>more people voted for Hillary than Trump.
>Trump win.
I don't get it.
The Electoral College votes on the presidential candidate. The public votes are simply to give them an indication of which president is the most popular. Even now, the College still has to approve Trump as president; he may lose yet.
>>711332422
So Google how it works, dick fart
>>711332422
The two most populous states are the two furthest to the left. Popular vote means nothing
Individuals are not smart enough to know whose best to run a country, they are merely drones who are indoctrinated by the media.
>>711333765
Pretty sure the parties candidates are also not the best to run the country. Y'all need to hope they try harder in 4 years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oligarchy
More people wanted Bernie than both, USA is not a democracy tho
>>711333988
To explain this further:
They go off state points because it allows them to get a better understanding of the people all over America rather than just take into account an area that has more of the population if that makes sense.
People in different states and counties experience different things, if it went off amount of votes, why bother to help all of them? Only help the places with the majority of the population
I think Trump will be one of the worst things to ever happen to the white house, but the silly thing is that I still find solace in knowing Hillary didn't get what she wanted in spite of her smugness.
>>711332422
Here you go OP
>>711333988
If you weren't stupid, you would understand population density. The electoral college system gives higher weight to votes from less populated areas. This means that a person in rural Iowa has more voting power than a person in LA. How much more? They have about 180 times more effect per voter. Seems totally fair to me, especially when you consider gerrymandering having an outsided benefit for republicans as well, allowing them to easily gain many large counties.
>>711332422
here something for your simple mind to understand.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUS9mM8Xbbw&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wC42HgLA4k&feature=youtu.be
>>711332422
It's called democracy.
>>711334132
Lol so then you can court the vote in Iowa and Ohio instead of NYC and LA. Makes total sense, what a great argument
>>711332422
>more people voted for Hillary than Trump.
You are extremely naïve if you think that more people voted for Hillary than for Trump.
In general, Americans vote two ways. They vote in person on the day of the election or they vote absentee. Absentee means they vote by mail.
People who vote absentee are largely Republican. Those who voted absentee in the last election generally voted for Trump.
Not all ballots are counted. Absentee ballots are counted only if they will make a difference in the election outcome. In states where absentee ballots were not counted, votes for Trump were understated.
So while you say that Hillary got more votes than Trump, what you don't realize is that Hillary got more of the VOTES THAT WERE COUNTED and not more of the VOTES THAT WERE CAST.
>>711334717
You're fucking stupid.
>>711334846
You have no idea what you're talking about. You are clueless. You have your head up your ass.
Trump won the legal popular vote if you take away all the illegals who voted for Hillary. Although illegal to vote if not a citizen lets realize that they're already breaking the law and have means to vote since many illegals have Photo ID and some even have social security numbers. This is especially true in Cali and NY
>>711335375
sure kid
>>711334717
A two second Google search would have saved you from looking like a dumb ass
>>711335180
You didn't read his post you dumb shit.
>>711335180
Not all of the votes were counted on November 9, the date shown on your image. In your image, you show Hillary with more votes than Trump. But not all the votes were counted.
Try to understand (I know it will be hard for you), votes counted does not necessarily equal the number of votes cast.
As of yesterday, several states – Arizona was one – had not finished counting their votes.
If all of the states had not finished counting their votes by November 10, how can your totals from November 9 possibly be accurate?
>>711335375
>all the illegals who voted for Hillary
You got a source for that that isn't infowars?
You do know a few trump supporters were caught casting multiple votes right?
>>711332422
>>more people voted for Trump than Hillary.
>>Trump won.
get it?
>>711335714
>>711335808
This is purely assumption based. So why say you would know trump would win if all the votes were cast when you don't know who they voted for.
>>711335808
>>711333599
This makes no sense.
The purpose of choosing a president is to pick someone whose principles match closest the majority of the citizenry. If the majority of the citizenry is leftist or rightist, it makes no difference except to reflect who is chosen
>>711335870
nope
>>711335870
More people voted Hillary actually. The electoral college gave trump the win just like how it was with Al Gore vs Bush
>>711335978
>So why say you would know trump would win if all the votes were cast when you don't know who they voted for.
See >>711334717
>People who vote absentee are largely Republican. Those who voted absentee in the last election generally voted for Trump.
>>711332839
>he may lose yet.
yea no.
>>711336091
That once again is only an assumption. You won't know until all are counted
>>711332422
>I don't get it.
'Murica. Get it now?
Actually, when Trump was announced the winner, he was also leading in the Popular vote
>>711335870
In Trumpland, 48% < 47%
Its was only an hour or two after then Hillary began leading in the Popular vote
>>711336083
>More people voted Hillary actually. The electoral college gave trump the win just like how it was with Al Gore vs Bush
Bush beat Gore. Not all of the votes were counted. Only enough absentee votes were counted to determine the outcome of the election. Absentee votes that would have no effect on the outcome of the election were not counted.
>>711336040
Because America isn't a democracy, it's a republic, and states matter more than individuals so as to not have one state with x interest have priorty over another simply because of population.
>>711336125
Electoral votes are only pledges. So if enough of the electoral voters change on December 19th, it could change the election. It doesn't happen often but could. That's why they are called the president elects and not just the president
can these threads just die
he`s the fucking president
eat shit CTR
>>711336286
Bush won electoral and not the popular vote. It has nothing to do with the popular vote.
>>711332422
He won when his opponent conceded
>>711334193
I actually agree 100%. Wouldn't it be great if he actually did a good job, though? Think about how fucked up Hillary would be. It would really bring her smugness crashing down.
>>711333988
We have an electoral college because New Jersey always has and always will be a shit hole. PoliSci 101
So are you a nigger who didnt go to school? To retarded to remember?
>>711333988
In other words, imagine if you were in the minority, and the majority voted against you? That's basically what the picture says.
>>711336346
>it could change the election
And an asteroid could wipe out life on earth tomorrow.
Faithless electors changing the outcome of the election is extremely unlikely, although one faithless elector has in fact refused to vote for Hillary and will be casting his vote for Trump.
>>711332774
Fucking hell, how can someone dress and look like that and expect to be taken seriously? He literally looks like a post-op tranny.
>>711336481
>to retarded to remember
>to
>>711334193
t b h after reading his 100 day plan he seems a lot more moderate.
http://www.npr.org/2016/11/09/501451368/here-is-what-donald-trump-wants-to-do-in-his-first-100-days
kind of like what happened with Obama, who ended up being a lot more moderate than what his first campaign suggested.
>>711336424
Bush won both the electoral and the popular vote when all ballots were counted.
>>711336390
Nope.
Obama is the President.
Trump is the President Elect.
Of course, Trump will never be President. The democrats and republicans are already moving to impeach him. The next President is Pence.
>>711336286
Bush got 50,456,062 votes
Gore got 50,996,582 votes
or is 15 years not long enough to count ballots?
