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There is opinion that South Park is goin' to shit, I mean, starting with 18 season and getting worse.
(I share this opinion)
In Russian some people says that we are just russian rednecks and can't understant humor because humor became understandable only for US residents. In the other side, I think it's fucked up what happened to main characters especially Cartman, moreover "main four" even isn't main anymore, mainstream is now Garisson and fucking memberberries.
American anon, what do you think, is South Park still relevat, cool and funny like it used to be?
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>>709625536
Southpark has been going to shit for way longer than you think.
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>>709625579
17 season was cool, at least episod about red cow is fucking awesome.
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>>709625536
Best episode will forever be "Make Love, not Warcraft"
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The season-long story arc doesn't work for a show like this. People will watch once, in order, then never again.
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The writer's are at there peak. You still watch every episode so stfu!
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>>709625536
I personally think South Park went to shit shortly after Chef was killed off. He was the catalyst that kept them as children with foul mouths. Scott Tenerman didn't help though since it pretty much turned Cartman from fat kid tryin to act cool into the ultimate unstoppable evil.
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>>709625726
I don't think so. I can't even choose the best episode cause there is at least 10-15 of their.
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>>709625536
It's been shit since season 13, be real man.
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>>709625726
Best one for me was when Cartman had that ginger kids parents killed and fed them to him.
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>>709625866
Dude, 14-17 seasons was OK.
Though, I think 8 season is the best one.
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The last good episode that I remember was Black Friday Trilogy. Also the VR is worth mentioning. Everything else season 11- today was pretty shitty.

The best seasons were 6,8,9 and 10. Especially 8 and 10.
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By the way, 18 season is the shittest one.
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i think its been getting better
season 19 and 20 are great
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>>709625536
I like it and I don't really give a fuck what others think.
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>>709625536
It's an American show for americans. Of course you don't understand it because you're not part of the greatest nation on earth. The show is funnier than ever and totally relevant. Everybody loves that show.
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>>709625536
member when Kyle used to say what he had learnt every episode? ... I member
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>>709625536
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>>709625536
It went to shit, but there's a good episode from time to time.
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>>709626797
Member when they'd kill Kenny every episode? I member..
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>>709625536
member when Eric was not such a fucking douche? ... I member
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It's weird.
A lot of people think these last few seasons are the best that southpark has to offer, while other people think they're shit.
The whole change in format (basically a continuous show instead of separate episodes with separate stories) is kinda weird for me.
They basically made the show way more centered around parodying current events, which can be sucky for non-american watchers, since most the of shit they talk about is centered around american stuff.
You don't get those silly one off episodes about random shit where they just try to make it as funny as they can, instead you get these long seasons where they try to actually talk about a few topic in depth. The people who have always liked that about south park are the ones that think these past few seasons are the best, while the people who liked southpark for just being a funny show with weird shit happening in it, probably find these seasons boring.

I'm honestly not sure myself. I always liked southparks commentary on shit so I'm still enjoying the show, but these past seasons seem to be nothing but that. I kind of miss the episodes where stupid shit happens.
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>>709628592
it has literally always been a parody of current events, where the fuck have you been
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>>709625978
Seconded
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>>709628152
On that note, we saw kenny perma die and then he appears in some episode like a hidden character like the aliens were beforehand, what's up with that shit?
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>>709628592
It's almost as if we don't live in a fucking hivemind, how shocking.
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>>709628699
I never said that it wasn't about current events, but it used to be centered around single episodes.
Centering them around single episodes let them do some really weird shit, because after the episode ended, they could just forget about it.
Also they would usually have an episode talking about a certain topic, and then move on to the next one for the next episode.
Now the past few seasons have been centered around a few specific topics (PC, SJW, the elections, stuff like that) so they kind of have to keep to the narative. Now you turn on the new episode and you basically know what it's going to be about in general.
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Name one fucking TV show that held up after 10+ seasons nigger
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>>709629090
South Park
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>>709628592
i know right
i miss those totally random episodes where something random out of another universe or planet happens like that episode
"pinewood derby"

i think thats why im beggining to love rick and morty since it grabbed that essence of multi dimensional randomness and proving how unimportant and puny our planet is
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>>709629090
South Park.

