Go ahead, tell me how this is wrong
>Pro tip: Yu cant
>>710454920
The Democrats are going to cheat like a mother fucker, so that may not be accurate.
>>710454920
Early voting proves that Trump has won Florida and at least two other swing states.
This proves beyond any shadow of a doubt that he has won the presidency.
How does this make you feel?
Are you upset?
early voting lol
>>710455671
take in how no one fucking likes u. pussy ass white boi
the Trumpers are gonna be butthurt nexy Wednesday
>>710456102
Ditto ya goshjam ninja wannabee
>>710454920
nope. Trump has no chance in NC, NH or ME. Hillary's winning in Florida (early republican voters voted for Hillary 28% of the time).
Nevada will be Hillary. Georgia's deadlocked.
Trump's got Nevada and Texas.
Otherwise your model is sound.
>>710454920
Trump wins Pennsylvania
>>710454920
Election hasn't ended. For all we know, this is completely wrong.
>>710457577
tied in nc and nh polls, georgia is locked for trump, try again
>>710454920
> user generated map
Trumpies are really retarded
>>710458221
he's a single point ahead in Georgia ... GEORGIA
NC polls have CIinton up anywhere from 2 to 5 points and EVs are looking stellar for her there, FL and NV.
>>710457185
A butthurt to save civilization.
>>710458221
Hillary's still up in NH
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/nh/new_hampshire_trump_vs_clinton-5596.html
you can't cherry pick 1 poll.
>>710454920
I think Trump will lose Nevada, but will surprise win in Colorado. For the most part your graphic seems solid, and I enjoy that you have Texas solid red instead of falling for the impossible liberal spank fantasy of Texas being in play or even going blue (it's about as likely as California going red).
>>710458221
also the ARG polls are notoriously unreliable.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/arg-my-brain-hurts/
>>710458602
>you can't cherry pick 1 poll.
He said while only posting 1 poll...
why are republicans anti-intellectual? and anti-science?
why do they embrace racism, bigotry, and sexism?
why do they want to banish decency (the anti-pc movement), and force the USA to devolve into a breed of literal 3rd-world savages?
>>710454920
>implying Shillary will win PA, a historically republic state
>>710458876
I just posted the averages of several polls.
You're another example. When you don't go to college, YOU'RE the sum total.
RCP/Princton/538 all polling aggregates point to Hillary winning electorally.
Trump has a chance, but its small.
>>710458876
>doesn't understand aggregates
>>710458657
I guess we thank Reagan's amnesty for California forever being blue. It was a solidly Republican state in presidential elections till '92.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/clinton-pushes-minority-turnout-as-trump-tries-to-rally-his-base/ar-AAjSiXV?ocid=spartanntp
The fact that Trump's still rallying his base, speaks volumes. Republicans and Democrats talked about this during the primaries.
Both parties agreed that whichever candidate was still rallying his/her base the final week of the election, would lose. This is basic knowledge. Political history has proven this over, and over.
In other words trumpanzees, it's the data you retards (and no, it's not rigged).
All the whiny little bitch ass Trumptards talking about muh stolen election and rigging and shit next week after Trump gets btfo by Hillary is gonna be seriously exhausting. Might have to take a week off the internet or something. I don't know, what do you guys think?
trump isn't splitting maine or getting new hampshire which you deviously threw in to get him over the 270
next
>>710459794
Sounds like she's out there rallying her base.
herp derp
>>710459794
You are right, its not. Hillary wasn't able to succesfully rig texas and ga. She has to rig PA to win, but she wont. Trump has been winning for years, niggers and spics cant get a slimy cunt into office. They arn't even literate, you expect them to go and vote? They will just text Hillary and smoke weed.
>>710460172
lel
He's not getting anything from Maine. Polls have him behind for while.
YO BRO, WEINER'S A HOE
No idea who to vote for tbh. I'm overwhelmed by what feels like decades of discussions, articles, ideology, and banter. It would be hilarious if Texas went blue (and more likely than people think).
>>710456102
Person of color spotted.
>>710454920
Nevada, Florida, NC are all locked in for Hilary
New Hampshire and Ohio could potentially go for Trump, but it's unlikely.
So it's wrong. Faggot.
>>710455610
The worst cheaters BY FAR have been the Republicans for DECADES now. Nice try, retard.
The only people who've been arrested for Voter Fraud so far are Trump voters.
Republican gerrymandering has paid off in Ohio and Iowa.
Now... The Liberals Strike Back.
Hillary
Liberal Scotus
Gun Control
Death of the GOP
Democratic Senate
>>710461698
The word you're looking for is "person".
Hi, /b/, let me teach you a lesson about a special word called "Testimony".
Now, testimonies are similar to accusations in that they attest to a particular assertion. And often, accusations will turn INTO testimonies.
But the big difference between testimonies and accusations is that testimonies are made under oath. This makes testimonies more reliable in the court of law, because it means the person making the statement can be held accountable for their actions. This allows testimonies to suffice as evidence in court. Accusations, though, can be false and suffer no consequences at the expense of veracity.
For example, let's evaluate the following statement:
>Donald Trump raped me when I was 13.
If this statement is made without an oath attached to it, it is simply an accusation. While condemning, it cannot be regarded as evidence in any meaningful sense, as the person stating it cannot be held in contempt for false witness.
Let's try another example:
>I did not delete incriminating emails.
If this statement is made under oath, then it is testimony. If it can be established beyond a shadow of a doubt that the person making this statement was aware it was false, then they can be held accountable for lying while under oath.
I hope this was informative to you all.
>>710461976
Thank FUCKING god. The Curse of the Party of Subhuman Retards is FINALLY at an end.
>>710460324
I really hope Trump wins so that you see the real America and how fucked up they really will be for the next ten years.
>>710462045
"It's rigged! Hillary rigged it all! vote twice if you have to!" - Trump
"The only polls I believe are ones where I'm ahead!" - Trump
"I'll only accept the results of the election, if I win!" - Trump
>>710462081
Funny thing about proceedings with oaths--ONLY the judiciary has the authority to conduct it.
