My school just did a walkout because of trump being our next president, what is the point of walkouts? I thought this was a democracy
>>711230164
>Complaining about getting out of school.
Fucking normie.
walk out cause their happy they can choose the school they want instead of being in that shit hole?
>>711230164
>I thought this was a democracy
exercising the right to walk out is precisely that dumbfuck. Consider the opposite
>>711230164
its' called a bullshit excuse to skip school and because your school is liberal. THey will get a free day.
>>711230164
what retarded backwater shithole of a school do you go to
>>711230523
I meant that trump is already president, the people already chose him, why are people trying to get rid of him
>>711230523
the oppisite is the school forcing political ideas onto the children because turmp became president.
>>711230164
>democracy
More like demoCRAZY, amirite?
>>711230164
They are training you to behave like a spoiled millennial in your adult life.
Asked to work late, walk out
Don't get promotion, walk out
Don't get your way, walk out
Have fun throwing temper tantrums as an adult
they walk out demonstrating weakness not strength. They could accept their new president or they could accept life goes on including education and work.
They walked out to be lazy and ask for free passing grades
>>711230621
No, the opposite is it being forbidden to speak out against the authority, otherwise known as totalitarianism.
Because we allow free speech and freedom of expression.
Fine, we elected Trump, democracy works. But we also get to say, "we think that's really fucking dumb."
Respect both aspects of our country.
>>711230686
>Asked to work late, walk out
>Don't get promotion, walk out
>Don't get your way, walk out
Well, that won't last long since you'll get fired unless you're black or female.
>>711230164
FUCK YOU TRUMP
WE WILL NOT ALLOW YOU TO BE PRESIDENT!
WE WILL NOT LET YOU MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!
WE WILL NOT LET YOU SPREAD RACISM AND MISOGINY!
WE WILL NOT LET YOU KILL DEMOCRACY!
It's not a democracy. It was never a democracy. The sytem is rigged! Crooked Hillary has the media in her pocket!
>>711230523
Walking out to demonstrate you don't approve of your government because you lost, is the biggest load of horse shit I've ever heard of. It's babies first loss where no one gave them a big fucking trophy and a bucket of fat fuck ice cream.
>>711230164
Actually if we were a democracy, Clinton would be president for winning the popular vote. Trump is president because we are in fact a republic.
>>711230950
There are several counts of voter fraud for the democrats, the dead voting for the democrats, election machines literally paid for by Soros, but despite rampant corruption, the Republicans won. Deal with it.
>>711230164
Hillary won the popular vote so no. If this was a true democracy she would have won
>>711230164
Why are Hillary voters in school at all? Not like they plan on getting a job after school. They should walkout and stay out. Dedicate their lives to protesting.
Disregard democracy, acquire an understanding about the void you are drifting pointlessly through and how you will die in it and nothing you do in it matters.
>>711230433
Check'd and also this
>>711231192
Typical millennial that was never taught about the structure of our government
The electoral college was created so places like Rhode Island votes count as much as California.
Else, California and new York would decide every issue in our country.
Go back to your safe space junior, mommy will bring you Pringles later
>>711231152
>>711231192
Because that totally never happened in the history of the US before, otherwise we would know because of all the whiny sore loser bitches, right?
>>711231152
You faggots make it way too easy to spot that it's your first election
>>711231472
Lol, no, he's referring to that we are a republic, not a true democracy, by definition. Now who's stupid?
>>711230613
Majority of the voters did not choose him. Do not lie. It is just your fucked up american voting system that made this happen.
Trump and Hillary are both shit, just in diferent ways.
Trumps staff are a bunch of idiots just like him. Hillary had at least (even if she might not give a fuck either way) more sensible people to work with.
>>711231513
Type into Google: democracy vs republic
Now do you understand?
I bet you feel foolish. That's OK.
>>711230613
The people chose Hillary, Electoral College chose Trump
>>711231192
Consider the United States not as one country, but as a political unit of 50+ united countries (the states and territories) which exchange some of their rights as free individual nations for the defense provided in union.
>>711230164
To get a grand slam at Denny's you idiot. Any excuse to ditch school is good enough
>>711231022
>because you lost
This isnt a fucking game you sperg. Regardless of whether you agree with the result or not you have a right to protest. This could affect peoples lives in a huge way.
If a candidate pledged to take all your furry porn and dragon dildos away for example, would you quietly accept that "you lost?"
t. Trump Voter
>>711231513
>>711231472
I'm pointing out the fact OP is an idiot
We aren't a democracy we are a constitutional democratic republic
>>711230164
kek,
fucking iGeneration and your narcissistic trophy hugging safe space bullshit.
Walk out, go ahead, it's probably the first real exercise your lard ass has gotten in the last year.
>>711231542
What does a True democracy look like?
>>711230686
I guess the American Revolution was just a bunch of babies getting upset then.
I mean, they only had to pay their taxes to their legal government.
>>711230164
>thought this was a democracy
You were wrong.
It's a Republic.
Similar, but a democracy is straight majority rule. A Republic protects the rights and property of the People regardless of the majority.
>>711230164
Trump at his meeting with Obama: A very good man, very good man.
Oh wait, I thought Obama was an evil muslim terrorist?
>>711231765
>What does a True democracy look like?
Much like the inside of a monkey's asshole but without the banana smell.
>>711231722
That operates as a parliamentary democracy.
>>711231472
Now, how easy and sensible would it be if we just counted ALL VOTES since every American lives in AMERICA. Fuck your states.
>>711230613
Get ready to feel the Bern, you neo-Nazi Trumpcucks. There's a storm coming, in the form of millions and millions of disaffected Americans sick of having the American lie shoved down their throats by racist, homophobic Nazis like you and the mainstream media. Don't like what I'm saying? Go back to Faux News.
Capitalism has to be the greatest failure of organised government ever- but it came with the greatest lie ever told as well. Everything is fine. Keep consuming. Keep producing. You are what you own, and if you don't own anything, you are worthless.
The capitalist Ponzi scheme is falling, /b/rothers, just a little later than Marx predicted. It is coming.
