Who would've won if there was no high ground?
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Who would've won if there was no high ground?
>>710565099
Obi Wan, because even in absense of high ground he can win.
he killed Maul...
>>710566317
From Obi-Wan's point of view, he had the high ground.
>>710566317
You can't compare Anakin from the past to Anakin then.
Anakin was much more powerful and determined, even if it was for the wrong cause. If Obi Wan never took the high ground he would've been overpowered.
>>710565099
Anakin would have destroyed him
>>710565099
>Implying Vader didn't ultimately kill Obi-Wan
Its all about the waiting game m8, even if you lose all your limbs, wife and children along the way. Anakin is a sharp motherfucker, planning in the long term.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-rP5iqx6T8
>>710566317
Darth Maul, the illegitimate apprentice who was never a Sith Lord and expected to have an average connection with the force in the EU. Who gives a shit. The only reason Qui-Gon was killed because it mirrored the themes of A New Hope.
>>710565099
Pay attention to the fight.
Through out it Anakin is pushing Obi-Wan up against a wall, Obi-Wan has an excellent defense too, as he was able to hold off Grievous which in itself is an impressive feat.
Though, Anakin had just become too powerful. As he was even able to out duel Count Dooku which was a very skilled duelist, even considered one of the best of his time.
Though, in terms of experience and paying attention to your surroundings, Obi-Wan takes the cake compared to Anakin. He relied on brute force while Obi-Wan used his head and it payed off.
A 1 on 1 duel? Anakin would most likely win.
>>710567246
>total disregard of the original trilogy
sure
>>710567546
this
>>710567246
I would like to see an alternate timeline of movies on this ending.
Even masters such as Mace Windu acknowledged Kenobi’s prowess with this form; indeed Windu once claimed that Kenobi was not a master of Soresu but the master of Soresu.
That is exactly what happened in the Duel on Mustafar. Kenobi was trying to reason with his old friend. He used the terrain to put himself in a situation where he could negotiate with him, but Vader was too angry to even think about it. All he wanted was to kill him and show him the extent and superiority of his new powers. He threatened Kenobi’s life with his last move, so Obi-Wan chose to use this mistake to disarm him completely:
Perched on a rise above the lava river, Kenobi warned Vader not to attack, but the Sith Lord ignored him, blinded by arrogance and rage. As Vader leapt at Kenobi, blade angled for the kill, he left himself open, allowing Kenobi to execute a vicious Mou kei finishing move, dismembering Vader with one swift strike. Vader’s left arm and both of his legs were severed. Dropping his lightsaber, Vader rolled to the brink of the lava river.
>>710568695
3
down vote
This Duel is a Direct contrast to Maul and OBI-WAN. Obi was famous for slaying the only known Sith and the move he made would have been the talk of the Saber-Town. Obi briefly turned to the Dark-Side after his Masters Death to Leap over Maul and Slice him (once and only once). When he said "do not Try it" he was referring to Vader to not try my own move on me. Maul did not see it coming but Obi certainly did. Vader was trying that move and was going to slice OBI WAN in half. He knew Obi Wan went to the Dark-Side that one time and thought he could pull it off. Obi-Wan was not goading him he truly meant "do not try my Move". So the Irony is OBI-WANs duel with Maul caused Vader to try something he was to blind to avoid. His destiny.
Anakin was a better swordsman but obi wan had trust in the force which would cause him to win. Just like when he fought general grievous
>>710568695
>>710568892
this is why people hate SW fans..
>>710566688
>>710567268
bla bla bla
it´s fiction faggots, who fucking cares? there is no reason for all of that shit, it´s a movie, get over it.
>>710565099
obi wan, they'd already made all the other movies and it wouldn't make sense if annie won
>>710565099
Obi Wan would've won regardless
>>710567268
Darth Maul was basically a rabid dog assassin raised by palpatine and plagueis from a child.
He was average in "mind-fuckery" force powers, like influence and illusions, but he was a beast at combat (force-speed, force-strength, telekenesis, etc.). He was mostly trained just to be a bad-ass swordsman.
He wasn't meant to actually be an apprentice, he was literally just a killing machine. You're gonna bash him for losing in a 2v1 against fucking Obi Wan and Qui Gon? Please, dude.
>>710567546
I get what you're saying, but Obi Wan would still win. In the end, it's all about experience. Obi Wan got the high ground in the first place because he knew exactly what he was doing. Foresight and anticipation through experience. If there wasn't any high ground, he still would've found another way to win.
>>710569104
I think this stuff is pretty cool.
