Undecided voter here, convince me one way or another.
Before Hillary supporters say, "Are you joking? Don't vote for that racist moron"
Or before Trump supporters say, "Are you kidding, Hillary should be in jail"
Please support your arguments with facts I can go look at.
Thanks, niggers.
>>708894147
It doesn't matter who you vote for, you dumb motherfucker. They're empty suits.
>>708894147
Honestly if you're undecided at this point just do the world a favor and don't vote. Or breath.
>>708894147
Both are zionist cucks giving America's troops and money to Israel.
Long story short: They're both slaves of the zionist jewish elite, it doesn't matter who you vote, the jews always win.
Hilary has boobs. Trump doesn't.
Ref: just google boobs.
>>708894147
watch their speeches you lazy fuck. support who you agree with. if still no idea, hold your head under water for 10min to clear out useless opinions.
go get some sunlight, my argument? the body needs some sunlight to function correcty
thereby you're a moron right now
>>708894321
Top kek
>>708894147
Vote for Trump it will be funny
>>708894233
do people believe this? no matter how insignificant you think your vote is it does still count though...
unless you're commenting on the pathetic circus of democracy and how we're fucked either way.
i think anyone that thinks a single president can change anything is out of their mind
>>708894147
If you can't decide between the two children arguing on national TV for your amusement try voting for a real candidate.
Gary Johnson is on the ballot in all 50 states
>>708894539
>>708894147
How can you be undecided? They're like night and day.
Vote for Clinton dickwad. America is not the centre of the universe, and Clinton is the only one who gives a fuck about the global perspective.
>>708894147
There are other candidates retard
They're both horrible. I'd recommend not voting for either if you don't mind your vote not making a difference (if you abstain, you can't complain).
Honestly I'd lean to Hillary only because she has been in politics and knows how things run. President shouldn't be an entry-level job. You need connections, relationships, etc.
Look at businesses. The most effective managers are former workers (you can google this, I'm on mobile).
Honestly don't care. Just fuck my shit up, Election 2016.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tHsZxJlxHYw
That's the unbiased, non-media and non-debate Trump. He's at his best when he rallies, and this speech shows precisely everything he wants to accomplish and change. If it doesn't convince you, he isn't your guy
Don't vote for Hillary because "It is time for a women to take office" just like that nigger Obama if he was white Romney would've whooped some ass.
Don't vote for Trump because "He speaks his mind and isn't afraid to call people on their shit" so what he is still gonna have to control what he says if he takes office.
Point is I fucking hate Hillary because of how cringe she is when it comes to trying to appeal for the younger community and I live Trump because he is a white male and I'm a born racist sexist white male.
Good news is I'm not voting because I know that I'm biased. I'm not left wing or white wing I'm always gonna vote for the white guy. If I were you anon I'd do the same. Whoever wins is gonna win and in 6 months time we will all forget the candidates names and whatever they try to change won't change. America has been the same since Watergate. Obama promised changed and as far as I can tell everything has pretty much stayed the way it was before pre-nigger topia.
Kick back smoke a bowl and ignore the government anon. They won't be any major changes anytime soon.
>>708894147
You want this as your leader?
>>708894539
isnt this guy really dumb? like didnt even know what aleppo was?
>>708894815
typical populist bullshit
its amazing how it still works after centuries.
spoiler: Trump will work for his interest, not yours. Just like everybody else.
>>708895058
>spoiler: Trump will work for his interest, not yours. Just like everybody else.
A smart comment on /b/? I guess I overdosed on zolpidem
>>708894833
i think obamacare is actually good. the way healthcare was before was completely insane and now it's easier to get care...it might've cost more, but i don't really mind, i'd rather give my money to healthcare than a pointless war.
also obama has deported more people than any of the past 5 presidents
>>708895058
Fucking thank you.
> b-but, Washington outsider! Non-PC!
He's a fuckin businessman and biased as all hell. Everyone will work for themselves, not you.
>>708894861
The niggers got their freedom, so why don't they just go home instead of complaining about living in a country controlled by whites?
>>708894520
They still are commander-in-chef of the army.
>>708894147
Itt: ww3 supporters
>>708894539
>voting for Gary Johnson
>willingly throwing your only vote into the trash
sure thing kid, will do
>>708894861
I feel like she's been trying to roleplay as a tumblrtard. She is doing a good job.
>>708894520
Do people actually still believe this when the only votes that matter are electoral college that can literally support anybody even people not on the ballot
>>708894147
Watch YouTube trending videos; only media source to actually put out ALL the facts.
<spoiler> most of them destroy Clinton</spoiler>
>>708894147
if you want political correct hypocrisy to continue us down the path where we see things like black lives matter rioting through the streets vote for hillary, because she supports that kind of shit
Hillary is going to initiate world war three
Donald is going to revolutionize capitalism
>>708895453
> Implying they have no bias
> Implying there's a single unbiased source period
How's 8th grade goin pal
>>708895438
only twenty states are able to vote however they want, the rest aren't allowed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithless_elector
>>708894147
I rather have a clown that talks a lot of shit then a known sickly criminal war monger.
That and Trump has no ties to any political family. Seems like he could be less corrupt then the others.
>>708895453
>youtube trending videos
>facts
lol. also youtube trending algorithm is heavily tailored to your personal viewing habits, so if you're seeing a lot of anti shillary stuff in there it's because you spend a lot of time clicking links from /pol/
I'm British. I don't have the insight you Amerifags have on all the facts.
My gut reaction is he's partly honest she totally isn't
No brainer
>>708895636
> only
> almost half
>>708895573
>Please support your arguments with facts I can go look at.
>>708894147
Hillary's no fly zone in Syria has the very real potential to evoke ww3 with russia as enforcing it would involve shooting down INVITED russian jets. https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016/09/24/syri-s24.html even Jill stein said voting hillary means potentially voting ww3
>>708895808
Brexit retard detected
>>708894147
The only reason to vote for Trump is for the keks.
If Hillary wins, you will cry as the world burns, if Trump wins, you will laugh as the world burns
>>708895808
> being a britfag
> letting the mooslims take over your country
> feeling qualified to comment on US political climate
Entitled bugger, aren't ya?
>>708895808
>>708895926
Top kek, americans and british... Both fucking retarded.
No offense.
>>708894288
The US never sent troops to Israel you moron,but money I'm sure they did,money and military equipment.
>>708894288
lol 4chin always knows the score
>>708895999
Says the american that wants a president who sucks Israel's dick 24/7
>>708896075
Yeah but I got trips so blow me
>>708895926
This is why Brexit happened IMO. Nobody trusted all the government and media hype. Meanwhile they're all looking around their towns at all the foreign people that they're being told isn't a problem.
>>708896068
Good goy
>>708894861
>still using the term african americans
>>708894670
It should be center for Americans dumbfuck. What is up with this globalist ideal?>>708894797
>>708894520
i mean presidents can start wars, can't they?
