Justify voting for Trump without using either Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders as strawmen.
>>710336862
i identify with him. whats good for him is good for me.
>>710337043
May I ask why you think he cares about anyone but himself?
>>710337043
lol you're dumb
>>710336862
fuck muslim culture
>>710337043
You're a 70 year old billionaire who can't get a bank loan or investors in order to gain capital for future business proposals because you've repeatedly filed for bankruptcy?
>>710336862
He's going to save western civilisation from filthy illegal immigrants, insane leftists, Muslims and ISIS-loving cucks. He's promoting pride in national identity and not pandering to negroids. He's against political correctness. He's also not a career politician.
He also understands memes and isn't trying to ban them.
>>710336862
OP clearly doesn't know what a strawman argument is.
If your asking for my justification for voting in a situation where 1 of 2 candidates will win, having the reason of voting against 1 candidate is NOT a strawman argument for voting for the other candidate.
An example of a strawman argument would be if OP asked "why would trump be a good president?" and I were to answer "because hillary would be a bad president"
>>710336862
He wants to ally with Russia to get rid of ISIS.
He wants to lower taxes.
He wants to deport illegal immigrants.
It will be really, really, really, really, really funny to watch every phony celebrity shit their pants if he wins. I hope at least one actually does "move to Canada". Plus I can't think of a better punishment for all the career politicians than to have to call Donald Trump 'Mr. President'
OP's argument is retarded
The whole appeal of trump is that he is not Hillary
Most people's reasoning for voting for him is "because I'll be damned if I'm going to vote for that scumbag criminal bitch"
I myself am a trump supporter, but I don't like him as a candidate. Only as an option.
>>710336862
>Fla speech
Op is a faggot
>>710337340
I didn't say you couldn't bring them up, you just can't strawman. For example claiming that Hillary wants to take your guns and is conspiring with "international bankers" to end US sovereignty.
I think it's funny to watch libtards get butthurt
He's a dog, a mutt, a punk, a clown, stupid, a pig, a bullshit artist, an idiot, national disaster, this fool, this bozo, he's a nerd, he's bisexual, he's a Mexican, he's a Muslim,he brings drugs, he brings crime, he's a rapist, a drunk and drug addict..
and I'm Voting for Trump.
>>710337734
>implying rules for reasons
>not reading wl
Ctr thread is sage
>>710337337
WRONG
>>710336862
PROTIP: Trump supporters can't.
>>710337958
If I'm CTR does that make you Nimble America? Grow up. This is just a thinking exercise.
>>710337734
>Evidence that this is exactly the case
>Can't bring it up
GTFO and go correct your moms tendies you little shit.
>>710336862
I'm a queer Muslim half black binary trans fluid, pansexual, demigod semi asexual transracial gender fluid Hispanic Jewish Rabbi a quarter Chinese, one-third Eskimo, also vapes
and I'm voting for Trump
>>710337990
i feel he would be entertaining, with the least minimal negative impact on myself personally.
selfishly, i feel he would provide nothing for me aside from great entertainment.
cannot say the same about your strawmen.
i'm not voting for him btw but you wanted a justification so there you go, if i were to be.
>>710338079
They literally have already in this thread before you posted
>>710336862
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YY-CiPVo_NQ
I want to see the world burn.
>>710336862
>easy
The balance of the Supreme Court for the next 50 years
>>710338237
Because you can't think of a reason to vote for him as opposed to against her? Also it's a god damned exercise. I'm not expecting you to change your vote. I'm going to make one for Clinton later.
>>710338351
Who are you voting for then cuckold
>>710336862
kill all sand niggers trump dosint go far enuf
BLOOD IN THE STREETS BLOOOD IN THE STREEEETS
>>710337990
whoa you showed him
>>710337734
It's not a strawman if it's true kiddo
>>710336862
>says not to debate using strawman fallacy
>uses strawman fallacy
>>710338524
lol johnson.
>>710338492
He will pick his sister if we are lucky. Obama offered a very reasonable choice but the Republican party turned it down.
>>710338764
God damn that guy is a total cuck who answers every question with "dude weed" then gets pissed off when told experts say his economic plans don't work and talks about weed more
>>710336862
>not voting for the true winner of this election
Hillary is a career criminal. I would vote for satan before hillary. I trust him much more.
>>710338454
Oh hail Emperor God King Trump.
Save us from those who have fucked up America, and you know who..
Why are Trump supporters so easily offended?
>>710336862
he's great. he wants to make america great again. i like america. i want it to be great. go trump 2016
>>710338974
Sand in their vaginas.
>>710338974
This is a strawman btw
no strawmaning yet that's what all the shills are doing to trump? oh well. i support trump to heal us-Russian relations, to help end this third wave feminism garbage, to lower business taxes, he supports the military, he supports the police, he draws huge crowds of people, he's charismatic as hell, he raised some very good kids, he has a successful business(inb4 4 bankruptcies, he's had hundreds of businesses), he believes in the constitution, he wants to fix immigration, he doesn't want refugees, and all in all he is just the american capitalist(i hate socialism with a passion)
>>710338764
>aleppo
haha
>>710336862
I wanted Bernie, the left gave me Hillary and now I want to burn the fucker down with trump.
That's not a straw man and it's a legit reason. Your move OP.
>>710337193
i dont.
>>710337329
yes
>>710339229
So how can you identify with someone who only cares for himself?
>>710339129
The first person to actually do the assignment right. Remember folks, this isn't a debate. It's an exercise. Don't argue
>>710336862
Hillary Clinton isn't a strawman, she's a smoking gun
>>710337329
>this is what liberals with no understanding of business actually believe
thx John Oliver and liberal arts degrees
>>710338952
i fucking wish
>>710339283
Because i only care about myself...