>>711231722
From the Wikipedia page on "Democracy":
>Democracy was originally conceived in Classical Greece, where political representatives were chosen by a jury from amongst the male citizens: rich and poor.
Wikipedia calls THAT a democracy. What i think you're suggesting is called a direct democracy, or maybe an absolute democracy. Like grey can be different shades, democracy can too, as long as citizens elect officials or decide on issues regularly.
>>711231842
politics much?
I'm sure when Trump is in the whitehouse he will finally get to see Obummers birth certificate.
>>711231813
>A Republic protects the rights and property of the People regardless of the majority
That's why the United Soviet Socialist Republics, the People's Republic of China, and the Democratic People's Republic of Korea were and are such leaders in human rights and the rights of dissidents.
Republics just don't have hereditary titles (on paper).
>>711230523
>democracy is a system of government
>protesting the exact same system of government
same exact thing
>welcome to your reality, murricahhhh
>>711231765
I mean the system of government. It's a word, you know, with a definition. It means a different thing than republic.
>>711231980
kek.
So much butthurt.avi
Not
sure
my
sides
can
stand
this
any
more
>>711230164
Special snowflakes didn't get the Hillary Cuntin.
Oh well, let them cry for awhile.
Tons of your teachers voted Trump
>>711232048
You have. Since 1961.
Its a republic.
>>711231588
>your fucked up american voting system that made this happen.
Trump and Hillary are both shit, just in diferent ways.
>Trumps staff are a bunch of idiots just like him.
>Hillary had at least (even if she might not give a fuck either way) more sensible people to work with.
so you're not even American but you have knowledge of what Hillarys staff is like to work with?
>>711230164
Trump is a racist xenophobe, haven't you all been listening to our what our celebrity masters have been telling us?
>>711230613
half the people chose him, the other half hates his guts. Would have been the same either way. Welcome to American politics
>>711231588
Majority of the voters did not choose him. Do not lie. It is just your fucked up american voting system that made this happen.
Trump and Hillary are both shit, just in diferent ways.
Trumps staff are a bunch of pimps just like him. Hillary had (even if she might not give a fuck either way) more crooked people to work with.
>Fixed that for you
>>711232081
>>711230164
Ehhhh....I'm taking bets on how long until some ultrafemboy-SJW gets a set of balls gets a rifle and takes a shot at Trump
I got 20$ says it within the first 18 months
>>711230164
They're libcucks who are the highest degree butthurt.
>>711232120
> KEKEKEKEKECUCKCUKCUCKCUCK
All you trumptards seems to have the same speech impediment. I feel for you. I can not be easy.
>>711231947
LoL do you cry babies ever learn in school that the states created the federal government, not the other way around.
People that want the federal government to do and provide everything in their life do not want to live in a democratic Republic
We elect a fellow American citizen to be president for four years, we don't elect emperors here
Get over your butt hurt that your side didn't win and go back to school and or work
>>711232034
...but we're a republic...not a democracy...
>>711231610
>No consensus exists on how to define democracy
Literally straight from wikipedia
>Democracy is a system of government in which the citizens exercise power directly or elect representatives
>Majority rule is often listed as a characteristic of democracy
Never is it said that democracy means 1 vote = 1 president point. In the US, you vote for your state, not for your president. It is the state's vote that gives president points.
There are people who actually thought this through for decades to create the least unfair system, but I'm sure you can show them.
Oh, but what do we have here as a final word?
>The term "republic" classically has encompassed both democracies and aristocracies
>>711231699
This. Also check'd
>>711232247
Do you? Do you care?
>>711231765
a slow, unsustainable shithole
>>711232257
Oddly, not something that bothers me.
Here's a clue, people are sick and tired of all the whining from those who think someone owes them something because they are too damn lazy to work for it themselves.
>>711232411
show them what
>>711232247
Any moron can look up her staff and their background.
The fact that you act surprised about this says enough about Americans and the way the vote.
>>711231796
taxes that were totally justified.
>>711232394
More specifically: We are the Democratic Republic of Obongo.
>>711232620
Fuck off.....seriously
>>711232353
>speech impediment
kek. laughing isn't a speech impediment.
shillery cukton lost, deal with it.
>>711231796
They were also miffed about not being able to keep slaves. Fun fact that's conveniently forgotten.
Now you will actually learn something, called logic
>>711230950
AMERICA ISNT DEMONRATIC IS A REPUBLIC
>>711232060
apples and oranges
>>711232099
A republic has to be a democracy, since it requires elected officials.
There is no nation state that calls themselves the Democracy of X.
>>711232608
It says a lot about our education system really...and the fact that foreign news isn't a thing here. Americans are taught that we're the center of the modern world and that nobody else really matters. The only time that there is ever anything about other countries on the news is when its about something that can give our media more scare power. Bombings, war, rape, etc...nothing else gets aired in America that is relevant to other countries. Thus, we have become a bunch of ignorant idiots who are too medicated to even care
>>711231980
>After 8 years of democratic rule
>After 8 years of Obama
FUCK THIS NAZI RACIST SYSTEM I AM SICK OF THIS RACIST GOVERNMENT WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH
millennial crybaby
>>711232275
>Trumps staff are a bunch of pimps just like him
Sure buddy
>>711232774
There was the DDR, but you are correct.
>>711232652
Last I checked I was pretty white...same for the neighbors...
>>711232772
Why? They're republics by the strictest definition: They don't have royalty. They are ruled "by the people".
>>711232889
I wasn't aware pimps tried to force their hos to have a funeral for their abortions.
>>711231980
High quality bait
>>711232120
Clearly victimized by HQ bait
>>711232774
Ok good point
Also, colors we see are all just reflection of the same light, so red and blue are the same.
>>711232741
I would have been pissed too
>>711232700
laughing is healthy. KEKing is not.
>>711230164
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqEUy0jtFkg
>>711231154
> election machines literally paid for by Soros
kek
>>711232871
Lol newfag triggered hard
>>711232999
Fair enough.