>>708894147
Hillary was once a little hot 9 year old loli. There, you need no more persuasion.
>>708894861
yes
>>708894813
4 previous presidents have had zero political experience.
>>708894861
i'm black and jesus fuck no.
but i've already voted so
>>708896675
you are not black
>>708894147
Joe exotic, he's our best choice
>>708895926
What faggot thinks brexit is bad? We need to do it in america
>>708894861
She is only pandering for their vote. She's as racist as they come.
>>708894147
If I were american I wouldn't vote at all. Either you get a career politician who is deeply entrenched in a corrupt system. She represents only the political class that brought her to power. She will change nothing.
Or you get an unpredictable madman who, while entertaining and not a part of the political elite, will not represent the working people.
>inb4 Gary "Meme" Johnson
>>708896776
i am. believe it or not, there are actually a few of us roaming around this terrible place.
information out there surrounds the damn fence,make up your own mind,
if the history of hillary,the persona presented in her bio is at variance with HER RECORD,someones'
are liars, HER RECORD,her defenders do not deny,HER RECORD,therefore, is shabby,distinguished by deception,non accomplishment in the 30 years she has been in public life,,
quit straddlin the fence unless you like it.,in that case,you are a democrat first always & last,portraying your self as
'an independant'
one of those who considers democrat steamcooked 'facts',reluctantly slithers into the booth,sweating all the way,and Xng in the box for the democrat.
btw,,who have you voted for in 08 & 011?
>>708895137
Obamacare is a shitshow.
>>708894147
AusFag here.
Can't provide you with facts as I really do not give two shits either way.
Hillary's backround is:
Deaths of multiple persons in a Bengazi embassy (Google Benghazi 'terrorist attack' for more info).
However, that was an entirety of that current governments fault; Hillary copped the blame as she 'took ownership of the problem to save the President'.
Hillary has been known to lie and cover up hers and others that she supports' mistakes from the general public. (Look into wikileaks more)
Her campaign has shown she's acting more like your typical 'tumblr fag, retard BLM, Feminist etc' Not a good look since you want to look 'professional'.
Majority of the opposition take aim at her past and how she's lied and covered up multiple fuck ups. Even her inability to realise or fail to realise that her husband was in multiple sexual relationships with others at his time in power isnt a good sign.
Her support is to the LBGT, BLM, feminism movements as she'll gain the most support from that.
Trump has been a 'successful businessman'... if you can look past the fact he's been bankrupt or close to it several times.
Trump has always had his own interests in heart, and support law enforcement and military.
He wants to 'combat the terrorist threat' more heavily. However, his attitude towards professionalism has let him down massively, and the media has taken advantage of that in the aim of bringing him down.
Trump has good ideas, but his ability to broadcast them lacks severely. He was definitely a poor choice for a candidate.
Once again, I can't provide you with facts and links as I really couldn't give two shits, but figured you needed a 'general idea' of the situation from someone who isn't biased to one side or another.
>>708894147
Anyone who wants a woman as president is a cuck.
/thread
They're both fucking morons, and unfit to lead a country. But I'd say vote for Trump, he'll probably only be president for one term, and most of his extreme shit will most likely not even be executed.
>>708897254
cool.
>>708894147
why not just go to their respective websites and look at their policies?
Personally I like Trumps tax plan and isolationist stance.
>>708894147
No point in voting. Do not fret. Your choice has been submitted or you.
This country hasn't been a democracy since Bush senior. Difference from then till now, they just don't care that it's a dictatorship and are too complacent to care. They've created enough ignorant 'drones' to support any thing fed to them.
>>708897503
you think they'll completely follow their policies?
This election meme is getting old
>>708894147
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-F1_Kat3Ok
This years election is already rigged. See video leaks, DNC email leaks, Podesta emails, ect.
Vote however you want, Hillary wins by default because of corruption.
>>708894670
>Clinton is the only one who gives a fuck about the global perspective.
Which is exactly why not to vote for her.
>>708897658
This guy gets it.
>expecting /b/ to give you valuable information other than the fact that you're attracted to people of the same sex as you
>>708894147
Facts? Republicans are anti facts
Just google trump and global warming
>>708896392
3/4 of our stuff is imported from other countries and trump loves that globalization shit just as much as Hillary's backers. give up the dream
>>708897661
They will at least try to. What the fuck are you saying?
Look at some of the emails from wiki leaks and some of the videos where the Clintons organization describes and admites to getting questions early sending people to Trump rallys to make him look bad and the latest one which is still trending on YouTube is her campaign describing and admitting to how they're going to use mass voter fraud should I talk about how she's called Muslims "sand niggers" and all the other racist and bigoted stuff oh and also she said you need a "public and private opinion" on everything so she's not loyal and she does belong in prison she did those emails but according to the Wikileaks emails she was emailing Obama and he said he would protect her from legal action...
>>708896982
>What faggot thinks brexit is bad?
any one with an ounce of sense who is currently looking at the weakest pound for more than 130 years?
anyone who saw 2 trillion wiped off the international stockmarkets in 24 hours after the result, and as much again lost from british companies?
Anyone who knows germans, poles, or romanians who have lived and worked in this country for years suddenly become afraid of being attacked?
Anyone who wants to keep the UK intact, since scotland is now given mandate to try and break away, because they do not want brexit by an overwhelming majority?
Anyone who works in a business that deals with europe at all?
In fact, anyone who's not a knuckle-dragging idiot who was fed the "380 million to the NHS" bullshit?
>>708894147
if you would like to keep islamic refugees from doing here what they do in europe, maintain what rights you have left, lower taxes, improve the economy, think its wrong to abort a baby the day before birth, then vote trump
i am a one issue voter. I only care about the second amendment and my right to own and use firearms. hillary clintons plans have been exposed through wikileaks. she is going to put as many at 4 antigun justices on the supreme court and sign executive orders reguarding gun control.
even if she only serves one term having a supreme court that is weighted against upholding constitutional law for the next 40 years will change this country in ways that i do not want to live to see.
both of them are shit but hillary is going to ruin this country.
>>708898064
Maybe you should do she research. There is more ice now than there has been for decades.
Hillary's foreign policy has been a disaster. Her and Obongo have armed ISIS 3 TIMES in an effort to force regime change on Syria. She is willing to go to war with Russia to get Syria.
>>708898299
>inb4 all the "muh guns" comments
>>708898071
No shit we trade, that's why we need better trade deals and more industry. Everyone is moving their companies out of the country and selling their product back to us. It's lose lose.
>>708894147
Vote for an independant, idk why more fence sitters aren't doing this
![kenneth_bone[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/DvL9aPS.jpg "kenneth_bone[1].jpg")
>>708894147
>Undecided voter here
>>708898610
No trade deal is going to stop a company from moving overseas.
Funny how you faggots always blame the government for that.
don't vote
>>708898171
The thing about the emails is she was subpoenaed to produce them. That's when she famously deleted them.
