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>What's your main instrument?
>Do you play anything else?
>How long have you been playing?
>What genre are you most proficient in?
>Why are bassists so fucking thick-skulled?
Faggot basist in my band writes shit he has no ability to play, can't keep a beat and thinks he's on time just because he hit the next section somewhat on time.
Also, he can't tune for shit, and bought himself a guitar with a floyd, probably because I have one, but has no patience to tune the guitar and plays it loud in our shared apartment tuned to shit with the bridge at a 10-20+ degree angle. He's impenetrable to critique in any manner.
>>709877401
>Guitar
>vocals, but that's hardly an instrument
>10 years this christmas
>death metal and grind, play some blues, doom, jazz, funk and classic flamenco although I'm frankly shit at it all
>sense of grandeur because of their importance?
Is that uncle June ?
>>709877589
Don't even know who Uncle June is, but I doubt it.
This is some old hispanic dude if I remember correctly, creating or playing 8-stringed guitars before the fathers of djent-fags were even concieved.
A real bassist is a wonderful thing.
You have a brotarist.
In it for the chicks bro.
Usually people assume bass is easier so they pick it.
>>709877819
Also, my main is bass. And yes, 99% of people that pick up a bass should put it down and sit in the corner.
Anyone play lap slide guitar here? Love them, but it would be hell to learn one.
>>709877819
I know, I've got great bassists in my family, know plenty of good bassists too, but I only personally know one musician playing what I play, and unfortunately this brotarist is him. I doubt anyone plays our shit for chicks though, he's just immensly self-entitled and prides himself in being 'better' than everyone else. Even telling this faggot to redo some dishes he left food scraps on means a passive aggressive hatestare and an empty "what?" without wanting to hear the answer.
Unfortunately I can't kick him out of the band, we're both founding members. This was okay when I taught him to play bass and he was a newbie, it's not okay 7 years later.
>>709878100
Unfortunately OP doesn't, but would love to learn.
>>709877899
Well I must be the 1% because I am a bassist and all I give a fuck about is timing and holding the team up.
Played bass in high school.
Joined the Marines and didn't touch it for about 10 years
Picked it back up for therapy reason and have been locking the groove for a solid 3 years. Ultimately I'd like to be able to drop in the fold of any genre on the planet.
My favorite genre to play is Blues and reggae.
>>709877899
>99%
99 dubs of truth
>>709878282
Yeah, but they're expensive, plus if you want to be taught by someone who plays, I'd assume the price would be insane.
>>709878315
Calling yourself the 1% is often a bad sign, but as long as you practice you're better than most bassists. Keep doing what you do, goals, and knowing how to reach them, is what separates the bassists from the too-bad-to-be-guitarists
>>709878468
Definitely. As a depressed and failing college student I can't afford a lap steel in at least a good few years.
>>709877401
>Guitar
>Drums and bass
>5 years
>Heavy rock i guess
>>709878692
Do you write anything yourself?
>>709878692
If you would have added 7 years to that I'd almost think you're one of my best friends. Mastering both drums, bass and guitar is a pretty solid task.
>>709878628
Sad times, indeed. Hope you pass, anon.
>>709877401
>>709877401
>Currently baritone acoustic guitar
>drums a bit but not good
>17 years
>Acoustic Fingerstyle (Andy Mckee, Antoine Dufour, Michael Hedges)
>Any good confident musician is thick skulled regardless of instrument
>>709878760
Yeah, been recording and putting songs together for about year now use Ableton Live
>>709878840
Yeah definitely is but I have hardly mastered any of them unfortunately. Especially drums, still fairly new to that and still use drums tracks in most my songs.
>>709878893
Great! Recording yourself is one of the best ways to improve. It takes a lot of practice and time to reach respectable timing, recording yourself makes it a lot easier to hate yourself, lol.
>>709878987
But you're on your way! Mastering any instrument takes many, MANY years. I didn't expect you to have reached 30+ years of playing any instrument.
>>709877401
>Guitar
>Drums, bass guitar, double bass, cello, alt sax, piano
>10 years
>Jazz and death metal.
>Because they learn the songs via tabs but they don't understand what they're playing most of the time, they have no idea why some chords work better after a certain chord. tl;dr they know shit about harmony.
>>709878849
i came here to shill my self like a real musician
https://soundcloud.com/trysn/clcc
check my shit out, dont sleep on me homies its not worth it
>>709878849
Working on it, hopefully they'll establish that it's all a thyroid problem and I can get my ability to concentrate back. I'm prioritizing a Mesa Triple Rectifier though, if I ever can afford one.
>>709879041
Yeah very true. Its also insanely fun and rewarding. A great past time.
>>709879097
True, taking me even longer I think, since I hate learning songs and just write my own stuff.
Piano
Alto saxophone
Piano since im 5 years old and saxophone since im 10
Jazz
Dont really know but for me bassists have played pretty good in bands
>>709879128
>no understanding
This is definitely true, and partially my fault. I shouldn't have taught him how to play bass without putting significance in studying theory.
As a fellow death metal musician, have you got anything to share?
>Clarinet
>6 years
>classically trained
Mfw I get to play with professionals
>>709879329
That's because you're a jazz musician, I have nothing but the utmost respect for you guys. Unfortunately you rarely get the credit you deserve for it.
>>709878541
I meant in response to the guy mentioning of
>99% of bassists are blank
I am always willing to learn and have no inflated sense of anything. I'm a student and will be even when I'm 90. I just want to get good at making noise and holding it down.
>>709879220
>copy pastes samples
>calls himself a musician
>>709877401
>Piano
>Accordion, Guitar, Vocal (Including Throatsinging), Drums
>Piano for 10 years
>Ragtime and popularmusic from 1890-1930 America
>Because playing one note at a time is easy so a lot of people learn to play that, and don't further their technique and musical understanding.. that's why we have so many shitty bassplayers
>>709879565
Yeah, I didn't mean to pound down on you. My remark regarding considering oneself the 1%, the ones not guilty of the shitty muscianship, was more generally speaking.