>>711336286
>Bush beat Gore
Actual numbers dispute your unsubstantiated claim
>>711336650
Obama was blocked on everything he tried to do.
>>711336765
like Obamacare?
>>711334554
This nigga know hes shit. I second this nigga
The loser bitches about this literally every single election year. Just shut the fuck up and deal with it, your opinions mean nothing in the eyes of the government
>>711334698
So your counter argument is to ignore people who live outside major population centres?
>>711336689
except for the fact that he didn't.
see >>711336702
>>711336346
If you do that, it would literally create a justified civil war
There are also laws in place that stop that from happening in certain states.
Trump won fair and square, nothing will change that
>>711336820
The ACA was a massive compromise. It was gutted by the republicans. And, they still opposed it after they'd amended it out of all recognition.
>>711336748
>>711336702
Now you are catching on. The absentee ballots were never counted.
In 2000, when Al Gore “won” the popular vote nationally by 500,000 votes and the liberal media screamed bloody murder, there were 2 million absentee ballots in CA alone. A 67-33 breakout of those yields a 1.33-.667 mil Republican vote advantage, so Bush would have gotten a 667,000-vote margin from CA’s uncounted absentee ballots alone! So much for Gore’s 500,000 popular vote “victory.”
>>711336965
but it wasn't blocked is what matters.
this lel
>>711336765
Basketball is a tough sport for average height men.
>>711336946
this
sure, the electoral college COULD change the outcome of the election, but the consequences would be protests, riots, violence, and a huge decrease in the trust in the american political system.
trump will be the 45th president of the USA whether you like it or not.
>>711336290
first reasonable response in thread
>>711336765
>Obama was blocked on everything he tried to do.
Poor, poor Obama. Blocked at every turn.
Of course he was able to pass Obamacare and the terrible agreement with Iran, but you are right he was blocked at every turn.Oh, and don't forget all the Muslims he imported. He was blocked at that also.
>>711333510
Seriously tho. If this isn't an underage b& I don't know what is.
>>711336946
>won fair and square
>less votes
>>711337047
It was blocked.
What was finally delivered wasn't what was promised. The US got Romneycare on a national level.
Electoral College knew Hillary was a corrupt scumbag
>>711337065
I'm not a yank but it seems the anti-Trump crowd are far more vitriolic than any other group preceding. They are actually opposing democracy with action.
>>711333510
>dick fart
You argue like a 12-year-old. Maybe you could get a teacher or your parents to help you to think logically?
>>711337180
obamacare was only passed after making countless concessions to the plan for the republicunts
>>711337193
>>711336091
>People who vote absentee are largely Republican. Those who voted absentee in the last election generally voted for Trump.
That doesn't make any sense and you have no proof that is true.
Tired of the bullshit?
www.politicaloutsource.com
You're welcome.
>>711337305
We're not a democracy, we are democratic republic
Learn american history, this is not the first time a president has won who lost the popular (2000)
So, yes, it is fair and square
>>711337180
>Of course he was able to pass Obamacare
Able?
You have a very short memory. That was a gutter brawl.
>, and don't forget all the Muslims he imported
Ah, I'm dealing with a retred...
>>711335835
The Veritas Project videos made it pretty clear that all those republicans saying the dems were driving bus loads of people around to vote in districts they don't live in were right along, even though we all thought they were conspiracy nuts. If they are willing to do this for the primaries, you better believe they are doing it for the elections too.
>>711337368
>countless concessions to the plan for the republicunts
Obamacare passed without a single Republican vote.
You are so full of shit even the whites of your eyes are brown.
>>711332422
This nigga wants to apologize: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNbF9PI9Gjo
>>711332774
Shame the homeless black lady defending it wasn't there, I guess she left after the fat liberal Mexicans attacked her.
>>711337305
well according to the american system for electing presidents, he did.
is it messed up that someone who lost the popular vote can still be elected? maybe. but that is the way our system works, and you can't call it unfair. it has happened before and will most likely happen again.
>>711337440
>it happened before, therefore it's fair.
>>711336290
"America isn't a democracy, it's a republic"
What does it even mean?? What do they tech you in schools in america? You are a democratic republic with a specific voting system
>>711336527
a majority is greater than 50% of the population, which neither of the candidates have. Clinton has a plurality, and the electoral college is there to keep inner cities from dictating my lifestyle in suburban and rural areas.
And I don't know the exact numbers offhand for entitlements like welfare and foodstamps, but I am POSITIVE inner cities benefit more from federal tax dollars. If you live in an inner city, and they take your tax dollars to fix your problems there, that's fine. What is not fine is taking my tax dollars to fix problems in your city when it could go to improving my area.
>>711337499
I guess you have a short memory.
Republicans were included in the drafting and the amending of the ACA.
>>711332422
of course you dont
>>711336274
>not understanding the electoral college this hard
>>711337368
I'm gonna love all of those tasty Trumpkin tears when they're all thrown off their Obamacare health insurance plans. Repeal & Replace (with nothing).
>kek
>>711336290
>Because America isn't a democracy
The US is a representative democracy.
You sully cunt.
>>711332422
Silly boi, Romney got more votes that Obama in 2012
>>711337546
therefore its how the republic works. learn to think, cupcake.
>>711332422
Name 3 things Shillary has done for the betterment of the United States that actually came to pass with out Google go on I'll wait
>>711334554
If they didn't do it this way then California and New York would always decide who prez is
>>711336691
Do you think this scenario is possible?
>>711332422
>I don't get it.
Education level of some Hillary supporters is absurd.
>>711337821
absurdly trumps your education level
>>711337731
No he didn't.
>>711337546
the popular vote doesn't mean shit.
the electoral vote is all that matters.
It was originally put into the constitution because the founding fathers didn't think that the common man was educated enough to vote. Now it serves to ensure that each state is represented fairly and that california doesn't control the election.
>>711332422
Democracy is broken
Republicans haven't been able to win the popular vote for more than 20 years but now, SOMEHOW (gerrymandeing, suppressing votes and hijacking the entire Judicial Branch illegally), Republicans control every single aspect of government.
There are no checks and balances, no division of the branches of government and no democratic representation. The Electoral College must DIE.
Check out the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact for how people plan to get rid of the EC.
>>711337731
where are you getting that from?
all the numbers i'm seeing show ~66M for obama and ~61M for romney.
>>711337368
That's an outright lie. Republicans had absolutely nothing at all to do with it. It passed without a single republican vote. Obama told republicans to take a back seat, and stay out of his way.
Stay mad faggot...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNbF9PI9Gjo
>>711334554
Large cities are wholly dependent on the surrounding regions. People who live in high population areas, secluded from the rest of the country, are in no position to make decisions for the rest of the country.
You don't just want a majority opinion. You also want a diverse opinion. You want people from as many different walks of life as possible voting for policy. That's the only way you're going to get a balanced policy that's good for everyone, not just the majority voters.