That stinks of guilt.
>>708898793
No, but lowering the tax rate (making it cheaper for them to operate) and implementing tariffs will mean that they will basically have to operate in the U.S.
You should watch the last week tonight on scandals
The sad part is that America WANTED either of these two baboons to be President. They weren't presidential candidates out of nowhere, they had to get Americans to support them.
>>708898244
You seem to believe a lot of media shit. Have you ever been outside?
>>708898893
There is literally no proof this would work. They move overseas because they can get less-than-US-minimum wage labor.
>>708899031
>durrr yer branewashed by the jews
kek
>>708898793
Lower taxes might make them reconsider.
>>708899073
And then they would have to deal with the tariffs when exporting to America.
It's simple economics mate.
>>708898893
>Trumple Down Economics
kek
>>708899232
No multi-national would put up with tariffs, either.
You have a very simplistic view of economics.
>>708898570
i really just don't want my kids to grow up in post civil war America. I would rather not have to kill anyone or die for what i believe.
>>708894670
faggot cuck
>>708899310
They wouldn't "put up with it"? Lol, explain.
>>708899027
Yeah it's totally sad voting for a qualified candidate like Clinton who's pushing for stuff I'd want to vote for, kek.
>>708894797
Yeah, vote for 3 or 4 place
>>708899073
So let's raise the minimum wage to $15 then let Mexicans come in and take all the labor jobs because they work for fucking change on the dollar. Liberal fucking logic.
>>708894147
Anon from Italy. We were the joke of the world for having Berlusconi as president for almost 20 years. Trump is no different, except that he's not involved with italian mafia (maybe), but he has access to nukes.
>as if voting matters
>people who decide who we're stuck with isn't us
>electoral college
>you learned this shit in grade school
>>708894813
Career politicians are what is destroying the country. Its time for a new perspective.
>>708894147
it doesnt matter at this point, since trump won the primary its a win for Clinton
>>708899364
They'd stop doing business here altogether.
That's what you want. And whatever country that mulit-national moved to would punish this country as well through whatever trade deals they had with us.
Your entire premise is built on assumptions.
If Trump was emotionally stable, and absolutely abandoned conservative social issues like abortion, gay marriage, etc... Then he might be a viable candidate. But then you still have to get past his absolutely sketchy business practices.
Clinton is as corrupt as they come, but that just means she knows how to play the politics game better than anyone around.
They're both going to be war hawks and try to start a second cold war with Russia to fund their military contractor friends.
>>708899395
Here's an idea: why don't you go work some cheap labor jobs, faggot?
Nobody else wants to.
>>708899031
>You seem to believe a lot of media shit. Have you ever been outside?
Yes.
I have. I've even been to that place called yoo-rup... and I work in a business where 80% of my trade goes to the european union, mostly germany. I've seen 1st-hand how the economy has tanked, that the exchange rate is now 20% lower than 6 months ago. That's not "media". that's reality.
I live in scotland, and I've seen the groundswell of opposition to brexit which has made a 2nd referendum a reality. Not "media" like you think.
And I know people from europe who are now afraid of speaking in public, because they have accents. That is the reality of what's happened in this country, thanks to brexit.
>>708899609
>They're both going to be war hawks
bullshit
>>708899464
>Trump is no different, except that he's not involved with italian mafia (maybe)
He's in with the Russian mafia
Vote Hillary and we get a second cold war. (With the possibility of actual nukes!)
Vote Trump and we get feminist extremists running around killing trump supporters. (With a few assassination attempts.)
So either way... we're fucked.
>>708899509
Bullshit. Republicans have been fucking up this country for over 15 years.
>>708899545
You mean they would be willing to lose a wealthy consumer base of 350 million people? Where the fuck would they sell their products, Romania?
Moving to America means they could bypass the tariffs while operating cheaply because of lowered taxes. It's not hard to understand.
Btw our entire argument is based on speculation, because none of this has happened yet. Stop trying to sound smart by throwing random insults.
>>708899735
tinfoil much, faggot?
>>708895808
Also a great point, maybe trump will bring about change versus status quo of a (failed) politician
>>708899545
And another company would take their place. Capitalism.
>>708894861
google images "Hillary Clinton blackface"
whatever though, not even a good reason not to vote for her
imo this is though
>>708899735
Lol I think I'd take the one without nukes tbhfam
>>708894147
Basically,
>>708894861
sums it all up.
For whatever "experience" each candidate has, their decisions will be made with the help of advisors.
It's worth considering however that either Hillary Clinton truly believes that white privilege is a serious issue in this country and that everyday, law-abiding taxpaying white American citizens are the bane of black existence. Or, she's only saying what she thinks black voters want to hear. Either way, I think it's wrong. So, I cannot vote for her. If you agree with her assessment that black people need your hand to help them up and your shoulder to cry on, and you're willing and able to provide that, then by all means vote for her.
>>708899761
Anyone who still argues for trickle-down economics should be insulted. You are the speculating here, not me.
We tax the fuck out of the rich, and if they go overseas, we tax them some more. And if they go bust from the regulations, someone more worthy of the business steps in and takes their place.
That's how it works.
>>708899809
>marine corps highest
Ooh-fuckin-rah
>>708899634
I have worked labor jobs but here's the thing -- I'm not contracting my back out to the lowest bidder
>>708894147
Gary Johnson has a great foriegn policy. Wants to repeal obamacare without replacing it. He is crazy enough to want to submit a balanced budget and try to tackle the national debt. Anon maybe its a longshot, but it is the best shot
>>708900117
No you're pretending that cheap labor jobs are the fucking backbone of this country while arguing against paying people better wages.
Wtf is wrong with you?
>>708894147
Look at it this way. We'll have 8 years of Clinton if she's elected, but only 4 years of Trump, which isn't so horrible when you look at Hillary wanting to go to war with Syria and Russia. Trump doesn't have information coming out about his corruption every 24 hours like his opposition.
>>708900137
What is Aleppo?
>>708899809
We gonna ignore the military polls with Gary Johnson in them?
>>708900248
>Hillary wanting to go to war with Syria and Russia.
god do you faggots have this tattooed on your fucking dick or something?
>>708899809
>durr google my faggot conspiracy for me
kek
>>708899954
We're both speculating you absolute moron.
I don't know how much clearer I can make this for you. It's not simple trickle down economics. Find a flaw in this argument, we can start from there:
>Corporations have a profitable and large consumer basis in America (not speculation, fact)
>corporations move out of country for cheaper operating expenses
>takes jobs from America
>tariffs imposed, meaning it is now more expensive for them to operate out of America
>while at the same time taxes are lowered making it cheaper to work from the United States.
>suddenly it's cheaper to work in America
Explain the flaws.
>>708900249
So you want to ignore his foriegn policy speech at Chicago university and just state the same bs that the media loves to run with. Alright then anon
>>708900278
Yeah it's almost like it's an important issue or something.
