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lava doesnt melt steel posts. 9/11 was an inside job
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It's not about melting the steel beams. It's about high temperatures reducing thier structural integrity to the point that they give. That fence post wasn't holding up dozens of stories of skyscraper, but if they had been while they were hot, you can bet your ass they'd have given
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>>709309135
w pls go
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>>709309135
fuck you think is holding up the chain link fence taint fucker? gravitas? lava is like 7000 degrees so your answer is bullshit just like your faggot life. KYS
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>>709309135
>giving a serious answer to a shitpost
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I want to see someone step into lava.
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>>709309697
>implying a 2lb fence causes as much structural stress as hundreds of thousands of tons of concrete.
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>>709311110
give up dude
liberals have their logic and cannot reality
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>>709309135
Still wouldn't collapse at freefall speed
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>>709311608
>[citation needed]
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>>709312243
[Physics 101]
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>>709312344
kek, i was going to say inb4 hurr durr common sense too
you liberals are so easy to predict
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>>709312476
No bullying pls.
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>>709308950
What if 9/11 was a girl?
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>>709311584
You don't even know if he is a liberal or not. It's not a debate of liberal vs conservative. It's not even about whether 9/11 was an inside job.

If you substantially heat up a metal, its load-bearing capabilities will be affected. It's a fucking fact
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>>709313958
only liberals possess this level of stupidity
It's a fucking fact.
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>>709311584
Conspiracy theories are typically a right and far right thing(hello global jewish and masonic conspiracy), not a liberal thing.
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>>709314227
you're the stupid ones with your religions and climate change denialism, the only thing you have against liberals are strawmen of feminism and anti-sjw bullshit
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>>709314284
>>709314470
more liberal stupidity
dont you have nigger spawns to feed and muslims to bow to?
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>>709310523
You'd catch on fire before that
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>>709314933
Haha you play the political pawn pretty well, friend.
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>>709313002
But if 9/11 was a girl then who was phone?
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>>709315370

you play the apolitical pawn pretty well, fag
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>>709309135
This guy is correct, steel loses 70% of its strength at only 50% it's melting point
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Don't know if shitpost, or genuine
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why didn't all the debris get pushed outwards by the strong central columns?

It collapsed in on itself rather than the floors sloughing off the center
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>>709309135

what about the fact that like fking 500 skyscrapers have been burnt to fucking crisps by fire and none have ever fallen because of it in the history of like fkin 100 years.

oh did i mention most of them put in new fucking drywall and are still in use today?
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>>709315577

except for the fact that like 500 fking skyscrapers have burnt to a crisp in history and not a single 1 has ever fucking fallen because of it.

90% of them are still in use today after putting in some more fkin drywall and paint.
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>>709314983
It's possible for a fraction of a second
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>>709316636

>what about the fact that like fking 500 skyscrapers have been burnt to fucking crisps by fire and none have ever fallen because of it in the history of like fkin 100 years.


did any of those 500 skyscrapers also have a jet slam into them at like 600 miles per hour? because i'm no engineer but i feel like that could compromise the structural integrity of the skyscraper
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>>709316746
did those skyscrapers also have a 747 crash into them?
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>>709316636
>like fking 500 skyscrapers
Name one.
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the real question is, howcome bush's brother owned the companys making military thermite and guess what was found all over the collapse?

howcome thermite would cause the buildings to literally fucking shit themselves out of existance as what happened.

am i saying sand niggers where not involved? sure they where, and they had help.

who else would blow up the cia and banking database of building 7 to remove all evidence of fuckery.
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>>709316891

pretty sure some thin fucking aluminum cannot fuck with like 100 5 feet thick steel iron fuckin shits you dumb nigger, it fucked up the outer mesh some sure, because those are like 1ft thick steel, but guess what happens to aluminum after it hits that fuckin shit.

oh it gets fucked right in the ass.
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>>709316746
Jet fuel burns at an odd ~2000 degrees F, no? Generally speaking, that's a lot higher than a fire sourced from wood and drywall
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>>709316891
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>>709316891
>>709316981
okay but how would that affect the strong central columns hundreds of feet below the impact

The floors should have fallen off leaving an immense concrete-shrouded support column, how does a little airplane fuel burn away that much concrete to weaken the entire support column?
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>>709317144

i'm pretty sure 500,000 pounds of "thin fucking aluminum" travelling at 500 miles per hour will do a little more damage than just fucking up the outer mesh
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>>709317144
And then a jet fuel fire erupts, burning in the thousands of degrees, weakening the structural integrity of surrounding support structures
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>>709317144

ever seen a fucking bullet hit some kevlar?

thats a pretty solid big piece of metal moving 2000ft per second, much faster than a 500mph plane and kevlars alot weaker than huge as fuck steel shits protected by an outer layer of 1000 steel shits.
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>>709316829
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If the towers did fail due to steel beams being heated, then the top part of the building would have fallen to the side which the plane hit, due to the damage and heat being mostly on that side.

They didnt. Both towers collapsed perfectly into their own footprint. It takes dozens of hours of setup, and years in engineering study to make a tower fall like that.

Look up any accidental building collapse. There are plenty on youtube. None will EVER collapse into their own footprint.

Then look up any controlled demolition. They all fall straight down just like the towers.

They were fucking pulled down explosives. I studied engineering, and i will never believe an accident made them collapse like that.
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>>709317404

do u realize how much that fucking building weights u dumb nigger.

go make a fucking paper airplane out of coke cans and throw it at your microwave at 600mph
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>>709313002
Would be the only time she would go down on you
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>>709317462
Kevlar is made to disperse the impact of a bullet. The same is not true of a skyscraper vs a plane. Moving at 200+ miles an hour, most things do not behave in their typical way. A piece of straw can penetrate a tree at fast enough speeds.
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>>709317404
>>709317444
No planes or fire hit building seven
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>>709317656

>go make a fucking paper airplane out of coke cans and throw it at your microwave at 600mph

stop pulling these shitty metaphors/analogies out of your ass. the situation you describe is not comparable to a 500,000 pound jet slamming into a building at 500 mph
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>>709317144
Force = Mass x Acceleration.
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>>709317379
Uh because although the planes hit many stories up, they impacted low enough that the weakened steel caused the upper portion of the tower to collapse which caused all of the floors below to give way.
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>>709317762

why would they even bother destroying tower 7 if the shit was an inside job? nobody gave a fuck about tower 7 falling. the two main towers were all that mattered.
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Remember on 9/11 when the world found out the USA was too dumb to put even a single camera outside the pentagon?

