which tanks is the best in the world, and why?
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which tanks is the best in the world, and why?
>>709760752
tanks doesn't help you anymore in Modern fights where air control is everything
>but ofc the German Leopard 2
>>709760752
T-90.
>>709761003
yeah, highly armored IFV's like the T-15 is the future
>>709761003
Partially true. Air power can't control everything though. Boots on the ground is what wins the war. Air power just minimizes your casualties.
>>709760752
I'd say the Abrams for modern tanks, but if it was the best tank for its time, I'd say the German Panther tank.
![challenger_2[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/KuYmke5.jpg "challenger_2[1].jpg")
>>709760752
Challenger II
>In one encounter within an urban area, a Challenger 2 came under attack from irregular forces with machine guns and rocket propelled grenades. The driver's sight was damaged and, while attempting to back away under the commander's directions, the other sights were damaged and the tank threw its tracks entering a ditch. It was hit directly by 14 rocket propelled grenades from close range and a MILAN anti-tank missile.[21] The crew survived, remaining safe within the tank until it was recovered for repairs, the worst damage being to the sighting system. It was back in operation six hours later, after repairs had been done. One Challenger 2 operating near Basra survived being hit by 70 RPGs in another incident.
best tank
>>709761351
>Abrams
>German Panther
>>709761448
That's artillery, you retard.
>>709761518
thanks hitler
>>709761351
well, the only thing i can say is that air control is everything, the US has the most aircraft carrier -> this means you can Control everything so they would win if its not going to be a nuclear war
>>709760752
Kawaii tank is da best!
>>709761973
Best in the Sea also
>>709762030
this thread is dead now
>>709761973
You cannot control the ground with just air power. Air power makes it a lot easier to establish control of the ground by limiting the enemies movement. It will not however root out insurgencies, take out snipers, etc. It will keep the enemy pinned down while ground forces maneuver to take them out.
>>709762030
FUCK YES
step aside shitters
>>709762306
M4 sherman of course
4 of them could defeat a tiger
Armata
>>709760752
the answer is: the ones we use now. Short answer: the latest models.
Tiger II is the best tank ever made
>>709760752
easy ... every english tank ... they have kettle's inside so you can drink tea all the time ...
>>709760752
No one
Tanks could be taken by just using drones or TOW missiles or even mines.
Tanks are expensive and demands more and more fuel expenses as armors becomes heavier.
>>709762758
Nuclear tanks when
>>709762307
Love that piece of shit!
>>709762852
>>709762758
They wouldn't shoot it either cause it would cause fallout if it explodes.
>>709762852
Never
Imagine them being blown
>>709762548
was
any modern tank can rip that shit apart
>>709762758
>>709762548
Nice!
Duh...
>>709762368
>literally the worst tank ever
>>709761402
That's what the Dorchester armour does for you. Best tank armour in the world by a long shot, I'm pretty sure the Abrams uses it too
>>709762417
Why is the Armata calassified as a medium tank. What do the russian alcoholics classify as a heavy tank?
>>709763042
y tho?
cheap, fast, light and dominates quality by quantity usa spammed the battlefield with this at the time of WW2 and that did the thing
>>709763202
Agreed. Fucking stealth tanks.
>>709760752
M1A1 Abrams
>>709763361
Sure, 1 000 000 civilians with rifles will win you the war, but that doesn't mean they're good fighters.
Giraffe tank is best tank
>>709763305
Yep Abrams and both Challengers are the only tanks that (officially) use Chobham/Dorchester armour.
I put the Challenger II above the Abrams because it has an easier to maintain & repair diesel engine rather than the gas turbine in the Abrams.
>>709763661
>>709763793
>>709760752
abrams is god , that shit cant be destroyed and barfs with firepower
>>709763712
nigger
>>709763712
That tankz are the bezt tankz fo whhaaaaaaagggg
Bobby Lee gets all the bitches
landkreuzer ratte
>>709763623
yes if they would be niggers - nothing of value is lost and enemy is defeated, quantity is the best
Landkreuzer P. 1000 Ratte
>>709764181
best tank
>>709764096
mah nigga
>>709761295
Underrated post
Israeli Merkava Mk. 4 Baz
>>709764181
how would they even fire that without it flying off the rail way? makes no sense no wonder it was a fucking failure.
>>709763956
>that shit cant be destroyed
Would you like to look up American tank losses in Iraq and get back to us?
