What are your "happy pills" /b Do they work for you?
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What are your "happy pills" /b
Do they work for you? Is your life better with them?
Effexor. Works great, I haven't had the urge to rape for days.
>>709529322
Klonopin, can't remember anything anymore so that's nice.
>>709529322
not really. A little.
I always have a couple of these on me for a rainy day
dulexetine
Lithium
buspar
zyprexa
seroquel
>do they work
Sometimes
>better
i have no clue
Gabapentin 1200mg 3x daily. Best help I've found so far from a med that docs will prescribe me but I feel like the 3600mg is pooping out. Physically addicted to it too. It helps my anxiety some and lifts my mood a tad. I just started taking Lexapro again since my depression is getting worse with the season change and so far it seems to only make me fart a lot. I want to try an SSRI with Wellbutrin since I think Wellbutrin had a decent effect when I was taking.
>>709529551
I hate you because I'm jealous that you can get benzos and I can't.
>>709530542
these ones make me forget and get angry and belligerent
these ones make me feel tranquil and at peace with the world
>>709530005
Are you me?
>gabapentin for fibromyaglia
>lexapro for seasonal depression
The side effects of the gabapentin are...fun(?).
Munchies, and the fact that I legit can last like 9 hours in bed now if I want to. Shit hurts.
>>709529322
Lexapro masterrace checking in
these ones make me feel like everything is okay and happy and like i should take some more
I don't have any, because piece of shit normie chads and thugs get all the 'benzos" and "xannys" like durrrr pop dem pills den pop dat pussy, while someone like me is considered inferior and excluded from the gene pool, dating, ignored by women with no drugs to numb the pain
Hellbutrin made my ears ring permanently, whole body would twitch/twist right as I was falling asleep. Lost some weight. No fun to go off of it tho. Extreme vertigo, apathy, sense of losing identity, weird shit. Never gonna do it again. Do not recommend. Stay with limp dick ssri and boner pills.
>>709530758
Hopefully you overdose and die, or better yet go braindead and your repulsive mother has to change your diapers again for the rest of her life
>>709529322
Started taking Zoloft a month ago, literally was living with constant brain fog, chronic stress, general anxiety disorder, and major depression for 9 years, didn't even know what feeling 'normal' was, I'm getting better and it definitely saved my life
>>709530930
why are you so mean?
>>709530869
I had the same reaction when I was 11, kind of did the opposite affect of what I needed it to, definitely didn't help my situation at all
>>709530932
Can you tell more about it? Because i will probably get on zoloft.
I've heard from few people who take them that Zoloft has good efect on them
>>709529322
They help my bipolar and keep me from going into manics
>>709530685
I'm not fond of the sexual side effects of Lexapro but Gabapenitn is tolerable for me. I like getting high on Gabapentin. With little to no tolerance it's definitely a noticeable buzz, but I try not to make myself run out of it early because that's no fun. Even with a tolerance taking 7200mg in a day helps me numb out if I need to.
>>709530542
"CLOWN" PILLS!
thats what we used to refer to them as.
and just to let you all know, these are some of the most abused and dangerous drugs prescribed.
benzos dont metabolize like others drugs do. they are fat soluble and stay in you system longer, thus your liver and kidneys have to work harder. thats how this "long acting" drug works. and it builds up in your system over time from repeated use .
i have had over 30 different people die from the long term use of this class of drug.
heres a good rule to follow:
if it grows in the ground, its good.
if its made in a lab, its bad.
be careful.
you may not die from them right away, but you will loose time and status and then you will have nothing but your addiction. then they will kill you.
These mental disorders are caused by heavy metal poisoning. Air Force veteran here. Those are not contrails. Ask any aviation veteran or pilot. My hat is not tin foil. It's actually a Faraday cage to protect me from radio waves and spooks.
>>709531253
Gotta die of something.
10 mg ativan 3x daily and 15 mg cipralex 1x daily. I also have 90 hits of zopoclone for when I can't sleep.
I'm bipolar. Whatever the docs gave me aren't working. I smoke weed instead. It triggers my manic side, which of course isn't too good but it beats being depressed and empty inside.
>>709529322
Vensir XL. Yes, but I forgot to take it yesterday, overslept and feel like punching a hole through a wall.
>>709529322
Barbiturates!! but not getting them anymore..
Xanax and klonipin*
Trazadone too
>>709531354
let it be old age or something you can prevent. why kill yourself with this poison??
>>709530930
i already have technically overdosed countless times plus one "official" time when i was put in the ICU. i'm pretty stronk, both my mind and body to have survived what i've put myself through with drugs. why are you mad?
>>709531422
have you tried abilify?
Whisky is the best medicine, anons.
Never lets me down.
>>709531253
Ricinus communus grows in ground. Just sayin
this or E
>>709531422
Ask for lithium carbonate, instead of whatever ineffectual crap they're sponsored to give you.
>>709530685
Fibromyalgia is a mental illness. Quit being a faggot.
>>709531549
You stronk like Gronk. You on a whole nuffa level of strong. Carry on.
>>709531454
And magic mushrooms at low doses works about like my xanax if not better cause the are earthly
>>709531610
Agreed. But don't mix it with any other shit from this thread or you will be a potato.
>>709531558
I have and hated them to death.
They are supposed to be used with other drugs right? Guess i wasn't sick enough to get something else
>>709531194
Sure
After taking them I'm able to identify my anxious thoughts and stop thinking about them, before I would be so fixated on negative thoughts like 'did I do this right'.
My dick still works, so I don't know anything about that
I think all in all it just lifted me out of my brain fog.
paroxetine
used to make feel good but i've been thinking about suicide a lot lately. guess they stopped working
>>709531610
Whiskey is made in America, that is Scotch
>>709531253
how did these 30 people die? overdose mixing benzos with other things? cold turkey withdraw? they didn't have kidney or liver failure from using just benzos.
>if it grows from the ground its good
>if its made in a lab it's bad
no, that's retarded. poppies grow from the ground.
>>709531367
>10 mg ativan 3x daily
is that a typo?
>>709532028
Time to switch flavors for a while. Just think. If u suicides, who would help bamp? I ain't gonna be around forever ya know.
>>709531610
but alcohol is literally poison
i remember 714's!!!
they were the fucking best!
like drinking a bottle of booze without the sick toxic feeling, just euphoric and buzzing lips and finger tips.
the i tried 10mg blue Valiums, it was close but put me to sleep.
all these drugs were created to be "safer" then the class of drug they replaced. Barbiturates.
Barbiturates are almost identical when metabolized to the brains recognition of alcohol, but they act differently on the CNS. regardless of your mental tolerance, you will always have the same physical tolerance based on weight and age. if you took even a .10th of a mg too much, OD.
so bezos were crated in the 1950's to be safer. they were prescribed for everything and dispensed like candy. an entire family of drugs have been created since and continue to over prescribed and make billions for the drug companys.
>>709532025
Have you tried any other antidep. before?
I was on Asentra which didn't have much effect on me
>>709532226
It's all poison, brother. Da air is even poison now. We need da aliens to come back and technology us again.
Xanax, scripted 2mgs a day, usually only take 1mg. Just need them to get to sleep and to wake up. Rest of the day I'm kk with green. I find no real recreational value to them, they make me too flattened out, bored, cannot take interest in anything etc. Smoking weed counters that so I smoke more than I dose the xanies.
Head injury fag.
Nortryptyline
gabapentin
duloxentine
>>709532067
I wonder they treat mold. Without a lab you wouldn't have penicillin and you'd have a black mold infestation.
It was for a really really long time codeine.
Now it's more weed
5htp can get from Wal-Mart. It helps especially if u already on some other stuff. Take before bedtime. Have sexytime dreams...or nightmares.
>>709532420
>2mgs
What's it like to still get boners?