>>710338149
If you're not ctr you're like 1 in 200 as threads on 4chan go, so please don't expect me to take your "thinking exercise" seriously.
>nimble america
>proving the point
>>710336862
I'm a nationalist he's a nationalist. Pretty simple.
>>710339283
Not a debate.
Every election cycle, voters choose establishment candidates that ultimately do nothing to change the lives of the voters and those same voters then bitch about the lack of progress or change, only to vote again for a toe-the-line partisan establishment politician to do the same. Trump is an actual maverick and both sides hate him because he might fuck their scheme up.
Also, I agree with his position to honor and obey the immigration laws as they stand. This idea that he's on a racist deportation rampage is complete bullshit.
I also would like to see what he does for the country in terms of trade.
>>710339152
ikr
>implying i care
also
https://youtu.be/Y2KWfTWDs7Y
>>710339189
if you justify your support for trump by saying that you had supported bernie, you are downright mentally handicapped or are just following whatever you think is hip and cool. bernie and hillary actually align on some issues whereas trump is as far from bernie as you can get.
the biggest mistake EVERYONE at election time makes is thinking one man or woman can enrich our lives.
Genuine question, Trump supporters. How many of you here acknowledge that you are racist and would willingly admit it in person if you were asked?
>>710339406
Sure, CTR is paying hundreds of people to spam 4vhan, as opposed to say Reddit where the threads stay up. Makes perfect sense.
>>710336862
he is not a politician
thats why i am voting for him
Anybody who supported Bernie is a fucking retard who doesn't know anything of economics.
t. economist and political science major
>>710336862
...ah yes, dumbass trolling, I remember this well.
Voting for Trump? Wait, a vote for being raped up the ass with barbed wire for the next 30,000 years because he would immediately embezzle the US budget and flee the country?
>>710339516
i dont think you read his entire post, or are failing to comprehend it.
>>710339614
everyone is racist and discriminates to a degree. You asking others to acknowledge it if they're Trump supporters is a loaded question. For the last two years the racist vitriol has been found mostly on the left.
>>710339189
Move? You're missing the entire point of the thread.
>>710339516
That's the fucking point. Hence "burn the fucker down."
You're pretty slow.
>>710339713
where's the failure to comprehend? his only want is childish revenge or what? there's no justification for going from bernie > trump.
>>710339880
Again. Slow.
>>710339880
This isn't a thread to debate in.
>>710339129
me again, honestly i would prefer if this election would have came down to sanders and Carson, i believe some very good points would have been discussed in a good fashion at the debates and there wouldn't be all this shit slinging. i guess people will always vote for the loudest candidates
>>710339647
>the direction of the worlds remaining superpower is at stake
>nah, can't afford to compensate neets to do what they might do normally
>comparing plebbit to church of latter day image boards
Not an argument
>>710336862
His foreign policy is actually well thought out and thorough.
Also, his Healthcare plan won't be a disaster lime obamacare.
>>710338974
>>710339408
OK now justify voting for Hillary.
Let's see how that goes.
Any reason I've seen NOT to vote for him has had to do with petty personal character and for that matter, would only affect new liberal feminazi, gender-fluid, reality-denying, chronic-victim academics.
The Supreme Court appointment is actually the most important thing of our generation and I'd rather that appointee be conservative rather than someone fitting the description above.
I'm racist, sexist garbage and I finally have a candidate that represents me fully.
>>710339976
I actually think you're missing the point entirely here.
>>710340292
That's because you can't read right
>>710339763
Racism and prejudice are two different things. Not everyone is racist. I specifically asked for those acknowledge that they are to say so. I don't believe in the far left's definition of racism so I don't deny that there are racists everywhere. I just want to know who they are.
>>710340225
I am a criminal, and she proves criminals can get away with murder. I support that. I will use her name in court to get out of any possible charge against me.
Nah, I'm voting for Trump
>>710338624
it's how our future president wins all debates faggot
he's going to build a wall
he knows we are paying 5x what we should for every little thing
he recognizes the massive conspiracy to destroy the USA from within
he wants to create jobs and CUT taxes
he wants to fire the failures in the VA and actually get someone competent in there
>>710338382
WRONG
>>710338971
We can start with tumblr
>>710340433
>wut
>>710339312
You can't stop the flow of discussion of an image board fucking tard
HEY GUYS, GUESS WHAT WE FOUND IN WIKI LEAKS.
HERE THEY ARE SELLING CHILDREN
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/26263
>>710340682
Wrong
>>710340688
>tumblr & /b/ two sides of the same coin
>>710340555
Check'd. Also the way to fix the problems with the VA is to hire Current and former soldiers to run the place. Enough with hiring fat black women who don't give a shit about the life of soldiers.
>>710340417
thats not even an argument, but i dont expect CTR to pay people to actually have a point
>>710340817
My life is a lie
>>710340732
You fucking retard fag
Voting for donald trump is a way to increase american funds as well as bolster Americans ego. He will create a generation of fine alphas and possibly plunge the world into choas. Its good for america and hopefully humanity will be able to rest.
>>710340879
I'm going to save that image for next week.
>>710340992
I think it's a joke
>>710341084
it's written in code you dumbfuck. they are actually selling children. reddit and pol have been cracking away at this for hours
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/26263
>>710340992
No it is you who are retarded fagot
>>710336862
He's the biggest fuck you to the establishment still in the race and hes a big meme
>>710340292
People seem to not understand that the supreme court really is the most important thing this election. It's one of the main reasons I'm voting for Hillary, too.
>>710341224
>>710337329
Maybe he's just an accused child rapist
>>710341224
Sure it is... It appears /pol/ can turn literally anything into a conspiracy theory
>>710341474
What if /pol/ is the conspiracy?
