I thinking on imigrating to USA, Switzerland or another european country. It's a good idea? Considering that I don't have any university education or job experience. But, I wil immigrate to work and study and I will follow the rules of the country, I don't wanna be a problem.
>>709319166
no, you can stay in syria ahkmed
>>709319340
I not a muslin and not a middle easter. I am christian and conservative.
If you have no job or university experience why would you think that would change, fix ur life there and then think about it
>>709319166
I hear Switzerland is nice. Their flag is big plus YOU GET IT!!!!THE FLAG!!! YOU KNOW? IT'S A BIG FUCKING PLUS!!!! YOU GET IT!!! YOU FAGGET SON OF A BITCH!!!!
Bitch you better not come to my country
>>709320051
Hmm... Because I am brazilian and Europe have better conditions of live, job, infrastructure and this stuff. And many of the world's best universties are there. And I heard that the education is free and they give scholarships.
Think about... Europe accepted thousands of African refugees, why they do not accept me if I'm white and of german descent?
(Sorry for my bad english).
>>709320402
>>709320402
AHAHAA
You accepted a bunch of muslim freaks, terrorists and rapists and the problem is I?
Eurocornos são puro lulz! kk
>>709319166
I moved to Zurich once.
Good luck. Not as easy as you think. ...one of the more difficult countries to move to, in fact. not aided by the "language".
Especially, look, if you're uneducated you can forget it.
>>709320909
What is your profession?
>>709320699
Make brazil better, don't make it worse by being the one who wants for a better home and leaving it.
This is actually the fundamental problem with migration. When a place is less than great, and the good people just up and leave, that leaves behind a fucking irreparable disaster for the country and the world to deal with.
>>709321383
>Make brazil better, don't make it worse by being the one who wants for a better home and leaving it.
Oh boy... Did you know the Brazil's problems? I would need to be a dictator to change something...
>>709321049
Mechanical designer.
I could communicate with engineers and architects and the bankers.
I couldn't buy groceries, order a pizza, or shop for apartments to save my life. Then, fucking hell m8, still an illegal immigrant and had to stay silent whenever anyone walked in to visit the office. I was like, fuk, should have learned der shveetzer-deetzer before I moved here, I'll get a book... OH LOOK AT THAT, it's not a written language. Well what the fuck kind of language isn't a writ... ok I'll take a class... OH IT"S NOT A TAUGHT LANGUAGE lolololol fucking crazy swizz confederation isn't even really a country, it's simply an agreement like 5 cities once made to stop warring against each other... the countries name is an insult the Germans called it, "the Sweaty people" "SwitzerLand" THE SWEATY LAND. Insane that it became one of the most awesome places on earth, cause everything about it is totally weird once you dig into it. Damn good people though. i miss it every day.
>>709319166
Switzerland is known for being xenophobic and difficult for foreigners to settle in. I've heard it's also very difficult to find a job as a non-Swiss since apparently firms are forced to hire Swiss people, except if they can't find someone with the exact skills or qualifications they are looking for among the Swiss population (and they have to prove it). Also if you don't speak German just forget about it already.
Go to the Netherlands. More open minded, way easier to settle in. Also, speaking Dutch is not necessarily required to find a job there since everyone speak English. And the girls are beautiful. And weed is legal.
>>709319464
The only way you would ever want to come here, is if Trump wins the election.
>>709321889
They don't speak english, german and french too?
>>709319166
USA is not in Europe, you cunt.
>>709322060
Yeap, I don't wanna be in US if Hillary get elected. Kek.
>>709322167
I KNOW IDIOT! THAT IS WHY I WROTE THAT I THINKING ON IMMIGRATE TO USA OR EUROPE.
>>709321729
Yes, I know. But realize, a century ago, nearly all european countries, were still run by KINGS. Shit changes fast when a new generation gets behind an idea and populates enough positions of power. Of course it helps when shit goes so wrong you have no choice but to finish destroying and rebuilding your entire civilization.
But yeah, the longer Brazil goes on, the more people are going to demand change. That's the actual reason the Soviet Onion crumbled. The people wanted jeans, playboys and rock and roll, and eventually got sick of the chaos of working for an old generations dying dream.