>>709879568
kek
>>709879568
Sampling is one of the backbones of modern music if you think otherwise you are literally retarded.
>>709879634
Throat singing is badass, and as a death metal/goregrind vocalist it actually helped me understand a handful of other vocal techniques. I'm not very accurate when it comes to polyphonic singing, but applying it to false chord vocals typical of death metal, you can really get some cool effects going. "Gutturals" are basically false-chord throat singing.
Any bassists willing to drop some good knowledge on bass player things to do to harness the low-end effectively? Things to keep in mind and general groove tips appreciated
>>709879886
get more groove you jive ass motherfucker
>>709879773
Creating music is not the same as being a musician. You're a producer, at best. We're all well aware that sampling is the main element of modern pop music, but it's also one of the main reasons it's completely unoriginal, talentless, boring and uninspiring.
>>709877401
>piano pain instrument
>must have been what, 12 years now?
>bass in band
>fuck you I'm actually good
>guitar, drums, clarinet, cello
>most proficient in classical, thats with piano
>metal (prog, post mainly), post-rock, (post) hardcore, emo, math rock, art rock
>yes I'm a flaming fucking faggot
>>709879330
As a fellow death metal musician I'd recommend you to listen to a lot of oriental music /b/ro. I really get a kick out of it when I play arabian/turkish melodies with a blast beat behind. Also the scales that jazz musicians use over a dominant 7th chord are really nice like the symmetric, the altered, the lydian dominant and also the hybrid scales you can make up on your own.
You can check these guys out, not death metal but really cool music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuzTD4aGXvc
Bass guitar, piano, harmonica, organ
>>709879886
Definitely learn how to mute properly. Both complete muting and palm-muting if applicable. Make sure you actually practice note length, not just hitting notes at the right time. Play some funk.
>>709877401
Main: bass
I also play guitar
Bassists are thick skulled because basses are thick and chances are we've been hit with them (@kristnoveselic) I'm most proficient in rock but I want to start easing into bluesish stuff on guitar.
>>709880052
Yes, good oriental music is amazing, and are a huge inspiration. Scales and chords not typically found in western music is often considered sour or weird to the listeners, and this is what I thrive in.
>>709877401
>What's your main instrument?
bass
>Do you play anything else?
guitar, banjo, flute, drums, mandolin
>How long have you been playing?
12 years
>What genre are you most proficient in?
jazz, classical,
>Why are bassists so fucking thick-skulled?
Why don't guitarists ever know what key they're playing in?
>>709879977
>pop music
except that sampling is used in far more than just pop music.
>creating music is not the same as being a musician
>unoriginal
except for creating completely original works of art that are indistinguishable from another
>talentless
except for using complicated soft/hardware with great degrees of clinicality
>boring
>calling music boring
toplol tbh
>uninspiring
>what is subjectivity
you are a mongoloid
you are clearly aware of nothing but your precognitions
>>709880390
Because guitarists are generally narcissistic assholes. You're missing the point if you took any offence, you clearly know something about music if you've took the time to learn those instruments, and are not one of the massive sea of absolute shit bassists.
>>709877401
>my throat
>makes all boys sing
>>709877401
>tfw lurked /mu/ when I first came to 4chan
>thought it would be full of musicians
>ended up being a bunch of kids who think they have taste in music because they pretend to like shitty albums wit interesting stories behind them and that's why they got a 10/10 on Pitchfork
Bass guitar, acoustic guitar (but not too proficient), alto saxophone (most proficient), piano (main instrument as of now). Played sax for 4 years but stopped two years ago, I still have the instrument I just never take it out. I've been playing piano for 6 years. Bass guitar on and off for 5 years and acoustic for like 2 years.
Musicians are fucking weird by the way
>>709877401
What's your main instrument?
>Euphonium (Tenor Tuba)
Do you play anything else?
>Tuba, Trombone, Trumpet, French Horn, Tenor Sax, Piano, Harmonica.
How long have you been playing?
>4 years.
What genre(s) are you most proficient in?
>Classical, Swing
Why are bassists so fucking thick-skulled?
>What can you expect when you give an important job to an inferior instrument?
>>709877401
>skin flute
>hamflower
>since a teenager
>rhythm and blues
>The simplicity of many basslines usually doesn't endear the instrument to those with technical ability or interest in more complex melody; in some ways, it acts more as a rhythm/percussive instrument than stringed. In essence, it's dull and often attracts dullards.
>Guitar
>Some percussion
>Since I was 8, so about 11-12 years
>Blues/Alt Rock
>I have no idea, but I know that's it true
>>709880428
pop music in this case meaning the main portion of what ever is new and popular, not the results of the beatles.
>any electronic music
>rock and subgenres (although generally lacking sampling)
>rap
>pop
The subjectivity was never presented as to be anything but subjective. There's no musicianship in cutting things together, it's producing. Learning software is not being a musician.
>>709880848
If you don't PLAY the instrument, you're not a musician.
>>709880848
You are literally not worth my time, feel free to continue to be wrong and to live in your bubble of idiocy.
>>709880777
>bass is simple
Yes, if this only applied to rock/pop bassists, sure. Death metal bass is harder than death metal guitar, funk bass is generally not very easy (unless shit tier..) and jazz is insane.
This is coming from a guitarist.
>>709881019
Literally the meaning of the word is one who practices music.
>>709881019
>>709880848
Because it takes effort and and creativity to create your own original sound. Listening to someone else's creation and thinking "this would sound good if it were done differently like this.." still isn't creating your own sound, it's working off of other musicians hard work and actual talent and creativity.
