Meat is murder. Learn.
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Meat is murder.
Learn.
>>711377777
checked, you lil SJW, you
>>711377777
didnt read but wo dese quinta
>>711377777
so, would you be opposed to eating insects?
entomophagy is really the best route if you're looking to help the earth.
>>711377777
Murder is delicious.
>>711377777
but what if i abuse animals on a daily basis? does that qualify me for eating meat?
also meat is delicious. nothing can compare to a fresh burger on a grill.
>>711378413
noodles contain eggs.
swing and a miss.
>>711377777
Wasted quints for a vegan faggot with a dumbass, false-analogy comic.
>>711378413
yougurt is an animal product too. WTF infographic?
>>711377777
I'd eat you too if it werent for the prions
Humans are a omnivores it's natural for us to eat meat and vegetable faggot learn how the food chain works we kill things for food every animal on this planet kills things for food. Even by eating just plants you are killing those plants to do so. You fucking plant murderer. Vegans are just people who love to see plants suffer. People who eat meat and plants are for equality.
Bitch
>>711377777
That's hot.
>>711377777
Nope. You're simply a faggot.
>meat is murder
I honestly don't give a shit. I'll kill the animals myself and still eat them.
>>711380109
Best post ever.
>>711378523
>At least 50% of Greenhouse gas emissions worldwide can be attributed to livestock and their byproducts
So we should kill more animal?
>>711379384
What about a steak on a grill? Those are pretty fantastic as well
>>711380456
No, we should stop breeding them in such huge fucking numbers
>>711377777
plants are living things to ya know
>>711380456
yes. particularly the bipedal ones.
>>711377777
I love murder... I love meat... Meat is love, meat is life.
>>711377777
nice quints.
you have described pretty much every part I like about meat, but you forgot to add that it is fucking delicious.
>>711380585
Yes. Death to all birds.
>>711379384
There are way better options than meat, black bean burgers are just as good.
>>711380689
> tfw no matter how vegans try to spin it nothing will change and nobody will take them seriously.
haha
Meat is a poor substitute for a plant based diet
Hey I was looking for some reading while I enjoyed these baby backs.
>>711381042
How many beans do I need to eat to get the same protein as 8oz of lean meat?
>>711381042
they both add nitrogen to the soil.
>>711377777
>hey alan what are you doing to that plant?
i put it in a box so i can cross breed them
>so you're forcing it to have sex?
it's not possible to sexually abuse a plant, this is cross breeding
>what's the difference?
it's not like I enjoy it, it's for a good reason
>what is the reason?
i want to take it's child, rip it apart, steal her fruits, then kill her when she isn't useful, i love the earth don't judge me you carnivore
you've been lied to. bugs are fucking delicious.
Par for the course, common sense will always be decried and denigrated on /b, a haven for spoiled children who have no bearing on what is real and true.
Keep watching Colbert and Maher, kiddies, bury that head as far down into the sand as you can get it.
Hint: if you go deep enough, you'll eventually pop up in China.
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>>711381042
you uh, wanna talk about your beliefs?? or are we doomed to communicate through crummy images?
>>711379653
>wasting quints
hurr repeadeeng numbars friendo hehehe
>>711381716
Where do you draw the line, though?
"I don't eat red meat 'cuz cows and sheep have big soft eyes, but dumb birds and fish are ok."
"I don't eat mammals, but fish are too stupid to care."
"I don't eat vertebrates, but insects are tiny and even dumber than fish."
?
>>711380109
Worst post ever
Its in the name of health and global sustainability. Vegans have no problems with countrymen who hunt their own meat, so long as you aren't supported the big farm industry
>>711380264
Bet you couldn't you faggot pussy, would probably try kill a cow with .177 pleb
>>711381952
What else can I say that these don't?
It's self evident, eating meat is a waste of life.
>>711381413
Top KEK
Nate Diaz, proud Vegan
>>711382086
oh, bug guy isnt OP.
I'm this guy.
>>711379324
also, the protein conversion rate of crickets is 2:1. theoretically you put two pounds of lettuce in one side, and you get one pound of animal protein out of the other. you could actually be self sufficient this way.
>>711377777
Well your logic is retarded, so it kind of completely invalidates your point.
>>711382320
You're a goddamn retard if you think all protein is the same. You should start by researching amino acids (essential vs non-essential) and their bio-availability from various dietary sources.
>>711382320
I rather eat 8 ounces of chicken breast and get over 40 grams of protein.
>>711382320
I wanna know what you think about bug dude.
>>711382666
Hence your numbers...
what do you pussies eat for breakfast?
>>711377777
super lucky number seven!
too bad it was a complete lie though
>>711382671
Bugs are fuckin wierd
>>711382883
not an argument
>>711382250
look at me, i know about guns exd
>>711383129
the hell did you expect an argument over, he just made a joke
>>711383337
NOT AN ARGUMENT
>>711383129
Didn't know we were arguing. You just stated a personal preference for bird-eating over plant-eating rooted in your laziness and desire to work less for your nutrition (despite the fact that if you got the same amt of protein from a veg diet, you'd also be getting far more vitamins, minerals, and phytonutrients than from a piece of cooked dead bird muscle)
fried bugs taste like fried everything else.
fucking delicious
>>711379366
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>>711383553
>wanting to get more nutrition easier is laziness
>man didn't fucking struggle through the millennial to innovate ways of getting more and better nutrients easier so he could pursue greater things like fucking civilization
vegans need to be gassed
fried ants mutherfucka
>>711383711
"better nutrients" is wrong, and those who desire to "gas" people more intelligent than them because they are more intelligent than them are an aberration of the evolutionary process.
Also, I think you meant "millenia", millenial turdfuck.