It's going to happen in Brazil. You care, and you should be part of it.
>>709322302
Not everyone is a american that only knows their own country, faggot.
>>709321904
It's easy to immigrate to Netherlands?
I wanna be a pilot, so if I if I take the brevet could travel to many countries
>>709322302
> I thinking on imigrating to USA, Switzerland or another european country
> USA [...] another european country
>>709322344
You are saying that because you think I gonna ruin your country?
Hehe.
Unfortunately many Brazilians who travel abroad end up ruining the reputation of the country.
>>709322117
We do, fuckboy, but we still don't socialize with outsiders... or our own people... or ourselves. That's why it's hard
>>709322802
>Switzerland or another european country
SWITZERLAND OR
SWITZERLAND, SWIT-ZER-LAND
I made a distinction between Switzerland and USA, but you are to dumb to realize.
>>709319166
We dont want you here. Stay away from swiss
>>709320699
Nothing is free here! It is fucking expensive!
Also this:
>>709320909
>>709323010
Hey, calm down. There's no need to be mad. Now you know it's not there. You live and you learn.
stay where you are seu corno
>>709322117
some people do
some dialects
some of the time
if you're lucky you might run into one of them, and they might feel like sorting your barkeri-purchasing situation out so you can get out of there without the old woman coming after you with her wooden spoon. Seriously. The swizz like their well-ordered culture, and there's a lot of nuance to learn, and almost no way of learning it except to fuck it all up and make a mess of it every day. Makes you kind of paranoid that everybody hates you after a while. They might, but you won't actually know, because they're stoic and polite as fuck and will put up with a lot before they snap and tell you to sort yourself out and quit screwing everything up for everyone around you, at which point, you will want to kill yourself.
Coming from an expressive culture like Brazil, it will be an indescribable change. I came from a small Norwegian town, already pretty reserved, and felt like a damn idiot. Realize, being seen laughing in public there is seen as a sign of stupidity and foolishness, and only an idiot does so in front of strangers.
Quite a change you're looking at making.
>>709322979
>We do, fuckboy, but we still don't socialize with outsiders... or our own people... or ourselves. That's why it's hard
Ok, I don't like to socialze anyway... I only want to be quiet on in my corner.
>>709322680
Definitely easier than Switzerland anyway
fuck off we're full
>>709319166
Switzerland is a great country (I live). But all is expensive and Switzerland are shy. But there are only 0.03% unemployment and it is "easy" to find work.
>>709323065
But I will enjoy the european polical corectness and I will immigrate anyway. And you you will still pay me a college and your women will be willing to have sex with me.
stay where you are, eat beans and rize, seu corno
>>709323095
Brazileiro é retardado mesmo, sabia que era um BR trollando.
Ahaha, trouxa.
>>709323486
>trouxa
>>709323359
haha oh man, you're a bit dimwitted aren't you? i think you're confusing Switzerland with Sweden, which is a common mistake for low IQs.
we won't help you. we don't help anyone unless they can prove they're a refugee, and in that regard we're one of the strictest countries in europe. we'll take all the money you have first.
if you're not a refugee (and by that I mean legit fleeing a war zone), good luck. in all honesty i pity anyone trying to come here without a high level of education and a decent amount saved up in the bank.
you must be a really big betafag
>>709323100
>Makes you kind of paranoid that everybody hates you after a while.
I'm used to it.
>Coming from an expressive culture like Brazil, it will be an indescribable change.
Not really, I live in the south of the country, which was colonized by Europeans. I myself am a descendant of French and German.
>>709323699
>i think you're confusing Switzerland with Sweden, which is a common mistake for low IQs.
I know the difference between the too countries.
>>709323891
>too
the door is shut for good. you won't make it in paolo.
unless you're a qt brazilian grill with a big booty, in which case you can be my housekeeper.
>>709323359
You will not. In fact its not so easy for subhumans like you to live in this country. If you dont have money you, get shit.
You can fuck all the swiss girls... I dont give a shit. Most of them are ugly, and the nice ones are too rich for a poorfag like you.
>>709323891
* two
we only accept hot brasil pussys in europe
>>709324000
Go fuck yourself, you are an asshole. Nor should it be a real Swiss.