>>709881049
>literally
>>709881224
Playing is practicing
>>709881019
>>709881204
Oh, sure. But for people with actual aptitude and ability, you usually have qualifiers to bassist - e.g. 'jazz bassist' or whatever - that indicate that they're not a tool. Generic bassist? Meh; I ain't going to assume they're an Entwistle unless there's clear evidence showing otherwise.
>>709881243
>>709880848
noun
1.
a person who makes music a profession, especially as a performer of music.
2.
any person, whether professional or not, skilled in music.
high degree of retardation
mfw
>>709881224
Yes. And the musician is the computer. Cutting sounds and pasting them is not creating music, it's mashing sounds.
>>709881019
Idk, when I was younger I used to hate on electronic music and rap and everything. But if you are creative enough to make something that people enjoy listening to, more power to you. It will never be the same as spending decades practicing and perfecting with an actual instrument.
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0wxnUwO5ZPi
>tfw no $$$$$ to waste on mics for the drums and recording equipment
>>709881493
Does drawing in ms paint make you a painter?
Technically there was no judgement in calling someone a producer, people just get butthurt because they want to consider themselves musicians.
>>709881716
If you make something awesome in MSPaint that people enjoy, then you still have talent despite what some salty struggling painter things of you.
I'm >>709881678
>>709881678
I never said that it was worth any less being an electronic music producer. I enjoy quite a bit of electronic music, and some rap, but that was besides the point.
>>709881493
What I was saying is that you aren't even creating music, you're cutting other peoples music and trying to make it your own sound
See:
>>709881517
>>709881517
One still needs a knowledge of music theory to make music on a computer. I'm not saying it is superior in any way to instrumental music, but I'm saying as long as you are making music, you are a musician.
>>709877401
My main instrument is the guitar. Piano and drums are also fun to practice and play. I started learning how to play the guitar 10 year ago. I am proficient in many genres but I don't enjoy labeling my art. I want my art to represent itself, I don't want predispositions, but, your average listener would probably describe what I and my buddies play metal with a side of jazz and classical and hip hop influences. Bassists are strange. Sometimes they're just musically uneducated and play because it's easy. Sometimes they're extremely good and expressive. Sometimes they don't care sometimes they do. We need them when they aren't around but you only need one of them.
>>709877401
>Guitar
>Bass
>6 years
>Funk
>because counting is hard for them
>>709881803
Yes, but that was not the question. Having "talent" is not related to being a musician. You can be a shitty musician. You're not a painter because you're not painting, you're possibly a graphical designer. There's no inherent value to this, but you pretend like it is just because you're salty musicians don't consider you one of them.
>>709881716
lol it can certainly make you an artist you elitist faglord
you're act of comparing differing entities reduces the integrity of your statement because the factors are not the same regardless of how close they may be in your stupid ass example.
>>709881843
and i never once said that i sample anything i simply said it is one of the backbones of modern music you absolute niggerfaggot
>pic related
>>709877401
>What's your main instrument? Electric Bass
>Do you play anything else? Guitar, Sing
>How long have you been playing? 6 years, started 8th grade
>What genre are you most proficient in? Funk and Alternative
>Why are bassists so fucking thick-skulled? easiest instrument, makes you look better, think youre good
>>709881918
No you don't. You CLEARLY don't. I know multiple people with zero knowledge of music, but software knowledge. They sample what others that knew what they were doing produced and then cut it together into a loop. There is no need for any musical theory to cut together software pitched ducks, please, who do think you're kidding?
>Eb Tuba for a Salvation Army staff band, not specifying which city
>a variety of valved brass instruments, intermediate piano, I'm also a Tenor 1 (go figure)
>started the tuba sometime in middle school
>I prefer brass band marches
>your last note also applies to the brass bass section as well.
>>709882107
>ITT: people misreading on purpose because they think there was any evaluation of skill in not calling someone a musician.
Never once did I not say you're an artists. You're just not a musician. Unless you actually play the stuff you compose into a song,
>>709877401
Typical bass players are failed guitarist. A real bassist doesn't write the music. They write bass lines to the music. They must keep time and accent with drums and stay in key with guitars. Until they learn this aspect, they are not good.
>guitar
>nothing else
>30 years
>classical and progressive metal
>>709877401
>Drums
>a few licks on guitar
>7 years
>hard rock/metal mostly experiment with weird time signatures/riffs
>>709881959
>but you pretend like it is
Hell, I play the drums. I'm probably less of a musician than those guys. But I think they should still get some credit as an "Artist" because they create something that other people enjoy, even if people are hesitant to call them musicians.
I'm just saying I know where you're coming from because I used to think like that. But then I started listening to all different stuff and became more open-minded because I can find stuff from all different genres that I enjoy whether the artist has been playing their instrument for 30 years or just started messing around on the computer a couple years ago.
>>709882321
I meant to say "brass band military marches"
>>709882432
Forgot this
>bassists are thick skull ed because they think their instrument is the most important in the band
>>709882359
>progressive metal
Everyone's and their fckin mom is a "metal musician" or something like that now and it's real Shyte cuz none of them ever grasp what you just said when we try and jam in my friends little studio
>>709882340
I certainly do play stuff i compose into a song.
That is irrelevant. Sampling changes nothing, one is still a musician when practising it.
>>709882131
that would be like me picking up a guitar and just randomly playing, am i now a musician? because i am now playing a guitar with a completely original score?
someone with a computer can load another song sample it and transpose it timestretch it anything but with no ability or skill it will sound terrible, with no musical understanding it will sound terrible, just the same with picking up a guitar.
the relative comparison shows how retarded it is to attempt to compare the two.
