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are the red ones the racist states of america?
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>>711173314
They're the ones with the least amount of collective intelligence and/or university degrees.
>be me, in Georgia
>not surprised my state is red
But, yes, plenty of bigotry in these red states.
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No, racism can be anywhere
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>>711173314
Nope
They're the ones that used kek power to help trump
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>>711173314
https://youtu.be/dfIgGz239Dg

these are the racists
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Short answer, yes
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>>711173455
This, pretty much.

>SCfag reporting

what's good, Georgia?
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>>711173314
The most racist states are the ones with the most mexicans and niggers. Except California which is an anomaly...
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The only racist state in the United States of America, is Washington DC.
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>>711173455
same, glad my county went blue though
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>>711173314
Only if you paint entire demographics with one broad brush. Which would make you kind of bigoted.
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The Red states are the ones you can run to when you just have to get away from the Niggers.
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>>711173728
I've been crying all day, but also applying for work overseas. Things have been pretty normal *for me* today, but then again, I've stayed away from any rural areas.

>>711173783
Please, just...tell me everything is going to be alright. I can't stop crying.
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>>711173972
not for you paco
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>>711174047
I'm not Latino American.
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>>711173972
but if your name is xin luh you gonna be fine
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All faggots move to California!! Thx!
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>>711174124
It isn't.
>who is that?
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>>711174086
you have such an identity based mindset

its just a name you fucking bigot
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>>711173314
Texas....yeah kind of.
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inb4 civil war
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>>711173314
Lived in Georgia and Tennessee
Tennesse full of racist rednecks
Georgia is entirely made up of black people, I swear to god, nothing but black people and koreans live in Georgia, I can't believe they would be racist, so no
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What about a state like Pennsylvania where for the that 30 years they have voted Democratic and now they are republican
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Name one law enforced in America that is racist.
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>>711173314
maybe we're just tired of the niggers, wetbacks, and kikes crying all the time. Great grandparents came over on the boat in the 1890's from ireland. Proud catholics treated worse than niggers and dogs...wage slaves for years. But nah coloreds are the only ones to suffer.
>No Blacks
>No Dogs
>No Irish
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>>711174261
actually black ppl are the most racist ppl of the states
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>>711173314
Nope, its where all the abandoned factories are with families of people too stupid to pick up skilled labor.

See the production based economy is dying, but they can't actually understand what a service based economy is, so it's easier to blame globalization and jobs going over seas.

So they voted in an Orangutan who promised to shot down international trade agreements, build walls to protect it for hte locals, and basically attempt to subsidies a dying economic model for the next 4-8 years while crippling a thriving model that has put us at the forefront of the service industry.

Basically a bunch of wheat crackers just stalled economic growth so we could pay for $1200 iPhones instead while the rest of the world moves on.
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Found the racist.
watch?v=9GHpX5kfZ1k

A 'whitelash'? Give me a fucking break.
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>>711174289
affirmative action
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>>711173314
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qAc4qWc7rU

First Britain
Second USA
Now EUROPA
THEN THE WORLD

We will destroy cuckoldry all around the world, we will kick their jew faces on the ground, we will masturbate at loli porn while they literally DIE when the right wing leaders get elected

MAGA! MEGA! MAKE EARTH GREAT AGAIN

ITS THE UNCUCKENING

ITS THE SINGULARITY
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>>711174252
okay.
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>>711173314
Mostly
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Get with the times - this is face of racism in the 21st century. It's black groups that shoot cops. It's people who view every issue as a racist crime against non-whites. It's people who think the American flag is racist. It's people who assume YOU must be racist because of the color of YOUR skin.
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>>711174423
/thread
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>>711174367
your great granpappy is a scumbag immigrant
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>>711173314
All the states are racist. The blue ones have the highest college education rates
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>>711173314
I think racism played a large role in determining the election. ... in 2012.

In 2016 almost half of the "racist" Republicans in the primary voted for minorities (Rubio, Cruz, and Carson).

In the 2012 election 97% off the black vote went to Obama.