>>709324002
swiss girls are often absolute shit, it has nothing to do with money. but the good ones are amazing.
sadly that's like 1% of the female population. so glad i found a foreign wife so i can raise a family with the right values.
>>709321904
kanker, kom niet hier heen kankerleiders genoeg trieste gelukzoekers zijn hier al aanwezig, donder op naar bananistan
>>709323233
>Definitely easier than Switzerland anyway
And the jobs there?
ei gringo how you can read you are very welcome
>>709324348
fuck you stay away you parasite
>>709321049
OORAH
>>709324263
Wenigstens haben wir nicht zwei Weltkriege verloren, seu eurocorno.
>>709323538
Greece confirmed shittest place
>>709324507
imbecil
>>709324507
Nicht verloren??? Lul, ich glaube das dir fruaen vergewaltigt sind bei der Russen in ww2. Aber du habst recht, die Deutschers haben Europe drei mahl ehrkankert: ww1, ww2 und jetzt merkel
>>709324224
>swiss girls are often absolute shit, it has nothing to do with money. but the good ones are amazing.
You are the Zurich guy?
>>709324710
Seu pai, aquele corno. Vai arrumar o que fazer, filho da puta.
>>709324737
I not german, stupid.
search some work in big italian citys, there you can offer your cou seu veado
Fuck you nigger! Stay away from Swizerland. We dont like niggers here.
We are al rassists
>>709324929
it doesnt matter to me, i speak dutch, german french, english and russian, so stay mad peasantfolch, ich glaube das du ein idiot bist
>>709325000
"RASSISTS"
KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
I not even a native english speaker and yet I do write better than you.
>>709324002
That's true.
The only hot ones I met while there, turned out to be prostitutes. ...which is apparently legal, wish I'd have known at the time.
The stoic seriousness of the Swiss culture that makes it difficult to adapt to, is not a negative, it's what makes the swizzle people and country able to be probably the free-est place on earth. If other cultures of excess and indulgence had their level of freedom, they would self-destruct overnight. The swiss way is to be free as fuck, but pride themselves on exercising personal restraint and not using that freedom to anyones detriment. The question isn't CAN I get drunk in on the sidewalk and throw up on the corner (the answer is yes), it's what's wrong with you that you would WANT to do that, and make people deal with you in that state, and turn this nice place into a place with puke on it?
If there ever is a space station that survives the coming apocalypse of mankind and his savage nature, it will be the one full of swiss people.
>>709324842
seu perdido, tadinho nem a Isis quer vc, lixo fedido
>>709324777
No, I am, and that's not my post.
I thought the girls were nice. All my swiss friends said they were ugalay and had boners for italian girls instead.
>>709325192
True
>>709323169
Welcome aboard then, here's your rule set:
- Don' t nigger around
- Don' show you're happy unless clearly drunk
- Work hard, earn lots of money and never speak of it
- Don't speak to any complete strangers, ever
- In case of accidental contact with another human being, cut it short and be polite, then ignore the other person's existence again
- Try to learn swiss german somehow
You'll do great!
>>709325192
They see very educated and if I go to there I will follow the local rules. The guy cussing is just a troll.
About the women, there are the same in every party of the world!
EXACTLY THE SAME! Gold diggers, futile, promiscuous... It's on their nature.
>>709325077
Maybe you write better, but you dont stay in Switzerland, gringo
>>709325510
I can frame me in that. Thank for the hospitality.
Rs.
>>709325609
Cara, eu já sei que você é brasileiro, seu babaca, Até porque estrangeiros não escrevem "gringo".
>>709319166
Swiss here, if you dont have a degree forget it. Also we hate immigrants, especially Germans and eastern europeans, so you are not likely to make any friends or networks. Even expats with PhDs have it hard, and there is something called Inländervorrang which means that the job you want to get has first to go to a Swiss person. You'll be fucked and effectively scammed out for the jobs that you are qualified for, ending up doing lesser work.
I suggest USA or Germany. Germany takes everyone, and in the US people are open and friendly for immigrants.
>>709325793
>Also we hate immigrants, especially Germans and eastern europeans,
Why? But I am a brazilian...