That's why we have an electoral college. Is it perfect? No. The winner takes all model as it applies to states is kind of shitty. But did the right person win this election, based on the voter breakdown? Absolutely.
>>711337305
I didn't go out and vote because Trump already had my state in the bag. If more people like me voted, he could have had and probably would have the popular vote. Additionally, Clinton's lead over Trump in the popular vote is negligible. It really IS too close to call. There are millions of people that did not vote in their respective states because they knew their states wouldn't have close counts. And that's a lot more people than she led him by in the popular.
Fun fact: If not for the electoral college, NEITHER of the major candidates would have the majority, and trump would become president anyway after the congress votes for president.
>>711337806
Trump faces charges of fraud on November 28th, he will be found guilty. Under the US law a President, or President Elect, can be impeached if they have been guilty of criminal activity.
Trump will not be President.
>>711337549
a republic is a system of democracy in which elected officials are put into power to represent the people of a country/state/town/whatever.
true democracy (as it was used by the ancient greeks) involved a vote on every single issue by the people, which no one has time for and causes slow reaction to important issues.
>>711332422
Well you see in the areas where people don't have mandatory anal implants there is this thing called voter fraud. Lots of people 80 to 120 years old voting there as well. Since we vote on a state level the actual people got to vote instead of a bunch of butt zombies.
Trump has already accomplished some good, On good terms with Putin and will most likely eliminate sanctions and demonizing if Russia, On good terms with Filipino president Duerte who absolutely hated obummer.
>>711336346
They are called president elect because they have been elected but are not yet president. Obama is the the President.
>>711338055
Hillary won the popular vote, WTF are you talking about? In a multiple candidate run-off, you don't need more than 50%, you just need the most votes.
>>711338123
>true democracy (as it was used by the ancient greeks) i
The US is a representative democracy and a constitutional republic; they are not mutually exclusive.
You silly cunt.
>>711338123
Tbh, our current setup of a Republic is a bit too slow for my liking.
>>711338206
Actually you DO need more than 50% of the votes to become POTUS. In case none of the candidates manages that, the house of representatives chooses the president.
>>711332422
Yes. And obama had 8 years to change that and didn't
>>711338071
Even if that were to happen you realize that Pence would become president?
>mfw faggots don't understand that America isn't under a Democracy
America is a Constitutional Republic you fucking idiots. Read up on some history of our country's government, and it's establishment. This isn't anything new. "...to the Republic, for which it stands".
I'll just leave this here:
http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/what-happens-if-pennsylvania-heads-for-a-recount/
The count is so close this is a possible outcome for this state.
>>711338297
it beats voting for every single budget, military action, and treaty.
>>711332422
It's ok, to graduate high school you will have to take American Government. They will explain it then.
>>711338071
Pence would be president, lol you would really be fucking yourselves.
>>711334052
This. The fact that you couldn't even write in bernie in some states proves that this is not a true democracy
>>711338071
Not actually true. Under the law they can be impeached if and only if they are guilty of criminal activity WHILE IN OFFICE. It's the same reason Shill-dawg's email shit or the Foundation corruption or any of the other shady shit wouldn't have tossed her salad into jail until after she was done being presserdint.
>>711332422
He won more states
retart
>>711338206
She didn't win anything yet. Votes are still being counted.
>>711334554
this.
>>711338054
This goes both ways and that's why the electoral college is shit. People in California don't feel a need to vote since they're always "blue". Same thing for red states. So we discourage voting where as if we knew it was the popular vote, I guarantee many more people would get out there and vote.
>>711338071
And deleting emails requested by the FBI isn't a felony?
>>711337546
>they're the rules they understood going into the election, therefore it's fair
>>711338329
Yes, I'm aware Pence will be the next President.
Pence is in the pocket of the republicans, Trump is an unknown quantity, he's a liability. The republicans want shot of Trump, so do the democrats. They'll unite to oust him.
>>711338283
republic (rəˈpəblik): a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president rather than a monarch.
>>711336863
wrong. they bitch about it when the electoral vote doesn't comport with the popular vote.
>>711338054
right but you could say the same for the states that she won, couldnt you?
>>711338459
This 100%
>>711336617
>implying you dont fap to trap threads faggot
>>711333988
OIC, so our system is set up to give a really distinct advantage to being an ignorant hillfuck living off in the backwoods of nowhere. What a wonderful way to run the most powerful nation on Earth and now it's given us P T Barnum/Adolf Hitler to lead us through the next 4 years of world crisis
I think in coming years the world will use 'Republican' as the worst epithet possible. Mothers will tell their children to be quiet at night or the Republicans will get then
>>711332422
Hey OP, I think I can help.
So the basics are that when they say the "popular vote", what they are actually referring to is something called the NPV, or National Popular Vote, which means exactly how it sounds.
However this is not the system we use, and looking a little deeper, it is a good thing we don't.
We can look at this by running a hypothetical scenario. Let's take a few cities and pick them out: L.A., New York City, Chicago are the biggest, but let's also add Austin, Boston, Philadelphia, Baltimore, Washington D.C., Portland, and Seattle.
The total population of these states as of the best I can find is around 34,000,000, and that is probably much greater since this is mostly Urban and MSA population numbers, and not CSA, but it is a good rough number to use. Now let's say that there was an 70% Democratic turn out based off that population. That would be (using this example) 27.2 million votes cast for the Democratic candidate. To put that in perspective, that would mean that 100% of the population of Alaska, Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, Utah, Arizona, North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska, Kansas, Iowa, and West Virginia would have to turn out just to compensate for the victories in those 10 cities, and that's not including the Greater Metropolitan area's of New York, L.A. D.C and Baltimore, Philly.
I could go on, but essentially this is the function of the electoral college. It's so all States do have a voice. The popular vote still matters, but it matters at a State level as far as voting for electors to pledge their votes for their candidate. If you were too look at Texas, New York, Florida, and California, the four states with the most electoral votes (151 total), if a candidate won all four, they would still be 120 short of winning the election, so it forces candidates to campaign for and focus on all the states (to some degree), instead of just targeting high pop. area's alone to get elected.
>>711332422
If you aren't smart enough to google it you might be part of the problem
>>711332422
Michigan and Arizona STILL haven't reported despite counting all the voted. Once they report, it will be seen Trump also has the popular vote. Source includes, but is not limited to, NY Times. Look it up yourself if you don't believe me.
>>711338459
If Trump is convicted while he is President Elect, he can (and will), be impeached.
>. It's the same reason Shill-dawg's email
Nope. Hillary wasn't found guilty of criminal activity.
>>711338414
But then people scream that the politicians are fucking us. Let's leave it up to them but bitch when they make all the decisions. Doesn't make sense.
>>711338414
oh, definitely. I just mean that things generally require too many majorities and supermajorites versus pluralities, which you can apparent win the presidency with, but not overturn an executive order or pass a law with. Additionally, if presidents have term limits after FDR, then so should senators, and justices should not be appointed for life.
