I think morals and trying to be a good person is outdated and stupid, like religion. I think we should just do what we want who agrees?
Sah edgy
me
Fuck you Morales
Fuck your STDs
I remember when I was 14
>>709057069
I'm not a fan of Morals either.
Parker is the only Spider-man IMO
>>709057069
Youre either underage, edge to the max euphoric athiest, or just being retarded.
Come back when youre a bit older, champ.
>>709057879
I'm 19 and not on the spectrum so...
>>709058106
Without morals no one would have gotten anywhere significant, ever.
>learn to history, fag.
>>709057069
Without morals we become monsters. No thanks.
>>709058281
Gimme a example
all girls in this survey are 18+
https://surveynuts.com/surveys/take?id=112126&c=1285860985HLPP
>>709057069
I want to fuck your asshole.
>>709058525
All of history, since the ice age. Are... are you seriously that slow? I can't even fathom your thought process on day to day life, let alone deep thinking.
>>709058495 morals don't stop "monsters" any way and that shit is hard coded into people we don't just become monsters.
>>709057069
God shut up. No bc it's just something people naturally do unless youre a sociopath or autistic. I have an idea of which one you are.
>>709057069
>I think morals and trying to be a good person is outdated and stupid, like religion. I think we should just do what we want who agrees?
prisons are full of them..
>>709058525
>gimme a example
Your typing and grammar prowess just further prove you are a double nigger. Educate yourself anon. That is the best advice I can give.
>>709058957
You are insulting me because you can't think of a example. JUST GIMME A EXAMPLE
>>709057069
If this is a joke, it's not funny.
If this is an actual statement,get a mental evaluation test.
Also commit and make life one less retard better.
>>709057069
That's pretty much what's happening. A 40 year old man wants to shower with a 10 year old girl because he identifies as one? Sure, says the Left. But Christains who object are ridiculed.
>>709058957
Give an example.
>>709057069
>I think we should just do what we want
If someone decides to they 'want' you to hand them your cell phone, and empty your pockets, would you still be cool with that?
If you're chilling at home and some /b/tards decide they want to loot your eviscerate your father (assuming he's in the picture) loot your home, rape your mother, and sister(s), and cook your pets and make you watch, would you still be cool with that?
It would suddenly be different. Your beef is not with 'morals,' but with laws. Stay edgy, Cubby.
Morales are merely cultural doctrine. They are the operating system you work on.
Just do what feels right to you. In my case being nice to bitches and then fucking them raw.
>>709057069
do whatever you'd like
just remember, your freedoms end when they interfere with mine and that actions have consequences. :)
Femen needs a good gassing
>>709059609
/B/tards will pick up on that idea. Just you wait.
>>709059777
lucky 7 tripz, /b/itchez. fuck all y'all
>>709059332
You are that slow. Holy shit.
>civilizations base charters, rulings, and constitutions on liberties, freedoms, morals, etc.
Ok retard. Imagine this. if no one had morals. No one would give a shit. You imagine if no one gave a shit? Go ahead. Ponder that in your tiny mind for a moment. That means no structure, no rules, nothing of the sort.
We'd be running around(those who would survive anyway) shitting in our hands and have no infrastructure.
No modern amenities, nothing.
Like that cell or comouter you're typing on? 100's of years of structure in the making.
Jesus dude. Pick up a book.
>>709057069
if we do that what will separate us from niggers
>>709059644
nice little strawman argument
>>709059777
check'd
>>709059722
Wise man
>>709059644
>>709059777
>>709059899
These. Holy shit Op you are pants on head retarded
>Op, all this edge. No moralz iz kewl guise. Pls rape my face.
>>709057069
Everyone has morals they are just different. The girl in that picture for example has no problems showing her weird tits to people but probably thinks using the word nigger is wrong whereas a more conservative older person might think showing your uneven tits to people is wrong but saying nigger is ok.
>>709057069
Isn't it past your bedtime?
>>709057069
go for it faggot
>>709057069
Fuck your morals
>Covers nipples with pasties
>>709059777
Other people killing you is something we should all keep in mind when about to perform a action
>>709059622
Not them, but here are some direct examples:
America. It was created based on the moral though of John Locke. (Also the fleeing of the Puritans from the persecution of England. (Free thought was born from this event.))