>>709325735
ok here is your permisson and now go crowfound a ticket
>>709325784
Das denkst auch nur du, abgewixter spinner
>>709325510
Yeah, that language... I had heard there was a professor at the uni that got some funding from the government to try formalizing a swiss german language textbook and class a few years back. ...but of course, by the time he got the text assembled, all the words had changed again and it had to be rewritten. did that several times and gave up.
>>709321889
Haha, as a Swiss, that's the best description of my country I came along from an Ausländer ever.:D Also it's called Schwizerdütsch (shwitzer deetsh), but you were close. Should've bought a book and learned the language dude.
>>709326045
>Yeah, that language... I had heard there was a professor at the uni that got some funding from the government to try formalizing a swiss german language textbook and class a few years back. ...but of course, by the time he got the text assembled, all the words had changed again and it had to be rewritten. did that several times and gave up.
The Pimsleur course has the "swiss german" option.
>>709326045
Yep it's a living language.
Constantly changing. Like slang, but, a whole language of it.
>>709326109
You will hate me if I live there? It is a very beautiful country, which I know has snow, skiing, fine chocolates, Swiss army knives and banks used by corrupt politicians (including those in Brazil like "Eduardo Cunha").
>>709326219
You can try that. Make sure it's a current version though, or it will be like learning Olde Englisch.
YE OLDEN TYMEY BOOT DOTH NAEEEE FIT
And everyone will just stare at you thinking you're mocking them.
>>709323359
lol you are so wrong about Switzerland you'd be kicked out broke in no time.
>political correctness
yes we are politically correct. On international conventions and in business. come to our homes and we call you a Gommihals.
>pay you a college
Dude, do you know how Switzerland got rich? Everything costs a fucking shit ton. I am studying. I don't get paid shit. You have 20k on your account? good, cause it'll be gone in 5 months. 3 months if you pay for school.
>women willing to have sex
I doubt that there is a country in Europe where women are more frigid than Switzerland. But hey, everybody can dream.
PS: we don't want you hear,
Best regards,
Politically correct Eidgenoss.
I think he better goes to Paraguai
>>709326638
Ok, bye.
>>709326638
>Dude, do you know how Switzerland got rich?
Yes.
Nazi gold!
They are frigid? What a waste!
GARDEZ-VOUS IN SCHWEIZ
Ok, conclusion-to Switzerland he cant go. Maybe to Germania together with Syrian gays
>>709326937
Rrsrsrsrssrsrrsrrs
>>709325913
LOL brazilian? haha good luck trying to immigrate, hint: never on earth will you be able to. Borders are closed. Bring a shit ton of money and we will pocket it in our banks and allow you to buy a little house. But you'll only be allowed to live there for less then 6 months a year. No money? GTFO
>>709327226
kek
couldnt resist
>>709327027
eusi süessä muschis
Ask that mind quake guy who was so cool uploading videos for a while.
It's too bad he shut down his channel
>>709320086
Underrated post
>>709327263
>LOL brazilian? haha good luck trying to immigrate, hint: never on earth will you be able to. Borders are closed. Bring a shit ton of money and we will pocket it in our banks and allow you to buy a little house. But you'll only be allowed to live there for less then 6 months a year. No money? GTFO
I'm starting to get angry with you, that arrogant and disgusting people. We should treat you the same way.
>>709320086
9gag/10 made me reply
>>709326386
No education and money? yes you will be hated on every day. also as a brazilian there's zero chance to come in. Try germany. They are friendly and take everyone and it isnt that expensive to live there.
>>709319166
Europe is full. Go away.
>>709327263
Schrebergarten
>>709326937
kek. nice try shimon
I'm an italian physician who worked in the pasta speaking canton of Switzerland for 3 years, i also studied for a while at the houston methodist hospital, texas.. Dude i can esure you that if you dont have nothing but cheap low skilled labour work to offer you'll have a bad time, actually i think that they wont even let you in if you dont hold some kind of qualification.. Trust me emigrating is worth it only if it gives you the opportunity of growing professionally, you said you come from the southern part of Brazil, things are not that fucked up down there, just stay where you are
>>709327498
Come to Europe. We need all the immigrants just to troll the nationalists.