>Guitar
>No
>1.5 yrs
>Math Rock
>>709882644
I think everyone band member secretly believes this and that's fine I'd rather have all four people thinking that without them we'd sound completely different than all four people not worried about being drowned out and thinking the other three players will pick up their slack
>>709882530
Read the answers that already addressed every single point of this post.
Artist =/= musician
An artist creates art, whether it's paintings, music, sculptures, stories or poems.
A musical artist still doesn't equal a musician, and this is where it all blends together.
A musician plays an instrument, a producer creates music separate from being a musician. A producer creates complete works, a musician doesn't, and if they do, they're both a producer and a musician. Both are artists.
It has nothing to do with demeaning electronic music, as I clearly stated before - I listen to quite a bit of electronic music, and some rap. This still doesn't mean picking things and combining them makes you a musician.
>>709882321
Were you in a marching band?
>>709882832
You mean every member of babbys first band.
>guitarist
>In traditional metal I believe the drums are the most important factor. The other instruments are somewhat replacable
>>709877401
>>709877401
>>709877401
You sound like some college faggot who is probably hoping to major in engineering.
Also I play bass, and am way better than any of you guitar fags.
I make bank off it too. Stupid dumb cunts will never leave your bedroom/garage if you don't realize everything else but the guitar is what makes a band.
Guitar is easy. It also sounds like shit too.
Bass can reach the range of guitars, but guitars cannot reach the range of a bass.
![a980585b5b0b5c889532c72f631dfbc0761f1c9ead7289d39cca2527ac75103c[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/THACnho.jpg "a980585b5b0b5c889532c72f631dfbc0761f1c9ead7289d39cca2527ac75103c[1].jpg")
>>709877401
>Recorder
>A single snare drum
>Since second grade
>Children's Music
>Because they are
>>709877401
Guitar
Drums, vocal
5 years
Mostly songs with a lot of syncopation i make up on the spot, do a lot of improv, it calms the soul. Also classical and rock and some pop for the ocasional normie get-together
>>709883137
this, as evidenced by in legend
>>709880196
>@kristnovoselic
fuckin kek'd
>>709883064
Yes the staff band is Also a marching band and you can see me in the rose bowl parade if you watch it.
>>709883149
you are a completely different type of thick skulled bassist
yes, bass can reach the reange of a guitar, with harmonics and shit
>but what is timbre
>what is a chord
>range is everything
>hurr fucken durr
>>709878628
Kill your self. No really, im giving helpful advice. Do it.
You'll never create anything original, nor will you be successful.
>>709877401
>guitar
>yes (recorder, piano, ocarina, violin, sax, harmonica, bass)
>21 years
>jazz
>dunno
>>709883149
>actually taking offence
>doesn't realize his instrument is to a large portion played by people unaware of what the fuck they're doing
>because a vast majority of bass players are left over shitty guitarists
Bass is not only important, but powerful and an amazing instrument. It's just that more than half of the players can't even tell the head from the body
>>709877586
tbh, Vocals an chorus are quite an instrument specially when the band suck cock
>singing
>guitar/bass/piano/uke/harp/accordion
>singing for 20+ years, everything else about 10 years
>folk/electronic
>because so many people who play bass have no creativity or when they do they dont have the skills to match. i feel like bassists practice much less than any other kind of instrumentalist.
>>709883345
People that actually care about creating music does it for themselves, not to be successful. I don't need your approval, I create music for my own sake. Maybe you should try creating something for yourself, you might end up less of an angsty piece of shit no one likes once you grow up.
>>709882928
I think you're just being picky. Lots of the people who create electronic music have some musical talent and could easily pick up an instrument and become a real """musician""" within a couple months. Dudes who play instruments and have that creative mind could learn the software and make something cool. And the dude who is good with computers but has no creative or musical ability could surely make noise but it will never be enjoyable.
Either way, they're creating music that people enjoy so I could call them musicians. I would go so far as to say the EDM artist making songs that millions of people enjoy is more of a musician that the guy who has been playing guitar in a cover band for 20 years and is great but can't write his own songs for shit. Same with the visual artists, I would probably give more credit to the graphic designer who creates a movie or video game world from scratch than a painter who can replicate Picassos perfectly but can't make an original that people want to look at.
https://youtu.be/WnLHTs8CyUI
>>709883380
Not an instrument, but a skill practiced and perfected into channeling emotions. A musical element, definitely.
>>709877401
Been playing drums for about 15 or so years (26 now). Don't really play anything else except for the fork.
>>709877401
>guitar
>flute
>7 years
>Jazz-Blues
>Bassist inferiority complex
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1d03yr_NBc
>>709883572
Of course being one does in no way eliminate the other. That was not the question, you've skewered it on purpose. Producing is a skill I very much work on getting better at, but being an electronic music producer and calling yourself a musician is like calling your studio engineer a musician. Most likely, they do know something about music, but being a producer doesn't MAKE you a musician.
>>709883745
>inferiority complex
Go to a local show. In 9 cases out of 10, the bassist is the shittiest musician. What's great about bass is that the ones who really practice has a presence unlike any other instrument.
>>709877401
Bass Trombone
9 years
Classical and jazz
>>709883821
https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&rlz=1C1CHBF_en-GBGB712GB712&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=define%20musician
you can keep arguing but its not ever going to be true
>>709883325
Are you butthurt? You forgot all 4 of the characteristics of tone.
Pitch, duration, amplitude, and timbre yes.
Timbre is specifally the natural EQ of a tone.
Bass timbre can match that of a guitar easily.
A chord is 3 tones played simultaneously, something a bass can do easily.
Guitarist are fucking shit, they think they NEED 5 or 6 string chords that take up way to much musical space for a composition.
Learn what your fucking fingers are playing.
I'm a better guitarist than most of you no doubt.