The end of many dynasties in China, look at the Ming dynasty.
>>709060335
"your freedoms end when they interfere with mine"
jesus fuck...you're an illiterate fuck. :)
>>709057628
All grown up now at 16, quite the oldfag amirite?
Ok tough guy. Dont want morals? Go live in the waring areas of africa. See how you fair, fag.
>>709059899
No we would still have a society built on mutual want to survive so most shit would stay the same like research and extra..
>>709057069
You're fucking weird. Personal morals define you.
Even most nihilists have morals, even if the believe they're a product of society.
I've never been to church or a part of any religion, I didn't touch a bible until I was 26, and I can tell you, the bible's pretty fucking tight if you pretend every main characters a stand user, ala JoJo.
>>709060659
no. Fuck no. By the nine I cant handle your autism. Need for mutual survival was not enough. It was never enough. People across the globe fight, fought, and died so their fellow man could carry on and improve cultural diversity and advancement. For the love of all that is swoley, read some books. Read SOMETHING that isnt the Anarchists cookbook or Thomas The Tank Engine.
>>709060628
I can cause way more chaos from behind my computer screen.
If only you knew the destruction i've caused.
>>709061052
True true. Edge lords are almost always safest behind the screen. Same goes for me as well.
>>709057069
So if I wanted to hang you from a tree, you'd be totally fine with that?
>>709057069
you are free to do what you want. you will have to face the consequences though. if you are brave enough, go try it; i don't give a fuck. but you will likely regret it.
>>709061052
What happens if they cut your internet?
>>709057069
Fuck you. Trying to be a good person without religion is called humanism.
If we do what we want then I am coming to your house to kill you and take all your shit. How do you like you "do what you want" attitude now?
We need to work together to make the world a great place for everyone. That is called humanism.
SJW cunts need not apply.
>>709060659
>Social Institutions
The five are:
Family
Education
Religion
Economic
Political
Guess what propagates from all of these? Morals. There are morals/ethics when it comes to doing politics, economics, religion, education, and family.
Without these we would not have a society. Mutual will to survive is only part of our identity, when we construct a society, we have to have morals so we can all not kill each other to get ahead.
>>709057069
sure. doing "whatever you want" will lead to having to deal with the consequences of your actions which will lead you to beginning to form what are known as "morals".
Morals makes you different from animals. If religion is evil, it is necessary evil. The idea of getting rewarded for doing good or the fear of getting punished prevents people doing unpleasant things.
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>>709061530
Truer words have never been spoken, etc, etc, and so forth.
>>709061502
>humanism
It is applicable to anyone, humanism is not only secular. There is religious humanism as well. Naturally everyone who wants to progress humanity tries to be good. This is why we have revolutionists, reformists, etc.
>>709061530
>Religion
Fuck you you worthless trash. Religion is worshiping invisible gods who don't actually do shit.
Religion has nothing to do with morality.
>>709057069
it's not outdated. being a good person by nature is very helpful and positive for the people around you. and it's also stopping the people who are not good by nature from fucking you up like the bitch you are.
I say we need a return to a time of pure violence. maybe the euphoric shit talking will cease when there are actual consequences for people's actions.
>>709061686
Well guess i'll just go BEASTMODE
Im a motherfucking ANIMAL
A FUCKING MONSTERRR
Itt: Moralfags
>>709061896
HUMANISM, the word you are looking for is HUMANISM.
Fuck religion, lookup humanism, it's basically the idea that we sahould all be cool with each other and tell cunts (e.g. religion) to STFU.
>>709061836
Edgy mate.
I was referring to social institutions. Go learn what they are. As for religion having nothing to do with morality, ever read the Bible, Qur'an, or Torah? The followers of a religion often derive their morality from it. Ergo religion has things to do with morality for some people.
Also fun fact, religion can be deistic, pantheistic, monotheistic, polytheistic, etc. Worshiping invisible gods is only of the last one polytheism.
>>709057069
>I think morals and trying to be a good person is outdated and stupid, like religion. I think we should just do what we want who agrees?
so if someone kicks your ass or kills you for no reason at all, you're cool with that?
>>709060041
Strawman? That's basic logic. If OP truly didn't believe in morals, he would post his parents address, phone number, and any other personally identifying information for the lulz right now.