>>709327498
>>709327498
Nope. I also a european descendant, you fled away to Brazil on the second war, now is the time for me to go there.
>>709327418
As a swiss I'm not trying to come to your country, do I? I try to make my own society a better place instead of fleeing from responsibility like most emigrants.
>>709327586
>I'm an italian physician who worked in the pasta speaking canton of Switzerland for 3 years, i also studied for a while at the houston methodist hospital, texas.. Dude i can esure you that if you dont have nothing but cheap low skilled labour work to offer you'll have a bad time, actually i think that they wont even let you in if you dont hold some kind of qualification.. Trust me emigrating is worth it only if it gives you the opportunity of growing professionally, you said you come from the southern part of Brazil, things are not that fucked up down there, just stay where you are
Yeap. Maybe I should graduate before going...
>>709327586
this is good advice op. stay in brazil, no one needs your lazy ass in europe
>>709327814
But when you come here are treated with courtesy.
>>709328029
>lazy ass
Do you now me, idiot?
filho de uma puta, roubo e quer deixar a grana na suica seu miserabel
>>709327814
But Point out all the time how proud they are of [fill in the country they are from]
>>709328094
you are low educated. no one needs this in Switzerland, everyone has a degree and speaks several languages. Do you want to clean toilets in Switzerland? Sorry, jobs are out, the spanish and portuguese are doing that here.
>>709328297
exactly this shit. Stay in Serbia if you like it that much.
>>709328301
>>709328301
Prove that you are Swiss.
>>709328764
Ond wie stellsch der vor dasi das mache?
>>709319166
>>709320086
> Next door, big-fat-MINUS-Austria is extremely butt-hurt right now
.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIDV6a3vKMw
>>709328925
>>709319166
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>>709328954
>>709328985
>>709329032
>>709328954
It's a beuatful country.
>>709329101
**beautiful
>>709329101
Yeah, they did it right.
>>709329101
It is. But only if you can pay for it. PS: my flat costs 1900 CHF a month and is 90 square meter in an ugly house outside from the city (cheaper area)
>>709329075
>>709329220
If I graduate mechanical engineer is easier to immigrate? In fact, after this topic I'm thinking it's easier to go to Germany.
>>709319464
>Conservative
my sides, you have to be a liberal faggot to come to the cool europe guys club.
>>709329316
>1900 CHF
You much it is in dolars?
>>709319464
>I am christian and conservative.
They probably won't let you off the plane in the US. If you're unskilled, uneducated, a Muslim with dark skin and can't speak English you'll be welcomed with open arms.
>>709329404
it doesnt matter what you graduate in, you won't get a job. The best of the best from France and Germany go to switzerland with their degrees and they speak the language. Go to germany or portugal, that will be easier. Or STAY WHERE YOU ARE
>>709329482
Hehehehe. I know that the are leftists but I would be quiet and ignore it.
>>709329404
It will always be much easier to go to Germanistan.
But yes, it will certainly help to get a degreen in a STEM field, if you want to travel at all.
>>709329519
$1910
>>709329519
about $1950
>>709329551
Yeap. It makes me angry. They leave a lot of Africans come out of nowhere and raping women, do what they want and I need to fill millions requirements.
>>709329404
My BiL has two engineering degrees. It took us 13 years to get him into the US legally.
Move to somewhere like Denmark or the UK or Canada.
>>709329752
Yes, it's the same everywhere. They make special cases for people fleeing murderers, but, slightly less unfortunately, that knocks those of us that have been working at it for years back down the list somewhat.
Most countries require you to show up steeped in their culture, language, and ready to fill a job they can't otherwise find anyone to fill, or have a couple hundred thousand dollars in the bank and be willing to invest a percentage of that in their country first.
They want you to be serious about being a citizen.
>>709329861
Where can I study for free? I can paint me it black and pretend that I am Muslim.
>>709330097
Most countrys worth moving to, anon.
>>709329519
Really?
>>709330097
These immigration crisis is a globalist agenda to weaken Europe. George Soros funded many groups "pro-refugees"
>>709330134
I would like to know as well. I'm in a 2 year program in the US and it's going to cost me $60,000 in student loans,and I won't even have a bachelors degree when complete.
