the national debt more than clinton would have, look it up.
Even if you think that his immigration is solid (which I don't), and like his pro-russia stance, and think we should institute muslim ban, there are many many weak points to Trump. There's a reason he lost the vote among educated people by the margin he did.
>>711482354
but he did
>>711482102
Book smarts =/= practical smarts.
The blue states are full of retarded minority inner city goers. guarenteed dropouts if they even went to school.
He is picking fight with every countries of the world. that 30$ shirt You are wearing so stylishly, because someone in the china made that working 20 cent per hour 12 - 14 a day. And if they cut ties with you good luck finding cheap anything.
My point is you are getting things cheap because other countries are making them for you. And when you get 15$ per hour for work the price of everything will rise.
>>711481748
He only appears to eat bad to appeal to the common man. He actually eats food prepared by chefs who use the latest in science (food chemistry) to make his food while he's in private. Everything he does in the public is calculated to appeal to the common man. He's anything but common.
>>711482300
Mike Pence is just a typical evangelical. That automatically makes him retarded. It's a kin to being born with extra chromosomes.
>>711482354
He won the election using the same procedure as the last 44 presidents.
Your point exactly?
Holy shit why didn't you libtards tell me this before I voted? This man's a lunatic
>>711482172
I'm pretty sure supporting a VP who thinks shock therapy cures gays, or believing a president was chosen by God does make you an inbred redneck.
>>711476850
His cabinet choices are deplorable. Carson? Palin? Good God, Carson seemed brain dead and Palin might actually be retarded. I also dislike how fanatical some of his more extremist supporters have been, but I'm a moderate and find a lot of extremism on both sides off-putting.
>>711476850
to sum up this thread.
hillary supporters want hillary for the same exact reason trump supporters want trump
>>711481919
Open borders and soft immigration laws open us up to the type of folks that like to run people over with a truck or shoot up a gay nightclub based strictly off of their religion, the wall and more stringent immigration policies would trickle down and benefit people who already struggle to bring food on the table because Juan does the same job he does only for 3$ dollars more an hour less, but at least this way, anyone who is not a legalized immigrant won't take the job from the backbone of this country that and anyone making 40,000$ or less a year won't pay taxes which strengthens that backbone far more than you realize and destroying our 2nd amendment is just as asinine as limiting the 1st which under Hillary was to become a reality
>>711482328
What does Obama have to do with this? He was well spoken, concise, and articulate. Was he a good president? no. Was he a good diplomat? Absolutely.
You have to remember, the president does not really have all that much power. He is just the face.
>>711482305
His answer is the last sentence in his reply.
>>711482545
>a kin
kek, that's akin moron.
>>711482328
>He had all of 3 months of actual political
Weird opinion you have there
>>711479228
>It would be easy if I was you're cookie cutter liberal. It would do America some good if we can stop stereotyping the other side and start having a conversation.
But when they asked you for your reasons you lashed out at them.
You would like to chime in on this conversation but give no substance then throw it in his face for trying to assume what your reasons are.
>>711476850
He has no knowledge about anything pertaining to actually being President.
Do I need more of a reason that that?
>>711482469
The Red states don't have practical smarts either. As a lot of them are the "poor" states. And they keep voting for people who want to make the rich richer and the poor poorer. They vote against their own best interests, that's not practical.
I'm not saying Hillary wouldn't do the same thing, but the blue states tend to be the richer states. So they're not exactly voting against their best interests.
>>711482640
and i'm pretty sure that nobody gives a shit about the vp.
and i'm also pretty sure that we don't live in an ideal world and that trump was the better choice.
take your nirvana fallacies back to debate club, son.
>>711482657
>You have to remember, the president does not really have all that much power.
House and Senate are lined up majority republican, so bye-bye checks and balances.
>>711482469
i agree that booksmarts =/= practical smarts. this is the truth.
however, blue states are statistically more likely to produce scientists, engineers, and the people who will build this country into what it could be. i have the utmost respect for the American working class; their efforts are invaluable. however, they are unable to make decisions that benefits America in the long-term; the youth of america are going into tech fields, something that the blue states have readily accepted and are preparing for.
>>711482524
That still doesn't solve the issue that he's very likely going to be impeached within his first year in office. The GOP loves Pence, they hate Trump. It was no doubt a strategy on Trump's part to select Pence as his VP in the first place, and even after he's impeached, this would had only been profitable for Donnie one way or another.
Hell, I'd go as far as to begin wondering if this was all just a conspiracy to get Pence the presidency in the first place and when he does you can bet that Donnie's gonna get some major kickbacks.
>>711476850
Trump:
>We'll build a wall and kick the mexicans out
>Actually it'll be a fence...
>No more Muslims
>That's not really reasonably anymore, nevermind to that
>Repeal Obamacare!
>We're gonna keep most of it actually
And this is before he's even officially in office. Y'all got played.
>>711482655
Didn't really have anything to do with my statement.