>>709060659
Mutuality and empathy are morals you fucking retard
It means you give a shit and respect others
>>709057069
Here's my two cents:
The world is full of shitty people, who still get alot of money. They don't earn it, they don't deserve it but they get it, just like thousands of people suffer and die everyday, not because they deserve it, but they still do.
At some point in life, a man as to think about what puts food on the table, and the answer to that most likely isn't 'morale'.
Now that we've established that, let's conclude:
"If a proverbial cake is being baked on expense of those who cannot resist, i don't know about you, but i'm gonna grab the largest piece i possible can for myself."
Life's too short to be everyone's bitch.
>>709062609
>Edgy mate
Fair enough. You're right, as much as I hate it many people take morality from religion. Which is terrifying.
In fact of all the social institutions you listed religion is the only one that predictably dictates morality (maybe politics).
>>709057069
What's a "good person"?
I agree that morality, like every other human concept, doesn't objectively exist, but you also have to balance the chaos with some amount of order to make it sustainable.
All good things come from chaos and from play. but too much chaos leads to breakdown, so you wanna hit that sweet spot of just enough order to make the chaos sustainable while while having as much chaos as humanly possible.
>>709057069
>a woman saying fuck your morals
Ok so how about I rape you because thats what I can do since I have no morals and I'm stronger than you.
Fuck, If anyone needs morals to survive it's females. Dumb cunt.
ITT: people pretending that vague, inherently incomplete arguments that rhey use to excuse the biggest time-wasters, the government, in their day to day lives are arguments why we should have laws that are currently in place, and OP's argument still seems the most likeable. Also, only stupid people's freedoms interfere with each other, because smart people like sharing and friends and sex, therefore they will always be looking to expand their group of friends, while stupids try to fuck over as many people as possible and are easily identifiable as such. You and I will change the world OP I promise.
>>709064290
If you rape her I'll rape you lmao
>>709057069
>trying to be a good person is outdated and stupid
What? So we should all just be mindless animals and be unkind to each other?
>>709064395
I appreciate your intent and I applaud you. But please learn the English language first.
>>709064633
My argument was not marred by my speed-typos
I feel sorry for you OP. It's sad to think that you, and others, are in a state of mind where you recognize right and wrong and yet believe you should ignore what you know to be right just so that you can do what feels good for you in the moment without concern for anyone else. It's sad that that is becoming a more popular opinion over working with others to do what is right and good.
This is probably all just bait, so most of all...I'm sorry I fell for it.
>>709065361
Fair enough. But typically the difference between slobbering SJW's and rational thought is clear in their writing.
>>709065553
Not bait, and also you've misapplied your argument, as people who reject their own likes and dislikes, which I see as right and wrong, in favor of moral codes that do not comply with these definitions are the ones that surely "ignore what's right and wrong" as you put it.
>>709065866
I know you can define sjw's, but can you define rational thought?
>>709057069
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>>709066867
Muh lack of definable argument
>>709057069
I agree, we should resort to might is right.
Gas the Kikes, niggers and queers, and chain women to the kitchen worktops.
>>709067311
Alright, what's the point of not having good morals?
You look like an asshole and no one likes you?
"Why should I care if people like me or not?"
You don't have to care, but you look like a lonely motherfucker.
"Outdated and stupid, like religion" That's asking for replies.
>>709057069
Thats pretty much Nitzsche. But you know that doesnt mean Anarchy or some bullshit right? Going by that standart the woman would most likly be hanged or raped, because if I dont like her running arround like that, there is no moral obligation why I couldnt stomp her face in.
The only hope she would have is having someone who likes that she runs arround like this, thus defending her.
>>709067623
Those with the most friends have the most might. Looters never have friends, the backstabbers of society, etc. Only the friendly people will remain. Those with ridiculous prejudices automatically oppose those groups they hate irrationally and lower their friend count, thereby decreasing their likelihood of survival. Hitler would still be fought in OP's world , and likely defeated, the U.S. showed that a nation pulling together beats concentration camp slave labor. As it turns out, "all of history" doesn't oppose OP's view but only strengthens it
>>709066143
What you've done here is you've made yourself god, so that you can determine what's right and what's wrong. That way life can be convenient for you and you eliminate your conscious, so you don't feel bad about doing whatever you feel. I hate to break it to you, but you aren't God, and you don't determine what's right or wrong. You do determine what feels good for you, I'll give you that. But just because it feels good for you, doesn't mean that it does for others, and it certainly doesn't mean that it's right.