>>708900277
We gonna throw our vote away knowing we're down to two ACTUAL candidates
Seriously though, if you haven't chosen chocolate or vanilla at this point, it really does feel too late.
>>708899954
Tax the fuck out of people who strive for greatness and reward welfare to the lazy fucks.
>>708900319
>It's not simple trickle down economics
Yes it is. You want to give multi-billion corporations making multi-billion dollar profits a break on their taxes. That is the very definition of it. This is not speculation, and it doesn't fucking work.
>Explain the flaws
Because you don't fucking know. You HOPE things will go that way, and that there won't be any retaliation from either the company or the country it's set up shop in.
And there is literally no proof it would.
>>708900436
Not anon, but curious, what is his foreign policy?
>>708896255
And thats what Hillary wants with "open borders". Just look how fast Merkel has backtracked! These politicians are protected from the rabble they openly allow in.
>>708900436
Right, because realizing that Gary Johnson is an idiot who isn't even following what's happening in Syria must mean the Jews Control Me Through the Media (tm).
kek
>>708894147
are YOU joking?
>>708900310
durr google muh durr hurr
>>708900524
faggot
>>708900560
He wants to work together with Russia to stamp out ISIS and says he's against "regime change".
>>708896517
Yeah, she's like 99 years old now.
>>708900731
So Gary Johnson wants to be a Putin Puppet just like Trump?
Cool.
>>708897778
>>708896392
Do you honestly not think a global perspective is important? No country is exclusively selfsustained.
>>708900777
jesus trips confirm
>>708900543
Do you see how stupid you are? Like are you aware of it? Like...are you aware of how to form a coherent thought?
Every single policy this election, AND EVERY ELECTION, is speculation you fucking inbred tard. It's why both candidates say "yep my proposal is the one that works".
But I'll try this again for the sake of argument. Find the flaw in my flow of logic in >>708900319
Explain what wouldn't work. Keep in mind, I explained how lower corporate tax rates would benefit America, so instead of saying "MUH TRICKLE DOWN", come up with a fucking argument you mongoloid.
>>708896982
Yeah, globalization is fantasy for faggots
>>708900731
Dope, didn't know that at all. Thanks anon.
>>708900483
We gonna vote for the tyranny of one to save ourselves from the tyranny of another. Nope
This is /b/ where edgelords hopped on the Trump train because it's the only thing they have in common with each other besides being socially awkward virgin neckbeards who are one step away from suicide.
So, good luck w/ some objective opinions about this. I'll be happy when Hilldog wins so all those racist Trump supporters will be even more mad and as an added bonus, they'll now be labeled as complete retards by everyone they know for banging the idiot drum as loud as they could.
>>708900941
>I explained how lower corporate tax rates would benefit
No you didn't. You ignored any and all criticism of TDE.
Face it, you want to carry water for the top earners in this society, and people like me want to force them to pay their fair share for the services and the benefits they glean from doing business here. Stay mad, faggot.
>Explain what wouldn't work.
> Find the flaw in my flow of logic in >>708900319
I did. Twice now. You keep looking through those rose colored glasses, kek.
>>708894147
Seriously, don't even vote. Or vote for literally anyone besides either of those idiots. Gary Johnson and Jill Stein are both not great, but neither one will be nearly as detrimental to America as Trump or Clinton.
>>708900775
So the alternative of working with Russia is basically fighting Russia so you want war with Russia and in order to validate that you want to call Gary or Trump working with Putin puppets?
>>708897146
It never was sustainable for one. Illegal in the way that Obama forced socialization on the American public using the IRS to enforce mandatory enrollment on the public.
>>708901106
faggot
>>708895137
If you think obamacare is good, then you have never worked in a health care position. Medicare has been the saving grace for the american people for decades. Obamacare has put so much strain on it that it's completely possible that before 2020, it's going to be so ineffective it will be done away with.
>>708901113
No I want actually qualified people running this country. Gary Johnson isn't one of them, based on his fumbling knowledge of foreign policy.
>>708900207
I know what I'm worth. Aren't labor jobs the backbone of this country? Who builds those skyscrapers and roads? Who milks those cows and feeds those hogs? Illegal Mexicans in our workforce displaces american workers.
>>708901168
bullshit
>>708900980
tyranny? i dunno.. Clinton is the only one who will keep Obamacare in place forcing millions to pay a $500 tax for not having insurance at the end of the year.
That alone should grind anyones gears.
>>708894286
This.
Or just vote trump.
This country is going to be getting raped in the ass by intolerant Muslims within a generation under Clinton. (I'm referring to the refugee situation)
Also on the border we have the same issue. Lots of border agents are needing Arabic translators recently. Knowing how weak or border is lots of towel heads are sneaking in from the south.
I don't remember correctly but I think it was the FBI director that mentioned that ISIS will infiltrate the refugee population. Clinton wants to increase the amount of refugees. For this reason alone we shouldn't consider Clinton. Trump had proposed stopping the refugee program.
In my opinion your options are as follows....
Vote Trump he might be an idiot wroth some things but the USA is still the USA.
OR
Vote Clinton and start learning some Quran passages (unless you wanna get your head or your children's heads cut off in a few generations)
>>708900983
le deplorables: the post
>>708901223
That's a crock of shit. Mexicans do jobs that most Americans don't want anyway. I seriously doubt Joe Average Six Pack wants to pick strawberries in a field for $2.50 an hour.
>>708894147
I am European, and I don't really get the 2-party system of US elections. Have you considered voting for a 3rd party candidate? (Gary Johnson/Jill Stein) I agree both Clinton and Trump are unappealing, so why not simply cast your vote upon someone whose policies you can support? A vote cast from consciousness is never wasted. Don't vote Trump or Clinton, in fact, never vote for a candidate you do not trust with the amount of power that is the US presidency.
>>708901223
>Aren't labor jobs the backbone of this country?
No.
>Who builds those skyscrapers and roads?
and you think if we raise wages to $15 an hour Mexicans will be building that shit for cheap?
Fantasy much?
>Illegal Mexicans in our workforce displaces american workers.
Fine. Then you go to Arizona, knock on some richfag's door, and offer to do their landscaping for $5 an hour.
Go. Nobody's stopping you.
>>708901259
So you have a Muslim rape fantasy. Shocking.
>>708901095
You know what you sound like? Those biblethumpers that I bet you always make fun of.
>here is why Trumps economic reforms would work
>BUT MUH TRICKLE DOWN IT SAYS IT RIGHT HERE IN THIS HOLY BOOK, TRICKLE DOWN IS DA DEVIL
I'm done with you, faggot.
>>708901276
The best show on the internet will be on /r/The_Donald subreddit once that faggot loses. I'lll bet 100 bitcoins says the subreddit goes private and the meltdowns will be legendary.
>>708901308
Ate you seriously retarded? Think.... then try again
>>708901531
Are*
>>708900685
Good argument.
>>708895453
>trending vid3os on youtube
Propaganda?