![1421757030961.cached[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/f2xRPnK.jpg "1421757030961.cached[1].jpg")
>>711230164
WALK OUT IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH ::: SELF IMMOLATION FOR HILLARY IS!!! SHOW UR PROTERST:::: #DEATHB4TRUMP #SUICIDE4HER
>>711233024
KAKAKAKAKEKEKEKEKASKAKAKAKEKFRKGVKTRBKT
>>711232575
Your superior system you just came with yesterday as that president you don't like was winning
Untill next time, when the guy you don't like would have lost if they were using the previous system, so you'll scream that they need to revert it
>>711232953
>>711233011
Kek
>>711230164
American politics is not a democracy.
Most of the rest of the world is laughing at the fucked up system that has been put in place.
Just take this election as a perfect example.
Hillary got MORE votes but lost anyways.
Trump won more electors and that's why he won.
This confuses the rest of the world that calls themselves democratic. How can you lose even if you get the most votes?
Only in America. God Bless.
>>711233024
You got duped kid. Its not true that he bought any voting machines.
So. fucking. clueless.
>>711231765
The only true democracy that has ever existed was on pirate ships. Sounds silly but it's true. Captain was voted for, objectives voted for, each man had a vote.
>>711233103
This.
Let's show them we mean business
>>711233272
However, after that vote, power was granted to only the Captain, and the only recourse was bloody rebellion. So not really.
>>711233241
KOKIKAKUK
>>711233254
You're not helping. Blame Hillary and the Democratic party. Do something productive. Electoral college will stay
>>711230164
Don't be a pussy ass Nigger..Stay in school Puto.
>>711233257
Super smart newfag detected...
>>711233254
lmao no, he won popular and was "winning" in electorals, his lead was so steep that Hillary just conceded. Please continue your high school education
>>711233021
is that your channel? video uploaded an hour ago.
>>711233380
Meh, sounds about right. Maybe America is a democracy after all.
>>711230164
It's not a democracy its a representative republic
>>711233103
>>711233316
0/10 dude. You're not fooling anyone
>>711233272
More like an oligarchy or a democratic dictatorship
>>711233402
KEKKLES. MY KEKS ARE INCREASING!!!!
>>711233417
Why not fix something that is clearly broken?
>>711230164
We live in a Republic. Young people don't really understand what this means--but people are unhappy to realize, to fully realize, that we aren't living in a democracy.
>And to the Republic
Not to the Democracy.
Hillary won the popular vote. In a democracy, she wins. In a republic, she sometimes wins, sometimes loses--but, in this instance, she loses.
For older millennials, this has now happened twice to a liberal candidate. 2000 and 2016.
Young people are upset. Liberals have had our Republic tinkered with by traditionalists and Conservatives. Voting no longer matters unless it is a landslide. If it isn't, Conservatives will win every close election because of our Republic.
If you aren't upset about this, then you're dense. If you support it because your candidate won, then you're a low character person.
Good for young people for making their voices heard. Older people certainly want to run things without any push back. As evidenced by this election, they do.
>>711231980
sit back. shut up. and let the adults take care of your manbaby temper tantrum. you all completely embarassed yourselves and ill be very surprised if you guys get even close next election.
>>711233254
Soooooo, same as in the rest of the world, then. There isn't a single democracy with proportional voting system. Faggot.
>>711230164
I'm so glad I went to school in Sheridan, AR where we had like 5 blacks in my class
I got an idea, instead of wasting your time and energy protesting what is already done and what is as yet untested (he might be the best president yet for all you know)
Why don't you all support your local politicians and make sure the ones you do support win next time.
You know, like the trump supporters did
>>711233587
KÖKÅKÄKKÖKÅKÄ
>>711233597
ITS NOT BROKEN...duh
>>711232048
Even you can see Obamas birth certificate, dumbass.
But yes of course. They are being nice to each other. Trump is acting like every other politician. He even said he would seek counsel from Obama.
>>711233461
Clearly smarter than your ass
>>711233611
What will you do when Trump delivers on none of his promises? Or does, and gets the world sufficiently pissed as to render American political power moot?
>>711233272
Ancient Greeks had democracies too. And Plato says it was a clusterfuck, too. The more you know.
>>711233466
No he didn't win popular. Not sure where you got that idea. Tho it was very close
>>711233254
Come back after you finish middle school. The only people confused by this are those that flunked out of school and those that haven't finished it yet.
>>711233709
Then why does the popular vote even get counted if it doesn't matter?
>>711233533
Mutiny was rarely violent. More like enough people voting the captain out and electing a new one. The politics of pirate ships was pretty interesting. If you guys base your facts off movies... It's not really how it worked at all.>>711233776
>>711233661
KEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEEKEKEKEKEKEKKEKKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKKEKEKEKKEKEKEKKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEK
>>711233597
Because you can't fix it until you have power! Fix the Democratic party first
>>711233776
Not saying it's not a cluster. Humanity is a clusterfuck. Also you are right what with voting with stones and all that.
>>711233728
THANKS FOR LETTING ME KNOW. GOOD ARGUMENT MAN. HIGH FIVE!!!!
>>711233254
>The electors elect
Whoa lad
Little did you know the US have states, which your little country does not. Each state is similar to a country, with different laws, customs and culture. You scream about democracy and equality, when what you propose is that small states should not have the right to vote, as bigger states would have enough voters to decide the president themselves.
So people vote for their state's choice, and the president is decided on the majority of states.
Since it would also be bullshit that a small state could influence as much as a big state, each state is worth a certain amount of points.
This way, it's a middle ground between "voters elect" and "states elect".
tdlr: states are a retarded notion and should either be abolished or gain independance
And I'm not even american.
I'm glad these threads are cooling off, with the notable exception of this chucklefuck >>711233897
>>711233930
Why can't the republicans? shouldn't they be interested in having a fair and honest election too?
>>711233897
K*K*K*k*k*k*k*k
>>711233728
IM NOT THE ANON YOU REPLIED TO BTW.
>>711231588
Fuck you clown. You don't live here so shut the fuck up. Obama Care sucks...