So who's the racists
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>>711174423
Damn, I guess we are racist.
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https://youtu.be/TUyxiI-TY3c
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>>711174369
Black people are racist against who, white people? You can't say that though. It's impossible to be racist against whites, what with all their privilege and such ya know?
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>>711174426
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>>711173314
Yes, red = racist
blue = hypocrites
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>>711174504
and you're probably a mutt with no real heritage. or maybe just an autist edgelord.
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>>711173926
Not gonna react to this op? I thought my reply was pretty apt.
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>>711174367
So..... your grandparents were immigrants that came here for a better opportunity; so you vote for someone who wants to prevent immigrants from coming here....?
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>>711173314
Remind me who the minority candidate was again
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>>711174592
go to a back neighboorhood with a cartel saying all life is life no matter the color and see what you get
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>>711174697
that came legally. end of story. Didn't leach off of the system with expired work visas.
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>>711173314
The raciest.
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>>711174592
Didn't that koolaid taste odd to you when you drank it?
If all humans in the world are equal, they're equally able to be shitty people, like being a racist for example.
So either it's everyone is equal or black people can't be racist to white people, you get to choose one.
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Trump panders to stupid, and stupid is as stupid does, and most American generally rate as stupid, therefore trumps win was inevitable.
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>>711173314
bordering and east of the mississippi river that is true
but that is just coincidental as the strongest indicator of racism is proximity to niggers
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>>711173314
Yes so stay out fucking niggers
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Can't believe my state (PA) went red. Was not expecting it at all despite all the Trump signs around my somewhat rural area. But hey, that's democracy I guess
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>>711173455
A degree now could mean anything, such as a cultural studies degree or even a theatre degree. Why do you guys think this even remotely matters? FYI most college kids are out partying and drinking while getting some shitty degree, I dont know why this is a indication of being informed or smart.
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>>711175137
found the person who couldn't get into college
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>>711173314
thats where the straight people live.
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>>711173314
PA seems like an even mix, depending on where you are
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>>711173729
Because California is only Mexicans and niggers.
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I can't help wondering... were democrats misogynists when they chose a man over Hillary in 2008? Were they anti Semitic in 2016 with the way they treated Bernie Sanders? Are they homophobic for never nominating a homosexual? Why didn't Hillary pick a lesbian Vice President instead of another white guy?

I think the democrat party needs to do some real soul searching.
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>>711175137
Because it's one thing to just be in a university. It's another if you actually finish. In my experience, college has a way of changing a person--for better or worse.
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>>711174845
thats wrong because clinton pandered to dumb school drop out welfare niggers and trans mentally handicapped SJW's who dont contribute to society.
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>>711175199
its called America
some of these faggots should visit it some time
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>>711175316
Ladies and Gentlemen, Americas bright and shining future......
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>>711173314
the anti etablishment was strong with red.
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>>711175316
and how are you contributing from your parent's basement?
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>>711175193
I'm actually in my final year of my Mech engineering degree, have you even been to college and talked to anyone? I'd say 7 in 10 people were doing psych/sociology/cult etc.
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>>711174261
60 percent of voters in Georgia are white. It was 72 percent in 2000. 30 percent of Georgia is black people.
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>>711175581
Grow massive hydro buds, tax free $$$
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>>711173314
High correlation.
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>>711173314
The opposite. People who cannot stop talking about or cannot view anything without seeing race are racists.
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>>711175735
Hmph, a dope-dealer.
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>>711175207
Central PA is pretty bad
source: Lycoming County resident
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But on the plus side California, Nevada and Massachusetts voted to legalize recreational marijuana.
lol, it's a "fuck it" situation. If they couldn't beat Trump might as well smoke something that may help them forget.
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Got it backwards OP, they are the ones that arent.
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>>711174658
OP is buttmad CTR or SRS shitposter.
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>>711174626
GIVE ME MORE SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALT
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>>711176198
They don't have premade replies for "No you're the bigot"?
Fuck, no wonder they failed.
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So they voted in an Orangutan who promised to shot down international trade agreements, build walls to protect it for hte locals, and basically attempt to subsidies a dying economic model for the next 4-8 years while crippling a thriving model that has put us at the forefront of the service industry.

Basically a bunch of wheat crackers just stalled economic growth so we could pay for $1200 iPhones instead while the rest of the world moves on.

How in the fuck are we in economic growth? We are so in debt to China it is ridiculous. You sir, are an idiot.
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51 percent voted Trump and 45 percent Hillary. Just like Florida, Georgia was actually somewhat close to getting Hillary voted.
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>>711173314
>racist

I think you mean sexist, we already elected a black president.
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>>711176407
his legacy is skin, fag marriage and visiting hiroshima
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>>711173314
Every state is racist now. The red states don't talk about it or do anything, but the racism exists. The blue states have riots in the streets agains white people, beat up Trump supporters, etc. They're the ones that started the transgender bullshit.

California is by far the worst offender in the racism category.
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>>711175137
>A degree now could mean anything
>Doesn't have anything for a degree
You do realize how college works, right? Furthering your formal education will always lead to a healthier more intelligent nation
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>>711176407
Fucking dumbass. Since Obama's election the economy has been in its worse state since the 1940s. Besides I'd rather have an orangutan than a gorilla.
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>>711176341
They're really bad at this whole "influencing people on the internet" thing.
Shitposters on 4chan did it for free and now Trump is going to be president.
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>>711176867
proof? all major nonpartisan economists disagree
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>>711173972
Why the fuck are you crying?
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>>711173314
Sounds mighty racist of you. Since, you know.. most of those southern states have the highest density of black populations.
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>>711176780
Have fun with Gender Studies.
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>>711173314
>racist
Prepare to agree with Michael Moore.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKeYbEOSqYc
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>>711177131
there were no shitposts
only divine intervention
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>>711177275
I'm in mathematics and chemistry you simpleton
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>>711174426
>MEGA
I am okay with this.
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>>711173314
they're also the states with the most black people, go figure huh
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>>711174521
Why are liberals so bigoted about intelligence but so fast do defend uneducated black thugs?
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>>711177462
Forgive me if I don't believe you, lol.
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>>711177462
>simpleton
>forgets period, but capitalizes.
kek
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>>711175137
Still. It's the smart people who follow through on these things. Even if some of these degrees have a poor chance of a successful career. The stupid choice is to skip it. Even though there are exeptions ofcourse. I.E. successful people without degrees.
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>>711177131
You'd think someone as rich as the clinton family would have the sense to hire someone who knew about this stuff.
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>>711177214
I blame myself for this. I feel as though my latent misogynistic views toward women and complacency is what lead to this, and now, an unapologetic bigot, sexist, and so forth, is going to be used to 'represent' me as an American, and this country as a whole. The worst, least-educated group of angry people (mostly barely-educated men) got the 'voice' they didn't deserve. That, and the culture of violence which may ensue.