Retard.
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>>709629090
simpsons
rekt
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>>709628997
yeah well the creativity is peaking is so theyre pulling off this boring linear narative
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>>709625536
It is what it always has been you are just getting older and more bored.
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they been going for a LONG time - a shift-up in the structure and focus was well needed IMO and theyve done a fantastic job that has let them explore more of this cutting-edge sociopolitical commentary and why the fuck not.

It hasnt got better or worse IMO it has changed and evolved into something new
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>>709629417
i dont know
seems to me that ironically that southpark itself is becoming pc hence why they showed pc principal and still keeping him in the story arc
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>>709629677
The entire season was shitting on pc culture you fuck
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>>709625536
It went shit when they made that anti George Zimmerman episode

Pretty obs they are now lib cucks controlled by Jews
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>>709629996
nah it felt more like it was pandering to it
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I like the newer seasons. Still funny as shit to me and love the ongoing story. Take some member berries and watch older episodes. I''m glad they went away from standalone episodes, its progression imo. The old episodes are still there for you to watch and enjoy
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>>709630249
the old styled episodes is what made southpark so great in the first place
now its just a lot of bullcrap pandering to current events in a rushed lazy format
i mean they could have fitted a lot of stuff these past 2 seasons into a three part episode and then move on
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>>709630109
>>709629996
>>709629677
God damn it.
The whole fucking thing with southpark (and the creators said it themselves) is that they basically just sit in the middle and laugh at both sides for their stupid bullshit.
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>>709625536
south park became one of the worst tv show when they pulled out kenny years ago, now it's litteraly the griffin with more social justice comentary
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>>709628410
I meeember
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>>709628592
We love South Park in particular for blood, shit, trash and at the same time "deep sense" which reflected in Kyle's speech at the end of episode. They removed it, they removed all features which made us love this show.
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>>709630431
kenny is still in wtf are you talking about
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oI_iXU_yY8
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>>709625536
Hey hey let's go! kenka suru
Taisetsu na mono o protect my balls
Boku ga warui so let's fighting
Let's fighting love
Let's fighting love
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Google "nosulus rift"
That is some genius shit right there
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>>709631414
Ohhh it's one of my favorite episodes! (OP)
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>>709631767
haha yea noticed the email from ubisoft
for a brief moment im thinking is this real
then realise southpark just trolled the fuck out of me
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>>709629163
Cheers to this
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It seems that Rick and Morty is gonna replace South Park cuz there crazy shit are still happening.
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>>709632260
not to mention how great they are at doing what southpark should be which is staying true to random situations each episode but still havng that background linear story move along like how Ricks current situation at the end of this season
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>>709632591
is"
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By the way, where 3 season of Rick&Morty supposed to come?
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>>709633422
when*
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getthelube.com
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>>709633422
this december according to most news articles
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>>709625536

Mat stone and trey parker are pretty ingenious.

By buying into this "remember when? and is south park is shit now?" you are literally not getting the underlying Memeberberry meme and are stumbling DIRECTLY into it the joke.
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>>709634018
or its just an ingenuis scapegoat to distract us from their shitty episodes thus far
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>>709625536
As someone who watched South Park since it first aired, this is my breakdown

>seasons 1-2
The show was weird, quirky, but very raw during these seasons. Matt and Trey didn't think the show was going to be as big as it was. Some truly great random humor, lots of fart jokes, etc.

>seasons 3-10
The best seasons, in my opinion. Classic South Park episodes live in this area.

>seasons 11-15
Kind of hit or miss. As the show was becoming more and more popular it began to weigh itself down. Still a lot of great episodes during this time but also a good handful of 2edgy5me stuff. You begin to notice that Matt and Trey are getting older and it's reflected in their writing. The episodes also begin to look like Matt and Trey aren't trying as much anymore towards the latter part of this bracket.

>seasons 16-18
Probably the worst period of South Park. Just stupid one-liner catch phrases that usually don't stick every episode, dumbass plots, the beginning of the multi-episode story arcs. This is when I really just stopped laughing hard during episodes

>season 19
Starting to recover a little bit. Matt and Trey are definitely older as is the core of South Park's fans. I love the attacks on political correctness, but the show begins to be less about four boys in a random CO mountain town and more about pop culture.