Demrocrats have lost 1400 positions since 2010. I think the American people HAVE spoken!
>>711233750
And further, if you think the Clintons lined their pockets, just wait until your smart businessman gets into office. What kind of deal loses you 54 million to get a job work 2 million over 4 years. I'm thinking he's going to make his money at our expense.
>>711234075
Obamacare sucks?
I mean, that's an opinion. A stupid one, but it sure is yours.
>>711233833
For the lulz, obviously. In all seriousness though, they have to to know which representatives get to cast their votes.
>>711233833
It's not counted. Each state votes are counted. "Popular vote" is just the total, a fun little trivia on the side. You're right, it shouldn't even be mentioned. Unless there is actually a use for it in specific cases that I don't know of.
>>711234075
> basement dweller detected
Enjoy global economy, faggot.
>>711234018
No because it's never happened to them. If it's benefiting them why would they change it? You think Republicans have morals? Don't kid yourself
>>711234172
>The majority of people voting for one candidate over another shouldn't be counted
Lol
>>711234018
>>711234045
KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
>>711230164
The right to protest and free speech is a necessary part of Democracy
Trump lost the popular vote, don't be surprised that a lot of people are upset
>>711230164
>something I'm not going to take pictures of just happened to me. Instead of asking the 200 people around me what's going on, I'd like a political discussion so I can sit in the parking lot on my phone because I have no friends.
While I'm sure you're a social wreck, the rest is bullshit.
>>711234075
At least Obamacare (as you love to call it) was created with the goal of helping people.
>>711234213
So the Republicans are amoral, according to you, of which Trump is one. Congratulations, you played yourself.
>>711230164
We have never been a democracy. We are a constitutional republic. There is no point to a walk out in this case.
>>711234253
See >>711234015
Also feel free to send your superior political system to the people in charge in a nice letter
>>711234141
Way to prove your point anon...
>>711230164
Leave it to millennial idiots to walk out on a free education.
>>711234299
No, it was it created to help people.
>>711234305
We're a Democratic Republic
our government is both Democracy and Republic, by all technicalities. Quit parroting bullshit you don't understand.
>>711234275
putin's guy just came out and admitted to having contact with trump campaign during election. (reuters)
some weird, questionable shit going on. Rigged is not the word. influenced by malevolent outside forces? possible.
>>711234141
Yeah it does... My bill was $600 a month at the start of Obama Care.. Now it is going to be $1800 a month.
Republicans will end Obama Care the FIRST DAY Trump is sworn in.
Fuck you obama care
>>711233833
its very simple
united states is a collectiong states, they have an amount of electorial college votes relative to their population.
the stats ec votes for that state and the whoever the majority of the states vote for is who they vote for
hillary won the popular vote because she won population centers like new york and Los angeles but lost the ec vote because trump won the majority of the states, calfiornia and newyork both have some of the largest ec sway in the land but they cannot counterbalance the rest of the states votes
so the popular vote is needed to tell ec in each individual state who the poplic of that state wants them to vote for,
people bitching about hilalry winning the populay vote ( ironic considering they were just last week telling republicans that they better not cry when she wins the electorial college even if trump wins popular) dont understand the popular vote only matters in a state by state basis
there is something called a faithless elector but is not even really an issue
>>711234299
I'm talking about the Republican leaders. Yes Trump is not a moral person. You're the one being played if you think he is.
>>711231980
YOU AND YOUR ILK SHOULD LEAVE
>>711234365
Instead of saying it's a stupid opinion how about you come up with a counter argument. Because, well, that system isn't working. Or do you have a different experience?
>>711234305
You are a federal Republic with a constitution. Federal republics usually (and in this case do) operate under a parliamentary system, which is a democratic system of governance.
>>711230909
You don't have a choice, fuckface. Election's over. Go home.
>>711230613
Actually the people chose Hilary Clinton if you look at voting she won.
>>711234358
Honestly, you don't really understand anything.
The reason this is so distasteful for people is because Americans are raised to believe that a single voice matters; that their voice counts.
As far as your discussion of states, you leave out a ton of context and discuss at as if you were in fourth grade.
Honestly, I'm not going to teach a lesson to some foreign retard.
>>711234365
Prove what? If you think that the ACA sucks, you have very specific views. If you hold those views, then you most likely fit into a specialty group--old people on government subsidies, or young people that didn't really experience health insurance prior to the ACA.
Pre-existing conditions, by itself, makes the ACA not suck.
You just dum bru.
>>711230164
>High schoolers
>Minors
>Can't vote
>Literally no weight in the political system at all
"Lets protest things we don't understand and have no part in."
Fucking kids these days, I tell ya.
>>711234458
And this is exactly why the US sucks. You guys have managed to have a healthcare system that is more expensive to the government AND to the patients.
>>711234141
it actually really does, good basic idea implemented so poorly its done nothing but fuck people over
>>711230613
Trump is not the president until January 20 when he's sworn in. He is the president elect only.
>>711230164
>school just did a walk out
Here's you in 10 years OP
>>711234444
No. We are a Constitutional Republic.
>>711234371
>blaming millennials for voting for Trump or low turnout
Do you faggots just assume the first shit that pops into your head is true without even checking first?
>>711233103
Let's see some smoke
>>711230613
If you look at the votes only half voted for him.
>>711234472
My entire point is that he isn't, and that his policies (especially his environmental ones) are going to screw your country (and potentially the world) over.
Let me put it this way: China has less pollution per capita. China, the largest polluter in the world, is taking severe steps to reduce pollution.
>>711234015
each state is NOT similar to a country, certain states are disimilar and certain states are very similar
for instance, texas is dissimilar from new york but it is very similar to oklahoma
california is very dissimilar to michigan but very similar to oregon
and on top of that there is a common core american identity and we all speak the same language and have the same federal laws
in short, you dont have any fucking clue what you are talking about, which is not surprising since your subject is america and you are not an american
>>711234502
Nope we are a Constitutional Republic.