60 mg Prozac, 350 Wellbutrin, and a little colonopin if my panic attacks get really bad. I've notice that I'm not really happy, but I'm not as sad all the time. My dr is honest and says medication is only 50/50 and that my issues are therapy related.
Has anyone ever tried Luvox or Prozac?
>>709532067
fair question,
they were polydrug abusers. but the foundation was always benzos. they are single script not triplicate and way easier to obtain. booze and coke were in their mix as well. they all sped the process up.
but they didnt od, most had strokes and advanced heart disease, with massive fat deposits in their arteries and hart. and in the lungs too causing strokes and embolisms.
crazy and unique to a group under 40
>>709532724
It's alright, dick still works, with my current situation the only sex I get is with an ex. Can't drive, no public transit here, sorta at the mercy of my loss of function which was mostly visual and sleep pattern.
Everything else works great still though. Erections every morning.
You don't wanna go on any "brain fog" candy. Because at some point later, you will have to go straight sober for a period of time. During that sober time, you will realize that a number of months/years have passed. And you don't really know what da fuck happened for the last couple years. It's like waking up from a long dream. And it's not as cool as you think it might be. It will make you more depressed. And back on some drugs we go. This merry go round is making me dizzy.
>>709530005
How does lexapro work for you? I know people who take it for stress and anxiety and they say it works well. Only thing is they seem kind of muted in their activity and edgy all the time.
I might start looking into antidepressants again it because since I was 17 I keep going through waves of depression where I'll go into a fugue for a month or so and distance myself from everything. Pragmaticism hasn't worked and now that I'm 21 imme nervous I might slip into a habit with alcohol and do something reckless.
>>709532857
That's called apathy. You don't want that feeling. You will hurt your loved ones. You need emotions. Probably u need a tad more pill candy....or less masturbation
nigga i got all dem happy pills on deck 6149722282
>>709531732
It is indeed. As is depression.
And I'm wrong for taking steps to make my life more enjoyable?
>>709529322
I have social anxiety, major depressive disorder and obsessive compulsive disorder and bipolar 2.
I tried Zoloft : worked VERY slow for my social anxiety, made me neutral and wouldn't give a fuck, after a while it stopped working, made my dick NUMB. I was on 200mg/day
Paroxetine(Paxil/Xeroxat). It helped very little to my social anxiety, it made me more depressed and I would cry a lot.
Duloxetine : it made me have panic attacks and did nothing for my anxiety, it literally gave me panic attacks
Then I was on fluvoxamine, depakene, risperidone and clonazepam. I was more anxious, more depressed, I felt like I'm not experiencing reality anymore and I attempted suicide on them....
Doc wont prescribe clonazepam alone or a benzo alone for my anxiety so im off of meds and disturbed.
>>709531558
>>709531730
I'm currently on Lamotrigin. I've previously tried different antidepressives, mainly ssri's. I've been offered lithium but I declined because I was tired of trying new medications.
Are you two bipolar? What are your experiences with drugs, prescribed or not?
Has anyone tried St. John's Wort? Does it work?
>>709531354
Same loser logic that idiot cigarette smokers use.
Is whole /b on pills?
>>709529322
I went through a period where I tried lots of happy pills. Xanax, Klonopin, Buspar, Zoloft etc.
They didn't really help at all. The only thing that made me happy and pulled me out of my dark place was to stay really active and force myself to be social.
Now I have a decent job, made a bunch of friends even though I thought I was a loser, and ended up getting a girlfriend out of the whole thing.
When I was on the drugs, I lived an even more sedentary lifestyle than before I took them. This was the root of my depression in the first place, so the pills only made me complacent with my unhappiness.
Fuck pills.
>>709533118
I can't really say. I've never had my mind straight enough and not been doing other drugs while on an SSRI for a long enough period. I'm hoping I can get some help out of it this time. I think Wellbutrin did help me, but they took me off of it when I had a seizure in the spring.
>>709533397
How u sleeping?
Hey guys.
If you're on anti psychotic meds or even stuff like anti depressants and you're having bad side effects, there's something you can do about that.
There's a genetic test you can ask to have done where they determine which medication will give you the least side effects. I don't know what the name of the test is, but just mention what i've said here and they'll know what it is.
I had horrible side effects on my medication. After I took this test, they found the medication that worked best for me. No side effects at all.
>>709533583
We are all on drugs.
>>709533583
I'm assuming that whole /b/ has at least experimented with pills.
I certainly have, but not on them anymore
>>709533606
My sleeping is fine
We're all addicted to oxygen...just try going 2 minutes without it.
>>709533731
Isn't weed and things like meditation better alternative?
>>709530718
I'll second this. Stops me from being a total grumpy dick all time. Now I get to be a dick when appropriate. Zero side effects after 6 weeks.
>>709530542
This
>>709533602
Hellbutrin made me get headaches from loud noises/commotion like stores. Flashing lights even driving at night would hurt too. Even little kids running around playing or dogs playing at the park would just irritate the shit out of me. Hellbutrin no bueno
>>709531307
Cool still dosnt help the fact. But my dad lived in a white trash suburb with paint dumps and superfund sites near them so that might explain my broken brain.
>>709533262
I don't really have loved ones to hurt. I'm not close to my family, and I only text two people. At least I've went from mind numbing depression and anger to at least that, but I still don't function properly, still consider suicide, and never socialize. Also I haven't had any desire for sex since early this year. I might touch my dick once a week, but even then I usually don't finish.
So the best way to cope with you problems in head are pills?
Opana 10mgs iv
>>709533850
no, self medicating with weed for x mental illness is not a good alternative to seeing a doctor and taking appropriate meds you FUCK
>>709533118
Lexapro has made me less of a hot head and has lessened my maladaptive anxiety by at least 95%. I am on 10mg. First 3 weeks the side effects are kinda hard but after you adapt it is very easy to tolerate.
>>709533431
I use it. Been using it for more than a year now. 1x300mg every morning. Doesn't force you to be happy, just makes it so that negative experiences 'slide off' of you easier. Makes you more adaptive. It's great stuff, the only thing that I've tried that really works for me.
>>709533850
It's really hard to give advice like that. Some people have a legitimate issue with their brains and need pills to function.
The vast majority that take these pills tho, yes this is a much better alternative.
>>709532616
I already lucid dream almost every night. Will this make me ascend to the next dimension?
>>709533952
Maybe if u went off grid in the mountains or even became a monk, u brain would heal itself. You would feel better, breathe better, sleep better..And learn awesome kung fu moves. Probably not a whole lot of privacy for sausage stroking tho.
>>709533850
Weed is great, as long as you are in a place where that is legal. If you are feeling depressed all the time, see a doctor or a shrink first tho.
Still looking for them.
Lexapro just made me yawn
Zoloft made me cry and flipped my libido switch off.
Buspar did nothing
Bupropion made my anxiety and blood pressure skyrocket
Prozac made me a nervous nelly
Remeron made me fat and sleepy.
I hear Ketamine really helps but the docs won't give me that.
>>709534308
Maybe you can't be fixed by taking pills.
>>709529322
Kind of. I'm still unhappy and unmotivated to get a job but i'm so fucking happy about the changes i've got after just a few months.
>>709533916
i can't handle those. instant blackout, and the most belligerent shit i've ever done both times i got a bottle of 90. decided to take an entire bottle of vicodin, tramadol, and cough syrup after i swallowed the last handful of them the first time and ended up in the icu then psych ward. then right back to the psych ward at the end of the second bottle. i found one pill stashed in my wireless mouse and took it. within an hour i was slurring my speech and the rest of the day i blacked out. i don't know if the dosing is inconsistent or what.
>>709534203
If u go to level 2, can u check up on my doggo? He was stolen by the evil cancer. If u see the evil cancer, kick him in the taint for me. Precciate ya.