>>709067719
I've only met assholes with morals actually. Care to make an actual situational argument? The point of having no morals is that people have emotional morals built in already in the form of likes and dislikes, and that morals as they now exist are prepared exactly so someone can fuck you out if your property WITHOUT having to break into your house themselves, I.E. unfair taxation being upheld by misinforming a voting public. This is an issue of prefabricated morality.
>>709057069
https://youtu.be/Syzc6_7cm9Q
>>709068259
Yeah whatever, nerd. You'd be in the first group to get fed to the lions,
>>709057286
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>>709059382
You all are autistic faggots and deserve to be shot google nihilism and look at the definiton you fucking tard wranglers
Also not op and op is a fag
>>709069039
>>709066867
You missed me, asshole.
If you're gonna call them out, call us all out.
No respect these days.
>>709068664
1. Prove that I'm NOT god lol
2. You presuppose my argument. I actually believe that all people have the same emotions, which do involve murderous behavior as a last resort. If emotions were law however, the collaborative emotions would win out every time and we'd have true peace.
>>709069039
So everyone is autistic for arguing against nihilism? Are you retarded?
>>709068986
Because you have lions. If that's not a flimsy threat then it's a flimsy assumption instead of concrete evidence or argument.
>>709069249
No u no u no u no u no u no u
>>709069561
When the fuck did I say that, im making a point that people understand what it is and its been around for decades now fuck off moralfag
>>709057069
well religion is bullshit and morality is subjective but I think the NAP is a good way to lead your life. It's the moral doctrine I personally subscribe to.
Sure, get over here and get your ass fucked raw, OP.
>>709069599
Pretty much every zoo has lions. Use your imagination, poindexter.
>>709070209
The National Academy Press? Specification would please here
>>709069336
1. Now you're taking the common Christian argument: the whole, you can't prove God doesn't exist argument. Instead you're spinning it to work for you.
2. I also believe people have basic emotions that we like to fall back on instinctively. I disagree, however, that letting emotions be the law of the land would bring about true peace. I believe the whole mob mentality would take over and it would be chaotic and evil. Everyone would try to do what felt good for themselves and many people would be harmed and many people would die because fear and anger would take over.
>>709057069
i think if everybody did what they wanted, you'd be dead in twenty minutes.
it's always those who claim to want anarchy who are the most ill-equipped to live in an anarchistic society. go back to your video games, tyler.
>>709070531
Non-Aggression Principle
I thought the picture would give it away.....
>>709070400
I have a zoo in my city too, and I'll bet my lions beat your lions because your lions would also be trying to kill you. I would not keep my lions in zoos I would befriend them. Zoos are the product of your presupposed moral stipulations
>>709057069
Morals don't matter as much as laws. You are free to do whatever the fuck you want. The only thing is that other people might not like it and then they might do whatever the fuck they want. Like kill you.
>>709070744
1. True, and it worked to prove that your "you're not a god" statement was, true or false aside, a lie, I.E. a statement with no preconceived notion of truth
2. Mob mentality governs now, under your moral doctrines. The U.S. party oligarchy is mob mentality, the moral doctrines (I.E. law) that you're scared of opposing are the only thing keeping them in control actually.
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>>709070869
Would you hold to the NAP if you were enslaved?
>>709071388
People only support laws if they like/agree with their moral equivalents, they are, effectually the same thing. It's their emotions about the laws that end up in control anyway, so why bother with laws and just make all emotions laws?
>>709057069
Morals do have a purpose.
They help people who don't know each other get along
But that's it. It's a social construct
Sounds like OP is struggling with a situation that is morally ambiguous. It's pretty fucking dumb to think people shouldn't have morals, I'm fact a lot of them are inherent. Take live and let live for example. You want to survive and they want to survive so best I interest is "not to kill thy neighbor". Now, if you want to argue killing the few to save the many that's a whole different story. Not advocating it but its more up for debate than "fuck it, I do what I want". Also, don't fall for the nihilism Bullshit. If you truly want to believe all that off yourself. Sure there may be no meaning but most of us find something. Read more Philo than just Nietzsche.