When people accuse a billionaire of trying to steal money lmao
>>710336862
>term Limits
>universal maternity leave
>deregulation through administrative means
>no war with russia.
>>710341474
ok these are adults, and he is concerned about getting "caught by his parents for having beanie babies" "i must sell all of my beanie babies before my parents find out" "some of them are sassier than others"
there is no way to explain this email. it is clearly selling child pornography and or children.
>>710341575
But is he a billionaire? Tax returns.
I hate the hate the government for a collection of reasons.
Trump is essentially a political hand grenade.
I hope he fucks it all up.
>>710341669
Why does he need to turn over his tax returns. As a private citizen he has no need to do this, its a dumb liberal meme and a stupid fucking tradition.
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/26263
"THEY ARE VERY RESPECTFUL AND AMICABLE WITH ONE AN OTHER"
how are inanimate objects doing this? why is a 40 year old man talking about selling beaniebabies? why is he worred about "getting caught by his parents"
THIS IS PRISON. THIS IS WHAT THEY DO TO YOU IN PRISON
>>710341636
Or he's just insane. I think that's all there is here. People used to describe dolls this way. It's creepy.
>>710341824
Im you
Hes already killed the GOP his mere run has caused before-uknown levels of DC butthurt, longtime political dynasties are collapsing. THe colluding media is in full panic, Billionaire donors wasting millions in a futile attempt to save the Washington machine.
Bushes, Clintons, Reid, Pelosi, GOP, DNC, Obama I wish the whole lot of them would go die and leave us alone forever.
>>710341843
If Trump can hammer Obama about his birth certificate endlessly, then the libs get to hammer Trump on his returns endlessly. It's fair play.
prison is a bad place for pedophiles. for people who sell children it is not a very nice place
>118 replies
>ctrl+F "industry"
>0 results
MAGA, by bringing heavy industry back to America, the originator of automotive industry.
>>710341986
>check out Rorschach over here
>>710337734
She makes reference to local gun buybacks in America all the time, then says she wants an australian style buyback at a national level. Australia forced EVERY SINGLE GUN to be turned in. You can't deny what she says. You can argue it won't get done but I wouldn't vote for someone based off the principal of "is this or isn't this feasible"
>>710341843
>why does presidential candidate have to be transparent
Are all conservatives really this oblivious?
"we told him not to talk about his sex crimes with other inmates. he was only in there for child porn. well they found out. they rape him very badly, then poured boiling water all over him. he died a few days later."
>>710342171
>forces industry back into country
>economic failure the likes of which we've never seen
>>710342171
>not thinking about how machines will make this a moot point
>for the middle class at least
>>710339354
us banks won't even loan to him anymore.
>>710341669
>>710341843
>>710342220
Taxes aren't required to be presented to be president.
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/26263
this is only one of OVER HALF A MILLION emails.
>>710342220
No, just the ones on /b/ and /pol/. There are alot of reasonable conservatives, but they visit respectable online clubhouses
>like Breitbart
>>710336862
This is a bullshit argument.
It's widely known that both D and R party options are a vote for lesser evils. This year, people aren't voting for their favorite, they're voting just to make sure their most unsavory candidate doesn't make it.
For many (if not most) a vote for EITHER candidate is a hedge against what you hate most... In such a scenario it's difficult to rationalize without naming your opponent.
Not a politician. Has been saying he wanted to change this country for the better in certain ways since the 80s. Never changed his position on it either. Has very little to gain from this presidency in all reality.
Seems like he wants to genuinely help this country. Politicians are bought and sold, and don't care for the people anymore.
do you think this is a motherfucking game? do you think we are going to let you sell children USING THE CLINTON FOUNDATION? do not bother trying to leave the country.
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/26263
>>710342171
Bringing back heavy industry could either be the greatest thing to our economy, or the most destructive thing. It depends on how it's handled. Lets look at two different ways
>Reducing regulations and taxes on domestic businesses
This is a positive way to bring them back. When companies can manufacture goods and services domestically it cuts out the middle man and a dependency on foreign economies, making our economy much more stable
>Imposing stricter tariffs and regulations to economically force companies back into the county
This would be incredibly hurtful. All you're doing is tagging on a bunch of costs that the consumer will end up paying for, and the only person who wins in this equation is the government with their ability to steal even more money about from the private sector. While bringing back the companies might serve some good purpose, it will ultimately hurt our economy rather than helping it.
>>710336862
If you are a one issue voter, like abortion - then trump is your only choice.
that is the only reason I can see. he is basically a conman. He has no idea what he is doing from a policy point of view.
He has said he will de-regulate banks and remove the restrictions put on them after 2008. How ANYONE can think he is for the "little guy" is beyond me.
DO YOU THINK THIS IS A MOTHERFUCKING GAME?
>>710342220
>>710342179
>>710342045
>lol you have to show me your taxes
no he doesnt, for the record Obama doesnt need to show his birth certificate and Hillary doesnt have to show her health records.
why are liberals so fucking absolutist.
>>710336862
It'll make you cry like the bitch you are.
>>710342171
>by bringing heavy industry back to America
so, you are cool with being forced to buy some piece of shit made in america car that costs 2x as much?
>>710336862
it would be really really funny for the next 4 years
>>710342901
>implying he would step down after 4 years
>>710336862
I'm tired of the politically correct bullshit out of all the others
also sick of watching candidates pander to lowlifes, illegals and over-educated, under-employed idiot hipster bartenders, baristas and McDonalds employees
Trump just dont give a fuck and I think thats what we need right now
>>710342792
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/policies
I unironically like many of his polices, which compared to Hillary's are great.
Hillary's policy is to continue what weve done since the late 80's. Great plan!!!
when people claim Trump "has no policy" thy simply reveal they have no idea what they are talking about.