I'm saddened by this.
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>>711177541
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>>711177703
Back to Tumblr, sweetheart.
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Austin Texas should be blue, but yea, lots of racists.
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>>711173314
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>>711173314
Actually, judging by the responses of blue-staters, it's clearly the opposite.
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>>711173314
reds voted for a white guy.
blues voted for a white woman.

where does racism come into this?
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>>711173637
LEL! What a bunch of fucking pussies.
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>>711173314
California is racist as fuck. Niggers hate whites. Whites hate niggers. Hispanics hate niggers. Asians hate niggers.
It's pretty obvious everybody hates niggers.
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>>711173314
doesn't look so for me and fuck islam
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>>711177703
I genuinely think you should end your own life.
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>>711177902
I've been here since '06, but this election has taught me that I need to become an overall better person.
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fuck it ill post it here

voters vote for their party for their state. and that party selects an elector based on popular vote. BUT. the elector isnt bound by legal obligation to vote the majority vote of that state.
also these votes dont happen until december.

fucking WHAT???

read this shit

https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/about.html
and this
https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/electors.html#restrictions\

explain this shit right now somebody
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>>711177703
If you voted for Hillary, how are you responsible for other peoples actions?
Are you so far into this identity politics thing that they've managed to make you feel responsible for all the things you think are bad?
Snap out of it mate, you are only responsible for your own words and actions, don't let people convince you of otherwise.
I'm not a Trump supporter or a Hillary supporter, I'm just someone looking onto the shitfest. Heck I'm even far left and a self proclaimed anarchist and I think this intersectional identity stuff is bunk.
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>>711177673
Pride comes before the fall.
The Clintons and their globalist masters were very, very arrogant.
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>>711178176
Why does this not surprise me?
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>>711177275
I have 2 degrees and never took gender studies. None of that shit is forced on you.
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>>711173972
>"everyone around me is racist"
>doesn't actually engage in meaningful human contact with anyone around him to find out firsthand.
Whatever, kid.
Let us know if you ever decide to start going outside.
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>>711178275
then what are you waiting for?
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>>711178262
True, they've been acting like this was an insta-win from the start.
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>>711178245
I get it, and I understand where you're coming from. But here's the thing: I'm blamed for the actions of others who share my demographics, particularly the bad things they do; I have to take responsibility for other people's mis-steps, and I feel this result is...well, yeah, I'm part of why it happened. Subscribing to 'Red Pill Philosophy,' starting to hate women, etc I contributed to the problem. I feel bad, Anon, and I don't want to be that kind of person.

>>711178387
Migrating out.

>>711178353
I didn't say anything like that, and I'm far from a kid.
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>>711173314
the red ones are the practical ones, the blue ones have their heads in the clouds to a degree that would open us up to disaster unfortunately.
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>>711173314
Nah they just dont agree with a criminal, or are ironically picking him for the hell of it
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>>711178542
/thread
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>>711173314
Yes, and I will never live in one of them again.
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>>711178399
Checked. They can't fucking fathom how tired people are of their shit. This is why they lost.

Globalism will be nothing more than a footnote in history.
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>>711174388
Your fault for buying the iphone, get an android instead you entitled cunt
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>>711178542
facts! motherfucker. facts!
im tired of listening to all of you stupid fucks on both sides sit and name call like mindless children.
for your post in particular, a huge citation is needed for those claims.
tired of listening to opinion
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>>711173314
They have the most Electoral magic
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>>711178231
nobody?
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Not sure about others in my state, but I'm like 99% sure a lot of folks voted Trump because they were voting for NOT Clinton, because she's a fucking sneaky conniving whore.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ytv15ono5J0
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>>711178509
Uh no, how the heck are you to blame for other people in your demographic? You're you, not them.
Hating women was a bad call I guess, being annoyed at feminists would have been more correct. You seem to have swallowed the feminist=all women bunk, it's not true. Plenty of women are red pilled and just as annoyed as you.
Who has convinced you that you are your demographics keeper?
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>>711173455
This is the hypocritical tone that took me a while to figure out. It's the elitism of it that flies in the face of the supposed egalitarianism.

