I'm Canadian, and not for either party whatsoever. Just updating some people who think Hillary is ahead. Please share your thoughts.
>>710131582
But Hillary is ahead. Trump has already lost. Why? Because if you give Trump all of the remaining tossup states, he still doesn't get the 270 electoral votes needed to win the election. The remaining states added to his current states aren't enough for the win.
Hillary has already statistically won the election.
>>710131582
>Please share your thoughts.
This is one poll. Though it's true that Trump is gaining some ground, on average (considering the total polling landscape instead of just one poll) he's still about 5 points behind. If the current trend keeps up though, he could be ahead before election day. It's somewhat unlikely because it's unprecedented in US election history, but it's not impossible.
>>710131582
Who are these mysterious people taking polls. I never have been asked to partake in these mysterious polls.
Isn't it obvious it's all bullshit?
>>710131687
Source? Wait, there is none HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA FAGGOT
>>710131687
p r o o f
>>710131901
I was actually called by one. It kind of went like this.
Caller: Are you a registered voter?
Me: Yes
Caller: What party affiliation?
Me: Independent
Caller: Have you decided on who you will vote for in the upcoming presidential election, and if so who?
Me: Donald Trump
{click} I was abruptly hung up on. I am pretty sure that they wanted a different answer to that question, so they didn't register my vote in their polling.
>1 per cent
>>710132245
But still the polls don't represent all the people who plan to vote.
>>710131901
Apparently it's only bullshit if trump is shown being ahead. Libtard logic.
>>710132245
kek, these people have to make several hundreds of phone calls every day.
they hung up to make the next call, there's no conspiracy on the polling you fucking mongoloid. why would they even call and ask if they're going to forge the result anyway?
>>710132245
I've heard this is how it goes all the time. Trump is going to win. You have to remember that the "polls" had Jimmy Carter ahead by 8 points the day of the election in 1980. We all know how that happened. Either side saying it's already over is retarded.
>>710132390
I don't even plan to vote moron but I'm registered. I'm not even liberal. Idiot.
>>710131582
those polls do not show you what state they are voting
>>710132526
Wasn't attacking you faggot, but hysterical libtard confirmed.
>>710131582
That's the "ABC/Wash Post Tracking" poll. They've essentially shown a tie for months. The margin of error is 4% and they've never exceeded that amount in either direction. This is just more of the same.
>>710132483
Stop spreading misinformation.
>You have to remember that the "polls" had Jimmy Carter ahead by 8 points the day of the election in 1980.
>8 points
November 1980 polling average:
Reagan 47% / Carter 44%
Election result:
Reagen 51% / Carter 41%
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_polling_for_U.S._Presidential_elections#United_States_presidential_election.2C_1980
>>710131582
>I'm Canadian
Stopped reading
>>710132817
That's one poll lol
>>710132939
this.
Reagan was behind in most, and some by as much as 12 points.
>>710131901
Here's a poll for regular folks.
http://www.strawpoll.me/11309360/
>>710132619
I haven't voted since 2012. Don't plan to vote for anything anymore. Voting doesn't matter anyway and the election is already fixed. All the media covering the election is propaganda to give the illusion that there's a choice, but it's all been planned out already. It's all an act, like theater.
Voting is an act you do which legitimizes the system even though it's all a fraud. The people who vote are keeping this fraudulant system continue by acting like voting matters, but it only matters because you're helping to make it look real. The only people who are not responsible for keeping the lie perpetuating are people who don't vote. People who vote have blood their hands.
>>710132245
Here's the NYT doing something similar with their journalism.
>>710132939
History has been repeating itself for a long time now. You're probably too young to remember Harry S Truman…
>>710131687
>>710131687
>its a "stupid millennial who gets his news from buzzfeed doesnt know what the electoral college is or how it works" episode
oh the good side, at least a bunch of you retards wont vote because you think hillary already won, making it that much easier for trump
The electoral college elects the president. We don't get to see everything either. Good faith should be dead and buried at this point. But people are unable to change it, essentially. We are expected to believe in the American dream even if it's pushing up daisies thanks to money. Money makes the world go, however you want it to. You can
Be anything as long as big money backs you. Or you have it to begin with.
>>710133466
Trump voters, nor Trump himself understand how the EC works.
>>710132939
>>710133021
kek, keep believing that
>>710133021
romney was ahead in a bunch of polls to and lost by 4 million votes
Brexit was polling and predicted that Remain would win by 10% and it ended up losing by 2%
polls are mostly bullshit, and usually run by bought out media trying to influence the election
>>710133614
You think Hillary actually has won anything yet because of projected polls. Youre an idiot, thats not how the electoral college works.
As long as we have people dumb enough to believe demographics, we have an environment that can be influenced.
>>710133722
Early voting has her ahead in nearly every state too. 25% more people came out to vote and most were registered democrats.
Delusion much?
>>710131582
The media outlets are making the race look as close as possible so Clinton voters show up. The odds have changed since the third debate, but not much.
>>710133722
voting has already started in some of the key swing states like FL, NC, and PA
>>710132893
>butthurt at somebody smarter than you posting something, no matter what it is.
Trump supporter detected.
>>710133909
>PA
Nope. PA doesn't have early voting.
>>710134016
but it does you dumb ass, and hillary is ahead.
>>710134064
https://ballotpedia.org/Early_voting
>>710133570
let me explain this to you. Each state is worth a certain amount of "points" Texas is worth 38, Nevada is worth 6 ect
So in the popular election when you go out and vote, you are voting to see which candidate gets these points. If most of the state votes for the democrat, then they get those points, if most vote for the republican, then the republican gets the points.