>>709534131
Can you post a pic of what you take? I tried the pills from my local store but they didn't work really well, they even gave me bad diarrhea ocasionally
>>709533367
No you're not wrong.
I have fibro too. I didn't think men could get it.
Strangest person to ask me if I had it was a nurse doing a allergy test. She said my skin was reacting like I had when she did the needle poking bit. This was before I was officially Dx'd and had no clue WTF was going on with me.
Enjoy the days that you can anon.
Britfag user of zoloft here, just called Sertraline here, 100mg daily, I suffer from ocd, general anxiety and bi-polar disorder. The recent split with my ex put me in a really bad place, had terrible panic attacks and would obsess over the smallest of problems.
My negative thoughts would spiral down, gathering even more stupid thoughts to add on the way until I didn't know where I was anymore.
I find with Sertraline, as soon as any stupid thoughts enter my head, I kinda automatically push them away and 'forget' about them.
It's like a soothing apathy with short term amnesia, can anyone relate?
>>709529322
Didn't Mike Tyson have to take these so he quote on quote "I'm on Zoloft so I don't kill you mutha fuka's"
>>709533850
No. Meditation won't work if you have a legitimate physical problem in your brain. For me, we just makes me so anxious sleepy and my mind racey that I need to go to sleep whenever I smoke it. And meditation, I always go into hypnogogic hallucinations and hear voices. These pills just alter your brain chemistry to proper balance that allows you to live with lighter burdens. It's like taking meds for arthritis or diabetes. It simply makes your body work so you don't die.
>>709534718
nice "quoting" there
>>709534059
Weed helps against a lot of things. If you know your strains you can use it as sleeping aid (instead of addictive benzos), calming ((instead of addictive benzos), Epelipsy, joint pain and so on.
Though I agree that one should give the doctor a shot before trying alternatives.
>>709533963
My friend. You do have loved ones. You gotta climb ouuta the funk. Poke your head around and find something you haven't tried before. You must stay busy. Yes man. Yes man YES. This is your new motto for today. You are now free to go.
Have you guys ever tried to cope with your problems like a grown up man? Like stand up and take control over your mind.
I bet it's hard. I know your mind can be your biggest enemy.
But.. have you ever tried? Have you ever hit the line (suicide line) where you said "enough is enough. I dont need pills"? Do you realize how muuuuuuuuch you would grow as a person if you overcome your problems without pills? Do you realize how mentally strong and stable person you would become?
When you will be old and few days from death, do you think you won't regret you didn't try?
Depression and other mental dissorders are real as fuck. But, are you sure you can't own your own fucking mind?
This and just good old seroquel
>>709534398
You might be right, but my mom and dad both take antidepressants (Oleptro and Lexapro, respectively) and they are high on life right now.
>>709534963
Most should listen to this guy. Pills are just a mask for the problems that big pharm uses to make billions off all you chumps.
If you truly want to be happy, depression free etc. You will never achieve it without facing your problems head on.
>>709534447
I took Vicodin and smoked after going on an Addy bender and sat in my chair for 2 hours rubbing my my body because it felt so good. Though in the morning I felt like I was born again into paradise. Opiates are too good. Fuck that shit.
>>709534688
I just thought that having days where you wanted to peel your skin off was normal. Ah well.
>>709529322
I'm currently taking
Lithium
Abilify
Wellbutrin
And propranolol
The lithium has changed my life by stopping the manic episodes I get from bipolar disorder, and levelling my mood in general. Abilify helps with visual hallucinations and irritability. Wellbutrin gives me enough energy to fight depressive episodes and kills my appetite and helped me to stop smoking. The propranolol stops the tremor I have developed as a side effect from lithium, and also reduces anxiety and blood pressure.
I would be a fucking mess without these pills and I thank fuck every day that I have access to them
>>709534963
This
>>709534963
Fuck off a hole. I did that for years then I found for 5 bucks a month I can feel normal. Not happy pills but just what every other jerk off feels like pills. I am an addict and became such because of seeking to feel in place and normal. I suffered for years needlessly because of that attitude. If you need the pills then no amount of work I'd going to fix shitty brain chemistry be it from years of abuse or shitty genes. 3 years sober and loving it because if what you consider a crutch. Fuck off.
>>709535269
If I don't take my pills I'll end up crying in the corner over things that don't exist!
If I could say "HAH! Fuck you all, you aren't real" I wouldn't need pills in the first place
>>709534963
You think it's that fucking easy, huh? You think it's as simple as flipping a switch?
Imagine how frustrated you would be if you went to your car, turned the keys, and nothing happened. That's what it's like every day for depression. I eat my favorite food, I feel nothing. I watch something I know I ought to like, I feel nothing. All my friends and family are just annoying to me.
>>709534963
i know you think it sounds mature and strong but to me this attitude is really immature because you are unwilling to accept that sometimes you do need (medical) help.
Zoloft fucked me up, I want those 2 years of my life back.
Adderall, helps a ton but I wish I didn't have to take it, was great at first but once it gets its claws in you it kinda sucks.
>>709530439
Nigga every GP gives out xanax like candy
>>709535639
i know this feel
Mine are OP's Pic Generic, but they honestly make the world seem less colorful. I do genuinely feel happier on them, but the world loses a bit of its luster to me. I dunno, I just feel like being depressed is what I'm supposed to be. Maybe happiness is a limited resource, and that's why I'm sad all the time.
I used to take 40mg of Prozac
Didn't work.
>>709534963
"If I pretend my body isn't broken I will be fine!"
Fuck off. The brain is an organ like every other part of the body.
>>709534402
You're definitely mentally ill, faggot
>>709529322
mah happy pills ;) dutch made
>>709535504
Congrats on the clean time brotha
>>709535900
enjoy your pma
>>709534742
Show me a legit study that shows chemical imbalances in an infant brain. Chemical imbalances aren't really proven to be born with, yeah you might develop it.
The main thing i care about though is you spreading misinformation. PROPER meditation and breathing techniques are very valid, please don't turn more people to pills with your bullshitting.
>>709535655
idk about that. not to me at least. doesn't help being a young male i think.
>>709535900
>>709535269
My problem isn't the problems themselves, but the worst case scenario repercussions that fill my head. I get a C on a single test and I worry that my grade will be forever fucked, and I will never get my degree. Fuck off with that "Its all about mindpower" bullshit, because a more powerful mind with a negative outlook on life will leave you fucked.
I just ordered an 8th of golden teachers.
Dude says 8th is enough for two people if you're not a regular user.
I'm excited and nervous.
I will eat them later. Not sure if I've gt before, have you had golden teachers before?
I tried liberty caps, and they were amazing
>>709535900
boy i love nuerotoxic drugs
>>709536017
lol... just lol
>>709534718
>quote on quote
>>709536048
I have had bipolar disorder for almost my entire life. The reason for my mood swings is a lithium deficiency. This deficiency is measurable in my blood. When I take a controlled dosage of lithium in pill form, it brings the level of lithium back into the therapeutic range, and my manic episodes completely stop.
How can you tell me that meditation is a valid way of controlling an observable chemical deficiency
>>709535639
It's not easy that's the point. The easy thing is to pop a pill. But does it fix it? No, it just covers it.
Lexapro. kinda does
>>709529322
lexapro daily
vyvanse during the school week
the amphetamines are detrimental to my overall health but i'm more or less addicted to them at this point so i'm not stopping until i finish college.
the lexapro improves my quality of life. i've been on it or zoloft for the last five years. maybe three times now i've tapered off for a summer just to see what my baseline is like, and i always come back to SSRI's. i just enjoy my existence a lot more when i'm on SSRI's.
its like, normally i get really high peaks when good things happen and really low valleys when bad shit happens. but bad shit happens more often than not so the peaks aren't worth it. on lexapro however, the peaks and valleys are less intense. i stay midline most of the time. i get happy when good shit happens, and i get sad when bad shit happens, but most of the time i'm just treading water, metaphorically.
my emotions are definitely dulled. i haven't cried in a long time. i can't remember the last time i cried. i prefer this existence to the alternative, however.