When the niggerfaggot lynchmob of brainless GOP garbage in the House calls you to testify about something they perceive as a crime, it carries no weight. Gowdy Doody and the Slack-jawed Yokels Band weren't there to question her. They were there to generate biased insinuations and use taxpayer money to make Hillary look bad.
>>710462105
Yeah, it's time for the GOP to die. They won't be able to viably compete in another Presidential election. they went full-retard. the GOP has been cultivating this racism, this bigotry, this sexism.
demographically they've destroyed themselves. and their future as a credible party.
>>710462352
>ONLY the judiciary has the authority to conduct it.
Which is why the FBI is setting up the case for the DOJ right now.
what's the nigger whore's name in the porn ad at the top of the page?
>>710455671
Except for, you know, early voting meaning jack shit lmao. Hillary is winning Florida polls :)
>>710462395
>the GOP has been cultivating this racism, this bigotry, this sexism.
The concept of "privilege" has done more to cultivate racism and sexism than anything the GOP could have stated.
#BLM
>>710462217
Polls are not votes, and the polls are definitely rigged.
Additionally, the clinton campaign's actions this election have been extremely sketchy, including but not limited having debate questions in advance, paying contractors to hire mentally ill shit-disturbers, and failing to accept responsibility for their groups of violent arsonists.
>>710455671
Early voting doesn't prove shit.
>>710462768
No it doesn't. And I can't wait. 3 more days until Trump crawls into his golden cave as a fucking loser.
>>710462723
i would like to think that if the polls were rigged they'd all indicate a consistent bias,but they're ~*all over the map*~ this year huehuehue
>>710463010
BINGO
>>710462395
Sad part is that they actually went full retard already back in 1979. The racism, hate, evangelical "values" and media propaganda engine kept them alive for another 25 years until Obama became a thing and then they went full "public display retard" and alienated the shit out of the moderates, social liberals and pretty much everyone in the nation who doesn't wear a klan hood or believe that abortion makes the Baby Jebus cry.
That's why all they can do is try everything in their power to rig elections in their favor now with bullshit voter suppression, removing polling places from low-income zones and schools, closing registrars, etc.
It really is disgusting.
>>710463168
THIS THIS THIS x10000000
>>710463010
>>710463136
Nate Silver has reskewed polls on multiple occasions upon Trump gaining any lead.
Humor me: How far would Hillary have needed to be ahead before they skewed it in Trump's favor.
McMuffin will get Utah, Johnson New Mexico, at least 1 or two states will be close enough for recount. Forced recounts, electoral college drama, plus Hillary getting indicted afterwards will lead to this shit dragging on into January. Most likely it will go to the democrats though by the end of it and we'll be too exhausted to say anything about it.
>>710454920
I guess we'll see anon!
>>710463168
>>710463442
You seem to be horribly, horribly mistaken.
Evangelicals are dying.
White pride isn't, though. #BLM made sure of that.
>>710463521
i was trying to humor you but no one liked my cool and clever pun i guess
>>710458955
clinton is up an average of 3.5% in aggregate polls.
>>710463612
>#BLM made sure white pride isn't dying
>>710463627
and don't forget that WE know for a fact that the alt-right /pol/ trash have been organizing and deploying to skew all the nonsecure polls in favor of Trump for months, so Clinton's ACTUAL lead is even higher than the current aggregate spread.
(it's pretty damn scary to see the /pol/-fixed polls' values make it into the media unvetted though. You'd think they'd be smart enough to disregard any poll that isn't rigidly controlled...)
>>710463864
White privilege and white pride are two sides of the same coin. It is the same fundamental concept behind "The White Man's Burden".
Preaching one inevitably brings the other. Accusations of privilege makes people more racially aware. And unfortunately, progressives made the grievous mistake of reminding white people that they are white.
You brought this upon yourself.
>>710458577
>MSNBC watcher detected
>>710454920
Ohio, North Carolina, Florida, and hell, even Nevada are battlegrounds. You've painted them all red, when in reality they're basically 50-50. NC is honestly on the fence, Ohio will probably be blue, but even if both of them were red, Nevada is gonna be blue this year and that's all Clinton needs to win.
>Battleground states are red
>Implying the battle is over
>>710454920
ME is going to be Dem/Ind, as always. Trump won't get a point there. NH is questionable, I don't think it's close enough for a Trump victory. WI, MI or PA are more likely to swing than NH.
As long as there is strong enough 3rd party support (5+%) Trump will win. My prediction is 50.3% of the vote and at least one of the swing stated listed. If there isn't 5% for third party votes, Hillary wins with roughly the same popular vote, and will carry all of the listed swing states. Screen cap and post this shit after the election, because I'm right.
>>710464117
>WE know for a fact that the alt-right /pol/ trash have been organizing and deploying to skew all the nonsecure polls in favor of Trump for months
>in favor of Trump for months
>WE know for a fact
>fact
>fact
I think you've mistaken "fact" for "shit I just made up to feel better"
>>710464175
>muh hating on privilege
You really need to understand something here. That shit ONLY exists in the "college hippie liberals" of the democrat base. They are our fringe minority and have never had party recognition or political influence. This literally hasn't changed in 50+ years.
This is a far cry from the right wing fringe lunatics, who are now the literal base, candidates AND they DO hold the political authority and ARE acknowledged by a lot of the fucking morons in the party. That's the difference and it's why the GOP is SHIT and needs to be flushed out once and for all. The tail has been wagging the dog for decades on the right and the results have been socially, economically and politically catastrophic for the US.
want to try proving me wrong? Name ONE thing that the modern GOP (1979-present) has EVER done that was good or beneficial to America or her people. ONE thing. a bill? an Act? anything? Nope. It's not possible because there ISN'T. ONE. THING.