>season 20
Meh. The show speaks to me on different levels now but I haven't laughed out loud hard at any of the episodes this season. Just a sharp exhale through my nostrils here and there and maybe a chuckle.

Still a great show OVERALL though
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>>709634018
tbh, this doesn't make the arguments invalid though.
Trey and mat knowing that people used to like the show more before and making fun of it doesn't really change the fact that those people actually liked the show more before.
They're basically saying that it's just stupid nostalgia (and I do think it really is a pretty big part of it), but it's not just that. Some people genuinely like the new format less.
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>>709634414
this
pretty much on point
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>>709634414
yup, this is pretty accurate.
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>>709634018
Dude, I know that I am "memberberrying", but why Stone and Parker are trolling own fans? I mean they are doing shit, jokin' about memberberrys and laughing at fans remember old episodes.
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>>709630032
>liberal cuck
>calls Clinton turd sandwich
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>>709632591
Really cause I get people sayin Rick and morty is basically south park without any jokes not bad but not funny
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>>709634464
This is like criticizing a good steak cause they didn't give you a bathtub of a1 to bath in while you eat it
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>>709635258
its actually pretty funny and has a decent engaging story
prob some edgelords
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It's pretty cool to learn english watching South Park.
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>>709635258
it has literally grabbed the essence of south parks multi dimensial randomness (which i always loved about south park), and the nostalgia likeness of "back to the future
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>>709634835
Because theyre fucking trolls themselves. They are carrying on the tradition of trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls for teh lulz. He went back to the old times
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>>709625804
Issac hayes died man, he couldnt come back
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>>709625536
'Member when South Park was goood...'
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>>709635415
wut.
>a bathtub of a1
I have no idea what this is.
The criticism that some people liked the old format more is a normal criticism. It's not being spoiled or anything, it's literally just a preference.
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>>709635644
i think he left the show before that
because he was a scientologist and they ripped on that in one of the episodes
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>>709625978
Scot Tenenbaum Must Die
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>>709635705
correct. he just happened to die shortly afterwards.
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>>709635611
>multi dimensial randomness
Exactly, I love if fucked up shit happens SUDDENLY
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>>709628699
Like they parody kenny g molesting all those kids by having him molest mr garrison in south america as the kids make the world shit themselves with the brown note
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What do you think about similarity of South Park and Kevin Smith's films?
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>>709635942
loved clerks wish they did more
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>>709636008
he"
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>>709626124
Yeah pretty much diehards put the best between 5 and 10.
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>>709629090

MASH

Simpsons is still good at what it does

South Park is different now than it used to be but still as good.

Daily Show was good for years until Jon Stewart left.

I think Cheers made ten or more seasons and it was always good

Saturday Night Live goes through its ups and downs but still remains consistently funny.
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>>709635765
No idea, i just remember he died between 2 episodes. I assume he just died and they retconned him
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>>709636189
Mash never had a bad season

Id argue that fraiser is top tier at 12 seasons
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>>709636227
in the superadventure episodes he comes back and they use the soundboards from the previous episodes (since the actor left the show) and then he dies and gets turned into darth chef
which i`m surprised they havent brought back by now for the lols
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>>709631414

Easily in my top two or three episodes. Really captured an eight year olds imagination. Another good one was Lil Crimestoppers.
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>>709636374
They have him in the game, from soundboards, mixed with hitlers speeches
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>>709634414
Yep also agreeing. I can still go back to the early season and laugh til tears. But these new ones I don't really laugh at all. Hardly smile.
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>>709636426
I loved the one where ike fucks his teacher, and taming strange
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>>709625536

South Park has been going to shit since S01E01. This is why we care for it and love it. If you don't like it you can always change channels and watch Rick and Morty.
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>>709625536
They've initiated story arcs which allows a deeper connection and meaning; however, they're not always more humorous
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>>709636427
oh yeah now i remmeber still have to play it
but i like that they made the game in of itself like a long nostalgic remaster of southpark episodes
its like watching a whole new episode whilst playing it
i think the game is the best representation of all the good times in southpark and how shitty it is now
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>>709636581
>south park is shit
>Rick and morty though XD
You sound like a fucking faggot that just likes Rick and morty because it makes you feel smart
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>>709636713
i think he was trying to point out the opposite you idiot
read it again
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Op, I love South Park forever. The humour may be definitely confusing if you're Russian, even some American kids don't understand really what the joke is about.