>>711332422
America, where all votes are equal, but some votes are more equal than others.
>>711338508
Not if they've already been deleted.
>>711338350
.... Will also leave this here:
https://www.change.org/p/electoral-college-electors-electoral-college-make-hillary-clinton-president-on-december-19?recruiter=132361305&utm_campaign=signature_receipt&utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=share_petition
Let's change the outcome there's still time. With the popular vote and possible recounts. That orange lunatic can still be ousted from the White House.
>>711332422
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mwuqXb8OPo
>>711332422
You should've completed 6th grade then shillary cock sucker
>>711336346
>It doesn't happen often
Try ever. It has literally never happened.
>>711337440
first sentence = true
second sentence = how is it fair and square? democrats lost that one too. electoral college favors rural areas & republicans. and it's happened 4 times since they created the EC back when there were very few urban areas.
>>711336626
Love It!
>>711338728
>Being this new.
>Not understanding how law works.
Your wet dreams do not constitute law, hate to break it to ya. You cannot be impeached for anything occurring while not in office.
>>711338071
That's a civil suit not a criminal one you fucking retard.
>>711338709
>look it up yourself
You must be new here...
>>711338556
right. i mean people would still be bitching, but theyd probably bitch less if he won the popular vote too.
its just frustrating, especially because both times this has happened in the last 20 years, it has favored the republican candidate.
>>711338549
Yes, I'm aware of the definition of "republic".
Now, do yourself a favor and Google: "Representative Democracy".
>>711338503
I think there are far more guaranteed red states than blue ones though. This might be offset by the large population of blue states, but I really doubt it.
>>711338658
>implying cityfags living in their liberal echo chambers aren't the ignorant ones.
urban liberal elitists should be purged.
>>711338709
The military vote is still outstanding too.
>>711338906
ok, but we live in one and not the other. civics 101
>>711338728
>Nope. Hillary wasn't found guilty of criminal activity.
she destroyed evidence after it was subpoenaed, which is a federal offense. she hasn't been on trial for this.
>>711336346
You're more desperate than third party voters.
Over 99% honored their states decision in history
Only case that didn't was gore vs bush where ONE person decided to not cast a vote
>>711338869
Fraud is a criminal offense. And, a serious one too.
>>711338503
either way, this makes popular still wayyy too close to call. People fucking acting like it was 80-20 Hillary when it was like 47.5 to 47.4
>>711337569
so it's better to have the suburban and rural areas dictate urban lifestyle?
>And I don't know the exact numbers
the rest of your argument is invalid.
>>711338927
It'd be easier than hunting. The fat slow SJWs are bigger targets and slower than deer.
>>711338788
Cause yeah, I'm sure she deleted them before the investigation...
>>711337731
wrong.
>>711338866
>wet dreams
I'm just stating the facts. A criminal conviction while holding the title of President is sufficient grounds for impeachment.
>>711338927
because thinking people should be treated equal whether your a woman, minority or gay is clearly ignorant, right?
>>711333988
>countis
kek
>>711339002
Trump University is what you're talking about right?
Look it up. It's a civil suit not a criminal one.
I will say it again. YOU FUCKING RETARD.
>>711337138
>protests, riots, violence, and a huge decrease in the trust in the american political system.
We already have all of those things...
>>711338970
>ok, but we live in one and not the other. civics 101
Are you claiming the US isn't a representative democracy?
HAhahahahahahahahaha
>>711338021
To add to this, saying the majority should make the rules in all cases is folly. If you believe that, then you'd have to allow a majority ethnicity to enslave another. After all, they're in the majority, aren't they?
Our politics should be based in diversity of thought, not just numbers.
>>711338976
Hillary is going to hang unless Obama pardons her or trump decides it's not worth the paper work.
>>711339032
This. It was also well within the margin of error considering almost half the country's opinions weren't considered
>>711337731
HAHAAHAHAHAHA
No way.
Obama won in a landslide you dumb ass.
>>711338190
The fuck do we care about how the phillipines feels about us? They literally cant and dont do shit to help us in any way, we fucking feed them money like it's our sole purpose. The entirety of the phillipines is a poverty stricken cess pool who couldnt fight an enemy if they had to. Fuck them the little cunts
>>711339085
It will never happen. That's why he chose Pence as the VP. He knew people would try this bullshit. You guys are getting Mike "If you like cock you get a shock" Pence if you impeach Trump.
He's literally 10x worse than Trump. You will be fucking yourselves over.
>>711339043
If that could be proved Clinton would have faced prosecution.
>>711339038
No, because unlike the left, we don't pass laws to dictate people's lifestyles in general. Democrats and Liberals are generally the ones that like passing new regulation on business, and in general, people's lives. Republicans either repeal stupid shit that has already been passed, or try to tone it down through amendments.
>>711337921
not giving equal weight to each citizen is fair?
>ensuring that each state is represented fairly.
it helps states with smaller populations. that's it.
>>711337971
It was literally written by Republicans in the 90's, and they demanded several alterations as well before it could go through. Then they called it Obamacare so they could win points against the President when all their stupid alterations pissed people off.
Quit spouting bullshit you fucking faggot.
>>711339103
No, it's an accusation of fraud. Fraud is a criminal offense.
>>711339085
Check dat Constitution dingus.
Treason, Bribery, Other High Crimes and Misdemeanors (against the state).
>Part in parenthesis was later removed as it was assumed to be a given.
Lrn2History.
>>711332422
Thats democracy for your ass
Enjoy your freedom
be libnig
lose election
1. riot
2. cry because no understand electoral process
3. still be libnig
I thought they taught the electoral college in social studies.
Guess people didn't pay attention.
>>711338312
That's under our current EC system, popular vote has nothing to do with it.
You are ignoring the EC and then assuming we still elect a President according to their rules, which is fucking stupid.
>>711339219
Hey, who's the next president?
Who's laughing now cunt?
>>711339376
"I know absolutely nothing about law, but I think my opinion matters, and I think I'm way more intelligent than I actually am"
Is what you meant to say.
>>711339346
>maximum damage control
Once again, more lies. Republicans are AGAINST any form of socialized healthcare or insurance.
Nice try though faggot.
>>711332422
>Popular vote determines election
>300k (a tenth of a percent of use population) should determine the election
>electoral college is unfair when it works against what I want
>>711339268
>You guys are getting Mike "If you like cock you get a shock" Pence if you impeach Trump.
It's out of our hands. The republican party don't want Trump. He's uncontrolable. Pence is a a party player.
The democrats and republicans will get rid of Trump.
>>711339288
wrong. look up gerrymandering.
>Democrats and Liberals are generally the ones that like passing new regulation on business, and in general, people's lives. Republicans either repeal stupid shit that has already been passed, or try to tone it down through amendments.
oh good. let's never change or evolve. let's keep things just like the good ol' days!
>>711338489
She won the popular vote, that will not change.
It doesn't even matter, so don't bother getting upset about it.