>>708895325
Wtf are you talking about? You think your one personal vote matters at all? Your vote is truly wasted if you vote for a candidate you do not support. Your democracy is faulty, because either way, you are gonna lose Amurrica.
>>708901531
Hey, I'm not restarted.
>>708898299
I couldn't agree more. Hillary is another demorat that is more concerned with further eroding what few liberties are left, and is more concerned with citizens of other countries than helping American citizens
>>708901309
Both Gary Johnson and Jill Stein are as terrible a candidate as the two main ones. The only difference is that they haven't gotten a lot of main stream media coverage.
I find it puzzling that in a country of 320 million people it still boils down to these 4 imbeciles.
>>708901593
Google up spoiler candidate, anon. It's happened before and Gary Johnson and his idiotic herd are doing it again.
>>708901418
Actually you're the one preaching the Gospel of Trickle-Down here, anon.
>here's why Trump's economic reforms would work
And I've explained to you a number of times why Trump's policies are naive speculation with no guarantee companies would follow suit.
And I've also explained that you're willing to give the top earners in our society a huge tax cut instead of making them pay progressive taxes per the 16th Amendment.
>I'm done with you
Something tells me this is probably not the first time you've been called out on this, actually.
>>708894147
As a non American, i think trump is a better choice
Not only for the us of a, but also for the world
Trump is against theose war you guys do around the world, first its cost is absurd, second all the physicaly/mentaly injuried veterans are a big burden
If You have a family member who whent to war, i'm sure you enderstand
My choice of words may be poor but i'm sur you got my point
>>708901593
You have literally no reason not to support Clinton.
>>708901404
Look into Islam. Educate yourself
>>708901619
>more concerned with further eroding what few liberties are left
you can't even give one example faggot
>>708898549
Emir Obama bin Laden will resume destroying American when he resumes control of isis and will be aided by fellow demorat Hillary.
>>708901670
>durr google muh shit for me
>durr
kek
>>708894147
If you can't decide for yourself what is best for our country....then don't vote
>>708901754
>durr google muh conspirasees for meee
kek
>>708901239
>thinking health insurance is optional
If you don't want to get fucked from medical bills then you better get insurance.
![Suppositories[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/KejYdbp.png "Suppositories[1].png")
>>708901794
>demorat
>>708901239
>muh conspiracies
kek
>>708898711
This guy is a liberal cuck who would vote for any faggot
>>708901168
This is a good thing. The whole damn system needs to be overhauled from the ground up.
no matter who wins
I just want this shit to go nuclear.
>>708901684
Okay, let's start fresh than. Since we both seem to disagree that we proved our points let's just start it again.
The problem; businesses leaving because it's cheaper to operate out of America.
Trump's solution; Make it more expensive for businesses to export, while making it cheaper to operate in the country, balancing out so ours be more profitable to operate in America.
Starting fresh. Explain how that's wrong.
>>708901670
>>708895325
"I'll vote for the lizardmen that says he will roast us all alive!"
"Are you an idiot? The lizardwoman says she'll steam us alive, that's clearly much better!"
"Hey guys, what about voting for someone who is neither a lizard nor wants to kill us all?"
"Are you crazy? You'll THROW AWAY YOUR VOTE! Because of guys like you, we'll all be roasted alive!"
-American voter behaviour
>>708901728
The same fake ass politician we've had for years.
I'm going with the foul mouth human being.
If you watch their rallies she comes across as a robot saying lines that they have tested focus grouped to appeal to the most people.
In his rallies he can actually be funny. Sometimes he'll bring up people from the crowd. He's just generally more human than her.
>>708901847
>conspiracies
Quran 9:29, is that a conspiracy?
>>708901847
Nice bait
>>708896472
indirectly yeah. Even if they act outside of the Patriots' instructions their actions have impact. That's what we saw with the Shadow Moses and Big Shell incidents. Huge mistake on the Patriot end if you ask me.
>>708902026
Then vote hillary, at best it's another cold war, if not you're nuked
>>708902141
This.
One again. Educate yourself.
Don't embarrass yourself.
>>708899380
Sorry faggot, voting for clinton means you'll still have to pay for your sex change on your own
>Murricans talk about islam and mexicans
>Don't realize Israel is reponsible for all their problems
Top kek, you indoctrinated brainless fucking double nigger cunts.
>>708901775
the first amendment: they are trying to pass laws against "hate speech" "cultural appropriation" "inappropriate costumes"
the second amendment: go look up any fucking time clinton has ever talked about guns. fuck man ex: the no fly list. anyone can be put on the list without notifcation or due process. once on that list they would lose a constitutionally protected natrual right. so you lose a human right of self defense because the government says you are too dangerous. you need to look up the kinds of innocent people who were put on that list and for what. you can be deemed a terrorist now days for having a months worth of canned goods or collecting rainwater.
the fourth amendment: again they have already passed laws that allow them without due process of law to come in to your house and confiscate firearms without needing a warrent signed by a judge and no crime committed. The police forced their way inside hundreds of houses during the Boston bombings they had no warrants and did not have the consent of the occupants and in many cases they pulled them out of the house at gunpoint.
>>708901095
Not the guy your arguing with but you need to understand buisnesses dont want to pay their fair share, they will just head to china where they pay nothing. Then they'll export products into the usa which again they will cost them only shipping (no significant tax). If we tax products coming in at a high rate it would make more sence for them to move here and pay (some) taxes.
>>708901670
Look at the two main candidates anon there is nothing to spoil literally nothing
>>708894147
if you want to go to nuclear war with russia:Vote hillary
If you don't want nuclear war with russia and less mexicans: Vote trump
>>708901370
I doubt there are many illegals building skycrapers. Most of those workers are journeymen in their field.
Raising the minimum wage would in turn raise the price of everything. People would look to save money where they could by hiring cheap labor....displacing american workers.
If there weren't illegals around doing those jobs do you think the richfag would do his own landscaping?
>>708899642
80% of your trade goes to Germany? What do you make, suicide vests and burkas?
>>708899027
didn't clinton rig the primary or something though
>>708902054
Much better then anything Clinton has suggested.
Many people who are voting Clinton haven't even listened to Trump's plans. They hear that he hates (insert certain type of person here) and they just don't listen
>>708902054
>Starting fresh. Explain how that's wrong.
I already have, True Believer. Several times.
You have literally no proof that businesses will take him up on this offer.
And I doubt you can even produce one example of a multi-national who has made comment on such a proposal and is on board with it. Name even ONE company planning to return to the US if Trump's plan goes through.
Protip: you can't.
>>708902193
Looool
>>708895325
>thinking the popular vote means anything anyway lul
>>708902054
>The problem; businesses leaving because
they can
>>708899742
15 years? Obummerat has been in charge for the last eight? Do the math, faggot.
>>708902397
Bait.
>>708894147
Hillary will go to war with russia and maybe china/iran. Trump probably won't. That's good enough for me to not vote for her.