>>710464327
Why Ohio? That's one of if not his most comfortable lead among the battleground states. And he currently has a better standing in Nevada than he does in NC.
>>710464546
I don't have time to "correct the record" on this moron. Can someone please just post the screenshots of the /pol/ and /b/ invaders "incognito spamming" the debate polls and shit?
>>710457577
Trump takes NH
>>710464832
To be honest it doesn't matter which one. If he loses any one of those states its over.
>>710462532
only reason she is winning polls is because they are oversampling democrats and making them biased as hell
>>710465118
As we all know, reality has a strong and well-established liberal bias.
>>710461555
Trips of truth but what you don't realize is that both sides cheat and the side that cheats harder wins
>>710454920
pls god. let this happen. im tired of fucking pussy liberals being snobby bitches all the time. hillary is a fucking disaster for america.when will they accept that
>>710464739
>They are our fringe minority and have never had party recognition or political influence.
Except for Bernie Sanders entire campaign.
They are not a "fringe" minority anymore. This shit is being taught in public schools and in sociology classes.
>Name ONE thing that the modern GOP (1979-present) has EVER done that was good or beneficial to America or her people.
Why? You've already made up your mind, and anything I state will be judged by whatever arbitrary criteria that you're abiding by.
So humor me: What qualifies as something "good" or "beneficial" to America?
>>710465091
I understand how shaky the ground under Trump's feet is right now. I just didn't understand why you thought his most comfortable lead in Ohio was somehow less stable than his practical tie in NC.
>>710465305
Reagan kept us alive. that's a pretty big one
>>710454920
Dear suckfags
This is the only prediction that matters. Your shitty user-generated predictions are just adorable and 100% fantasy.
>Nate Silver
>>710460324
>niggers and spics cant get a slimy cunt into office
That's true but there are more Jewish forces afoot than Niggers and spics
>>710465118
source?
nate silver is not infallible but he makes a strong case for why that's nonsense
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-polls-arent-skewed-trump-really-is-losing-badly/
>>710464993
Holy shit, someone on this retarded board actually posted a relatively accurate map!
Based on early vote numbers, I think it's safe to say NV is leaning blue. Ultimately I think FL and NC are going to go blue, but they are going to be very close.
It's safe to put OH as leaning red based on the numbers, but I think Hillary is going to pull it off there as well by Tuesday.
>>710465203
>I love Colbert and John Oliver! I can't think for myself!
>>710465369
Going to say 3 words no one has ever said on an internet argument.
>I Was Wrong.
OP has NH going red, didn't see that bullshit. That, NC, and NV will prob be blue. Not Ohio.
>>710455671
At many as 28% of early voting Republicans in Florida have voted for Clinton.
Also, early voting in Nevada is placing it out of Trump's reach.
So -- even if you are right about Florida, Nevada should be blue.
>>710465404
>>710465463
Yall fucking niggas are right, its like these idiots don't remember every election since Bush. Nate Silver is basically always right within a small small fraction of error that's insignificant enough to worry about.
>>710465564
I think Hillary is going to win FL, but this "28% GOP for her" stat is such bullshit. That isn't happening. Period.
She's going to win FL because the state is a few percentage points more Hispanic than it was 4 years ago when Obama won, and all the data so far indicates that Hispanic turnout is massive.
>>710465305
>Why? You've already made up your mind, and anything I state will be judged by whatever arbitrary criteria that you're abiding by.
This is one of the greatest things I've ever read. Holy fuck that's brilliant.
>>710465393
You need to understand the game that >>710464739 is playing.
He doesn't actually have any set criteria for what counts as "good" or "beneficial", nor is he prepared to assess costs or benefits in any economic fashion. He's simply going to google the first response to whatever you post, and then state it because he's making up his arbitrary framework as he goes along.
By providing an answer, you endorse him.
>>710464546
Dude, I've personally spammed polls for Trump. And I voted Hillary. The numbers you see for him are pretty fake /b/ro.
look at this and ask yourself which polls are more likely to be accurate? The TV station and republican run polls, or the professional pollsters polls?
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/nc/north_carolina_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson-5951.html
>>710465433
im jewish myself and most of my family is full trump. the people you and the tinfoil /pol/ is after is media bigwigs, which happen to be jewish often.
You are blind to reality if you actually believe in some "Zionist Round Table" that is mean to keep down everyone. The whole Rothschild conspiracy literally makes no sense when you read into it.
>>710464993
FL and NC will be red. NV is also likely red, but it's not likely relevant. I still doubt that ME will give a point to red though, it's always gone independent. Trump has a chance in WI, MI and PA, and those are the only states that matter now. If Trump turns any one of those, he'll win. If not, he'll lose. And his ability to turn those states relies almost solely on the third party vote.
>>710465404
>>710465463
>le nate iron ore
>>710465118
Trump has been in the lead for months. He is possibly going to be over 300 electoral votes. Let these retards circle jerk in huffington post and NY times polls. Let them build each other up, november 8th is when we end the free rides.
>>710461555
yeah because it's the republicans running the inner city ghettos where all the cheating happens. oh wait, no it's welfare-leaching worthless dems
>>710465259
Trump is the bigger disaster. When will you cuckservatives admit it?
>>710465539
Not sure I agree with you on Nevada. Aggregates have him at around a 2 point lead so far at only four days away. Of course anything could happen, but I don't really see a sharp swing back in Hillary's favor.
And the race in NH is actually tightening pretty fast. She's not even a percentage point ahead currently. But that being said I don't know if he's got the momentum to overtake her. I think it'll be really close.
>>710463168
Now Trump has cultivated them into a machine and the game is changed. moderates, fringe GOP, young conservatives..old conservatives Everyone who realizes the libs are fucking destroying the country. Get over both parties at this point please cause it's over my nig. God almighty I hope he wins or you'll see full retard.
>>710465969
You realize that his articles are independent of his bias. Those headlines are 1) cherry picked by searching #trump and 2) accurate
>Trump wasn't supposed to win the nomination, the fact that he did is called an anomaly.
