Philosophy Thread
What philosophical school of thought would you consider yourself?
What is the meaning of life?
>>709340711
Life has no meaning, we are but biological functions that are cursed with sentience.
>>709340711
Meaning of life is To give life meaning fag
>>709340850
Seems like you have a case of nihilism, don't worry. You'll get over it.
>>709340904
What a cruel joke.
>>709340904
That's legitimate. There's a whole school of thought called existentialism dedicated to this
>>709340986
I hope I will, but philosophically this is how I see life.
>>709340850
This is the only truth. All other things are opinion.
The way I see it, life's only purpose is to continue itself. The best way to live life, however, is by maintaining maximum personal happiness. Just because things only make you happy because of evolution, it doesn't mean they shouldn't make you happy.
Existentialist; it's essentially what life is all about...or not; it's up to you.
>>709341426
But isn't that your opinion? Can anything really be known as an absolute truth at all?
>>709340711
>meaning of life
you're an absolute retard if you think "life" means anything
you might as well be a religiousfag
>>709341601
That's a pretty good point. /B/ should start a new school of philosophy, wherein our goal is to question everything, then question our questions, and then repeat.
>>709340711
The LoLz.
>>709341601
No its not my opinion. Its verified by science.
life
noun
1.
the condition that distinguishes animals and plants from inorganic matter, including the capacity for growth, reproduction, functional activity, and continual change preceding death.
"the origins of life"
synonyms: existence, being, living, animation, aliveness, animateness; More
2.
the existence of an individual human being or animal.
"a disaster that claimed the lives of 266 people"
synonyms: person, human being, individual, mortal, soul, creature
"more than 1,500 lives were lost in the accident"
>>709341601
It is the closest thing that we have to an absolute truth about human existence: we are alive for a period of time, and we can think. The concept of "meaning" is nothing but a human notion, a goal set by an animal for itself. But the concept of absolute truth is not obtainable unless absolute objectivity is reached, which we can not possess either.
>>709341702
What your explaining is essentially what philosophy is. Just a series of questions about life, reality and knowledge.
There is no meaning to life. You are and then someday you aren't.
We're all just marbles on shaky ground bouncing off each other believing consciously or otherwise that we're the different marble.
Meaning. You give the universe too much credit. Nothing truly has meaning. It is a fruitless concept when you take it too seriously.
Here, i have a question for you. one equally as important.
What is the meaning of having a meaning to the meaning of life?
>>709341151
Think about it this way:
1) If there is no higher purpose to life, and nothing exists but the materiel universe, then we don't have free will. So if nihilism is true, then there is no point of "choosing" to find meaning in life, because all "choices" are illusions.
2) If life really does have meaning, and you do have free will, then you definitely should choose to seek it out, as there is so much to gain.
Neither 1 or 2 can be absolutely proven to be true, so why not pick 2? If 1 ends up to be right your decision to find meaning or not doesn't matter, because nothing matters. But if 2 is correct then you could find something truly amazing. Why not just try to search for the meaning of life?
>>709341771
You got ego, bro?
Teolstoy wrote of Christian Anarchy. He felt mankind was better suited to be left without governments or laws, that people could live peaceably and in harmony without mandates. He however felt that humans needed a basic understanding of christianity to accomplish that. Not the regemented thou shalt fuck a goat every third tuesday, but along the libes of dont be a dick. If someones starving, asking for money, etc. and you can reasonably accomadate, why judge their circumstances? Just give them some change.
>>709341941
But isn't science based on some unproven assumptions about the nature of the universe?
>>709341010
He said from his luxuriously cushioned seating apparatus via incredible worldwide communication network.
Like fuck people are pathetic
seriously if your brain even think "maybe there is a meaning to life" you're an idiot
maybe you're good at math or memorization or whatever, but you have an inferior brain
SUCKS TO BE YOU CUCKLORDS
>>709342136
free will can still exist in a nihilist reality, except that said free will is only used to further one's emotional desires. The two are compatible in the philosophy.
>>709342067
Philosophosism is what we'll call it.
>>709341601
Yes, there is an absolute truth: You exist (Descartes).
>>709342136
Because the 2 people are massive faggots.
praise jesus yall.
>>709342113
To enjoy a meaningful life.