>>711384224
>attempting to take the moral high ground on /b/
Is there anything more futile or pathetic? Kill yourself you beta faggot. You might just end up dead from a deficiency if you forget your supplements anyway :^)
>>711382950
I just really liked this post.
>>711384224
oh nos a typo suddenly vegans are frail jaundiced tumblrites that can't get anybody to follow their stupid fad
Got Locusts???
NO PROBLEM!
>>711380800
>Just as good
I've been a vegetarian for 6 years and I am calling you out on this bullshit. Black Bean burgers a fucking delicious, but a beef burger is nowhere in the realm of that.
>>711382173
I'm pretty sure our livestock is in no danger of going extinct and how would you feel if someone walked up to you when your enjoying your food and said "you know that's not healthy and gross and also your a murderer so yea bye" nigger I don't care if its healthy or not ill eat whatever the fuck I want not everyone cares to life a health life style to the point where they wont eat meat
>>711382320
you're a waste of life. It's natural for humans to eat meat
shut the fuck up and eat your god damn meatballs you faggots.
>>711377777
Agreed. In general, people should go vegan. The moral argument for veganism is very strong and the environmental effects of animal agriculture should not be ignored.
>>711382173
cows would no longer exist if it werent for the meat industry. they are too domesticated to be let back in the wild.
you know we messed with their milk production right? they now need us to milk them. and its been this way for a couple thousand years before you were born.
chickens lay eggs in a manner that does not mesh with nature anymore. these unfertile eggs attract predators and have chickens warming eggs that will never hatch.
similarly my dog cannot survive in the wild anymore.
>>711379384
meat is not delicious. The stuff you season it with is delicious. Ever had unseasoned beef or chicken? Kind of gross.
>>711384881
You're right, beef is infinitely times better. In a realm of its own
>>711385377
exactly. Meat may be murder but vegetarianism is GENOCIDE
Get over yourselves you pussies.
>>711379515
Only the good stuff. Most of the pasta you buy at a grocery store does not contain egg, unless you buy really fancy noodles.
>>711385249
there is no moral argument. morality is an arbitrary construct.
other than that I agree.
>>711385419
yes i have, and its fucking wonderful. stop defending your stupid shit.
>>711379695
it says soy yogurt you retard
>>711385419
You do realize everyone has different tastes right? just because you think meat is gross without seasoning doesn't mean everyone on this planet does. Also you could say the same vice versa you wouldnt eat seasoning by itself because its gross
>>711377777
eating is murder. life feeds on life. everything you consume has been alive. get over it or kill yourself, preferably the later so something can feed on you and your life won't be a total waste.
>>711377777
Eating isnt about morality, you do it because you have to, everything you eat had to die so you could eat it
>>711385668
why do vegetarians try so hard to copy animal based dishes?
>>711382584
hey dipshit, it's easy as fuck to get all of your essential amino acids from a vegan diet.
>>711385249
And the angel of the lord came unto me, snatching me up from my place of slumber.
And took me on high, and higher still until we moved to the spaces betwixt the air itself.
And he brought me into a vast farmlands of our own Midwest.
And as we descended, cries of impending doom rose from the soil.
One thousand, nay a million voices full of fear. And terror possessed me then
And I begged, "Angel of the Lord, what are these tortured screams?"
And the angel said unto me, "These are the cries of the carrots, the cries of the carrots!
You see, Reverend Maynard, tomorrow is harvest day and to them it is the holocaust."
And I sprang from my slumber drenched in sweat like the tears of one million terrified brothers and roared,
"Hear me now, I have seen the light! They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you!
Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers!"
Can I get an amen? Can I get a hallelujah? Thank you Jesus
>>711385843
because they cant get over the fact they cant get good food due to their stupid ass morals so they decide to make food that takes like shit that looks like it.
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>>711385510
so vegans are trying to kill all livestock and kill plants to feed 7 billion people forever
fucking sickos
>>711385779
>everything you consume has been alive.
yeah no shit. But plants don't have central nervous systems and, as far as we know, can not feel pain. inb4 "dur plants respond to stimuli so it's exactly the same as a mammal or bird with a highly developed central nervous system". Don't be a retard.
>>711386233
exactly.
Vegans are the worst types of people and should be shot in the streets like the worthless animals they are.
>>711386393
look at the yummy vegan food. OH WAIT! THESE ARE BUGS! BUGS ARE ANIMALS! ANIMALS CANT BE EATEN!
>>711379515
Spaghetti =/= noodles.
>>711381042
step 1: eat meat
step 2: eat plants, too (you're a fucking omnivore).
step 3: ???
step 4: piss off faggot OP!
this is also now a Spider-Man thread.
>>711377777
So I was fapping to some furry gore while also browsing /b/ a bit when I came across this thread.
As soon as I read "meat is murder" I remembered the huge, huge steak I'll be having for dinner and at that moment I also happened to cum. It seemed fitting though, that steak is going to be delicious.
>>711386361
whats the difference in eating something that's feels pain compared to something that might not, It's murder either way. If you kill a human in a painless way without their consent it doesn't make it right
>>711377777
What was that?
i was too busy eating a meaty burger.
>>711386522
not OP. totally different guy. that being said their fucking delicious.
>>711382424
he gets his protein from sucking cock. just like OP.
>>711381413
this
also, kek
>>711385600
Double zero. You are brainwashed and don't even know it. Right and wrong are absolutes. Life after death is real, and you more narrow-minded than you can comprehend at present. Remember, you must empty your cup before it can be filled...
>>711386572
>>711386361
still killing something to sustain yourself. is the fact that it has certain chemical changes in it that our brains process as pain really that important to the underlying fact you are converting something else to base components to sustain yourself? or are you just trying to justify your form of murder cause you need a reason to feel better than others and appear less shallow?