It's the headquarters of the dept. of defense and nobody thought to put a single security camera there!!!

HOW DUMB ARE AMERICANS??
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>>709316891
Empire state building. Nigger still got a plane up it
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>>709314284
Actually this is very likely to be correct.
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>>709317762
I'm only referring to fire vs steel beams. I'm not debating if 9/11 was an inside job or whatever. It could have fucking been, it just gets on my nerves when people ignore obvious shit about heat affecting the integrity of steel.
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>>709317908

except for the fact that build 7 was the datebase for the cia and big banks which probably retained them these last 20 years as money printing assholes.
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>>709317920
Actually there's a lot of cameras that caught it. The Pentagon won't release the extra footage though.
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>>709317920
Footage has to be released 2021. 20 year disclosure or some shit. Foil hats are going to demand it
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>>709317908
Tower 7 and the trade centers all had a hefty insurance cover on them. Which all got paid out.

In actual fact, they admitted they pulled building 7 on the same day the towrers collapsed. What they didnt tell you was that there was an entire fire crew in the building when they did it.
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>>709317920

or like how they let a slow ass airliner crash into the pentagon after knowing there are hijacked aircrafts in the air crashing into american shits and after grounding all other flights.

but why the fuck would they sent in some f16's or use their missile defense system.
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>>709311584
Right, Mr. Rigged election... Because conspiracy theories are often perpetuated by liberals along with other anti-logic and anti-science positions.
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>>709315553
Oooh such biting words. Truly the political process has much to learn from your rapier wit.
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>>709309697
>doesn't know how the basics of tensile strength and heated objects
>attempts to make logic where there is none
go back to bed, but first, think really hard about going back to high school, okay?
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>>709318431

cry more, faggot
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Also there is no fucking way 4 hijacked planes even got near a fucking capital city without being shot down. That alone is such bullshit
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>>709318350
The two things I always hear are that it was too late to scramble the jets into range, or they didn't want to blast a civilian airliner due to backlash.
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>>709318501

shut up you autistic virgin
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>>709318591
Cocksucker.
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>>709318561
And you actually believe that garbage?
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>>709318537

easy for you to say. there's no precedent for shooting down a hi-jacked passenger jet in the US. imagine you're the person who has to order the shooting down of civilian passenger plains for the first time in the country's history, especially during all the chaos and conflicting information that would've been going on that morning. not an easy decision.
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>>709318561

pretty sure that nigger building has like lawn mounted hellfire missile lauchers for shitting niggers assholes and there was a big ol osamaplane comin right 4 em.

what muricans realy woulda done is be like "its comin right 4 me" and pushed the fkin red alert 2 fire shit niggers buttons
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>>709318591

>projecting
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>>709318685
Do you realize how bad it would look to blast an airliner?
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>>709318719

imagine when you know its hijacked and about to crash into a fkin shits with more people in it.

i think that makes it pretty fkin easy, especialyl when your in the pentagon and have that ability to shoot it down and itsa comin right 4 ya.
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Anyone that still believes that crashing an airplane would efficiently demolish a skyscraper to the ground is a top tier retard.

Now, anyone that believes that you could pull TWO perfect demolitions with that more than doubtful "method", well... is just fucking pathetic.
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>>709316891
>not knowing that the building was built to withstand exactly that. (Towers were built to withstand a Boeing jet(s). “I designed it for a 707 to hit it”, Leslie Robertson, WTC structural engineer. “Could probably sustain multiple impacts of jetliners”, “like a pencil puncturing screen netting” Frank De Martini, deceased Manager of WTC Construction & Project Management. “As far as a plane knocking a building over, that would not happen.” Charlie Thornton, Structural Engineer.)
>not knowing about building 7 collapsing for no reason
>not knowing some of the "hijackers" passports were found intact on ground some how, or better still were still alive as it was not even the person in the passport.
>not knowing that the "plane" that crashed into the pentagon did not hit a single street light or leave a shred of wreckage.
>not knowing nanothermite was found at ground zero
>mfw
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>>709318308
Source? Would like to read more into that one
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>>709318719
That by itself would be a fair assumption. But all the facts presented together just dont add up. There are too many holes in too many parts of the story
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>>709308950
jet fuel can melt steel beams and the outer layer of that lava is much cooler than the inner core, hence why it is not melting the fence.
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>>709318761
Probably as bad as invading Iraq on bullshit intel
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>>709316636
the plane also bent it
im sorry anon, this isn't Grand Theft Auto, tensile strength,friction, heat, gravity--fuck, even wind played a role
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>>709318841

>imagine when you know its hijacked and about to crash into a fkin shits with more people in it.

what if you didn't know it was hijacked, or if you knew it was hijacked you didn't know it was going to crash into something? most hijackings of civilian planes turned into hostage situations, not suicide bombings.
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>>709318761

do u realize how bad it looks when your the guy tahts supose to shoot it down b4 it hits more shits with more niggers in it and the nigers in the plane about to die anways because its gunna nigger fuckin cock into some shit?

are u fucking autist?
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>>709318880

the Titanic was designed to be unsinkable, sank on its first voyage. was that an inside job too? just because it was "designed" to for a 707 to hit doesn't necessarily mean it wouldn't collapse anyway.
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>>709317575
>then the top part of the building would have fallen to the side which the plane hit,
One of the two the whole top did topple over.
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>>709316636
full load of kerosen burning maybe ?
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>>709319025

except for the fact that all other flights where grounded and theres been like fkin ones crashin into niggers n shit all day.

