Hillary is set to win the popular vote despite losing the presidency. How does it feel living in a country where the person who got second become president?
Better than living in a country with someone who has such shitty grammar.
remember Al gore?
>>711157858
Same thing happens in a lot of countries, troll
>>711158070
I remember.
Yet if the same thing happened to Trump you would turn a blind eye.
You lost the presidency cause we are tired of the PC thought police, and that's what really counts.
>>711157858
This is the same in Canada. Have you ever used google?
>>711157858
>>711157858
It would have happened to any Republican because of cuckifornia, dumbass. Keeps the 2 party system in check.
U do realise the vote count isnt finished yet?
>>711157858
Feels much better than living in a country where only the high-population centers have control of elections.
>>711157858
USA IS NOT A STATE OF THE PEOPLE.
United STATES of American is the union of the States. It's the State's VOTES that matter, now the people's votes.
If you can't graps this simple concept, you clearly has failed basic American history/politics.
>>711157858
without the electoral college it would disenfranchise most of america. the majority would be disenfranchised by the minority.
>>711157858
If it wasn't for the electoral college, people would only campaign in CA and maybe NY
Its set up this way for a reason. Sorry fag but those are the rules we play by
>>711157858
Damn good. How does it feel to live in a third world toilet?
>>711157858
The Founding Fathers made the Electoral College that way so that smaller states, which represent farmers and other societal suppliers, with a defense against possible tyranny by the urban population.
>>711157858
>babys first election
Happened in 2000 as well you cock gargling faggot
>Hillary is set to win the popular vote despite losing the presidency. How does it feel living in a country where the person who got second become president?
It's a Union of many, many states. If they went with raw numbers, it wouldn't be fair to most of them. I'm not even American and I know this.
Do you really think it would be a good idea to let California decide who is president every single election? One state? One state with literally some of the worst living conditions, crime problems and poverty in the entire country? They can't even take care of themselves and they should be allowed to decide the fate of the rest of the nation? Wise the fuck up, mate.
>>711157858
The electoral college hasn't actually voted yet. It's entirely possible that they will side with the popular vote. The electors cast their votes on the Monday after the second Wednesday in December.
>>711157858
I wonder how many illegals found a way to vote OP. Think it's over 100,000?
I don't feel bad at all because the only state she had a real lead on trump was in California, and I'll be damned if California decides every close election. Fuck those liberal sjw niggers
>>711158713
jessus you libs are the most ignorant fags on the planet. Hillary conceded the election its over. O V E R. deal with it.
>>711158732
would be easy in california the ballots are in spanish and english.
>>711158156
>we are tired of the PC thought police
translation:
>I'm a racist bigot misogynist sociopath and don't care for humanity
Talk about wearing your low intelligence on your sleeve.
>>711157858
I feel fine
>accept fate
>>711158821
https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/faq.html#concession
>What impact does a candidate’s concession speech have on the Electoral College process?
>None. A candidate’s concession speech does not impact the states’ duties and responsibilities related to the Electoral College system.
Dumbass.
>>711159004
It's called freedom of speech you doublefaggotnigger. Don't like it move to Germany.
>>711157858
a lot of other countries are the same dipshit, including europe where I'm from
>>711159099
and you think trump didnt win. dumbass.
Trump was the real popular vote, did you see the rallies and the epic may mays? Shes the popular vote for the mainstream media I guess.
>>711158673
>worst living conditions, crime problems and poverty in the entire country?
You've never been to Cali before, we are by far the richest state with the best living conditions. Sure there is crime but that's expected for any large population area. You must live in a rural podunk 2 horse town and drink moon shine.
>>711159195
Technically, no, he hasn't won yet. He lost the popular vote and the electoral college hasn't voted yet.
>>711157858
the margin is like 100-200k but not all the votes are in yet
dumbasses
>>711158070
Pepperidge Farm remembers.
>>711157858
the old bitch will never be president.
if she doesn't have a stroke soon, she will end up in jail where she belongs
>>711158173
Our system is different though, it's not 2 parties and there's more cooperation
>>711159004
translation:
>I can't suck up the fact the candidate I voted for lost because I'm a self centered piece of shit human being
Talk about being a fucking idiot
>>711158279
what he said.
>>711159110
Doesn't change the fact you sound like an inbred cleetus moron.
>>711159315
does not matter
she conceded
aka she dropped out
>>711159461
That's a lie. See: >>711159099
>>711159418
I'm not the one who thinks a retarded fat billionaire will save him from being a poor low educated sheeple.
>>711157858
sore losers
>>711157858
Cry liberal cry ur tears r delicious
>>711159004
No one on 4chan believes this. Pretty good bait though,
It would be interesting to see the electoral college elect Hillary in spite of election results.
Specifically, the Second Civil War would be interesting.
>>711158070
Member Chewbacca?