>>708902141
the vast majority of holy texts mention something about how it's chill to murder people if they don't believe in god. stop acting like it's just a muslim thing.
>>708896014
Com to mi cuntry were water is brown like dirt and we eat fish that babushka catch in 89'
>>708902125
Actually I want to vote for the candidate who has the best policies, not someone I can have a beer with, anon.
Trump is a fucking idiot who has proven he's not stable to do the job as President, no matter how many times he brings people up from the crowd and acts "generally more human" according to you.
>>708894147
>>708902803
Every doctor who is not on her payroll has disqualified her on neurological grounds.
That is really all the convincing you should need.
>>708902565
it will never come to nuclear war.
if hillary gets elected there is a strong chance of a proxy war that will result in direct russian vs us troop contact. it will probably start in syria and then nato will get involved in crimea.
with trump we have a smaller chance of it happening because he has historically been more open to dealing with russia.
>>708902141
Yeah actually pointing to a Holy Book and claiming it "proves" people are bad is kind of retarded.
>>708902842
Sure, sure.
Keep in silence and obedient you good goy.
>>708899932
>do a better job
>white people are the bane of black existence
I love how you just took a simple suggestion and turned it into much more. She could just think we need to do a little better job, which maybe we do.
>>708902410
This. So much this.
He gets it. He's a true Patriot.
>>708902184
>durr i iz rite about everyding
>google for me kid
>google it google it google it google it
kek
>>708902333
thanks to Republicans
>>708902663
Okay I see now, I see where all the mix up was.
You see this as an offer.
Businesses aren't going to "take him up" on this offer, they're going to calculate where it will be the most profitable to operate from, and move there. Implementing tariffs and lowering taxes will make America the most profitable area to operate from.
Less transportation costs, easy access to consumer market, lower taxes, etc. etc.
>>708902410
>>>708901775 (You)
>the first amendment: they are trying to pass laws against "hate speech" "cultural appropriation" "inappropriate costumes"
said no one ever
>>708903090
how fucking ignorant of current events are you?
>>708902410
so you believe potential terrorists should have access to weapons?
k
>>708902920
Lol wtf are you even talking about? Give me any kind of source...
>>708894147
I'd just say that you should consider voting for Gary Johnson. He's not a great chance for winning, but I think you'll agree with a lot more of his stances than the other two.
>>708902410
>
>the fourth amendment: again they have already passed laws that allow them without due process of law to come in to your house and confiscate firearms without needing a warrent signed by a judge and no crime committed.
horseshit--you're making that up, faggot
Americans now:
>Muh second amendment.
Americans in 10 years:
>Muh 38472 amendment.
>>708903207
Shhhhhh...The adults are talking.
>>708894147
It doesn't matter who you vote for, Hillary won this when the Republicans couldn't decide on a legitimate candidate. Baby face please-vote-for-me-im-just-like-obama-rubio, the zodiac killer, silent black doctor man, mad Italian, please clap sad grampa, jittery only-sane-candidate-but-not-tea-party-enough kasich and orange literal-reality-tv-star baby man b(m)illionaire donald fucking trump? Try harder next time.
>>708903298
>Adults
>On /b/
Welcome to the internet, I'll be your guide.
>>708902559
>>708902559
>Not the guy your arguing with but you need to understand buisnesses dont want to pay their fair share, they will just head to china where they pay nothing.
They already do that now. Because they can.
>If we tax products coming in at a high rate it would make more sence for them to move here and pay (some) taxes.
There is no guarantee they wouldn't just take advantage of the lower tax rate and continue to do business overseas.
I asked the other anon: Can you even name ONE big business who's pledged to abide by Trump's proposal? I really doubt it.
>>708894147
Is voting mandatory in US? I assume so but I could be wrong.
>>708902951
Agreed.
With clinton is pretty much guaranteed shes gonna piss of Russia in Syria.
With Trump I imagine his focus is more on NOT kicking the Russian bear in the dick. (Also keeping the 'refugees' over there is a much better idea.
>>708902866
>>708902966
Nah Islam is pretty unique when it comes to this shit.
No other holy text has explicit calls to war. Seriously, you can look all you want, but it's just Islam.
One of the seven deadly sins in Islam is running from the battlefield. See how mental it is when compared to Christianity's sins like...pride?
It's a unique ideology that breeds horrible people. Saying it's the same as other religions is dishonest.
>>708894147
vote trump
hate hillary
>>708902577
Then you're fucking full of shit, because you implied that Mexicans would be doing all the labor jobs here.
>Raising the minimum wage would in turn raise the price of everything.
which is horseshit
>>708894147
hillary wants war with russia
if you don't want to glow in the dark vote trump
>>708903201
this^
not to mention hopefully it will change the republican platform and make them more moderate on social issues in upcoming election cycles. Unfortunately we have the electoral college so a 3rd party will almost never win unless our constitution is amended again.
Voting for Johnson or Stein will show the two major parties they have to make their platforms more moderate so they don't lose votes.
>>708899932
I agree. And the good black citizens that have taken the time to educate themselves and are honest and hard working, totally destroy the liberal "whitey is keeping us down" bull shit, because they don't stand in front of the liquor store or drug den waiting for a hand-out from the government. They don't need it.
If the US government ended all social welfare I wonder how fast all the welfare queens would rush out to TRY and find work?
>>708903355
Been here since 2004 thx though...
Trump mad because Hillary played the money game and beat him bad. Power>Money
>>708902966
If you don't see the difference between most religious books and the Quran then you need to educate yourself
The book itself and it's followers are dangerous to this planet.
>>708902817
I guess you can't do the math as to who took over Congress from 2010-present.
Republicans have been fucking this country by obstructing progressive proposals and countering with ZERO alternatives other than shutting down govt.
>>708894288
>88
but i thought trump was our guy
Youre a fucking retard.this trainwreck of an election has been going on for two fucking years,and with less than 20 days from the election,you still havent been able to pick one? Fuck off and deepthroat a bard wire,covered dildo
>>708903404
Lol no. Its not a obligation or civic duty its just an option if you care about who runs the country you live in. I wish more people wouldn't vote.
>>708900249
Its another toilet in a fucking hell hole.
>>708903089
I thought you were fucking done, TDE'er. :^)
> Implementing tariffs and lowering taxes will make America the most profitable area to operate from.
Sure thing, Mr. Happy Talk. :^)
>>708894861
liberal here and yes
>>708902559
The problem is that even in the ideal theory, this is extremely short term thinking that simply results in a race to the bottom where eventually businesses will pay barely anything anywhere.
The even bigger problem is that in practice it doesn't even really work in the first place. Businesses that care about minimizing their costs will still go to china anyway because they need to pay the workers less, barely anyone cares about the environment, etc.
Similarly historically lowering corporate taxes had almost no influence on any countries rates of firms leaving, because most firms stay for other reasons than cost. The only countries that really profit from lowered corporate taxes are countries where otherwise nobody would go ever.