>>711385843
ok, first off, we don't always do this. A lot of what we eat is not derived from any sort of meat-based dish. We do this for some of our food, though, because we were raised in a culture where most people do eat meat (most of us were raised as omnivores), and therefore much of the food in our culture is meat-based. We are normal people with full-time jobs. Most of us don't have the time, energy, or ability to think up creative new dishes like Grant Fucking Achatz, so we see a dish with meat in it and say "ok, i liked that dish when I was an omnivore, so i'll just replace the meat with something else".
>>711377777
I don't mind. I like being a murderer.
*teleports behind cow* Pssh... Nothing personel, kid. *eats hamburger*
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>>711386945
if you had access to absolute morality, how would you know?
>>711387203
You sure you're in the right thread there dumbass?
Or are you just spamming because you're retarded?
>>711377777
taking a shower is also murder, you kill all of the poor bacteria :( , please stop taking a shower or washing your hands....
>>711387342
dude. stop posting cooked bugs. Thats gross.
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>>711387066
THIS IS NOW A GET THREAD
>>711386945
>mfw when calling someone brainwashed while being this brainwashed
>>711387508
u first
>>711387533
NICE DUBS
>>711387582
No no, you first my friend
>>711386703
>if you kill a human in a painless way without their consent it doesn't make it right.
Yeah no shit. Because they are a being who has a conscious. They experience life, have emotions, etc. and obviously it's wrong to take that away. Mammals and birds also clearly have emotions, consciousness, etc. We are reasonably certain that this is true because, like us, they have brains, and also because we are able to observe their behavior.
>>711387234
I do, as we all do. There are many people on this planet who rationalize evil deeds because they can, because it seems the "normal" thing to do. But, deep down, they know better.
If people would just invest some small modicum of effort into peeling away the layers of social programming and psychological armoring that they hide behind, the world would be a very different place.
>>711386037
Amen!
Hallelujah!
Tell it like it is Reverend Maynard!
>>711387706
But they don't have the thinking capacity to be considered sentient. No cow has ever questioned what happens when the cow next to him gets taken away
>>711385009
it's also natural for humans to murder each other. That doesn't make it right.
>>711387437
european based cultures always have this hangup about bugs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iy06G-_WCsM
here, watch this guy be a giant pussy for five minutes saying he cant eat them and then decide they're actually pretty good. straight up green eggs and ham syndrome
>>711387706
Killing something without emotions is still murder. Stop trying to justify yourself. Emotions and conscious doesn't change the fact that plants are living and killing a plant is literally no different than killing an animal
>>711377777
NO ONE CAREEEES
>>711386361
>plants don't have central nervous systems
Fucking domainists.
>>711377777
see the issue here is you appealing to the conscience of one of the most notoriously unethical, racist and sociapathic places on the internet.
also checked u massive faggit
>>711387986
You don't know that, nor does anyone else, and there is even evidence to the contrary. You are desperately trying to avoid responsibility for your actions by clinging to the dominant paradigm. Learn to think for yourself.
>>711388206
it isn't. And even if it was it's just social standards that make it not right. If humans never worked together and only murdered each other we'd still be in the stone age
>>711388457
I'm thinking for myself, and I think that meat tastes good
now what?
>>711387986
how do you know? just cause they can't communicate with us doesn't mean that they're brain work radically different from how ours do. i sure the first several time it happens the cow is like "what's going on" but since it doesn't effect that cow in a negative way soon it just becomes a fact of life. i'm sure if you took that cow and had it watch what happens when another cow gets taken away and inflict pain on it while it watches the next time one of its cohorts gets carted off it will react differently. life is conditioning to stimulus. we're no different from them other than we can communicate more effectively.
>>711387728
eating meat isn't social programming. its natural for us as humans
![c3f18ab5_f147_14f5[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/eW5kKQz.jpg "c3f18ab5_f147_14f5[1].jpg")
Shame that veganism is nothing but a cult that sell lies.
>>711388457
bugs never looked at me funny for eating them.
>>711388635
more like a way to apply the smallest of effort to appear less shallow.
>>711388562
That's not thinking, that's abandoning higher thought and submitting to your primal urges.
>>711387986
>no cow has ever questioned what happens when the cow next to him is taken away
Actually, cows do exhibit distress when their offspring are taken from them.
>They don't have the thinking capacity...
so are you saying that thinking capacity is what makes it wrong to kill a person? So is it more permissible/ethical or "ok" to murder an infant or a mentally retarded child than to murder a more intelligent human? inb4 "yes kill the retards kekekekekek"
>>711388457
theres no evidence that pants aren't sentient either faggot. We just assume that because they have no brain and things with brains are all we know to be sentient
>>711380489
You didn't fight your way anywhere for anything. One person isn't responsible for millions of years of evolution.
>>711388580
That's like saying eating plastic is natural because it comes from oil which is in the ground, so it's natural.
>>711388457
is a lion immoral?
>>711377777
If cows were humans you'd have a point.
Btw what is your plan for lions. They murder animals all the time, ripping them to shreds while the animals are still conscious. What do we do with them? Give them death penalty? Life in prison?
>>711389005
are you implyinh plastic is against nature?
>>711377777
>checked
You're not special. If aliens wanted to treat humans like cattle, that's how it'd be. You want something different? Either get along with them and have friendly relations, or fight back.
As we are, we are the animals on top able to eat those below it. You want to be compassionate? Get a pet to love and take care of. You can't take care of every damn thing like it's your friend. Why aren't you petitioning the bacterial genocide every time people wash their hands? Shit dies, shit gets killed, shit gets eaten, whether it's by humans animals or other animals. Quit being a pretentious higher than thou hypocrite. We consume organisms. You think your garden wanted to become a salad? Fuck no, it wanted to grow and breed out like everything else.