>>711159943
A bunch of triggered faggots
Vs
A bunch of faggots with trigger fingers
>>711158349
*graps. Skipping those English classes for "basic American history/politics" worked out well
>>711159798
>map of densely populated and more educated areas
vs
>rural areas with least educated
>>711159798
Nobody actually lives in Oklahoma
>>711159600
>furiously googles: What impact does a candidate’s concession speech have on the Electoral College process?
oh boy I got him now! he's going to be so buttflustered!
>thinks this has anything to do with the situation in this election. nice try google boy but you sound like a moron for even trying to compare this to that election.
Google kills critical thinking skills and it shows.
>>711159798
To be fair, that map makes it out to be more decisive than it actually was. A-lot of that red is empty space, and a-lot of the blue dots scattered through are major cities. It was much closer than this picture would suggest.
>inb4 shill
>I dislike them both but I found him to be the lesser of two evils. Couldn't vote for either of them. Abstained.
>>711160039
No, it would be a bunch of triggered faggots with trigger fingers vs the National Guard.
>>711158821
>most ignorant fags
>ignorant
>fags
>facepalm.jpg
>>711159912
No one believes what? In being a decent moral human being anymore?
>>711157981
>Not knowing English is a retarded language anyway
>>711157858
That's a bit like the party here who won 45% of the popular vote demanding 45% of the seats in the house. If they got 45% of the vote in each seat they'd have no seats at all.
>>711160126
>has no argument
>resorts to ad hominems
Typical deplorable.
>>711160250
>he called me a fag on 4chan. better quote him.
>>711159004
hehe, go on, keep thinking that little biatch, keep ignoring people and calling them names, then watch them vote for Trump.
I love how you idiots are actually surprised that calling people racist doesn't make them vote for you.
>>711160171
That's right. Triggered faggots can't be bothered to get off their fat asses.
>>711160250
>>711158821
>>711159798
HA. I'm from oklahoma.
Every county is red
>>711157858
dear blissfully dumbfucked:
what is tyranny of the majority?
gtfo:
cunts that can't understand the electoral college
cunts that want to abrogate the electoral college
fucking self-proclaimed intellects need to read for comprehension
>>711160265
>a decent human being
>...
>on /b/
>>711158563
and it's working fucking perfectly.
also, chelsea clinton has a great rack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXWtMCKUx84
>>711158378
And negative numbers are higher numbers than positive numbers. 2+2=$&#@dickbutt
The moon is cotton candy
And black people have white skin
You are retarded
>>711160321
you ignored the argument presented to you. I'll say it again this election is nothing like that one. not even close. learn what ad hominem is sure I called you a faggot but I also presented an argument.
>>711159110
Are you retarded or what? Germany got free speech. Only hate speech is forbidden...
>>711160380
Yeah sure and Keep on Dumbing down America, as if our country isn't already Dumb enough.
>>711160532
are you implying we should let 2 states decide whats best for the entire country?
>>711160042
Sick burn, yo.
Good considering my state shouldn't decide who wins based on a denser population. Californians are fucking communist idiots and I want to leave
>>711160488
Except you want /b/ to be mainstream society. You live in a bubble just like Trump.
>>711160537
>this election is nothing like that one
Nothing like what "one?" All I said is that the electoral college hasn't actually voted yet. That happens for every single presidential election. You do know what the electoral college is and how it works, right?
>>711157858
Romney had the popular vote too faggot
>>711160689
Your degenerate candidate won, why would you want to leave? He's going to make America Great Again for you. lmao
>>711160698
Exactly. I live on fucking /b/.
>>711159099
this is great
keep hope alive
good times lmao
>>711160709
the point of the entire argument is trump won the election or have you already forgotten? it is mathmatically impossible for hillary to win even if she gets every single state that hasnt been counted yet.
>>711160567
Hate speech in Germany includes complaining that Syrian immigrants raped your wife.
>>711160859
Hahahaha no surprises there.
Because all 50 states and all counties within those states should be treated as a single fucking district.
I hear Al Gore calling from the year 2000. He says "nobody cares".
>>711160113
Lost
>>711160817
that's not even close to true. Obama won by over 5 million votes
>>711157858
It feels really good to know the large, evil cities can't control every election. The rural areas have a vote that counts. The system works and showed it perfectly last night. Our founders were geniuses. How does it feel to live in a country that sucks?
>>711160966
Ok, so you don't know how the electoral college works. Here's a quick summary. Each state appoints a certain number of electors. These are the "electoral college votes" you see on each state on the maps on election night. On election night, we assume that all electors will vote according to their state's popular vote. But nothing constrains them to do this. It's rare, but electors can choose not to side with their state's popular vote.
So no, Trump hasn't won anything yet.
>>711160984
lol she probably consented to sex with them since you german males are fucking pervert sickos.
>>711161288
The Emprah protects
>>711160113
You think the black belt (the blue streak extending from Mississippi to Virginia) contains highly educated niggers or something?
>>711157858
the person who got second become president.
Electoral college votes will always be necessary as long as you only have 1/3 of your population voting.
>>711161275
Except you're wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUS9mM8Xbbw
>>711161302
/thread
Electoral college can still stump the trump.