Because if he'd won, that would be the weirdest ending ever.
>>710565099
Obi won. Hands down.
>Anakin was out of control
>>710565099
Nobody, it was a dance not a fight
0
down vote
Obi-wan was simply a better Jedi than Skywalker, he was more in-tune with the force. Obi- wan was under rated and if things had gone differently for the Jedi, my guess is that, Obi-wan would have taken over for Yoda as the Jedi Master and Keeper of the Faith.
>>710565099
obi didn't break a sweat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVvxqUhxtDM
ur welcome
>>710567546
It was a 1-on-1 duel. Anakin lost. Having a strong connection to the force (lots of bugs in your blood) doesn't automatically mean you win. His inability to control and efficiently channel his power means he was never going to win. Having a lot of power and little control over it won't trump having slightly less power and complete mastery over it.
>>710565099
I like to think he didn't want to hurt him the whole fight, and only maimed him once he was sure Anakin would see the folly of his hardheadness
>>710567546
Interesting analysis.
>obi won would still have won
>>710569827
I think what he's saying is that if they just duelled in an empty room in which Anakin can press Obi Wan against a wall without an out for Obi Wan, Anakin would win by brute force
>>710570173
FUCKING THIS
/thread
was there even a single "fight" in the prequels? all I can recall is memorized choreographs and gay prancing
>>710570355
>Having a strong connection to the force (lots of bugs in your blood)
fuck off
>>710568695
>That is exactly what happened in the Duel on Mustafar. Kenobi was trying to reason with his old friend. He used the terrain to put himself in a situation where he could negotiate with him, but Vader was too angry to even think about it. All he wanted was to kill him and show him the extent and superiority of his new powers. He threatened Kenobi’s life with his last move, so Obi-Wan chose to use this mistake to disarm him completely:
BRAVO!
>>710568892
Damn that's pretty sweet. I need to go back and rewatch
>>710568892
Love it!
>>710568695
>>710570764
yep, pretty sweet and accurate phrasing!
probably the only good moment in the prequels tbh, that and the speech from Obi-Wan that followed
obi always had the high ground. anakin was lost
>>710570636
Exactly - 1v1 fights are quick and brutal, especially when they involve weapons. We aren't talking about boxing or MMA here, it's a battle to the death not a sporting event.
>>710570355
>Having a lot of power and little control over it won't trump having slightly less power and complete mastery over it.
Yes!!
>>710566688
Checked ;)
>>710570933
Agreed
>>710565099
Trump. Trump always wins.
>>710568695
Best response yet, thank you for mentioning that his soresu was the perfect counter to Vader's aggressive fighting style
>>710569827
This is the correct answer.
>there are people itt right now that think obi wan could beat dark side anakin in a straightup fight
>>710570636
Hell of a lot better than the fights in the originals. Any examples of impressive, non-choreographed cinematic combat?
>>710570980
you make sense m8
people bitch on EP7 all around, but the fights were actually very compelling to watch (if we put aside the fact that Rey was waaayyy to good at everything)
>>710565099
Finn
>>710571597
Oh yeah Rey went from knowing nothing to master in a second with absolutely no training
Vader would have won as spinning attacks are his power. Obies power comes from high ground attacks. Like Yoda power comes from flips.
>>710571479
If we consider fighting skills, Anakin is literally a copy of Obi-Wan, only more arrogant and agressive, and far less strategic
Obi-Wan won for a reason m8
>>710570355
>trump
Alt-right cancer, opinion discarded.
Get thread?
>>710571597
Agreed on 7. One of my favorite parts was Finn's battle against 'tr-8r'. You can see he is startled by how much his Saber is getting pushed back, which makes sense as he's never used a weightless blade before
George Lucas's wallet
>>710569827
Are you sure? I'm thinking more so for a rematch a blank arena. I think in terms of raw dueling ability, Anakin is superior. But it doesn't mean much in the face of experience.
Though, I do agree with what you're saying. If it were just a raw 1 on 1 duel though to measure skill, Anakin would win. But that'd almost never be the case.
>>710570355
I don't think I really factored in his force attributes.
Obi-Wan and Anakin seemed even in their usage of the force in this fight. Besides trusting it and such I mean.
I meant he was just throwing everything he had at Obi-Wan, and it showed. He was overwhelming his defense throughout, he kept having to kick him back just to gain some distance.
>>710570592
Thanks.