>>709072284
Sometimes they make people who don't know each other kill each other too, I.E. drafts
>>709071971
enslavement is rooted in aggression.
>>709057069
Someone buy that slut a boobjob
>>709072458
I like your nihilism view, but morals are like laws. You're treating them as though they are emotions, when you spoke of "inherent morals" but you also spoke as if morals were laws. Which are they, laws or emotions?
>>709071576
I never said the "law" was a moral doctrine. Additionally, I never said it was something I didn't oppose. I absolutely believe there are problems with the laws in place as they are. Unfortunately the law and morality will never be completely integrated, which is unfortunate.
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>>709057069
>morals outdated
>embrace socialism
>oligarchy of the intelligent inc.
>gas the inbred cucks
>>709072496 Not my fault, as you failed to define, even loosely, this principle. There are many definitions of it, more to the point I would ask if your version is non aggressive against agressors?
>>709072894
Morality can't be intrinsic in my opinion. There's always some self interest or preservation that drives. Even if you are doing something for the sake of being good, it's still because of the way it makes you feel. I would say that majority of humanity believes in live and let live. So this is when it becomes "unwritten and inherent law". It's still comes from self interest but everyone silently agrees on it. Its harder to debate when there is a common perception. Not that this can't be changed, but the world we live in dictates this as a law if you will. If this shit was black and white, we wouldn't even have this thread going. Point is, some things are harder and less worth it to argue.
>>709057723
So all corporate drones are faggots in the closet?
>>709057069
If morals are outdated and stupid, then it would be perfectly fine if someone removed your limbs, prostituted you out, harvest your skin tissue for profit, and killed you through neglect, wouldn't it?
>>709057069
There's only one problem. If you're mean to me I'll be mean to you, and one of us won't be able to handle that.
>>709072923
You cannot prove that either, that's two preconceived lies in place of arguments. Also, morals are either laws or emotions. It sounds like you support morality (emotions) being legislated if you do not define them as laws themselves, which is my argument exactly. Write all laws as emotional absolutes and we will have perfect laws.
>>709073393
Now if you argue you something more arbitrary like the age of consent, or the age to drink alcohol, there's more ambiguity. Kind of like drug use. I put in my body what I want, and no body should be able to tell me otherwise. Then again, you can argue that it still affects others due to the nature of acquiring drugs and selling them. Someone probably died for that heroin you put in your arm. I digress but I think you get the jist I'd what I'm saying.
>>709069758
>its been around for decades
Yeah it's been "decades" since 350 B.C when skepticism was observed. Or, you know what it certainly has been "decades" since 1862 when the concept of nihilism itself has been discussed by the Russians. Do you even know what the fuck you're talking about, or did you just come across it in a fucking tumblr blog?
>>709073393
I believe that all people DO have common perception though, as long as they are completely equally educated, this perception of right and wrong therefore could only result in perfect law amongst these people. That IS my argument.
>>709057069
How the internet works:
1) Consider someone you don't like because you feel superior (niggers, immigrants, women, communists, jews).
2) Take the worst asshole who defends those people.
3) Pretend that defending those people means liking that asshole.
Congrats, now you can be the same old racist/sexist/whatever cocksucker you used to be and feel morally ok with it.
>>709073899
The jist of MY argument however, is that ambiguity has no place in law, that which is morally ambiguous cannot be justly legislated.
>>709073754
Not the anon you responded to but you're arguing semantics more than anything. We can't sit here an say emotion and laws are mutually exclusive. On the contrary, one absolutely dictates the other. As humans we contemplate, we debate, and we emote. Laws become what they are because of majority opinion. Democracy.
>>709074149
It seems we are agreeing with eachother. It was just a but misconstrued. I think even without equal education there are a lot of morals that most agree on, so OP's argument is invalidated by the natural order of things really. My other point is that there are things commonly disagreed on (hence why things are taboo in some countries and the norm in others) that can be left up for moral debate.
>>709074475
>>709074375
*How trolling works
>>709057069
It's like turning pvp mode on life.
Nobody is obligated to raise or feed or protect their children.
Your land and property are mine if I can take them and can and will.
Your gf looks rape worthy, imma have me sum of dat.
Your tattoo looks shit, I'm going to blow torch that off so I don't have to look at it.
There's your examples, you're either not very intelligent or too lazy to think through things.