Learn2Election
>>711161302
pretending to inform
narrates instead
>>711157858
Delegates my friend. That's how it works here.
>>711160984
Haha...no
I live in Germany, and as long as you dont say " Fucking syrian refugees raped my wife, I think we should gas all those lowlifes to get rid of this pest" you should be fine.
And tbh if you look at the official criminal data / reports published by the police , the crime in tearms of sexual assault is actually lower than 10 years ago. The "rapes" and this new years eve thing are blown waaay out of proportion by the media.
>>711161302
>thinking they are going to go against how the state voted this time not just once but at least 15 times to put Hillary into the presidency.
Its obvious you dont understand how the electoral college works at all. you need some real world knowledge this isnt a high school debate class.
>>711161434
>TIL the US has a black belt in stupid
>>711161575
learn2pretendbetter
>>711161302
What are you even trying to say? Are you in denial or are you just being pedantic?
>>711161398
Syrian rapes lack the class and subtleties of a fine German rape.
the same it did last time. Reform the rules for the election before one, not after it. Trump won fair and square, stop fucking crying and learn 2 deal.
>>711159004
>racist bigot misogynist sociopath
Remember back in the day when these memelord bait posts didnt get a single response?
>>711157858
The margin wasn't even that large and when you consider the amount of illegals that would have voted in Cali, it quickly dwindles away.
Trump won a rigged election. Eat it cuck.
>>711161674
More beheadings, less shitting in people's mouths?
>>711160118
wrong, theres actually like 12 of us here
>>711161818
for starters
>>711161398
I prefer to be a sicko rather than to be a conservative who only fucks for reproduction and even then only if both wear giant ass blankets that cover your whole body except for the genitals. And god forbid you have fun or do it in any position that isnt misionary.
>>711161616
>>711161657
>still not getting it
It isn't "15 times." Trump is at 290 electoral votes. This means 21 electors would have to decide that Trump is dangerous enough that they're willing to vote against their state's people to prevent him from being elected.
>>711157858
Ask that turncoat Bernie.
>>711160456
It was close Oklahoma city was blue most of the time
>>711159234
Because numbers and math are a conspiracy..., right???
Clinton won the popular vote (by quite a bit, actually).
Trump won the electoral college vote (by a lot).
The way the system is set up that means Trump won..., period.
Take your victory and be happy.
You do not need to embellish it with fantasy.
>Inb4: "We have a sweeping mandate from the American people.
>Oh wait..., Paul Ryan just said that a couple hours ago. Too late.
>>711158349
>It's the State's VOTES that matter, now the people's votes.
And its schools ensure that no one is educated enough to know how to spell, let alone understand what's going on.
>>711161302
quality of information provided in this post = posters dreams and opinions
>>711157858
Where you there as well to complain about this when your favorite candidate won?
>>711161980
Still can't tell if you're in denial or just want to explain that, in a very technical and theoretical sense, Trump hasn't won yet.
>>711161980
no youre not getting it. There has been only one case where 1 electoral vote went against a state to put a person into presidency. you are stupid if you think that will happen in the real world in this election.
>>711160164
another map for the liberals, yea its called city's full of illegals/non citizens
>>711161980
Not entirely impossible. Highly unlikely, but there was a lot of that talk before. I doubt they would since they don't want to hurt down the line votes.
Politicians worry about their ballot more than worry about who is president. Anything they don't like they'll gut or kill.
Unless Trump hurts midterms and the next election, he will be a harmless non starter while the house and Senate hold court.
>>711161302
You are mistaken in practice. Each state aside from Nebraska and Maine give their full vote count to the popular vote winner in that state, while Nebraska and Maine give 2 votes to the overall winner and one vote per winner in their congressional districts.
While there is no law stating the electoral votes have to go with the popular vote winner, it would be considered election tampering by the public to not do so and the electoral vote would be going against the majority of the state and congressional district.
It would be unethical to vote against the will of the constituency. There is 0% chance the electoral college will not vote in Trump.
The electoral collage skews the impact of any individual vote in an election
States with large population matter less then they should
States with low populations matter more then they should
It made sense when the fastest way to send somthing was via horse back but now it surves no justifiable purpose
Also it feels shitty...
>>711159004
Thread/
Literally this every trump supporter knows they are all these things but can't own up to it. The trolls that voted for him don't think it will effect them, the other ones are just stupid-tarded/rich-smart racist white people. This is the only truth and not a single trump supporter will be able to give a non hostile response or a well thought out explanation as to why this will be good for the country.
>>711162214
Not in denial at all. Simply stating how the election process works. I find it odd that so many people assume it's over today.
>>711162211
>>711162271
This is actual denial.
>>711161980
Hes going to win MI and AZ. He will end up over 300
>>711162378
>another map for the liberals, yea its called city's full of illegals/non citizens
If all it took were cities full of illegals, then Dems would sweep the south.
Waiting for reports of all the trump voters who committed voter fraud.
>>711162491
>definitely in denial.
>>711159004
>on 4chan
>calling people misogynist sociopaths like it's a bad thing.