>>710336862
less mariachi music
>>710342811
I'm not saying he has to, but libs have every right to hammer him on it dipshit. Of course Obama didn't have to show his birth certificate, but that didn't stop Trump from using to to drum up nationalist heat.
IIt's politics, mane
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/26263
MOTHERFUCKER PLAYTIME IS OVER. I FIND OUT YOUR SELLING KIDS I WILL FUCKING SKIN YOU ALIVE. YOU THINK THIS IS A JOKE? YOU THINK WE WILL LET YOU GET AWAY WITH THIS SHIT? YOUR FUCKING DONE.
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/26263
>>710342671
The problem is he is so self centered and myopic that I genuinely believe even if he had the nation's interest in mind, I don't think he'd be capable of fully understanding the nation's problems. He'd end up fixing the wrong things, in his favor.
And I say this as someone who would vote for him...if I was forced to vote this year.
>>710342943
i dont think the usa could tolerate 2 terms of trump in reality
>>710343145
Chill the fuck out nigga. One can only take so much shitpost
The enemy of my enemy is who I will be voting for
>>710343370
The Cubs won the World Series a year after it was predicted. I'm sure two terms of Trump is appropriate for the end of civilization.
>>710343074
No this isnt a game of tit for tat and grab ass, I dont care if its fair, I dont care if "he did it first"
Grow the fuck up and understand what is actually a requirement to run for president.
1. Natural born US citizen
2. at least 35 years old
3. live in US at least 14 years before the election
based on that its actually more relevant to figure out Obama's birth certificate than the Hillary's health records or Trump's taxes.
none of them have to reveal private information, I hate mob rule horseshit like that.
>>710343145
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo
>>710342971
This is a valid argument for a vote for trump.
No matter what you think about policy on regulations/business, a vote for clinton is a vote for establishment.
>>710343411
are you so sure i'm kidding? if i ever find someone who is selling kids i will certainly fucking skin them alive. much much much much much much more to come soon. by the way what do you think this email means?
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/26263
>>710343481
fuk it bring on the post apocylpse, i got a gun and so can u
>>710342811
His entire campaign revolvers around the fact he's supposed to be uber rich. So he should show us. Anyway it's all beside the point. This has moved to Hillary.
>>710343559
seriously what the fuck did i just read? are they selling kids? dude wht the fuck. is that wikileaks?
>>710343159
That's possible. But isn't voting giving someone the benefit of the doubt? If someone has been talking about the same things for 30+ years don't you think he actually wants to do those things to benefit our country?
>>710343411
dont even reply to the shill
>>710336862
Easy, he's the only candidate who's strong enough a supporter of the 2nd amendment.
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/26263
nigger who the fuck wrote this? this is just disturbing
>>710343532
But, it is a game? You didn't know that? Trump gave up moral/ethical high ground long ago. Everything is fair game, especially when your opponent is a Clinton. Grow the fuck up, fuckwit, learn how the game is played, then come talk to me about fair.
>>710336862
He is a bussiness man who will fix all the horrible things obama has done.
>>710343370
Don't have to worry about 2 terms, just think what 1 term would do.
I think 4 years of deadlock inaction under a trump presidency would be the greatest catalyst for change this country has ever seen.
It just might be enough to bring about a real leader capable of fixing something. A clinton presidency won't end in ruin... But if you currently think the country is in a poor state, don't expect clinton to do anything but prolong the pain.
>>710343819
$20 is a great deal tho
>>710343968
it means 20000 as far as we know. we arn't sure yet. and we think 480 means 48 kids or some shit.
>>710343638
No he shouldn't, you want him to show you.
>>710343902
Once again, he doesn't have to there are very simple requirements to be president, im sorry your childlike minds cant comprehend this.
>>710342352
And who's gonna make and service the machines?
Also, with a job surplus labor should be as cheap as machines.
>>710342871
Why does it have to be a piece of shit? I spent a lot of time with my grandparents growing up and they had one washing machine, one fridge and one car their whole lives. With decades of unfaltering service with little to no maintenance.
If I was told that I can buy appliances @ 2x price but with a decade no maintenance service guaranteed, I'd go right ahead.
>>710343819
this guy put so much money into beanie babies what an idiot, i can see why you guys vote trump.
>>710343559
>are you sure I'm kidding
The better question is, do you think I care? I'm not going to read the email, I don't care about the email, and I care even less about your "outrage" over it. Get fucked kiddo. Or get sold, then fucked, whatever.
>>710343719
You don't have to look back 30 years to hear trump supporting the Clintons. Again , I'd vote trump if I were forced, but I don't think optimism is required to vote for him, or any. I firmly beleive both candidates are poor options.
The problem is I (we) don't have options.
>>710343757
>shill
Troll confirmed, I can disregard anything you say now. Thanks kiddo!
>>710344188
>this
nobody cares what some shill thinks about an email
>>710344142
Not the middle class people who have spent most of their lives working as the machines. Giving them classes to educate the most of them on how to make and service the machines will cost money. More money than it would cost to pay for machines that require little service, and can be kept up to scratch by a specialist/s who doesn't require extra tender.
>>710344311
just how stupid are you exactly?
Trump's an absolute idiot, who failed at being a mediocre businessman, his net worth would be higher if he invested daddy's money into stocks. He can barely be politically consistent, inconsistent and incredibly egocentric. He's the result of the Republican party drifting more and more to the right, and they're just as responsible as he is for the shit their party's in. I'm really happy Trump won the nomination, because I think it's going to be a long time before the Republican party is electable.
However I don't blame people for not wanting to vote Hillary Clinton, she's corrupt and she's deceitful, the Democrats couldn't have picked a worse candidate. And sometimes I want Trump to win, just to see her ambitions fall flat on the fucking ground.