>>708903441
Since when did republicucks become scared of starting a war? Scared of big bad putin lil bitch?
>>708903169
Actually my knowledge of current events tells me that Clinton is pushing for background checks and getting rid of sales loopholes, which has broad support from the public and is not un-Constitutional.
>>708897082
Does it make you hate white people more? I know it does for me.
>>708894147
Hillary - life long politician got rich by taking other people's $. The foundation is just a front for insider trading, arms deals with other countries, & pay for favors. Can't tell the fucking truth.
Trump - business man who would most likely surround himself with business like minds. Run the country like a business because it is. Isn't a life long politician.
>>708903169
Too bad you can't even provide one example of where Clinton has pledged to pass laws against hate speech. You're making shit up.
>>708903429
>>708903484
Can we drop the "war with Russia" bullshit, it's known that Putin stroked trumps ego just to get him in his pocket. And it worked like a charm. Trump thinks they are buddies, Putin thinks he's a clown.
>>708894147
Trump's economic policies will fuck you in the ass if you're not a millionaire. Bush-style top-earner tax cuts and he doesn't want to raise the minimum wage, for example, and IIRC might be one of the people who wants to get rid of minimum wage altogether. Also he wants to build a fuckoff huge wall, which would have to be a time-wall to keep the Mexicans from 2005 out (for reference: Mexican immigration has slowed the fuck down).
Vote Hillary because even though she's a corporate puppet too, she's a corporate puppet of the corporations which benefit from the working class having enough money to buy shit for leisure.
>>708903177
"potential" terrorists haven't done anything illegal. If they are American citizens then they have to be convicted of a crime to deprive them of their natural rights. You can't just have a secret meeting and decide someone who is a poetical opponent is too dangerous AND REMOVE RIGHTS THAT ARE NOT GRANTED BY THE GOVERNMENT. you fucking libshits don't seem to get that the rights enumerated in the constitution are not rights given by government they are human rights that the constitution is supposed to bind the government to uphold. You are born with the right to own a firearm for your defense and for your ability to form a militia to free yourself from oppressive government that would deny you THE RIGHTS ENUMERATED IN THE CONSTITUTION
if you are so worried about "potential terrorists" then stop shipping people from the middle east and africa over here and paying for them to live here for free. the "domestic terrorists" that the democrats are so worried about are fucking Americans who want the country to follow the laws it was founded on. and not one of them have killed anyone since the 90s.
black lives matter doesn't get branded as a terrorist group and the government isnt putting them on no fly lists THEY ARE FUCKING BRINGING THEM ON STAGE AT THE DNC.
>>708903710
>Actually my knowledge of current events tells me that Clinton is pushing for background checks and getting rid of sales loopholes, which has broad support from the public and is not un-Constitutional.
what loopholes. And don't just name the left's narrative, explain how they are supposed to work as a loophole.
>>708894147
>>708894321
>Saggy grandma boobs rater
>>708894321
yeah he does
have you seen that fat fuck?
Listen, dumbfucks. The presidency isn't the only thing you're voting for on you're ballot. You're voting for local politicians, and every state has different amendments and measures that may affect your personal life more than who's sitting in the oval office. Quit being apathetic edgelord retards just because "muh candidates are trash" and actually participate in your country's democracy, pussies.
What is ridiculous to me is how they can't pass simple bills, like budget bills, without trying to hide shit in them. Is this really the only way we can take action? By trying to hide it in obviously necessary bills and make the other party decide if it is a necessary evil to get the bill passed?
>>708903730
>Run the country like a business because it is.
A. It's not, the government is so big that money you put into the economy comes back to you to some extent through taxes.
B. If Trump ran the government the way he ran his businesses it'd go bankrupt lmao
>>708900524
Yes, another vote for clinton here! Open up the borders and give welfare to all the "new" citizens, fuck you cops and whiteys, clinton is gonna give us slaves millions as we've been kept down. Weezy were movin on up!
>>708903807
fuck you CTR shill
suck my dick
she did not even answer the question about shooting down a russian plane because she would
>>708903671
I think it's pretty funny how democrats have become frothing warmongers this election, calling anyone who doesn't support their imperialist agenda unpatriotic.
I'd die fighting for the constitution or something similar, but getting gunned down in the Siberian tundra because Clinton and her pals needed someone to blame the Deutcshe bank failure on? No, I'm not afraid to say I don't want that.
>>708903730
Hillary
>made more money than Trump by exploiting this country's laws
Literally Trump but more intelligent.
>>708903369
>There is no guarantee they wouldn't just take advantage of the lower tax rate and continue to do business overseas
they would end up paying more beacuse they would have to pay tax on sending product into our country
>>708903933
>B. If Trump ran the government the way he ran his businesses it'd go bankrupt lmao
Hook, line and sinker faggot. 4 bankruptcies out of how many?
>>708903817
Putting someone suspicious on a no-fly list is not "depriving them of their natural rights."
Take the fucking tinfoil off.
>if you are so worried about "potential terrorists" then stop shipping people from the middle east and africa over here and paying for them to live here for free
Actually you're the one presuming Guilt before Innocence here. GTFO my America.
>>708903476
Your reading comprehension is the problem here.
I implied that the labor workforce was the backbone to this country. I also said that illegals take those jobs from Americans.
How wouldn't it raise the price of everything? You think owners are going to pay them out of their own pockets?
>>708903817
>black lives matter doesn't get branded as a terrorist group and the government isnt putting them on no fly lists THEY ARE FUCKING BRINGING THEM ON STAGE AT THE DNC.
Black Lives Matter is as much a group, or as much organized, as "Anonymous."
>>708903813
This
I thought we moved past the 'THEY TOOK ER JOBSSS" thing
>>708894147
> Please support your arguments with facts I can go look at.
Google for yourself. The outlook is simple:
Hillary is a demonstrably corrupt cunt who takes money for positions of power.
Trump is a demonstrably corrupt cunt who hasn't had that opportunity yet but likely will do the exact same.
The choice is clear: you're fucked either way but with Trump there's a slim chance the top-level corruption will resist him for a short period, six months tops.
You've done this to yourselves America by letting politicians pick their own voting borders (gerrymandering) leading to a partisan support of left vs right, us vs them, and everyone banging their shields and waving their dicks around screaming at the other side.
Just take a look at their stances for yourself and see who you agree with the most.
http://2016election.procon.org/view.source-summary-chart.php
Logically Jill Stein is the best candidate if going off their stances alone.
Common sense tells me shes a jew and will keep status quo for the jews who currently own everything.