>>710571578
Pretty sure all combats in cinema are choreographed (as in practiced MANY time), but the first thing that comes to my mind is some Jackie Chan flicks.. they felt more like an action-reaction fight than the obvious dances in the prequels. Even the original trilogy had some genuine feeling to it (Luke VS Vader in Ep5 especially)
>obi wan getting his ass handed to him the whole team
>constantly backing up and trying to get away
>anakin chasing him down constantly on the offensive
>obi fights like a total bitch and jumps away
>anakin angrily chases him for being a pussy and obi takes that moment to take advantage
You faggots really think without all that backing up and high ground shit that obi would stand a chance? Did you even see the fight? On solid ground with no obstacles or maneuvering, Anakin would've obliterated him.
In a long strategic battle, Obi obviously wins.
In a short powerful battle, Anakin wins.
In that instance Obi had the high ground, he used his surroundings to get the edge. If he had no real way to gain an edge over dark Anakin, he would've been overpowered.
So the answer to your question is 100% Anakin.
Let's get something straight. Anakin was the one who was foretold to bring balance to the force. Why? Because some Jedi at some point had a dream about him killing Palpatine. When it happened, it wasn't because of his connection to the force or his fighting prowess; it was just because he loved his son enough to throw some old cunt down a hole.
Anakin was not God of The Force. He was a kid with enough natural ability to innately use The Force to pod race. He was taken in and trained to be a solid Jedi Knight, and occasionally had a prophetic dream or two. He fulfilled his destiny by making the right decision at the right place at the right time. He wasn't a force giant amongst normal men, just a Jedi who fell and committed one act last of goodness before he died.
>>710572487
you actually DO realize that ObiWan didnt want to kill Anakin, right? he didnt even want to fight him but had no choice over the evidence of him turning to the dark side. Overall the wanted to reason with him and bring him back to the light, but ultimately failed
>>710572302
Yea, I get what you're saying. I was just answering "high ground" question, as if that same battle would've continued in some other way. I think Obi-Wan would have found another "high-ground" in a different sense.
But, yea, if it was just a raw duel in a flat empty arena, I don't know what would really happen. Obi Wan does have the experience, but blind rage through the dark side usually thrives off of those kinds of situations.
It's fun to think about, though.
>>710572839
WHAT ABOUT HIS MEDICLORIAN LEVEL?
>>710572839
Agreed. Perhaps midichlorian counts don't determine how well you can use the Force as much as how well the Force can use you.
>>710569631
and this makes me wanna go play KotOR
>>710573053
Fuck you and your midi-chlorians. That plot point is utter shit.
>>710573053
Nigga was str8 infested doe
>>710565099
>>710572302
May the force be with you
>>710573302
>getting sarcasm like a boss
>>710573053
ITS OVER 9000!
>>710573555
fucking kekd and checkd
>>710565099
Two points of view:
Anakin is stronger with The Force. He wins.
Obi-Wan is wiser; this means that his understanding of The Force is better. He should be able to see further into the future and use that knowledge to manipulate the outcome. He wins.
Obi-Wan Kenobi wins this one. Sheer talent can't match true wisdom.
>>710565099
Neither, because in the only three actual Star Wars movies, all we know is anakin skywalker was a good jedi and a great pilot. Senor shithead and the cover band he assembled for the prequel reboots has an anakin that is neither of those things, none of the crap that those dumb cartoons show actually happened like that. They are merely a half remembered dream of a drunken twilek, brighter, more vibrant, and more slick and polished and dramatic than it could have ever been.
What happened to Obi Wan's light sabre at the end of New Hope?
>implying the prequels were actual movies
>>710565099
George Lucas.
We all lost in those three pieces of shit and he won every time. and now disney is wining.
>>710573754
I can taste this guy's bitterness from here
>>710573873
good question, for another time
>>710573754
/thread
>>710573754
oh fukken jesus
>>710572839
He brought balance to the Force by joining the Dark Side. Balance means equal parts dark and light. Too many goody two shoes Jedis and not enough Dark bad asses, so when they say he brought Balance to the Force, it doesn't mean he went and joined the Jedi to make them even more powerful. He went and joined the Sith to balance it out.
Fuckin' idiots.
>>710573754
I like this.
>>710566317
Obi wan's a big guy
>>710573878
Hahahah
> sometimes I feel like that too
>>710573873
Three possibilities:
One, Vader picked it up and put it in his personal quarters. It was destroyed with the Death Star.
Two, Vader picked it up and kept it with him so it wouldn't have been destroyed. Unlikely, but dumb shit happens in this series "Jus 'cause."
Three (but two-parter), Vader sent it to the Emporer. So it was either destroyed when the other Death Star exploded, or (more likely since the Emporer didn't have it on him during his confrontation with Luke) it was on Coruscant and was either taken with the Empire when they fled or it was still on Coruscant when it was destroyed.