Racism is bad. It's wrong to look down on people as inferior, violent, & ignorant because their socio economic status is why they're behind in life.

Fuck those degenerate redneck trailer trash. They don't have a $30,000 degree. That's a valid metric of their inferiority.
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>>711179070
nothing. he probably just feels partly responsible.
you know.. guilty by association?
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>>711176436
A candidate losing by 6 percentage points isn't "close".
One point yes, 3 points kinda, but 6 is twice the amount of most polls' margins of error.
Any election pollster puts a result like that into the "solid win" category.
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>>711179070
>Who has convinced you that you are your demographics keeper?
Guess why I mentioned 'demographics' specifically, Anon.
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so now what will you do if you c a mexican?
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>>711173314
>asking if southern states are racist
>if gun loving, god worshiping texas is racist

c'mon
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>>711178783
All this palaver is why I believe that being a career politician shouldn't be allowed. It should be a civic duty like being part of a jury.
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>>711173314
What happens to the undecided states like Arizona, do they continue counting the votes?
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sup with Minnesota being Democrat, is it more sophisticated than neighboring states?
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>>711178995
And that's a good reason to give the presidency to a sociopathic Oompa Loompa?
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>>711173314
https://youtu.be/X3_qUDwF-Ns
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pretty much
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31 m tx. Not racist and my degree was more than 30k, feels bad man, voted for Gary Johnson in 2012 and 2016
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All of these liberals are fucking pissed off that Hillary ran a horrible campaign and lost to Donald Trump.

If you can't handle this, fucking leave, nobody wants you in this country except for other liberal idiots who don't give a fuck about this country either.

Good riddance.
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>>711179466
yeah but e-mails
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>>711179466
basically what you're trying to say is you feel the same way about trump
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>>711179184
You tell me, because to me it seems like you are taking responsibility for your entire country and unless your surname is Trump, I don't get it.
>>711179173
That is similar to original sin though, total bunk.
I'm a descendant of both slaves and slavers, but that doesn't mean I feel personal responsibility for the slaving or hatred of the descendants of the people who enslaved my ancestors. That's just stupid.
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>>711173455
did you cry?
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It's fucking shit having to live in faggy ass Washington state right now. I'm a white guy, and I get glares. All these retard minorities think they fucking own the place
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>>711179538
yeah but decreasing taxes for the rich.
yeah but hiring immigrants to work slave labor and build many of his businesses.
yeah but.. yeah...
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>>711179703
wait hold on...uh...e-mails or something
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>>711179090
ayy lmao, that's why they're dubbed >regressive left
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>>711173314
If you believe that everyone living in those states are racist, of even if everyone that voted trump is racist, you will have a hell of a life.
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>>711179643
I'm black, Anon.

>>711179667
Yes. Have been all day. Only stopped periodically when in public/class, but not so much when I'm alone (which has been, as usual, the majority of the day).
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>>711177703
Please kill yourself. It's what everyone in your life wants
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>>711173314
AZ isn't red.
>Your logic is flawed
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>>711179643
thats probably because what happened to your ancestors isnt something ongoing and changing america today.
you were born after all this am i right?
i feel like if it were a more current issue, to the degree that it was, you would feel the effects of it if you contributed to it in some distant but relative way even
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>>711173455
> Be me
> Live in Oklahoma
> Have College education
> Voted for Trump
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>>711179876
Not saying *everyone* who voted Trump isn't college-educated.
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>>711179876

are you me?
>tfw when all the right SQ's passed as well
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>>711174169
Traps specifically plz
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>>711179824
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>>711173314
No. They're ALL racist states. The red ones are just the MOST racist.
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>>711173455
What this really means is
>be me, gay man in Georgia
>get bullied for being a faggot
>voted dem now I'm mad

real snipe sully bud
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>>711179824
And I'm part black anon.
>>711179847
Well as a Dane that is true I guess.
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>>711178074
You forgot "Niggers hate Niggers" but it's understandable!
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>>711173455
sad but true
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didn't MI and AZ go red?
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>>711180213
>nj
>111
okay
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>>711179876
>Oklahoma
There it is.
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>>711173314
>in Florida
>red state
>hillary won 66% of my county
>voted hillary
>tfw im now a racist

Thanks for the generalization cuckmerica.
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>>711173455
Dubs speaks the truth.
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>>711180081
Yeah?

>>711180107
But I'm not gay. If anything, I was (mostly verbally) bullied for being 'suspected' of being gay.

>>711180119
I understand.
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>>711179876
>Have college education
>still think personal anecdotes mean anything to statistics
you're clearly dumb enough to be a Republican
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Only if all the blue states deleted 30,000 emails?
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>>711180369
I still think you should stop taking responsibility for other peoples actions. Unless you're in their brain, controlling their actions, you can't really take responsibility.
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OP is retarded for asking
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>>711178979
The real stuff tends to go unnoticed often.
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>>711180323
If you don't think Florida is racist, you should try stepping outside that county for once.