Welcome to the rat race of life, faggot.
>>711389005
That is the most retarded statement I've ever heard on this website right next to "traps aren't gay" Humans have been eating meat forever and so have every carnivorous animal and omnivorous animal on this planet. It's called the food chain faggot
all animals are on the plate in my world.
>>711381730
Correlation =/= Causation
It might have something to do with the fact that to be a vegetarian/vegan you are literally required to watch your diet, whereas most meat eaters couldn't give enough of a shit to regulate their diet.
I bet the heart disease has 100 times more to do with the copious about of Cheeto's and Mtn Dew than it does with eating meat.
>>711389500
>vegans even logic
when you argue with a fool soon it hard to tell who the fool really is.
i honestly prefer dogs
so hard to find dog meat though what's wrong with ppl
>>711389920
>so hard to find dog meat though
How? Just go to a rescue center.
>>711390065
holy shit so many dogs could be rescued
you're a god
>>711385419
I've eaten unseasoned vegetables :(
>>711377777
I say this as someone who has worked part time at a industry scale slaughter house; I'm okay with the meat industry. I don't see the problem.
If some people identity with cows and pigs then they're mental.
>>711377777
Murder is natural.
Learn.
>>711390444
go murder someone, go learn them
>>711390065
>>so hard to find dog meat though
>How? Just go to a rescue center.
DAT EDGE
>>711381042
plant protein is a joke. do some research without looking for a specific outcome for once.
>>711390888
off the top of my head quinoa and amaranth.
botanist-ed
cricket flour
>>711391027
I'm a body builder. Do you have any idea how difficult it is for the body to make use of plant based proteins?
>>711377777
What a fucking waste of quints
>>711387706
Animals don't have the same rights as humans fucktard , Theu don't have the same mental and thinking capacity as us
>>711386882
But what are the nutrition facts?
>>711391231
no idea. I personally find body building to be pointless.
meat is murder.. on my thighs!
Fun Fact: the easiest, most nutritious meal to be had on the africa savanna is a termite mound.
>>711388486
1) I think maybe we have different ideas of "natural". I submit that humans almost certainly have a longer tradition of murder than of animal agriculture. But let's not get caught up in an argument over what is "natural", because I think that is beside the point.
2) You are correct about how we would still be in the stone age if we just murdered each other. However, I don't think this is the only argument against murder. I hope to remain alive. I do not want to die. And I, like most people, have enough empathy to (safely, I believe) assume that others feel the same way about not wanting to die. For whatever reason (I'm sure it can be explained chemically), it feels "wrong" to me to kill another, knowing that they want to stay alive. I guess I'm just trying to give a long-winded explanation of the Golden Rule, and I'm probably butchering it. But yeah. I think the Golden Rule is good because it asks you to take into account the thoughts and feelings of others, which are not necessarily more or less important than one's own. I think it's generally good for people to be happy, and treating others with respect makes them happy. I also think it is good for animals to be happy, and treating animals with respect makes them happy. So I think it is good to treat humans and animals with respect. I don't think there's any "god" who says that happiness is good, or whatever. And I don't think I believe in any kind of "objective morality", but I do think that people should treat others with respect, and I don't see why we should only limit the most basic level of respect (ie, not killing) to only humans, when animals would also like to be treated with a certain amount of respect. I probably just butchered this whole paragraph but whatever.
>>711377777
Disturbingly realistic.
I only eat fish and chicken but it's kind of the same thing. Still fucked up. When will lab meat be a thing? Healthy, non-tumorous lab meat?
>>711381716
I don't doubt that with the right spices and whatnot, but humans didn't evolve to eat bugs. It makes no sense for us. We evolved to eat meat and fish.
Making humans eat bugs is like making cats eat fruit or dogs eat chocolate. It's just not meant to be.
Maybe one day the bugfood agenda will be pushed on the poor, but you can bet your life that the rich will ALWAYS enjoy their red meat and fish.
>>711392620
why bother? eat a cicada
>>711377777
Who said I didn't want to murder? You flaccid cock.
>>711392461
And blacks think they arent subhuman
Look at it like this
Black man eats bugs
Evolves into white man who eats steaks
Evolves into faggot who eats plants
Who evolves into super fag who only eats plant derivatives
Therefore, vegans consider blacks subhuman
>>711392575
where do plants get respect?
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>>711381820
Except the scorpion, this is disgusting poor people food.
One day 99.99999% of the population will live in third world slums eating this disgusting crap while the super trillionaire elite rich assholes will eat steak after mouth watering steak.
>>711392913
Because I don't live in a third world slum lol. I'll continue eating chicken and fish.
>>711390946
A disgrace to sushi.
China and sushi do not fucking mix. Japan is the sole interpreter of sushi for a reason.
>>711392867
yes, we very much did evolve to eat bugs. it helped us invent tools in the first place. not to mention, what animals did we eat before we invented stone work?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inFkERO30oM
>>711378413
That's funny, because I am not a vegetarian and my bad cholesterol levels are around 130 every time I get tested.
>>711380565
This is now a mudslime hate thread
>>711377777
Plants are alive too, dumbass
>Hurr durr plants don't move or say "Owie" when you hit them so they are not alive
you vegans, always saying shit like this and it's just as meaningless as ever. If your view was worthwhile, you wouldn't have to preach it. You do it to feel better about yourself and your poor life choices. It's ok to admit it, you're a flaming buttpirate.