>>709074475
So if I'm understanding correctly, things commonly argued such as the age of consent, should not be left to a governing body to decide?
>>709073319
so you want me to define my subjective definition of non aggression to you given every circumstance and variable? hell no, i'm way to lazy for that shit. The NAP is a guideline not a dogma. it clearly defines the goal as being anti-violent while making way for subjective interpretation. This gives it the ability to be scalable through time and culture.
don't think religion doesn't have the same problem with subjective definitions. the only problem is that it shuns discussion and finding common ground as it has dogmatic "whole truths".
>Morality is subjectively defined - this is a fact
>Morality can be influenced by culture and relative elements - also a fact
building a culture that holds Anti-Aggression as one of it's highest virtues would benefit the world IMO.
>>709057069
I want to murder OP
>>709073754
I do support morality, and it would be ideal if it was "legislated." Where we disagree is that you say our instinctual emotions determine right and wrong and I disagree. I don't believe any person is capable of determining absolutes like that, which is why I would argue that law and morality will never be fully integrated. My problem with human emotional absolutes is that there will always be a conflict of interests, which will bring about problems, which will bring more conflicting interests and then it will escalate, because that's what emotions do.
>>709075148
Agreed. What most people fail to see is that nearly everything is subjective. Really, the only thing that can be argues as objective is mathematics, and to a slight degree that can even be subjective.
>>709075148
I know that it does. Laziness however, is not an argument, I hadn't even heard of the NAP but now I see that you never really had a position, and I will no longer argue with nothing
>>709074839
Yes.
I'm a robot.
>>709075802
I agree with this.
>>709075892
Close. You're a tool. That's fine, I like working with tools!
>>709057069
No schlomo shecklberg, no one does
But $.25 has been deposited into your PayPal account.
Thank you for propaganda shilling 4chan, your contribution to world wide degeneracy via social media is appreciated.
>>709074781
>Your gf looks rape worthy, imma have me sum of dat.
>Your tattoo looks shit, I'm going to blow torch that off so I don't have to look at it.
Top kek!! I like the way you think anon.
>>709076110
>>709076119
Absent proof of degeneracy.
>>709057069
>morals
>outdated
>I think we should just do what we want
It's all fun and games till you get gang raped by niggers.
>>709075548
Get a load of this guy.
>>709076317
That's assuming that people of that description would have any friends to back them up.
>>709057069
morals and ethics are the only thing that made us come that far as a race you dipshit
>>709076319
Arguing against ill-defined laws is not arguing for child rape, thank you.
>>709057069
Given that the most powerful people on the planet are almost exclusively sociopathic narcissists with exceptional skills at manipulation or potential for violence the world agrees.
>>709076627
Slavery is the only reason that America didn't get collectively spawn-killed as a country, yet we still abandon it.
>>709076480
But that is OP's idea of fun and games. It's not rape if you like it.
>>709076706
Their "moral laws" are the only thing that justifies it though.
>>709076966
It's not rape if you have more friends than a rapist. Then it's an ambush, so yeah pretty much
empathy is part of how a normally functioning brain works
>>709057069
So I should be allowed to feed you laxatives, trap you in a barrel of water, then watch you rot to death in your own shit?
>>709057069
>How to spot a teenager by OP
>>709075548
>laziness is not an argument
you missed the point completely the NAP isn't about me. As I said it's a guideline not a dogma.
The position is that I cannot tell you what is right or wrong but I shouldn't force you to because it's not my right to do so. I cannot make decisions for you since I am not educated in your subjective life experiences and values. I just advocate that you find that committing the smallest amount of aggression as possible is how you choose to live your life.
If people such as yourself, commit to non-aggression. we could fix a lot of the world's problems over night. but people are too busy killing each other over subjective interpretations of religions and other meaningless bullshit.
>>709057069
>Doesn't want morals.
>Posts picture of a woman who is un-raped and alive only because of morals.
>>709057069
>>709076597
Kek, good point. unless you join a gang of people with the same motives as you. :^)
If you want to be an edgy piece of shit, fine. But don't go around saying morality and being good is stupid. If morality didn't exist, you would've died because people really hate faggots. Morality is the only thing keeping your pansy ass alive, you underaged sissy.
>>709057069
Most morals are based on meaningless traditions that have no place in the modern world, so they are in fact worthless. MOST.