Anyway I don't think it's going to be that bad America. If Trump wins it'll be business as usual, and he's going to through with exactly zero of his policies. Trump's pragmatic and not an ideologue, and I don't think he'll run the white house too differently than Clinton.
>>710344122
And once again, I said I know he doesn't have to. But it's still going to be used as fodder. How dumb can you be, m80? This is politics. This is a game. Do you understand that?
>>710344401
>mediocre businessman, his net worth would be higher if he invested daddy's money into stocks
I dont care if you dont like him but this statement just proves that you are a complete retard.
>>710344188
what i'm trying to say is child abuse is unacceptable. now that we have lots and lots of evidence of it, we can use it to to prosecute. the good thing about these people is they believe they are immune. so we will be able to catch them of many more felonies.
>>710344451
>this is a game
>you should do something you dont have to do to win it because I said so
k m8-o
>>710344142
Sure there will be people making/maintaining machines, but it WILL still equate to less people employed. One human per 10 human replacing machines still means 9 net loss human jobs.
Don't think innovation means anything but less work. Human labor is always one of the highest costs of doing business--dont ever assume it's a business interest to increase labor costs.
>>710344321
And no body cares about the email. Suck it up, buddy. Go find a kiddy diddler and skin them alive. There's alot of them on /b/, go try the loli threads, or the Dropbox threads. You don't care about shit. You're a sanctimonious nitwit who keeps shitposting the same thing and acting outraged. Get fucked, kiddo.
>>710344451
Trump's playing 16D competitive Dota 2 by not releasing his taxes.
>>710344488
“no major US company has filed for Chapter 11 more than Trump’s casino empire in the last 30 years.”
You're really deluded
>>710344382
Just stupid enough to troll retards on /b/. How stupid are you?
>>710344727
read the thing you replied to over again, slowly this time.
>>710336862
You posted this before without including Bernie and someone blew you the fuck out so bad you had to remake it and change the goalposts to not look like a retard
>>710336862
Because Kanye didn't run
>>710344874
/thread
>>710344500
All things you just said I agree with.
>>710336862
Justify voting for Hillary without using Trump or Bernie as strawmen.
Justify voting for Bernie without using Trump or Hillary as strawmen.
Justify voting for Jeb without using Trump or Hillary as strawmen.
Justify voting for Stein without using Hillary or Trump as strawmen.
This election has literally come down to voting for the lesser evil. Not using the other candidates to compare is impossible at this point.
>>710344874
>>710344940
>not an argument
>>710344852
>admitting stupidity
must be 7D Tetris you're playing there.
>>710344809
>trumps Cassino
>major company
K
also he has dozens of businesses and 4 went through chapter 11 for debt restructuring.
Companies do it all the time. That's why every state has multiple bankruptcy courts
>>710344541
He doesn't have to "do it to win", but it's ammunition that will be used against him. I know it's hard to grasp that there's mudslinging in politics, but it's true! Welcome to the political process, kiddo.
>>710344787
I don't know what that means, but I agree.
>>710344870
No.
>>710336862
Because he holds a hard line against Islam and illegal immigration. Because he's advocates for the little guys. Because he is an unapologetic asshole like myself. Because he speaks truth to power.
>>710345091
I don't know what that means, but sure.
>>710345094
“Had the celebrity businessman and Republican presidential candidate invested his eventual share of his father’s real-estate company into a mutual fund of S&P 500 stocks in 1974, it would be worth nearly $3 billion today, thanks to the market’s performance over the past four decades. If he’d invested the $200 million that Forbes magazine determined he was worth in 1982 into that index fund, it would have grown to more than $8 billion today.
Even the smaller figure exceeds the lower range of his possible net worth as reported to the Federal Election Commission, while the larger number exceeds by billions recent estimates of Trump’s worth by financial publications. And it would have come without the high-drama, roller-coaster career that has included four corporate bankruptcies.”
>>710344999
Trips confirmed
>>710345258
Ok well I was agreeing with you tard.
>>710344727
I care about the emails.
It's a clear indication that clinton thinks she is above rule. The Democrats made the rule to not allow private emails because of the bafoonery of the bush administration. Additionally we know classified data was transmitted, regardless of intent.
I had a position requiring a top secret clearance. In NO uncertain terms it was explained to me that intent had no bearing in the event of a breach that was my fault. I signed the same NDA as her. If I made a simple mistake, I'd lose my job. If I made a mistake due to gross negligence, they'd prosecute me. If I intentionally built a system to transmit that data ony own, they'd start muttering 'traitor' under their breath.
I can't vote for someone that has fully demonstrated they are not subject to the same laws and restrictions as I.
>>710344224
Well you're entitled to believe that. I think Trump is not a perfect candidate, but definitely one of the best since at least Al Gore.
Look at the reason Obama won, he ran on the thought that he could change our corrupt political system, and make the people who were in charge of the real estate collapse pay for their crimes. But it turns out he's a fucking politician, didn't mean any of it, pardoned wallstreet and lied about his health care reform.
Politicians can't go against the grain, because they are all part of the same elite class. Trump can legitimately do better for our country and not have to worry about the special interest groups he's affiliated with. He's the best candidate we could hope for. Even if he's rough around the edges.
>>710345028
Doesn't need to be. Guy shifted the goal post, he committed an fallacy and was wrong to do so. He doesn't get to sit at the big boys table with that kind of behaviour.
>>710345328
It was hard to tell, sorry m80.