>>711339376
Fraud is both, and it depends on who is bringing the case. Criminal if the state is bringing the case, civil if a Plaintiff is bringing a case (like in the case of Trump University)
>Lrn2Law
>>711339420
>riot
More like giant temper tantrum
>>711339142
true, but I'm talking about a level which would threaten the american system of government. right now the protests are pretty standard demonstrations. right now we're not seeing gunfights, car burnings, murders, etc.
>>711339474
>Hey, who's the next president?
Barely..... he squeaked by, because he's not popular at all. Racist white's elected him.
Hart-Cellar people are not Americans
CTR here's some ointment for that sore anus
>>711339518
The votes haven't all been counted yet dumbass
>>711339085
he does not hold the title of president. Right now, he is President-Elect
>>711337953
Oh please. The 2016 election was rigged so that Hillary would win yet despite that she managed to fuck it up and lose anyway. There were multiple reports of voting machines changing votes, voter intimidation, postal vote manipulation etc. And the only reason more hasn’t been made of this is because Trump went on to win anyway. Would love to have seen how big his winning margin would have been had there been no vote rigging….
>>711339462
Even in countries where president is elected directly, you still need a majority instead of plurality to become the president. Generally this means a second round of election when no one candidate wins the majority.
>>711339346
Grueber wrote it.
>>711333988
I have more questions now than before i saw this
>>711339578
>he's not popular at all
And he still won. Stop believing everything cnn says.
MAGA down your throat for 8 years
>>711339499
Yep you make yourself look really stupid.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/donald-trump-impeached-could-he-be-can-us-president-election-stop-a7410756.html
>>711339389
> Other High Crimes
Fraud is a serious crime
> and Misdemeanors (against the state).
Trump hasn't been accused of "misdomeaners against the state". Trump faces a criminal case against him.
>>711338794
Ah, the link to pipe dreams and fantasy...
The bottom line is that Trump won on a technicality. He's not MY President, and he never will be. Ever. The only thing I can do now is pray that he doesn't fuck things over too badly (though I know he will) and that we can get rid of him in 2020.
>>711339556
How would street murders threaten the american system of government?
Also, if liberals werent all bark no bite, they would be threatening the system of government right now. They mad
>>711339536
The news barely even covers these protests anymore, a bunch of jobless uneducated peasants who don't even know what they are protesting but just want an excuse to have another street party.
>>711339640
Jonathan Gruber is a rebpublican
>>711339611
>vote rigging
>multiple reports
cite sources.
>>711337440
You mean Constitutional Republic
>>711339500
Check out politifact you fucking idiot.
>If there’s one thing conservatives might hate more than Obamacare, it’s hearing that Obamacare springs from Republican ideas. The Heritage Foundation, the granddaddy of the right-wing think tanks, fumed when President Barack Obama said it was the source of the concept of the health insurance marketplaces where people could shop for the best deal. (We rated Obama's claim Mostly True.)
>>711339499
Do you know how serious fraud is taken?
It's also a criminal offense, not a civil offense.
>>711336040
Considering it's purpose is to priest state soverty, it does make sense. Just because New York is happy with a cuck lifestyle does not mean America is.
Educate yourself on how elections in the us work
>70% of american citizens who can vote did not vote trump
>this means only 30% of american citizens who could vote wanted trump to be president
hehe xd
>>711339693
That professor is a literal retard.
Stay mad you're an ignorant fool
Retard.
Everything I have said is correct. What you are claiming is blatantly false.
That's the whole "I think I'm way more intelligent than I actually am" part playing out.
>>711332422
>Electoral College
I don't get it
>>711332422
Those 400k were dead, illegal and switched votes anyways. So trump still won the popular vote.
>>711339268
I'm not sure you folks understand what "impeach" means. It's a process. Not a result. Clinton was impeached. He remained President.
>>711339523
If Trump is convicted of fraud, it is a criminal matter, not a civil matter.
>>711339737
And get out of their gender studies finals because of "emotional trauma". I wish these cunts were capable of keeping their promises to leave America.
>>711339806
>politifact
oh my....
>>711339578
listen, i wasnt a trump supporter, but dismissing almost half the country as racists is ridiculous.
there is obviously something else at play here than "i hate blacks and mexicans and muslims".
not saying there arent racists out there who voted for him, but how can we make any progress when we lump them all together?
To those of you hoping for Trump to be impeached: Who's going to do the impeaching? The Republican controlled Congress? Impeaching their own boy?
Good fucking luck with that.
>>711339578
Lose election because racism not because other candidate what an unqualified criminal, cry into pillow more
>>711339863
>moron thinks he's smarter than a law professor
Sure buddy keep smoking your crackpipe and drinking moonshine.
>>711339605
Impeachment proceedings can begin against a President Elect.
>>711339723
>He's not MY President, and he never will be. Ever.
Then you can get the fuck out of the country.
We don't want you here, and you obviously don't want to be here. Just go.
>>711339611
This.
>>711337354
Correct.
Also a daily reminder that Republicans and "deplorable's" didn't go out and riot because Obama was elected.
>>711339578
Thats why he won the Hispanic vote, female vote and even the black vote. If shillary would have spent more time on her campaign instead of bashing trump she could very possibly even potus but she felt entitled and didn't think she had to work for it, while trump dumped his own money into his campaign at a loss if he wouldn't have been elected.
>>711339656
TLDR:
Population in urban centers tend to result in an echochamber and a homogenization of opinion.
Ask a person in NYC how to reduce the overhead and regulation for an Iowan farmer and you're likely to get a dumbfounded look on their face.
The point (at least now) is to preserve diversity of opinion and to ensure that everyone is represented in the government, not just the population dense areas, which would have no clue and/or wouldn't care about improving life for those in rural areas.
>Put simply, if only NY and CA and FL determined the election.
>>711336527
No, what this pic is trying to say is the same argument anti-eu peeps have been saying about remaining in the eu, you don't want people from a big county voting for their interests meanwhile you on the other side of the country might be fucked for it without being able tot do anything about it.
Bigger counties have more representatives so it 's not completely unfair. But it's probably more fair than a straight up popularity contest. Both are flawed though, but i can't think of a better way.
>>711339780
George Soros voting machines are the biggest factor shill.
Look up the correlation between hillary votes and paper trails. Hint: it's a strong negative one.
Gays should be killed. Fucking degenerates.
>>711339723
That isn't how this works, he IS your president and saying you want to quit just because your little woman lost makes you an absolute cuck. Go move somewhere else.
>>711337953
>implying congress will be able to do anything with such a close seat count and so many moderates. Also ENTIRE judicial branch? I thought it was 4-4 conservatives liberals, 5-4 after an appointment (which by the way shouldnt be for life). Not exactly the ENTIRE judicial branch.
Hillary is done though right?
She cannot come back and run again can she?