>>711479168
Honestly, this. I'm not one of those people who think Trump is going to send us to the dark ages, and I even looked into some of his policies and could see where he was coming from. But seeing the people that support him is what drove me away. Everyone who disagrees with you is an idiot, anyone who provides a legitimate argument is a shill, most of you are hypocritical (taking quotes others said 8+ years ago and using them in your argument while simultaneously saying things Trump said 3 or 4 years ago don't matter), and now that you've won the election you just can't restrain yourselves from rubbing it in everyone's faces. Trump himself may not be a racist, sexist, xenophobic "took er jobs" type, bur most of his supporters were.
>inb4 butthurt liberal
>tl;dr I didn't vote for Trump because I saw the types of people that did
>>711482905
He gives a shit and so does this Anon you ignorant fuck
>>711482655
Also the backbone won't be broken by those who would seek to break it financially, or socially
>>711482427
>>711482603
Hillary has won the popular vote.
There are 3 states now being called into question, which are all big states for Trump. Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. There were a lot of uncounted absentee ballots which turned up in large numbers in all 3 of these states, most of which are for Hillary Clinton, making her the projected winner in all 3 states. Should this turn out to be the finding, Hillary have met the needed 270 electoral votes, thus making her the president elect.
>>711477090
So you'd rather have the most crooked politician in American history be the leader of the free world?
>>711482905
You should. Because like Bush and Cheney. Pence will be doing ALL the work, he will be the true power.
>>711482858
excessive $$ =/= smarts
All those farmers who work for an honest living really need to get their shit together.
If Trump wants to increase the wealth of the rich in any way, he will do it in a way that also increase the wealth of the middle class. Proportionally more, in fact.
>>711482971
I just explained to you why the wall guns and Muslims reasonated so well with trump supporters (middle working class families) you just suck at reading.
>>711483050
>votes not counted
>b-b-b-ut hillary won
>i-i-i just know it
>>711477090
So you think we need a bigger government and we need to spend more money that we don't have on government assistance? We're in under a 20 trillion dollar deficit currently, that just seems stupid.
>>711483050
omg i want this to happen so bad, just so i can watch all of the butthurt ensue.
>>711483050
Problem, she conceded. Trump wins. Suck it up Sally.
>>711483077
what fuckin work?
every four years cunts like you get all frothy about your candidate and every four years later they country's in a shittier condition than it was before.
Agreed
>>711476850
Ultimately, it doesn't matter. He won and will be our president.
I didn't like his original tax plan because it called for about a 10 trillion deficit with no announced cuts. Either he was hiding what he was going to cut (I'd prefer transparency) or he was going to plunge the nation into debt for short term gains hoping that increased economic output would stave off some of the burden (it wouldn't).
His new tax plan was marginally better, but then it raises a whole new question about what he's actually going to do in office. He would tell five different things to five different people at any given time. No one has a firm grasp on what he's actually going to do now.
>>711483262
Now here is an equal opportunistic Sadist. Welcome Aboard Sir!
>>711483184
>If Trump wants to increase the wealth of the rich in any way, he will do it in a way that also increase the wealth of the middle class. Proportionally more, in fact.
Are you just pretending to be retarded?
>>711481504
>You can tell these points are valid because no one is responding to them.
>>711482655
>Open borders and soft immigration laws open us up to the type of folks that like to run people over with a truck or shoot up a gay nightclub based strictly off of their religion
You aren't dumb enough to think the opposite of this will magically keep bad people away, are you?
>>711483262
>butthurt
you mean like riots and shit?
>>711482923
ok? How does that make the president powerful? The choice is still with congress, not the president.
>>711483050
>There were a lot of uncounted absentee ballots
They won't call a state unless the outstanding votes aren't enough to change the current outcome. PA and WI were already called, MI is the only one outstanding and it won't make a difference to the outcome either way.
>lrn2election
>>711481256
This.
>>711482107
He has a higher IQ than you. He has a higher IQ than most people including your current chimpanzee president that you think is smart but is only smart for a monkey.
>>711476850
Populist just wants your vote and then you are forgotten. Must be your first vote if you think it actually matters. There is no winning camp in which you so much want to include yourself in.
>>711483184
So what is it going to be next? So far you've said having an education doesn't mean you've got practical smarts. And I've shown how the blue states seem to have more practicals smarts. And now you're saying having more money doesn't make you smart. You're just going around in circles dude. Face it. The blue states are smarter, richer, and seem to have more practical smarts as well, as they vote in their interests.
>If Trump wants to increase the wealth of the rich in any way, he will do it in a way that also increase the wealth of the middle class.
No. He fucking won't, and you're so fucking delusional if you believe that.
If anything the rich will be getting tax cuts. The middle class and poor will have to take up the slack.
>>711483461
No, but it will make it harder for those that do get through, and when they do they'll be met with Americans whose 2nd amendment hasn't been stolen.
>>711483476
You don't understand how we make new laws do you?
>>711482655
Republicans never deport illegals. Reagan gave them all amnesty. Obama is the biggest deporter of all time.