>>710466167
>God almighty I hope he wins or you'll see full retard.
>Believes in God
>Wants Trump to be President
Are you actually proud of being retarded
>>710464117
>alt-right /pol/ trash
>being this much of a YAAAS QUEEEN living parody
>>710465803
>>710464881
Comparing debate night twitter poll shenanigans to daily polling "for months". Pathetic.
>>710466192
>Trump wasn't supposed to win the nomination, the fact that he did is called an anomaly.
I guess he wasn't supposed to win the election either, must be another anomaly.
>>710466192
How many anomalies need to occur before you finally recognize that the model itself is faulty?
>>710462504
kobe bryant
>>710465858
Every non-republican run poll puts Hillary up by 2-3 points. But it's going red? Not so much /b/ro
>>710466167
Some buddies of mine are placing bets on reported suicides within 6 months pertaining to the election outcome. We used a hat and notecards, i voted 12. No idea what they voted but i think a dozen is a good number.
>>710466326
being this clueless
>>710458955
PA hasnt gone republican since 88
>>710466192
>You realize that his articles are independent of his bias. Those headlines are 1) cherry picked by searching #trump and 2) accurate
Not even he believes this. No need to defend him.
>>710466192
>accurate
Did I just read that?
>he did win against Fox, they support him now
>Trump won in the polls, and won the nomination
>Carson was never, at any point, real competition
>Trump has as much popular support as Hillary
>the pope is literally the world's most popular leader, so everyone is less popular then the pope
>republicans could not take the nomination away
>Trump could not be stopped under democratic rules, in our democratic system
>Cruz never had a chance against Trump.
>>710466370
>>710466336
He wont, some time when you're shitposting next week about rigged elections, stupid liberals, criminal hillary, some point when you're going on and on about that you'll realize how much bullshit you've spewed in the past months about how much of a militant trumpie you were.
>>710464117
>and don't forget that WE know for a fact that the alt-right /pol/ trash have been organizing and deploying to skew all the nonsecure polls in favor of Trump for months, so Clinton's ACTUAL lead is even higher than the current aggregate spread.
They wouldn't solve anything for the alt right, you dont even see any alt right activity on social media.
>>710465798
Nice try kiddo, but, no, I actually just know what I'm talking about.
And I'm pretty sure 90+% of people don't need any form of clarifier for the word "GOOD".
>>710465393
Reagan didn't do fucking shit. He happened to be the standing president when the Soviet Union collapsed itself. Ronnie just took the credit for it.
>>710466161
Anyone who knows anything about the early vote in Nevada has already concluded that Hillary has almost locked it down.
She's going to hold down all the Obama states except for maybe swapping Iowa for NC.
>>710464327
>Hillary win Ohio
she already lost it lol
>Trump isn't guaranteed Florida
Luckily you dont need a ID or a car to do pre-election poll mining. The liberals wouldn't be let down as hard if they realized they lost days ago.
>>710466732
Answer the question.
How many anomalies need to occur before the model is declared faulty?
If accurate and consistent conclusions cannot be derived from a model, then what purpose does a model serve.
There's a real answer to the latter question by the way. Let's see if you can figure it out.
>>710466469
orly? They are tied right now, and repubs always win FL when the polls are tied going in. Unless we see a big change in polls in the next few days, Fl is going to Donny.
>>710466110
>welfare-leeching
You DO know that the majority welfare and foodstamps are consumed by red state, uneducated white conservatives, right? The modern liberal zones actually directly supplement the Retard zones.
YOU are the leeches, faggot.
Someone explain the electoral college and why the popular vote doesn't necessarily get elected.
>>710467087
Popular vote = states get shafted.
>>710457577
The early Republican voters voting for Hillary 28% of the time was debunked. Just like the Trump having ties to a Russian server was debunked.
(((they))) are very desperate but come the 8th I think it'll be everyone but the low information 30-65 yr old demographic that Hillary thrives on that'll be voting Trump - Expect more info from FBI
>>710466992
read
>>710466939
>Trump isn't guaranteed Florida
Luckily you dont need a ID or a car to do pre-election poll mining. The liberals wouldn't be let down as hard if they realized they lost days ago.
Trump has florida on Lock. One thing people fail to realize with the election is that when the day comes, many liberals fail to vote. They only win elections because of california, its always been that way.
>>710466817
>And I'm pretty sure 90+% of people don't need any form of clarifier for the word "GOOD".
Yes. I do.
Are you operating off of economic theory? Social stability? Scientific advancement? Are you mixing multiple perspectives? Is an outcome with both positive and negative consequences valid as an answer?
What is "good"? What is "beneficial"?
Model your criterion.
>>710466167
>libs r destroying muh Murrica
You mean SINGLE-HANDEDLY CLEANING IT UP IN RECORD TIME AFTER THE GOP SWINE CAUSED ANOTHER MASSIVE ECONOMIC CRASH DESPITE THE FACT THE REPUBLICANS DIDN'T DO A GODDAMNED THING TO HELP AND TRIED EVERYTHING THEY COULD TO FORCE AMERICA TO FAIL SO THEY COULD TRY TO BLAME OBAMA, right?
If not, you are literally a drooling retard.
>>710466994
Then why am I called racist for wanting to cut back on it?
Isn't that just quackin' crazy?
>>710466994
>You DO know that the majority welfare and foodstamps are consumed by red state, uneducated white conservatives, right? The modern liberal zones actually directly supplement the Retard zones.
i love hearing this. If that even is true, which i doubt. It probably has something to do with the hardworking citizens pissed at the welfare babies around them so they vote red.
>there are americans that will vote for Hillary
why?
People implying that welfare Americans even vote.
>>710467361
She's a criminal...? Don't get me wrong, I won't vote for Trump either.
>>710467307
Actually, it has more to do with proportions of population.
Whites are higher in every state.