However she has no history of defending child rapists and laughing about it on tape. (Hillary)
http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-freed-child-rapist-laughed-about-it/
Or history riding on a private jet nicknamed the Lolita Express multiple times and multiple accusations of rape. (Both Bill Clinton and Trump)
http://www.dailywire.com/news/5749/both-trump-and-clinton-went-jeffrey-epsteins-sex-amanda-prestigiacomo#
Gary Johnson is Pro Private Prison and Private Social Security Systems, he's clearly a retard.
http://2016election.procon.org/view.source-summary-chart.php
Ultimately it doesn't matter which one of those four get into office we're fucked regardless; plus Diebold has already been caught and taken to supreme court for electric voting machine fraud.
http://www.hackingdemocracy.com/
Clearly it's an insult to our intelligence to waste time voting for anybody and thinking it's actually contributing to progress.
>>708903951
Such a thoughtful and intelligent response. Why is it do that when people become more educated that they also become more leftist/liberal? Just so weird right?
>>708904100
This :(
>>708903846
The "Gun Fair" loophole, which is that a sale from an individual (not a company) to another individual doesn't need any background checks.
>>708903846
Why do you gunfags always stall discussions by making your opponent define gun show/online sales loopholes?
You know wtf I'm talking about and it isn't un-Constitutional, either.
>the left's narrative
Both expanded background checks and closing the sales loopholes has broad support by the population. It is not "the left's narrative."
>>708895808
partly honest
>partly honest
>partly
>honest
>trump even less than half the time tells the truth about anything
FUCKIGN LMOA
>>708903730
The government is not a business. The government's job is to collect taxes in order to fund the military and to maintain a good Transit System. To pass laws That are equal and fair for its citizens. Medicare and Social Security are obviously necessary items, but beyond that the government has no function it does not create business it should not be allowed to throw money at any industry only to regulate it in the event that there is a problem with the safety of the public for the good of the people.
Vote gary johnson
>>708903947
But mah reparations
>>708904020
Been there, done that in this discussion.
All that company has to do is complain to the country it's set up shop in and that country would use its power of trade to punish us right back. Tariffs don't work, either. You live in a fantasy world where making the actual producers pay for their services simply isn't even a consideration.
>>708904153
i am not even an american
i just don't want war with russia
you stupid shill
>>708903962
I am pointing out how hollow and flip floppy your party is dipshit. Literally the exact same as the Democrats.
>die fighting for the constitution
Please tell us all about how much you love some bullshit a bunch of drunks wrote down 240 years ago. You would fill your pants if someone shot an air soft gun at you.
>>708903206
no i'm not. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/dec/29/california-gun-violence-restraining-order-law-goin/
https://www.nraila.org/articles/20150821/a-decade-later-remember-new-orleans-gun-confiscation-can-and-has-happened-in-america
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Defense_Authorization_Act_for_Fiscal_Year_2012
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Act
>>708903710
there is no such thing as a loophole you fucking faggot.
the "gunshow loophole" IS PRIVATE PERSON TO PERSON SALES which has been around since the beginning of time. there is no tricks of the law. The "online loophole" still involves getting a background check you have to have the gun shipped to an FFL and get a background check there.
you don't know what the fuck you are talking about.
>>708904284
Did you even read what you typed out? The first half of your paragraph and the end of your paragraph contradict each other
>>708904215
>The "Gun Fair" loophole, which is that a sale from an individual (not a company) to another individual doesn't need any background checks.
False. Ever been to a gun show? Each table should and will have someone who is a FFL. (Federal Firearms Licencer)
If they don't do a back ground check there at the table you purchase from, they are already breaking a federal law.
So again, what new laws are needed?
>>708904249
Media cuck detected
>>708904153
i am alot more anti-hillary than pro-trump
if you think trump is literally Hitler just vote for a thrid party
>>708904068
No faggot, you keep making the same stupid argument and I keep handing you your ass every time you reply. If you believe Mexicans are taking our jobs, then you need to work for $5 an hour for some blustering AZ Republican wearing a wifebeater.
>raising the min wage
>How wouldn't it raise the price of everything?
Expecting me to prove your argument for you?
Good one, Trumpfag.
>>708901113
Maybe by working WITH are adversaries rather than confronting them militarily by trying to defeat them by spending them into oblivion would be a new idea?
I mean, start by cancelling the air planes, carriers and tanks and standing back and letting the UN do its job is that such a bad thing? Maybe with the trillions we save, we can plow that back into road repair or free college for starters.
Thats why I see the need for a new idea, like Trump.
>>708904028
Now lets cross off all the ones started by his father and only highlight the ones he had a personal hand in making.
There is this big table of executives who make all the real decisions about his companies and every once in a while he comes in and says "guys we should sell steaks!" and they all smile and nod until he goes away.
>>708904284
$ comes in, $ goes out.
Sit in meetings with trade deals & other countries to discuss current events.
Thats a business.
>>708904100
>durr google muh conspiracees for me
>google it durr hurr
kek
>>708903756
http://townhall.com/columnists/jpmoran/2015/06/25/hello-hillary-2016--goodbye-first-amendment-n2016918
she was part of a positive vote for blaspheme laws in the UN protecting islam from hate speech.
>>708900524
>Teenagers who have $900,000 per year trust funds and own helicopters grow up into "people who strive for greatness"
>People who work 60 hours a week just so they can barely afford a one-room apartment because that's what it's possible for them to have in the free market with no government assistance are "lazy fucks"
ebin, simply ebin
>>708901239
Forced socialization is not good
>>708904392
Washington times is owned by the Moonies, anon
not really a source
>>708903441
don't cherrypick. other holy texts also encourage and glorify genocide and human sacrifice and other similarly dangerous ideologies, it's just that [spoiler] your dad didn't put those biases into you when you were a kid[/spoiler]
>also mfw "I'd die fighting for the constitution or something similar"
look in the goddamn mirror duder.
>Please support your arguments with facts I can go look at.
Only two posts in this entire thread actually posted source material and one of them isn't even talking about the current election:
>>708904148
>>708904392
Come on guys get your shit together.
>>708904063
>Putting someone suspicious on a no-fly list is not "depriving them of their natural rights."
>get put on list with no notification
>when you are on this list you are not allowed to own firearms
>the police do a no knock raid because you are prohibited person
>you either get shot or they take your property
that is a violation of your second and fourth amendment right.
>>708904381
That document those drunks wrote laid the foundation for the freest country on the earth. That's not a meme, freedom of speech, self-protection from government, right to vote, etc.
>fill your pants
Hard to find meaning in life, if I could die for something that mattered I would count it as a good life. I'm not larping or anything here, it's just called values.
>>708904392
>there is no such thing as a loophole you fucking faggot.
"The term refers to the concept that a loophole in federal law exists, under which "[a]ny person may sell a firearm to an unlicensed resident of the state where they reside, as long as they do not know or have reasonable cause to believe the person is prohibited from receiving or possessing firearms".[2][3][4]"
Yes or no?
>>708904613
Townhall is a derpy right-wing rag, anon
not really a source
>>708904776
which is bullshit, and you have no proof that due process of law is being ignored
>>708904070
and some random guy who keeps food and ammo in his cabin is a more organized threat?