Are you actually this retarded?
>>711162480
>good for the country
You're cute. This was an unambiguous "lesser of two evils" election.
>>711162480
>Thread/
see: irony
this type of self-proclaimed bullshit is why you fascist pieces of shit lost
>>711162421
Yep. It's not like there are people sitting around saying "hmm Trump won, but I'm going to change my vote". You'd have to change the rules in that state for how they allocate votes before the election.
>>711158156
>You lost the presidency cause we are tired of the PC thought police, and that's what really counts.
No, the left lost because they were so thoroughly convinced that Hillary could not lose that no one felt like they needed to bother to vote. They shot themselves in the foot, make no mistake about that.
>>711162646
I wouldn't say lesser. Just different kinds.
>>711161288
The Emprah Protects
>>711158070
Member when there were no Mexicans?
>>711162726
>make no mistake about that
dat evidence of disconnect
keep narrating
>>711162491
So you're just being pedantic. Go back to wikipedia or something.
>>711162118
The way California hands out driver's licenses, popular vote is now meaningless.
>>711162641
topkek
>>711157858
Was Shillary crying during her conceding speech because she will dead before she can be arrested?
>>711162970
precolumbian continent?
show us more facets of your cute fucktardation
>>711157858
>>711162726
I think us older folks just have hated Hillary for more decades.
I voted green, but everybody was tired of Hillary's shit.
Not many are disillusioned about Trump more than any other election where a side wins. Go look at third party numbers.
>>711162999
What are you on about
>>711157858
So salty, moar pls!
>>711160567
hate speech is all they want to say
>>711163311
I'm that anon and I also voted green. Not because I thought she'd win but to voice my discontent with the two party system.
>>711163042
You exemplify my point.
You won!!!
You can stop with the hyperbole now.
But you won't..., because you can't help yourself..., just like the new President-Elect.
Fuckin poofdah daffodils
>>711161398
>"im not a racist"
Says racist shit about germans
>>711161610
Leave it to the German guy to gas people.
>>711162726
I'm actually looking for voter turnout data and I don't see any evidence of Hillary supporters specifically not showing up to vote. All I'm finding is that voter turnout is up from 2012.
>>711162726
Yup. Hillary didn't get the lazy niggers off their couches in the way Obama was able to and she lost because of it.
Now you know why white people have a hard time counting on blacks for anything other than committing crime and filling our jails.
>>711158464
>f it wasn't for the electoral college, people would only campaign in CA and maybe NY
And the Left would be fine with that.
>why are "fly-over country" people allowed to vote anyway?
>>711163664
>takes things on /b/ seriously
Butthurt
Cheaters some times lose
>>711163727
I am german kek
>>711157858
Trump won the popular.
>>711163537
You're on 4chan, nigger. The way I see it, either party would be on here rubbing it in. Rubbing shit in people's faces is pretty standard on /b/.
>>711163919
well life is already a big fucking joke, so in conclusion /b/ must be serious
>>711157858
>implying the electoral college hasn't fucked the popular vote before
>implying ny & ca should determine the fate of 48 other states
>implying you're not some butt hurt $hillbot
>>711159761
>>711159418
in all fairness you're both a couple of faggots screaming over the internet, so shut the fuck up and make a goddamn change if you're so concerned. Get a rifle, find a perch and kill him if you feel so inclined, just quit being whiny faggots
>>711161610
>>711160358
Pretty sure he was just pointing out the irony of calling someone ignorant, and also a fag - a derogatory term used primarily by ignorant people.
Slay those straw men bro!
>>711163755
I was watching CNN earlier and John King specifically showed counties in battleground states where voter turnout for Obama was definitely stronger. Especially when it came to Wisconsin and Michigan.
>>711158464
If this is the purpose of the electoral college it fails spectacularly! There are 50 states and only the battleground ones need to be swayed so the only campaign there.
>>711164306
pretty sure youre a newfag.
WE DID IT /b/ -- BY ALL OF US WORKING TOGETHER!
>>711160689
>>711164425
I sure am. I sought political asylum here during the newfag migration of '06
>>711164348
True, but what system would include more voters apart from re drawing state lines?
>>711157858
>WAAAAAA MUH HILLARY WAAAAA!!
lol get over it cry babies
>>711157858
It would have been terrible if they had been campaigning for the popular vote and then told that the election was decided by the electoral vote. But they were campaigning for the electoral votes of the swing states.
PIC shows the 2004 campaign of candidate appearances and spending
>>711164287
top kek
>>711164308
The problem is that you can interpret that as disapproval for Hillary and would have rather not voted. You can also assume that they thought the race was in the bag and voting was unnecessary, but it's speculation. You can't know what goes on in the mind of voters. In the end, you can't speculate on what would have happened if people had voted differently or at all. A vote is a vote, and if you didn't vote, you didn't vote.
>>711157858
Dear OP,
Hillary called Trump and conceded. You do realize what this means, right?