>>710454920
>the best states are all blue
Really makes you think.
>>710465404
OPs map is not far off from 538s.
The difference being NV and NH leaning blue on 538. Both states are extremely close and only slightly favoring Clinton on 538. Trump is even ahead of Clinton in the RCP average, and the latest polls coming out of NH post FBIs Clinton bomb last week has had Trump tied or ahead in NH.
He has the momentum atm, will it swing the other way before Nov 8th? Who knows, but OPs map isn't that unlikely, and your map is not disproving it either.
>>710467361
Because they want there cousin Juan and uncle Roberto to be able to come across the border without having to almost die in the desert.
>>710466336
>>710466370
so which analysts are you turning to if you think so little of nate silver's models? honest question.
>>710467461
you are a wasted vote. grats.
>>710467495
>the best states are white
Really makes you think.
>>710467464
This. When whites make up around 70% of the population, they are more likely to be the ones using welfare. The important point, if you're going to talk about this issue, is what percentage of each group uses welfare. I'll let people go look that up on their own...
>>710467464
Must be why they are red. A bunch of white people and a handful of niggers with food stamps.
>>710467637
Whites are absolute trash.
>>710466973
Nate Silver and his opinion pieces do not equal his polls predictions.
He's not the foremost poll analyst in this decade because of what his opinions are or what his written blogposts say. He's literally just a pundit when he's typing words into a computer.
>but when he does polls
>when he runs numbers
>Fundamental Equation of Politics.
>>710467735
But the best states are white.
>>710466992
I'd re-examine that tie if I were you.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/fl/florida_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-5963.html
>>710454920
apparently there is a chance of the mormon guy getting OH.
if everything else went as per OP's pic, then congress gets to choose between the top 3 contenders, and it is possible that the mormon guy could become pres by winning only one state
>>710467615
Who should I vote for? I don't want either in office. Why the fuck would i vote for someone who absolutely does not represent me in any way, and will actively work against my interests?
At least if I don't vote, I'm voting against our broken system. If enough people did not vote, then our democracy would lose all credibility. Our government would have no right to rule. Ever vote for these shitty candidates is consent. And I won't consent.
>>710467546
I read about current pollings on realclear usually. You can look at certain states and see the drops and gains. Trump will win. The dual bama swing states that voted bush before will be Trump, and even if they do have kerry you see the numbers going down for hillary. Everyone is sick of the shit in the past 8 years.
>there are people on 4chan RIGHT NOW that aren't voting for Trump
>>>/reddit/
>>710467285
Because when you want to cut off welfare queens, you don't picture white women in your head.
>>710467361
Because I'd rather a corrupt woman than Cheeto Hitler
>>710467990
Actually there are tens of millions of people across America right now who aren't voting Trump and they outnumber the people voting Trump.
>>710467990
kys
>>710468096
That's rather bold, accusing me of what I do and don't think.
Maybe you're projecting, while I know full well who cutting back on welfare "hurts".
>>710467197
fucking pick one.
You know that economics and social standing/state are interconnected by public confidence, right?
What benefits the nation socially USUALLY benefits it economically as well.
>women's suffrage
>ERA
>EEO
>Marriage equality
ALL the fruits of Democrat labor and generally considered universally good for this nation and her people.
You could even say things that boost consumer confidence (i.e., the auto industry upgrade, the termination of fee-hiding and balloon interest credit firms), etc. count too.
Pretty much anything that isn't the world's most obvious powergrab, pandering to billionaires, antiegalitarian values, etc. can be construed as good.
But in this case specifically, I have high confidence that you cannot answer for the modern GOP, who have, again, done NOTHING right or good in over 35 years.
>>710467904
Both suck. I won't lie. If we get Hillary in office it will be a guaranteed 8 years. If we get Trump it will be 4, only 8 if he highly exceeds what people expect from him.
I dont want 8 years of hillary. Nothing good will come out of it. You will be paying higher taxes and international tensions will rise. With trump our military expenses will drop, taxes lowered, high expense immigration lowered.
Thats why people are voting for him. It has nothing to do with racism.
>>710468232
That's the case for every candidate, dum dum.
>>710467543
That racist comment doesn't explain why a hundred million white people are voting Hillary.
>>710467990
you are triggering ledit cancer
>>710468186
>Cheeto Hitler
>>710468378
women arn't people.
/pol/ was a mistake.
>>710468378
Easy:
College-aged voters
College graduates
Secularists/Atheists
Teachers/Professors
Scientists
The suburbite upper-middle class
Women
All of the above are VERY heavily weighted democrat voters as well as strongly concentrated white populations.
>>710468299
You support Trump so lets be honest, figuring out what you think isn't hard. Beer good. Fire bad.
Boobies good. Niggers bad.
>>710468580
If /pol/ didn't exist then we'd be stuck with another shitty democrat in the white house.
/pol/ was a happy accident.
>>710468670
Literally ONLY a subhuman /pol/ nigger would EVER say this.
>>>/pol/
get back to your mass-retardation containment unit.
>>710468378
didn't realize that she was going to win 75% of the popular vote and that all the minorities are voting Trump
>>710468670
>implying /pol/ has any noticeable influence on the outside world
Also, Obama was a good president.
>>710468509
You stole a 9fag meme to tell me to go back to redit... the irony.
>>710457577
NC here. Seen hundreds of Trump signs. Zero clinton. Seen dozens of car stickers. Saw one hillary sticker. She hasn't got a chance here.
>>710468670
>implying /pol/ accomplished shit
They always try to take credit for anything that happens that flows with their agenda. They gave themselves credit for brexit lel.
Trump is going to win, and /pol/ had nothing and will not have anything to do with it.
>>710468371
Why do you think that international tensions would rise more under a Clinton presidency? Trump's the one with a conspicuous disregard for foreign interests. British parliament didn't playfully debate banning Clinton from entering the the UK.
I suppose maybe he'd be chummier with Russia but that doesn't strike me as a positive thing.