But it's funny now as ever, I've loved every episode of South Park since it was out.

I say, it's GREAT now, but it was better then. Amazing early on and now it's just really good
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JOHN EDWARD
Everything I tell people is positive and gives them hope! How does that make me a douche?!

STAN
Because the big questions in life are tough: Why are we here? Where are we from? Where are we going? But if people believe in asshole douchey liars like you, we're never gonna find the real answer to those questions. You aren't just lying, you're slowing down the progress of all mankind, you douche!

BIGGEST DOUCHE IN THE UNIVERSE for BEST EPISODE EVAR OF ALL TIEM
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My favorite episodes were awesome-o (8-2 great comedy) and where my country gone (19-2 satirical masterpiece)
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>>709636713
I like rick and morty for the same reason i like fraiser

Its smart people trying to be smart but in the end they are just dumb shits, doing dumb shit

The big bang theory fucks this formula up by expecting me to laugh at several mentally handicapped aliens trying to mimic human behavior
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>>709636476
I know, right? It's like I'm just watching the show out of tradition or something, but the newer seasons just aren't really that funny. And this 20th season is just tedious and boring. It's like they've already overused everything.

>memberberries
funny the first few episodes, not so much now
>eric and heidi's relationship
Um okay.....how long do we have to keep this one up?
>mr. Garrison/Trump and the "ohhhhhh GEEEEEZ" bit
super stale by now
>Gerald's whole thing
It's like they're leaving cliff-hangers at the end of every episode but there's no real point to it. The show is starting to seem more like an action drama set in the South Park universe
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>>709625536
I'm not saying that the show is good or bad, but I imagine that a lot of South Park would be difficult for people from other cultures to "get". Even if you get the surface humor of mischievous and profane little scamps and their adventures, a lot of the issues they touch on and the humor they use is very specific to life in the U.S., and what's more is that a lot of it has been very topical, so that some of it is hard to "get" even for Americans when watching older episodes.
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>>709636801
Also the humour for South Park is like in line with /b/, I always think of how other people would laugh at it when I'm watching it. It's just the funniest shit ever. Probably my favourite show all time along w futuRama. The classic /b/ shows
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>>709636860
Kaley Cuoco has tits though
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>>709636820
episodes like these is what made south park
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>>709636860
Rick and Marty is fucking FAGGOT humour. If you like that shit you probably have a man bun and gauges and smoke American spirits you fucking faggot. I literally hate rick and faggot so much it makes me blood pressure rise
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>>709636879
Also it's become less about the four boys than ever. Kyle is the only one who seems to be trying to do anything remotely similar to his traditional role in the show. Stan is pretty much an ancillary character no different than Craig or Tweek or Token or even Towelie. It's all about Mr. Garrison, Gerald, and Eric/Heidi now. The fuck happened to this show?
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>>709636914

Not a yankee here. Work for USAians. They invite me to visit for a couple of weeks. I'm up to date on 100% of all american culture. I have South Park to thank for it.

If you're a foreigner interested in american culture, I think South Park is an essential watch.
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>>709636966
The classic /b/ show is cops, while under the influence of ketamine
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>>709636966
Watching a show because others think it's funny is the most autistic thing you can do
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>>709637082

I love Rick and Morty. Can you give me your BP now, please? :)
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>>709637082
calm down silly bollocks
or you`ll cut yourself with that edge
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>>709637082
OK mr. Poopybutthole
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>>709637082
So you have a chance to die every time
>Rick and morty
Gets mentioned? How can a show like
>Rick and morty
Do that to you?
>Rick and morty
Is just a program on adult swim.
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>>709637086
They've been using randy as a main character since season 11, it's not too much of a leap to Gerald
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>>709635683
He means a good cut of steak, like a choice filet mignon, but served with a pool of A1 steak sauce because plebs can't eat a good steak, even a really top quality steak without ordering it well done and drowning it in some shitty sauce.
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>>709637308