I have literally choked on my food listening to the casual racism that old people loudly and publicly proclaim in rural Florida. Seriously, they make the racist trolls here look like pussies.
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>>711180378
If you're so smart, how did you missed the part where Hillary was the most conservative candidate?
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>>711180562
around here it apparently does, yes.
just mindless banter and opinion so far
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>>711173314
You have to remember that the states are red and blue because of electoral college votes, not citizen votes.
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>>711180369
>But I'm not gay. If anything, I was (mostly verbally) bullied for being 'suspected' of being gay.
>'suspected' of being gay.
that means man the fuck up, or just hide at home for the rest of your life.
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What makes him a racist? Because he wants to deport illegal immigrants? Please explain.
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>>711180663
>how did you missed
I can only imagine that you were drooling a bit as you typed that out.
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>>711180544
I would love to, I really would, but I don't have that luxury. Such is one of the downsides of being a minority: when one or two of you messes up, you all just messed up, even if you purposely disassociate yourself from those who do.

>>711180762
I intend to move abroad, a plan that has been in the works since before the election. I've already lived abroad before (started university/college abroad), so now I'm trying to go for living and working permanently. Such is a decision independent of the election result.
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>>711173314
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>>711179824
Why?

What has Trump done or said about black people, how will trump effect you?


It won't, you've just been convinced by morons it will.

Look outside tomorrow.

Birds chirping.

Sun shining.
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>>711180378
Wow you've figured out why doctors are liberals and diesel mechanics are conservative. You're a fucking genius.
Any of this matter? About as successful as liberal policies I.e not one bit. He still won, considering the gray states weren't completely counted because of landslide victory it's likely trump actually won the popular vote too.
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>>711180887
you stupid fuck
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>>711180894
Dang I think my being Danish makes me unable to understand this stuff.
We have plenty of people here who are descendants of slaves and slavers, but much less of the stigma. What the hell did you guys do wrong over there?
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>>711180794
Just stop.
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>>711180794
you're mixing up cause and effect, common mistake

Trump's not really racist, he's classist, which is practically the same thing in America where race and class are conflated so closely. You can tell the difference because he actually doesn't give a fuck about anyone but himself, poor people in general are scum, regardless of race.

He just plays into the racist bit for votes, but he hates us all equally.
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>>711180959
That's what I keep telling myself. Truth be told, Obama generally didn't have any effect over my life, other than making me have to get healthcare (which worked out anyway).

My biggest fears are our relations with other countries (since I still intend to move abroad) and a spike in racial violence that may come as a result from this. Bear in mind, I live in a state with a high Klan and Neo-Nazist population.

I'm worried. I don't want to get hurt or hurt anyone else.

>>711181198
I wish I had enough time and space to tell you.
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>>711173314
The red ones have a lot of flyover territory.
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>>711180699
checked
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>>711180959
Trump's not in office yet, you dumb sack of shit.
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>>711181235
nice argument faggot
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>>711181247
Underrated post.
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Either b8 or actually retarded
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>>711181287
they also have more electoral votes than the blue ones funny enough
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>>711181581
you're just retarded bro
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>>711180213
you know those tests are tailored for people in those nice city areas right
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>>711181280
Could you try, with a short version or something?
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>>711181749
Honestly, even I can't really tell. But, here's a brief history of the U.S.
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>>711180213
>John McCain
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>>711173455
Crying bigotry and lack of intelligence is such a cop out.
It's just like completely dismissing everyone who doesn't agree with you, like you know what's best for everyone, and that's why you lost, because everyone fucking hates how dismissive you are.
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>>711180213
>>711173455
You realize southern states is where the majority of black people live in America, right?
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>>711181860
That is rather biased though, I mean I know all of those things happened, but whoever made it seem really judgy.
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>>711181280
How would you get hurt by someone who does not intend any violence against minorities and has never given that implication being in office?

How does this suddenly empower these groups? The only argument that he is "racist" comes from his anti-immigration stance, and the idea that you are racist for being against illegal immigration is just outright bullshit,

It is a completely legitimate stance.
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>>711179876
still a fucking retard. fuck off joe
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>>711182098
>This
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>>711173729
Don't kid yourself. California is racist as fuck.
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>>711182215
rightfully so.
im an american and im aware of our history. we raped and murdered for this land we call ours only some odd hundred years later.
vile fucking disease we all are. or were.
more a mixing pot these days.. BUT. i do wish these pictures were dated. hard to follow otherwise
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>>711182098
They won't learn.
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>>711173314
Not racist, just desperate. Although the former can lead to the latter.
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>>711182098
But is it not the least bit true?

>>711182212
Yes, but that would imply racism is one-way. You and I both know it isn't. That also doesn't explain why non-southern states are red.

>>711182215
Yeah, it's just a facetious post.