What is meaningful to you?
>>709340986
Yes, I'll eventually die.
>>709340986
Not necessarily. It could also be absurd-ism. What he's said is true and he accepts that and just gets on with it.
>>709342259
No, its not.
>>709342304
this, thinking that somehow there is an alternate plane, a second reality or truth that can ratify and hold up some sort of values devised by man is absurd; nothing is morally or strategically held up (as far as we can tell) by anything more than the words and actions of man.
>>709341601
"The absolute truth is that OP is a faggot."
Plato, 1776
The meaning of life selfish adn replicating endlessly
>>709342113
To many, that meaning would give meaning to the meaning of life. Essentially: exsistentialism. Now, is that meaning a true, objective meaning? No, it's subjective. Therefore, existentialism reigns.
the conditions exist for you to be yourself
>>709342512
What you said, I understand that reality is no more than a fabrication of biological processes and that meaning is nothing but a human concept, but I still get out of bed and go to work everyday knowing this. This knowledge/belief doesn't make me immune to desire and feelings.
>>709340711
How have I gotten this far without having a philosophy? I've kind of adopted the morals of super heroes, thats not a philosophy, a creation fantasy is like a religion not a philosophy. cause/reaction and risk/reward. does that count? I'm gonna say thats my philosophy
Albert Camus-absurdism. It triumphs over its stupid cousin, nihilism, and solves the suicide problem
>>709342337
How can free will exist in a materialist universe?
>>709342660
>The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
>Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
Except this
>>709342017
Bravo
>>709342536
Doesn't science assume that the universe follows rational and consistent laws?
>>709340711
Tomism, minus the "don't create living machines" thing
>>709342395
Only until you are aware of it, then you cease to exist.
>>709342136
Just because there is no purpose does not mean there is no free will. Free will can exist in a meaningless existence. You're free to choose, it's just all options are meaningless.
A lack of free will would mean you have no options.
>>709341702
I'm questioning if there's any point to that
>>709340711
Existential Nihilism.
To answer, life has no meaning except that which we ascribe to it. This universe is a gigantic, chaotic, beautiful clusterfuck. We are but a speck on an indescribably massive plane of existence. There are 3 paths: Suicide, constant distraction, or rebellion. I choose rebellion, because fuck the universe for trying to make people sad. It's petty, I know. To just defy my own situation, but hey, it doesn't really matter unless I make it so. People are nothing but their actions. I am everything wrong with me. I'm everything great about me. We'll all be forgotten someday, but why distract or fully accept when you can trigger your own rebirth?
>>709342067
This is modern day sophistry
we are all god putting on an act in order to entertain our self...
>>709343025
Basically a "choose your own adventure" goosebumps novel except the whole time you cry about how much reading sucks
>>709342829
So long as there's a form of option, free will exists.
>>709342136
If you were to say that life was meaningless, you would be right. But, there is still something with meaning
Nietzsche
>>709343306
Just because it sucks doesn't mean it isn't true
>>709343362
Just like trump v Clint Eastwood
>>709343018
No. I exist, I am aware of it...I continue to exist. I can now build upon that realization, it is not the end, but the beginning.
>>709343449
He said, stating his opinion.
I like reading :(
>>709342829
The debate on free will is completely conjecture, but my take is that free will exists through variable chance: people are given choices, and through that if they were given the same choice over and over, in say a different reality for arguments sake, they could make a different one sheerly by chance. Because of this free will exists, people have choices and the slightest interactions create entirely different thought processes. It seems that in reality, processes of thought are too spontaneous to be boiled down to rigid physical or chemical variables, and are like a coin flip. At least that's how I see it. I'm not a psych major or anything.
>>709340711
Kantian
Dare to know faggots! Have the fucking courage to use your own understanding, for God sake, it's been more than two hundred years.
>>709343481
>u)
Yes. The options might suck, but hey: you've still got the freedom to choose. Ugh.
>>709343512
i think therefore i am
>>709340711
PLASTIC!
ASSHOLES!
>>709343740
>What is manufacturing of consent?
True choice v lesser of two evils pls
>>709343758
His famous realization. It's the start of everything he builds upon.