hmmmmmmmmmm
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>>709318880
>>not knowing about building 7 collapsing for no reason
other than having a 10-story hole ripped deeply into it, and being on fire all day long
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>>709319025
You're saying the pentagon didn't know about the attacks when the second plane hit on live tv 30 mins before the pentagon was hit?
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>>709319141

titanic wasnt designed for it to go fkin hit giant ass nigger ice, maby designed to hit some icecubes. plus that was in like 1600's
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>>709319358

again, its very easy for you to review the facts in hindsight and make it seem like the obvious answer should've been to shoot down the planes, but i highly doubt you know what information was available to the people in charge on that morning and how the decision-making process was carried out. i'm pretty sure the whole thing was way more of a confusing clusterfuck than you're making it sound like
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>>709319514
>1600's
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>>709317756
we are talking about a straw here
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>>709319465

i'm saying i don't know what the pentagon knew or didn't know, i'm not aware of what information they had available and who was handling that information, etc.
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>>709318926
Id have to go after it, heres a video showing that Larry the owner of the building, and John Kerry both believed it was controlled demolition https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jbReTl3Uin0
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that think this think that, unlike street lamps and mailboxes, buildings are indestructible. these are also the people that play Grand Theft Auto too much
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>>709318880
This. The evidence is so stupidly overwhelming that I honestly struggle to believe that any sane logical person accepts the story given.
Not to mention the act itself was enough of a false flag (which the fucking disgusting crooked American government have used countless times before and since then) to go overrun those sandnigger countries to claim their oil or heroin or ice cream or whatever, not to mention any excuse to keep the trillins of dollers pumping into the "defence" budget.

If you fucking morons can't see the bige picture for what its worth you really are nothing but obedient sheep
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>>709319635
We have witness testimony about that actually, no need for conjecture

http://youtu.be/dVCDItOj6R4
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>>709319635

oh fuck, these god damn nice airline captains and all their lovely people are comin a right 4 my fkin ass at 600mph, i better not nigger them to shit.
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>>709318880
The infotainment era will be the death of mankind if people like you don't drown yourselves.
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>>709319141
>Olympia
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>>709317756
Im pretty sure the straw would disintergrate before it could reach speeds fast enough to do that
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>>709320011
I can't tell if you're trolling or dumb.
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>>709320153
this guy is obviously gay
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>>709320130
I may be mistaken, but they did something of the sort on Mythbusters. It may have been a stick of something instead a straw
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>>709320153
Kind of just sounds like you're too stupid to understand what hes talking about.
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>>709320153
if you dont know that taco tom cant beam steel memes
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>>709308950
yeah but what about illegal chinese steel?
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>>709320130
Jet winds can't splinter hay straws
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question

So who is guilty of destroying the towers exactly?
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>>709308950
Underrated shit post. Good job.
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>>709320153
Did you just give up or what?
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>>709320471
obama
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>>709320130
http://www.discovery.com/tv-shows/mythbusters/mythbusters-database/can-hurricane-winds-blow-straw-through-tree-trunk/

I googled it. I was somewhat wrong, but they were able to penetrate a tree with a straw, but only about 1/4" so my bad. Does go to show, though, speed can definitely make a weaker object much more damaging
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>>709320539
I responded twice.
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>>709317737
underrated pots
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>>709308950
Jesus wants me for a Sunbeam. 9/11 was an Inside Job.
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>>709320658
love those nips. any more of these?
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>>709317462
A bullet is much softer than a plane. A bullet is made of lead, also known as a very soft metal.
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>>709320742
This is Mrs. OP from last night but she only gave us the one tit shot
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>>709320471
an international conspiracy involving American CIA in cooperation with Saudi assets.

We can pinpoint the beginning of this relationship to WWI when British intelligence contacted Prince Phaesel Al Saud
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>>709320658

this bitch prob look like some halloween decoration good lord do not show more
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>implying a 500,000lbs object going 500 mph, hitting a building and slowing down to 0 within 7 seconds, whilst igniting an inferno, exploding, and adding 500,000 extra pounds on to of a building wouldn't knock it down

go back to playing Grand Theft Auto, children.
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>>709320011
no, we're not obedient sheep -- it's just hard to follow a dope like yourself, with his head far, far up his ass. . .
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>>709320972
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>>709320815

and yet i can push a bullet thru a fkin coke can bitch
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>>709317144
This is so retarded.
That's like saying a few small ball bearings cant hurt my hand, while throwing them at your hand.

Shoot your hand with a Shotgun, see what damage those little balls can do when propelled.
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>>709320983
It wouldn't give us such a clean demolition twice in a row, that's for sure
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try stopping a skateboarder moving at 5mph
not to difficult, right?
now try stopping a car moving at 5mph
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>>709320011
>The evidence is so stupidly overwhelming
That not one person has be bought to justice...
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>>709321223
are you seriously that autistic?
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>>709319430
Explain to me how a building falls in exactly the same way as a controlled demolition. Not one single steel building in history had collapsed fully from a fire before 9/11.

>>709320011
Glad to see I am not the only one fed up of sheep.