But these arent just points, what they actually are are representatives to the electoral college. So when Louisiana for example votes to give the republican their 8 points, what they are actually doing is saying they want 8 republicans to represent their state at the electoral college, and when Wisconsin votes democrat, that means they want 10 democrats to represent them at the electoral college.
So then the electoral college gets together and they work together to decide who is going to be the next president based on this, with each state deciding who they want to essentially represent them.
For example, the reason Bush won in 2000 isnt because of Florida, its because solid blue Vermont ended up voting for him by voting for the republicans to represent them at the electoral college. This change, or "swing state" made them decide that Bush would be the best president
>>710131582
Why the fuck do you care?
Worry about your own irrelevant country.
>>710133877
>>710133909
>Early voting has her ahead in nearly every state too
No it doesnt. Shes still behind in places like Florida and Ohio. And in any case, this is goal post moving and assuming that early votes decide the election, they dont. You are clearly children and this is your first election.
>>710131582
>believing fake polls
Trump is way farther ahead.
>>710131582
>1 Per cent
Seems that Nicole can't grammar for shit
>>710131582
>Per cent
Unreadable
>>710134290
>https://ballotpedia.org/Early_voting
Wait, wait...
3 out of 4 states that legalized recreational weed have "mail-only" voting?
wut?
>>710134457
>You are clearly children and this is your first election.
I'm actually 37 and not even a US citizen.
>>710133909
Thats early voting. And the way early voting is is that you just mail in your ballot, but it cant be counted until election day, they only know if you are a republican, democrat, or maybe independent. So when they say Hillary is up in the early vote in somewhere like Virginia, all that means is that they got a bunch of early votes in from registered democrats. Some of those very well may have actually voted for someone else though.
Trump is ahead in Florida in terms of early votes though, based on the fact that mostly republicans early voted there so far.
Despite all the bullshit in the news the past few days about emails and Trump's illegal tax dodging, nothing has changed. Poll shifts are within the margin of error and the electoral college votes haven't changed at all. Trump is still fucked.
>>710135277
>not even a US citizen.
That explains at least why you dont understand how this stuff works
Is it just me, or is the level of CTR kind of light today? They're probably working on their next FBI investigation talking point.
>>710134457
>Shes still behind in places like Florida and Ohio.
Nate Silver's already projecting Trump victories in both FL and OH.
...oh, and a Hillary victory overall.
>>710135430
You spoke too soon.
see >>710135408
>>710135408
Those are all still just projections anon. Thats not how the electoral college works.
>>710131582
>implying there is just one poll
>what is a margin of error
They're neck and neck
>>710135457
>nate silver
>>710135408
Texas is going blue, and Hillary is ahead in FL by 4 today.
>>710135424
What gives you the idea that I don't understand how this works? I know the mechanics of your election system a lot better than the average American.
>>710135430
I think they're too busy posting the "u mad whiteboi" threads, and other interracial stuff in /gif/
>>710135563
>>nate silver
>>710132817
That clearly says average. He's talking about a specific poll the day of the election. You fucking idiot. You literally uses Wikipedia as a source
>>710135500
The projections are based off polls that show a clear winner, well outside of the margin of error. The toss-ups are still within the margin of error.
You can bank on the polls being wrong if you want. Though highly improbable, it's possible. Most likely, you're in for a rude awakening on election day though.
>>710135530
Trump is most likely ahead based on the fact that plently of democrats either left or refuse to vote for Hillary.
in the last election, Obama only won by 4 million votes, and he was really popular with democrats. But now, 2 million have switched parties this election, and there are around 6 million bernie voters who are either voting for someone like Jill Stein or just refusing to vote, so thats -8 million for Hillary right from the start.
But to her favor, Trump isnt popular with Republicans either, but its a double edged swrod because he at least has die hard supporters that WILL rush to vote for him, while most of hillarys supporters are just luke warm about her and are less willing to even vote.
This might be one of the closest elections in years
>>710135721
>He's talking about a specific poll
Read his post again you mongoloid.
>>710135430
>actually believes CTR meme
Because who wouldn't invest campaign resources and counting the number of pro-Hillary posts by anonymous posters on a board full of underage virgins from across the world in threads that disappear after 15 minutes
>>710134309
Just shut the fuck up you idiot.
>>710131582
>Please share your thoughts.
Armericans are fucking weak-minded, inconsistent and have the attention span of a guppy.
They can elect the Orange horseman and go to hell with him if they want to. The issue I have is that shit affects the rest of the world too. George Bush was a disaster but this would be far beyond that.
>>710135614
>What gives you the idea that I don't understand how this works?
based on the fact that you have no idea what the electoral college is or how it works.
Heres another fun fact, the electoral college doesnt even meet until a few months after the popular election. Anyone bringing up the electoral college at this stage as if its set in stone is an idiot talking out of their ass
see this if you want to learn how it works
>>710134309
>>710135807
>based on the fact that plently of democrats either left or refuse to vote for Hillary
>based on the fact
>fact
Wrong. Most voters have been unfazed by the latest GOP/FBI scandal against Hillary.
1. There is literally no emails in this batch that are TO or FROM Hillary.
2. People are actually starting to feel bad for Hillary and feel this announcement was very political and very wrong, and as a result her numbers have actually GONE UP.
>>710131582
People around the world laugh at us for constantly being stupid enough to elect idiots like Bush and Reagan, this would be a new low that we will never live down. This guy represents every hateful American stereotype, not to mention that he's a fucking moron that would make this country plumet. I fucking hope this doesn't happen.
>>710135956
Kek, I know perfectly well how the electoral collage works. Again, where are you getting the idea that I don't?