>>711234681
Yes, and our SPECIFIC type of Constitutional Republic is a DEMOCRATIC Republic. That's what our Constitution was designed for.
Learning a single term is not enough to understand the situation, you moron.
If you don't like trump, nobody said you have to stay.
BYE FELICIA!
>>711234788
not only this, but states cannot have armed forces
>>711234753
Kek enveramemt hejp poluton
>>711234075
> You don't live here so shut the fuck up.
HAHA
I live where ever I want to live. You have no idea.
> Obama Care sucks...
There is no perfect system. Everything is based on compromises. Universal healthcare is however what needs to be, if you have not gone full retard. And i suspect you allready are just that.
>>711234586
no she didnt
people in la and new york choose hillary
the rest of us choose trump
sorry if yu cant understand that each state gets a say and its not just up to the crybabies in the big cities
electorial college is in place exactly for that reason
>>711234613
I don't understand anything because americans believe things people tell them without checking facts or understanding the reasoning behind them?
Ok then
And yes, indeed, there is more context than a 10 lignes 4chan post. Thank you for clarifying that for americans that may read this thread.
I know you aren't going to teach anything, shitposting is much funnier.
>>711234753
By isn't I mean, Not a moral person.
>>711234797
The United States Of America are a Federal Republic with a Constitution. A "Constitutional Republic" isn't a thing. Republics can have a constitution, but no republic can be defined by only having that in addition to not having a king/queen/emperor.
>>711231152
>not understanding how the electoral college works
>>711234482
It doesn't work because most people go through the whole year without ever having to go get medical treatment. Those same people are penalized for being healthy and not going to a hospital. Being free isn't paying for everyone else's well being. It's taking care of yourself. Socialized medicine has its good aspects, but it's also full of bullshit that doesn't work because it got rammed down our throats, like it or not. There should be positives to not using your medical insurance in a year. Give people incentives to be healthier. That would work much better than forcing people to pay for others. I understand that the majority of the funding comes from those that pay that penalty every year, so funding would have to come from elsewhere...haven't gotten that far yet, but the system definitely needs fixing.
>>711234971
This guy gets it :)
>>711234633
>obamacare solved in two 4chan posts
Man it sure did take a lot more to get it going.
>>711234839
>>711234797
(some random interloper guy)
seems that constitutional scholars may still be arguing this kinda stuff today. keep going, but otherwise don't slit each other's throats, plz.
>>711234843
kek what if the US lost half its population
that would basically mean it would lose half its economy, half its power
>>711234643
Well, lets hope drump improves on this lackluster universal healthcare and make our lives better!
...Oh, he will not? He will throw the baby out with the bath water? How unexpected!
i'm missing a leg and a testicle and they made me walk out
>>711234788
Yes, hence the term "similar". Although I do not see how that has any relevance to the subject.
You said exactly the same thing you quoted, that certain states are very disimilmar, and therefore a direct poll is not forseeable.
>>711230164
>I thought this was a democracy
If it was a democracy Hillary would've won, but it's a republic.
Maybe you should walk out of your school into a better one?
>>711231752
I'm a 30 year old Millennial and I voted Trump. Don't lump me in with those fuckers, please. It's the same thing they're doing to Trump supporters. Remember, we have the moral high ground as centrists or moderate lefts. No one was ever listening to the far right. They just scream the loudest.
>>711234908
Universal healthcare is just more SJW victimized blahblah babytalk bullshit. The government needs to take care of us! WAHWAHWAHWAHWAH take care of yourselves and then it's not a problem. ITS THAT SIMPLE. Instead of crying about needing a safe space and blankie, go out and do something proactive that doesn't take a toll on the rest of society around you...
>>711235008
Wrong. Go do some research and come back to argue. We have always been a Constitutional Republic. We have never been a democracy. Its dangerous to have a pure democracy. For example if we did, Jim Crow laws would have lasted a lot longer or even still exist today.
>>711234470
The amount of stupid.
Why are you explaining anything if you don't understand?
The reason that, periodically, the popular vote has not reflected who was elected is because states choose how electoral college representatives are assigned. Many states are proportional--if you win 49.9%, then you get 49.9% of the electors. Other states are winner take all. These winner take all states are the reason the popular vote, sometimes, does not reflect who is elected.
>>711234643
You don't know what you're talking about.
Implementation was left up to the states. The federal government built a back-end that certain states took advantage of. These states, like California, have had incredibly successful ACA rollouts. Other states didn't--they built their own system, and shut the door to most insurers. Insurers, while they have to put aside some profits, couldn't even operate in many states with Republican governors.
Because of this, ACA becomes more expensive for everyone. The risk pool becomes so bad that insurers pull out altogether. You need an equal number of low risk people in a state to be insured, so that it offsets the cost of the high risk. Republican governor states, in general, made this impossible to pull off. And why?
Politics.
If it was as easy as California, the system would work. The federal government would subsidize the low cost, low income uninsured while the low cost, high income uninsured paid in. There was no reason to block this, except to torpedo the ACA.
And, by doing this, they convinced people like you the system is bad.
Naw. You just stupid.
>>711234613
You can't be serious...or you're a millenial...either way...
You just dum bru.
>>711235113
Implying anyone but butthurt millennials who are doing nothing but draining resources would go anyway
>>711234973
Shitposting is stupid here. You're anonymous, you cuck.
Go to reddit.
>>711230164
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>>711230164
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>>711230164
3
Fucking crybabies
>>711235395
>Why don't you make an argument
>"Pre-existing conditions"
>I better shitpost and backpedal
I see you, autism.
>>711235098
I'm not saying it's easy to solve - just that it is retarded to pay more and get less.
>>711235185
most countries are more dissimilar to each other than US states, so its wrong to say "US states are like countries because they are dissimilar like how countries are"
in general there are REGIONAL culture variations, which ignore state lines, but within those regions, the states are generally very similar (ie they are not like separate countries)
>>711235359
>forgetting how important population is in that whole equation to balance out the risk for insurers
>>711235399
still though dude, any country losing half its population overnight is in big trouble
>>711235209
>democracy
>republic
I don't get how those two are mutually exclusive.