>>709320068
Infotainment? I am giving you fact, facts that cannot be debunked. If you are trolling fair enough carry on, if you genuinely believe what media tells you please enjoy being a cog in a machine and live like the slave you are.
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>>709321320

welp a telephone pole has done that really well against cars moving 200mph, such as that one gay guy from fast and furious as well as ryan well-done.

and im pretty sure a telephone pole isnt as strong as giant ass steel niggers
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>>709320011

>hurr durr ur all sheeple

you're an idiot if you think the government orchestrated 9/11 as a pretext for invading Iraq or Afghanistan "for oil" or "heroin" (even though we actually import less oil from Iraq now than we did before the invasion and the CIA has proven they can dominate foreign country's drug trades without actually invading/occupying the entire country).

the government (dick cheney and friends) may have exploited/capitalized on 9/11 to increase public support for their wars, but they didn't orchestrate it. if they really wanted to commit a false flag they could've just had one of our civilian passenger jets get hijacked or blown up or something, that would've been enough to get public opinion in their favor and would've costed them waaaay less time and energy than fucking orchestrating 9/11.
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>>709321462
no, I'm English
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>>709320343
I think it's pretty well understood that he's repeating dumb shit from YouTube videos that only an uneducated moron would believe.
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>>709321214

i wonder why then these little metal plates people put in their jackets stop fucking buck shot and slugs.

you dumb retarded nigger
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>>709320983
These buildings - especially ones like the trade centres are designed to take impacts like this and still be structurally stable. And 500000 pounds - or about 250 tons isnt that much extra weight on a building designed to hold thousands of people and furniture and infrastructure. They design them to hold much more weight than they will ever need.
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>>709321107
A coke can is much thinner and made from a different aluminum alloy. The aluminum alloy used in jets are much stronger. I wanna see you try to puch a hole in a sheet of aluminum without weakening it with gallium
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>>709321619
Yeah, because the twin towers were wearing plane jackets, you imbecile.
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>>709321107
what does that have to do with anything? You can step into a pool and face little resistance, jump in from 200 feet and you'll break you legs and probably die. See, other people can bring up things that barely relate, too
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>>709318537
Everyone was tied up in war games.
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>>709321486
Youre forgetting the fact that people made a fuck ton of money from the collapse of the buildings alone - billions in fact. Not to mention the billions from the after effect.
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>>709321619
Not him but, the thin metal sheets are stab proof, not bullet proof. Bullet proof plates are made of about 3/4 inch of AR steel
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>>709321604
Me on the other hand, I rely on quality truth from the us govt.

LOL
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>>709308950
The colder outer layers of lava don't melt steel posts, don't be retarded.
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>>709321764

i could probably punch a hole thru it with my dick to fuck your mom you autistic faggot.
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>>709321791

technically they where, actually.
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>>709321937

even if the "lucky larry" meme is true, it doesn't prove US government involvement. larry was not affiliated with the government.
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>>709321480
>Explain to me how a building falls in exactly the same way as a controlled demolition
Look into it, they are designed to do this.


The basic idea of explosive demolition is quite simple: If you remove the support structure of a building at a certain point, the section of the building above that point will fall down on the part of the building below that point. If this upper section is heavy enough, it will collide with the lower part with sufficient force to cause significant damage. The explosives are just the trigger for the demolition. It's gravity that brings the building down.

Much like what happened on 11/9/2001
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>>709321929
I am aware of the extremely convenient excuse.

No sane military professionals would tie up all of their assets in war games and not leave a few based around the continent in case of an emergency.
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>>709321978

those are what i was talking about you dumb nigger, what the fuck.
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>>709316891

You could somewhat explain 2 buildings by using that "logic" of yours.

But sadly 3 buildings went down - perfectly - in free fall.

Tell me, why do people pay huge sums to get buildings down to the ground, when you can instead simply create a few office fires and a few hours later - perfect free fall and boom gone.
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>>709322127
No, that cladding is thin, you can stab a screwdriver through it.
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>>709320995
Because I look at the facts? That reply just proves you are ignorant and void of a proper argument.
Think for yourself, question authority.
Your system is so pathetically flawed you bow gave a choice of of an orange tyrant or a lying manipulatative scumbag..
Its past a fucking joke now. Most powerful country doesn't mean most intellectual
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>>709322316

cladding?

now your just making up words, shut the fuck up.
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>>709322185
The USA does all kinds of things that doesn't make any sense

-not putting cameras around the pentagon
-not having good intel but invading countries anyway
-investing billions into Islamic fighters in Afghanistan during the Cold War
-propping up saddam hussein
-knocking down saddam hussein
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>>709322286

>when you can instead simply create a few office fires and a few hours later - perfect free fall and boom gone.

that's not what happened though. building 7 was hit by falling debris which also happened to start some office fires. huge chunks of skyscraper falling on top of the building is a little more damaging than "a few office fires".
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>>709321486
No but it was enough to exercise alot of put options and make people stupid rich, while destroying evidence of all shifty trading practices.

The war was a younger fruit that day. The sweetest plum was what happend to the market for those with money.

Then it happend again in 08.
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>>709321484
What's the difference between Paul Walker and a computer?

I care when a computer crashes
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>>709322612
how did the lower sections of the strong column weaken? That column should have jutted up out of the wreckage a great deal, no?
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ITT we have the 2 camps:

Camp 1, The intellectuals.
The type of people that are already smart and use logic an reason to conclude.

Camp 2, The Wannabees.
The type of people that want to be smart. They read lots of alternative media sites to try and get one up on those that rely on mainstream media and common sense (common sense not to believe all they are told). The wannabe will look for any little shred of evidence to prove a 'fact' and overlook the many other facts to the contrary, because these are 'false flags' or 'shill'. Case in point 9/11. Osama Bin Laden openly admitted that he was responsible. This is overlooked but Snowden 'suspects' and this is gospel.

The wannabe will always be a dumb cunt.
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>>709321486
Oh they would never do that
>what is operation northwoods
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>>709321929
Wargames that oddly were the exact same concept as what happened. Planes crashing into buildings, including the pentagon and the WTC named in said wargame as well.

>>709322183
All well and good but no fire had ever ever ever before fully collapsed a steel framed building before 9/11. Look into that.

>unrelated pic
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>>709309135
You must be fun at a party
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>>709322932
>no fire had ever ever ever before fully collapsed a steel framed building before 9/11
The problem was more than just fire. The Building had been hit by a huge commercial airliner.
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>>709322178
But he is. Thats what people are failing to see. This conspiracy is so much deeper than people realise. Which is why people dont believe it.