Been playing bass for 17 years. It was my first stringed instrument. Always had a thing for the low end. Played trombone first then tuba. Bassists are stupid because it's assumed to be easy(and it can be if you don't gaf) and that whole "most important instrument" meme. I'd rather have a solid bass line from a decent bassist that can keep a beat than have a shitty out of key off tempo mess wrapped in bullshit from a faggot that thinks he's victor wooten.
>>709883821
Being a club DJ who mixes samples from different songs is quite different from electronic "musicians" who create most of the beats from scratch and sample a lot of their own original stuff. I think there is more to being a "musician" than playing an instrument, it has to do with creativity and making original works. If you just play an instrument and cover other people's works, you're more of an "instrumentalist" than an "artist" or "musician".
I'm an oldfag too who should be shitting on all this new electronic bullshit.
>>709883361
I'm not offended in the least, the fact you see it that way says a lot about you already.
Fact is most guitarist are shitty bass players. Don't get your little .9's into a twist.
>>709883564
So you're just as stupid as it comes. How successful are you playing just your own shitty compositions? Not very? Oh wow, such a shocker...
I'm very liked actually, and the off topic remarks are undoubtedly remarks you are making about yourself to try to help your own fragile ego.
>>709879568
i have literally copy pasted ZERO samples
everything i make is from my own hands
(except this one time i sampled some soul)
Two turntables and a microphone
>>709877401
>Guitar
>Bass and keyboard
>2 years
>Prog metal
>>709883932
I stop going to local shows a while ago super novas personalities and card board cutouts aren't my cup of tea. yeah essentially that is true a lot of bass players suck but I have been around enough to meet one GOOD bass player with 20+years experience and he even struggles with just being a musician among other musicians always talking smack about the other musicians specially any musician that takes up a long solo whenever I smoke with him it just unending bitchyness
>>709877401
>Bass
>No
>8 Month, i am really bad
>Rock, I guess
>I don't know, but I definitely agree with you
As a professional bass player listen here you stupid newfag.
Guitarist are scared of bassist. FUCKING TERRIFIED.
You all try to talk shit because deep down you know that we control the ENTIRE composition.
WE ARE THE CHORD.
We save your shitty substitutions that would sound godly with the right bass but you cant reach on your own.
We keep you all on the fucking BEAT! You stupid niggers.
Niggers are better at keeping a simple sense of even beat than you stupid pastey white cracker shits.
Deep down you all wish you were the fucking bass player because we control the god damn chordal structure heard to the god damn mind.
You lazy faggots see figured bass notation and leave it directly up to us.
I'm sick of guitarist thinking they are so fucking cool.
>Why are guitarist so fucking ego-tistical?
>>709885026
You're not getting me today
>>709879220
>https://soundcloud.com/trysn/clcc
sub is too low, needs more saturation/distortion around the pressure point harmonic
hats sounds too tinny, try de essing them or just use a different hat sample, sounds like literal oldschool drum machine, not good.
snare/clap is underneath the mix, it needs to be in the front of the mix, it is also flabby, the transient doesnt pop at all, sounds pretty awful
the kick is also underneath the mix, and you're making trap so bruh come the fuck on wat are you even doing it needs to be in the front of the mix, make the kick snare mono and bring it forwards in the track. compress the bus and run a send heavily compressed to the whole drum kit to bring up lower harmonics, turn this send down the blend it into the mix of the original, this will bring the drums forward and stop this shitty empty/flavbby sound you got going on
the synthy noise going bluuhh/then up bluuh/ then down bluuh sounds terrible
the reverb on your drums is also pretty shitty
the intro sounds pretty cool though except that shitty guy saying kush or w/e
i know this is made to be rapped over but tbh i think this is sub par.
parralell compression will make a big difference in your mix i think, also you should work at a lower amplitude to allow the bass to become more present. infact, it will allow you more room in your gain staging, it will probably make eveyrtihng sound more correctly aligned.
>>709885026
I didn't know John plays bass
>>709877401
>guitar
>vocals a bit
>around 4 and a half years
>metal, primarily atmospheric shit, but I'm not very good
>only bassists I've ever gotten to know personally are multi-instrumentalists, so they're pretty knowledgeable with music
I'd like to learn piano and percussion some day.
>>709884035
I am a fucking bassist, producer, classically trained musician at tertiary levels and with industry experience
>timbre is natural eq of a tone
you don't know what the fuck you are talking about
>bass can match gat timbre easily
>a chord is three notes played simultaneously
yes, and you're not gonna get a guitar tone when you're strumming away at three fucken bass strings
>think they need 5 or 6 string chords
>takes up way too much musical space for a composition
Evidently, you've never orchestrated for a 40 part orchestra before
Evidently you think you can play 6 string guitar sweep, or even just arpeggio patterns on the bass
Evidently you are a fucking retard
>am I butthurt
no, being edgy on an anonymous forum is a meme
>>709877401
Bass
I try to live past the stereotype
Literally just got the imstrument, about a month ago
Play thrash metal, power metal without the gay vocals
Basically it's thrash, speed, or prog/classical metal, each song is meant to have a "story" of sorts
All of us are into mythology, guitarist is into Norse myths, I'm into Aztec and grecoroman, and the last guy and drummer are into native American and Asian myths
>>709886245
sounds like trash, but honestly good on ya anon, everyone has to start somewhere
>>709877401
Question about bass as an instrument, or guitar anyhow
Recommended amount of practice?
> Piano
> Guitar, ukulele, ocarina, violin and I sing pretty well too
> 4-5 years
> Classical/singer-songwriter
I tried bass but I suck ass at playing complicated baselines. And yeah, I don't think I've ever met a bassist in my life that can play their instrument properly or washes. They really are a gross bunch.
>>709886314
I didn't mean the vocals themselves. Its hard to explain.
Yknow cowboy chords and how in your mind, hearing those progression remind you of the west? Its the same with Japanese music progressions, medieval ones, etc.