>>710458955
are you a tard? PA has gone blue every election in recent history.
>>710468547
And this is why you are pic related
>>710458931
Simple. Poor education.
>>710468797
He was a fucking awesome president in SO many ways. Sucks that the GOP had to be subhuman faggots to him and shut down Congress cuz President Darkie McBlackenstein was making them all look bad by cleaning up Hurricane Bush's mess with ZERO help.
OBAMA FOR SCOTUS!!
>>710468874
Sounds pretty scientific.
>>710468945
They dont' really have a reason to not vote Clinton, they can't yell "BENGAZI" all day. so they have to invent something, anything.
>>710468371
Hillary:
>capable
>well connected
>corrupt
>fucking scary
She will get things done. And those things will be bad things.
Trump:
>he's Trump... he's so distasteful. as shitty a reason as this is, it's true.
>he will alienate the US, as he does with everyone
>he is incapable of doing anything... a pro and a con, really
>he's a demagogue
>he's very poorly informed, and he doesn't seem to care
>he's impulsive
>he's lying about his political stances
So mostly, he just doesn't have the character needed to be president. And most of his character is the opposite of what is needed. He's a liar, and he doesn't have the ability to negotiate domestically or abroad.
>If we get Hillary in office it will be a guaranteed 8 years
Ha, I don't think so. The repubs will impeach almost immediately, and will likely be successful.
>It has nothing to do with racism.
I don't give a shit about racism. It every bit as much caused by the progressive platform as it is by backwards hicks.
>>710468945
>Why do you think that international tensions would rise more under a Clinton presidency?
She threatened military action on Russia just because the person that hacked the DNC used a Russian proxy. Not to mention the no-fly zone in Syria.
She's a known warhawk with a record. While Hillary made a living stealing from broken countries and pursuing war, Trump made a living building structures and having good relationships.
>>710468945
>I suppose maybe he'd be chummier with Russia but that doesn't strike me as a positive thing.
Is less tension with russia bad? Putin keeps his hands out of our shit and gets to bomb sand niggers. We chill and retract military out of South Korea and the middle east. We save money, putin has a blast, and all is well.
>Trump's the one with a conspicuous disregard for foreign interests. British parliament didn't playfully debate banning Clinton from entering the the UK.
Nothing in Europe matters to the US right now. It's a pile of shit dealing with more shit. I don't care what happens to them as long as they contain the sand nigger issue.
4 countries matter
>USA
>Russia
>China
>Israel
I don't care if they do "ban trump". Who the fuck would ever care. He would probably die laughing at it.
>>710468945
because escalating tensions with the second most powerful maiitary would be a good thing right? America needs a strong leader with some bluster to keep the little yapping dogs away.
NO one respects American foreign power anymore since obango and clinton fucked it up in Syria and Libya.
Or maybe she can draw another red line in the sand or go on a "charm" offensive again
>>710468371
Paying higher taxes.
Why do people always FIGHT this like hell? Every other better off country has higher taxes. It levels out. Fucking morons don't wanna pay for a better country, they just wanna bitch.
>>710469229
excellent meme choice friendo :DDDDDDD
>>710469306
>capable
>well connected
>corrupt
>fucking scary
Best Clinton summary I've seen all election tbh
>>710469544
>implying sand niggers and aiding other countries makes ours better
Our country blows over a trillion every year of ridiculous shit that has no effect on this country.
>>710469306
>She will get things done. And those things will be bad things.
I keep hearing this tossed around but she's held public office for a while now and I don't see where the catastrophe is.
>>710458931
Easy.
>anti-intellectual/anti-science = Evangelical influence.
>racism, bigotry, sexism = Southern Strategy + Evangelicals
Best part is the whole "PC" thing they hate is a CONSERVATIVE thing. Back before the party went full retard they came up with the idea of "arguing from inclusivity", meaning it was beneficial for them to use and come up with terms that efficiently denote all addressees (ex. "Policemen" can accidentally imply males only, when in the same amount of time, they could simply say "police officers" or "law enforcement" to include everyone.)
p1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz4AmUaLbUQ
p2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPsderlzd6c
She actually did a fairly good, concise job of explaining the "beats" of why the evangelicals did such massive damage to the integrity of the GOP.
>>710469397
fair enough
Colorado will be red.
Game over.
>>710467157
low information white voters are Trump's bread and butter
>>710470019
(((low information)))
>>710469306
>he's Trump... he's so distasteful. as shitty a reason as this is, it's true.
>he will alienate the US, as he does with everyone
>he is incapable of doing anything... a pro and a con, really
>he's a demagogue
muhhhhhh emotionss!!!!!!!
>he's very poorly informed, and he doesn't seem to care
he is made out to be by the media.
>he's lying about his political stances
I think he just wants to get the conservatives on board to win. No one gives a fuck if 2 dudes and fucking each other or some skank wants to pop it out 6 months early.
>So mostly, he just doesn't have the character needed to be president. And most of his character is the opposite of what is needed. He's a liar, and he doesn't have the ability to negotiate domestically or abroad.
character, character, liar
next lol. im sick of hearing about character. No one cares.
>Ha, I don't think so. The repubs will impeach almost immediately, and will likely be successful.
she has held out through the entire election just fine. i'm not putting any faith in the GOP. they where hard enough to work with for trump.
>I don't give a shit about racism. It every bit as much caused by the progressive platform as it is by backwards hicks.
i agree
>>710470019
low information women and black voters are Hillary's bread and butter
>>710470019
Thats why Hillary needs to send out so much false information right? The liberals lap it up like dogs.
>>710470019
"low information" voters have been the only thing powering the GOP for over 3 decades now.
Literally, Republicans could NOT win elections if the GOP propaganda engines masquerading as news sources didn't exist.
You want something terrifying....
>>710470591
You have no response so you post
le funny xdxdxd .jpg top kek
kys ledit. you probably get called out every fucken thread for that right?