>>709343025
Free will cannot exist in a materialist universe. If all that our conscience is is a series of chemicals and electrons going off in out brain, due to environmental surroundings, do we really have free will?
>>709340711
I vacillate between enlightened self interest and utilitarianism depending on the day.
>>709342976
No, science observes the universe and records repeatable tests which give the same result for anyone.
>>709343973
He has point.
All things reasons = nature = not truly sentient = nobody responsible for any of their own actions....
Wait...
>>709343843
Ah, now you're delving deeper into the topic.
True, open choice is rare. Lesser of two evils/best available option is more often the choices available.
>>709343973
No.
Life itself has but one universal purpose - to survive, and continue the survival of the species. Consuming energy, reproducing, and dying are the only features all living things have in common. Presumably, however, humans are the only creatures with the intelligence to ask the question, "why?"
But why does life insist on having a purpose? Does an insect wonder why it exists?
One thing is for certain, though. Since humans have walked the earth, their meaning has always been to explore, improve, and expand their reach. Deep down, though, these things are but more efficient ways of ensuring the survival of our species.
So there's my take. The meaning of life is simply to continue to live. This is the truth not just for humans, but for all of life.
Define meaning
>>709344211
Then explain consciousness. It is more than just a series of chemical reactions. Therefore, it is greater than just nature, you are sentient and responsible for your actions.
>>709344191
Doesn't science assume that human reason and senses are an accurate socurce of knowledge?
Doesn't science assume that all variables are being tested for or controlled, even the ones that they don't know about?
>>709340711
I mistrust all systematizers and avoid them. The will to a system is a lack of integrity
>>709344388
meaning is a human construct in order to set loftier ideals and goals for actions and life. In truth, it is nothing more than a mental creation, as nothing physical has presented any evidence of any meaning. for meaning to exist, at least for us to truly know, is that there would be some physical representation of it.
>>709344280
What gets interesting is when you can think a few steps ahead and weigh long term against short term gains.
Sure, there usually is a better choice, but the more variables you throw into the mix, the more it appears as if you have an actual choice.
Or you could be like Larry Niven's protectors, and be so intelligent that you have no choice whatsoever.
>>709344388
Meaning is the meaning you give to something. It's different for everyone.
>>709344211
How can we rationalize punishing someone for a crime, if they have no free will, and therefore had no choice in doing the crime?
>>709344608
Knowledge and the awareness of your surroundings are very different.
>>709344288
Not an argument
>>709344608
Science doesn't assume anything. (or at least tries not to) instead science is an attempt at gaining the best understanding of physical properties of matter, energy, life, and the universe. Science is not perfect and never will be. There will always be variables not accounted for, and always be room for improvement in scientific theory.
Existence precedes essence.
>>709344623
It doesn't have to have a physical representation; you just have to believe in the meaning.
>>709344841
to prevent further actions from them to harm others.
I believe in Cthulhu and the Old Ones
#NoLivesMatter
>>709344969
but then in truth there is no meaning if is only in imagination. One could construct that the meaning of life is to create cheese if they wanted to. It only has any influence in the mind of the believer. therefore it is not a concrete standard. This is flawed in my opinion.
>>709343973
every choice you make or opinion you have is a result of environmental conditioning. you learn to be who you are by your experiences, basically you are the sum of what's happened to you
>>709344598
If all that exists is matter, then free will is an illusion. Reality sucks, doesn't it?
>>709340711
nihilism
>>709344679
If you are so intelligent that you've got no choice, wouldn't that imply you've attained a type of Nirvana? A perfect knowledge of everything? In other words: one answer for everything?
>>709345125
edgy, braindead 12 year old leave.
>>709340711
Greatest philosopher of all time
>Wherefrom you can't speak you should just shut the fuck up
There is no inherent question about life being "good", "meaningfull" or "just", those are all misunderstandings that arise from a flawed understanding of logic. "Good or Meaningfull" both only come to exist from a romantocised and overvalue of human language
>>709344926
Very good grasshopper.
>>709344608
1, No, science does not rely on one person to make accurate determinations about the universe. Human reason has no play, its all about observation.
2, No. Science states that under current conditions x will happen after having tested it 1000 times before and having x happen.