>>709764181
but why the fuck youve posted railgun gustav ?
this is ratte
>>709764495
Agree
>>709762417
amen brother
>>709764495
nigger jews stole the white mans tank tech & all other science & tech
>>709764594
are you sure they lose those abrams' with "ironfist" thingy ?
>>709763862
Sorry
I know it's not a tank
But this thread made me think of it.
>>709764908
>>709763305
>>709763729
no match for depleted uranium ammunition
>>709760752
>which tanks is the best in the world, and why?
I agree with this guy>>709761402
poland stronk , this shit is actually in polish army , at least they dont use horses and sabres anymore (i hope)
>>709760752
Probably K2 Black Panther, but Leo 2A5+, Leclerc and M1A2 are comparable. T-14 Armata has a very interesting construction, but its boasted performance sounds like bullshit to me based on the fact that it's like 10 tonnes lighter than all modern tanks...
>>709760752
>>709761003
The OP momma. It is heavier of all of those and have a bigger cannon than a streetlight. :D
>>709761518
the game
>>709765614
>>709765501
Flying tank
>>709765614
>not posting superior Swedistan version
>>709766074
Your mom is a flying tank
>>709765800
M'Führer
>>709760752
/thread
>>709766074
> Flying tank
>>709763347
your mom
>>709761493
Yeah dude the panther was fucking trash. It didn't even work 40% of the time. Superior T-34 kicked its ass.
>>709766142
>>709766575
>>709765069
One way to make them less susceptible to DU is to get US pilots to stop shooting Allies.
Tanks don't matter when they're unable to come out of hiding, in fear of drones or other superior aircraft
>>709766927
come on, guys
>>709767043
kek
>>709767110
>>709766927
> Look it's my first day let's kil some te... o shit>>709767110
tank with a gustav gun
size MATTERS
>>709767304
Judging by combat losses in Gulf War it's not enough even against MANPADS like Igla and Strela.
https://discord.gg/MpXqBQZ
>>709765262 dont lie nigger there are only 3 working ones left in the world
it was pretty good... until it toppled over and fucking died
>>709767304
>>709767935
>>709767304
>>709767110
>>709766927
Made me chuckle
baneblade reporting in
>>709764096
Nice big target for a dive bomber
>>709760752
Nobody mentioned th AMX Leclerc, can shoot while moving
>>709760752
we have not had a world war level armed conflict in which nations can show off their muscle, ergo without actually pitting tanks against each other in a war setting, we cant really know which would truly outperform the others...
>>709768266
All thanks can fire while moving?
> itt: Newtankfag
>>709768266
>can shoot while moving
NO FUCKING WAY AMAZING !!!!1!11
>>709768324
I don't think we will ever know. People do not realize how many lives nuclear weapons have saved. Imagine the war NATO and the Warsaw Pact would have if there were no nukes.
>>709768266
>can shoot while moving
Think most tanks can do that, but still a good looking one.
>>709762368
This right here. Winning is about logistics and economics, not about having the toughest tanks. Also those big heavy german tanks got stuck in the mud very easily compared to the Sherman.
>>709768358
All thanks you too
>>709768266
All tanks with modern fire controls can. Leclerc is definitely one of like 5 best tanks out there, apparently the armor isn't on par with newest variants of Leo or Abrams, but it's modular, so it could be very easily improved.
>>709765135
бля танк спонсированный спайсухой!
>>709768468
I actually didnt all tanks could do that
>>709760752
The A-10. It is a flying tank.
>>709768485
> All tanks
Sorry
>>709768595
Yup, it is true.
Although SPAA's and SPG's need to be still.
>>709763361
the reason U.S. had to spam the Sherman was because it was one of the worst tanks ever...
>paper armor
>shitty cannon
>gasoline engine
>no match for German tanks at the beginning of the war
quantity over quality does not fly in a modern battlefield either
>>709768824
You know, this is actually kind of making me want to develop an expression 2 AI for a bunch of kind of bad GMod ACF tanks.
But I won't. Maybe.
>>709768824
Yeah except the one thing that made it superior to most other tanks on the field was that it could be fixed.
That pile of shit Tiger was prone to mechanical issues that couldn't be fixed outside of a well-equipped workshop.
The Sherman was built with the idea that nearly every component could be replaced on a whim.
That's probably the most important thing that you could have on the battlefield.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyDPBdEUKX4
>>709768824
>>709761003
Kinda true... but in the future there will be tanks that have weird drones on them. And shit is going to get really weird when you see that tanks will spray swarms of drones the size of flys to basically get a real time view of a whole field.