I want out of this country, for a modern society. (of sane people)
>>709329404
Thats correct, go to Germania and chupa o cou da Merkel
>>709330406
I hate to threaten your conspiracy bubble, but its a bit bigger than a one rich guy initiative.
>>709329655
Got one in jewnalism and I can travel whenever I want, wherever I want
>>709330522
But anon, if a rich american funds a group somewhere, everyone worldwide will immediately think like he wants them to.
Good thing there's only one rich american in the world funding special interest groups, and none others funding any opposing views, then hey?
lol
>>709330445
>I would like to know as well. I'm in a 2 year program in the US and it's going to cost me $60,000 in student loans,and I won't even have a bachelors degree when complete.
>I want out of this country, for a modern society. (of sane people)
This guy trolling is another brazilian. Probaly they pretend to be swiss and german above in this thread. Yeap... I understand why you have distrust with brazilians when I see a retarded like that.
But we are not all the same, I guarantee.
>>709330793
The green part was misquoted
>>709328918
Schachmatt.
>>709330134
Why you think this should be free free for you? Why for you as a foreigner? Thinking like that... You dont fit here... Stay in your 3rd world country where they treat you like the shit you are..
Op lives in the jungle, maybe he is a betafag
>>709330793
Wait, so you're saying I'm another brazilian, and a swiss guy from above, and a german guy from above?
Is all of 4chan actually one other person trying to fool you anon? Is everything everywhere a conspiracy against you?
Take less drugs, anon.
Or more. Just, whatever you do, take an amount of drugs that is not the amount you're taking right now.
>>709331014
>>709331048
Você não desiste, filho da puta? E ainda fala mal do próprio país?
Vá tomar no cu.
>>709331085
>Take less drugs, anon.
>Or more. Just, whatever you do, take an amount of drugs that is not the amount you're taking right now.
lol
good advise, but if everyone did that, /b would become a very quiet place
Okay, this thread did not serve me for nothing. But thanks to those who helped, and who cursed me stick your finger in the ass and turn.
>>709330793
who is trolling? What are you talking about, one guy showed you his fucking view from his home. Want me to speak schwizerdütsch du hüere brasilianer fuzzi?
>>709331014
that's the sentiment of most people that try to immigrate in Europe.
>>709331048
He certainly is. Otherwise he could work in brazil. He's a faggot with a PC, that's it.
>>709331289
In Switzerland that help would have cost $450 for 1 hour. You are welcome. Now GTFO
>>709331289
Come bosta boiola
>>709331478
>He certainly is. Otherwise he could work in brazil. He's a faggot with a PC, that's it.
So what?
>>709331656
So you are a useless filho da puta and nobody wants you. go sell drugs you lazy fag
>>709327457
Zürich is full of Brazilian people, shit load of illegals too.
>>709331289
Obrigado por nos envergonhar seu animal, não importa onde você vá você vai ser sempre um merda porque você é burro e preguiçoso, e o destino dos burros e preguiçosos é viver essa vida de merda que você vive.
>>709331967
Envergonhar? Você está falando sério, filho da puta? Agiu como um macaco o fio inteiro e quer falar merda.
Vá se foder, seu bosta.
>>709331939
You are saying that brazilians are cheat?
>>709332098
lol um completo animal, não sabe nem se comunicar direito, você merece ser o merda que é.
Vai tomar no seu cu OP. Primeiro faz 18 anos e depois vem comentar que quer imigrar com esse inglês merda seu. A Europa não precisa de você.
>>709332909
Falou o cara que escreve "rassists"
>>709332909
Ele não sabe nem falar a linguá materna direito e quer ir para outro país, é um imbecil...
>>709333065
>Ele
Falando sozinho, autista?
>>709333065
>linguá
Vá se foder, seu merda.
>>709332130
There are enough overstayed visas or plain illegals that police specifically check for Brazilians
>>709319464
Austria is probably a better choice. last time I visited I got the impression that the country was generally more conservative than the rest of Europe, with the exception of Vienna and a few other "liberal" enclaves. but because of this it's also a very boring and old country otherwise.
>>709333317
They talk english and germande too, no? Australia seems to be a great place.
>>709333499
*german too