It means that, after a chugging a handle of vodka, calling the doorman a "worthless nigger," setting fire to PEDOsta's curtains, beaverboarding some human trafficking victim to death, and crying herself into a seizure, that she had a sobering realization.
In the words of King Obama, "Deal with it."
>>711159004
translation:
>i don't agree with your opinions or freedom of speech so i'm going to project my own bigotry onto you while i shove this coke can sized dildo up my own ass
faggot
>>711159292
You are retarded. I've lived in California my whole life and the state is bankrupt to hell. LA is a poverty ridden shit hole, San Bernardino is a bankrupt Mexican shit hole, San Diego is so expensive people born there can't live there anymore, the only thing past Ventura is San Francisco which is more less just a place to visit. I'm guessing you're some silver spooned faggot whol lives in Coronado and thinks everyone in California lives like that or some minority who thinks LA or San Diego is the world but it isn't. The union would be better off if they let this sinking ship go.
unrelated rolling. don't mind me.
>>711164010
I full well expect that...., I've been here since 2006.
I would be disappointed the /b/ responded otherwise.
I'm talking about the /b/tards who still feel the need to spout all the crazy 'Infowars'/'WorldNetDaily' conspiracies along with reality-free mathematics
in the wake of their clear electoral victory.
>>711160113
>educated jigs in the southeast and spics in the south west
>>711157858
>>711157858
It feels fucking good man.
At least we don't live in that shit hole Russia. The Russians deserve their fixed election and that cuck Putin.
>>711164465
Working together
and
Stronger without "her".
>>711164727
That's it in a nutshell.
>>711157858
Can someone remind me if denial is the first stage of grief? I thought it was the quivering of the lower lip, but I didn't take the lib arts route in school.
>>711164831
exactly!!!
they won so they're entitled to gloat.
continuing to bring all the cra-cra is just redundant at this point.
>>711162491
Jesus christ this guy is retarded
>>711164348
Well, that's what Hillary thought and it bit her square in the ass.
She thought she had Wisconsin and Michigan locked up and didn't put a lot of effort into those states.
It backfired.
Trump on the other hand strategically went hard in the rust belt and was able to steal those states away.
Wisconsin, Michigan, were not supposed to be battleground states for the Dems.
>>711157858
The world is stronger without her.
Also, you won't be paid for your last two weeks of work. Sorry.
>>711165158
>can't accept reality
>>711161610
Leave it to the German guy to gas people.
>>711164649
I would have to calculate it, but any system that represents the will of some people (people in states with 3 or 4 electoral votes) disproportionately is flawed in my opinion. Mathematically you could win the US presidential ellections with around 25% of the vote (if only two candidates run in the small states, and you just win with around 50%+1 vote). Off course it's highly unlikely in real life.
>>711161610
Nobody is gonna believe any of your "Official Data" You and Sweden both lie and put people into positions where they wouldn't or couldn't report crime. Your countries are trying so desperately to not look like cesspools of the modern world and are failing on an almost biblical scale.
>>711165383
Ok, but until we find a better system we should use this one. A popular vote would not be an improvement
>>711165161
I'd go so far as to say that Trump's campaign this time started with the Rust Belt. The entire "Make America Great Again" slogan started with an appeal specifically to the rust belt. It's the secret sauce that made him win this round. He tried to campaign in previous elections but didn't have the right thing nailed down.
>>711165161
Her pollsters and campaign managers were jackasses if that is true. I'm not a US citizen, so I didn't follow the individual state campaigns
>>711164831
Given the "Daily Reminder Hillary Will Win." shit postings that have gone unabated since last year, you fuckers are ripe for the salt mining.
Crow is on the menu, bon apetit.
Also? Trump was beyond gracious and humble in his acceptance. Because you cannot and will not respond in kind, you can deal with HIS online shit brigade now.
Again, Bon Apetit, pussies.
>>711157858
>being this politically retarded
>>711165884
kek'd
also:
>being OP
>>711164727
>Hillary called Trump and conceded
I don't think that actually means anything though does it? Like if it turned out they'd miscounted the electoral college... right?
It seems that winning the popular vote means nothing if she's lost the electoral college.
I don't see what her conceding has to do with anything, given it seems that wouldn't deny her the presidency if it turned out she won... Or could she still have won somehow just with the popular vote if she hadn't conceded?
>non American here
Hillary lost because of the fallout from Ghostbusters
That's right. Ghostbusters was so bad, it cost someone the presidency
>>711165314
says the guy that said this shit.
>>711158713
>>711165383
A lot of people view the US as one giant district, but the states really have different interests from each other. If you compare the US to the EU, where each member is a country, the smaller countries wouldn't want to be in a union that consistently got out represented by the more populated ones.
Each state needs representation regardless of population, otherwise there's no point in being in the union.
>>711165682
It is because those states are full of labor unions in almost every job sector, and the unions traditionally always vote democrat. They broke much more for Trump this time because of the things he said in his campaign. The polls just missed it or did not poll them well and assumed they would go democrat like they always have since 1988.
>>711165989
Do you have an internal or external locus of control?