All of these insanely rich people use their wealth and their power to influence global events to give themselves more power and more money. The average person may as well be an ant compared to them.

They have the money to influence anybody. They own the media. Literally. Which is why its never reported.

They pay out politicians who suit their agendas, and politically assasinate, or actually assassinate people who get in their way.

Pretty much every large corportaion or business or bank in the western world is owned by a very small amount of people, and smaller businesses that are looking to be successful get bought out very fast. A few million is a pittance to them.

If you had as much money as they do, you cant say you wouldnt play god as well.

Events like 9/11 is how they get their way while justifying the actions to the sheeple.
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>>709322858
only in a country as dumb as America do you get people calling eating spoonfed government lies being intelligent

I bet you think we never traded arms to Iran
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>>709322932
>All well and good but no fire had ever ever ever before fully collapsed a steel framed building before 9/11. Look into that.

Except it has:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XMTALBYRNA

But let's overlook that.
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>>709322612

You want to tell me that a bit of debris and a few small office fires result in a building coming down in FREE FALL and it looks 100% like it was pulled instead?

Shouldn't it have fallen a "bit" differently then? Like not symmetrically?

Or do you want to say that every tiny bit of the building was hit perfectly with all kinda of debris, so that the whole structure would fail in the exact same millisecond?

What people are doing to keep their world view intact. Fascinating.

To me it seems like someone wanted 3 buildings getting hit by 3 planes.
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>its been 15 FUCKING YEARS and you retards still argue that Jews didn't do WTC
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>>709323041
firstly WTC towers 1 and 2 were designed to withstand this as well as earthquakes. Secondly no plane hit building 7.
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>>709323155
>I bet you think we never traded arms to Iran
I hope that wasn't an expensive bet you just lost.
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>>709322183
>getting the date correct.
I disagree with your argument but fucking thank you!!
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>>709323266
Stop being a retard.
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>>709323181
That is not fully collapsed. You have simply enhanced the point I am trying to make.
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>>709308950
BAD ASS FENCE IS BAD ASS
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>>709316746

>burnt

eurofag from tiny pasty inbred euro island detected. KYS.
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>>709322932
Haha America is funny

"Hey boss were getting all these reports that hijackers are going to crash planes into several strategic targets here in the USA, what should we do?"

"Let's ignore it until the day of and have identically staged wargames"

"Brilliant strategy!"
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>>709323327
... There was no flaw in that statement. Nice argument Rachel
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>>709323388
Try imagining another 20 stories on top, do you think it might fall right down then?

Please stop and think first.
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>>709323181
That building didnt even collapse.. And it sure as hell didnt go freefall speed into the ground in an instant.
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>>709322894

operation northwoods never even happened though, and if it did happen it would've been exactly like what i said before:

>if they really wanted to commit a false flag they could've just had one of our civilian passenger jets get hijacked or blown up or something
>To this end, Operation Northwoods proposals recommended hijackings and bombings followed by the introduction of phony evidence that would implicate the Cuban government

an invasion of Cuba would have literally started WW3 as the USSR would've declared war on US to defend Cuba...and yet even the US government's supposed pretext for starting WW3 was waaaay less drastic than something like 9/11 (which allegedly was a pretext for the Iraq War...a much less significant war than the WW3 that would've happened if we invaded Cuba). it just doesn't make sense to orchestrate something on such a grand scale as 9/11 if the shitty little Iraq war is all you get out of it
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>>709317021
No one has replied to this yet, gj anon keep spreading the truth. Those who will hear it are out there.
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>>709322858
See >>709321985
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>>709308950
Here's a picture of Bush making out with the guy people are now suing for 9-11.

Anyone paying attention knew the Saudis were responsible immediately, they fled the country the same day as the attack when all other flights were shut down. The FBI obviously couldn't investigate while the Saudis' good personal friend George W. Bush was still in office, so we're just finally getting their permission to sue Saudi Arabia.
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>>709323662
They got the dept of homeland security, infinite detention, secret trials, nsa surveillance, drones operating in pakistan yemen etc special forces operating in over 150 countries
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>>709317908

because the same jew larry silverstein owned them all you naive little fuknut.
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>>709323241
>George W Bush is Jewish
The Jews were the only ones NOT involved
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Why would thermite be found everywhere? Well because thermite is made of aluminum and iron oxide and is indistinguishable in a large building collapse that is made of guess what, iron and aluminum.
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9/11 was an inside job
Both planes disintegrated without causing any structural damage
They basically fucking evaporated.
And then a short while after the buildings collapsed the same way a controlled detonation levels buildings.

There was no tilt
jet fuel does not burn high enough to melt steel beams
Its been tested,
the guy who tried to prove theorists wrong used a heat which was 500 degrees hotter and it still BARELY melted at that temperature.
You'd have to be blind to assume that ALL of the pillars and beams gave out at the same time when virtually none would have been affected and ALL FROM THE SAME SIDE.
If it was going down IT WOULD HAVE COLLAPSED DIAGONALLY.

The physics does NOT add up
The thermodynamics DO NOT add up.
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>>709323980

doesn't prove government involvement, just proves that the gov exploited/capitalized on 9/11 to push through all the crazy shit it wanted to
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>>709322612
WTC buildings 1 and 2 fell straight fucking down, collapsed into themselves. That doesn't leave very much debris to cause another fucking building to collapse in the exact same way
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>>709323980
Thank you!
Still a shitty little war?
It was the catylist for an outrageous amount of avoidable death that is still escalating now. The main winners have been the weapons manufacturers
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>>709324316
You
are
a
nigger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHSZMRR3OdM
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>>709318350

to do what? shoot down an airliner full of passengers? i dont know what you would do in that situation but i know what your mother would. here i'll put her on. hi jimmy! get off 4chin n do yr homework. tell daddy i will b late. mommy wuvs u.
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>>709324135

>The Jews were the only ones NOT involved

Let's play spot the kike!
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>>709323593
I see what you are saying there, the engineers and scientists say otherwise however same with WTC 1 and 2. Huge lists of scientists and engineers agree that none of these buildings collapsed in a way that proves the offical story at all.