Repubs and Trump WANT the immigrants bc they come over and owners use them for cheap labor.
Trump is also not building a wall. He might get a fence which is also retarded. Most immigrants come over legally, they walk right through the boarder, and stay too long. A wall or fence doesnt stop that.
The workers ALWAYS get hit the hardest during tax cuts. Trickle down always fucks the workers and benefits the top owners.
You want less people on welfare? Trump and pence want more. bc they dont pay for it. taking away abortions and birth control increases poor births. Welfare from taxes INCREASES with more poor.
NO ONE ever in the history of politics has wanted to destroy the 2nd amendment retard. Stop falling for obvious propaganda. and stop spreading it.
>>711483443
Exactly, people are just itching to jump on an argument they know they can win, yet they skipped those.
>>711476850
Every economist saying he will destroy the economy
>>711481344
Wasted dubs
MAEK MURRICA GRAET AGAIN :-DDDDDDDDDDDD
FUG KLENTEN XDXDXDXD
I'm not a Hillary supporter, but I didn't want Trump because his environmental policies are absolute trash. The environment will go to shit if his policies go through. I do lean to the left, but neither Clinton nor Trump were good candidates. Imo, it should've been Bernie, but it's too late for that. I'm keeping an open mind and I hope that Trump proves me wrong about him.
>>711482928
All of those techies are smart in their feilds. But they shrug off any realistic understanding of quality of life. They use the appartments and grocery stores for their convenience. They use people around them like dirty towels. They rarely entertain a sense of what life is about and therefore blind-eye leftist morals, which fucking kill in the long run.
>>711483704
>>711483359
How is the country in a shittier position with Obama?
He undid a lot of the damage Bush did. Brought the country back from the brink of oblivion because of all the shit Bush allowed on his watch.
It's a vicious circle, the Reps fuck everything up, the Dems get elected and fix it, and get called "lame ducks" because they've spent all their time fixing the Reps mistakes.
>>711483540
And what do you call Clinton? The woman who told wall street to have a public AND private platform
>>711483649
Yeah, and guess what? Congress makes them!! The president just signs them for good will. Of course, the supreme court will can just chose to say "Nah, fuck that" and the big bad powerful president can fuck right off.
>>711483676
Retard. I'm guessing you were also the type of person who called people a racist for voting for trump. Well, thank you for electing trump. We couldn't have done it with you.
>>711483646
Yeah all two scenarios. Nice.
>Gun owners confirmed to shot at random people driving through crowds
Yeah that sounds super safe too.
>>711477928
I'd take a guy with a big mouth over someone who bullied rape victims into silence, laughed about getting a guy who raped a 12 year old off, used a private server to bypass the freedom of information act(and by doing so put national security at risk)
[This next one gets it's own paragraph because it was SO blatantly obvious that it was a 'King David' situation]
pulled back security on our ambassador when intelligence KNEW a coordinated attack was coming his way, ignored hundreds of requests for support. After the guy gets killed(at this point it was really fucking obvious that she wanted him dead), she blamed it on a fucking video that some guy made, and said that the ambassador died in a 'protest.'
The guy who made the video was in prison for FUCKING YEARS!!!
What was Trump's crime, saying he wanted to beef up border security?
>>711483050
You are the reason why morons are still protesting, they actually think she still has a chance. The truth is, it's over, there's no chance at all and everyone knows this except for the few retards protesting in the streets. You need to listen to your new president and stop protesting and start trying to help each other and support your country instead of being giant idiots making us all look bad.
>>711483704
That's funny, the stock market says otherwise.
>>711483050
She conceded right away, fucktard. It's over.
>>711477451
Typical Hillary supporter can't give a direct answer to any question. Just beat around the bush and hope nobody notices your bullshitting. Same reason Killery stood no chance. She refused to try thinking Trump couldn't win.
>>711483879
>admits to not knowing how a thing works and then goes to try and explain it
Trump voters.
I voted for Trump, but the personal and political ramifications from both sides being so polarized makes me wish I hadn't performed my civic duty so that I wouldn't have to pick a side and try and justify why I did what I did. Because of this bullshit, I've lost all of my friends. Albeit that mostly happened a long time ago but this nonsense was the final nail in the coffin. Honestly, I really only voted for Trump because I wasn't about to vote for Hillary. Douchebag or Turd Sandwich sums things up pretty well.
>>711483929
Coming from the side that was so worried about public safety if trump got elected only to go riot in the streets and endanger public safety
>>711480166
4 out of the 4
>>711483950
tfw the stock market has tanked since it was announced trump won.
>>711483401
Growing the economy is good for everyone. Trump will effectively increase the tax on the rich by closing loopholes. He will not burden them with taxes that cripple them, which is what taxes now would do if the rich actually payed them. When everyone grows, everyone wins. Redistribution means a net total loss.
>>711484033
You made America great again. Thank you for doing your part.
>>711483871
I talked about populism, making people vote with with emotions, fears, not with common sense. It has happened in many countries lately, UK is good example.