>>709535655
Same with Addy and abilify. Literally went up to a psychiatrist and said 'I think I have bipolar. Sometimes I'm sad sometimes I'm mad!" And within an hour I had a scrip for it. Fuck that shit. My faith was lost in the medical industry after I got prescribed pills with side effects of suicide during the first visit. I'm on Addy now because in middle school a doctor said I had ADHD and I get scrips for life pretty much.
I have worse problems than not remembering to check my email but the speed keeps me going whether I like it or not.
I just wish doctors were more astute with prescriptions. These are drugs that are extremely powerful and can do real harm. Peoples well being is not something to fuck around with and people don't seem to get that in America.
>>709529726
Celecoxib is an NSAID you fucking retard.
its got a neat skeletal formula though
>>709535504
>>709535527
>>709535639
>>709535643
I believe that deep in yourself all of you have power(the power that keeps you from killing yourself) to deal with your problems without pills. The problem is you don't believe you have it.
All of you replied with your mind-ego, which demands those pills for YOU.
If there wouldn't be any pills for mental problems, you would have two choices, to kill youself or to deal with your mind.
So, have you ever asked that or look inside you if you have that will power?
>>709536062
So am I. I just said I fly a lot and airplanes make me really anxious, which wasn't a lie or anything but they just forked it over after I said that hardly any questions asked.
>>709535900
Fuck I miss rolling
been taking effexor for about 3 weeks, no effect
mom is on zoloft for life and it clearly isn't helping her as she drinks her days away
>>709536261
How can you tell me its not? Oxygen in the body is a chemical reaction, with proven studies of altering brain chemicals.
I admit i was more talking about depression and anxiety. But you just shitting on mediation is plan wrong and potentially damaging to people reading.
>>709536569
But bruh. There are plenty of people who just suffer with mental illness and are sad or upset tgeir whole lives, even if they never necessarily consider suicide.
So, if pills can help them, why not?
>>709529322
40mg of hydrocodone at a time, spaced out and taken at a higher ratio with the apap to prevent liver failure
>>709536681
zoloft isn't going to treat your mom's alcoholism.
medfag here, this thread is very interesting.
One thing ya'll should realize:
Pharmacology(pill science) != Psychology.
Some conditions are treated through psychological medicine, some conditions are treated through pharmacological medicine.
However, I have noticed that many people will go the pharmacological route without first pursuing the psychological. Many will never even question that route at all.
This, this... is a very bad thing. It is why so many of you have had bad experiences with medication.
Also, depression, and anxiety are the kind of "illnesses" that are peppered on top of other illnesses. They're very "root".
Actually, I've noticed that most people's depression exists because of a very unhealthy cognitive structure. Even if they do have other illnesses that require medication, the depression itself cannot be.
Cognitive restructuring is key. Its about teaching you to identify and halt bad thoughts. It's the "taking control of your mind" that some of these anons are talking about.
>>709535377
I've had shingles since I was a child. I learned to block out the pain and itching and thought that was normal for people.
Now that I look back I think I've had fibro for about 30 years. Obviously it's worse now then when I was in my 20's.
Strange thing the brain is and what it can do to/for you.
>>709532150
No. It's the only thing that controls my tremors. I've never had a seizure, no neurological issues, not early stage parkinsons. I can't hold a cup of coffee coffee without it. Apparently it's anxiety, which is why I always feel like I have a pill in my throat, but but nothing physically there.
Works for me because I'm hyperactive
>>709536133
Dude, just reread what you wrote and can you honestly tell yourself that it isn't in you mind?
You just wrote a bunch on cop outs. Everyone can do it.
>>709529322
Same, with 100 mg. It worked the first month but now I get more tired than without it. And just as depressed as before.
If you guys would get 1 billion dollars, you would DIE of happines.
Your dissorders would disapear in a second. And only because outer stimulation.
Any reccomendation on drugs you can buy without percription? i live in europe and have only used illegal ones
>>709536569
this is extremely immature. to think that you know better than anybody here. to think that you can just overcome this shit because it happens to be a mental issue. it just shows that you have to learn a lot more and need to understand that the world isn't made for you with things you can always overcome. it's a world out of pure chance that has lots of chance events that can make life impossible without external help.
>>709536569
I kind of agree with you that a lot of people just take the pills as "the solution". But I do think that they can really help when used as a tool for someone who is trying to solve the actual underlying issues rather than just saying "this will fix it".
>lexapro
Helps with anxiety
>>709536683
I'm not talking about brain chemicals. Lithium affects your entire body's composition. You cannot meditate your way out of bipolar disorder. You can attempt to manage the symptoms with meditation, yes, but the underlying cause cannot be addressed without medication. You are essentially telling people suffering from cluster headaches that meditation will cure their pain. You can manage the symptoms, but to get real relief you need meds.
Meditation has uses for mild depression and does wonders for all kinds of anxiety. I won't deny that. But you're lumping together all mental illnesses and proposing that you've found a solution to all of them? That's some snake oil bullshit.
>>709536205
>>709536875
true, talking to my therapist helps a lot. but i've accepted that i need to be on meds. i have memories from as young as 8 years old of feels that something is deeply wrong. i really feel like being medicated appropriately is the only chance i have to not end up killing myself with drugs.
>>709537020
It made me completely apathetic towards everything. Spent 2 years after highschool in the basement playing league from 5pm-7am every single day.
I really can't vouch for zoloft.
Also do you get those weird head pulses when you miss a dose? Like you feel like you were suspended in air for a split second.
>>709530005
>>709532857
>>709535429
i used to take wellbutrin for a couple of years and it worked fine, but i tapered myself off about six months ago.
its an anticholinergic, which puts you at risk for dementia.
the way it works as an anti-smoking medicine is to block the nicotinic acetylcholine receptor. nicotine can't hit it, so cigarettes don't work. so you quit smoking.
however, your body also uses this receptor for a lot of fucking things. like learning, pattern recognition, reasoning, etc. completely blocking it off can potentially have long term consequences.
from wikipedia:
>"wellbutrin" page
wellbutrin "...is also a nicotinic antagonist."
>"nicotinic antagonist" page
A nicotinic antagonist is a type of anticholinergic drug that inhibits the action of acetylcholine"
>"anticholinergic" page
"Long term use increases the risk of both mental and physical decline."
"Possible effects of anticholinergics include:
Dementia"
i would rather just not take wellbutrin. in the same way, i avoid taking benadryl, dramamine, DXM, etc.
>>709534718
>quote on quote
>>709537160
You assumed everyone in the thread has bi polar like you. Of course you go on medication for that. I didn't say it was be all end all.
Just don't discredit legit natural things cause its not for you, ESPECIALLY when you didn't declare what you have in the original post.
>>709531253
So opiates are good but lsd is bad bad bad???
>>709537064
i don't recommend trying to self medicate with drugs you can buy without precipitation
>>709530852
The fuck are you on about
>>709536875
Medfag as well, can confirm. I feel it should be mandatory for a newly evaluated and pharm treated pt. to attend concurrent cognitive therapy. The rates of success skyrocket when they do. Also, using psychoactive chemicals whether it's weed, booze, or other meds to self-medicate symptoms is a terrible idea.
>>709537064
Buy some shit called benzedrex (brand name), put it in a lemon juice and water mix, steep for 45 minutes then chug. Enough amphetamines to fuck you all day
>>709531454
Trazadone turned me into a fucking zombie I was miserable but okay with being miserable if that makes sense. You could sit there doused in gasoline on fire and your thought process would be This sucks but its okay I guess.