Funny how they, of the two, make the geologist the more retarded one instead of the lawyer. To be fair though it's easier seeing a lawyer as a troll than a scientist.
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>>709637097
Dutchfag here, can confirm.
If it isnt thrashed in SP, it's not worth knowing.
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>>709637382
Stan is based off of trey so randy may be based off his dad.
Also, it's perfect irony when the scientist is retarded and over dramatic
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>>709625797
Weak bait
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>>709637559

> Also, it's perfect irony when the scientist is retarded and over dramatic

True dat. True dat.
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>>709631111
>Kyle's speech at the end of episode

That is true. I miss those.
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>>709625536
Season 11 is secretly the best season.
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>>709637559
Tfw you find out Trey Parkers real first name is Randolph.
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>>709625536
>thinks SP is going to shit
I actually think they're on the up and up
They're really hitting this PC bullshit hard, and the rest of the season will always wrap it up. The member berries thing is just a tie in to a greater evil, like always
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>>709638043
i didn't understand the bit about PC dudes. Are they really guys like that in the US, douchebags who prides themselves on being PC warriors or whatever ?
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Lets not forget that these guys have been cranking out new episodes on a weekly basis for years, its probably a lot easier/less stressful to write a season-long story arc than a completely new plot every week
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>>709625726
>not Towelie
shit taste tbqh
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>>709636303
Agreed. Frasier is pretty fucking God tier in terms of consistently a good show.
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>>709638308
Hippie Digger, Korn's Groovy Pirate Ghost Mystery, Super Best Friends.

C'mon guys.
Also imagination land trilogy & anything with the coon.
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>>709638043
They better not ruin Cartman's character
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>>709638183
No sure if this is true but I heard that a guy said to Trey "Some of your jokes are really offensive to women, bro" and that's how PC principle came about
The whole PC frat house was essentially calling out guys who act PC to get chicks
PC stands for "pussy crushers"

Anyway my opinion on this is I love current south park, the old is great of course and still the best episodes. Whilst the new ones don't match up to those which is a sacrifice because of its continuous story imo I think it's some of the smartest writing they've produced
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>>709638183

There are, kind of. Where before the jock would give you wedgies and that kind of shit, now the SJW crowd will berate you using their protected status. I think that making the PCs all frat dudebros showing how the SJWs are just the same shit.
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>>709638540
those are all great but they're not Towelie
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>>709638540

Mysterion Rises certainly top 3 ep list.
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>>709638627
I hope Cartman is gonna come back, I mean, you saw last episode, there is a chance...
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>>709625804

Yes! Thank you! The whole reason that show worked so well was because yeah they were foul-mouthed but there was a certain naive innocence to them that was believable.

Now I think pretty much every single episode can be described as humor by role reversal. The kids act like adults, the adults act like kids.

That kind of tone works great when you want to stand on your soap box as much as Matt and Trey like to, but they've definitely abandoned the original character development that they spent many seasons establishing.
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Hot teacher in my high school fucked with a friend of mine for a while
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>>709638887
>cartman has always been evil
>cartman is a sjw
>sjw are evil
what seems to be the problem?
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Don't like the single storyline. I liked it better when it was stand alone episodes. They are timeless. The last two seasons will not age well.
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>>709628699
Yeah alien space probing cartmans ass man i remember when that aired for the first time such a parody of current events. Jeez you are a genius
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>>709638925

>definitely abandoned the original character development that they spent many seasons establishing.

They quit their old formula. They told us so. Spent two whole episodes telling us this. Go rewatch "You're getting old" and "Ass Burgers".