The music itself is supposed to sound adventurous, like a bard at a feast in ancient Greek times.
>>709877401
>What's your main instrument?
Was an opera singer, but degree in digital music production (writing for film/tv/advertising/media/etc) which is what I do now
>Do you play anything else?
Also degree in Flute
>How long have you been playing?
Was an opera singer until I was 21, 6 years digital music production, 2.5 years flute.
>What genre are you most proficient in?
Everything. You have to be versatile to get the jobs.
>Why are bassists so fucking thick-skulled?
Dunno. They're useless cunts
>>709886472
>why are bassists useless?
Guitarists seem to pick them at random, and often end up picking some retard who said he had "some"interest in playing their genre
>>709879377
That's awesome man. You studied at university? Aiming for a permanent orchestral gig?
Mine
>>709877401
>Guitar
>"Vocals", Drums, Bass, and some other gay ass instruments
>Guitar 11 years, gay ass instruments 17 years
>Grunge
>They wouldn't be bass players else
>>709885926
You have never done any of those. I have however, in fact I had to be the MD for a 86 piece Orch, so you really are possibly autistic with assumptions that you are a special little snowflake here.
You can get a guitar tone strumming on 5 bass strings, dumbass. You've obviously never tried cause you have no real talent or creativity.
Whats a timbre there though homo? Go ahead and try to define it better after you google it. Timbre is easily adjustable with proper EQing, maybe you're just poor and stupid to know about this though.
Maybe you should produce some television shows, you could get some experience and not sound like a total retard every time you try to communicate.
>>709886724
>>709886724
Why bats? They're not metal.
>>709877401
>piano
>guitar
>2 years
>ragtime
>because once you learn basically how to play a pitch control instrument (ie: piano, single-string guitar, bass, sliding whistle) or basic music theory, bass guitar is easy as shit to play. Even I can play it and I've never practiced it.
>>709886932
That's the inlay Schecter puts on the Damien guitar......I just lit them up
You anons are fucking wankers. If you're going to tell us you play an instrument, prove it. Send a short audio clip of you playing something.
>>709877401
Lmao we suppose to believe you a mucisian an you post colonel Sanders wit a guitar lololol
>>709878170
Every basest I've ever played with, I always get them to do this one thing. To see how they'll learn it in front of me, or play it if they know it.
Going The Distance by Cake.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cno20onK9dY
It's not hard, but I like to see how they handle it.
If they won't learn it, or can't play it ok-ish, they're no use to us.
>>709886973
>>709887170
I played this a year ago when I was undertale trash http://vocaroo.com/i/s0vmGsRCZD32
>>709886973
>even I can play it
Well I can play a bagpipe, harp, violin, cello, saxophone.
Doesn't mean I'm actually fucking proficiently good with them.
Bass isn't just another instrument, it is the fucking chord. It is responsible to determine what true chord is being played.
Otherwise you'd probably sound like an inverted fuck.
Imagine having to hold down your own bass on EVERY instrument. You wouldn't be able to play complicated parts with ease. You would suck ass.
>>709887339
>>709887170
whoops, wrong post. I meant >>709887147
>guitar
>bass, saxophone, piano, some vocals
>6 yrs
>rock or classical
As far as im concerned a musician plays in a band.
There are two types of people.
Those who favorites bands have 3 maybe 4 or 5 memebers. With guitar, drums, and bass.
And those who favorite bands are full sized ensembles or orchestras.
I hate guitar.
>>709887370
I'm just saying that the bass guitar is easier to play than most other instruments -without practice-. Proficiency is irrelevant. I'm not discrediting true professional bass guitar players (because lets face it, they are fucking incredible.)
>>709877401
Saxophone
I also play guitar
Been playing since 5th grade
I mostly play jazz sax and classic rock guitar
>>709886804
You can literally only get any timbre you want when you start of with white noise and chuck EQ over it - its called subtractive synthesis
And yes, with some stupid EQing you can get a fucken guitar tone out of a fucken bass, but that's counter intuitive and not necessary. I know, I've fucken done the opposite and recorded demos playing bass on the guitar while I was short on a bass, and its fucken stupid.
And with that your logic, why do we even have different instruments? Fucked if I know, just fucken EQ everything, fuck
And I'll beg your pardon, I have performed as part of, conducted, and composed for orchestras and other ensembles. And I only brought that up because for some reason you feel the two extra fucking strings on a guitar takes up
>too much space for musical composition
what the fuck is that supposed to mean
And I'm not sure why screenplay production has anything to do with anything here, but interestingly enough I have done music and sound for a couple of short films, it's definitely something else and respect to those who work in that area.
>>709887785
Also yeah I can't greentext, I'm a newfag
>>709886557
This.
Plus, most pop and rock music has incredibly simple, stupid basslines. There's no need for bassists in those kind of bands to really study their instrument.
>>709877401
>What's your main instrument?
Guitar
>Do you play anything else?
No, but I'd love to.
>How long have you been playing?
About 8-9 years.
>What genre are you most proficient in?
Just rock
>Why are bassists so fucking thick-skulled?
I don't know. Where I live, bassists are very scarce.
>>709887921
I oddly enough actually like you now. I thought you were actually autistic for a second.
Aye, in this day today, I can't stress enough how much I love just using bass, keys, and guitar to make all my sounds.
I've been there to using guitar for bass, you're correct its really fucking stupid. I couldn't get rid of a crisp 9-10k freq without making it sound like a muddy tinny trashcan. I had used a moog minataur.
I actually love just using a korg midi keyboard and plugins from my motherfucking waves mercury.
I almost wonder why any other instruments should ever be used in studio if you want to save time and complications.
>>709877401
>What's your main instrument?
Alto sax and guitar
>Do you play anything else?