Science does not consider anything unfalsifiable inside of its own system. However if there has never been anything proven to falsify something within it it maintains itself as the closest approximation to the truth.
if i kill a killer is wrong?
if i rape a rapist, is also wrong?
if i shot a corrupt person, like a politician, is this considered a crime?
if justice fail to convict some criminal, what prevail? popular justice?
if someone fall on the ground, for whatever reason, do you help that person?
if someone is suffering from hunger, doesnt matter if its black or white nor if is poor or not, can you give food for that person, despite the fact that you paid for the meal?
i would like to read some answers
Epicureo, party and bullshit
>>709344841
"He [Zeno the Stoic] was once beating a slave for stealing, and when the latter said 'I was fated to steal', he replied, 'and to be flogged'"
>>709344873
Correct. It is a fact.
>>709344859
That's exactly my point. What science observes is just what is filtered through our limited senses. What's the point of being aware of your surroundings if in reality it is all an illusion fabricated in your mind?
>>709345331
of course all moral dialogue is completely relative because it is from opinion and instinct. Morality in an existentialist or nihilist philosophy is held up because it benefits you to believe in moral values, and they are already an ingrained part of the psyche.
>>709340711
I'm a cynic and it sucks living in a world where everyone thinks cynic means "negative."
No, you dumb bitch, I'm just trying to tell you that it's pointless to do scratch offs and they make you look like trash. That's not negative, it's just true. I've even had jobs where their rules of conduct includes no cynicism. How the fuck do you create a rule against being realistic?
"Well we have 4 pallets left. Realistically it's going to take is longer than the rest of our shift, so it's probably a better use of time to prep them to put up in the steel and then just finish tomorrow when we have more time."
"NAW DUDE DON'T BE A CYNIC WE CAN KNOCK THESE OUT IN NO TIME"
You might be able to tell the kind of people I deal with on a regular basis are usually poor, white trash optimists.
The sad thing about being cynical is that I'm genuinely trying to help people not waste their time or money, but they just hate me for it.
>>709345137
If we follow Descartes: I think therefore I am.....If I think I can give meaning. If I give meaning, it is real (to me) and that's what's important. If your meaning is to create cheese, then that's what you've determined as your life's meaning.
No, there is no concrete standard; you're thinking 'in the box' so to speak.
I like stoicism
No point in questioning everything yet one can still acknowledge that we are subject to emotion especially that which makes us depressed or sad.
Suck it up and soldier on since you don't have the balls to kill yourself sooner or later you'll find solace in something
>>709345543
fucking savage, incredible.
>>709342395
Prove it.
The meaning of life? life does not meaning ... can you find a point on a perfect sphere? You can you tell if life is good or bad? life is just this, this fading, the past that want to hold and the future is uncertain
>>709344926
Go away you sartreian, ass fucking Marxist!
>>709345143
In part, but not as a whole...now we're getting into psychology.
>>709345749
ah yes, the "don't think about it and ball up your emotions and thoughts" philosophy, how deep and intelligent.
>>709345454
I wholeheartedly agree
>>709345671
>ignoring the other answers posted to debate with the weakest answer
>>709345698
you do not answer the questions
>>709345161
But imagination and thought is not matter. It's not quantifiable.
>>709340711
stoicism is pretty niffty
"Man was born free, and he is everywhere in chains."
Jean-Jacques Rousseau
>>709345778
I think, therefore, I am.
Read Descartes, I'm not going over it all with you.
>>709345944
Only solution that doesn't produce a broken record effect
Every situation that brings you down is a new instance in your life. Either you move on or you don't.
Better than being perpetually angry or confused. In the end you're the only person you truly know and if you can't be comfortable in your own skin then you need a new outlook on life
Inflammatory opinion
>>709345302
1, and what if human observation is flawed, as with out limited senses, surely is?
2, and do you deny the possibility of variables existing in witch you do not know about? Are there not conditions which are unknowable to humans?
"it doesn't matter if you're chains are 10 feet, or 100 feet, the fact remains the same, you are still bound by chains."
>>709346566
bad feels
>>709345331
No.
No.
No.
No such thing as justice.
It doesn't matter either way.
Yes you can if you want.
>>709345605
Got proof?
>>709343123
The universe isn't trying to make you sad retard the universe doesn't give a fuck that you even exist
>>709346511
i have a portuguese version of descartes. i will nail it again.