>because you don't
isn't an answer.
>>710135430
They were busy fapping to a trap thread, but are back now.
>>710134457
Early votes are generally a right lean due to welfare queens not voting until the last minute.
Doesnt matter who gets the most votes in America, its a facade. Al Gore got more votes than Bush, but it doesnt matter
>>710135932
Dude, did you not hear what Hillary said about Russia? Or that Russia has officially stated they will prepare for war if she is elected?
Shit, I don't like Trump either but I don't want to be fucking drafted or try to survive a nuclear holocaust.
People like you are the truly stupid ones.
>>710136001
No one feels bad for her Lmfao. Where are you getting your bullshit information?
>>710136141
>Russia has officially stated they will prepare for war if she is elected
Link? I didn't hear anything abut that.
>>710136141
That is just Russia trying to influence little pussies like you to vote for Trump.
>>710135932
http://www.mostdamagingwikileaks.com/
>>710136050
>Again, where are you getting the idea that I don't?
You brought up early voting as if its set in stone and brought up florida as if hillary is ahead there. Shes not going to win Florida.
Again, you arent nearly as in the know on this as you believe you are.
>>710136001
Im not even talking about the email thing, Im talking about the bernie sanders supporters that refused to vote for her even before that and the number of democrats that switched parties.
>>710136001
>1. There is literally no emails in this batch that are TO or FROM Hillary.
Derp. I guess people never hired anyone to do their dirty work for them in the history of forever. Smart thinking there, chappo.
>2. People are actually starting to feel bad for Hillary and feel this announcement was very political and very wrong, and as a result her numbers have actually GONE UP.
I don't feel bad for someone who publicly has declared she wants another pointless war against the world's largest stockpiler of nuclear weapons. Or someone who has laughed at her opponents being brutally killed in the middle east.
Trump is bad, but Hillary is death on a global scale. I think they're working together, but Trump won't piss the Russians off nearly as much.
>>710136117
People votes mean nothing, this fucking idiot here >>710134309 actually thinks that this is how the electoral college works. And it's not at all.
>>710135430
>paid shills
Just wondering, if you were really spending money on people trying to change the views of people online by forum posts, why exactly would you send them to 4chan's /b/ or /pol/ board?
Half of the people lurking those boards these days aren't old enough to vote and the rest isn't going to change their views no matter what.
>>710135875
This is about the level of response I expected from some dumb kid whos voting for hillary
>>710136253
The whole "Russia" thing is just more bullshit put out by Hillary to divert the attention off of her emails.
It is simply not true, and one more in a long chain of lies told by her.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/01/us/politics/fbi-russia-election-donald-trump.html?_r=0
>>710136361
>Half of the people lurking those boards these days aren't old enough to vote and the rest isn't going to change their views no matter what.
And a significant number of user isn't even from the US.
I sure hope he wins. Hillary actually legit scares the shit out of me. If she can lie this much and get away with so much how much else could she do with the power of president also why do the people in the background want her elected so bad? Obviously not for something good.
>>710136225
It's all over the entire fucking internet.
http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/09/07/the-kremlin-really-believes-that-hillary-clinton-will-start-a-war-with-russia-donald-trump-vladimir-putin/
She compared Putin to Hitler and threatened war in Syria. The Kremlin is warning its military officials to get their families out of America on any vacations/visits, etc. Russia is positioning troops in the middle east.
Just goes to show Hillary supporters are so fucking stupid they're going to vote for WW3. And be proud of it. Fucking idiots.
>>710136465
>The whole "Russia" thing is just more bullshit put out by Hillary to divert the attention off of her emails.
And who exactly gave all those E-Mails to wikileaks?
>>710136117
>>710136354
dont get mad at me because your a angry and confused idiot who doenst understand how the electoral college works because you were too busy doing bong hits and fapping to furry porn to bother to do even 3 min of google research
>>710136330
Bernie supporters are totally on board with her. She has even adopted some of his ideas to appease them.
>>710136225
Don't bother. It's Russian propaganda.
>>710136225
Google it. I'm not the guy youre replying to but this is a legitimate thing. She wants to enforce a no fly zone over Serbia which is also pissing off russia
>>710136482
THE RUSSIANS
THE RUSSIANS
THE RUSSIANS
THE RUSSIANS
>>710136465
exactly
>>710136506
>If she can lie this much and get away with so much how much else could she do with the power of president also why do the people in the background want her elected so bad?
Are you an idiot? Donald Trump is pretty much lying everytime he opens his mouth and the bullshit he tells gets him his votes. It has been proven time and time again.
>>710136361
The point isn't to change votes. The point is to mold young minds into accepting shit like black men with white women, israeli supremacy, feminism, that sort of thing.
>>710136330
>You brought up early voting as if its set in stone
The only thing that I pointed out is that voting is underway. If Clinton's ahead in the polls in early voting states, and that included Florida up until midway last week, then she's banking on her lead. Obviously works both ways (as in Ohio), but it matters for the final result. Stop putting words in my mouth.
>>710136616
>Serbia
>tfw you're too dumb to even parrot bullshit correctly
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>>710136438
I'm not voting Hillary sir. You just had a stupid as fuck post.
>>710136465
19 agencies both in the US and abroad say that it was Russia you dumb faggot.
Also, focusing on the content of the leaks is completely missing the bigger picture. These emails can't even be confirmed for fuck sake. This is all part of a propaganda dump against the US, not specifically against Hillary.
The US populace is too busy fighting though to even notice this. They have just as much stuff against the other side too, but have not chosen to release it.
The underlying issue is this. The Russians stole this information from US citizens personal email accounts, and gave it to Assange, with the sole intent of making the US as a whole look bad.