>another unrelated pic (not enough pics on this thread)
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>>709324342
Send your findings to the DOJ and get a conviction, or STFU you cretin.
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>>709309135
>>709311110
>>709314227
>>709315577


Correct

But what isn't explained is the free fall which we saw that day.

I'll wait
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>>709324376

i'm sure you've watched videos of the towers collapsing, you can see chunks of debris falling that could've landed on anything within a 1 or 2 block radius of the tower

and tower 7 collapsed in the same way because they stopped trying to put out the fires after a while and just let it collapse in on itself
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>>709324500
George W Bush and the Saudi Royals were responsible, the FBI has said as much about the Saudis at least. You don't have to be Jewish to know the Saudi Royals are Muslim and the Bush family is Christian.
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>>709324342
Yes, the planes evaporated due to magic, they never flew into the buildings! Nothing else but steel beams melting from apparently constant temperature could've set anything off! Multiple floors collapsing wouldn't have any amount of weight upon them to cause a sequential effect!

You try to burn something with fuel. Now fly a fucking plane into it and five it a while. Tell me the results.
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>>709324582
>and get a conviction
not really in his power, dipshit
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>>709324869
Anyone can make a case, you dumbfuck.
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>>709324582
>not knowing how corrupt the system of his own country is
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So your video only furthers my point. To further that do you now how many charges would have to be placed to create a controlled demolition of the trade towers? Thousands of charges which would have to be placed directly against all the steel beams. So that means they would have been placed there during the construction of the building. That means thousands of American Union steel workers and other people working on the site would have to be in on it. It is logistically impossible
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The only solution is to fly a 747 full of people into an exact replicla of the towers
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>>709325034
not the same as getting a conviction retard
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>>709325069
We are not all idiotic Americans here, this is the internets.
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>>709324742
>Bush family is Christian.

KEK.

Now you kikes are trying to say Muslims and Christians were responsible for 9/11 while you faggots had nothing to do with it?

Nice try.

Tell me another one.

oooh! How about the one where the Germans killed 6 million of you sandniggers and we all basically gave you a free country?

And even after all these years, you faggots leech off us.

"If it ain't an Übermensch, it can BTFO"

Sad that Trump will most probably lose.

We lost another chance of becmoing free.
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>>709325137
I said send it to the DOJ and get a conviction.

Dickweed.
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>>709325070
There were "maintenance" crews working in the basement level carparks for weeks before the collapse
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>>709325228
Any chance they were doing maintenance?

Not in your world, eh Sherlock?
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>>709325075
oh yeah that sounds great. let's kill a hundred people or whatever and spend billions of dollars (in todays money) to build the thing again and test it.

except you forgot one thing. there would of course have to be an equal number of people inside the buildings. the people might have contributed to the fire in ways we can only imagine. running around like maniacs while they're on fire, from floor to floor maybe even.

all in all doable though.
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>>709325179
>triggered af
>>>/stormfront/
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>>709308950
u don't say?
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>>709325225
Like thousands of people havnt tried that.

Yes a government agency is going to allow itself to convict the government of conspiracy if it is guilty.

Are you retarded?
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>>709325070
Naw.

Plant explosives near the impact zone.

Then u can order the charges as you wish to make it look like the plane did it.

In all reality, if it was a terrorist attack I'd let the building topple, killing way more.

But not that building. It went straight down.
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>>709324862
Jet fuel literally cannot burn at a high enough temperature to melt steel beams, no matter if the heat is constant or not.
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>>709325448
Who cares if it melts or softens.
It went straight down. The plane didn't do it.
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>>709324342

the airplanes did not evaporate. there were plenty of pieces of them found. i saw some myself in person.
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>>709325170
I know I know, I could just smell the sweet smell of rage in that post though. That said I am not aware of any government in the world free of corruption totally. No country is immune from corruption.
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>>709325327
Probably not, they were most likely CIA agents setting charges around key support beams given the bigger picture.
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>>709316468
I don't understand how the central core didnt remain standing.
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>>709325426
Do you not think that they could at least go to the media?

How do you explain the fact that Bin Laden took responsibility?

Do you just put your hands over your ears and la la la la la la la?
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>>709324695
How much do they pay you for this bs? Why wouldn't the office building of fucking Secret Service, CIA, several banks and insurance companies as well as the fucking mayor's bunker have a sprinkler system?
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>>709325556
Sanguinius was a faggot who deserved it.
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>>709324742

jewrabs. jews and arabs are the same damn peoples. semites. sand noggins.
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>>709325576
>more likely
this is the problem faggot. you really think this is the case.
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>>709308950
Hey look at the back of the image where the lava has, in fact, melted the fence.
8/10 made me respond
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>>709325340
are you even trying?
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>>709325170

but you are bendover cuks of the americans.
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>>709325556
It's more to do with people having all this information but not once has anyone actually proven anything to the point where an arrest can be made. 15 years later and not a single whistle blower of the many people that would have been involved. Not one. Zero.

Americans need to learn that it just happened as it seemed and stop trying to look for shit that just isn't there, as it really isn't.
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Americans are too butthurt to admit: 911 was an inside job. Your government sacrificed its own people for political agenda, money and power. You guys are no more than numbers on a paper for your own goddamn politicians. Look in the mirror u faggets. Trump and hillary is the best you could come up with in 2016. You americunts are disgusting. I hope Putin will nuke your niggerlover asses.
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>>709325703
Of course it did.

It was all tied up in firedrills.
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>>709325851
I'm Russian actually.
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>>709325893
Please don't. Then we Canucks have to deal with the fall out.
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>>709325760
This is no place for facts, Anon.
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>>709325616
How do you explain the fact that even before Bin Laden came out and said that he was happy for 9/11, news reporters already accused him?