>>709346831
is this nihilism?
>>709346455
>Man is born free, and everywhere he is in chains. Here’s one who thinks he is the master of others, yet he is more enslaved than they are.
Quote the whole think process of the sentence, not only half of it you uneducated moron
>>709346574
Both of these questions are irrelevant. Science and the scientific method is the best we have at the moment. Using the methodology has brought us closer to the truth then any other methodology. I am sorry you dont like the truths discovered. Reality sucks, but it if makes you feel better to make believe in your head go right ahead.
>>709346831
the number 5 question, explain.
also thank you for your answer.
>>709340711
You know that one where you do to others what you would want others to do to you?
That one....except for that bs "Well what if I wanted someone to punch me in the face? Does that make my punching you in the face?" argument.
...so my philosophical school of thought is hypocrisy?
>>709342395
There is no reason to assume that "you", as a continous being, exist. From Descartes-like argument you can only know that someone exists.
>>709345915
What other "part" is effecting your decision making process other than the signals in your brain? In order to say that there is something else at work, you would have to argue that it is something non physical, something not changed by the cause and effect of the materiel world.
>>709346961
Try not to pee, eat, or drink and keep living. Try to fly.
>>709345454
Amen. Deep and thought provoking. This has changed my life. Wow.
Nietzsche, Schopenhauer, relativism, ... everything against doctrines and absolute values
everything that faces the human nature in an unbiased fashion and doesn't deny our biology,
>>709345331
"wrong."
morality does not exist outside of our minds, it is a relative concept. this said, murder is wrong brcause we have a societal duty, a collective morality, to abstain from such behaviors. and while our raging, primitive id may tell us any justice, even the most barbaric, is better than no justice, there are certain boundries set by society that we've agreed not to cross if we wish to live within said society
>>709340850
I had this epiphany on a mushroom trip once, it was pretty rad.
Si vis pacem, para bellum
Life (scientific process) is a predictable series of events. It isn't chaotic, it's just playing out in it's complicated fashion, and the only reason we can't predict it yet is because we don't fully understand it. Once we have a supercomputer powerful enough we'll be able to fully predict what will happen down to the molecule. By then it'll probably be something more abstract than a supercomputer, like a "Quantum II Exa-Quark Hadron Collider".
Our consciousness is just an interesting by product of evolution and it is not special. It's probably just a feedback loop due to the layers of our perception imo. We have a very very small genetic difference from chimps. It's unfortunate that humans have stopped evolving, hopefully there's another philosophical enlightenment coming soon.
>>709347657
Negative doctrines are still doctrines
>>709347716
had it while having a panic attack while high. worst existential crisis i ever had.
>>709340711
I'm a practicing Buddhist, mostly of the Tibetan/Nyingma/Dzogchen school.
Buddhism is unusual by Western standards, because it denies that there's any such thing as a permanent self. There's no such thing as a soul, and we're all the result of random chance. So, the nearest Western equivalent would be existentialism.
(To be clear, there are no gods in Buddhism, and nobody worships the Buddha; he was an ordinary human being who happened to figure out some important things about how our minds work.)
But, because there's no such thing as an essential self, and no clear boundaries between ourselves and everything else, it follows that whatever we do affects all beings, as well as ourselves. So the most important thing is compassion, to understand that other people are driven by their circumstances and their preconceptions, and so they're really not at fault for the terrible things they might do--and they're not solely responsible for any good that they do, either.
Bottom line: we're all in this together, and we'll be better off if we recognize that and act accordingly.
>>709347915
I love parabellum
Good old punk
I would go on and say i am nihilistic but i know nihilism does not exsist. It is impossible to not beleive in anything. You believe in nature,due to it being the literal driving force that guides you,so,therefore you beleive in something.
But i will say that i think the purpose life gives us is what we give it. If you think life is meaningless then i guess it is meaningless. If think you are important,you are important. Just go out and have fun.
>>709347209
if someone fall on the ground, for whatever reason, do you help that person?
Life has no meaning, so if you help someone who needs it, and it dosen't greater your self interest, then why do it? There is no reason to be uneccisarily cruel, and keep them down, but there is also no reason to help them back up.