>>711165982
>non American here
Thankfully
>>711165589
It would fix the proportionality problem at least. Bit it would certainly create new ones.
Other than that US politics is a fucked up thing... The third of congress denies science. US libs are crazy about geting offended. And bipartisanship is nearly non-existent.
>>711166067
It's true. Welcome to US presidential elections.
>>711166159
Could you maybe explain this aspect of your convoluted political system to me? I'm just asking ffs...
>>711166075
For that you have the Senate, don't you?
>>711157858
She didn't win the popular vote
>>711157858
um, because it's the law fucktard? Pray tell what form of democracy do you live in? My guess is you are a shitholeistaner
>>711166249
States have to have representation though, not just California and New York
>>711166134
I bet the DNC conspiracy against Sanders didn't help either.
>>711165982
Sorry m8, but it's over. I'm on the winning side and NOT gloating, but yeah, that means it's done.
Popularity is not and should not be the determining factor in the US. High population densities in brain washed/hive-minded districts and cities would have us all fapping to pictures of Stalin and Maya Angelou.
If California, New York, and Florida decided most of an election, how fucked would that be for the other 47 states and the commonwealths?
Also, you don't see what her conceding has to do with anything?
If b8, fuck you, but I'll answer the question.
She ADMITTED DEFEAT.
That is what "conceding" means in English. She's done, it's over, no recount, no shit.
She's gonna scurry back under her rock and wait another thousand years to be crowned emperor of shit, filth, greed, and lies.
I'm VERY sorry that Donald Trump was a better guy because it's not far off from electing a Kartrashian, but c'mon man. He might just be the fresh air the US and its subordinates/overlords need!
>>711166530
ya that too
But seriously, watch this for why Trump won Michigan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKeYbEOSqYc
>>711159315
>IMPLYING that hillary won the popular vote of ANY state Trump had won
>Implying electorates in some bumfuck state would change their vote because the national amount was higher.
Nigga you what? electorates are elected, AND VOTE, based on the results of the popular vote IN THEIR OWN STATE! GAME'S OVER, LIBTARD CHILDREN! TIME TO GROW UP AND REALIZE THAT THIS IS THE WORLD YOU LIVE IN, AND THESE ARE THE GOD DAMNED RULES!
>>711166343
Yes, the senate was designed specifically so that states had equal representation. You also have the house, which is proportional to population.
This is actually where the number of electoral college votes comes from: the number in the senate plus the number in the house. So the fact that this non-proportional representation is reflected in the electoral college is a reflection of the congress itself.
The president is not technically a popularity contest and never was. It just so happens that all 50 states allocate their electoral votes according to popular majority in that state.
>>711166328
I guess as simple as possible...
Each state in the union is given a number of votes based on population. A majority vote in one state by the individual voter "wins" all of the electoral votes. Each state is all or nothing for a candidate.
The reason for the electoral vote is to properly represent the states rather than the people. As you can see the majority of people voted for Clinton but the majority of states voted for Trump.
Off the top of my head 2/3 of the states voted for Trump. If the majority personal vote decided then 2/3 of the states would not be represented appropriately base on their majority vote.
>>711166439
That's around 45 million people total, not that much realy. Texas is 28. And there are republicans in the ones you mentioned who are not represented realy.
>>711166317
its may be possible but the odds of it happening are basically non existent.
>>711166617
I wish to amend my post.
HE's not "not far off from electing a Kartrashian," because there are still the lohans, hiltons, and disney child stars of the world to insulate him from descending into that realm of shit and villainy.
I only meant this: There could always be someone better, but he's by far the most trustworthy and credible person on the ticket.
Gotta roll with the punches.
Seriously try and be open minded and optimistic.
Other people have progressive and innovative ideas too, even if they're not from the "progressive" party.
Chin up, lad!
This could turn into something great if we all have the right attitude! :)
>>711166848
Thanks. Will watch tomorrow. Now I have to sleep. Civil law test tomorrow afternoon.
>>711167069
I should add that Maine and Nebraska are slightly different from the other 48. Still based on popularity, but in a district way that could theoretically split their votes.
>Idiots think popular vote actually matters
I bet you live in the big city that actually has a say right? Not the suburb that is still fairly represented due to NOT using popular vote
>>711159004
Kys.
>>711167136
Isn't there some 36 Million in Cali alone?
>>711167285
You will forget
>>711165766
This. Libtards can eat shit and die. With emphasis on dying.
>>711167097
Actually, it's even more complicated. If almost all states did not use FPTP (the winner takes all) but allocated electoral votes proportionally (which would better represent the state's population), Clinton would have won.
>>711167069
I know. But maybe we should not use the old systems designed to hold back the unwashed masses in the XXI-th century.
>>711160113
>more educated
Fucking what
>>711158378
What the hell?
>>711158156
shopped
>>711158732
Illegal here. Love nothing more than voting.
>>711167097
I already understood all of that. What I don't quite understand is where this debate is coming from. From my understanding:
>Popular vote doesn't mean shit compared to electoral college
>conceding on election night doesn't mean shit - it's just about getting on with it. If it turned out she DID win the electoral college somehow (like some sort of miscount error) she would be president.