>>711182221
The Klan, for example, Anon. David Duke being ecstatic at the news of a Trump victory, and already hearing about some of my non-white and gay friends being verbally (and in one case, physically) assaulted by rightists.
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>>711173314
blue ones are the rasists.
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>>711182399
You say we like you were there. How old are you anon?
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>>711174783
>>711174836
Not him but you two really can't see that he was being facetious?
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>>711174367
>treated worse than niggers
You cannot seriously believe that.
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>>711173455
I have an MBA and I voted Trump.

Stay buttblasted with your liberal arts degree, faggot.
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>>711182692
Yeah, I did see that. Was feeling trolly when I responded.
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>>711182212
explain idaho, utah, wyoming, dakotas
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>>711173314
Hate to tell you, but racism is everywhere. It's just more submerged in some areas. Some people are racists, some aren't. It's not black and white racism, it's really shades of gray and the shade depends on the area and the individual.

Hard to think that people see things so absolute when reality is more abstract, but what is and has always been true to you isn't the same for your sibling, parent, neighbor, or friend. Isn't it about time we started looking at things as a complexity of things with variances in each subjective viewpoint rather than a easy divide of good and evil?
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>>711182901
Again, I didn't say *all* Trump-supporters were uneducated.
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>>711182553
only in my twenties. ive been with a native american girl for about 8 years now. even before that though, i did do my research.
you find out quickly the shit they showed you in the books at school, was an over glorified, , brainwashed, fraction version of events.
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>>711182221
>It is a completely legitimate stance.

When you start building walls to keep out immigrant populations that are already decreasing it's not so legitimate.

When you want to decrease perfectly legal immigration from an arbitrarily picked religious group it's definitely not legitimate.
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>>711182553
also im not proud of how i ended up in this land. how we all did.
to more directly answer your question
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>>711183184
Sure, but all of those things happened in the past. We're supposed to learn from it, not wallow in it.
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>>711183396
im not wallowing. but i certainly dont condone the actions our ancestors took.
calling them "savages" for not being "civilized" like they were. as they savagely raped and murdered them by the thousands. its inhuman and i for one will not be forgetting that chapter in america any time soon.
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>>711183574
I'm not asking you to forget it, but would it be too much to forgive it and focus on living together in the now?
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>>711180323
>>711180615

I live in New York and I hear racist shit constantly. It's everywhere. We've made very little progress on race relations since the 1970s, because republican dogwhistle tactics keep it alive and well as a political force
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>>711183782
certainly. learning from the past. progressing for a better future. i hear ya anon.
i think what gets me the most tbh, is how the majority of america waves around their little flag and pretends to be so patriotic and righteous. because they CHOOSE to ignore our history. pretend as though that never happened. and "our founding fathers.." etc etc. as though it was godly and good.
it just.. really grinds my gears
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>>711183782
Until the relevant institutions are fixed, yeah.
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>>711173314
Not necessarily. Honestly, you could write a book about all the various motivations going into this election.

There were people that genuinely supported Trump, Clinton, Johnson, Stein, etc. There were people that were voting for Trump just so that Clinton wouldn't win and vice versa. There were people that voted for Johnson or Stein because they couldn't tolerate voting for Trump or Clinton. There was probably a shitload of people who wrote in Bernie because fuck you.

Anyway, I don't think Trump won because Americans are a lot more racist than we thought, I think Hillary lost because she's Grandma Nixon and everybody knows she's full of shit. She's got all of Bill's sleaze and none of his charm.
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>>711175137
It's an indication of indoctrination. The education system in the US is designed to have a uniform structure since the Carter administration.

Poorly educate the under privileged, devalue the high school diploma/GED by promoting college, increase class disparity by offering money for colleges, and gradually set up a higher education structure that teaches the same rhetoric to all the students.
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>>711184403
i agree with this post
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>>711184181
I see this sentiment a lot, but all of the times I've visited the US, I've met people from many different states, who don't think America is all it's jacked up to be. It has it's good sides don't get me wrong, one of them being that a lot of people seem to know that god didn't just will it into existence and gave everyone ice cream and rainbows. Are you sure it's not just the political rhetoric and media you are annoyed at?
>>711184206
What needs to be done about them then? I'm not trying to be facetious, but you guys seem to be way too enmeshed in your past and holding a grudge against each other.
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>>711184838
>What needs to be done about them then?

Police unions should hold officers more accountable for misconduct, for-profit prisons should be abolished with more general prison reform focusing on rehabilitation, native sherrifs should be granted actual enforcement rights, the drug war should end.

You eliminate the poverty that lingers and the resentment will evaporate with it.
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>>711184403
I also agree.

That and the slander on both sides was so insane that it's impossible to tell what most of the ill informed public actually thinks.

Look at this thread and the riots, etc. People are actually protesting the Trump win on day 1, before a single policy has been enacted, based simply upon things that happened during the campaign.