>>711481407
>>711481553
it's like watching toddlers try to fight
>>711484021
Ok, why don't you explain it to me? Go on, shouldn't be that hard for you.
climate change is a chinese hoax
>>711484131
Stock Market has actually been amazing. Look it up cuck. Dow is fine
>>711482029
We don't know what's on his mind or what he intends do, if he can, and assuming so is intellectually dishonest.
The man has everything one could want realistically and that position is clearly a stressful one as we can see with every person who filled those shoes. The question is, why would he want to be POTUS when it really doesn't offer much in the way of freedom? It certainly comes with the weight of the world on your shoulders, at least at face value. It's not a position of power as some imagine it, it's more of shackled nightmare and you become the face everyone wants to punch if things go south, as it were. Or just the face people want to punch because X.
So why would he, or anyone, take that position? That's the question.
I wouldn't want it.
>>711483918
crawl back to your safe space then faggot. you didnt even bother responding bc you just got shitted on fucktard. if you vote out of spite, youre retarded and the world is better off without you.
The truth is, our votes for Trump single handed slapped every feminist in the USA. The proof you ask, pic related. So proud to have voted for TRUMP!
>>711479168
^see post below:
>>711483931
Also, everyone's been going on about how bad Trump supporters are; how violent they are; how horrible it is that they wouldn't respect the electoral process and accept the possibility of a Clinton presidency.
Funny thing is, Trump wins and they're out beating up white people in the streets and burning cars(for the record, I'm a minority and I voted for Trump)
>>711484207
That happened on both sides, but the fears of Clinton are real and we prevented her from taking us into a war with Russia.
>>711483676
>You want less people on welfare? Trump and pence want more. bc they dont pay for it. t
Mike Pence is the most anti-welfare that a person can be. He cut off food benefits completely as governor of Indiana, even for foster children.
He wants to eliminate social security AND medicare, and has hinted that he would like to eliminate supplemental security income as well, which would put millions upon millions of people with developmental disabilities and schizophrenia out on the street (Pence doesn't believe in either DD or mental illness)
>>711483931
>I'm going to compare some consistently bankrupt asshole to someone with political history like it's a fair comparison! I'm super smert!
It's a Trump is magically clean from corruption amd bad stuff be sure he isnt a politician post!
Also he and his dad + racial purging of rralistate in the 80s which was super illegal and they totally got in trouble for. No one important is clean, ignorant anon.
>>711484344
>many many people voted out of spite
>your response is spiteful
>>711476850
I think that it is a very bad idea to give him control of the big red button. If you need to ask why we don't use nukes, then you shouldn't be in control of them.
That, and he is going to royally fuck up the environment
>>711483559
The blue states are these 100% superior individuals eh? If they are in control of their policies, why is the wealth gap BIGGEST in them? White yuppies have peasants make them shit and clean their shit. When there is a solid wealth growth, everyone gets wealthier. But you wouldn't like that, because then you wouldn't be as yuppy or entitled.
>>711484344
Fucktard. Lol your colorful use of words amuses me, I will continue to vote out of spite because no one on the left is capable of having an intellectual debate about politics without resorting name calling. Adults don't debate with children. Go back to bed youngfag
>>711484483
The best part, to crazy motherfuckers got the codes now.. Love every min of it!
>>711484306
Because Trump isn't looking at his Presidential seat as anything more than walking into one of his many offices on a new day. People voted for him because they wanted that "I don't give a fuck" and now he's trying to deliver the best he can.
>>711483835
i'm sorry that this is your image of us.
>realistic understanding of quality of life
i went into my field so that i could secure a future for my family. nothing fancy, just something stable that kept them taken care of and happy.
>apartments and grocery stores
i'm a homeowner, so i can't relate. i do use groceries though, and i don't know why this is an issue. i should note that i know how to hunt and fish, and when i was growing up i tended a livestock farm.
>they use people like dirty towels
i don't understand this completely, but i will say that everyone in their life has relied on somebody else for something before. how they treated them is different, but america is a community.
>sense of life
i feel that there is no one 'sense of life'. life is multi-faceted, everything we experience as human beings contributes to the 'sense of life'.
>leftist
trust me, i hate those whiny faggots as much as any trump supporter. the difference is, i know they will fail on their own, so i vote my interests at heart rather to spite them.
>>711476850
Trump won fairly and we have to respect that.
Why didn't anybody speak up when Bernie Sanders was forced out in lieu of Killery. The whole DNC administration needs to be replaced in order to root out the corruption.
>>711484412
Guess thats true, champaigns were dirty as fuck. But really, lol, war with Russia talk is childish. Grow up.
>>711484412
>Clinton would take us to war
Can I have what you're smoking?
Soros didn't pick her as candidate and rig it in her favor.
>>711476850
Oh, idk... maybe because he lost by 600k votes with 4 million left to count, mostly from LA, San Fancisco, and Seattle. You tell me if you think that the difference is going to grow.
How is he going to bring back manufacturing jobs back ?
why would he abolish the epa?