>>711392575
The problem is your treating animal and humans like their equals. No species on this planet is equal to another and that's ok. It's natural for a species to be more protective of their own species than another species. Some people don't feel empathy for animals because they can't relate. If animals were on the same level of intelligence as we are and could speak English it would be a completely different story
(ik this reponse isn't structured well but I'm too lazy)
>>711393017
I don't really understand the question. To the best of human knowledge, plants do not care about being treated with respect. To the best of our knowledge they have no emotions and do not care about dying, so I don't really think it's wrong to kill a plant. However, we know that non-human animals do have central nervous systems and emotions, and we can observe that they care about dying, so I think it is wrong to kill them.
>>711377777
checked
i dont care
>>711377777
Learn to kill more efficiently, I agree...
>>711393341
Fuck are you retarded? We are not chimpanzees you fucking idiot. We came from savannahs, not jungles. COMPLETELY different evolutionary tract. Do you have any understanding of evolution and why we are not the same as modern day monkeys or chimps?
In the savannah there is plenty of red meat to hunt. In the Jungle, not so much. We evolved to eat meat. Monkeys evolved to eat insects. Not us.
We descended from ancestors who ate red meat on a wide scale. Bugs are not as common in the savannah as they are in the jungle.
>>711392030
it's more relevant that you admit to not knowing enough about the subject in which you aim to educate others.
>>711377777
Hahaha "what is the reason for keeping a chicken" "I want to murder it" sounds like a very valid argument and not a strawman at all
>>711378413
It's extremely naive to think beans and potato is going to replace your protein intake. The protein from meat is very different from the protein in plants. Just because they are both called protein by an overly simplistic nutrition fact label doesn't mean they are the same thing, are absorbed the same way, or play the same role in the body.
You need actual meat proteins. Fish can provide it if you eat enough of it.
>>711393858
Rabbit is better.
>>711385510
>exactly. Meat may be murder but vegetarianism is GENOCIDE
Both options are good.
>>711393858
The vegans have already admitted to not knowing this (IN THIS THREAD). Fucking embarrassing.
>>711378312
99+% of the water in the figures you retards always use is RAINWATER.
>>711381730
I Don't think that's true, please cite your sources.
ostrich meat is good meat. they are dumber than chickens, if that eases your guilt
>>711382173
Vegans do have a problem. They believe humans are herbivores when we're not.
>>711394100
Honestly I believe it. After all, you have to count those Murricans who eat McDonald's everyday which skew the statistics quite a bit.
>>711394183
Those legs look delicious. I wouldn't mind trying a giant ostrich drumstick.
>>711393608
80% of the nations on earth STILL eats bugs.
" Coprolites in caves in the Ozark Mountains were found to contain ants, beetle larvae, lice, ticks, and mites.[22] Evidence suggests that evolutionary precursors of Homo sapiens were also entomophagous. Insectivory also features to various degrees amongst extant primates, such as marmosets and tamarins,[23] and some researchers suggest that the earliest primates were nocturnal, arboreal insectivores.[4] Similarly, most extant apes are insectivorous to some degree.[24][25][26]"
>>711378413
Plant omega 3 is shit and completely ineffective. Only fish omega 3 is absorbed by the body in a way that cures schizophrenia and other mental illnesses.
Stop posting these fucking lies. Meat cannot be replaced by fucking plants.
Think about it.
If you could get the same nutrients from plants, why the fuck would any species go through the trouble of evolving to absorb meat instead? Could it be that meat is more nutrient dense, efficiently absorbed by the body, or flat out provides forms of nutrients which simply don't exist in the plant kingdom?
vegetarians are fucking naive.
>>711394528
>Plant omega 3 is shit and completely ineffective. Only fish omega 3 is absorbed by the body in a way that cures schizophrenia and other mental illnesses.
can you cite your source on that?
>>711393433
I'm not saying that they are equal. But I think their life is still worth something and that it's wrong to kill them. That's literally the lowest baseline for ethical behavior: the idea that it is wrong to kill. I am saying that animals are worthy of that. I'm not saying that we should be providing elementary education for all animals or give them the right to vote. I'm saying we shouldn't kill them.
>it's natural for a species to be more protective of their own species
absolutely. And I think anybody would defend a human before a cow. But cows aren't a threat to us. We're not protecting ourselves from cows. Like, if a tiger tried to eat a person and I was nearby with a gun, I would shoot the tiger without hesitation. But cows are just minding their own business. There's no reason to kill the cows other than for food which is unnecessary because veganism/vegetarianism is a viable option.
>>711394462
80% of the nations on earth are also living in slums experiencing starvation en masse, which is why they eat fucking bugs in the first place. Doesn't seem like too great of an example to follow.
>" Coprolites in caves in the Ozark Mountains were found to contain ants, beetle larvae, lice, ticks, and mites.[22] Evidence suggests that evolutionary precursors of Homo sapiens were also entomophagous. Insectivory also features to various degrees amongst extant primates, such as marmosets and tamarins,[23] and some researchers suggest that the earliest primates were nocturnal, arboreal insectivores.[4] Similarly, most extant apes are insectivorous to some degree.[24][25][26]"
Like I said you have no understanding of evolution. Precursors of homo sapiens is very vague way to describe it, and implies that these precursor>>(s)<< are not direct ancestors, but in fact indirect ancestors.
Wolves and coyotes share similar ancestors, but they do not have the same single ancestor. They are not the same animal.
We have NO direct ancestor that ate meat and are only evolved to eat insects as a last resort if meat is not available.
>>711394183
I want to try that back tender.
What's really good though is duck. Anyone ever had? It's pretty rare in stores here in the US but I find it occasionally. Not the right climate to hunt it.