>>711339963
I'm completely sober actually. You don't understand that this is a civil suit against Trump, and not a criminal one. You're either intentionally being obtuse, and trying to troll, or you're a literal retard.
You don't understand basic law, and you use a logical fallacy of appealing to authority because you lack the actual understanding to make a real argument.
Get fucked.
>>711339706
No he doesn't fuckwad. It's a civil charge. Lrn2Law, dipshit. Civil case is one brought by an individual. Criminal cases ARE ONLY BROUGHT BY THE STATE.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=civil+vs+criminal+fraud
>Only a dem can be this stupid...
>>711338658
Kill yourself, libtard cuck.
>>711339737
Untrue.
They are just the same people who blame the media for covering not covering BLM stuff unbiased, yet when Trump gets unbiased PR they are it up from the same news sources and think it's the end of days and Hitler is back.
>>711339611
>voting machines changing votes
LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE ELECTION
It's not rigged if the fucking machine TELLS you that you didn't vote for who you thought. That's called an error, and it is almost always the fault of some retard who can't deselect things on a touch screen, and it happens to both sides.
>voter intimidation
Trump supporters loitered at polling stations armed with guns and wearing bullet proof vests, REPUBLICANS are the ones guilty of this.
>postal vote manipulation
As a Democrat, I never even got my ballot in the mail despite being told it was on the way. This happens to both sides, the mail system is not perfect.
Republicans BRAGGED about suppressing more votes than Trump won by in key states. They have broken our government and you're too goddamned partisan to even call them on it.
>>711339911
The age of smashing these weak useless fucks is upon us. Watch their filth culture burn.
>>711340009
how about the homogenization of the middle of the country?
how about the inverse? people in rural areas wouldn't have a clue and/or wouldn't care about improving life for those in urban areas.
>>711339164
Obama can't pardon what hasn't been prosecuted retard.
>>711340114
She can, but I doubt she can win primaries after losing to Trump.
>>711340129
No, Trump will face criminal proceedings if he is found guilty.
This is elementry law.
>>711332422
Hur dur I don't get it. This has been explained many times. Electoral college and delegates, now go read about how America elects presidents, then u will get it
>>711340114
You underestimate her. She'd run for president even as a felon.
People people, I think we can all agree here that the American electoral is a joke
Let us Great Britons show you how to have a proper election
Please, come back America. We know you have daddy issues and have hurt us in the past but we're forgiving
>>711339578
No, simply untrue. Im a fucking democrat and know that he didnt get elected because of solelg racist whites. He won the vote of a very diverse group of voters. White women and men, obviously, but black men, and hispanics voted for him too. Black women were the only group who resoundingly voted for clinton. People either voted for trump who they weren't expecting to or they simply didnt vote, which was essentially a vote for the donald.
People were tired of being told they were pieces of shit for not believing the liberal agenda. And the liberal agenda was wrong for trying to autonomize the nation. You get falsely called a homophobe or racist by a certain group long enough, guess what, those people being called that will find a way to fuck you over. The dems need to stop throwing this nationwide temper tantrum over a fair trump win and stop and ask, ok, what can we do to work with you. Because trump is yours and my president elect. Like it or not. And either you figure out a way to work with him and lessen the inevitable damage, or you piss him off and he goes for the very ideals you so prpudly support and cripples you.
We all know he isnt bringing back jobs because there are no jobs to bring back. Its no longer outsourcing, its the problem that factory jobs were made to be ran by robotics. Robots dont need a salary, they dont need healthcare. They need a small team of programmers and repair men. Thats it.
He's not getting big Washington out of washington. He is actually giving them a promotion into his cabinent.
He's not going to work for the people, and his voters are going to realize that soon enough. Im just gonna sit back and say I told you so.
>>711334698
No you fucking idiot. So an entire city doesn't have the chance to focus on a SINGLE candidate and outweigh the people in places like Montana (where the population per square mile is less).
The only reason Hillary had more popular votes was because of cities.
>>711339981
no this>>711340145
>>711340215
That's why more populous states have more electorates.
>>711332422
>trump won't win with the popular vote trumptards. Lol
>b-but Hillary got the popular vote, she should've won!
Liberals
>>711332774
I'm sure that'll teach Trump! Totally gnarly mayn
>>711340009
this makes sense, but it works both ways.
what does an iowan farmer know about how to reduce inner-city crime?
or how to save costs on public transportation?
we are a diverse people with diverse interests, yet all three branches of government are about to be controlled by one party...
>>711340047
you do know that there are multiple checks to ensure that votes are accurate?
we don't just leave all of the tallies up to machines.
>>711340215
It's a problem, but a lot less than than in cities due to the density. This is why you ensure both are represented by having a state-by-state race.
I'd argue it'd be better district by district, and it would increase turnout, but then you get involved in gerrymandering bullshit.
>>711340303
yes; however the total number of electorates is capped. 270 putting you in the white house doesn't change.
>>711338649
Of course I don't, I'm not a deluded meme master. Fucking faggots.
To everyone throwing a fit about this, we will never know what the real popular vote would be. Think of all the people who never bother voting because they're democrat in Texas or republican in Cali. Liberals are only complaining about this system because it didn't work out in their favor this time.
>>711340203
I'm so glad most people saw past the bullshit lies and rumors orchestrated by the DNC and their pets, the sjws
Here's the election map. Hillary supporters weren't winning shit and I find it comical they were so hopeful about it. Now they are a bunch of spoiled little crybabies.
>>711336029
Wll he jus proved it
>>711340293
Exactly. The electoral college is based in part on something the left claims to fight for: DIVERSITY. Farms and small towns matter just as much as big cities and suburbs do to the health of this nation. Those people should have a voice, even if there aren't as many of them.
If we lived in a pure democracy, people outside of big cities may as well not vote at all. Their votes would be overruled by the big cities who DEPEND on them.
>>711339756
Gruber is a libral college professor.
>>711340128
Ah should've figured that you're illiterate and have an IQ of 12. I actually feel sorry for you, life must be rough living with your mental disability.
>>711340420
bingo
>>711340324
The Supreme Court literally stopped that process to declare George Bush President. People bitching about election fraud are too young to remember what it actually looks like.
>>711339935
Liberal arrogance cast more votes for Trump than anything his own people did for him. You arrogantly thinking your side is enlightened, that white culture is inherently evil and should be destroyed. Push hard enough, long enough and even the fence sitters will take a stand, and they did. Every riot, every cop car getting flipped, was another vote for Trump. We are sick of your liberal arrogance, you are not enlightened.
>>711340425
>I'm so glad most people saw past the bullshit lies
Most people voted democrat.
>>711339611
Tru
>>711332422
Californians whine that they're under-represented in the electoral college and in the same breath they are intentionally lax in their enforcement of laws pertaining to illegal immigrants and especially who can vote. There's a reason the word 'sanctuary cities' has formed.
So yes, if you allow non-citizens to cast votes then yes the nearly 3 million illegals in California will certainly vote to cement the power of the party that lets them keep accessing benefits from taxpayers without paying anything themselves.