>>710345372
>traitor
what
>>710336862
well lad eu fag here from neutral point i see it like this
>Rothschild get hacked
>few days ago 30gb of leaks got out
>all pdf doc etc files
>Rothschild fund 150$ mil to Hillary campaign
the only option murifaggs not to have a jew puppet president is Trump but hey its your country
pic relate
>>710345314
>with the power of hindsight I could have made more money leaving it in my roth IRA
Maybe his goal isnt just to make the most money but to develop realestate?
you armchair economists are fucking annoying, if its so easy to make this kind of money then I cant wait to see your hotels pop up all over the world.
>>710342366
He doesn't need loans you fuckin twat topkek
>>710345372
OK, cool, don't vote for her then?
>>710344142
>If I was told
That's an appliance, not a Ford. Also, if the fridge came out any time between the 40s and the 60s, chances are it was not that great of a fridge, and probably ended up costing them more in electricity as time passed.
With cars? Cars prior to the mid 70s didn't have crumple zones, and insurance and the rules of the road were different then, so enjoy dying from being tapped from behind in a metal coffin. On the flip side, cars back then also weren't kitted out with all kinds of junk and microprocessors and expensive electronics that are liable to fault, so that's probably why they got by with exactly one car their whole lives.
He's a big fuck you to the corrupt establishment. He many not care about me or whatever, but it's quite clear the establishment, known for being extremely corrupt does not want him in their fold. Which is more than good enough for me. They need to understand that the people decide the the government, not the other way around
>>710345372
>not using Hillary/Bernie as a strawman
>>It's a clear indication that clinton thinks she is above rule
u wot m8?
read OP, thats not an acceptable argument
>>710337337
/thread
>>710336862
Hes a man of strong character, and I like him
>>710345532
Intentionally circumventing controls on classified or compartmentalized info is subject to prosecution via the Espionage Act.
It's a very real threat, and they've called many a whistleblower one for much less an infraction.
>>710345683
He's a big fuck you to just about everything else, as well.
>>710345494
not him but this is clearly a different thread
>>710345725
Zoz beat me to it m80
everything about trump is pretty decent, atleast its not all lies.
so ya, there ya go.
oh and the ONLY FUCKING REASON some people dont like trump, THE ONLY, is because he is successful or famous and they are pieces of shit.
not trolling, 100% fucking serious, you people do not help the world spin, u people do not help our species, you should kill yourselves or atleast get a job.
>>710342184
Kek that was one of the best moments of my life when that niggers teleprompter broke
>>710345683
He only intends to better the country for himself, and yet he's a fuck you to the establishment, so you'll vote for him? I think you need to rethink your priorities.
>>710345613
Yea, that's kind of the point of my statement, smarty-pants.
Don't think of me as a threat to you or your argument though. I'm not too fond of trump, and will be choosing to live my life regardless of the election turnout
Same reason I voted for Bill Clinton (initially), because he's honest. He put his bullshit up front, he doesn't try to hide it.
>>710345765
Exactly. I'm so fucking sick of the establishment looking down on it's citizens like uneducated garbage and treating them even worse. Trump is a clear threat to them which is why they are trying so ludicrously hard to try to stop him.
>>710345872
>ONLY FUCKING REASON
Try again. Nobody helps the world spin; the world will spin regardless of who's on it.
>or are you one of those flat earthers
>>710345683
He *is* the corrupt establishment, you moron. Also the chance that a real-estate tycoon isn't in bed with the mob is 0.
>>710345971
Yes, but he's a clear threat to just about everything else, as well.
>>710345872
>not trolling
>must be inbred
>>710346017
fuck off iq 70-90 autistic cunt, i read your msg but it apperently wasnt important enough to finish compiling.
>>710345951
Yes. The establishment needs to learn that the people it's been stepping on for years and years and years actually have some power. I don't care if he changes literally nothing. The fact that the media and the government is literally fucking panicking shows that he is threat to their all encompassing power. And it's about time they were taught that the people who they view as little more than garbage have some strength too.
I too am an insecure pretend billionaire.
>>710346017
dude don't make fun of him for believing the earth is flat, you'll hurt his feelings. Trump fuels the world's spinning motion with the millions he saves by not paying taxes.
>>710345955
But the point of the thread is
>why Trump w/out talking about Hillary
Which you couldn't manage.
>>710346034
No he's not. The establishment I'm referring to is the gov.
I get that he's not awesome. It's not like I don't seem him for the horrible sham he is. But at this moment he's all we've got.
>>710346057
And I say good. The way the government is run now is terrible and corrupt. Maybe he should be a threat.
>>710345725
Fuck off,
I've said it above, it's widely known many are voting with a middle finger this year. Both candidates suck, so it's impossible to NOT mention the opposition in your thesis...because the thesis is simply...I DONT LIKE THE OTHER GUY.
Fuck you and your double strawman argument.
>>710346133
yeah must be difficult for your primitive brain to compile such complex words so quickly.
>>710338952
please (You)
>>710346133
>70-90 iq
>autism
>msg
>apperently
>to finish compliling
>had to finish compiling my reply
>(?)
Fun fact: Average world IQ is ~88.
>>710345826
Doesn't excuse that kind of bullshittery. Guy had his request adequately fulfilled and when he didn't like the answer he got, he change the criteria. That shit doesn't fly with me.
>>710346303
Exactly OP's point. You're all just cousin fuckers.
>>710345971
Check out the level of discourse in this thread and you might understand why they'd think that
He's not a politician.
He doesn't say things that are "politically correct."
He offends the Social Justice Warrior libtards worldwide.
He can run a business well, and would do better for our country than any Goldman-Sachs owned candidate pushing for more wars for the military industrial complex.
>>710345872
im just glad a few people responded to me as usual, you know why? its because im right, that reason i was talking about is truth.
i troll by not trolling, i am always 100% serious in my shit talk, and i only say things that effect people, if you say something that isnt true about someone, they wont give a fuck. say something thats probably true about 90% of the people and they will be offended, it hurts them.
so fuck you, worthless piece of dumb shit.