>>711394685
http://www.psychiatryadvisor.com/schizophrenia-and-psychoses/omega-3-fatty-acids-fish-oil-schizophrenia-psychosis/article/432994/
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2015/09/03/omega-3-fats-schizophrenia.aspx
http://curealliance.org/can-fish-oil-stop-schizophrenia/
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2053882-fish-oil-pills-may-help-teenagers-stave-off-schizophrenia/
http://www.psychiatryadvisor.com/schizophrenia-and-psychoses/omega-3-fatty-acids-fish-oil-schizophrenia-psychosis/article/432994/
http://www.livescience.com/51812-omega-3-prevent-schizophrenia.html
>>711389500
"People were monkeys so it's only natural that they remain monkeys forever and not evolve or ever learn anything new, because that's not natural."
You sound awfully defensive of the status quo.
>>711394877
Duck is fairly common. tastes kind of like chicken but tougher. I can never find a place that really prepares it properly without it costing $30 or more.
>>711393608
and who gives a fuck what I evolved to eat? I know how to cook. I can render most any living thing into a tasty meal.
I similarly dont have any capacity for eating meat, I have to take these chunks off the carcass, roast it over a fire, then sit down with a knife. but it tastes good so why the fuck not?
bugs are also tasty when fried so why the fuck not?
>>711395111
I'm not saying adding bugs to your dish is a bad thing, but replacing meat with bugs is pretty retarded.
>>711394864
>no understanding of human evolution.
>is an anthropologist.
>>711394877
Not rare at all. I live in MI, and duck hunting is very common. Also know people who keep ducks for eggs. Also, every decent chinese restaurant ever.
>>711380109
this.
vitamin b12 comes from meat. plants and powder won't give you enough. you'll become anemic and destroy your central nervous system without meat in your diet. ironically eating only veggies will turn you into a vegetable in a hospital bed rekt with alzheimer's and dementia.
>>711395069
I roast it with butter at home, I don't really dine out much.
Lately I've just been eating a lot of burgers, one every few days or so. I get 90% lean ground, canned mushrooms, and swiss cheese, and I just cook the mushrooms in the same pan and season the meat and mushrooms with garlic powder and cumin...no salt or pepper. I decided to get some sesame seed buns and toast them instead of normal bread, and funnily enough it does seem more enjoyable to eat, like I'm at a burger joint or something. Used to eat my burgers with ketchup and brown mustard, switched to mayonnaise on the buns and barbecue sauce dripped over the burger. It was a good switch.
>>711395341
Up here in New England there's like one store I know of that sometimes has duck halves, and we have few or no wild ducks. Plenty of Canadian geese though.
I don't give a fuck about that. I just don't like all the hormones we're putting in that shit.
Factory farming is pretty bad though. Just give the thing a decent life and a quick death.
>>711394827
We can't stop killing them at this point. Humans are the only thing keeping Cows, Chickens, and Pigs from going extinct. They have no place in nature anymore and keeping them alive without the benefit of food would be a waste of resources. If we suddenly decided To stop using livestock Chickens, Pigs, and Cow's would all go extinct. If you look at how all these animals we keep as livestock have change overtime you would see. Just look at pick related. We and livestock are in an unbreakable give and take relationship. We let them live safe lives for an amount of time and keep their species from going extinct in exchange for Milk, Eggs, and their lives. Being vegan isn't saving anything
>>711394112
really? a link to howstuffworks? That's incredibly flimsy. There is no proof that plants have feelings or consciousness, and the articles that your page links to even say so.
>>711395697
you could still keep chickens for eggs and cows for milk. Pigs have no other reason to live than to become bacon.
>>711395565
>I roast it with butter at home, I don't really dine out much.
Man I want to make duck one day. A duck I hunted myself.
>Lately I've just been eating a lot of burgers, one every few days or so. I get 90% lean ground, canned mushrooms, and swiss cheese, and I just cook the mushrooms in the same pan and season the meat and mushrooms with garlic powder and cumin...no salt or pepper. I decided to get some sesame seed buns and toast them instead of normal bread, and funnily enough it does seem more enjoyable to eat, like I'm at a burger joint or something. Used to eat my burgers with ketchup and brown mustard, switched to mayonnaise on the buns and barbecue sauce dripped over the burger. It was a good switch.
That doesn't sound healthy dude. Red meat that often isn't too good especially that shitty meat imitation they call "ground beef". You're eating about 40% of meat. They rest is chemical filler including ammonia. You might want to google pink slime.
If I eat any red meat it has to be organic to avoid hormones and never fucking ground beef. I only eat red meat on special occasions. Chicken is my bread and butter.
>>711395697
True but it's sad how they suffer. The meat industry really does need a rehaul. Is it that much to ask to treat them with some fucking dignity at least? Just double the amount of space they have to roam around and pass on the cost to the customer? I wouldn't mind paying another 10%-30% for that depending on the quality. Chicken is already cheap as fuck.
This is why hunting meat is so much better. Sure you're still killing, but it's less fucking depraved and sadistic.
>>711395021
>it's only natural that they remain monkeys forever and not evolve or ever learn anything new, because that's not natural.
"its only natural but its not natural" Vegans are monkeys
>>711389005
Delusional.
>>711395697
Where's the great loss, here? What if mosquitoes were suddenly extinct? Would you feel remorse and sympathy for them?
>>711395961
but we kill chickens and cow eventually too theres no way to put pigs back in nature
I'll just leave this here
>>711378413
That 16lb of grain vs 1 lb of meat really got me thinking.
The kings and queens will always be the ones eating the meat. And the serfs at the bottom will always be the ones eating the grain.
I'm going to enjoy my meat while I still can. Before we're all chipped in the future and monitored like the fucking cattle we are currently eat. The rich will always have their meat. One day, we'll have nothing but grass and bugs.