The world has changed so that being a good person means something else than it did 100 years ago, that's all. Unfortunately, religions are way too slow to adapt to culture, so they should generally be ignored.
>>709057069
All morality is arbitrary.
>>709079152
>>709057069
Or maybe the folks with a moral compass needs to just exterminate the swine. I guess that could qualify as "durpadurpa me have no self control", except with fewer subhumans around.
>>709057069
Do whatever you want, just be prepared to take responsibility for your actions.
All this people are just denying and repeating arguments they heard as they were raised by the system..
"truth" is, as everyone is raised to have all their mind based around morality; so when they dont have it, they get lost and let their wild and sick instincts to go out. thats why give away morality as a whole its not a good idea to our current society
srry for bad english, fuck my life
>>709079469
This is why government must be constrained to only the most needed restrictions and watched constantly.
Government is usually evil in it's intent. Very few people in government are actually interested in serving the governed. Government is profitable for most, especially the highest ranked. That is why the PEOPLE in government, at every level, must be replaced regularly.
Government MUST exist, it is a necessary evil, but it must always be watched carefully and treated as an errant child.
>>709079733
you can't simply "get rid of" morality. it's defined by everyone subjectively. To make any decision a man has to be able to tell right from wrong. morality is what seperates man from machine. that's why google creating an algorithm that could learn a "good" and "bad" move in the game of go is such a big deal.
>>709079445
even mathematics is arbitrary, what's your point?
>inb4 some retard thinks base10 is the only way numbers work.
>>709057069
I mean as long as you're enjoying yourself and not hindering someone else's enjoyment in life then anything goes ya kno. That's what I reckon at least
>>709079472
>moral compass
>exterminating anyone different
maybe you need to be locked up and never allowed to see the sun
>>709057069
Sounds good OP!
*punches OP hard on the nose
>>709057711
underrated post
>>709080754
>government is usually evil
>government must exist
whoo, someone's never been anywhere or done anything.
>>709080754
>Government MUST exist
I don't like speaking in absolutes but i'm not going to get into an argument of the merits of Anarchism. It is a valid political philosophy but I do agree that i can be flawed.
>>709057069
I want chaos and anarchy, social norms are so rigid and boring. But I also think you shouldn't do anything that will harm anyone else, that's it. So her in the pic isn't breaking my moral code just by having her tits out.
>>709081281
anarchy cannot exist for an extended amount of time, it's nothing but an unstable middle step to an inevitable new government
power differentials are inevitable, and when they're questioned, government forms.
>>709081281
Perhaps I should have said "Government WILL exist" as >>709081576 points out
>>709081025
>mathematics is arbitrary
not really...
>a is a
Aristotle's law of Identity still holds true. as long as we can identify oneness in objects we can use math as a tool to identify the deterministic principles of our objective universe.
The concept of "oneness" in individual cases can be subjectively defined and that is where I think you are getting confused. but Math starts were oneness is defined as Math is a tool of language to describe objective truths that are inherent to the universe.
>>709081576
>>709081958
>Government WILL exist
that's better but just be cautious when speaking confidently in absolutes. Anarchy could theoretically take place.....
>is it likely?
no not at all
>>709082564
Math is a whole lot more than the just the law of identity
Our society was built using arbitrary tools in an arbitrary way, that's what humans are, almost entirely arbitrary.
>>709082564
>Math is a tool of language to describe objective truths that are inherent to the universe
EXACTLY
The truths themselves are objective and innate.
Math is nothing but a human tool to arbitrarily describe them
>>709069039
exhibit A
morals save lives.. or at least save people from being dumbasses like this fuck
>>709083942
>Math is nothing but a human tool to arbitrarily describe them
Prove it faggit.
>>709084115
Language is a tool used to communicate
>prove it
>>709057069
You can do what ever you want, im missing your point here? are you not doing what you want right now?
fuck your tit..oh you dont have them
>>709057069
Lola morals are for chumps, but you must pretend to have morals in order to deceive others of your intentions. Having morals does not mean your enemy's will have them also. Its a handicap on life. Can you hold justice in your hand. Can u sell a basket of good or evil. No they are abstract concepts so they vary from person to person. We are all just monkeys on a rock hurtling through space.
>>709076699
>>709076842
Noted
>>709057069
man, fuck op
Nasty tits.