>>709348371
To have been perceived as a greater person in doing so? To "influence" those around you to further your goal of fucking that hot barista at Starbucks like the filthy, thoughtless and rabid animal that you are .
My phillosophy is based around ignorance. I don't know the meaning of life. I don't know if life has meaning. I don't know where I came from. I don't know what will happen after death. I don't know if God exists. I don't know if I have a soul.
Nothing can be known except for ourselves. The world is absurd and we can only at best have a clouded, limited understanding of it.
But one thing I do know for sure is that I seek meaning in life. And I don't know how to find it. The thought of a godless universe seems so pathetic and pointless to me. So I choose, knowing the irrationality of it, to make the leap of faith and believe in God.
So what's the meaning of life? To know God.
>>709347610
This has nothing to do with my original argument on free will. You sir suck at arguing.
Philosophical lightweights ye all are.
People talk so much nowadays about meaning, free will, what matters. All of these are questions which are meaningless without first knowing who it is that is asking them.
The question isn't is there meaning to us, the question is what are we.
>>709342994
You made me do math for nothing you soul-less motherfucker!
>>709340711
democratic solipsism, we are each in our own multiverse
>>709349118
You just lost the argument. But I will explain it to you. If you had true free will you could do anything. You could not eat and drink and continue to live as long as you willed it. But you cant. Ergo you are a slave to your biology in that way thus you are a slave to your biology in others more sublime to your capacity to comprehend as well.
>>709348011
True. If we knew the location, direction, and speed of every molecule at every second we could predict the future of the universe down to the millisecond. Also, we could find the exact history of the universe with regression.
How does quantum mechanics and probibility play into all of this?
>>709348757
Well then helping the man up would be in your self intrest, but there is no moral prerogative for it.
>>709342782
Absurdism doesn`t solve the problem of suicide. Absurdism and hope cannot co-exist, so suicide just becomes a way to opt out of having to live the pointlessness of facing the absurd. Am I missing something here?
>>709345181
I mean, it is kind of like that for the alien protectors, although the species they come from is basically Australopithecus. Protectors exist to protect the bloodline.
When you get a Human protector, sapience comes into play, and things get interesting. If a monkey protector can out think a protagonist human, imagine how scary a human protector is.
>>709340711
we all agree there is suffering. some say it can get a lot worse than we can possibly imagine and last a lot longer than we can possibly imagine. some also say there is such a thing as cessation of suffering aka nibbana. it would seem to be worth some amount of study just in case.
>>709349730
Self-Interest reigns supreme /b/ros.
>>709347107
go to Mcdonalds and ask for a big mac
>>709349440
Then how did I loose the argument. It sounds like you believe that free will is an illusion caused by your biology and surroundings. I agree with this
>>709348890
Holy shit. That actually kinda makes sense.
>>709350283
for who?
>>709342994
I did the math and then said fruit
>>709350421
I don't know really, I'm not a philosophy major, but that seems to make sense to me.
>>709340711
To perpetuate life.
>>709349480
this is actually not true, cf mandelbrot and chaos theory
>>709350557
For what purpose? We will just live some 80 odd years and then die and be lost to history. Do what if we have children? They will just experience the same pointless life that I did.
>>709350421
For me.
stoicism all day everyday
also life is what you make of it
>>709350817
have a good life, a short one.
>>709350737
And life is perpetuated. How the living remember you is only as solid as how that memory is recorded.
>>709350180
I don't "believe" in anything. But yes we agree.
Free will exists to the extent of your capacity to enact your will. Any creature which has a construct of this universe which is required for the creatures continued function creates a situation where said creature is a slave to its construct. This includes programming, biological or otherwise.
>>709348890
Try to defeat this master argument.
Protip: you can't
>>709350737
same line of thinking. thats why the only thing i will leave in this planet is my memories. i wrote a lot of stuff in the last 6 years. what i fell, what i think and more.
>>709350948
How does thinking that this is a good argument in any way shorten my life?
>>709351161
you dont even show an argument for start. still, have a good life.
>>709340711
>objectivist
>Make my own meaning
>morals are how I create my own life
>evil is preventing people from creating their own life
>best government to reflect this is capitalism
Life is a lot easier when you come to terms with this shit and you become a lot happier also. Really no need to philosophize over trivial shit all day.