>>711235289
You do realize the government actually does stuff like idk protect your borders? How is it the US still doesn't have universal health care and it costs more than anywhere else on the planet.
I worry the US will have a brain drain if this continues. The saving grace is trump technically still hasn't won until the electoral college votes. They can alway go rogue
>>711235127
So damn salty.
>>711235594
I literally mentioned it, without using specific babby terms.
And you missed it.
How the fuck.
>>711230164
>still being in school
Kill yourself fatty
>>711235559
Nah. I'm just bored of typing out paragraphs that only get ignorant responses so I've resorted to shitposting. I don't feel like wasting my time. You're quite clearly set in your liberal ways and I'd rather chew thumbtacks then sit here arguing about nothing with you...
>>711235359
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only 2 states have proportional voting. maine and nebraska and they only have 9 votes.
>>711235164
Jesus is someone looking for them??
>>711235605
Nah, we have mexicans for that
>>711235289
This is why the rest of the world thinks Americans are idiots. Go back to your basement and let the adults do the talking, please.
>>711235289
Hey, it works in other countries just fine. All I hear is your whiny WAHWAAHWAAAHHH about the fact that you might HAVE to see less fortunate people get the care they need.
>>711235749
Having knowledge about how states, the electoral college, and the ACA works makes one a liberal?
Jesus fuck, shitposter, kill yourself.
>>711234862
WRONG. See pic related.
>Map highlighting US states with State Defense Forces. States with Army-styled units are highlighted in red, those with naval units are highlighted in blue, and those with both are highlighted in green. Oklahoma is highlighted in purple, indicating its SDF is currently inactive.
>>711230164
nope it ceased being a democracy when the producers of honey booboo figured out how to hijack the right wing retards
>school children
>children
>>711235325
>pure democracy
Yeah, along with the "unedited" version of the bible, huh? Stupid.
>>711235818
but millennials dont work anyway?
i was thinking more along the lines of consumption
a large, consuming population (buying things) is ABSOLUTELY VITAL to an economy like in the US
>>711235787
This is a clear part of the point.
Welcome.
>>711235704
Implying they would go faithless elector route when she won the popular with less then 300k not like it was margin of millions.
>>711235937
>>711235884
Fullscreen windows a faggot
>>711235127
>He will throw the baby out with the bath water?
Even if he did just that it would be better.
I lost my good insurance for my family because the rate doubled after Obamacare.
The Obamacare insurance is near worthless and with high deductibles and you don't get any help paying for it because you are supposedly rich if you make more than ten dollars an hour and should to be able to afford $600 a month worth of insurance for a family of three.
Bragging about just forcing millions of people who couldn't afford it to buy insurance or face large fines is disgusting and a huge reason why Trump won.
Actually poor people / welfare people already have medicare and other programs.
>>711235707
Om not salty, im sugary!
>>711235865
This is what puzzles me about 4chan discussions. Why is liberal being used as an insult? Sure, I don't like SJWs and feminazis any better than you, but liberalism is what "made America great" in the first place, no? Aren't you letting yourselves be trolled by the whackos?
>>711235794
he should check his junk drawer.
>>711235222
trips, noice
Apologies anon. But that generation seems to have an over abundance of weapons grade stoopid. Though my group (Gen X) has a buttload of it's own issues.
>>711235884
a "state defense force" is not the same as a standing army, navy and air force
in general states aren't wealthy enough to have large armed forces like the federal government
>>711235994
Did you go HMO or PPO?
How much does your family make?
Which state are you in?
Lots of states have had this issue. Mostly red states, where governors have worked to kill the exchange, and mostly have done so.
>>711235983
true but a vote did go rogue in the bush years. I believe it was john quincy adams that won due to a rogue vote. I could be wrong though
>>711235712
All I'm saying is that most states don't have the population that Cali has, so it's not as easy to make things balance out. The whole bill was implemented poorly and those governors were smart enough to acknowledge that socialism never works. Ever. In the end, it fucks everyone over other than those that had nothing to contribute at the start. Universal healthcare is only good for those on welfare and niggers like you.
Imagine if it were the other way around and Trump lost and people were walking out. They'd be labeled as sexists and racists supporting a sexist racist worse than themselves. But since its Killary its just people exercising their rights. Fucking disgusting double standard.
>>711236100
>>711235884
>>711234862
>>711234788
>>711234862
ITT: retards struggle with the concept of federalism.
>>711235994
Soo....
....Drumpf will ofcourse make a better universal healthcare system? right...? RIGHT??
>>711234908
People don't seem to understand our current health care problem and are upcoming healthcare problem.
There have been many signs that our healthcare system is in a bubble. it's rate of cost (not insurance premium, but what is actually being billed out) has been rising at rates far faster than normal economic income/ inflation for almost 2 decades now.
Obomacare's real purpose was to try to push insurance premiums down by adding a big influx of new healthier blood (millennials) People who wont use insurance as much as the older generation (baby boomers approaching/ in retirement).
It also tried to put in things to slow the rate of health care inflation costs... it actually did so ... a little.
But pharmaceutical companies have seen their opportunity to raise their prices since obama care tells insurances they HAVE to cover drugs somewhat atleast for the people that need it. One of the reasons we see so many drugs increasing in cost... cause they can.
If obama care is revoked. I forsee many people pulling out of insurance all together. Rates continuing to go up at higher rates since you wont have younger people paying premiums that they don't need to pay since they are healthy enough. And republicans are saying they want to keep in the clauses involving letting anyone with predispositions being covered. This will make costs of premiums to rise even faster.
Eventually a very large % of people are going to not be able to afford insurance. There will be more people having to try to pay out of pocket (and fail because of the rising health care costs especially without an insurance company to "negotiate" the price down)
Eventually the entire healthcare system will have to pop like the housing market.
Obama care wasnt bad, it only tried to slow the bubble's growth by treating the system.