I don't mind a constituionalist to the supreme court but the list he put forth is filled with straight up right wingers.
>>711483851
you're using a lot of soundbites that don't personally effect me.
things like obamacare which requires people to buy the same overpriced, underwhelming coverage we had before or be forced to pay a fine at tax time to the tune of hundreds maybe even thousands of dollars at tax time are imo a step in the wrong direction.
home ownership has dropped.
food stamp participation has increased.
illegal immigration has increased.
and it's all tied to a debt that has doubled in the last eight years.
just buying off problems doesn't fix them. it's like a patch job on the roof before the rainy season.
>>711484437
He also once said that single mothers should be jailed and their children should be raised by the church.
The guy is literally fucking crazy.
>>711484186
Thanks. I've already had to eat crow to get my best friend back. He was one of those "shame on you" types. I honestly thought we shared many of the same opinions regarding the election, but I guess moving to the big city really can change people. I really just want all of this to blow over. It's getting old reading about the crybullies taking to the streets night after night. Although I know they'll start up again after their petition fails on the 19th and when Trump gets inaugurated on Jan 20th.
>>711482141
You're thinking too binary. Expand your scenario. Don't assume you (in his place) would only open a casino to do legit legal business, for example. Get creative. Think about it.
If Hillary would have won what would the Trump riots be like instead? I feel like it would be the same but with a lot more guns present.
>>711484582
>champaigns
>grow up
>>711484131
sure kid, reality says otherwise...pic related, it's the past month. you see that big jump up? that's when Trump won the election.
>>711484657
...
and it's all tied to a debt that has doubled in the last eight years.
thats a big ass assumption since the deficit has been reduced significantly
>>711484706
do you really believe that?
if so, that's sad.
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>>711484698
That's because most dem. are cucks and don't know how to use guns.
>>711484572
>'m sorry that this is your image of us
If that's not the image of you that you want me to have, then stop voting like it is.
>>711484737
thats a blip you dimwit. stop speaking of things you know nothing about
>>711484734
no wonder wig works for you instead of real hair, if this is your shield from reality
>>711484706
Teabaggers picked up the trash they left after a protest they had, I highly doubt anyone would've rioted because adults don't throw tantrums after losing. Didn't with Obama wouldn't have done it now.
>>711484558
>no one on the left is capable of having an intellectual debate about politics
>without resorting name calling
>Fucktard
>Adults
>children
>youngfag
What you did there.
>>711484671
Yep. What you're seeing now is our USofA until at least late January or early February of 2017. This is what our nation has become now that we tell everyone they're special little snowflakes.
#TITSOUT4HILL
>>711484737
kek
If you notice the minor bump to the left, that directly coincided with Comey's reopening the FBI investigation.
>>711484825
>singular person
>stop voting like it is all of you people who vote that way
>>711484764
Believe that Trump voters would riot, or bring guns? Because I believe both of these.
>>711484306
based on what we've seen of trump, the way he conducts himself and the priorities he's placed, he likely views the presidency as the ultimate opportunity to push legislation in favor of his kind, which is unfortunately not the working class, but big business.
i would be more open to his candidacy if i knew what he planned on doing for the working class, but so far all i've heard is rhetoric and unsubstantiated promises.
i guess the tl;dr is, i genuinely have not heard feasible policies out of him.
MFW i make 60k a year and can't afford to eat and see some fucking nigger at the store paying for all the food they have with welfare spending my money on chips and pop.
>>711479101
>>711481748
>>711482300
>>711482939
>>711483077
>>711484437
>>711484664
>Pence
Glad to see some people actually see what's really going on. The only reason a guy like Pence could ever get in the white house is with someone as distracting as Trump taking the spotlight completely away from him.
Yes. Mike Pence, Mike Fucking Pence, is going to be in the white house...
We just got hoodwinked.
>>711484657
>Home ownership has dropped
Please don't blame this on a presidency, and not a larger economic problem.
>even thousands
Lol no
I know obreezycare hasn't been the magic wand some people made it out to be, but without a doubt it's been more beneficial than not. It take some serious willful ignorance to not acknowledge that.
I hate both candidates but I hate shillary less.
>>711484584
>>711484582
You think she wouldn't? She was about to set up a no fly zone which would be the perfect conflict with Russia to set up a war. And her anti Russia talk reeked of Red Scare bullshit from the Cold war era. We were on the road to a conflict with them for sure. Trump was and has been on board with making peace with Russia and Putin is willing to talk to him and not Clinton. I think we made the right choice.
how is he gonna repeal obamacare and discard the mandate but still keep people with pre-existing conditions covered?
>>711484949
i just haven't seen that many white riots.
it seems that the left is more into the whole rioting thing.
>>711484207
The people who were voting out of fear really are the people who voted for Clinton. They REALLY believe that Trump is going to round up all of the minorities and disabled and throw them in concentration camps.
The people who voted with a level head saw past all of the edited sound bites and propaganda and realized that Trump actually had good policies that would help the country.