What am I missing? It seems the popular vote and Hilary conceding don't mean anything if it's just all about the electoral college.
>>711167349
Half of the population of the suburbs are not better represented due to FPTP.
>>711162480
It's actually been presented a couple times in this very thread, you intolerant, ignorant, aids infected cumshot loser.
>>711157858
>WHAT IS THE ELECTORAL FUCKING COLLEGE
>>711167747
meaning only 3 states would matter. the rest wouldnt have a voice.
>>711159004
Trump will singlehandedly end PC culture. He'll make people stop being offended as to not offend the people who get their panties in a twist over people who get offended.
>>711167502
65 I miss typed, around 20% of the population.
>>711158301
you are literally the only person still counting so just shut up
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>>711167655
I don't really see how anything has changed recently. The entire point of the United States is that each state has representation. If you don't want states and would rather have one state with provinces, I suggest the form of government in a Commonwealth country.
>>711157858
I thought I'd be more upset. I'm not happy Trump won, but I'm delighted Shillary lost.
>>711157858
There was so much voter fruad to get Hillary elected I was sure she was going to "win" popular vote.
>>711157858
>>711167575
mahnig.jpg
Never forget their arrogance or their hypocrisy.
Shitpost every day from now until Trump gets #4MOARYEARS in 2020!
Fight the good fight.
>>711167985
The president doesn't decide shit about popular culture. This stupid PC shit is going to continue.
>>711158378
Agreed. I live on best coast and we would literally sway all politics for the entire nation if it was by popular vote. We are all very diverse and live in completely different enviornments and live unique life styles.
Shillary bought the election and the media but she still got rekt. :^) Trump MAGA!
>>711168049
kek'd way harder than I should've
reminded me of old ass dave grohl "Da best" posts.
some anon be kind enough to merge this post with that one?
i'd be grateful (sorry, mobile fgt nao)
>>711158378
This all the way. Without an electoral college of many smaller elections, the minority, in this case the majority, would always win. And then where would we be. How else can the smaller majority defend itself but in these deeply rooted traditions of are nation. Yes equality, but freedom isn't free.
>>711163755
2008: Obama, ~69m, McCain, ~60m
2012: Obama, ~66m, Romney, ~61m
2016: Clinton, ~59m, Trump, ~59m
Voter turnout is not up. It's down. The DNC lost because they did not hold onto the lead they had the last two election cycles. The RNC literally did nothing but maintain.
>>711168194
He's actually the openly bigoted president the self entitled social justice warriors have been waiting for.
You guys have no idea what's about to happen to your country lmao
>>711168057
Well, maybe electoral votes should not be allocated by winner takes all but proportionally in each state. It would make better representation while keeping these state rights.
>>711159413
Its because Canada is still 80% white, not that divided by race yet.
>>711167596
But its even more complicated than that, and I don't mean to be condescending.
Even though the United States of American has a very strong central government it has always been strongly debated since this country's inception that each state should be able to govern themselves based on their own majority.
Even if there is less than 1% difference between or even 1 vote difference in a state's majority the individual state needs to be represented as such federally because federal influence on the states ability to govern is also in play.
Since the SCOTUS is considered the supreme decision making influence for the law of the land regardless of a states individual rights it is in the best interest of a state to be properly represented federally.
Complicated as complicated gets.
>>711168406
What? An sjw tries to go slap happy on a white male who puts a bullet through a sjw throat in self defense?
Fucking fine by me. You act like there aren't some people that actually want to see bodies start falling. Ignore the edge, puhlease
>>711159315
oh no. what now. better text trump.
>"wait u dident won yet wait pls"
>>711168406
Very probably, Trump won't keep his promises. Because he never did in his businesses. Poor bastards who voted him. Thinking he would actually change anything.
>>711168406
>wishful thinking at its silliest.
i bid you good day sir.
ps:get back to me in 4 years when america is closer to solvency and unity and tell me more about how the Great Obama achieved it all.
also inb4 you faggots blame Trump for shit Obama did. I've no doubt the world has 4 years of that whiny "Bush's fault" type bullshit to look forward to.
Look into self-termination. It does wonders for the economy AND the ecosystem.
>>711168647
>America
>bodies start falling
>implying they are not already falling
>>711162480
>not a single trump supporter will be able to give a non hostile response
>>711167926
>you intolerant, ignorant, aids infected cumshot loser
Strong argument bro...
>>711168472
I guess that's up to each state to decide. I kind of like the Maine/Nebraska way of doing it, where it's not necessarily winner take all.
>>711168828
Didn't say my argument was... said others were.... not really sharp on the whole reading comprehension are you? Go figure.
>>711168647
>sjw tries to go slap happy
You don't understand how SJWs fight do you? You're country is about to rot from the inside out.
>>711160118
I live here. I have nobody but I do.
>>711158337
so it's not a majority that counts
>>711166439
If only California and New York were represented, we'd have better politicians.