>>709537327
man i'd like to have a therapist.
how'd you find yours? i want to undergo cognitive behavioral therapy. i feel like i lack coping skills.
i don't know what to look for in a therapist though, whether they be a psychologist or a psychiatrist or what. should they be a doctor?
>>709537327
you may need to be, it really depends on your condition.
However, if the root of your problem is a psychological one, then you should use meds to the end of healing your mind, with the goal of eventually *hopefully* not needing them anymore.
I went through a similar thing. I used to think about suicide... daily. I was diagnosed with major depressive disorder at 14. I had to take antidepressants for years.
but... I don't have major depressive disorder anymore, and I don't have to take zoloft anymore. However, I still take my adhd medication, and I always will. Because some conditions are healed with pills, and some are not.
>>709536875
>many people will go the pharmacological route without first pursuing the psychological.
It's way the system is set up here in the US.
You go to your PCP because you don't feel well and BANG that fuckers pushing the latest brain candy the pharm rep convinced him was the best cure all.
You know how long it takes to get an appointment to see a Shrink? I've seen out to 3 months and that's IF your insurance covers it.
Besides we look down on those people anyway. Going to the Shrink means you're too crazy.
>>709537020
takes a while for your brain to adapt to them. i think it takes six months for serotonin neurons to normalize. that's specifically in regard to them returning to normal functioning after taking MDMA, but its the same system that SSRI's work on.
>>709537349
the head pulses are 'brain zaps'. they also happen when you taper off of an SSRI. its just a consequence of fucking with your brain chemistry. its not painful, but like if you look around too fast its like someone shocked you.
>>709536910
Anyone who had chickenpox has had shingles since then. It's a dormant virus. What the hell are you saying? You've had a chronic outbreak since then?
>>709537426
opiates are bomb as hell if you take enough. It's a delicate balance though because too few and you won't be buzzed and too many will be vomited out and cause scarring of the liver
Where do you guys get these blister pack pill box things, they look like consumer merchandise. I've always gotten bottles full of pills from pharmacies.
>>709537420
I was giving bipolar as an example, not even a retard would assume that everyone itt had the same illness. I hadn't made any posts or arguments trying to discredit natural things completely, I was trying to highlight the necessity of prescription medication for some, not all, mental illness. Regardless of what I'm suffering from, my observations are valid. You're too eager to shift the blame to other subjects rather than addressing that you generalized all mental illnesses and preached that meditation can do more than prescription drugs on the whole, which is just not true.
>>709537426
>>709537820
nothing cures depression as fast as a couple oxy's. the problem is how quickly it stops being just a couple oxy's.
>>709537579
that shit feels pretty dangerous to be honest. i've eaten up to a gram of it and the physical side effects are pretty bad.
>>709537820
My point is just because it's a plant dosent mean it's ok to take 24 7 and just because it's synthetic dosent mean it will kill you in 3 years
>>709537792
>its not painful
Yeah I know I was asking because I got them all the time when I was on it and when I tapered off, just could never articulate how it felt. Brain zap is a good term for it though.
>>709536133
Get some Sertraline (Zoloft) /b/ro.
I have the same thing as you, overthinking, leading to anxiety.
100mg Sertraline stops the overthinking.
Trust me anon.
>Checking them dubs.
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40mg since 7 years, i dont have depression anymore but taking them off is a bitch
>>709537627
Psychiatrists are doctors, who spent an extra 2 years in medical school to specialize.
They typically dont' do therapy, and if they do its very expensive. They mostly just prescribe medication.
Psychologists are not doctors, and they did not go to med school. Psychologists have a degree in psychology.
There really isn't a good way validate therapists on credentials alone, so you should probably find a psychiatrist, and have the psychatrist refer you to a psychologist for therapy.
Therapists can't diagnose or prescribe medication, so you'd want one who works with your psychiatrist anyway.
They will share notes, and the psychologist will make recommendations. Ultimately, the psychiatrist will be the one who diagnoses and prescribes medication, but you won't be seeing your psychiatrist nearly as often.
>>709537959
>>709537962
You've gotta be really careful with your timing or else you can easily form an addiction that will cause more harm than joy
>>709537579
its l-methamphetamine. its fucking foul. all the peripheral side effects of normal (racemic or d-) methamphetamine but without the fun parts.
there's a reason you can buy it over the counter.
you can feel stimmed out by taking a half gram of caffeine. doesn't mean its wise to.
>>709529322
30mg of oxycodone, does the trick after my recent back surgery
>>709536569
Deep inside me are atoms and molecules you stupid idealist. Plus on a metaphysical sense, the pills become your ego once you take them to supplement you consciousness. The pills become your 'mind' like a pace maker becomes your heart. There's no real qualification for what is a proper mind, and if pills allow you to exist in peace than that is your existence.
>tbh this is the reason I only recreationally do drugs
>>709538102
I've done it several times and I haven't encountered a problem yet. Good buzz, lasts a long time, and has no comedown
>>709537843
Mediation and breathing can do more than prescription drugs. But i'm sure you've never tried or research or opened your mind enough to consider it.
>>709537095
Let's assume i know something about how pills work "camuflage" the problems and how people "deal" with them (surrender with almost 0 willpower to deal with them).
And let's assume i observe people deadwalking like zombies because of pills every day.
And let's assume that we all k ow where is the line when you really, really can't deal with your own mind any more.
And i bet there are less than 2 people in this thread who are on that line.
I know how the "will power to reply on/b" works, my friend. If you would see really depressed people IRL you would be 1000 percent sure they dont have any willpower to turn on cumputer, go on /b and reply.
And as long as you are not on that line, you CAN deal with your mind. It's hard as fuck, but you can. And when that mind doesnt have the power over you any more, no pills can recall the same filling, ever.
>>709537806
Yes actual shingles and outbreaks.
They experimented with me by burning them off with radiation on my face and neck. This was 50 years ago. I know what happened then - my mom was a RN at the hospital that treated me.
>>709537829
Yuroop and spiclandia supply them like that. Here too, for certain things that don't require differing numbers of pills.
DMT WHILE PEAKING ON ACID WITH A FAT MOLLY ROLL HIT THE ZANNIES ON THE COMEDOWN
>>709537627
i think i was recommended to one by my gp. i didn't make much progress with the first one because i wasn't ready to open up and only saw him a few times before i relapsed. the second one was from the same business in a different location, didn't like him. then finally the third i've been seeing for a while and have really opened up to. i guess look for someone you feel the most comfortable or able to open up to. my therapist is a psychologist and i see a psychiatrist at the same place for meds. it's harder for me to talk to him, psychiatrists just seem a bit more intimidating to me and i'm afraid to tell him how i really feel.
>>709537567
personally, I wish I attended cognitive therapy.
I self-treated my depression... and its been a journey. With my knowledge now, I wish I had just seen help earlier.
But, as >>709537788 pointed out, we look down on people who see therapists.
It's pretty fucked up
also, what is your stance on weed/alcohol/other drugs use for recreational means? It seems to me to be playing with fire.
>>709538259
God you're arrogant. You sound like a program meant to keep 5th graders away from drugs. I would bet good money you don't understand how and why drugs work
>>709538102
benzedrex is propylhedexrine.
>>709536569
I was trying to deal with it myself for over 4 years.
Then I couldn't take it anymore, so I sought help, and now I'm on the road to recovery!
You can't do CRAP by yourself, because it's YOUR mind.
That would be like a boulder falls on you and you try to get it off by yourself. Just not going to happen (This also meaning that the more you fight, the more shit you can get into)
>>709538638
And how good you know how your egoistic mind - thinker in you - works?