>>710573873
Revenge.
>>710573873
Fuck man, I never thought of that!!
>hmmm..gotta think on that one
I bet it ends up in Kylo Ren's hands in episode 8!!
>>710565099
Anakin was angry which fed his dark force powers.
General Obi-Wan was the most brilliant tactician the Republican had ever seen.
This battle purely swayed on the field in which it took place. If on an empty Naboo plane, Lord Vader most certainly would have over powered Obi-Wan in his rage. But on Mustafar Anakin was destined to make a mistake and hand the victory to Obi-Wan.
>>710574065
Except the Sith existed for over a thousand generations in hiding. Now, there was an imbalance but Anakin joining the Dark Side didn't bring balance. All other Jedi/Sith dying in a conflagration and Luke bringing his father back using both sides before Anakin's death brought balance. Luke's insistence on being a "Jedi" (I use quotes because he didn't really know what the fuck that meant) tipped the scales again and fucked his universe.
>>710571135
Where was his complete mastery when dooku casually bitchslapped him twice?
>>710572963
>It's fun to think about, though.
Oh for sure. Agree with you entirely.
>>710571578
Try ong bak
>>710575008
Leave politics out of it you shillary fuck
>>710566463
i got it
>>710572839
>it was just because he loved his son enough to throw some old cunt down a hole
Perfect description killed my sides
>>710566463
Yeah, dude was the master of altered perspectives, wasn't he?
>>710575008
There will always be terrain and that terrain will always be uneven. A small imbalance can be an advantage to a more experienced combatant.
>>710575152
Yes, yes, this is a bit of a problem....hmmm
>>710575152
Different styles....plus Anakin knew Anakin inside and out.
>>710575547
I always saw the Jedi believing Anakin to be the person to bring balance to The Force as a mistake, since it wasn't really Anakin but Luke who balance The Force in the end.Yes, Anakin killed the Emporer but he wouldn't have done it on his own without Luke's influence. Luke was the stronger Jedi, the wiser man.
>>710575078
That would make sense to most people but you're dealing with George lucas logic
Way he wrote it, the dark side is a perversion of the force and balance means killing it off
>>710573873
Vader kept it. But it was eventually returned to Luke after....Annd nevermind Disney shit canned all of that so you're guess is as good as mine
>>710566463
from your point of view that may be true but now from my point of view
>>710575810
He lost that fight
>twice
He's not a complete master
Very good but loses often enough
Probably helped he taught anakin how to everything
>>710575810
you must have missed the part when he rekt general grievous who had 4 light sabers. gtfo
>Bringing balance to the force
What ppl think: = amount of light and dark side users.
What the jedi interpreted the prophecy to mean: Complete and utter annihilation of the Dark side because the dark side was seen as a corruption of the force.
>>710576058
The lack of logic (even just an internal logic) in these movies is painful at times.
>>710575960
True...but in the end Anakin destroyed the emperor by throwing into the death star shaft.
>>710576677
Doesn't matter - the Jedi were clearly wrong on many fronts or else they would have been wise enough to see Palpatine coming a mile away.
>>710576677
>>710576469
Yeah, I fucked that one up pretty good
>>710576764
But like I said, he wouldn't have done it without Luke's influence. Luke manipulated his father's emotions in a way the Emperor couldn't.
>>710576671
>rekt him with a blaster
>>710569667
I bet you're real fun at parties.
>>710576492
>>710576671
Like I said before, different styles have weaknesses...etc..
> don't forget Yoda "lost" to the emperor
>>710575152
>>710575810
Not really, I mean, it started as a 2v1. I think if it began with just Anakin vs Dooku or Obi-Wan vs Dooku 1v1 Dooku would've won either of them.
Fighting 2 people at the same time would take a lot out of you. Same shit that happened to Darth Maul. He would've wrecked Qui-Gon or Obi-Wan if it was a 1v1.
They both held their own against 2 opponents for a good while and eventually got bested by 1 of them, not really fair fights, if you ask me.
>>710577106
Very true
>>710577333
There are very few light sabre battles 2 vs 1, so I guess, yeah, maybe darth maul or dooku might have won if it was 1 vs 1
Anakin.