Big surprise.
The electoral college exists to avoid centralizing all the power in one state deciding policy for the entire nation.
If you don't see why funneling millions of invalid extra votes to cement your party in power at this point then refer to this
>>711334219
>>711339693
>We have evidence Trump is a criminal
>Let's not use it to stop his campaign
>Oh shit he is president
>Let's use it after all!
Sounds legit
>>711340244
Ifs, buts, and puppy dog nuts don't make good arguments you mong.
He's not going to be found guilty. He had a bunch of business seminars he called Trump University, and a bunch of mouth breathers thought it was a legit University like Harvard, or Yale. It's not his fault they are stupid.
>>711339976
Fuck you. I voted for the Candidate who won the popular vote, and my vote was pissed on by a bullshit government process. I didn't vote for him, "We the people" didn't vote for him, he's President anyway.
I love my country deeply, the government...not so much.
I'll endure this dipshit the same way I endured eight years of the last UNELECTED Republican dipshit.
BTW, I'd like to point out that if it weren't for this Electoral College BS, we wouldn't have had a Republican President since 1992. How's that for representing the will of the citizens, huh?
The country is Democratic, the system is Republican, and the Republicans are now in full control of the White House, the Congress, and soon the Supreme Court. If that shit doesn't scare the Hell out of you, I don't know what would.
>>711332422
>I don't get it.
You and 10 million other uneducated college-age pussies that think you didn't need to vote.
>kids don't vote
>kids throw epic tantrums
>make up stories
>spread lies
>fan the flame of drama
>I watch all the drama
>Tell my wife "Damn, they're acting like a bunch of women"
>sleep on the couch for 2 days :(
>>711340285
Late capitalism is now. The system can support itself for only so much longer
>>711340324
You're so stupid.
>>711340244
That's not at all how law works. But again, keep on keeping on. Luckily for the world, there are people who study law, rather than assuming they know the law and don't understand the difference between criminal and civil proceedings and convictions.
The literal plebeians voted for him.
>>711340443
>little crybabies
Truth!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grD_IINiH9c
>>711340512
haha, well said
>>711340443
But look at all that blue, obviously the red cheated, there's like at least four blue specks that are being victimized.
>>711340451
in this unpure democracy, people in big cities don't vote.
>>711340443
I'm a Republican and I think you're either falseflagging or you don't understand population density. Some of those blue counties are worth 50+ red ones. Even as a Republican, I acknowledge this.
>>711340420
>this time
or the last time Republicans got into the White House. Twice in a row now but just for Republicans, that's incredibly statistically significant.
The vast majority of registered voters are Democrats, there is no surprise they would win the popular vote consistently.
>>711340576
kek
>>711340531
Trump's "business" was fraudulent.
>>711339514
You hope at least.
Trump is here to stay, and you're going to have to put your big boy pants on, and deal with it. >>711339902
Literally changes nothing of what I said. If Trump gets kicked out you're getting Pence.
>>711340613
Fucking 148 keks
>>711337065
Why the hell left only use cartoons, never a real pic?
>>711340621
>>711340443
That's a verizon coverage map you fucking retards. Holy shit.
>>711340621
>>711340443
>HURR DURR WHAT IS POPULATION DENSITY
>>711340285
But what bout my Obama phone?
>>711340102
I'm not quitting any fucking thing. I'm an American and I always will be.
But I refuse to recognize a "President" who was NOT elected by the American people. He may as well be some African shithole dictator, as far as I'm concerned.
Tell me, if they decide to eliminate term limits next, will that be enough to get your guys' attention?
>>711340484
>that white culture is inherently evil and should be destroyed
im actually making the exact opposite argument.
i'm saying that the majority of white trump supporters are NOT racists and bigots. and us liberals need to recognize that and stop dismissing the needs of half the country.
>>711340604
>rather than assuming they know the law and don't understand the difference between criminal and civil proceedings and convictions.
That anon is wrong, but then you are also very ignorant and wrong too.
>>711340512
you are the worst of all Trump supporters.
>>711340220
Love to taste your tears when fox shows a live execution.
>>711340489
>most
>47 % of the 52% that voted
Most people actually didn't smartass
Keep crying about that 0.2% loss that means literally nothing
>>711340628
There are people in every area who don't vote, feeling as though their vote doesn't matter due to the winner-takes-all system most states use. If you're a republican in California, your vote is meaningless, for example.
You can remedy the system by encouraging states to do away with winner-takes-all systems in the electoral college. But the system as is does work better than a pure democracy, as far as considering diversity of opinion.
>>711340476
>Just got done reading a paragraph some dude wrote.
>Claim he is illiterate.
I will never understand the stupidity of people some times.
Niggers itt think they are better know how to organize election than founding fathers.
>>711340604
I've a private citizen seeks a successful prosecution for fraud it becomes a criminal matter.
The law is very clear on this.
>>711340601
you're dumb and the reason why america is losing ground to the rest of the world. stay in school.
>>711340747
>the majority are NOT racists and bigots
less than 60M people voted for Trump, you really think more than 30M were not racist or biggoted in any way?
That sounds naive as fuck to me.
>>711340819
His Low reading comprehension falls into the category of being illiterate.
>>711340451
A pure democracy would clearly fall apart due to the farmers and outsiders feeling like they don't matter.
People seem to think the system sucks and as far as voting fraud goes, it does. However, our Founding Father's were not idiots and this system we have is constantly evolving. Losers want to take us back centuries and destroy everything that has worked fairly for the last 43 presidents.
>>711340378
>however the total number of electorates is capped
No it isn't, the number of electorates can be changed/increased at any time
it was last increased in 1991
>>711340688
The Republicans want Pence, that's the point. And, the democrats will support them.
>>711340621
no one lives in the red spots. but apparently their vote counts MORE than the blue spots.
>>711340613
The Bil Maher show clip perfectly reflects the typical "we're so educated and smart, and you are dumb" attitude flaunted by the left.
>>711340655
*vast* majority? I'm gonna need a source anon.
Go on, find that reliable source that states the VAST majority of voters are registered Democrat.
>>711340891
Says the nigger that can't think of any way voter fraud could possibly happen.
>I mean it's against the law!!?
>>711340718
Hur durr not understanding basic division of power.
>>711340845
Show me the code citation?
>>711340790
Not an argument. Thanks for playing.
>>711340819
explain why you are so stupid then, is it autism?
>>711340718
HURRR DURR WHAT IS ELECTORAL COLLEGE
>>711340648
Not actually falseflagging and population density is made up by giving the state more representatives.
>>711340621
b8
>>711337800
They should California is the 6th largest economy in the world. All these small towns be leaching off California. Middle Americas are dirt people, irrelevant
>>711340539
>About half of the people who voted, voted for Trump
>ITS NOT FAIR THE PEOPLES VOICE DIDN'T GET HEARD
Yeah, you're an idiot.