>>709538058
i've been diagnosed in the past by a psychologist, but i've moved since then so it's not like i can ask him for a recommendation.
i've got ADHD and dysthymia. i've been on amphetamines and lexapro ever since. its just that a GP now prescribes them because if you have an existing script pretty much anyone will write you a new one.
i feel like i'm constantly treading water, just an inch from drowning, yet i'm ignoring all the things i need to do in my life. i can't find the motivation to go to class, or get up on time, or even eat food regularly.
i want to do things, but my actions and my wants are incongruent. i know i'm fucking up my future by skipping class and not doing homework. i know that i'm putting myself in debt and wasting years of my life. but i'm still not going to class. i'm still wasting time.
i don't know what to do.
>>709538259
Im gonna say my way works and yours doesnt and then say you just dont know enough about my stuff. Thats stupid prescription drugs do things meditation and breathing cant. It doesnt matter which is better both have a chance of working or not working based on the individual but its proven that prescription drugs will do something every time even if its shitty
>>709538114
careful, this is how a lot of people slip into opioid addiction
>>709538379
Long term valacyclovir is your friend then. Jesus Christ man.... I've treated a lot of shingles patients and would wish many of those outbreaks on my worst enemy (a woman who had lesions across her face and into her eyes comes to mind) but to have chronic recurrences? That's a bad immune system talking. I feel bad for you.
>>709538638
Well you'd be wrong and paying me bitch. Enjoy your life cunt.
>>709538259
Not the other guy that responded to you.
I'm 29 and have been on prescription meds for only the last four years. Before that I tried meditation, deep breathing, acupuncture, acupressure, religious practices, an enormous variety of different physical exercises and therapies, DBT, CBT, fucking hypnosis, EVERYTHING I could think of before turning to pharmeceuticals. Your assumptions are childish and your points are not validated by personal anecdotes, from me or anyone else ITT. The facts are that meditation is not a reliable form of treatment for many mental illnesses and saying otherwise could deter people from getting real help.
>>709538823
you're right. vicks vapor inhaler is what i'm thinking of. the vicks inhaler in america is levomethamphetamine
>>709538455
...and there's grey-skinned sick looking weird kid we all knew from school who suddenly died
>>709538842
You do realize there are right and wrong ways to deal with your mind, right?
Do you realize that you fight with that "enemy" inside you with most calm way it is possible and not force?
>>709538973
>Long term valacyclovir
Thanks for the tip.
You wouldn't believe how many Dr's blew me off and didn't think that happened to me.
I also think that's got something to do with my fibro.
>>709539029
E D G Y
>>709538488
Depends on your stability and status, honestly. If you're a patient of mine who is treated for depression and is doing well without any chemical abuse history and you like to smoke a joint before bed? No problem. It's others that I worry about. Have bipolar or schizoaffective disorders and like to eat shrooms or take MDMA? Not a smart move.
>>709539089
Yeah, propylhedexrine is good shit, vicks doesnt do anything
Wellbutrin. I don't know if it works, but life generally feels awful if I go without them for too long. I wish I could be put back on effexor soo much! I love the sedated feeling and the euphoric antidepressant side effect that came with it.
Now it's just lorazepam, wellbutrin, and trileptal. Now just imagine paying for this on minimum wage part time. Living the life with no one to blame.
>>709529322
Lorezapam and pbr m8
>>709539075
What about my anecdotes? I've "cured" 5 years of crippling depression/anxiety with no pills. Self medicated with weed for awhile while working on my mind, quit weed and did full body oxygenation with breathing and mediation to focus on resetting the chemicals in my brain.
Just my opinions mate, I can see that Pills are mostly bullshit to keep making companies money, I didn't want to alter my brain with them and tried it this way.
If pills work for you, i couldn't give less of a fuck, but I doubt many can truly say they work at fixing the underlying problem.
>>709538058
>Psychologists are not doctors
Not true. The vast majoirty, if not all, practising psychologists e.g. therapists have doctorates. They are doctors, just not medical doctors. And on that note
>Psychologists have a degree in psychology
Degrees*, as an undergrad is not enough to become a practising psychologist.
>Therapists can't diagnose
Not true, they just don't prescribe medication.
(source: I'm a psychologist)
I quit cold turkey from Celexa 3 years ago and feel fine. I don't give a shit about people so i work in a job with a cubicle all to myself. I smoke weed and do heroin and I feel fucking fantastic.
>>709529322
Just started taking 50 mg Zoloft a couple days ago. It makes me feel super light and feeling buzzed, but not buzzed at the same time. It really does bring the anxiety down though.
>>709538863
sounds like we have the same conditions...
Hmm.
"my actions and wants are incongruent"
Hmm, well, there is a reason why you do everything that you do. If you feel as though your actions are out of line with your desires, then you should move to better understand your desires, your fears, and all the other forces acting on you. The first stage is always discovery. Find yourself, and study your demons. Then, you may begin the path forward.
>>709538973
>>709539366
i've been on 1g of valtrex for maybe two years now. i break it in half and take half in the morning and half at night.
i take it for HSV1 (oral herpes). i would get breakouts back to back. i'd break out for like a week and a half, then be fine for three weeks, and break out again.
i haven't had an outbreak since. there are consequences for taking valtrex daily though. its tough on your liver and kidneys, for one. you need to drink a fuckload of water, otherwise you can cause yourself some serious kidney damage after a couple years.
i've read some articles about people having mental side effects from it. like hallucinations and shit. i haven't really had anything noticeable, but i always remember that its a big boy drug.
it works by being converted into its active form by infected cells, and then binding to the viral DNA polyermase, so the virus can't build its DNA. it also binds to cellular DNA polyermase, which is a little worrying when you think about it over the long term. its about 100x more likely to bind to viral DNA polymerase, but a non-zero amount binds to your healthy DNA polymerase.
i definitely reccomend it though. its improved my quality of life for sure. i don't intend to stop unless it causes me physical harm in some way.
plus, herpes causes brain inflammation, and accelerates alzheimer's development, so anything to prevent that shit.
>>709539366
Yeah. Wish there were more answers for you on the Fibromyalgia front. We may have it figured out in 25 years. Get a full workup of endocrine, some immune markers etc. if you haven't along with your usual post-50 exam. I assume you're over 50 from your previous post. Good luck to you.
>>709539821
ill believe you. who should i go see for CBT?
what should i look for in a therapist?
>>709539599
Medicaid is the best insurance in the US. I can't even blame people for being on it.
>>709539599
>has benzo script and is complaining
Trilafon, I get it as injection, it works brilliantly
>>709539766
I'm really glad you had such good results. As for the truly acute illnesses? Let science deal with them.
>>709539075
Since you tried all that, do yourself a favour and try this:
Calm. Not force-calm, but surrender-calm. Accept your mind as it is and OBSERVE it (the thinker in your head) as a watcher.
When you will be angry, OBSERVE that feeling. Ask yourself, where does it come from? Try to reaaally feel it, almost like seeing that anger in head. AS SOON you will really "see" it in head and observe it for a moment, you will start to relax. Trust me on that one. I hope none of you ever had anger and impulsivity problems strong as me. Its hard to deal with that, when that moment comes, but if you can do what i wrote you, when that "im gonna kill somebody" comes and observe it as long as it doesn't go away, you will take that power over your mind and you will be proud of yourself as fuck.
We all know you cant be mad 24/7. You cant be super (suicidal) depressed 24/7 (in this case you will kill youself within 24 hours). You can't be anxious 24/7. You literally can't. So that means those moods, obviously come and go. Sometimes weak, sometimes strong. But when they come, observe (that is thst fucking will power which "doesnt work") them. Hpw does depression look like in my head? Focus on depression. Just observe, don't judge. That will make you CONSCIOUS and your thoughts (witch need past and future to survive) will lose power.
Please take a two minutes right now and try this:
Close your eyes, and ask yourself "what is the next thought that will come (unvoluntary of course) to my mind?", "Will be that positive or negative thought?" Then wait. Wait like in ambush for thought. And strooonger you conscious observing will be, longer there will be no thought. Your impulsive thougjt come when you lose focus on consciousness.