He's the chosen one, and caught up with obi Wans skill level in 10 years. He would have destroyed him. Notice how throughout the entire fight obi is always being pushed back, always grimacing during the fight (Anakin keeps a cool composure for the most part and is not struggling at all)
>>710577333
First off, check'd
Secondly, I think you got me the wrong way round
I think Obi wan is getting too much credit here
Fought dooku in the 2 of a 2 V 1 and lost hard twice
At least anakin improved for the rematch,Obi wan did worse with experience
>>710577973
>anakin keeps a cool composure for the whole fight
The Fuck son?
>>710577796
Dooku won the first 2v1, Yoda had to save Obi wan and anakin
>>710577973
see >>710572852
cant believe some people still dont get that
>>710565099
Obi Wan's lightsaber style is designed to tire out the opponent as the user looks for an opening. Anakin was clearly not thinking straight so he would have lost eventually.
>>710577973
I do have to agree with another post that obi won was trying to negotiate and reason with Anakin
> so he wasn't trying to harm him until the very
And even then he only disarmed him
>>710578244
what a poor third act it was, even worse than the rest of the movie.. Episodes 1 and 2 are complete shit
>mfw
>>710578449
youre looking for this
>>710578298
>>710572852
>>710578449
And left him on fire
>>710578095
Agreed, anakin was like a raging bull bro
>>710578581
well yes, fire is a great source of midichlorians
>>710578572
Thanks
>>710567132
>planning
being manipulated by a much more intelligent sith lord
>>710578671
But also a shitty way of showing your lifelong friend you were trying to save them
>>710578581
Yup
>>710578943
>hewasagoodfriend.jpg
damn the only thing more harsh would be if Obi Wan slowly force pushed Anakin into the lava.
>>710579110
Not true
He could take anakin out the lava, then use the force to put lava on anakin
>>710578490
Yeah. When Episode 2 came out I thought, 'I'll go, maybe it won't be as bad as the first one.' I was miserable the whole time. Then I saw that scene. I put my head in my hand and accidentally said too loud, "Oh, no!" in my frustration. It happened to coincide with a brief pause in the action, so everyone in the theatre heard it.
"Wars make not one great." George Lucas is a shit.
>>710565099
lava
George Neckass confirmed anakin would have won in any other circumstance and that jar jar has a 10 inch long cock
>>710579291
> nothing can ever live up to my expectations
> i'm much more edgy if i heavily criticize things that i expect other people will like and are culturally significant
>>710569667
It happened a long time ago in a galaxy far away you fucking inbred
>>710579560
this
>>710565099
Obi wank IS the high ground
With no high ground, anakin must fight himself?
>>710579474
Alright, chucklehead.
I'm drunk as fuck, and I'm really enjoying this thread.
>>710579560
no it didn't you absolute retard, how the fuck would we have the technology a long time ago to see a galaxy far away? plus if this shit actually happened there would be more importance focused on it, none of this happened its all a fucking story, its not based off something that actually happened
how the fuck did u find this website thinking star wars is real you must be handicapped
>>710565099
On level ground, Anakin, as a sith lord at the height of his power, couldn't even defeat Obi-Wan. Obi-Wan transcended mortal form before he could even strike him down.
In that regard, he's an utter failure. He has a loss and a no contest vs Obi-Wan.
If it were a starship battle, Anakin would have fucked him up.
>>710579474
Nah m8, ep 2 is legit shit
If you liked it you're waaaay along the spectrum
>>710567546
>out duel Count Dooku
that fight was setup to fail by the emperor
>>710579855
>>710579807
Me too.
>>710579474
>things that i expect other people will like and are culturally significant
dude I think at this point its not even an opinion to say that the prequels were a mess
Episode III was a bit better than the other two, but other than than, there are major problems with everything: script, direction, acting, pacing, fight sequences, character development (especially motivations), humor, etc. The list goes on fucking forever.
if it wasnt for the original trilogy, I-II-III would have been ridiculed on the level of Battlefield Earth
>>710579807
>>710580012
me too guys, fucking great!!
>>710566463
It's posts like these that keep me coming back to 4chan
>>710570636
This made me kek heavily.
>>710580374
my pleasure, m8
>>710579807
Right on!!!!
>>710579855
bro...........
>>710579855
You're trying to lure us on the hook, right?
>>710579880
>On level ground, Anakin, as a sith lord at the height of his power, couldn't even defeat Obi-Wan. Obi-Wan transcended mortal form before he could even strike him down.
>In that regard, he's an utter failure. He has a loss and a no contest vs Obi-Wan.
Aww shit! Seriously well put!
shiiieeeettt the thread is dying
>>710580281
>if it wasnt for the original trilogy, I-II-III would have been ridiculed on the level of Battlefield Earth
Harsh
> But there were still moving elements, but I guess they were moving based in what we knew from episodes 3-6
>>710581132
I can't believe it lasted this long!