This is a Russian psy-op against the US. Trump people need to stop worrying about what's in those leaks and rather what the motives behind them are.
>>710136560
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/25/us/politics/protests-convention-bernie-sanders-philadelphia.html
>>710136667
They're both lying but Hillary's lies cost far more lives than Trump's.
>>710131582
>1 per cent
> Muricans think theres a lot of rape in Europe
> their next president will be an actual rapist who openly condones molesting women
> or a wife who helps her husband ex-president rapist
Africa jr
>>710136141
>Or that Russia has officially stated they will prepare for war if she is elected?
I remember times when that would have guaranteed a candidate 20% more votes, because American wasn't scared of the Russians.
>>710136560
Bernie did a 180 after Hillary allegedly threatened his family.
He used to be completely against her.
>>710132245
That's because they weren't polling. The exact same thing happened on the island when private interest groups steamrolling public opinion into being forced to build a rail system that'll never be completed in any of our lifetimes.
If you said Hilary, that call wouldn't have ended until you either changed your mind or hung up.
Pretty noticable over here since nobody gives a fuck about our votes or polling us.
>>710136770
>You just had a stupid as fuck post.
No I didnt. Youre just a stupid person who got angry at me for explaining something to you for no reason.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6s7jB6-GoU
>>710136772
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2jqYucd58o
>>710135932
>AMERICANS WHO VOTE FOR TRUMP ARE STUPID
>Hillary wins, your whole country bombed off the face of the earth marked acceptable losses in the Russian/US war
kek
>>710136850
Nobody wants to provoke nuclear war. Except Hillary and her stooges apparently.
I want to be clear. I really despise Trump and I believe he's a moron and a liar. But holy shit, if you vote for ww3, you deserve everything that goes your way. I just wish you retards wouldn't take me down with you.
>>710136667
Do some research. Trump does lie and that's to be expected when someone is running for president. I can understand that. But Hillary has been a deceiving corrupt liar ever since before her husband even got into office. She is even more evil the Trump. Because at least Trump always seems to be who is his. Hillary however is two faced and a compulsive liar who has broke the law to make her way up to the top.
>>710136796
>Hillary's lies cost far more lives than Trump's.
What? George Bush's lies cost lives. Hillary Clinton so far started any wars with made up bullshit.
>>710136555
I'm not mad at you, I'm upset at your ignorance Because you legitimately think that's how the college works. You're daft
>>710136947
Several studies have all concluded that Trump voters are mostly uneducated or under-educated white males with IQs that are below 80.
>>710136772
>19 agencies both in the US and abroad say that it was Russia you dumb faggot.
no they didnt
>>710136915
Carville is an idiot. The KGB hasnt even existed since the fall of the Soviet Union. The amount of fear mongering and war mongering by the democrats is amazing
>>710136997
>Do some research.
No, I am not going to browse InfoWars, breitbart, fox news or /pol/.
I'm amazed that people actually think it will be the end of US if T gets in office. He could not be anymore decisive as Obama. It just doesn't suit the people that have the most voice, liberals. And they say Trump is all doom and gloom. Its like cows trained to a bucket, if u are on the govt title than they got u.
>>710136772
I really wouldn't trust the honesty of 19 US agencies any more than I would trust the honesty of a serial car jacking store robbing black as fuck nigger.
>>710136743
Lmao sorry my bad practically just woke up. Syria**
>>710133073
Thanks for that. I've always felt it was a scam so I've never wasted time in my life to vote
>>710136983
Trump is the guy who says he´s okay with using nukes tho
>>710137048
no, youre a typical dumb person who gets angry at things you dont understand. What do you think the college is? The Illuminati picking their puppet?
Dont get angry at people because you failed 2nd grade social studies class.
>>710132466
you respect rational thought from a trump supporter?
>>710136947
Do you not realze what you're saying is trump won't do shit about russia's land grabs? It's been russia's deal since the 1800s so whomever is president is moot.
>>710136772
Not the guy you were replying to when you made the post idiot. Educate yourself because the representatives don't have to vote who the state votes for. You're an idiot.
>>710137130
Devisive not decisive.
Why exactly does that freak always talk of himself in the 3rd-person?
>>710137120
Not the point I am trying to make. But if you are going to vote at least get multiple opinions so you can fully understand what you are talking about. Then create you own opinion instead of being a tool.
>>710136772
>19 agencies
Oh like the DOJ and DHS who do and "say" what Obama tells them to do?
Sure, they have total credibility now, especially after the last wikileaks dump showing that the US atty general told the FBI *not* to investigate the Clinton Foundation because that's what Obama wanted.
Seems legit....
>>710137021
Dude what the fucking fuck are you talking about? Where the fuck did George Bush come into this?
Stupid ideological piece of shit. Are you that much of a tool that you blindly ascribe to any political party in this day and age? Fuck off retard.
I'm voting against ww3, thank you.
>>710137130
I just want the Republican party as it is to die so a new conservative party free of religious bullshit can arise (a true centrist party). They make it way too hard to vote for them when they deny things like evolution.
>>710137207
>>710137239
Posted it to a wrong reply. Learn how the college works and come back plz. State representatives don't have to vote with their state. Keep crying because you're digging a hole and looking more daft by the post.
>>710137217
>russias land grabs
as opposed to Americas?
>>710137120
Then look into the speeches Hillary has made provoking war with Russia.