Personally I still love the show, but I know some fans won't love the changes. It's all fine, anon. Everything changes, everything dies.
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>>709638887
wut.
It's clear cartman is basically just pretending.
If he really "changed", then last episode he would have just told her that he was a cunt, but instead he instantly decided to just lie to her.
Still not sure how the whole mars/vagina thing comes into play here, but cartman is still cartman.
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>>709638925
That was always the premise. The adults are the crazy ones. They do stupid shit. The show can get away with murder because at the end Kyle gives a speech..."you see I've learned something" The show was original going to about animals and their owners. The premise being the same, the owners are crazy and the animals were not
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>>709639074

Oh please. As long as you member, they will still be funny. Member "Cartman gets an anal probe"? I member!
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>>709639357

Not *ALWAYS*. Nevar forget Chinpokomon.
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>>709639073
Also, cartman isn't and never was just "evil".
He's basically just a psychopath who does what he needs to get what he wants.
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>>709639073
>implying attempting Jewish genocide is evil
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHxwU7b9uA8
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>>709639585
yeah pretty much, I just generalized for the sake of greentext
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>>709629205
Simpsons is so shit get the fuck out
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>>709625536
It's more satire than it was before. It's full of American issues. It's still funny but very different.
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>South park nostalgia
>nostalgia
You realize this is the very thing south park is making fun of?
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Once in a while South Park comes up with something really funny. It's been getting more infrequent until last year which was the first season in a while with lots of good episodes with good social commentary
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>>709625866
Holy shit, what a terrible opinion. South Park has always been good with some shit episodes and mediocre seasons here and there.

Seasons 1-2 are meh. Mainly just background noise.
Seasons 3-4 are still mediocre but fairly better.
Season 5 is when the show really picked up.
Season 6-7 are great.
Season 8 is possibly the best season yet.
Seasons 8-10 were the golden age
Season 11 is when it slightly started going downhill with some shit episodes but also some memorable ones
Season 12 is shit
Season 13 is shit but had a few classic episodes (The Coon, Fishsticks, Butters Bottom Bitch)
Season 14 is mediocre. Has some shitty episodes but has some great ones (The Coon follow-up episodes, Creme Fraiche, Jersey Thing, Medicinal Fried Chicken)
Season 15 is shit
Season 16 is pretty solid. It started to get better around here.
Season 17 is shit and a disappointment from a previous decent season.
Season 18 is mediocre but has a couple of standouts (Grounded Vindaloop, The Cissy)
Season 19 and current season are the best ones in years.

Season 15 is probably the worst.
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>>709639839

Matt and Trey know. They love trolling their audience as much as anyone else.
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>>709625726
Medicinal fried chicken is the best imo
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>>709625536
Their attempt to make the individual seasons have more continuity between episodes was when this show really took a dive off the cliff. Problem is, they can't write a well-paced plot line to save their lives. The older three-parters are honestly some of my favorites, but this whole idea of making an entire season one continuous story is just awful. The over-arching plot always seems to be the focus, with the type of one-off humor and scenes that made the show great feeling shoehorned in.
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>>709640156
>Season 11 is when it slightly started going downhill with some shit episodes but also some memorable ones
Disagree. I think seasons 8-11 are the golden age. Season 11 is great.
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>>709640362

Member when Kenny died horribly every episode? I member!
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>>709640156
>a few classic episodes but has some great ones...
The Coon arc was fucking retarded and really signaled the first rapid deterioration of the quality in writing and the fact that they started getting lazy with the show. You don't know shit.

Also, season 16 is fucking terrible.
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>>709625536
I still love south park. I watch it everyday. I like the new format, it's different and new and that's not a bad thing.
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I still think iys good not great like it once was though
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>>709629205
the simpsons only has 4 good seasons the rest is just recylced jokes
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Still follow South Park but I don't dig it as much.
Aqua teen hunger force may just be the best show ever in my opinion. I went to the adult swim drive in when it stopped Seattle. All the new shit is pure garbage except for Eric Andre. Rick and moranius is alright don't really understand the hype completely. The show has attracted a lot of new people to the network who are totally clueless to genius of the older shows. Space ghost, sealab, brak, bird man, frisky dingo, Xavier, 12oz mouse. I think they are probably trying phase out squidbillies too it's the last of old adult swim.
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>>709640156

Still though. Reverse Cowgirl was hilarious.
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Nigger
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What did you kikes expect from two people who drop acid constantly and crossdress in public?
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>>709625536
stopped watching south park a longass time ago. kinda wish i was still intersted
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