And then he just played hide and seek for 11 years riiight?

And just before ISIS came, he was "found" and killed. But they just "dumped his body into the ocean".

Such co-incidence, much wow.

Laden was bought and paid for, 9/11 was bought and paid for, and we all know who did it.

People who wanted to make america weak.

And so they did. By forcing us into meaningless wars with these sandniggers while other sandniggers leech our tax money.
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>>709325616
Media which can be controlled by the government.

As for Bin Laden, that in itself needs its own thread. There is so many "coincidences" in that family and where they were and what they were doing on 9/11.
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>>709326111
There is no help for you.
Please don't talk to girls about shit like this, they will run a mile.
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>>709325893
You, I like
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>>709325893

I say after this election we all storm Nuke reserves and start armageddon.
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>>709317737
Kek
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>>709326018
The whole world would go down on the shitter but yeah you guys would have 0% chance.

Atleast Putin is building big ass atom bunkers for his people.
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>>709326111
>People who wanted to make america weak.

I still don't know who it was. You guys need to keep these conspiracy theories like a good movie, make sure it works on dumbest possible settting.

who exactly was it that wanted america weak?
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>>709326231
>Triggered kike
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>>709324862
Are you fucking retarded?
Are you braindead?
Do you have ANY IDEA what you just said?
Did you even what you video of the impact?
And no weakening something BEFORE an impact is not the same you dumb kike, that is a false equivalence.

Are you ok anon? Are you feeling alright?
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>>709313002
Then I'd be the inside job.
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>>709325448
What about a plane full of it flying into a building, taking out most of its structural integrity and adding plenty of continuous damage? Or you think the inside job was so sloppily done that they quieted everyone - thousands of people - that was involved, yet failed to cue planned demolitions appropriately? Do you really think that the entire thing was a pinpoint enterprise of unprecedented scale, yet they failed in the most basic of ways? Or maybe, just maybe, the burning temperature of fuel isn't pivotal in the incredibly complex issue of constructional collapse, and the impact of A PLANE is?
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>>709325549
You moron.
Did you watch the videos of 9/11?
Im not saying the plane fucking magicked away you dick. But if you watch the video you will see, that the overwhelming majority of the plane disintegrated on impact not reaching the centre of the building.
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>>709326364
in what world is it that the people more afraid are the ones not building escape shelters?

no russia fears us so of course they're fucking building places to hide. same with the muslims somewhere in the middle east. we need to build caves for when the USA turns their wrath onto us.

we don't build shelters cause we don't fucking fear russia or putin. we don't build shelters because we'd rather die defending our land then hiding away until they fucking can-opener us out at gun point.
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>>709326532
Crew of 30 guys could easily set all that up over a few months.

People see construction in their office they don't care.

The rest was just clever but obvious as fuck.
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Look at what happened immediately after 9/11. "Right we have to invade Iraq" Why? Iraq had nothing to do with it. This is evidence that the tower attacks were used to motivate the public into going to war. I think it's highly suspicious.
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>>709326231
Maybe in America where most females cup size is larger than their IQ
Most other countries people can have interesting rational debates with people of the opposite sex as opposed to arguing about which fucking toilets they are allowed to use
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>>709326514
Flying a plane into a building is highly likely to bring it down. Not the most ideal way of demolition, but it would work.
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>>709326269
Agreed comrade
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>>709325893
I like you

>>709325722
He was a bit of a faggot yea, not as much of one as Fulgrim however. Anyway have a pic of Vulkan.
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>>709326758
Maybe topple but not crash vertically.
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>>709326691

>Defend Counrty by dying in your room with Kung-fu grip on your dick and weeb porn on your PC.

Kill yourself.
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>>709308950
Is that dinosaur shit?
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You stupid kikes who are saying your govenment wouldnt do something like this
WHO'S GOVERNMENT TESTED ANTHRAX ON ITS OWN PEOPLE, syphilis on niggers, radiation poisoning on hundreds of people on the nearby islands of nuclear testing sites post ww2.

THE US GOV
Those arent theories or conspiracies, those are PROVEN and you can research for yourself if you dumb fucks dont believe for whatever reason.
>hur dur my gov would never kill our own people!!!!
You're 60 years too late.
Hitler got his fucking eugenics ideas from Americans you stupid fucks.
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>>709326447
Investment bankers with money tied up in warfare. Saudi's, Rothschild's.
Dozens, take your pick
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>>709326722
You're right, for the wrong reason. The reason to attack Iraq was for oil, it was nothing to do with the terror attacks.

It was however done with this thought:

>The American public want a response. They want us to prove their safe. They want to see action NOW not LATER. So let's invade Iraq, with our CIA-gone-rogue leader in power. We can fuck him over and get oil. We also please the public.

Terrorist attacks were 100% legit non-inside jobs. The response was money and power exploiting the situation.

This shit has been kept quiet for ages, yet they couldn't keep the fact Clinton had his dick sucked in the Oval Office? Come on, son.
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>>709326697
If that were really the case, the entire thing would be unnecessary. You wanted an excuse and sufficient reasoning for further political action, you could've used the same crew and media influence to blame the ones you wanted to in the first place. There would have been no necessity of making a global spectacle involving planes and homeland security in order to hypothetically achieve the same goals.
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>>709326758
No it would not.
It has been tested many times, there is structural damage
but the building does not collapse.
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>>709326831
>I have to deal with a Truther in my hobby

I know the proportion of autistic idiots in 40k is huge compared to, say, a sports team, but fuck me you're retarded.
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>>709308950
I'm just impressed that a cyclone fence is holding back as much lava as it is!
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>>709308950
Thats not lava just a pile of boiled coke
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>>709326909
no that will never happen. and if it does, the whole world is fucked. this is about who is more afraid in general, with nukes just being the most fearsome thing you can imagine the other side doing.

we don't ever nuke anyone again except in retaliation and russia knows our retaliation would destroy itself.

and that is all we fear about russia while the russians still fear the might of our armies.
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>>709327188
Checkd
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>>709327050
It's necessary when u want global support in a false flag operation.
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>>709309135
I always thought this was in reference to the apparent molten steel that was found.
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>>709326722
This. This is the tip of the iceberg.
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>>709327022
>Terrorist attacks were 100% legit non-inside jobs.