>>711396059
I can agree with you there. I don't think animals should have to suffer before we kill them. I think we should treat them with dignity but we cant just stop killing them
>>711396382
Meat to quote this one not the other one
>>711378312
>>711396059
>That doesn't sound healthy dude. Red meat that often isn't too good especially that shitty meat imitation they call "ground beef". You're eating about 40% of meat. They rest is chemical filler including ammonia. You might want to google pink slime.
Conspiracyfag PLS, do you even into FDA? Mechanically separated meat is absolutely fine, and that's not at all what ground beef is to begin with; that's for chicken, mostly. Don't be a conspiracyfag.
Red meat also will not kill your heart and rape your organs unless you're a fat gluttonous fuck, never exercise, subsist on it entirely, and have a family history of heart disease.
>chicken is my bread and butter
I hope to FUCK you don't get chicken patties after all your miscombination of things over red meat.
>>711396379
What is this supposed to prove
>>711396539
No kidding man. I regularly see chicken breast on sale for $2/lb or less.
Now I've been seeing some disgusting shit called "enhanced" chicken that's even cheaper.
Are people that fucking greedy that they can't pay a little extra for actual chicken without chemicals? I'd pay $3/lb if it meant the chicken suffered less. But I'm sure I'm the exception. And those fucking hoarder trillionaires aren't gonna pry their cold dead hands off all that money to make meat cheaper for everyone any time soon.
Sad and insane world we live in.
>>711396589
Dude. Are you fucking legally retarded? You can read this shit anywhere online. The information is freely available and ground beef with added fillers is proven again and again to cause cancer and heart disease. And you're calling it a conspiracy?
Holy shit don't make meat eaters look like fucking retards. Become a vegetarian you'll fit in more.
>>711396589
unless you're a fat gluttonous fuck, never exercise, subsist on it entirely
So everyone on 4chan.
>>711396317
mosquitoes serve no purpose to this us whatsoever. The loss is the milk, eggs, and 3 of the most commonly eaten meats. I don't get if your defending veganism or against it so I cant really say much more
>>711396604
pictures prove nothing. THIS however http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/acs.jafc.6b03286
seems to say you get twice as much iron from crickets as beef. and if I may quote "And minerals including calcium, copper, iron and zinc from grasshoppers, crickets and mealworms are more readily available for absorption than the same minerals from beef"
basedscience.jpg
>>711397135
correction twice as much BIOAVAILABLE iron as beef.
>>711397085
Well apart of being food for my food.
frog legs with garlic are the shit
>>711397135
Pretty useless overall. Humans don't need that many minerals and large amounts are actually pretty bad for you, and can give you problems such as kidney stones, blood clots, strokes, and other blood related problems.
Humans did not evolve to eat fucking bugs. It's not healthy to only eat bugs. That's why only desperate 3rd world shithole slums eat bugs.
>>711395697
A) I am aware of how these animals have changed over time, and that they would not survive in nature. Neither would many breeds of dogs. Dogs are also a waste of resources, but they make excellent companions. So do pigs, cows, and chickens. Obviously, they wont be as popular as dogs, because they require more space, but some people will still keep them. I have a friend with a pet chicken, and another friend with a pet pig.
B) Most people aren't going vegan/vegetarian any time soon, so don't worry, they won't be going extinct any time soon.
C) The number of extinctions that occur as a result of animal agriculture is absolutely staggering. We are in the midst of the Holocene Mass Extinction Event, and animal agriculture is one of the major contributors.
D) We are not in an unbreakable give and take relationship with livestock. It is a very breakable relationship. I have broken it and so have many others.
>>711392867
> bugfood agenda
kek
You know that shrimp and lobsters are arthropods, right? Same as insects. The rich eat the shit out of lobster. The poor guzzle down popcorn shrimp at Golden Corral. mfw we been eating bugs this whole time.
>>711377777
I'm mad these quints were wasted on you. Check'd you lil shit.
>>711397591
Trust me, 99.9999% of the earth isn't going to subsist on shrimp and lobster when food becomes more expensive.
There is definitely a bugfood agenda being pushed currently. You'll notice eventually, but it'll probably be too late.
Enjoy your blood problems from eating too many fucking 3rd world crickets.
>>711397380
who said only? I'm not OP, I dont give a fuck if you eat meat.
my intentions here are just to make you think a little bit more about what you consider food.
go ahead, keep telling the anthropologist about human evolution.
>>711397135
So it's okay to eat insects but not animals? What kind of logic is that. If you're so against eating meat why even bring that up. I'll keep eating my beef, enjoy your leaves and crickets, faggot.
>>711397575
See, you're blaming the act of eating meat itself on the extreme overeating of meat most people do in this country. Humans evolved to eat about 2/5 meat and the rest 3/5 of plants. Most people eat like 9/10 of meat or more.
So instead of talking about the problem which is overconsumption, you want to end the entire act of eating meat. That's like banning driving completely (except for the rich of course. You can bet the rich will always eat meat) so that we don't cause global warming with cars. Instead of, say, finding alternative fuels. It's not the car itself, it's the fuel source. It's not the meat, it's the current wasteful methodology of attaining that mean.
>>711397591
in the past lobster was poorman food because there were shit ton of lobsters.
now it's richman food because the smaller population
>>711397135
so eating crickets is different eating beef how?
>>711398144
I'm still not OP.
>>711397575
You can't be serious. Now ones gonna keep a cow as a pet unless they want milk, no ones gonna keep a chicken as a pet without getting eggs from it, and people may keep pigs as pets but they are huge and eat a lot more than dogs. Dogs have been bread how they are for companionship. That is the purpose they serve and have served throughout time.
If the relationship between us and one of the animals we keep as livestock break they will go extinct
>>711398220
because our bodies can't digust exoskeleton
>>711387325
looks delicious to me.