>>709351346
Thanks bro. I'm just trying to find meaning and happiness in my life. Hope you have a great life too.
>>709351591
all i can wish is good luck in your path.
>>709347492
Genetics?
>>709351438
Objectivism = Ayn Rand = Woman = Feminism = Stupid
Therefore, Objectivism is Stupid.
Woman can be philosophers, because they are all stupid.
Go back to Russia you commie.
>>709347147
Psh
>>709351860
oh, the genetics subject again. i will grab my popcorn.
>>709351918
>Ayn Rand
>Feminist
Top Kek
>>709351438
All modern philosophers have rejected Objectivism for a number of reasons. Science has disproves Objectivism. No thanks.
>>709351767
Thanks. Good luck in finding meaning in your life. I sincerely hope you discover what makes you truly happy.
>>709351962
>implying
>>709352048
Ok.... example?
>>709340711
>What philosophical school of thought would you consider yourself?
Disco acidhead motherfucker school
>>709351860
The genes that you have come from your ancestors, who faces the same environmental and biological challenges you did.
>>709352269
Same bro!
The meaning of life is shrooms and teletubbies
Nothing exists without me. I am god.
>>709352058
>all i can wish is good luck in your path.
well, i find happiness when i am alone. for example, last week i walked 2-3 hours in the dunes (a big desert in reality) and i really enjoyed to stay alone. No woman, no money, nothing. Just me and my handbook, making notes and writing my thoughs on a paper. I think you should do that, if you happen to live near a big desert or a small one, with dunes. No headphones, no cellphone, no nothing. Just you, a bottle of water, a handbook, a pen and your mind. I love to do that sometimes.
The meaning of life is to serve God
>>709352048
>Science has disproves
>>709352632
Has disproved, look at your keyboard, oh look the key s and d are right next door. Faggot.
>>709352533
I live in the Canadian northwoods, with my wife and children. I own just over 9000 acres, and I love to hike through the woods, reading a good novel about life or just finding a good log, and sitting and thinking. I've come to believe that true happiness in life comes from the small and simple things.
The point of existence is to further others.
Happiness is shared and only through sacrifice can man evolve.
Our own values are selfish and should be ignored, other than comfort everything we own should be used to help others.
also fuck off
Freethinker -Atheist
Life has whatever meaning you choose to give it. Think for youself and believe in yourself. Also, be kind to animals and other humans. Don't be a fucking dick.
>>709352148
>>709351438
>Supporting ethical egoism
Not even once.
>>709340711
Life has no inherent meaning, or purpose. Nothing holds inherent value. Individuals' lives may have individual meanings that they create or come to believe their own. Experiences may become valueable.
However, the only truth is our perception of reality. If you believe me to be wrong, then in your reality, I am.
>>709353022
i share this though. like i told you, i live in Brazil near big dunes (and yes, we have dunes and deserts here) and i walked alone. The best experience in my life. well, 9000 acres is a good piece of land to expend alone. I wish to not have a wife or kids, so what left of me in this planet is my writings. here is just a sample of how many hours i expended writing.
>>709353779
Wow, impressive. What topics do you write about?
>>709353561
Wow awesome counter argument....
>waiting in this thread for fucking ever for an actual response
After browsing over this thread and seeing how unhappy you fucks are compared to me... it is no wonder you have no argument.
I am going to jerk off and go to sleep... later
>Philosophy thread
The meaning of life is much like when you lose your TV remote. You'll only find it once you stop thinking about it.
>>709354555
everything. from politics, poems, stories, chronicles, everything. i happen to born in a shit country (Brazil) and here, people like to expend time in youtube (watching stupid people doing stupid things) than reading a good book. i sended my work to...i dont know...maybe 25 editors? i think is more than that. no response. i wish i could this for living (as a writer) and travell around the world.
>>709355217
now tell us the meaning of life in reality
>>709355304
It varies from person to person. Could be something, something else, or nothing at all.
thread dead?
>>709340711
The meaning of life is what it is. In other words, life means what is happening now. You should always accept your current circumstances rather than fighting them and being angry. Every moment carries meaning and builds your character and story, then when you are dead... who knows?