>Russia’s leaders were understandably furious when, not only was former Libyan President Muammar al-Qaddafi ousted, but a cellphone recording of his last moments showed U.S.-backed rebels sodomizing him with a bayonet. They were even more enraged by Clinton’s videotaped response to the same news: “We came, we saw, he died,” the secretary of state quipped before bursting into laughter, cementing her reputation in Moscow as a duplicitous warmonger.
http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/09/07/the-kremlin-really-believes-that-hillary-clinton-will-start-a-war-with-russia-donald-trump-vladimir-putin/
>>710137307
You drop one of these in a room with 100 women, who rapes the most people?
1. A muslim
2. A Nigger
3. A US college athlete
4. A US presidental candidate
>>710137203
There is not one button and one finger to push it. Its just liberal b.s. to scare the ignorant.
>>710136361
According to paid government russian... "trolls" for a lack of a better/apt term: the aim for the simple-minded, the easily turned.
>>710137356
>dicky leaks
>>710137386
sure thing. the fact that you are only saying "nuh uh!" instead of offering an actual response or trying to explain how you think it works only proves my point further. You think its some Illuminati tier shit
>>710137497
Hmmm, in '08 Obama was 3 of those....
>>710137359
This guy gets it.
One of the first things Donald Trump will do is eliminate the two term limit on presidency. Trust me on it. And the he'll rule till he dies. After the he'll appoint one of his sons Uday or Cussay the next president.
The times of America being the oldest democracy in the world are coming to an end.
>>710137465
Hence why I'm voting Clinton, she isn't afraid of Putin
>>710137587
No. No one has said anything about conspiracies or illuminati until you start assuming the others are. You're completely oblivious and you just keep smashing your keyboard thinking you're being smart and winning. Look at your posts. You're an idiot.
>>710137702
>hes still not even attempting to explain what he thinks it is
Im done with you. Go back to your trap threads you idiot
>>710137506
> HILLARY WILL CREATE NUCLEAR WAR
> Trump is actually the one saying he is okay with nuking
> YEAH WELL PRESIDENTS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH NUCLEAR WAR
Trumplets......
>>710137677
>she isn't afraid of Putin
No but she's damn reckless toward him. As long as she can get paid, that's all that really matters to her.
>>710137621
He was a college athlete?
>>710137657
That requires a constitutional amendment with 3/4th of the states agreeing
>>710137378
That should be personal not legislated.
>>710137677
This. I cant wait to get drafted and fight in WW3 over reason I dont even understand
>>710137587
When a state votes, it's telling their representatives who they want. The representatives choose who their going to vote for based off their own judgement, people's votes mean nothing when it comes to who the representative will vote for. Sorry you're this uneducated
>>710137203
Dude... Do you even know anything about your own candidate...?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDCZPnYc2Qw
Here she is threatening Russia's allies with nukes in such a polite way.
Do you even do research on your own candidate?
They both basically said the same thing though, but Hillary wants to use nukes for US's "allies". Trump would only respond against a direct attack against the US.
>>710137677
That's actually autistic. You should be afraid of Putin. If you are voting for Hillary I assume you want WW3?
>>710137781
Someone is mad they know they're wrong. So sad):
>>710137657
Oldest democracy in the world? I think ancient Greece might argue this...
>>710137785
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykk8ibRhx-g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTBdFccqDns
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlz3-OzcExI
Fuck you you war mongering faggot. Too much of a pussy to even fight in these wars to
>>710137677
You're actually saying you want ww3?
How old are you? Do you want to be drafted?
>>710137942
Or I mean the fact that USA isn't a democracy and rather a democratic Republic....
>>710137871
Trump only came out to say those things for attention and those remarks kept eyes on him for his campaign he has since stepped back from those statements while Hillary has kept driving them home making me more worried about what she would do with that power.
>>710137677
Please be an underage faggot that can't even vote. Holy fuck, we are closer to ww3 than ever before. This is actually kind of scary.
>>710137781
I'm not even the guy youre replying to you fuckwit. Good job.
Republicans = bad
Democrats = good
Republicans = low IQ, and dumb
Democrats = high IQ, and intelligent
Gee, such a hard choice before us, once again...
>>710137999
I'm 33 inverted devil trips. We have no use for the draft now because enough dumb faggots actually volunteer for the military.
>>710137587
>>710137587
Do you gotta go research so you can try to prove me wrong?): you lost faggot. You literally know nothing of the electoral college and you're parroting shit you heard a teacher say in 8th grade.
>>710137881
Should be afraid of the leader of a cucked nation. Sure...
>>710138080
>we are closer to ww3 than ever before
You think that a guy who gets his panties in a twist every time anyone gives him even the tiniest bit of push back is going to prevent that? Seriously, the guy stays up till 3AM to rant on twitter about an ex miss universe. What the fuck do you think he's going to do on the geopolitical theater? Play nice and agreeable?
>>710138223
There's been talk of a draft, because they were considering making women eligible for it. I'll try to find a credible source
>>710137145
>I really wouldn't trust the honesty of 19 US agencies
Disagree, and I'll tell you why anon.
I do contracting work for a lot of municipal utilities. Gas, water, electricity, transit a few times, even worked on upper Manhattan's "WiMax" network (it's a god-awful fucking mess FYI) and by working with this national infrastructure, you inevitably become exposed to several aspects of the federal government.
Chief among these departments is DHS, EPA and DoD. Since this is strategic homeland assets, DHS butts its' head in the most. But on a couple of unauthorized accesses we've had the FBI and NSA involved as well. So I have some direct experience with many facets of the American federal government.
Let me say they're all fucking annoying. Some actually want to do good, help things but bureaucratic protocol and procedure always gets in the fucking way and makes things take 3x as long as it should. Then you've got the guys that couldn't give a shit less (FBI is most guilty of this in my experience) because their only reason for being present was your incident file fell on their desk.