How do you know he's the things that you're saying he is? He's not even president yet....
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>>711184838
...you're pretty quick anon.

i believe you may be right. too caught up in my own ramblings over recent politics. none of us here are directly responsible for what happened in the past. but most everyone here seems to have forgotten its happened at all. i suppose thats all that annoys me about that in particular.

honestly, if it were up to me though, id give the land back to the remaining natives. and force americans to flee the country and fend for themselves.
do unto others as.. scriptures.. some shit..

but currently, as you said, im sure im just annoyed more so because politics.
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>>711185346
Sounds reasonable. I hope it happens.
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>>711173314
Red=Republic
Blue=Communist
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>>711185563
See the issue I have with that sentiment is that you would be throwing out people who are now native to the country. Unless you have a time machine, you're going to be punishing people who had no active part in the past of your country.
Where would they go, would they have to go to the origin of their ancestors, what about people who are mixed to the point that they have 8 countries of origin?
It's original sin all over again and I thought most people were moving away from that sort of thinking.
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>>711185346
Nice thoughts...way more complicated than that.

Look at Baltimore...this city is totally fucked. It would take 200 years to fix the socio-economic problems that have ruined this town. You have ~1,000,000 people, 1 out of 20 does heroin, 45,000+ have HIV, another huge number have other disease and homeless/crazy.

The shear economic weight of the HEALTH problem of that portion of the population needing 24/7 medical care for the rest of their life is staggering. Not to mention the fact that even if you could wave a magic wand and make them all better, they still don't know how to read or write because they've done nothing but be homeless and sling crack/heroin since they were 12 years old.

Putting that kind of burden on a police force....you're asking them to do social work. That's not their job.
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>>711173314
BUTTHURT NIGGER ALERT
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>>711175708

Which still requires reading, learning, comprehension, research ability and required maths and science.

A sociology degree is more education than most redstate people will ever get.
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>>711186066
we threw out people native to this country. we slaughtered families. daugters raped in front of families to be murdered after. man, woman, child, massacred. the rest forced on whats now known as the trail of tears. many died of the cold. of disease. yet now, two generations or so later, we sit comfy under our pappa government. believing that we inherited or rightfully laid claim to this country. just because it was before. and just because many choose not to remember it now, doesnt mean that it never happened. in truth in this day and age. such drastic changes would leave many more bodies in its wake than the taking of america did. then again population has increased by the billions since then.
perhaps vengeance is the downfall to what i feel now. perhaps not.
truthishly ive never talked in such depth about how i feel with this particular subject. and im sure the drinks at this point arent helping either.

i guess tl;dr: would be. i dont care where we are now. we are building this nation on bloody soil. and deserve everything done to us, as we had once done to them
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>>711173314
no they are all racist, because trump used a magic ray to turn all the whites racist and homophobic over night.
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>>711186775
Where I live, it's not uncommon for there to probably be unmarked graves exactly where you sleep. Graves that were probably left unmarked in the last 400 years.

It really sinks in at night.
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>>711186892
was that last part a pun?
because while i would love to believe in spirits or an afterlife, logic tells me this cant be.
but yes where i live is barely an hour from the trail of tears. there are many graves along that path
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>>711187016
I guess it was unintentional.
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>>711186775
But isn't the majority consensus that all of those actions were abhorrent?
I get the rage at what happened in the past, but no matter what is done, that past won't be changed.
Adding more blood to the soil will not clean it, only make it sadder.
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>>711181860
tmw you completely forgot the korean war, aka the war we got our asses handed to us in and have swept under the rug out of pure shame
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>>711173314
minorities and faggot ass sjw libtards are the only racists i know of, the most discriminated group in america for a long while now is the straight white christian male
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>>711187410
for those who admit it? yes.
for the majority that wont give you the time of day to listen to it? no. they do not care in the slightest.
blood for blood. but i see your point. as said the drinks probably arent helping anymore.
its not as though i would be in that kind of position of power anyways. just venting probably.
>>711187214
no offense intended anon
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>>711173773

Underrated post
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>>711187947
Yeah...they don't call it
>The Forgotten War
for nothing. Still going on today, in fact.
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>>711179090
>socio economic status
Liberals are so fucking retarded.
Yeah because the chinese immigrants in the USA are doing so poorly right?
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>>711188036
Well you vent my friend, you seem like you need it.
I'm just looking forward to the day where we can all unload the baggage we have, see each other as humans and just live with each other, accepting differences and all.
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>>711173314
to put this in perspective almost all states would be red without the cities and almost all would be blue if not for the rural vote. So the whole red state vs blue state thing is not very relevant considering a fuck ton of states were almost tied this election. It only really shows that there is large disparity between urban and rural ideologies in the US.
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>>711188834
truth be told, in not such an overextended elaborate way, thats my perfect world too anon.
its a world we will not see for hundreds of years to come. humans just cant handle the idea.
i appreciate you anon. you picked me out of the crowed and allowed me to vent to you about an unrelated topic for a few posts now.
would have a beer with