Bass, piano, clarinet, flute, trombone, pretty much anything besides double reed instruments
>How long have you been playing?
My mains I have been playing for 15+ years. The other ones I picked up as part of pursuing my music ed degree.
>What genre are you most proficient in?
It's a tie between metal, jazz (college level rote), and neoclassical (majoring in alto sax means playing LOTS of Creston).
>Why are bassists so fucking thick-skulled?
Honestly I think it's cos they get bored playing bass. I played bass for a bar band for a while, and I found myself tempted to be an idiot.
>>709877826
Yeah boi. If I ever win a lotto, I'm getting one from him, one from Skervesen, one from Lionheart, and one fromVandermeij at the very least.
>>709888808
I forgot to add, I NEVER EVER fucking use fake percussion though. UNLESS it is like some wierd ass thing hidden in the plugins. This grammy artist works his ass off with the drums in my comps studio. So worth it. If he can't lay down the tracks first, I usually just click track/shiity drum bass for him to follow later.
>clarinet
>a little guitar
>bout 8 years
>jazz, classical is okay i guess
>>709878890
>andy mckee, antoine dufour
>antoine dufour
my fucking nigga
I know the following songs by him:
Trilogy
Glimmer of Hope
Spiritual Groove
Drac and Friends (Don Ross)
Inspirations
Ashes in the Sea
Been fplaying for 5 years
>>709888808
>888808 fuck dude
I mean, I'm one of those people who like to make use of as much technology as I can in the studio, but I also play live a lot so when I'm working on studio stuff for a mainly live project, I prefer to cut back being liberal with all the weird and wonderful shit you can do in the studio to a more stripped back, actual instrument kinda approach (I'm all for amp modelling though)
My main 3 piece band is really bass and drum centric, guitar used in a textural way a lot of the time that for live, realistically can't be done on bass without severe compromises. That being said, a fucken synth could probably take over the gat line without too much fuss lmao
Shit though, waves has some cool stuff, I need to become much better aquainted with their tools and libraries
>>709877401
>What's your main instrument?
bass...
>Do you play anything else?
no
>How long have you been playing?
4 years or sth
>What genre are you most proficient in?
metal, and currently trying to learn how to play jazz
>Why are bassists so fucking thick-skulled?
i suck because i have ignored music theory for too long, also i'm a bit lazy on learning new things because its depressing when i see how much i suck
how do you guys get your motivation and inspiration to learn new things? it always depresses me and thus i avoid it mostly, probably a reason why i play bad
>>709879977
Dubs. Truth.
>>709879991
>emo, mathrock
listen to Tangled Hair, Colour, Invalids, and Tera Melos
>>709889538
often feel like the only plugs waves provide that dont have a better counterpart are the L3 series
i mean even then izotope would probably be better, maybe less extreme but you can achieve the same sound just by pushing it further imo
constantly finding new vsts to replace my waves shit
>>709887334
>334 â–¶
>>>709878170
cake is so good
>>709877401
Keyboard.
I'm a software developer.
>>709885225
thanks, you know your shit and i appreciate your feedback man. and i agree its semi lazily done but i have only been producing for slightly under a year now so every project i make i learn hundreds of new things. i really need to master my mastering skills and EQing skills
>>709877401
2yrs guitar master.
my 300$ acoustic sounds better than your mom's moans at night
>>709889712
Of those I like Tangled hair
Invalids and even more so tera melos are way too indie for my taste
Dunno Colour, I'll checkem
Cheers anon
>>709877826
what a homo. he just had to shoehorn his tattoo into the picture.
>>709877401
>What's your Main Instrument?
Master Race Trumpet Reporting.
>Do you play anything else?
All brass really but only nice on trumpet.
>How long have you been playing
8 Years
>What Genre are you most proficient in?
Pop and Jazz.
>Why are bassists so fucking thick-skulled?
The basses I've played with all rocked, one couldn't read for shit but he had an incredible ear.
>>709890176
>2 years
fuck you must be god
>>709890006
no fam you need to master your sound design and then mixing skills, you should leave mastering to someone else, a fresh ear when attempting to get the last bit of juice out of your track will be well worth the investment in the long run. the fact of the matter is that your ears have probably attuned to this track and regardless of what you are attempting to get you are always going to have a jaded perception whereas a mastering engineer can approach from fresh perspective.
work quietly and reference your mix alongside something else similar to your desired track.
always work with a spectrum, note the individual frequencies of the major harmonics of each channel on your track, scoop them out of eachother 4-6db. sidechain your noises to eachother with slow attack and slow release with a threshold around -5, this will duck your sounds in and out of eachother, giving more space in the mix to more important components at differing times.
produce quietly, get ur mix right, mastering is a different process and mindset. if you are mastering while mixing you are wasting time.
use only a brickwall limiter on your masterbus and that should only be for saftey, dont clip anything during ur processing chain unless you really want that plugins algorithms impact, an example of this would be using one compressor as opposed to another and pumping it hard to acheive the saturated sound that the one you chose provides that the other doesnt.
this again is just sound design and should not be part of your mixing or mastering.
im not massively experienced so anyone else feel free to shut me down
>Contrabass (5 yr.)
>Piano (15 yr.), guitar (6 yr.), electric bass (4 yr.), singing (14 yr.), lute (1 yr.)
>Classical or Baroque
>Because we don't give a shit
>percussion
>yes, many things
>my entire life
>I'm the best at marching snare and marching tenors
>Ego?
>>709877401
>Flute
>No
>Since I was 7
>Classical I think, pretty much all genres
>'cause they're full of shit
>>709890921
why?