>Trump invite Clinton to his weeding
>murifaggs think they have a "choice"
>they just put up a show for you guys
>in reality they are bros
>probably now chill at mar a lago pool together
>and kek to murican voters
>>710346427
Oh I get it believe. The American people are so idiotic it hurts. 9% of people trust the media yet for some reason if it confirms our biases we all of a sudden eat that shit up.
>>710346495
He's going to put that bitch in prison.
>>710346213
I'll be real. I feel like the sensible people who, for whatever reason decide to support Trump, get shit on by the numerous unwashed masses out there who have been drilled by the Red, White and Blue mantras for so long, that their anal gape is bigger than the national debt.
It just seems like all the election did to American society, was give unfortunately ignorant/stupid people confidence to ad-lib about things they, understandably, know nothing about. Being wrong isn't bad, don't get me wrong. But, sometimes it's painfully obvious when these people make an ass of themselves for the world to see, and smile while doing it.
This is why the other issues in American society will never really be resolved. The people who need to have the discussions with one another are overshadowed and out-shouted by the dumb and the insane- on both isles.
Trump is gonna kick china in the dick. and be like her gay people, go back to sanfornando.
>>710346289
No. That's a shit argument.
Saying I can't mention my distates for the opposition is a retarded argument designed to remove the PRIMARY motive for voting this election year.
No one gives two fucks about who's best. This year is about voting with your middle finger.
I think both candidates are giant pieces of shit, and you can't nullify my need to discuss the opposition as my reason for thinking one way or another...because it'd the primary reason. I think one candidate is more shitty than the other, for reasons, and that is the influence for me and many others.
>>710346474
You've got some mad delusions, my dude.
>>710346572
Then he's going to be immediately fucking impeached because Hilary didn't do anything criminal you fucking retards.
>>710346315
yet again i was right on the button, pity you m8.
now go find a bottle of bleach n help our species clean up.
>>710346544
You gotta remember also that barely half the population even votes, and those are the "informed" ones
>>710346300
To just about everything else, notwithstanding government? Like, the American people? Like China?
>>710346303
m8 i posted this >>710342947
even a 'because he dont give a fuck' argument is acceptable
chill your butthurt. here, take a few
>>710346495
He invited Obamas brother to his last debate lol
>>710346388
Circular argument.
>>710346572
>this nigga trolling
>>710346703
It's scary isn't it? They say in a democracy you get the government you deserve. And with how dumb this population is, we probably only deserve Hillary.
>>710337337
But why do you think he has any sort of real plan to get that shit accomplished?
>>710346373
i dont see the other thread tho so i cant speak on it, other than its not a valid argument in this thread
>>710346615
>wut
>>710346685
Her entire tenure as Secretary of State was so that she could sell classified information.
Wikileaks has already fucked her.
Huma Abedin is also directly connected to the Muslim Brotherhood.
>>710336862
No one needs to justify their vote to some libtard.
>too stupid to understand what "straw man" means
just hang yourself and save the rest of us the trouble of feeding and caring for you, you mindless piece of trash
>>710346662
Then you're in the wrong thread, boyo. Take your grievances up with the OP.
>>710346594
This is always and will likely always be the case though. Those who shout the loudest are the only ones that are actually heard. Coupling that with generalizing both sides exclusively using the extremist opinions is the perfect recipe for the political disaster show we have today.
>>710346770
That would actually be more of a blessing. No one really considers what would happen, within the social fibers of Americana, if Trump were to reign supreme.
So much is confabulated these days, that the folk majority would just consume itself in a slow-burning mess because of partisanship itself bleeding into just about everything from race, to diet, to someone's favorite color.
>>710346667
ya because what i said actually has some facts that ive made prove themselves here and after the fact.
but fuck facts n shit, fuck what the man said would happen, fuck what he thought would happen and did happen, fuck that he knew that it would be the case and thats why he posted and thats what he achieved.
but i must be fucking wrong, or maby im just damn good and your the dilusional worthless fuck.
>>710346995
he even spelled delusional for you
read a book, you fucking illiterate savage
>>710346968
I honestly think the country may collapse soon. Look at the similarities between the fall of Rome and now. It's surreal.
>>710346753
because a tv show debate and private wedding are the same thing
>>710346995
>actually has some facts
>fuck facts n shit
>fuck what the man said
>what he achieved
>mayb
What are you even going on about at this point.
>>710346667
getting rekt by someone that probably has an iq of around 100-120, which is let me tell you, about what the avg person thinks is avg, its nothing special, and hes drunk.
really its just that i pick on sub human autistic fucks for fun, thats basically my hobby.
now go kill yourself, thanks, we'd appreciate it.
>>710336862
You don't understand what strawman means
>>710346357
I love when people always fall back on IQ to prove anything.
>Oh I've run out of things to scream, better try bragging about my obviously superior IQ
The best part is, I can guarantee most who brag about that have never been tested.
>>710346995
are you a nigger or simply as stupid as one?
>>710347180
OP is just a coward. Any argument using Hillary and Bernie can win it so he want's to not hear it
>>710336862
Build wall.
Foreigners are gay.
>>710346946
So the discussion here was intentionally designed to eliminate one of the major objections to the Democratic nominee?
>Please state an argument for voting for trump without highlighting the flaws of his opponent.
Op's query was bullshit to begin with. I might as well take a shit on the pile.
>>710347170
You realize that everyone can tell it's still you, right?
You're a special kind of stupid.
The stink of it is on all your posts.
>>710346572
sure
who do you think this people hang out with with some rag niggs ?
this filthy rich people are all friends or in the same social circle
>>710347105
ya well, the last comment you posted clearly stated that you could not comprehend a god damn thing, rather take things out of context and blurt an autistic response as if it was still in middleschool.
do you really think i god damn expected you to comprehend when i wrote more than a sentance?
the real question is, "what are you even living on about at this point" please do us a fucking favor.