>>710470753
you proved his point lol. Your knowledge is probably limited to /pol/ memes.
>>710454920
New Hampshire and Maine are wrong.
>Madame President
>>710471001
splendid meme
>>710469420
>>710469446
I guess this is where we differ. My stance on Putin is mostly ideological-- I think we *should* put pressure on powerful dictators who shit on their people, which is the same reason I'm all for maintaining a presence at the Korean DMZ.
Of course those scenarios are delicate and precarious, but I also think backing off entirely is irresponsible. I don't think of Trump as someone with the finesse to handle that kind of tension, but maybe he wouldn't have to deal with it to begin with.
Anyway, I appreciate the honest responses. Just looking to better understand others' perspectives which is half the reason I even look at these threads.
>>710470573
oh shit, friend
>>710454920
What website is this?
>>710471276
You should do one for "Straw man", since that's the only thing you are accomplishing right now.
>>710470573
INB4 A Faithless elector decides the president
>>710471343
it's funny that the /pol/ autists who make these think they're being clever
>>710471335
270towin.com
An amazing political and historic trend resource.
>>710471398
Thanks man.
>>710454920
honestly i think he will win california too
>>710471335
it's a user generated map faggot.
>Never Trump
>Trump gonna get thumped
>>710468659
>Beer good.
Damn straight. As long as it isn't piss beer.
>Fire bad.
Not sure anyone thinks fire is bad...? It's useful.
>Boobies good.
Yes they are. I don't know many people, regardless of their politics, who don't like boobs.
>Niggers bad.
Well, it's true. As long as you stipulate the difference between niggers and black people.
>>710471470
Come on, now...
>>710471475
tears will fall
trump will prevail.
>>710469751
She and Bill have done plenty of fucked up things. Don't take my word for it. Go look.
>cruise missiles
>voter fraud
>cash for weapons deals & uranium
>etc, etc, etc
They are far better connected now than in the 90s, so their ability to do what they want, for their own ends, is far better.
>>710470198
>muhhhhhh emotionss!!!!!!!
Because I said Trump is a demagogue who will alienate the world, and is incapable of accomplishing political ends? Am I wrong in assuming this is almost the exact definition of "politician?"
>he is made out to be by the media.
yeah, the media is horribly biased against him. To the point where it should be illegal. But that doesn't change the fact that he's poorly informed on most issues, or terribly inept at conveying his point of view on such matters.
>I think he just wants to get the conservatives on board to win.
No shit. But it makes him a liar, just as bad as every politician in the two party system before him. Fuck him for that.
>character, character, liar
If no one respects you as a person, no one will respect you as a world leader. It's that simple. He is not capable of being a politician.
>she has held out through the entire election just fine.
Not really, all her allies are abandoning ship.
>>710470536
>"low information" voters
>redundant
You could have just said "voters." That's accurate the vast majority of the time.
>>710470573
That's nearly impossible with ME
>>710471647
delusional faggot.
put your money where your mouth is. how much on Trump?
I'll bet up to $10,000 on a Hillary win.
>right now
>>710454920
New Hampshire, Maine, Nevada, and probably Florida are all wrong.
Considering Trump needs every single one of those to win, it's pretty much over.
Now stop being a faggot and deal with it.
>>710466110
>big fat fucking lies
Voter fraud is nothing but Republican propaganda used to disenfranchise voters.
The number of disenfranchised legal voters far exceeds the insignificant few fake votes, and they're almost all Democrat.
>>710455671
It appears the election will be close. I doubt Donal Trump will win. I hope he wins so this can send a strong message to all the other corrupt politicians that people are sick of their bullshit. I'm not American but i hope other countries adhere to this message. We will not be treated with contempt any longer. So yes i hope he wins
>>710454920
Does this take into account the twenty million people that have already voted?
>>710472467
>doesn't understand the electoral college & the entire method of voter fraud
To be successful in voter fraud, you use the election system to your advantage. 0.003% of the US population is nearly 1 million people. 1 million people is enough to sway dozens of extremely important counties. If enough counties are swayed, it can turn a state. If even one swing state (like Florida) is swayed, that rigs the election.
You don't need many false votes to change everything. Voter fraud is a major issue. Your assessment is complete bullshit.
>>710467285
Dubs and this is a Hugh thread.
>>710454920
It will be 269-269. The next few weeks will be really tense.
>>710467651
I wonder which ethnic group uses welfare the most in the US.
ANY GUESSES???
>>710463568
I'm not an expert in how American law works but in the hypothetical that she wins now and then gets indicted/jailed before January what happens? Does Kaine get it as her VP as if she had been in office and died, or is there another vote?
Not like I think its going to happen, it won't, I just don't know what goes on in that hypothetical
>>710467735
You mad brown boi? fuccboi you wish you were this pale and sickly, I can see all my veins through my translucent reptile skin. You wish you could get a sunburn in .02 seconds you mad faggot.
>>710465118
Well, the only reason republicans usually put up strong numbers in Florida is because all those old folks like voting for establishment candidates. Trump is breaking those rules and throwing those same old people for a loop, hence he is losing votes there.
That's my thoughts anyway
>>710468186
Read this.
>>710473059
Whites, by total population. Blacks, by percent of their population.
President Trump is at the top in every poll!!!
hillaryfags on suicide watch!!!
>>710465393
Under Reagan, nuclear preparation "war games", almost caused an actual strike from the soviets. If anything, he was closest to igniting the cold war after Kennedy and the bay of pigs/intercepting soviet subs off cuba
>>710472825
it's .003% of voters, not the entire population, so it's about 1/3 as many, and it's still a small fraction of Democrat votes stolen by Republican cheating.
You lose, dummy
>>710473280
Actually the old folks are going for Hillery because they remember Bill. The thing is a lot of them are being turned to Trump because of Hillary's corruption.
>>710473189
She would be impeached, and forced out of office. Then likely indicted, tried, and jailed. The VP would then take her spot, but he'd likely be impeached too because he's neck-deep in Hillary's shit. Then all hell breaks loose...