Right. Some fucking sandniggers hijacked some planes with nothing but knives and flew it into some buildings, thus, totally destroying said buildings.

Nice fucking logic you got there.

Except for the fact that those towel-heads wouldn't even be able to drive a taxi properly.
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>>709327066
No, it has not. A massive airplane flying into a skyscraper will severely damage its structural integrity. Even basic architecture shows you how brittle the smallest miscalculation will render the entire core of a building. There are literally hundreds of variables involved in a destructive act of such scale. And again, not to mention the apparent incapability of the human factor that is implied in the 'inside job' theory.
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>>709325751
I was just simply replying to your snide comment with my own.

Ive done my research and came to my own conclusion based on the real recollection of events.

People like you are just like "hurrr the TV says it was Terroists and thats good enough for me! Time to go impose 'mericas freedom on some sand niggers!"
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>>709327397
Are you implying all middle eastern countries don't have airliners? Cause I can assure you that you're wrong.
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>>709327022
>The reason to attack Iraq was for oil
Don't forget the herion
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>>709327557
Yes, I'm sure those books (which are sold are a low low price of $15!) are THE REAL TRUTH.
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>>709327678
Naw. That was Afghanistan.
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>>709327453
Yes it would collapse. 3x. The third time. Doesn't even need a plane.

Cause Murrica.
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>>709309135
>>709308950
>>709310372
From a journal:
"There have been numerous reports detailing the cause of the World Trade Center Tower collapse on September 11, 2001. Most have provided qualitative explanations; however, simple quantitative analyses show that some common conclusions are incorrect; for example, the steel could not melt in these flames and there was more structural damage than merely softening of the steel at elevated temperatures."
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>>709327253
Absolutely not! The same effect would've been achieved if demolition were the culprit, and media would've blamed the same sources.

I am in complete agreement with the part that media warped mainstream views of the entire event. This very topic - 9/11, its scientific background, and the relation of the media to public perception - was the subject of my dissertation for which I achieved publishing in a journal. Yet, there are no pieces apart from sensationalist, radical, simplistic yelps that actually benefit the argument of an internal operation.
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This guy.
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>>709327642

Does you country have an airline?

Can you fly a fucking plane?

>Middle eastern countries have airlines, so terrorists could fly planes after hijacking them from an US airport. Totally fooling all security.

Right.

Bye.
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>>709327397
They went to flight school. They knew how to fly planes.
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>>709327120
What? Is it just to difficult to understand that there is something in what people are saying? Too difficult to accept? Or are you happily ignorant? Autist I am not but you are certainly showing traits of one, having the inability to reason and think outside whatever rules you have put in place in your brain.
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>>709313002
>Nothing more of an insider than the first woman president.
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>>709308950
It was already cold when I got pushed into the fence
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>>709327942
No benefit huh.

Go in front of the world leaders and tell them u want raghead oil. Ull be scoffed at. Go in front of them and say ragheads attacked and it won't stop, you got a blank cheque. Get a few other guys in on it and u now have shifted power in the global arena.

Not to mention all the shifty trading practices before the event.

No benefit. Sure. America could of just manned up and said they wanna take down the sand niggers cause it's America and noone would of blinked an eye.
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>>709315801
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>>709328204
Wanting to believe things that are actually true (as opposed to deranged fantasies invented by schizophrenics) is a very good rule to have in your brain.
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>>709311608
It did not collapse at free fall speed. One free fall is an acceleration not a speed. That being said I get what you are trying to say and that brings me to point to it did not collapse in free fall, as indicated but the shell that was sloughed off and clearly falls faster. They pancaking theort is pretty strong so I would find something else to attack.

Also, before you respond know the difference between static load and dynamic load. Don't give me jet fuel cannot melt steel beams.
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>>709327732
What makes you think that the TV and media presents "THE REAL TRUTH"?
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>>709328415
You're not understanding what I'm saying. My point is that, if it had been an inside job, they could've and would've achieved the same type of cultural narrative and politically aggressive one-upmanship without the involvement of planes and men with turbans on their heads. The easiest part of a cover-up would've been saying "hey those guys did it", whichever method was used.

There would have been no reason to inculpate nor include any action with planes if that were their entire, ultimate plan. They could've achieved the same result without any of that.
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>>709328542
>not knowing what a schizophrenic actually is.
>wanting to believe what he has been spoon fed buy the media. Media tell the storys the government makes them. I imagine you still think America is the land of the free and there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Wake the fuck up.
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>>709316636
The plane blew off the insulation. And no standing skyscraper has seen an explosion and fire of this magnatude. I bet you cannot find one example. There are different levels of fire just like there are different levels of stupid. You are top level stupid.
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>>709328951
No they wouldn't. Because it doesn't instill the same kind of fear.

How many safety blankets does the inside job theory burn if it was done your way all discreet? Now look what they did in comparison.

They brought fear to travelling, cultures, cities, streets.

Just doing it all quiet without spectacularims brings no fear. It had to be audacious.

Those were alot of systems. That all broke at the same time dude. How the fuck can u say it's not an inside job, or that an inside job would of been quieter and have the same effect.

For a journalist you lack of knowledge in human behaviour is odd.
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>>709317404
Nailed it!
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>>709328975

you seem to have an obsession with shitting on the average person for supposedly being sheeple. too bad we can't all be enlightened like you
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>>709317995
Yes a plane weighing 1/10 and traveling 1/5 as fast.
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>>709329595

we didn't actually gain any additional oil from Iraq though. but you could still argue that it was a war to maintain the petrodollar system i guess
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