>>710336862
>Im a retard
They're both terrible and the United States is a doomed nation set to implode in on itself.
Got my beers ready for that shit, should be fun to watch
>>710347199
That's not why I mentioned it. The post I replied to mentioned IQ, so that's where your criticism should go.
I wholeheartedly understand the nuance with the Intelligence Quotient. Even the people who design the standardized tests, and those who observe their work, don't think it's an accurate measure of intelligence- they don't even think intelligence has really been described in it's entirety as of yet.
And someone beat me to the punchline:
>>710347355
Nice dubs.
>>710346770
I was thinking the opposite. We deserve Trump as punishment for our political sins kek.
>voting Hillary, btw
>>710347199
It's not proof of a good argument, but some arguments are simply so bad that any reasonable person would suspect brain damage playing a major part in the thought process which gave rise to them.
>>710346835
>tips tinhat
>>710347309
are you fucking stupid? im not the one pretending to be anyone else, altho i did feel like maby someon did try to same fag me a minute ago, was probably your autistic ass.
its probably the kid having a hard time comprehending anything. hasnt been able to comprehend anything i write or the fact that im not infact trying to samefag or hide that i am, rather, i am blatantly trying to show im the same person, even if i didnt know it would already be pretty clear.
but ya, this is another reason you should kill yourself.
>>710347542
>fucking with autism when you havent seen its final form
If trump is elected the always offended left wing shits will go nuclear and it will be horrible.
the Internet will be better if Hillary is elected, and the Internet is all most of us have.
Vote Hillary, seriously.
Also Trump president essentially assures 8 years of Hillary starting 2020
>>710347334
I didn't take anything out of context yet, though. I'm exactly asking you to provide context, and you're being more vague than I was, when I was 14 and discovered drugs.
I don't think you think highly of anyone, because you might be having an episode of grandeur. Or pretending to be retarded, which I don't mind, because some of this is gold.
It would actually be more sad if you were of the younger variety, though. Yeah, that would actually make me feel really bad.
I'm genuinely sorry that this is the world you have to grow up in, if you're underage.
>>710347427
Ah sorry, I should have replied to the other post but yes essentially I was standing with you there.
>>710347422
>this anon know whats up
but Trump is clearly the better choice from the 2 at least he did something in his life
>>710347441
We need Trump but honestly I doubt we'll get him. I don't even think Hillary needs to cheat. We just hear a lot of nice words and go YESSSSS YESSSS WYMEN!!!! and vote for her. We don't look at the candidate critically. We just hear a lot of nice things and do it.
So honestly we deserve Hillary. We aren't ready for someone like Trump who could actually cause some change. America just hasn't had it's fill of corruption yet.
>Because a man who gets in a heated twitter war with Rosie O'Donald deserves the nuclear football
>>710347292
You're free to do whatever you want, bucko, but you failed to adhere to the topic of the thread. Either comply or get fucked. Thems yer choices.
>>710347711
She is a disgusting, shit talking slob though. I think just about everyone can agree on that.
>>710347711
This, memeing is fun and all, but when it comes to reality I'd rather have a shrewd, probably criminal, but not dangerously so, woman I disagree on a lot with, than a guy who cat keep his mouth shut when someone calls him a name.
>>710347837
agreed. but someone who is a self described genious decided to spend his time ranting and railing about said slob.
DeRp!
>>710347657
seriously, i cannot even respond to this amount of autism.
holy fuck my ass.
its not what you say or how you say it, its understanding the persons thoughts behind it.
thats comprehension, and yours went full blown fucking kill yourself please.
like did your small town just get internet or what the fuck.
>>710345594
>He doesn't need loans
Trump supporters confirmed retarded
>>710347989
I don't blame him
If I had the power to focus millions of people on someone I thought was garbage, I'd do the same
>>710347630
>>710347941
bingo.
Derp HEY its rigged!!!!! eeeEErrP
>>710348063
Go to bed Putin.
>>710348137
>Derp HEY its rigged!!!!! eeeEErrP
>>710345594
>doesn't need loans
haha
>>710347773
>Please discuss why you'd vote for trump, but if you do so by highlighting the flaws of the opposition, it's not allowed.
That is what you call an echo chamber. The only reason trump is a viable candidate is because so many fucking people dislike what current politicians have been doing. It is literally the ONLY reason he is relevant, let alone an actual candidate.
>>710348220
>taking this seriously
404 inc im out
>>710348020
It's not what you say or how you say it, but it's about understanding the person's intentions or thoughts behind it.
So, as long as I change
>its
to
>it's
You seem to be saying that it's about being telepathic and knowing the thoughts of another person, something that is both inaccessible to me as a non-telepath, and completely impossible to identify with if the person in question does not make an effort to bring those ruminations out, explicitly, and clearly, so that I can understand and introspect on the matter... because I can't read minds or know your deepest, darkest intents. You're telling me that I should ignore everything you just typed, everything that has to do with your post and grammatical structure, and just... know what you're saying, from absolutely nothing? Not even an image?
That's... that's what you call comprehension? Like, reading comprehension?
Huh.
Say, you ever been to /x/?
>>710347702
I honestly don't think Trump WANTS to be the president. He just wants the title to put on stationary and business cards, it's something that'll add a few extra zeros to his endorsement deals and speaking fees.
A vote for Trump is a vote for Pence, just like a vote for GWB was a vote for Cheney. Pence will handle all policy and do all the heavy lifting, pull all the strings, Trump just gets the new trophy for his collection.
>>710348406
and GWB was soooooooooo amazing for us