>>709355773
thanks for this anon, i liked it.
Do it for the lulz
/Thread
>>709355773
You sound like a stoic
>>709340711
The lesson of life is to understand what its like living in a game when you're the victim
The way is to grow knowledge(learning the lesson)
Thru pain and pleasure we find peace with memory
Why does it matter to you?
It doesn't, get in my way and i will remind you peace when i give you pain then you will find pleasure in you memory knowing it won't happen again because you learned something ie what its like to be the victim
From there we realise we could had patience and experience pain and pleasure in a controlled manor but we let our fear of acceptance and forgivness destroy the trust
Fear is what make not come across
>>709356031
uhh i like your line of thought but i got somewhat confused by the end of it
>>709355773
This is true
>>709342395
Solipsism is a belief that nothing exist in the universe, only your illusion of it.
>>709345726
Ego issues everywhere, it gets misconstrued as an attempt to jump the social ladder alot, i know them feels.
>>709355277
Hope u make it out of that Shit country full of shallow retards and become a writer.
>>709345331
Read Plato's Republic, fag
I believe in metempsychosis.
Apart from that, not sure how else I would describe my philosophy. A mixture of Aquinas, Deleuze, Nick Land, Aristotle, Marx, Wittgenstein, AJ Ayer, Marshal McLuhan, plus some Tao Te Ching to round it out. Oh and Schopenhauer of course, tho I also like the Upanishads.
I'm not really a philosopher, I just like to cause people cognitive pain.
>>709356585
this is the first thing i read in /b/ that cheer me up! really apreciate it, anon! i will!
>>709355905
"sick and yet happy, in peril and yet happy, dying and yet happy, in exile and happy, in disgrace and happy," thus positing a "completely autonomous" individual will, and at the same time a universe that is "a rigidly deterministic single whole" - a lot of the unhappy people i see posting on /b/ could learn from this school of thought
>>709356589
oh, that book. i love it. i am studing this book for about 2 years. writing the sentences, stop, think, and then writing down again. very good read.
I agree with Diogene's writings; however, I do not live by them:
>>709355277
have you sent your work to a literary agent? often publishing houses don't even accept work directly, but receive a lot of work through acquaintance with literary agents
worth looking into
plus when you do get your work accepted they'll help you with all the technical details like publishing rights and all that, and they'll work to promote your work
>>709356783
I think almost everyone could (and should) learn about stoicism. Really helps to deal with reality and the occasional bullshit life throws at you, without losing temper or composture, yet still keeping the feels online.
>>709356195
The end meant if you fear we lose memory and the cycle continues where people fight then forget then kill because fear of the future instead of letting him live, potential for positive reflection and would maybe raise better kids that won't go all kebab on innocent countries because their dad knew the meaning of fighting instead of killing which is stupid.
Killing is no fun its boring and a hastle
Living is waaaaaayy more crazy then letting your ego controll your life
Ego is just what your senses desire not you
World is fucked with egomaniacs thats why we have so many gays
>>709357003
never knew that. i send to a director or a manager, i even talk with some editor far away from my state. perhaps with this political instability in Brazil i could send my political work (with heavy critics) to some literary agent. i will take a look into that. i could translate some of my work too. well, im not a expert in this field, i just love to write. even now, its 2:44am here and i am writing.
>>709357284
Well said, I think a lot of people mistake staying calm for being a sociopath with no feelings and I see people wishing or pretending at being a sociopath in order to feel in control, although the feelings may exist, one does not have to lose temper or composure.
seeing as mankind is entirely pointless on any scale larger than our planet, and even here are ultimately inconsequential since we'll cease to exist at some point in time and be wholly forgotten by reality itself, i try to find some solace in the personal satisfaction that the pursuit of knowledge brings me. sentience is all we have a humans, so knowledge is the only thing of worth that we truly possess
guy from Brazil here. i need to work (and i hate that) tomorrow. Please, could someone do this thread again tomorrow? i really liked this discussion. hope to see this thread tomorrow. good night /b/ros!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kMdNkAcQx8
>>709358371
Bye
>>709357527
what kind of political work? if it's the right kind of politics, I might know people
>>709358371
>>709359161
oh damn hope he didn't miss this post