>>710580359
Agreed
>>710566317
Darth Maul actually survived
can't believe he took out 3 limbs just from high ground. pretty sure that was bullshit and obi wan was gonna #rekt anakin no matter what.
>>710571578
Yea except, I actually cared about the characters as they fought in the classics.
What was actually the point of the Maul/Dookoo/Anakin+Obi Fights, besides creating stupid flashy dancing?
You COULD argue:
Maul's purpose was to distract the jedi during the final events of the movie - but they weren't needed anyways so who cares?
Still have no real clue why Dookoo was fighting Anakin/Obi-Wan/Yoda at the end of 2. They were trying to bring him in, or something? If Dookoo really wanted to escape, he had so many fucking opportunities to just book it, and if they really wanted to capture him, there were plenty of ways they could have prevented his escape without dancing around with stupid glowsticks.
And the fight between Obi and Anakin wasn't some kind of plot magic to tie up every loose end in the OT... OH WAIT it was.
Obi-Wan and Anakin had the least believable friendship in cinematic history, Padme and Anakin had the least believable romance in cinematic history. Both moments of betrayal at the end of 3 are now utterly meaningless, and so with it is the entire fight that was supposed to frame this betrayal.
>>710576058
are you sure about that
>>710581529
Hold up, hold up...
>ive been where you've been at before, way too harsh on Ep1-3, they have some redeeming qualities
>>710581529
>I actually cared about the characters as they fought in the classics.
Exactly. Dooku and the jedis have never met before the fight, so who gives a shit; theres no connection whatsoever. Same goes for Grievous and the other. Just "eeeh gotta kill this guy" moments.
you look like a guy who will enjoy this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_19rSdEWao
>>710581578
Pretty sure, read it in some old interview with lucas
>>710565099
Obi-wan. Earlier Anakin would have probably beat him, but Vader was a noob in the dark side at this point. It's like he was fighting south-paw for the first time after fighting orthodox most of his life.
>>710569827
fuck you fag
>>710582235
>It's like he was fighting south-paw for the first time after fighting orthodox most of his life.
> love the analogy
>>710565099
Obi Wan because when a Jedi gets angry they fight like a motherfucker....look at what Luke did to Vader when he got pissef
>>710580281
Indeed it would have, because that was the fucking Point.
George Lucas HATED star wars. Sure he probably liked it at the time he made it, and he probably loved the money it made, but Lucas never really wanted to be defined by the one series. He didn't want to be a "The Star Wars" guy. He was just making a simple summer blockbuster, but stumbled across a magic he didn't even want.
He was essentially browbeat into making the first three movies by the studios and general public pressure. Any other movie he made, he'd still be answering questions about when the next star wars would be coming out.
So he said "Fuck It" and slapped together the cheapest, stamped out, copy and paste bullshit, engineered to play off focus group testing of what 9 year olds think is cool.
>>710574367
I have autismo /b/, wat do?
>>710583182
>He was essentially browbeat into making the first three movies by the studios
Sorry bro, but that's dead wrong. He literary waited until the rights to Star Wars reverted to him so he could mane Ep1-3 however the fuck he wanted to
>>710581529
I don't need to care about characters to appreciate a fight scene. I like fanfics and cinematic depictions of lore, and I was able to get more entertainment out of the prequel series than 95% of the big budget films I've seen
Da Boos.
>>710576911
Don't you mean a parsec, faggot?
The answer is: it doesn't matter because every lightsaber fight from episodes 1-3 was pure biohazard degree garbage.
The lightsaber fights from the old ones though... Those were beautiful.
>>710583865
No they weren't. They were slow and choppy.
>>710583182
>implying Lucas didnt plan SW as a trilogy from the start
>implying it was a cheap 1 time thing
>implying he didnt intend to create a whole saga based on his love for Flash Gordon and other adventure series
>implying he can be anything else than the Star Wars guy (ILM guy, maybe)
>implying he didnt negociate to keep creative control at all times
>implying he wasnt passionate about the prequels at all
>implying
>implying
>implying
its like you don't even have access to fucking wiki or youtube
>>710583716
I second this
>>710583865
>it doesn't matter because every lightsaber fight from episodes 1-3 was pure biohazard degree garbage
this guy gets it
>>710583943
see >>710570636
>>710583865
Old ones were boring and slow. 1-3 were well choreographed and employed techniques that actually lived up to obi's hype.