>i.e. taxing imports on American businesses who decided to move elsewhere
>i.e. defunding sanctuary cities(a little background, sanctuary cities have needed increased funding for law enforcement. Meanwhile, they can't even track most criminals because a disproportionate number of them have no documentation).
>i.e. minimizing taxes on the middle class
>i.e. reducing restrictions on people who want to start businesses
>i.e. redirecting our efforts from being involved in foreign civil wars towards increasing our economic strength and working on our national debt problem
the list goes on.
People who voted for Clinton: "Guys, we can't have Trump in the white house, he'll blow the world up with nuclear weapons and kill all brown people!!!"
>>711484848
>said fucktard because I was parroting what you said
>called myself an adult because I am on
>referred to the children rioting in streets because they literally skipped their highschool classes to do so
> you're a youngfag. Go back to sleep
>>711484966
>making $60k a year
>not living accordingly to buy food that costs $300 with $60k
>>711476850
I couldn't care less about what he says to "hurt people's feelings". What I'm not too keen on is that he wants to leave NATO and is pretty chummy with Putin. That being said, Hillary's No-Fly-Zone is the most retarded idea since like, i don't know, reality TV.
>>711484558
>i will continue to ignore arguments and victimize myself bc you called me a mean name :( hope mom brings home tendies
you had a chance for discussion and ignored it. fuck off.
>>711484457
responding in text and voting for a monarch are 2 different things
>>711484437
even a R congress wont allow that. i mean, they may lower welfare and healthcare at first. but when poor births soar in 2 years, the workers have to shell out.
the religious extreme right will take over the fed courts tho. ban abortion and birth control are entirely plausible
>>711485153
i find it hilarious that now conservatives are claiming russia aint such abad place after all
lel
>>711485153
oh is your vagina sore because the russians scare you?
>>711485043
The left were spreading messages of peace and love just a night before hitting the streets and ruining their own homesteads. It's not hard to believe Trump's army would do the same. Especially after he made it so clear to his voters that if he lost it was due to corruption.
>>711479168
Not a scratch on him, lefties always lie. Apparently Trump voters are dangerous and were not going to accept results, but Hillary shills and welfare queens are rioting.
>>711485020
What makes you think Russia is strong? Country is 1/10 of the power of China. Their economy is shit. They just act up in Syria to blackmail some kind of useful deal out of Ukraine. How fucking dumb are you?
>>711484946
The person admitted to voting Clinton and is actually still defending doing so. Yes he/she voted that way.
>>711482939
Maybe he's banking on the fact that no POTUS has been successfully impeached and removed in our history. Impeachment does not guarantee the removal of a president either. There is no mechanism in the Constitution for the removal of a failing president.
>>711485020
It's funny because you think she could.
>>711484872
Makes me ashamed to be one of these millennials. Sometimes makes me wish I didn't posses these apparently antiquated world views so I could fit and and maybe have friends and get laid again. I was fine with tolerating the sjw rhetoric, but when it comes to them trying to force me to accept their values is where I drew the line. This election wasn't about the social issues. I don't want to go to war with fucking Russia!
>>711484966
how do you fuck up your finances that badly? you make 60k and you shop at a bodego? seriously anon kys your genes related to intelligence should not be passed on.
>>711485246
if hes gonna drain the swamp, why is all speculation coming forward that he's surrounding himself with the most establishment republicans there are. Palin, Gingrich, Carson. etc.
>>711478784
Either troll or bad case of pseud. Either way don't reply.
>>711485227
I've actually been there, and it's really not.
>>711485308
So are you Russian? Seems like some random shit you pulled up after reading some random news website.
>>711479268
Personally I notice the hammer-and-sicle communist flags.
>>711481344
Uh. You don't look? You will not find.
>>711485020
Yeah, it's funny how everyone was so terrified that President Trump would start a world war, when Clinton was the one with policies that would have actually sparked a world war.
We dodged a bullet(quite literally), and the leftist cry babies owe us their gratitude, their lives, and tons of head.
>>711485357
because its bullshit
this did not happen at all
>>711485136
I'm not the same anon that you were bickering with... but you're not above namecalling. To suggest otherwise would be disingenuous.
Not to mention... you're having a blast with suggesting that every single individual who might disagree with you is a leftist, and furthermore, that leftists are of one mind and one paradigm.
You are no paragon- you are what you say you hate.
>>711485175
I don't discuss politics with anyone who is not prepared to accept any political views other than your own. Your loss
>>711485357
>Child support to a nigger without a job.
>>711485175
>ban abortion and birth control are entirely plausible
No it's not.
>>711485385
case in point
>>711485354
seriously sjw are ruining your life? Ignore them and don't be such a little bitch when you hear things you disagree with. They could take the same advice, but blaming them for everything makes you sound like a whiny little bitch.
>>711485364
>establishment republicans
>Carson
wut? He was a fucking surgeon, not a politician let alone an establishment one.