>>711158378
omg....u are so fuckimg stupid. kys
>>711168635
This is true only under one of the following:
1. the state has only one representative (not the case for electorals)
2. other states use FPTP (this can be solved, but obviously won't be addressed by Trump)
>>711168797
Mate I wasn't being wishful. Your country is about to tear apart at the seams. I'm not a fan of Obama either. His loose as fuck drone policy is a disaster - and now he's just handed that over to Trump lmao
>>711169204
>wtf I hate elections now!
>>711157858
>Wins 30/50 States
>Second
Retards actually believe this
>>711167985
>thinking being PC as you call it is being forced on you instead of realizing you're a mentally ill degenerate
>>711158563
no it was set up for slave states to count niggers at 2/3 of the population since they could not vote
>>711169004
I should have stated more clearly that you just weakened the position you were defending by being exactly who that guy wants to imagine all Trump supporters are.
Ya know we wouldnt be in this mess if we had the popular vote. The voting rules need to be updated....
/// Fags...
Am i 4chan ing it right?
>>711158563
The Electoral college is still based on population, otherwise why would alaska only have 3 votes that have never mattered.
>>711168934
The issue is, any state that does FPTP has stronger representation as a whole. That does not incite states to change their system unless all do it.
>>711160113
>implying a college degree is anything more than leftist shit-tier indoctrination.
Everyone outside of STEM is partially tainted, but even half of the lib arts crowd can identify shit when they smell it.
Their choice was Sanders and $hillary's endless corruption and fuckery screwed your entire base. Fuck your shitty argument. Go use your tears as lube and fap to the soon-distant memory of the shitopia you and your commrades almost forced on 60+% of the population.
Oh yeah! You didn't hear, huh!? Turns out there ARE blacks and mexicans and asians and eskimos who ACTUALLY FUCKING THINK FOR THEMSELVES.
Your old ways and patently false narrative are dying.
The house is burning and collapsing around you.
Seek shelter.
Welcome to The New America.
Get with the program or delete yourself.
>>711158673
haha.....it's a total vote fuckwad. California would not elect the president and actually it would help California republicans actually cast a vote that matters for once......yes there are a ton of dirt bag repubs I'm cali. Damn you're dumb
>>711169472
Don't care. Others can be cordial to the lessers. I don't respect libtards, sorry to upset you so.
>>711160358
>he exposed my hypocrisy and innate bigotry, better deflect with may may arrows
even fish in a barrel aren't this easy.
>>711167913
The colleges will normally just vote for whoever wins their state, so its not a big deal
>>711168761
you must be the same cuck who said he will drop out after the leaked audio recording
>>711158464
This all states have different beliefs
>>711168370
Sad truth right here.
All they needed to do was rerun 2012 turnout. Clinton was a terrible, uninspiring candidate, and they ran a boring, meaningless campaign.
>>711158713
Actually. Only about half the states don't have laws against unfaithful electors. So as of right now, Trump is 100% the next president
>>711169251
1. A state can't have only one rep because it would not be represented proportionately to the union.
2. FPTP on a state level would be a disaster if that is what you a referring to. 49 states would be governed by who ever New York or California voted for, unless I'm not understanding you correctly.
>>711169005
I do understand how they fight. Lacking self control, they are likely to publicly attack when triggered in the form of womanly slaps. I know you are implying lawsuits but they don't have the patience or intelligence to keep that shit up.
>>711167349
If the electoral collage didnt exist everyones vote would be equally important.
One person one vote
Doesn't matter where they live
Who ever has the most total votes , wins!
Simple
>>711169702
You haven't upset me. I just like pointing out when people are shooting themselves in the foot.
The fact that you simply don't care says it all though.
>>711169581
That's true. If you split the vote by district, you're weakening the state's representation as a whole. the Maine/Nebraska system might not scale well in places with, say,15+ votes.
There are only 21 States that do not have laws in place that state the electorals MUST vote for the popular vote of THEIR OWN STATE. Those 21 States are all liberal anyways, and would not affect this election.
>>711170055
but farmers are more important their votes should count more right?
BEWARE, This is the fuck who would shutdown the internet because one of you fags decide to post to his twitter,. you had the worlds best cringe store now he will be the worlds biggest violent joke.
I don't get it I thought the election is rigged?
>>711169601
Well you obviously don't have a college degree if you think it means nothing. I dare you to try to educate your self instead of being a lazy moron spouting republican radio. And yes I'm an independent thinking minority, I understand my opinion means nothing to you and you'll just shit on me for having one. This isn't nazi germany, your pathetic president elect isn't going to get me deported because I'm an American citizen first before anything else.
>>711169855
lol that's still not answering my question.
There's no chance of being president without the electoral college, right? Conceding on election night would be over-ruled if it somehow turned out Hilary won the electoral college, right?
So what does Hilary having the popular vote but conceding on election night have to do with anything? It seems those two things are completely irrelevant and don't impact on the electoral college - which is what decides who won.
I must be missing something...