But neither republicans or democrats will go full social medicine to fix the actual problem, the health care industries cost inflation problem (bubble)
We Fucked
>>711235865
No. The way you type and argue makes you a liberal...I can tell and so can everyone else. It's ok.
>>711235829
>less fortunate people get the care they need.
They already had cheap and free government insurance.
The majority of the people who didn't have insurance they were whining about were healthy college age, who typically can't afford or just don't want to spend the money.
>>711230164
was it only the students, or did the faculty walk out with them?
if it was the faculty, then it's time to change schools.
>>711236055
How did liberalism make America great? I'm intrigued.
This election was basically a fucken coin flip.
>>711230164
Its only democracy if it goes your way, its only politically correct if it backs your views. You fascist fucks.
>>711235952
True, but if the millenials, niggers, and other useless peoples left we just might be able to climb back up out of debt due to the fact that we wouldn't have to buy so much worthless junk from Asia
>>711230621
How is the school forcing their views?
It's not like they put an official announcement saying that you must walk out.
If anything the students decided to walk out. Which is democratic.
Protesting (weather you approve of it or not) is a cornerstone of any democracy.
>>711236207
all im saying is that the differences between most countries is much more vast than the differences between most american states
is that really such a stretch? i had no idea this was so complex a subject
>>711236055
Because liberals, at their very essence, believe in absolute social control. They claim the opposite, but the current state of extreme political correctness is the evidence.
Liberals are the thought police.
" Diverse Like Me"
>>711236311
Mostly by free trade, since you seem to be thinking about wealth. The American dream was based on liberal values of freedom and equality (everyone gets a chance to be rich and successful), which seem to be broken now.
>>711236170
I agree with this statement %100
I guaran-fucking-tee that all those Trumpers disapproving of the protests, saying how we should just accept it, would be doing the same thing if their guy lost.
I guarantee it.
>>711236454
huh?
consumption is a good thing dude, idk where you get the idea that if we stop buying things then the economy will get better, but generally speaking its the complete opposite
consumption is vital for the free market, its what drives growth
>>711230164
Trump called for a revolution in 2012 for the same shit.
>>711230164
US is not a Democracy, you have a inary system where half of the votes are thrown away....
>>711236293
All students left, only like 10stayed in class, 2 teachers went with students
>>711236256
I'm a wealthy social conservative.
You're a welfare Latvian.
God Bless the poor.
>>711236506
Maybe you're paying attention to the wrong sorts. It's like with abstract art.. you get all these bullshit artists selling their pieces at thousands of dollars and you think "man, modern art sucks". But then yo go on the internet and realize that more art is being produced today than at any point in the past.
>>711236584
top kek
how could anyone defend that?
>>711236250
Thats retarded.
"O bummer care got revoked. Honey, stop those radiation treatments and get the kids off the ADHD medication! We're gettin rid of our health insurance! YEEEHAWWWW"
you didn't really say that did you? Did you really say ADULTS would go without healthcare because poor people have to pull their own fucking weight and maybe get a god damn job that has insurance? Fucking warehouses offer health insurance for full time. Get a clue nigger.
>>711236561
Not I.
Didn't like it either time obubber won but you didn't see me out protesting like a bunch of butthurt special flowers.
>>711236256
His grammar and sentence structure aren't "liberal". Just pointing that out.
>>711236404
Oh the irony.
Your guy said "I will accept the results if I win"
and supporters of his already began making plans of armed marches and rallies in support of him.
Is that any different than what the Opposition is doing? Not really, in fact it may be worse
>>711231709
When the candidate elect, is elected, and yours is not. You lost. This has nothing to do with a better world, just hurt feelings, just like from the start with Trump's haters.
You are assuming he's going to take away all of your faggy rights, which is hilarious. Proving the incompetence you have over the power of the President and and Trump's actual plans of action. Keep fear mongering though. It's fun to watch. Eventually all the Democrats will have felony records and wont be able to vote :)
>>711236454
with the tax break plan? Jesus man, do you not realize the less people to tax the less revenue the government gets?
I know people are wanting the atomic family again, I would also be more than happy seeing Eisenhower as president. The last great republican president.
>>711231588
The simple fact is that when the electoral college favors the unpopular candidate that democrats want, it's totally fine. But when the sides are flipped, it's corruption. See: the 2012 election.
>>711236608
just stay in the class, even if your teachers walked out.
grown people acting like spoiled children because they didn't get what they want shouldn't be humored or accommodated in any capacity.
>>711236506
Ding ding ding
>I believe in suspending your first amendment rights so I can exorcise mine
Liberal logic.
>>711230164
Its soft protest....for soft people. People should be lining up at their democratic offices asking what can I do to help. Do work, fix things, get the word out about politicians and change. Whining and baseless protest is weak.
>>711236706
Maybe not you, but Trump called for the same shit in 2012. >>711236584
And again started to set the stage for it this time. The majority of his people eat up all he says. So, yea
>>711230613
A minority of the eligible voters were able to get their candidate in. That's different than the majority electing him. The other 160 000 000 eligible voters either sat out or voted for Hillary. He's in because of a system rigged to favor small cities and rural centers. It's not the end of the world but it's not true democracy.
>>711236273
Just do like most Scandinavian countries and have a universal public healthcare system that is funded largely through taxation. There is a reason why we have better healthy people over here then i your shitty ass country.
>>711236536
Fair enough. I use liberal as an insult because most ideas that come from liberals are ideas made in ignorance. Most liberals have blinders that they use to ignore anything that stands up to reason or logic. They think everyone owes them something and that the world is a terrible mean place that is out to get them. Liberals also tend to be SJW's(nobody likes those) and the BLM types. Liberals are the type that come on /b/ to start furry and waifu threads. Liberals are a cancer. Liberalism in the sense that you are referring to is a good thing, but it's getting out of hand. Like you said, it seems broken now.
>>711236704
>implying there are jobs for every poor American in debt
>implying anyone will pay to train poor Americans than pay for machines and specialists
>implying every poor American lives in urban areas with lots of industry work
>>711236849
sauce?