>>710583777
Durr
>>710565099
Obi Wan. His Soresu style was perfect to counter Anakin's, who at that point in time, no matter how much he emo-raged, didn't know how to overcome. Kenobi was at the peak of his power at this point.
Anakin defeated Dooku because Dooku was old, and his Makashi style was vulnerable against Anakin's Djem So style. A young Dooku would've wiped the floor with Anakin.
Obi Wan has much better feats than Anakin. The novelization describes him as the ultimate Jedi.
Even years later, Vader had trouble with old Obi. Obi Wan had to let himself be killed.
>>710583865
I back and forth on this.
>yodas battle with palpatine was dope
But nothing beats Luke vs vader in ROTJ
>>710568892
Nice analysis mate, hadn't seen it like that.
"Seriously bro, that's like, my move, I wrote it. You don't teach the Pope how to pray, bitch."
>>710584288
why did he let himself be killed i forgot
>>710574432
actually my question wasn't where it went, but why was it malfunctioning in the fight?
>>710584446
>You don't teach the Pope how to pray, bitch."
Even if Lucas did fuck up Ep1-3 at least it was the Creator doing it...who knows what Disney will throw at us
>>710581948
not him, but I watched that whole thing and was very pleased
>>710584410
finally someone is making sense here
>"Your feelings betray you father"
>Whole fight scene
>"I will never turn" *throws lightsaber away*
Goosebumps every fucking time
>>710580012
>>710580340
>>710580630
I love you man
>>710584541
To turn Luke against Vader and show my luke to be passive in the face of overwhelming hate
>>710584736
For sure...that fight scene is epic....
>>710584863
>show my luke to be passive
sounds kinky
>>710584541
To become more powerful than we could possibly imagine.
>>710581529
I feel like Dookoo stayed and fought them for fun, then when yoda showed up he booked it
>>710584701
SJW-tier shit and lots of rehashed plot points from the now non-canon novels.
>>710584835
Stay drunk homie
>>710584994
Tee heee he
>>710585038
Yes. Just to fuck with Anakin a but and build anakins inferiority complex
>>710584701
I think Disney's just gonna get some stuff out of the garbage can, throw it at us, and make a bunch of money
>>710573873
Vader kept it in his private castle on the planet Vjun. You end up there in Jedi Knight II. It's constant acid rain. He had a room where he collected the sabers of all the Jedi that he killed. Anakin Solo was the last person to actually wield it.
Of course, that's all in the original EU. What they do with it now? Who knows.
>>710565099
Ok bros, gotta go
>ITT we summon Lucas and demand answers
>lucas: tell us, would obi wan have triumphed without the high ground??
Tell us you fuck, we deserve it...plus I saw revenge of the sith 6 times in the theatres so you owe me fucker!
> piece out
(Verified Supreme Leader Snoke)
>>710584701
7 was pretty good. Likeable characters including 2 main chars with mysterious pasts and intriguing fates, parallels to a new hope that will make the sudden departure in 8 even more impactful, best combat choreography so far, awesome music, and all the ambiguous dialogue regarding recent events - leaving me wanting more.
>>710586445
Poe and TR-8R were my favorite. I liked Rey but she's way too fucking Mary Sue.
>>710586745
I've had the feeling that her success is a series red herring. I really believe she's going to get what's coming to her in one (or both) of the next 2
>>710571479
Kinda did.
Kenobi would find a way in any arena you choose. Kinda like having a beast running play in football, but your opponent calls a blitz. Doesn't matter how good you can run the ball if they shut down that kind of play.
>>710586019
My theater went apeshit over that, everyone loved it.
>>710587075
I dunno. I don't have faith left what with all the SJW stuff.
>>710587170
When it's not on a loop it doesn't look so stupid.
anakin was more powerful but obi wan was smarter. obi wan would likely find another way to outsmart him if he needed to
>>710570451
This.
The whole duel was Anakin attacking and Kenobi trying NOT to attack while trying to reason with him.
The whole fight, Kenobi simply defends, and manages to repel everything Anakin threw at him.
If they were on level ground and Kenobi decided "ah fuck it" and began attacking, he'd have served Anakin up in fucking slices.
Christ, Kenobi only really made one attacking slice in the fight - and severed three limbs.
Anakin lost all control. Kenobi kept control. And he would have won regardless.
Also, in A New Hope, Vader didn't beat Kenobi. Kenobi clearly knew he'd be more useful as a spirit guide to Luke, and actually gives himself up. Everyone knows that.