NONE of these agencies ever agree on anything. Well, except that they all want a larger budget next fiscal year and that muslims are the worst people on the planet. Aside from those two items, NONE of them agree on anything. I can't give specifics due to homeland security compliance but I've been personally privy to three incidents where the DHS and FBI recommended almost polar-opposite solutions to an outstanding issue, usually security-related. These guys couldn't agree on whether the sky was blue or purple, but they will if you put them infront of a camera.
The fact that just about every single one of these agencies agreed to go after Hillary Clinton says ALOT, but you need to understand how they function to recognize the significance of it.
>>710137850
And right now Clinton is a legitimate centrist. The right is losing actual logical people in the center because of their praising of the infant baby jesus.
>>710138316
What the fuck are you talking about?
Russia is at DEFCON 3 right now. Because of Hillary's comments about war.
>>710137657
Now that's complete b.s.. if ubama didn't do it nobody will.
>>710138280
>research
>to prove how the electoral college works
youre a really stupid person who thinks hes smart anon.
>>710138010
Great Britain had a parliament before you fuckers even gained independence
Oh yeah? Per cent? Did the author write that article with Google voice to text? Seems real credible
>>710138335
Signing up for the draft, yes, but the draft hasn't been used since Vietnam.
>>710138405
And Trump has literally argued that the US should commit war crimes. What's your point?
>>710138468
Exactly lmao. My point being though was America isn't the oldest democracy, nor is it even one.
>>710136772
>19 agencies both in the US and abroad say that it was Russia you dumb faggot.
except that they didnt you lying piece of shit faggot
>>710138467
Not really. I'm a person of mediocre intelligence. You're just too ignorant to accept the fact you're wrong. It's literally a Google away. Representives don't have to vote with their state.
>>710138405
1. Russia doesn't have a DEFCON system you pleb.
2. The US is at DEFCON 3 due to Trump.
>>710138080
We have been close to WW3 since like 1962
>>710138214
and yet, regardless of the purported "intelligence" of our elected leaders, the performance of the economy as measured by the purchasing power of our currency seems to be on a pretty steady trajectory towards the toilet.
>>710138641
Has nothing to do with Trump. You're an idiot.
BTW we're actually at defcon Blue (4) not 3
>>710131582
>per cent
>>710135819
>>710137998
> not dumb enough to fight in these wars
"Investigating Donald Trump, F.B.I. Sees No Clear Link to Russia" -New York Times
>>710138877
per cent is technically correct as it is per 100, not OP here.
>>710138538
Yeah I think you guys have your own definition of democracy, so in a sense I guess you're right.
>>710138530
Hillary has ACTUALLY committed war crimes. A lot.
>>710138223
Yeah, volunteering might seem like a dumb idea at times but ask the next "faggot" from combat. They May surprise you.
>>710138214
Your idiotic post just reinforced this
http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/22/science-say-gop-voters-better-informed-open-minded/
>>710138665
Much closer now. Russia said we are closer now if this shit in Syria goes down than we were in the Cuban Missile Crisis.
Don't you idiots have any idea what's going on? Completely insulated clueless people. Wow.
>>710139060
Except she hasn't. At all. Do you know what a war crime is?
>>710139169
Meanwhile, Putin has invaded several European countries. And you think we should stay friend? The aggressor in this scenario is Putin. You're delusional if you think otherwise.
>>710139072
If you volunteered to go to the desert after 9/11 you are a complete dumb fuck. You actually contributed to the creation of ISIS, not Hilldog as Trumpfags would make you believe. Mission Accomplished
>>710132804
That's a load of bs. This is a poll that had him 12 points behind a week ago
>>710139178
>Except she hasn't.
Wow. These people are truly no hope. I hope there aren't enough of your kind voting. Man, we might actually start ww3 soon. I have to get ready to delay being drafted anyway I can. Maybe I'll go to school soon. Or declare a disability.
> Do you know what a war crime is?
Ordering people killed illegally that makes Russia prepare for war?
>>710138998
>investigating complex international interactions takes no time at all
>reading a few emails, OMG CAN'T BE DONE BEFORE ELECTION
At least the FBI isn't trying to hide their bias anymore.
>>710138998
>implying that the FBI isn't taking orders from the GOP and Russia
>>710139339
o rly.
Proof?
Oh there isn't any? Shocking.
>>710139352
>Maybe I'll go to school soon.
That just about sums up the average Trump supporter.
>>710138468
Technically, your head of state is the queen, did you vote for her? What if she doesn't call parliament?
>>710139021
theyre both correct. percent is the US way, per cent is the british way
>>710137677
I hope you die. There is supposed to be peace between global powers. If theres a chance to ally with russia without becoming russia, we should take it.
>>710137998
do you talk shit about draft dodgers? Cos Trump is a draft dodger
>>710138641
No, but hey have been preparing for a nuclear war more and more
>>710131582
you can literally find 6 different polls every day that says one candidate is ahead, just shut the fuck up
>>710139310
The fuck are you talking about? I've never heard of that. Ukraine isn't Europe if that's what you're thinking.
>>710139559
Bullshit. If that were true the media would be all over it. Maybe you should call CNN and tell them that you have inside info....
>>710139559
Idk about anyone else over here but id he a draft dodger. I'm not fighting some bullshit war for a bullshit country. I don't understand the stigma behind "draft dodging" because the fact that people actually believe you should "grow a pair" and be drafted (this is speaking about older times considering we don't have a draft just sign up for it, by law I might add.)