Trump won, Hillary lost, not what I would have wanted but it's whatever. I'm going to be honest with all you all, this is how I see things are going to play out.
Let's say Trump does "drain the swamp" I see him just putting in and surrounding himself with people from that same swamp, people like Rudy guliani and New gingricht who are known faggots.
It looks like he's expected to put in 3-4 supreme court judges during his term(s) we can expect a regressive court for the next 3 decades. This is probably the only reason why I wanted Hillary, for the judges and for her to lose something so important for the democrats makes me chuckle a bit.
Because he has no experience in political matters whatsoever he's just going to be pushed around by Republicans who see him as a tool to write in legislation without any independent though to himself.
Its looking like republicans have a great chance to get a super majority in 2018 and at that point any regulation that protected anybody from some retarded shit is rip.
Trump better pray that the liberal judges in the court die during his first 3 years because the faggot Republicans set the stupidest precedent by cucking obama in a supreme court seat during his last year.
These are great times if you are a Republican but hopefully they don't get too lax, Obama had super majority during 2008 and a measly 8 years later the democrats got destroyed, the same exact thing could happen to republicans 8-10 years later.
While I'm a bit sad that Republican policies like Trickle-meme economics are coming at full force and regulations that actually helped people are going to be removed, common core being removed so hick-towns and backward religious areas being taught abstinence only education will flourish, maybe.. just maybe it would all be worth it if Trump gives the middle finger to Republicans and Democrats alike, having him have independent though so he avoids conservative echo chambers, term limits, it might actually be worth it.
>>711236930
but there are healthy americans, you do realize that
in fact, in terms of sheer number, there are probably many more healthy americans than healthy scandinavians, because our population is much higher
>>711236802
Romney lost both after final count.
>>711236707
True, but saying that I can tell from the way you talk wouldn't really make much sense.
>>711236849
<3
>exorcise
Shit I mean exercise.
>>711236742
you do realize you can still vote with a history in some states. Do you even look before you post? Or do you just ass u me?
>>711236802
HEY, the same goes for the OTHER way.
>>711231192
We should get rid of the Electoral College so the most popular populist can be elected every time.
>>711230164
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjuD6lZUU2A
>>711236256
this is one of the dumbest things ive read in a while
please god, no one else think like this man, he is a fool
>>711231980
>homophobic Nazis like you and the mainstream media.
holy fucking shit this bait is strong.
>>711236584
/thread
>>711237044
The important bit is who is healthier per capita, not just pure numbers
>>711237086
:( I'm too tired to /b/e on /b/.
>>711236998
I keep fucking up.
>>711236581
>Not buying cheap shit from Asia
>Increase American manufacturing
>Buy American made
>Help out our economy
I know what you're saying.
>>711236561
Except with ARs
>>711237044
republican logic "we have more healthy people than you because we have more people than you"
also you can say "we have more people not in jail than in iran or north korea"
>>711236997
There are. Labor Ready works. Day labor. Both of those offer SAME DAY jobs. You just show up at the office. They even pay you the same god damn day too. Temp agency's. Work full time at a fast food place they all offer health insurance.
You never had to adult before
>>711230164
It's a federalist republic, and dont let anyone tell you otherwise
>>711236823
So the Ukrainians at Euromaidan should not be respected?
or the Romanians in 1989 against Ceausescu?
>>711237179
but the problem with popular elections is that the masses can be easily manipulated
that was the original "purpose" of the republic, to have educated men rule justly in favor of the uneducated masses for the good of society
>>711237080
That's why [his] grammar and sentence structure aren't "liberal"... ?
>>711232060
>Democratic People's Republic of Korea
Best Korea is best.
Killing Harambe is one way to win a political election
>>711230164
first time in history people are protesting democracy in america. The youth scare the shit out of me little leftist fascists.
>>711236786
The government can fuck off for all i care...Eisenhower was a badass. He would never make it to president nowadays, but he was a good one.
>>711237260
True. And arguably would be more violent.
>>711237228
well i think thats debatable
in any case sheer numbers has its advantages
>>711237260
Hell if cuckton got elected we would be lucky to keep our ARs, nasty evil "black rifles", "assault weapons" that they are. Nice to see ammo prices drop.
>>711236096
No problem friend. Just remember not to stoop to the Alt-left's level of brush stroking huge portions of people for shit they don't understand. We're better than that.
>>711232081
>>711237333
Justified protests vs. Crybaby bullshit...
>>711231765
It looks like a piece of paper with the words "true democracy" written on it.
>>711237305
well. we DO have more healthy people than you, would you like to count them?
im not saying we are superior because of it, im just saying it IS indeed a fact
>>711237390
You ain't alone anon, you ain't alone.
>>711230164
==DONT GO TO SCHOOL THAN MUTHERFUCKER==
>>711237390
i'm guessing you forgot 2008 and beyond
also trump was not elected by a majority, when obama was. people have every right to protest this false democracy when twice in the last 16 years a republican was president without being elected by the people
>>711237044
There are allways healthy people in every country. Are you an idiot?
> there are probably many more healthy americans than healthy scandinavians, because our population is much higher
...and your point? Oh, there is no point. You just made statements that do not mean anything.
>>711237475
How is it "Crybaby" bullshit when the candidate who the majority of the populace elected is not given the presidency, but the runner up instead?
That is a tremendously flawed system, and need to be changed
>>711233822
>Still only 30% reported in Wisconsin
>>711237598
it was just on observation, there was no real point to what i said
i just wanted to point out a fact that i thought was interesting to the conversation
>>711236946
BLMs are annoying but the point that there is a difference in the way LEOs approach whites and black isn't in dispute. This week cops were attacked and killed by angry white guys but there was barely a ripple in the news. Worse than that most of the white guys were taken alive. So while BLM might be annoying the issue of how justice is applied isn't garbage
>>711236997
Once the wall is built there will be jobs everywhere...then the only problem is getting those without jobs off their asses to go get those jobs
>>711237590
Happened 4 times in the past 200 years
1876
1888
2000
2016
Theres obviously a problem, but its left there as it preserves the status quo