Just try it. You might ve very supprissed what you will find out.
What's the best way to initiate the convo with a doctor? I've lived with depression for all of my teenage and adult life, but never got treatment due to ultra religious parents, and then not being able to afford insurance. Obviously I want to get on something but also don't want to go in and just ask for pills.
>>709539821
my girlfriend has dissociative identity disorder.
We found out about this... maybe, 6 months ago? We're having a lot of trouble getting her diagnosed and into treatment. Lots of psychologists around here claim they aren't qualified. Waiting lists. Plus, one of her alters is making it hard for her to tell her psychiatrist any details that would get her diagnosed.
So, for the past few months, I've been doing what I must to help her.... and... without meaning, things just keep moving. I've been trying to prevent her from losing her job or her apartment, but woh, this is no joke.
We found out about her condition back in august... I've met 9 alters, and in the last 2 weeks memories have started to surface.
I know why she has DID now... and boy... its a doosy. 2 days ago she integrated with one of her alters.
...is that a good sign? Do you have any documents I can read to better help her? Advice?
Her insurance won't cover anything until the new year, so I just have to hold things off until january.
>>709529551
How many mg? My klonopin did very little on a low dosage
>>709529322
This, usually when im butthurt, girls shud use it, your butthole won't feel any pain, mainly used for sitting out bricks
>>709541009
I'd have to know way more information specific to your girlfriend's case to give any meaningful insight, sorry
i feel like i'm running out of options for anxiety meds. tried hydroxyzine, buspirone, and ssris. my psychiatrist definitely wont give me benzos. does anybody have an idea of what he might prescribe me next?
>>709539821
I'm a DNP, so a doctorate-holding Nurse Practitioner. And while no one understands the desire to clarify roles and differences in training more than me, your post was filled with angst. Don't let the condescending MDs get to you. Me personally? I don't expect my patients or nurses to address by anything but name. This is a collaborative field, not a competition.
>>709540861
It's also called perphenazine for amerifags
>>709540169
i feel like a robot. like i'm on autopilot.
i wouldn't say i want to kill myself, but when i think of death i can think of the positives of it.
if i'm studying for a test, or getting dressed before class, or headed to a meeting, i'll sometimes think "you know, if you died you wouldn't have to worry about any of this shit. i mean, we'll be dead in like 60 years or whatever anyway. just a thing to think about"
i don't know who i am. i envy those who have passion in their lives. i envy those who say "i'm going to be a doctor! i've always wanted to be one!" i don't want to do anything. i can't see myself clocking into ANY job every day. i am not looking forward to anything. my life is a haze.
i'm not alone, but i'm lonely. i have friends that i can call upon. if i wanted to hang out with someone, i bet i could find someone. if i sent texts out, i bet i'd get texts back. if i hang out with someone, as soon as i'm done, i let out a heavy sigh and feel empty again. i wish someone would just hold my hand and help me out for a little bit. and i KNOW i have friends that would, but i just don't ask them to. and i don't want to ask them to. i'd rather suffer, i guess.
i've got the lock in front of me. i've got the key in my hand. but for some reason, i'm just not opening the door.
>>709540427
Eh - it's beyond me now.
I'm disabled so I have Medicare but I lost my Medicaid and can't afford my new insurance deductibles, co-pays, and out of pocket expenses (like many others). So I focus on getting my wife's meds and tests paid for.
I've lived with it long enough.
I'm just pumping a pulse until my number's pulled now.
>>709540900
As someone who struggles with depression and anxiety I can confirm that this works. Self awareness is something that everyone needs to work on. It's the best when you are aware that moods and feelings are temporary and YOU control them. Just remember though that every mental exercise takes practice EVERY day. Don't get frustrated that you aren't a zen master overnight and quit.
>>709541398
fair enough. Its one thing for a boyfriend to meet her alters. Without knowing it, I've already been interacting with them for over a year anyway. However, I am not qualified to treat trauma. I "play" therapist, but I'm not going to pretend that I know what I'm doing.
I need to throw the brakes on this, as much as possible. Maintain until she can get into treatment... except, that does not seem to be happening at all, nomatter how much I try.
Do you maybe know somewhere I can find medical documents on the subject? It's very hard to find things that aren't incredibly dumbed down.
>>709541008
nobody abuses antidepressants. there is no high from them.
tell the doctor you think you are depressed. he'll give you a test and ask you some questions. you really shouldn't look it up too much because if you know what he's looking for you'll skew the diagnosis.
in actual fact, i'd recommend seeing a psychiatrist and getting a real evaluation. when i was 17 i got one done. it was like three hours long and he did all kinds of tests. he gave me this like 15 page packet with notes on my behavior and how i responded and shit. really changes the way you view yourself when you get an essay explaining what makes you do the things you do.
>>709541008
"Doc, I really feel like I may have depression". Short discussion of history, a couple of baseline paper tests, a talk about options, and bang. Introductory medication. Take as directed and do NOT skip your follow up.
>>709539123
How does one fight voices and delusions right? The best way I found was with meds
Escitalopram (lexapro) has been my go to for depression/anxiety. It's extremely effective at helping manage it. Without medical assistance, I'm basically a worthless human being.
Gives me dry mouth though.
>>709540872
Nice and condescending. There is science behind the method i used, and much more to come. Hopefully for your sake it reaches you in time.
>>709540900
You need to understand that psychosis cannot be calmly observed. When I am manic, my thoughts are racing so quickly and are so irrational that there is no option to be objective and distant. Your method may work on a variety of problems, and I appreciate you typing all of that up. I just can't stress enough that some disorders NEED medication to be effectively treated. Bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, etc. Etc.
I'm not saying that everyone should take meds. I'm not saying pills cure all disease. I'm not saying meditation isn't an effective means of treating some mental illness.
All I'm saying is that prescription drugs DO have their uses and they can make an astronomical difference
>>709541447
I didn't intend to come across angsty, I just wanted to help clarify the differences because it's something I've found a lot of service users don't understand the differences between the two professions. Just trying to spread some information.
Also I'm glad you don't expect to be called anything but you're name cause people who insist patients or colleagues refer to them by their title are usually arseholes.
If you have a bad day, reach for some seroquel! That shit will zombify you good
>>709541868
>>709541891
Thanks for the advice. I've just always figured I'd be told to go to therapy or something else I can't afford.
Lexapro, Lithium, Hydroxyzine, and Seroquel
Don't know what the fuck they're supposed to do but Seroquel is my savior.
>>709541649
That's sad.
>on another note, has anyone seen this captcha? WTF am I supposed to do with this on mobile??? Now I need a benzo
>>709529322
Latuda and depakote. Not so much "happy" as neither cripplingly depressed nor massively overexcited.
>>709541860
Just don't enable her and her 'alters' too much. Like you said, if you don't know what you're doing you run the risk of causing more damage. Don't try and play therapist, you already have an important role, just be there for her as her partner.
>>709529322
Im drinking. No pills here.
>>709529411
Its the little things anon. You deserve a (You).
>>709541933
Being conscious. Period.
Knowing the difference between YOU and your compulsive thinker in your head, with who YOU identify.
That is the first step. To even realize that difference and to know what is conscious and how it feels and what is compulsive thinking and how it works.
Only then you can start to work on being conscious and observer your thoughts. Your feelings and emotions is how your body reacts on your thoughts/thinking, conscious or unconscious.
To deal with problems without pills, you have eather to go and live with monks or you have to study those thing and practice it on your own.
It's not easy. That's why they made pills.
>>709541860
Here's NAMI(basic and forum): https://www.nami.org/Learn-More/Mental-Health-Conditions/Dissociative-Disorders
Clinical: http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/294508-overview
And for her own safety? If gets real bad, don't hesitate to put her on a 72 hour hold. She'll get the treatment she needs and she'll be safe.