>>709890311
>tera melos
>indie
dude listen to their earlier albums
>>709891031
Everyone in my class does it, we can't chose instruments, just flute
>>709890656
sounds like pretty solid tips to me, thanks a lot man. you are probably very right about having the jaded perception of listening to it over and over too.
ive just learned to produce quietly but yeah the i need to master the frequencies, but thanks for real good advice, rare on this board
>>709890312
>not knowing anything about Patrick Hufschmid
Dude owns a fucking castle. Could have done anything and decided to build guitars. He's fuckin awesome, tattoo aside
>>709890665
Also, everyone shits on us for our instrument, so we tend to decide that everyone else can go fuck themselves. Bassists, at least contrabassists, tend to have a better grasp on music theory than anyone else in an orchestra other than the conductor, but we often get shit parts and a bunch of grief from the other sections. So, we make fun of you behind your backs and do silly shit like learn the other parts of the score we're done learning our parts perfectly in two hours. Seriously, rehearsing for us is just playing absentmindedly from memory whilst daydreaming about other shit.
>Trumpet
>play kit and keys a little
>8 years
>Jazz
>Idk
>>709892331
Wanna buy an Otto Beyer? $1k plus shipping and it's yours. Unless you live in ga and wanna meet half way
>>709877401
>percussion
Since i was able to hold a stick
>guitar
Since age 13(not very good though)
>>709877826
wow ur guitar looks rly good i bet ur rely good
>>709892733
Age 13 doesn't mean shit when we don't know your current age faggot
>>709892938
he's at least 18 so 5+ years and he's still not good
>>709893534
>hes 18+
>on 4chan
lol
banjo
deering goodtime crow
Guitar
Learning bass since no bassist
About a year now
Thrash and heavy metal (rhythm)
>>709877401
My peeanus weeanus of course, ahaha.
>>709893957
For learning bass: if you don't know theory yet, LEARN IT! It'll take a while, but it'll make learning bass way easier.
>>709894322
nigger if you are a musician at all you should learn theory. I dont respect """"musicians"""" who don't know theory
If you don't know Do Mi So, get the fuck out of my face
sorry guys but I like to actually do something not boring with my time, unlike you music faggots
>>709877401
Does it trigger you that I could learn to play any instrument with a minor bit of devotion because of the time I have spent building an understanding of how sound reacts relatively to how humans perceive audio.
The only hang up would be the physicality of picking/plucking/pressing/blowing and as a dexterous individual this wouldn't really take long at all.
My education has enabled me to play whatever I want while my ear for keys and notes enables me to compose and support my physical learning.
umad?
>>709894540
Well, yeah.
>>709877401
>Guitar
>Bass, Drums, Vocal
>7 Years
>Metalcore, Post-Hardcore, Deathcore, anything core really.
>Because they're typically drunk or high
been playing me drums since i was just eight i play best to jazz with a slight hint of swing you know i focus mostly on my timing and pride myself on the fact my timing is quite good
>>709877401
>Guitar
>Piano, Ukulele, Harmonica
>18 years
>Classical
>kek
>>709879128
>the absolute fucking truth
>>709877790
It's Narciso Yepes, and he played 10 string guitars.
>>709894689
Whats the most advanced bit of theory you know?
I believe a mind blower for me was finding out you can use parallel major/minor key with the same tonic to get different "fresher" resolutions to my chordal progressions.
>guitar
>bass, drums, synthesizer
>almost 5 years
>blues, new wave, post-punk, Devo/Pere Ubu shit
>Because that's the way God intended
>>709877401
>ukulele
>guitar even though I'm way far behind compared to how long I've been playing it and. Piano but not to good either
>guitar and piano since eighth and ukulele since 9th
>I guess classical because the ukulele is just a smaller nylon guitar with less strings so pretty easy to finger it
>music theory = none
classical guitar,kind of linked picked
& messed around on nylon for 30 years,while listening to all genres with young superhearing,I learned note reading,always a struggle with reading fast phrases, I could do bach pieces,the bouree for lute,villa lobos,esp the prelude #1 in E,tarrega,spanish eyes as a tremelo study,it was letter perfect in technique,clarity,christmas carols, o holy night,developed a neuro muscle problem,in 50s,no more playin like I did,played really well only for ten years or so till the muscle thing kicked in,,,fckn bastard.
kind of liked,,not linked,
>>709877401
>FL Studio
>No, and I don't need to
>3 months
>EDM, experimental
>Because not everybody can be as great as me
>>709881243
There is no such thing as completely original music. I guess you could invent a new instrument and new theory arrangement with no recognizable rhythm, but people would not connect with it (or even listen to it if they weren't graduate students in music)
>>709895519
using chords from the parallel key is called using "borrowed chords" and you should look up "applied dominants" and maybe "tritone substitution" for similar effects of reharmonization.
>Tuba
>Bari Sax, Baritone, Alto Sax, Trumpet
>6 years
>Classical, Swing
>lots of drugs and alcohol
>>709896734
Thank you anon.
is this really the hard stuff though? Like what is the most advanced bit of theory you can apply?
>>709877401
>Guitar
>no
> 4 years soonish
> went from metalcore to prog metal
> because they are mostly black
pic related, my main guitar
>>709882693
Yea man, it's a bitch when players aren't on the same page. You really need one person to control everything while writing unless the other person is your twin.
>Bass
>no
>1 year
>rock
>because we think the band can't survive without us.
>>709897617
It all works together, you cannot apply a single peice of theory and call it advanced. Its cumulative and comprehensive.
Look up Miltion Babbits Magic Square
Serialism
And things to do with the whole-tone scale.
if you want something more listenable (simple), look up jazz chords like Altered Dominants.
>>709877819
I hate people that think bass is easier.
>>709898217
Now have you heard of animals as leaders good sir?
>>709898349
it 100% is. bass is guitar for children
>>709898349
So do I. That is why I hate all other musicians.
>>709898544
But contrabass is violin for men.