>>710139539
yeah, i was just saying its an acceptable alternative
>>710139445
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/clinton-trump-tied-democratic-enthusiasm-dips/story?id=43199459
>>710138335
>>710139554
Russia is only interested in puppets. This isn't a two way street. Clinton will not start a war with Russia, but she won't give into them.
>>710139310
Hillary's state dept was involved in the Ukraine coup that overthrew a pro Russian elected government and installed one that was going to deny the Russians their naval base in the Crimea. You think America wouldn't get PO'd if Russians did something like that on our border?
>>710139683
Of course hes a draft dodger its common knowledge. As is all high class snobs
>>710139881
Stupid shitstain low information voter.
She has threatend to shoot down Russian planes in Syria you fucking tool. That will start a war.
If this were any other election I wouldn't care, but I don't want to be drafted or see anyone my family drafted. Fuck this country seriously.
>>710139632
>Ukraine isn't Europe
Jesus Christ. Yes it is you fucking Mongoloid. It just isn't in the EU. Same with Georgia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Europe
>>710134309
They made a helpful educational video some years back.
https://youtu.be/vUc4GkMN1qs?t=57s
>>710139559
>>710139683
He used medical exemption to get out of the draft. Over about 15million men did this in Vietnam. He dodged the draft legally, not illegally.
>>710139925
>was involved in the Ukraine coup
[citation needed]
>>710139972
Eastern Europe is Russia's jurisdiction. How the fuck is that considered invading Europe? Because the EU tried to illegally annex it against popular vote? And then Russia stepped in to defend what was theirs?
Fuck you people are stupid.
>>710139881
Lmfao I love these idiots who think Russia is some evil country. Grow the fuck up and look what's happening around you.
>>710139990
wrong he dodged the draft which is illegal. trump's a draft dodging retard who the military doesn't respect.
>>710138490
She's merely symbolic, she has no true power. If she ever got involved in politcs the country would go bat shit and overthrow her.
>>710140059
>Russia's jurisdiction
Except it's Eastern Europe's jurisdiction.
>Fuck you people are stupid.
The irony is almost unbearable.
Meanwhile CNN isn't even talking about the FBI investigating Clinton. Nope.... nothing to see here....
>>710139632
Ukraine IS Europe but Russia insists it didn't invade it's troops were already there under a treaty.
I'm wondering where these other countries this guy thinks they invaded are though.
>>710136094
Funny, considering the vast majority of welfare recipients are FUCKING. CONSERVATIVES.
>>710140105
No it's not. Draft dodging isn't even a legal term you Fucking idiot. He used a loophole to get out of the draft, yes. Surely we can agree on that, but how he did it was entirely legal. You're misinformed.
>>710135591
Uhhh... Trump is up 13 in TX as of today. TX going blue is a pipe dream until 2028 or so.
And he's up in FL. I don't know what fucking polls you're looking at, Hillbot.
>>710139990
Bill Clinton dodged the draft
>>710140280
What does this have to do with anything?
>>710140179
>I'm wondering where these other countries this guy thinks they invaded are though.
Georgia.
>>710140199
Sorry, meant the poor minorities. Poor country white folk have no voting patterns in terms of early or late.
>>710140280
>>710140280
so did 15million other men.
>>710140280
Bill isn't running for office faggot.
>>710140280
kek, but he didn't inhale....
>>710135932
MuriKKKa deserves its own Brexit.
>>710140154
And yet everyone in Ukraine voted to stay with Russia.
What the EU tried to do was illegal and against democracy. So fuck you and fuck them.
>>710132346
Don't they only poll landlines?
>>710139966
IF her no-fly zone over Syria even gets approved, which would take a lot of diplomatic negotiations and potentially a year to even enact. It's NOT something she's going to declare on her first day in office, if at all. Shitstain low informed voter falling for fearmongering bullshit. You're EXACTLY the reason demagogues get elected. Congrats.
>>710140280
as i said, the people in charge in america aka the rich dont have to go and die in a war like the idiot plebeians
>>710136001
You shouldn't be repeating Huma's talking points verbatim. It gives away your bias.
>>710140490
Fuck off, I'm delaying the draft as long as I can to buy enough time to escape this country full of retards like you.
Enjoy your WW3.
>>710136023
>idiots like Bush and Reagan
Don't forget Gerald Ford!
>>710140486
Pretty sure. Don't own a landline and never been called.
>>710140038
the leaked emails of Clinton's assistant neocon Victoria Nuland reviewing who should be given posts in the new government. Also her standing in the middle of the crowds supporting them vocally and to interviewers.
>>710136141
Fucking coward.
>"Vote for my dipshit of a candidate cause I'm scared of Russia!"
This is murica faggot, we don't do shit because Russia is saber rattling like they've always done you gigantic fucking pussy.
>>710140454
>everyone in Ukraine
Jesus, the Ukrain voted overwhelmingly pro European in both post revolution governmental elections. After that, no votes were cast besides in Crimea, and that was post invasion and post deportation of the pro European Tartars, like Stalin did when he invaded Crimea.
>>710140490
Putin already has a no-fly zone over Syria. Read the fucking news already...
>>710139966
Both sides have shot down commercial planes, no wars started. Look up Korea 007, Iran Air 655, Malaysia 17
>>710140694
that makes literally no sense
>>710140816
I don't think you understand USA no fly zone isn't the same as Russian no fly zone.
>>710133295
True that
>>710140749
Have fun being deployed to 110 degree deserts with a sausage party of sexually frustrated guys while I remain here and bang the surplus women with their men overseas.
You sure are one real manly man! Sure showed me.
>>710140749
Send your kids to be sacrificed for the politicians, not mine.