>>711485354
If war with Russia was you're drive to vote for Trump, then you made a solid choice. You're vastly better than the masses that voted for Hillary solely because she has a vagina.
>>711485392
Where you get your opinions? NSA?
>>711484835
>speaks of things he knows nothing about
>>711485364
I'm not defending Trump but the media's been on bull shit this whole election. Do you think they'll just stop and start being truthful
>>711485175
They are, but that doesn't change the fact that many, man people across the nation voted in spite, or that your current diction is anything but spiteful- which is potentially telling of how you felt about each candidate when you voted.
>>711485137
my taxes are 32% or my wage, house payment 1200 and my car is about 250
>>711484966
I make 23k a year and at 33 years old I'm about to completely own my two story home after only 11 years of payments and I eat whatever the fuck I want whenever the fuck I want. In fact I think I'll order a pizza for tonight.
Of course I'm single with no kids, which helps.
But man, I don't care where you live, if you cant eat well off 60k a year... wtf did you blow your money on? Student loan debt?
>>711485364
>>711485021
>>711484648
pls answer
>>711476850
Trump is a fucking idiot that doesn't know how to run a government, he is like a toddler trying to solve a rubiks cube. He is harmless.
Why did I vote for literally anyone else? Because much like Bush, the real president was Cheney.
With Trump, the real president will be that psychotic fucking asshole, Pence.
And what's worse? The GOP fucking loves him, and fuck me ever harder, Reps have both house and senate.
>>711485279
i guess it's hard for me to believe because i don't have any empirical evidence to support your statement.
i remember when obama was elected and i never saw anything like the stuff i've seen since trump was elected.
>>711480733
>>he is already causing a divide in the American public
I agree with most of those points except this one. The american people have grown comfortable spending all their time in ideological echo chambers. That isn't Trump's fault, he's a victim as much as anyone else. It's easy for Trump-supporters to call for peace and level-headedness when their candidate won, but just a day before Trump was preparing to sue to prevent a Clinton presidency.
I don't like the way his sneering ignorant attitudes now represent my country on a global stage. But that's just because I hold a completely different set of sneering ignorant attitudes myself.
>>711485603
>the fact
Based on what? Your baseless assumption?
>>711485503
Russia has had inflation of around 15% for several years. Look it up. Does it sound so nice now?
>>711485064
i see your points, but those business benefits would be extended to established, american, multi-billion dollar corporations. to say that business law should be the same for Ford as well as a mom and pop store is unreasonable.
additionally, its not just the middle class that would have tax breaks, but the upper-middle and upper class citizens. trump mobilized the poorer americans to prevent their already scant incomes from decreasing, but the law would ultimately serve to protect the outrageous fortunes that 1% enjoy.
>>711485576
Naa I just choose not to make up opinions based on the news. If I can't see it with my own eyes there's hardly point in spreading what could be lies about it. Better to stay out of it than to sound like a complete idiot when you find out you had no idea what you were talking about.
>>711485432
It's not name calling when you're speaking truth so I am above name calling, anyone who opposes right wing ideals is in fact suffering from a social mental disorder.
I never claimed to hate anyone.
>>711485350
I do give her more credit than she deserves for being such a weak woman. But I guarantee that she could've started something and not have the ability to win it.
>>711485308
They might not be strong but people who own nukes have more power than other countries that don't. Plus it doesn't take much for countries like Russia to find Allies to take on The evil USA. The fact that you don't think so only proves that you're a complete moron and need to shutup and listen to the adults who know.
>>711485774
russia is a shitstain of a country. no american would want to live there. to claim that its a good place to live there should bring shame to anyone and their commie ways.
>>711485308
1) Russia had a pretty strong nuclear defense system(we'd level them, but that doesn't mean we won't have war)
2) Putin isn't the type to back down. Doing so is a sign of weakness in Russian culture.
3) We would almost inevitably go to war, and folks between 18 and 30something would be the ones to get drafted to go to war.
>I'm in my late 20s. I have no interest in going to war.
>>711485606
>car is about 250
there is your problem, you should have bought used never lease, leasing bleeds you dry.
>>711485562
Yeah, I know I'm a pussy for letting outside factors I have no control over fuck me over. People are free to have their own feelings and beliefs for what they believe to be right.
>>711485569
She has a vagina, but not the vagina I want to be in charge of the free world.
>>711485649
That, child support taxes car payment insurance you name it, my health insurance alone is about 600 a month.
>>711485463
Baseless accusation. you parroted some garbage Trump rhetoric, I gave you arguments, you got offended. fuck off acting like you wanted any discussion at all. Someone else managed to reply.
>>711485496
How so? His lists of scotus potentials are right wing extremes. Hes clearly going for the religious angle with Palin Pence Gingrich. still waiting on Carson
>>711485603
Trump and Hillary are both turds except Trump is radioactive. That pretty much sums it up.
>>711485343
>Richard Nixon
>Had to step down because if he were impeached, he could had been imprisoned.
>>711485756
as the anon who posted that list originally, i see your point and accept it.