I know this because fuck you I am from the future.
the better MAIN BATTLE TANK ALTAY(turkish tank) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyDPBdEUKX4
The turkish army have 4000 years experience in the war.
>>709769454
4000 is nothing if you are stuck in the past brother
>>709762548
>couldnt even cross a fucking bridge
>constantly sank into the mud everywhere
>being that much of a fucking retard
the better arms is the strategy and the experience is most better
>>709769722
Go and say that to the battle and tell it to tanks
cv 90. Well its not a real tank but its a combat tank. They can basically drive anywhere. 4 of those can easily destroy one of the new modern tanks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQqFvxHLX_U
>>709767482
What kind of bridge are you going to use with that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Br2dAmsz7eU
>>709762368
underrated
>>709770003
1 leopard 2 can easily destroy those until it runs out of shells
https://motherboard.vice.com/read/a-tour-of-ukraines-mad-max-tank-factory
“Usually a tank has 10 or 20cm of armor (in the front) but we put in 1.4m. This tank can take anything, even a big missile from a plane. It can take all the modern equipment of all the armies,” says Zvarych.
>>709768266
Drives faster backwards than forwards tho.
>>709770003
Depends, if they surround the tank then ok they may have a chance but head on. I dont think so, they may do some serious damage though....
>>709769454
Actually lol'd
>>709770003
How are they supposed to destroy a modern tank with their 40mm gun?
>>709771366
1400mm of poor quality steel in front is sure to be much less effective than front armors of modern tanks (for M1A2 it's estimated around 950mm RHA, even more for Leo 2A6).
>>709771454
kek
>>709772391
>>709772687
Actually in the article they explain that they put explosives in the middle of the different layers of armor. It's to counter the effect of the hollow-head missiles. If they do it it's because it's effective.
Won the war
Does anybody plays WoT?
>>709760752
Wawa.
It's obvious isn't it?
It's the water tank. It can hold over 15kL, it's practical for areas with flat terrain as it provides a gravity fed system. It really is a marvel of the tank industry
>>709773293
>>709773025
Would surely make nasty dents in the armor, that's all. Penetration probably below 100mm RHA.
>>709762368
made of cardboard. Not too many things in this world have to be as fun as shooting these fat fuckers with HEAT ammo and watch everyone burn
>>709763729
The challenger 2 actually uses a more advanced form than the abrams.
>>709770381
why does a tank that can send shells intercontinentally need a bridge?
>>709761402
Disclaimer: brit fag here
You cant beat chobham armour, design your tank as cleverly as you like, but nothing says fuck you to cheapo mudslime armies like eating HEAT munitions like your favorite M&Ms. The Abrams' record for combat losses belies weaknesses the challanger doesnt seem to suffer from (yes including a less war mongering government). The gun handling systems on the challenger are top class and crews are well trained. It could win on its own merits alone or at least make the "too close to call" group at the top. Add to the equation battlefield reconaisance and a british armoured division is on equal footing with any other similar fighting force, especially with the introduction of a new scout AFV (the name of which escapes me) and the replacement for the venerable sea king on its way.
>>709767046
air force dont matter when they're unable to come out of hiding, in fear of AAA or other superior weapons
>>709773025
that wont do shit against a modern MBT you fucktard, they have more than just fucking steel plates.
>>709761448
That's not a tank idiot
>>709766887
The "superiority" of the T-34 is sketchy at best, even with an 85mm it has to scrounge long and hard to find something it does better than a panther in a 1 on 1 comparison.
Of course the strength in numbers and replaceability argument is valid in a large scale war and it is here that (staying within second world war confines) I would throw my lot in with the shermans and cromwells. It pains me to commend the sherman but they represent a much better balance of refinement and ease of production than the T-34 does. Both tanks were ineffective against the heavier of their german opponents until upgraded late in the war but the eventually superior protection, firepower (either the 105mm or QF 17 pounder) and crew provision (not to mention a gearbox operable with something short of a hammer) make the sherman a more well thought out design than the T-34 in my eyes. Unfortunately its just not possible to make proper combat trials with these machines anymore so its trivial to assert one better than the other in absolute certainty.
Challenger 2 still wins though....
>>709774114
>AAA
>proceeds to post guided missiles
>MFW
>>709775630
> calls SAMs "guided missiles"
> don't have a face
>>709768958
Oh, you know what I should try then?
Make a lightly armed tank that acts as a carrier for a missile-armed drone
>>709768096
not using a top mounted storm bolter for aditional 2 barrales of hell
>pleb