>>710573265
Why the fuck would it make you want to go hit auto attack forever? You should go play the movie battles mods for Star wars Jedi Knight: Jedi academy
>>710574367
for you
>>710566317
Thought dead, Darth Maul survived his injuries by focusing on his hatred of Obi-Wan Kenobi, the Jedi who cut him in half. His shattered body was dumped amid the refuse of the junk planet Lotho Minor, where the once deadly warrior fell into madness, staying alive on a diet of vermin.
Fucking retard
>>710571449
I agree. Although Anakin was strong with the force at that moment, he was weakened by his passion and saw only one thing, his master who had betrayed him.
What is the best star wars video game?
>>710565099
Anakin, only just though. Obi's Soresu was considered the best in the order, a defense that was nearly impenetrable. However, Anakin was so directly fueled by the dark side that his form V fighting style would have eventually worn Obi-Won down through repeated power strikes and agressiveness. The only reason Obi won(lol) the fight was because he was level-headed and experienced AND knew Anakin's fighting style inside and out after their years of fighting together.
Blue light sabers are common and for degenerates.
Yellow light sabers are a lot cooler.
the dark side made an anakin too reckless. thats why it is made clear early on that anakin is more skilled than obi wan early on in the film, than when it comes to the fight between both of them, he is unable to keep his composure when he fights with anger causing his skills to diminish
>>710568892
I think you are seeing a connection were none really exists.
>>710581398
Became a spider
>>710588265
Kotor 2 bc I can't get the first one to run on win 7
>>710588548
i don't think he's more skilled. that's the whole point. he has raw power but hasn't reached a level of mastery that obi-wan has. that is also alluded to by his feelings of inadequacy with the force. he knows he's more powerful than some of the masters, but he's frustrated because his skill isn't there yet. he just needed more time and patience and his skill would have exceeded probably all masters except maybe yoda.
>>710588265
Masters Of Teras Kasi.
>>710588579
I think you're the one not seeing the connection.
Kenobi knew exactly what Anakin was gonna do, and as Kenobi had done it himself to overpower and kill Maul, he therefore knew how to counter it.
Which he subsequently did.
Jesus, how did you not get that?
>>710568892
He absolutely did not use the dark side in that moment. He was clearly calming himself down. He turned to the dark side after yelling ''no'' and then he realized he had to calm down and meditate which is you see him closing his eyes and the force music plays
>>710588265
By far Lego star wars
>>710589525
wrong. dash star says that obi want used dark side fury to defeat darth maul
https://youtu.be/Yeb1TDxEq1w
>>710589525
Never mind i just rewatched it. he does have a pissed off look on his face before he jumps
>>710589914
and he doesn't close his eyes like i remembered for some reason. but the light sabre doesn't move until his face relaxes
>>710589914
I got called out and I'm a NERF HERDING LIAR
Ftfy
>>710590124
no, I'm still right. i remembered it slightly wrong but he doesn't jump and the light saber doesn't move until his face relaxes which means he wasn't using the dark side there
>>710574367
>I meant he was just throwing everything he had at Obi-Wan, and it showed. He was overwhelming his defense throughout, he kept having to kick him back just to gain some distance.
4U
>>710588029
Fucking Brilliant analysis, anon
>>710567546
I'm pretty sure the fights are decided by the writers to fit the narrative of the existing movie structure and the outcome was inevitable for continuity sakes
>>710590633
wut?
fucking idiot
>>710590822
This is the most obvious answer. Fucktards on stackexchange ask stupid shit like "w-w-w-why are spaceships so easy to steal in star wars universe?" when the obvious answer is it's laziness for writers to advance a plot, whilst fat idiots attempt to come up with in-universe technical bullshit reasons that are totally made up.
>>710590633
>>710588029
Same fellow
>>710591230
Not quite.
Although I did also write >>710589505 and >>710589197
Maybe - just maybe - I'm not the only idiot in this thread?
>>710566688
I'm inclined to agree. Anakin was a master swordsman and beat Dooku by himself when Obi-wan was rekt. Obi-wan is great with situational awareness, but he's no match for Anakin's brute force and speed. Anakin uses the most aggressive style of combat and beat Dooku, who uses a duelist style, based on quick parries, thrusts, and misdirections. However, Anakin is young, stupid, and arrogant and chose to take the risk. Then got shrekt because of it.
>>710572839
the clone wars tried to tie in to the whole "chosen one" thing and make it more important but every story in the EU had a chosen one who restored balance, despite it being half finished, KOTOR two gives the ability to completely wipe the field of the previous generation of force wielders, good and bad, Anakin was just the one to stop the dark side from prevailing in that age
>>710565099
the viewers