>>709541963
Back to your sweatlodge and healing crystals, hippy
>>709542006
That is exactly what i was pointing out. The stronger the fillings/compulsive thinking, the harder to observe. But when you get so strong to observe it when it really hits you and when you overcome it, it will make you cry out of happines.
I know how depression anxiety and panic attacs work. I deal with them for 28 years. So i know it's far, far from easy to practice this. But it is essential to practice it when it hits you. We all can meditate when we are calm. But how strong actually your control over the mind is shows when the mind decide to test you.
>>709543033
At least the hippies have girls around them
>>709542006
I think we can all agree on that. But you are the minority.
10% of Americans take antidepressants, and the percentages in some other countries are even higher (lower populations though). You really think 10% of people need them? 9% of that group could be taken away with mindfullness etc whatever you want to call it.
>>709542733
>>709542240
Thank you... clarification.. what do you mean by enable?
and yeah, the 72 hour hold is a thing.
>>709529322
ALL TEH JEW DURGS AND CHEMICAL LOBOTOMY AGENTS
>>709543190
True, but I'd rather be a virgin than fuck one of those SJW hairy samsquatches
>>709543033
Ignorant sheeple. Stay medicated zombie faggot.
>>709538927
Weed is all I need
>>709543374
By don't enable I mean don't play along, like, don't encourage it.
>>709543411
YES GOYIM TAKE OUR CHEMICALS THEY WILL HELP YOU HAAHAH OY VEY
>>709543271
I think 9% is an exaggeration on your behalf.
The eastern mind is accustomed to changing balance and flow through meditation and mindfullness, the western mind is accustomed to chemical change and needs to either inhale, insufflex, or inject or pop or whatever the hell you do to feel the change.
The western mind is closed around direct change whereas the eastern mind can passify through passivity
Wait! Does this shit even work?
I tried some herbal shit with amber. (not sure if this is the english term for it. Im talking about the plant -Hypericum perforatum- not the stone here!)
It was hell. It was ment to give a litte mood lift after a few weeks, but I only felt more depressed with this bullshit and this was only the softcore antidepressant.
I dont know If im depressed or shit. I just stopped caring. Dont know If I need any of this.
Im drunk every day to stop feeling shit and dont care if it kills me. What do I have to lose? Working 40 more years in a shitty job and then being old and have no money because the pension system is fucked up? no thanks.
Is this normal, or am I depressed? I dont fucking know and dont care.... But an answer would still be a thing that is nice to know.
>>709543402
Your breeding organ tells you otherwise
>>709543411
Sorry for misaligning your chakras. Here. Have a rock.
>>709543271
i don't "need" an iphone. a regular phone would be fine. i prefer having an iphone though.
i don't "need" to eat meat. i'd be healthier with a vegetarian diet. i prefer eating meat though.
i don't "need" to use baby wipes for my asshole. i could use regular toilet paper. i prefer baby wipes though.
i don't "need" antidepressants. i could just work on my self control. i prefer being on antidepressants though.
>>709543518
This. I've seen acute borderline personality disorder manifest this way. I'm suspicious of so many distinct alter personalities. Smells like a manipulative thing to me. Be careful, anon.
>>709543593
Yes i see your point, but i meant for the fact that they shouldn't be on them. I agree those 10% are probably never going to get off them and the number will only rise.
>>709529411
Good man.
>>709543798
A mere pleb doesn't effect me in the slightest like it may effect you.
I was willing to share if people asked but negative minds are hard to penetrate.
>>709543593
>>709543835
If you prefer being a cuck that's fine, lots of people here do :)
>>709543668
You have what we like to call alcoholism, and that depression you describe is a worsening byproduct of this. Get help.
>>709544131
I'd heavily agree that various diagnoses are "handed out" indiscriminately, and without proper supervision, but in my opinion it is better to be safe than sorry, people can always get off the pills when it is a passing depression, all they have to do is ask.
Hell, I'm schizophrenic as fuck and can get off my medication whenever I want under professional consultance.
The thing is just some people are too comfortable with the exra boost it gives some to be on either antidepressants or SSRI blockers. People just don't care after that because their whole perspective on authority is changed, and noone around them does anything to change them, like saying "maybe you should stop popping the pill, because you've become an illiterate ass seuse"
>>709543835
>Comparing iphone to antidepresants
To make it clear. We all know you won't do whatever your mind don't likes to do.
If you would have a button "drug-free and healthy", you would press it. But "work hard to get drug-free and healthy" is just too out of comfort zone of you mind.
No biggie. Let your mind to controls you and good luck with that in your life.
If you don't have the willpower to stop fapping for one month, don't expect to take a possesion over your mind
>>709544332
Thank you. I prefer my mind remain unpenetrated.
>>709543518
......I mean, if I call her by the wrong name she gets upset. Her alters walk differently. They talk differently. They have different ages, genders, sexualities...Sometimes it takes the possessive form... ignoring it isn't an option. One girl has no attraction to me whatsoever. One girl, if I try to kiss her she kinda freaks out...
I don't know how to encourage or not encourage it... its just "her". I definitely don't feed her delusions though, if that's what you're getting at.
>>709543798
I love to see such blind, bred conceit subject itself to sabotage because of it's own ignorance. It truly is justice. The only misfortune is that you'll be insufferable for as long as you're still alive.
Sincerely Unscientifically proven, quack, paranoid, magical thinking, religious, safe and effective, tin foil hat, holistic, conspiracy, disdain for the natural order, trusting jewish science, are not known, non-scientific, anti-vaxxer, truther anon
>>709535269
APPLY DIRECTLY TO THE FOREHEAD
>>709544020
I know its DID. I found out it she had it when I was in the process of breaking up with her. It switched from non-possessive to possessive-form.
And, in possessive form... well, there is no other explanation for the things I've seen.
I'm not sure if you guys know or not but people who have a real reason to be on antidepresants, are under 24/7 control without internet.
>>709544360
Soooooo wanna see this happen to Hillary Clinton...
>>709544604
Can't say the same about your asshole.
>>709544796
Hey! You have a lot of relatives around here. I've met a lot of them.
>>709544918
Wow. I'd run the fuck away. As far and fast as I could. And never look back.
>>709544582
sure. you're not wrong.
if i could choose "be strong without having to work out and eat right" i'd press that button too.
but i don't want to have to put the work in. so i don't go to the gym and i don't eat well.
i'd like to be drug free and happy as my default state, but drugs work as a crutch.
i am my mind. there is no puppet master behind the scenes. this is my reality and the choices i make influence it.
>>709544942
Preferably before November 8th. But her team of cybernetic scientists will keep her upright long enough to let the missiles fly.
>>709545440
your compulsive thinking is your puppet master
>>709530758
Be careful with them. I fucked myself up royally on that shit
I took escitalopram or some shit for a few months. All I can say is, it's no coincidence all those mass murderers were on some sort of mood-altering drugs. That shit fucks with your brain beyond your control.
>>709544675
Sounds grim man, just try your best to keep everything at bay and don't feed into her delusions as much as possible. Then have her seek professional help whenever possible. Good luck anon.
>>709545440
>but i don't want to have to put the work in
You'll never go anywhere with that attitude. You're under no obligation to be who you were yesterday. You can do it if you really wanted to, you just have to want it. Good luck.
>>709544918
>>709545319
not either of these guys, but i think that for YOUR benefit and STRICTLY YOUR BENEFIT you would be better off leaving her.
i've been in your position. i had a girlfriend who would probably kill herself if i broke up with her. i mean, she didn't but ya know. i thought "man its such a shame she's the way she is. maybe i can help fix her?" but there are some people that you just can't fix. and most of the time, its not your fucking job to fix them either.
i wish you the best, friend.
>>709544675
>>709546015
This is bad advice. You get one life anon. The best thing to do would be to leave her, best for yourself and her.
>>709546015
thank you, so much.