>>711485937
Well learn to manage your money better
>>711485736
I've honestly yet to see too many of these riots outside the major left winged cities. It's almost like the media is trying to make it seem like a bigger deal than it is.
300,000 people rioting seems like a lot sure, but how many is that compared to our population in the US alone?
>>711485844
>But I guarantee that she could've started something
No, she couldn't have started it.
>>711485325
They don't vote for all people voting for Clinton. They are not the entirety of all people who voted Clinton.
They are an individual who voted for Clinton. That you're asking the individual to stop the majority of people, that are beyond their control, from voting or behaving a certain way- or even implying that the individual is somehow responsible for the inclinations and actions of countless individuals across the nation who they have never even met in person, is asinine.
They voted a certain way. They have reasons for believing why they voted a certain way. Neither of you seem like you're open to eachothers' rationale.
What are you trying to do here? Find reasons to complement/vindicate your personal beliefs?
>>711484964
I'm with you on that. Just have to wait and see. The man is a wild card. He's not played by the rules so far. He broke the Republicans and The Democrats followed down cliff with them. That was amusing. I got to admit.
>>711485937
And unless you smoke 3 packs a day and are an alcoholic or something, fuck health insurance at that cost.
You're banking on either needing years of chemo and radiation or being ripped off in the end at that cost.
>>711486040
its less people than the difference between the popular vote from both candidates
>>711485940
Lol "fuck off" look at your big boy words. Very mature, again I don't discuss politics with children who post naked pictures of their underage sisters MODS
>>711486039
I would but there isn't any left over. My take home every 2 weeks is about 650 after taxes and child support I work part time too on the side so i can pay my other bills.
>>711486043
Why not? Where's your argument? She would've been Commander and Chief of the Best Army in the World. You have no argument.
>>711485760
On national polls, countless interviews, countless social media posts, countless real-life conversations, the results of the total national votes cast, and this thread, if not countless other threads.
>>711485600
The MSM has lost a lot of followers. People are turning to alternative media.; Info Wars, Young Turks, Rebel Media, Drudge Report.
I'm hoping it hit a critical mass and that those bastards will keep losing money.
>>711484986
> Lol no
Here's the rule taken straight from Healthcare.gov:
For 2016, the fee is $695 or 2.5% of your income — whichever is higher.
It could easily be thousands.
And I don't see how it's been more beneficial than what we had before. What has it done for you?
Maybe I'm naive, but the premium for bronze plan with a $1000 deductible is over $130 more a month than the comprehensive health/dental/vision/prescription PPO plan I have through work. All with a deductible that's ten times less.
And I agree that the housing crisis was a larger economic problem, but the same could be said for a lot of things that get blamed on presidents. They're the head coach of this team and they have to shoulder the blame for anything that happens, good and bad. It's part of what comes with the title of "leader."
>>711486137
The tax fine is more expensive at the year end than paying for insurance during the year under the care act.
>>711486192
>child support
Your fault for being a retard.
>>711485945
He came the closest, yup.
>>711486137
600 a month over 10 years = 72,000
So yeah, a fucking ripoff. I spent two weeks in the hospital with an ulcerative colitis flareup, had sigmoidoscope and blood transfusions and all that shit, came out costing 18 grand
>>711486068
No, just to argue a point. We know that we can't play nice with liberals. That is what motivated most conservative Trump supporters (yes, i know there are a lot of liberal ones as well) to get out, take time off work, and vote Trump.
>>711485883
I dont get the war talk, guess you got brainwashed or you had already made up your mind and absorbed anything thrown at you. There wont be a war. If you believed that at your late 20s you should really grow up and check your world view. france, north korea, israel have nukes too. Pakistan and india have had three wars when both have been nuclear countries. STUPID INBREED REDNECK IDIOT.
Kinda funny how Hillary has conceded but won't come out and address the rioters? It would definitely help some if either her or their mighty ape ruler King Obunga would actually address the situation. I guess it's probably better for her at this point to just let it happen though.
>>711486326
Fucking your mother was the best feeling thing i've ever done.
>>711483258
not that guy but
>we owe some people trillions of dollars so sorry ,poor people, youre gonna have to starve to death. but billionaires are okay you can keep all ur moneys :)
>>711476850
I'm worried that he doesn't believe in climate change, and won't invest enough in clean energy, quickly falling way behind in development in this area compared to other countries. Coal and natural gas are not the correct path to energy independence in my opinion.
I disagree with his tax plan - I don't think cutting taxes and government programs at this time will be beneficial when we need to rebuild our crumbling infrastructure and work on building a stronger education system.
I worry about the level of financial deregulation that will likely take place, unleashing banks and hedge funds into high risk ventures, and we'll end up in a similar situation to the housing crisis that led to the 2008 recession.
Interested to hear how a trump supporter feels about these questions.
>>711486237
I agree the MSM is dying an ugly death, they didn't even try to hide it this election.
Also, Info Wars is way off the deep end, just saying.
>>711486487
yeah? How's that "best feeling" feeling now, daddy?