>>710132338
1% is the diff between going home with a warning and going to jail for drunk driving, 1% is the amount of people that control 90% of the wealth, 1% of a billion dollars (which isn't even close to the trillions murica in debt) is 10 million $.
Please elaborate on how 1% doesn't mean anything.
>>710140173
Because the FBI story is nothing but political grand-standing prompted by Trump and the GOP. Literally nothing to do with Hillary directly other than the wife of the guy who actually is under investigation was working for her.
You faggots are trying hard to make this a big deal when it is not. Sounds like Benghazi all over again doesn't it?
>>710140598
>fuck off - I know I'm a retarded sheep falling for fearmongering bullshit because I have no capability to think for myself
Kk
>>710140324
LOL the fucking Caucuses. BTW South Ossetiana didn't like and wanted to break away from Georgia. BTW Georgia had been full of western and allied special operations and intelligence folks to push them against Russia.
>>710140412
This election feels similar to Brexit (from a British POV). Trump will be seen as a protest vote against the political establishment and will win against the odds
>>710141035
This.
Trumptards are reaching.
>>710136947
>"I'm scared of Russia, sooooo much!"
You are an enormous faggot. Russia is not going to start a war with us, that would be fucking retarded. Like you are.
>>710140359
He was president in spite of it you fucking simpleton.
>>710141120
Most people are smart enough to realize a billionaire isn't "anti-establishment." Protest votes will go to third-party candidates by and large.
>>710141276
I don't think you realize there are legal ways to get out of the draft, also I don't think you understand allowing yourself to be drafted is just absolutely idiotic. There's nothing honorable about it.
>>710137307
He only said.
Bill Clinton actually raped girl/women.
There is a difference between saying something and doing it.
>>710141056
You call it fear mongering when Russia is the one officially stating it?
The statements of probable war are coming directly from Russia.
>>710141089
None of what you just said invalidates the fact that Russia invaded several European countries.
>>710140490
That's why most of the neocons want her and either say "Never Trump" like Willia Kristol, so as to have plausible deniability about supporting Hillary or openly support Hillary like Robert Kagan
>>710141351
Most people aren't that smart dude. You overestimate human intelligence.
>>710141500
Trump raped several women including a child
>>710131582
>1 per cent
>>710137359
"Hurr-durr Russia, therefore, Trump!"
You want Putin's bitch leading us? You sure are a limp wristed cowardly faggot aren't you?
>>710141644
Hillary raped several goats and a few cats. Also a tree one time.
>>710136547
>>710141644
Some sources for that? Also Hillary threatned the same women Bill raped. Atleast according to the victims.
>>710137824
>reckless
Yeah, you like it better when Trump kisses his nuts don't you, you Russia cucked little pussy boi?
>>710141708
See:
>>710140946
I don't think there's much reason to care. I'll find a way to dodge the draft. More women for me.
Have fun with all those hot sweaty guys out there. You are a real manly man!
>>710141351
But he's not a career politician, everyone is pissed off at corrupt government resting on their laurels.
If I was American I'd vote for a third party too. Won't make the outcome any different, but at least you can't take the blame for whichever cockwomble wins..
>>710141708
Like I said, sacrifice your children for her, not mine. You can fuck off seriously you god damn retard. Real life is not call of duty.
>>710141824
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lisa-bloom/why-the-new-child-rape-ca_b_10619944.html
Trump threatened to kill the victims too, its how these people work
>>710137881
No faggot. YOU should be afraid of Putin. Because you are an enormous pussy.
>>710138069
>Openly admits he supports a guy who talks about nukes "just for attention" in his opinion.
You're a special kind of idiot aren't you?
Vote for Trump or hillary
http://www.strawpoll.me/11309360/
>>710142057
>Huffington post
>credible source
>pick one
>>710140816
funny those Turkish, coalition and Israeli jets bomb there still
>>710138468
And the mother country had the Star Chamber before MuriKKKa got FISA. Thanks for that.
>>710140848
Victoria Nuland has been shown to have been involved. She is a Clinton flunky derp derp
>>710141035
>FBI story is nothing
Not any more it isn't. Podesta's good friend is in charge of the investigation had assured him that this will all go away very quickly.
https://heatst.com/politics/assistant-attorney-general-involved-in-new-clinton-email-investigation-is-podesta-friend/
When will people learn that you can't take down the Clintons.
>>710142567
>has been shown to have been involved
[citation needed]
>>710139169
"Putin said something! I'm such a fucking coward it actually has me worried!"
Faggot.
>>710141089
Uhhh no. Several is more than two. Georgia at best can marginally be called European. Russian troops were ALREADY in Ukraine by treaty. That's not how invasion works.
>>710140062
Afterbirth of the Cold War. MuriKKKans were raised on a daily ration of fear-mongering against the USSR from WWII to the fall of the Berlin Wall. The country is still chock-full of personal bomb shelters. Ruskies = Evil Empire even to this day.
>>710142292
there are sources everywhere you mongrel
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/10/24/documenting-trumps-abuse-of-women
where are the credible sources for Bills rape? Trump is a complete psychopath as most rich people are, they rape children on the regular, they are above the law
>>710142026
>But he's not a career politician
He just has a 30-year history of screwing people over in business. People realize this isn't any better than a career politician.
I would suck the shit off of Trumps hemorrhoids. Thank you for listening.
>>710141035
Yeah right, because Trump and the GOP control the executive branch. Are you even an American or just an uneducated imbecile?
>>710140280
And Dubya. The draft is for people too poor to rig a 4-F deferment or move to Canada.
>>710141563
Uhhh no. Several is more than two. Georgia at best can marginally be called European. Russian troops were ALREADY in Ukraine by treaty. That's not how invasion works.