Oh also
>I love my country deeply
>Votes Clinton
Yeah, once again, you're an idiot.
>>711340655
Not as 2015 according to PEW research. There are more registered republicans this time around, solely due to Donald Trump.
>>711341016
>rural bumpkins need EXTRA voting power because they're so fucking useless
no
>>711340918
I'm a racist and voted for Hillary.
Death to America! !!
We'll try again next election.
>>711341012
still can't point to a single source of voter fraud.
Despite all you you crying, President elect Donald Trump is our leader now. A couple weeks and you'll will be fine, you always will.
God bless the United States of America, the strongest nation in the world.
>>711340727
Listen baby he was elected by the American people. He was elected by the American process that has existed since day one. He is your president, legitimately elected. Having a wet diaper doesn't change anything. You see me in the street with Obamy was elected? See me saying 'he aint be my president!'. No, because I am an American first, not some little whiny bitch tit who thinks his opinion is more important than anyone elses.
>>711337529
Why in the fuck can you not call it unfair? the results of the election are fair, but the electoral college is anything but fair. It was initially designed because the framers were worried the people wouldn't become informed and were too stupid to vote (to be fair to them at the time you probably didn't know anyone outside of your town or at best your state, so choosing leaders would be tricky) but it also served to protect the Jeffersonian concept of the yeoman farmer, and to benefit the slave holding south
The number of electors a state has is based on number of congressmen, which is based on population. However, slaves counted for 3/5, so this entire class of people who couldn't vote still counted for the purposes of allotting electoral power; a priori the slaveholders got to cast 3/5th of a vote on behalf of their slaves. What this meant is that the slave holding south got to wield more electoral power than they should have by proportional representation
There was an argument made that the rights of smaller states had to be preserved, that this protected from tyranny of the majority, but why should more populous areas be disenfranchised when the interests of smaller states is already so completely respected in the senate?
what it results in is a vote in Montana being worth 4 California votes, why is that fair, why is that just?
>>711341186
Kill yourself shill
>>711341021
not an argument. just a fact.
globalization = bad
immigrants = took our jobs!!!
>>711341110
2/3rds of which were supposed to be voting for Hillary. At least that's what we kept hearing going into the election.
>>711341045
Nothing I had said would imply I am stupid.
It SHOWS why you're stupid.
You just refuse to see it because you are blinded by your ego.
Good luck in life being retarded. It's gonna be a rough one.
>>711340706
Verizon has the best coverage and Trump is president. It's clear by that graphic. Sucks to be you, you filthly fucking disgusting nog.
>>711340918
i really dont think im being naive.
i live in a red county in a blue state. i know a lot of trump supporters, and i wouldnt call a single one of them racist.
stop calling them dumb and bigoted, and try to actually listen to what their concerns are. dismissing half the country does no damn good.
>>711340984
There are about 6 million more registered Dems than Reps, and that's the lowest the difference has ever been.
>>711341223
retards ITT won't read this because it's TL;DR but also 100% accurate.
>>711341367
>lowest
in the last 22 years at least
>>711341186
Talk to Bernie, and the Californian voters about that one.
There's plenty of evidence Hillary rigged it. You have access to the internet. You can go find it yourself.
>>711341091
>dirt people..
Yeah I guess argriculture and feeding the country/exporting the crops isn't vital at all to the us economy.
>>711341434
my favorite answer to cite your sources if you make a claim
>look it up yourself
>>711333988
Empty land shouldnt have more political sway then living people . period
This is the most common argument for the electoral college but really a weak one.
Three percent of the population account for eight percent of the electorate
People in america will never have real power or freedom untill they can not only vote and be counted but have those votes dictate who the president will be
Also the presidency is chosen by 2 or 3 battle ground states every year anyway
Shit try and be a president without winning ohio . That shit just dont happen.
>>711341434
the DNC rigged it against Bernie. agreed on that.
>>711341355
>in a blue state
most of Trump's supporters were not in blue states, you are judging a continent-wide population on a misrepresentative sample just because it's a personal anecdote of yours.
Regardless or your opinion, the way you came to it is pretty naive.
>>711340804
We are on the same side. Just stop being retarded.
>>711340747
Well congratulations. You and you alone seem to be awake, you alone in all this messy blithering idiots railing against Trump in this thread. Thing about democracy is, even people who disagree with you on damn near everything still get to vote and guess what, they voted, and it's time for you to deal with it. The exact arrogant white-hating attitude most of you are displaying now in opposition to Trump is WHAT GOT him elected.
>>711336290
Only fucking good post. I've all of these dumbass floundering comments and yours is the only one that is realistically spoken.
>>711341445
If you only want to eat corn and steak. Sure.
>>711341223
because if a Montana vote was not worth 4 California votes, we wouldn't be the United States of America. We would be the United Coalition of New York and California.
>>711341268
You refute absolutely nothing. Make whatever retarded assertions about my positions you like because they aren't coming into play here. Only this one is: Why on earth should people who aren't citizens be permitted to vote in the US election?
Do US citizens vote for Venezuela policy?
>>711340957
Only the establishment republicans don't like Trump, and they are growing few in number.
Stop talking about shit you don't understand.
>>711341560
Bullshit. Bernie came nowhere near even getting 30% of the vote.
>>711341223
>Why in the fuck can you not call it unfair?
you can call the system unfair. that is fine and a legit concern.
but the actual results of the election, based on that system, was fair and square. there was no cheating or rigging or any unfair advantage.
>>711341214
>now
nope
He has multiple court dates before that can happen, it would not be surprising to see him never actually become President.
>>711341619
let's just break up the union and every state for themselves because states > US
kys
>>711341624
Don't forget milk, eggs, butter, chicken, potatoes, cranberries, apples, oranges, grapes (and therefore wine), barley (beer)...the list goes on and on...
>>711337569
If you actually learn the numbers you find out rural areas actually receive more funding than urban areas and it's not close. http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/05/which-states-are-givers-and-which-are-takers/361668/
All you are saying is that disproportionately benefits some arbitrary group is fine as long as you're in that group. You can say that, but acknowledge that you're not some Ayn Rand hero valiantly fighting the nanny state, most of the entitlement narrative is complete bullshit.
>>711336946
There aren't laws actually, just some fines.
>>711341560
Bernie was an old withered Jew raisin who was too busy keeping the communist manifesto squeezed between his ass cheeks to every have any hope of winning.
>>711341654
because they pay taxes.
taxation = representation
>>711341678
>no unfair advantage
you're a fucking CHUMP
Republicans publicly BRAGGED about suppressing more votes than Trump won by in key states. The system is rigged, the results are not fair.
>>711341530
I disagree. People in cities may be swayed to vote for a specific candidate because of the popular views/values/norms associated with that person.
>>711341659
Hillary was probably the shittiest candidate i've ever seen. and i saw Trump. Bernie would have done much better.
>>711341678
agreed.