>>710470019
>white
das rasis
>>710473459
>Republican cheating.
Democrats are the ones that have dead people voting for them.
>>710473390
>typical Trump retard
KEK
>>710472749
I fucking love these ms paint memes, got more?
>>710473459
>it's .003% of voters, not the entire population
That's still 400,000 people, in 2012. Which is still more than enough to sway dozens of counties. Which is more than enough to sway more than one swing state. Which means you're still wrong, and your argument is shit.
>>710473581
The only actual voter fraud so far has come from a Trump supporter.
KYS faggot
>>710473729
no, because that's all voters and Republicans are the ones that cheat most of the time.
Just like this year, and the stupid Trump supporter bitch that tried to vote twice.
>>710473679
>photoshop
>>710473863
>no
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/national-polls/
>>710473604
Nice source.
>>710473337
Which ethnic group makes up 30% of the population but takes more welfare and commits more crime than any other ethnic group in the US?
ANY GUESSES?
>>710474089
Blacks are 13% of the population.
>>710473889
>fake site
>>710474089
democrats. they shoul all just die or go to mexico
>>710474213
>most accurate and trusted nonpartisan statistical analysis of polls from all other sources
KEK, you're such a bad loser
>>710456102
You one mad miyete (nigger in spanish) say some thing I'll stab a nigger just for you.
>>710473744
>2.8 million people are registered in two or more states
>1.8 million registered voters are dead
from Pew
> Democratic worker admitting to buying cars at auction and using them to transport people across state lines to selected precincts to vote illegally.
>Illegals registering to vote in Arizona
>Virginia registering non-citizens
>dozens of Colorado voters voting twice, sometimes in multiple states
>Kansas also investigating multi-state voters
>FL ballots filled, and registration filled for dead or nonexistent people
>stolen mail-in ballots in FL
>more dead people voting in Chicago, as usual. 119 so far this election
>bribes for votes in IL
>dozens of counties under investigation for voter fraud in Indiana
>Iowa, multiple votes
>Missouri, people hand-delivering absentee ballots to/from poll offices
>PA, fraudulent voter registration forms mass produced
Fuck it, that's enough. And that's not even half of it. These are all from this election cycle.
These are overwhelmingly democratic party led efforts. Go ahead, look them up. It's been going on for years.
>>710474250
>>710474089
Republicans are the welfare leeches
Do you even know what pork barrel spending is?
>>710474089
>30%
WRONG.
>takes more welfare
WRONG.
>commits more crime
WRONG
LOL grow a brain your fucking retard. You just embarrassed the FUCK out of yourself.
>13%
>29% of welfare (60-65% is used by uneducated white conservatives)
>only if you filter it to violent crime, otherwise "whites".
THIS kind of shit is why NO ONE takes morons like you seriously anymore. This is the information age. You know that computer thingie you're arguing on right now? Did you know that it is actually possible to LOOK THINGS UP on it? That's right! It's not just for giving Nigerian royalty your routing numbers!
>>710473823
You claimed that voter fraud is bullshit, a non-issue. And now that I've proven you wrong, you claim it's the republicans doing it? Way to move the goalposts. Just admit you're wrong, faggot.
See this pot, about who is behind voter fraud >>710474388. Use fucking Google to find out which party is driving it. Because you sure as hell won't take my word on it.
>>710474559
>>710474559
It is insignificant, which is why I don't worry about it.
Have you ever even voted? That's clearly all fucking bullshit.
>>710474559
Voter suppression is not voter fraud.
Voter fraud IS a non-issue. It happens extremely rarely, is almost always caught, and, most importantly, has never been and could never be done on a scale that would actually be able to influence the main election in ANY way.
And >>710473823
is right, the majority of those caught perpetrating "multiple ballot" type fraud were doing so for REPUBLICAN candidates.
>>710474481
You got me, I'll rephrase the question.
Which ethnic group makes up 13% of the population, takes 29% of all welfare and commits more VIOLENT crime than any other group?
GUESS AWAY
>>710474481
Are you high? Or are you being intentionally obtuse? I cannot fathom the idea that someone who is able to turn on a computer and use the internet could be as inane as you.
Well, now the Democrats got that kick in their complacency they needed.
Now we'll see.
>>710474481
Actually, you should lower that down to 6% committing over half the murders, over half the robberies, over a quarter of the rapes, and over a quarter of the aggravated assaults since it's mostly black men who commit them.
>>710467231
I need facts nigger
>>710474762
>has never been and could never be done on a scale that would actually be able to influence the main election in ANY way.
1960, you retard.
>Kennedy won IL by 9000 votes, when Nixon carried 92 of 101 counties. Estimates of the fraudulent votes in Chicago are well over 100,000.
>Kennedy won Texas by a 1%. He won counties where there were more votes than total registered voters, by huge margins (upwards of 50%). This absolutely won the state for him, as well as the election.
So fuck you. You are pulling shit out of your ass, writing off legitimate concerns that have decided elections. In the favor, as usual, of democrats.
>inb4 fuck you republican. I was a democrat, and changed to independent because the two party system is shit.
>>710474481
COME at me nigger
>>710475649
Any one can make a graph like that ass wipe.
>>710475649
This was in 2010 .... what a nigger.
>>710474826
Here's a hint, it's not white people.
>>710456102
MUP DA DOO DIDDA PO MO GUB BIDDA BE DAT TUM MUHFUGEN BIX NOOD COF BIN DUB HO MUHFUGGA
>>710475649
even my grandma with parkinson can fake a better graph in paint.
>>710476044
Astrological representations of the planets Venus and Mars.
Hillary = more muslims
Trump = less muslims
>TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP
>>710476902
Guess again! One more hint, it's not Asian people.
>>710477147
hispanic trash?
>>710477147
It's the Inuits, right?
>>710477583
>>710477699
WRONG
close though.