also this for even more emphasis to my point.
gotta love tool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fj-10lIrboM
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>>711173314
Basically. If you're ever visiting america, steer clear of red states. This is where we keep our cancer.
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>>711188639
Shhhh, your only supposed to group minorities together to defend the cause of racism for liberals, not point out that there might be an ingrained culture that is preventing a certain group from seeking success outside of sports, drug dealing, or rapping.
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>>711189341
I don't listen to tool anymore, it reminds me of an ex and I don't need them feels right now, but it's a nice sentiment.
I don't really think the topic is unrelated though, it obviously plays a part in the political dynamic of your country. I see chats like these as ways to understand other places, one viewpoint at a time.
Would enjoy a beer with you too, but it would have to be microbrewed, the beers you guys mass produce are like having sex in a canoe.
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>>711189510
>Being this delusional and butthurt
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>>711189510
drown in piss you liberal faggot.
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>>711173455
You're an imbecile. Georgia was within 5% blue (making it basically a swing state), but that has nothing to do with how idiotic you are. Just because people don't have a degrees does not mean they have lower intrinsic collective intelligence. I too live in Georgia, and voted for Trump, and I'm perusing a degree in electrical engineering with minors in applied math and nuclear engineering. We're home to one of the greatest public universities in the world, Bell Laboratories, and a business capital of the US. If anything, the capacity to not accept other's political ideologies and make adaptations to your own is truly the root of political bigotry, and liberals are just as guilty as republicans in that regard.
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>>711189510
Wow you've transcended generalizing demographic groups and gone on to entire states.
You're two steps away from recommending to glass those areas.
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>>711189510
You're talking about the niggers right?
Republican is the cure not a symptom.

You find someone with a flu and you see he also has a flu vaccine in the their blood.
The vaccine isn't causing the flu, to was put there to prevent it, idiot.
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>>711190301
Okay Anon, I don't want to fight you. But mind you, there is a strong correlation between lower intelligence and bigoted attitudes.
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>>711190301
>Just because people don't have a degrees does not mean they have lower intrinsic collective intelligence.
are you denying they correlate?
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>>711190011
>like having sex in a canoe
kekd
music as well as scent, i believe, are the strongest pathways to memory. i can entirely understand.
but if youd like to elaborate, it may seem ignorant to you or other onlookers, but what exactly is "microbrew"? i know there are different types of beer. as well as home brews. not to even mention the types of liquor.
but ive had an interest and for some reason never educated myself on the varied types of beer.
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>>711173314
the smart states is what you mean to say. fucking cuck
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>>711173455
I LOOOVVEE when pretentious liberal faggots like you and booty blasted Seth Mcfarlane try to use name calling when things don't go your way. Calling the results 'a slim majority of idiots' is childish and shows that you think youre worth more than those people. Well guess what, you're not, and no degree in women's african-circle-drumming is going to make you better than them. Enjoy having no leg to stand on try not to cry too much.
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>>711173314
>ITT: people who don't actually live in the States
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>>711190576
...but I didn't call the results that. I don't think anyone in here did, in fact.
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>>711190502
>According to this study that I pulled from my ass
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>>711190502
We dont have to fight, man. Just wanted to point out that liberals can be (and are) just as bigoted as republicans....it has nothing to do with political affiliation. (Either way, political affiliation and polarization is bad.)
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>>711190576
>try to use name calling when things don't go your way
you mean like cuck, libtard, and niggerlover? Yes the Right-wing are soooo above name calling.
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>>711190576
>I LOOOVVEE
>faggots
>booty blasted
>name calling
>childish
>you think youre worth more than those people
>degrees in women's african-circle-drumming
>try not to cry too much
Alright, non-pretentious individual.
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>>711190517
>Are you asking smug rhetorical questions with no substance to your point?
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>>711190768
knowing that stupid white fucks who vote for a con man are stupid isn't bigotry.

It's ok though - dumb fucking rust belt shits deserve what they have coming to them. They had an opportunity to fix their shitty lives, and blew it.
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>>711173314
>tfw your state is blue

I wish it were red.
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>>711190768
Oh I know....I'm aware, and it's why I've spent all day just reflecting, and calling for non-violence (you know, between the crying and self-loathing). I just hope no one gets hurt; like Cap said, we're all 'on the same team' (Americans).

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go use the bathroom and play some Minecraft. Thread might be 404 by the time I get back.
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>>711190301
Yes I saw that Georgia was beating the Southern stereotype.

I'm from Wisconsin... what the hell happened? Oh, it was all the racist hicks out in the sticks that voted for "the Nuclear Option". and they're right, because they can't math that they'd still die from the nukes headed towards Minneapolis or Chicago.
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>>711190903
Why you taking shit too seriously? It sounds to me like somebody's mad...
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Texas voted red but the metro areas voted blue. My city had a lesbian mayor and now has a black man. Houston's pretty diverse, I'd say immune to much of what goes on outside.
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>>711190913
it's neither rhetorical or immaterial. Correlation may not be the same as causation but it does certainly give context.
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Nope, those are the trash ones.
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