>>711396059
>hunting meat is so much better.
I agree that hunting is more ethical than animal agriculture for just the reasons you stated, and I think its great that you care about the dignity of animals. However, if an animal is living a happy life out in the wild, why would you want to kill it? Wouldn't you rather just let it continue to live its happy life? Don't you think that the amount of happiness that the animal would experience from several additional years of life is greater than the happiness that you would experience from killing it and having its flesh on your tongue for a few moments?
>>711398337
why not?
>>711397809
Too late for what? I don't eat bugs, but I'm just saying western culture embraces eating one type of arthropod, so other types isn't that crazy. Enjoy your colon cancer.
>>711377777
>livestock animals are designed for food
>humans arent
nice b8
>>711397809
as opposed to your meat-based agenda?
why do I gotta have an agenda? cant it just be an opinion? or a thought?
>>711398803
who designed them to be food?
>>711396539
>we cant just stop killing them
Yes we can. Millions of people are vegetarian/vegan.
>>711398552
If a bug is living a happy life, why kill it?
Do you see how completely retarded that line of reasoning is?
I own dogs. They eat meat. So do I. I'm not gonna feed my dogs leaves and I'm not going to become vegan either. All the vegans I've met are completely sickly looking. I don't want to look 10 years older.
You need meat on a biological level. Nature is nature. If you stop hunting deer they overpopulate and become a very huge problem on the surrounding ecosystem. That's why you're allowed to kill a certain number year after year.
Or would you prefer that we allow our homes to be destroyed and our forests to be full of aggressive starving deer desperate for food?
Deer kill people too. A lot more than wolves or bears do. It's called nature. If you don't like it go live on the fucking moon or something.
>>711398208
I always thought that was pretty cool. The refrigerated shipping also drove up the price when selling them to inland populations. Eventually capitalism kicked in and boom, now I can't eat lobster.
>>711398909
yeah we should just start eating vegetarians/vegans.
>>711398813
Because I'm not spending billions pushing it.
The insect food agenda will become more popular in time. It is already there but not widespread yet. They know they can't get most of the civilized world to go for it. They have to wait until most of the world population is living in slums first.
>>711399056
where are the other carnivorous apes?
>>711399287
There are none. They are all omnivores to varying degrees. Some eat meat more than others. Some eat insects more than others.
>>711387066
get out undertale faggot
>>711399056
Oh shit everybody look out it's the deer!
>>711399245
>implying the meat industry isnt out there pushing there own agenda for the last 200 years or so.
you're a crazy prepper, huh?
>>711399137
this
they want to be cattle, let's treat them like cattle
>>711381952
>or are we doomed to communicate through crummy images?
>>711399245
they came for my guns first then they came for my meat! this is all obama's fault!!!
hows that wall workin out buddy? is america great again?
>>711399443
get out SU faggot
>>711381042
What about chickens and what about farting?
>>711399245
Who's behind this bugfood agenda? Is it the illuminati?
>>711399451
Just sigh.. Is everything a conspiracy theory to you? Or do you just not keep up on current events?
Pushed by the UN, pushed by major liberal news outlets, pushed by various colleges, pushed by major psychologists, pushed by major global think tanks.
>hurr durr its a conspiraceee
Fucking idiot. One day, you won't even have the option to eat meat anymore. It will be exclusively for the rich.
http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/environment/item/15420-un-let-them-eat-bugs
http://foodtank.com/news/2014/03/insects-on-a-global-food-agenda
http://www.fao.org/edible-insects/85305/en/
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/01/insects-the-secret-weapon-to-saving-food-waste/
http://supforums.com/thread/87085703/politics/insect-food-agenda.html
http://www.wageningenacademic.com/journals/jiff/related-information
https://books.google.com/books?id=fgFKCgAAQBAJ&pg=PA2&lpg=PA2&dq=insect+food+agenda&source=bl&ots=u3b-GFvEka&sig=5IwMiHal-EsOBvck_sYLUDQdlAU&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj6mvaYoqLQAhVi1oMKHd5nCQkQ6AEIXTAN#v=onepage&q=insect%20food%20agenda&f=false
>>711399652
>>711399824
they=the reptilians
>>711399640
Sadly enough, this is tomorrow's reality ridiculed by the useful idiots of today.
>>711399926
>Pushed by the UN, pushed by major liberal news outlets, pushed by various colleges, pushed by major psychologists, pushed by major global think tanks.
HAH! I called it!!!
>>711398321
>no ones gonna keep a chicken as a pet without getting eggs.
You're mostly right about this, and some people who consider themselves to be vegan actually do keep a pet chicken and eat the eggs. Eggs are basically just chicken menstruation so you don't need to actually harm the chicken to get some eggs. The qualms I have with the egg industry are with the disgusting conditions that the chickens are kept in. That, and the fact that I think it's kind of weird to eat chicken menstruations.
>No ones gonna keep a cow as a pet
yes they do. Indians fucking worship cows. They're not going to let them go extinct.
>They will go extinct
No they will not. Their numbers will drastically reduce, but they will not go entirely extinct. Besides, we will never have a world where literally everyone is vegan, so your point is moot anyway.
>>711382320
Yo just a word to meat eaters who are considering a vegetarian lifestyle -- this image is pretty good as a guide when you're starting out, but once you've been eating vegetarian for a week or two I would NOT recommend eating a tennis ball again.
>>711399484
>>711399137
meat is retard fuel.
>>711400111
>>711399640
Oh and guess what, pet ownership will one day only be for the rich "to protect the environment" or something. You better enjoy having a dog/cat/fish while you can.
>>711399926
>>711400020
holy shit he believes in reptilians too. you just broke my bat-shit-crazy-o-meter
