Psychedelics Thread.
>what substances have you already tried
>what music do you prefer listening to while tripping
>tell your story if you want
Me:
>2C-B, Shrooms, LSD
>most of the time no music, psytrance, ambient or old classics like the other side of the moon
>>708630265
Even though this /thread will die out in 20 seconds or so...
>Acid, Mescaline, Shrooms, DXM, Ketamine.
>Drum And Bass, Psy-Trance, Dark Ambient, Hip Hop.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x224q5_d12-purple-pills_music
Shrooms only, want to try dmt
I dont listen to music while tripping
>>708630265
my last lsd trippin' was on three brown microdorts
>>708630265
LSD, shrooms, dmt, doi/b/c 2ci/b/e, DXM, and Ketamine.
>Listen to Pink Floyd, BT, Trance. Also lock picking around on my guitar and watching movies like A Scanner Darkly, Alice, etc.
>>708630265
I've tried lsd and shrooms. Both were good experiences. I don't really have music I've consistently listened to while tripping.
Psychedelics Thread.
>what substances have you already tried
2cb, 2ce, mdma, LSD, shrooms, DXM, DMT, blue bats (i think 2ce &25-c) and a few others but im too high to recall
>normally psych rock, ambient, post-rock, and a bit of psytrance
>what music do you prefer listening to while tripping
>tell your story if you want
>acid
>shrooms
>dxm
>dmt
I dont usually listen to music when i trip cos im usually wandering around a forest or laying near a camp fire
>>708630564
Is Ketamine actually a psychedelic? I only heard that its very chill. But there is something called K-Hole do you have experience with it?
I did acid for the first time about 4 days ago. Shit was crazy, people say its like shrooms but it wasn't very much at all. I did enjoy it a lot, in still trying to wrap my head around the whole thing though
I have a question
I have about 6 tabs of acid that's been sitting in my car all Summer in a jar. Do you think it would still be safe to take it? Would it still be potent?
I've never done acid before, and I just wanted to make sure it's safe
>>708630910
im this guy but yes it is, though doing the racemic version is way less psychadelic then the superior s-isomer.
if you k-hole you go into a coma and trip for a while
>>708630843
Cocaine and Steely Dan
>>708631107
After a long night of LSD and Ketamine
>>708631037
I tried a tab 2 weeks ago which was lying 3 months around without being in a fridge or something. shit was really potent and a lot stronger than expected
>>708631107
After a long night of LSD and Ketamine listening to cool jazz, ambient, chill out synth bullshit like tycho
OP here
you can also post your favorite places to trip, it really interests me
Mushrooms and Acid
Whatever I feel like listening to, the last time I tripped on shrooms I listened to a Keane song and it was orgasmic.
>>708631037
It's going to be really weak.
Acid doesn't degrade into anything harmful, but heat and light make it degrade relatively fast so if it was in your car all summer it's going to be pretty shitty acid.
Take a hit and see what it does, you're probably going to have to take a lot more. Also wait like 2 weeks before you do it again or you're not going to feel anything, acid tolerance builds INSTANTLY and fast.
Shrooms a handful of times, LSD once.
I went to E Zoo in NYC this year and took shrooms for most if it, it was a good call, very fun.
>>708631325
When I did lsd, I started out in a public park and then went to a friends apartment when it became overwhelming. I tried the shrooms at a rave and spent the duration of the trip there.
I'm >>708630826 by the way.
>>708631596
By fast I meant heavily, a few months ago I took 3 hits after taking 1 the night before, and the trip was weaker than the first night.
I'll list what I've had with a quick rating
2CB - great, good for redosing after 4 hours
2CC - like 2CB but more colourful
2CD - only useful to combine with other psychedelics
2CE (fun but powerful, wouldn't redose)
2C-T7 - mild colours, made me spontaneously puke as idiscussed had some coke as well
2CP - like 2CE
DOC - good trip but heavy body load
Mescaline - enjoyable trip, but other substances are more fun imo
LSD - love the stuff, on a par with 2CB/2CC
1P-LSD - just like regular LSD really
5-Meo-MIPT - great trip with great visuals, but felt like I was having a heart attack for half an hour during come up.
Shrooms- fun trip, especially when sat in vondel park
DMT - fun stuff, handy if you want a quick trip but can't commit to a full night.
MDA - euphoria, more erotic than MDMA (combined the 2 are amazing)
Ket - not particularly a fan of it, had it a few times but just doesn't appeal to me.
The only things left i want to try are the thioescalines and thiomescalines (3TE, 4TE, 3TM and 4TM) they all sound fun to do but 3TE can give you pleasure from music and art, as well as distorting time. 3TM can cause synaesthesia with music
Like a lot of music so I'll listen to alsorts but I do love trance
>>708631596
>>708631754
Also one more thing, do some of your own research before you do psychedelics.
Don't just ask people on fucking /b/, this shit isn't weed they're powerful mind altering substances.
>>708632087
I know its kinda impossible but can you explain the feeling of LSD combined with 2C-B. I have tried both seperately so that maybe makes it easier for you to explain.
MDA sounds very nice too, have you tried it with a girl?
Lsd, Nbome, shrooms, 4-aco-dmt, al-lad. All fun substances besides Nbome. Thought i was gonna die on that shit and it was sold to me as lsd which can be lethal.
>>708632498
I've not combined it, I just meant on a whole it's a similar trip to 2CB (duration, visuals, body load)
MDA is just amazing stuff. Whilst MDMA gives you that loved up feeling and leaves you tingling all over, MDA goes that stage further and gives you wave after wave of rushy euphoria. The 2 mixed together (about 100mg MDMA, 80mg mda) gives you a nice balance but will leave your eyes rolling! Had it my gfs and my wife and few times, but generally been too mashed to have sex. Sex on 2CXs is fucking awesome though!
Think I'm going to have to have a session this weekend. We've got time off work next week and my wife's work place drug tests randomly so have to have a week to clear her system. Got 6 tabs of 1P-LSD and 150mg of DMT to split between us
>>708632631
Was tempted to try Nbomes but heard bad things about them. I'd rather just have real 2CB or at least beta ketone-2CB
>>708632087
Where did you obtain your knowledge and experience with these substances? These are not just simple street drugs, what's your background in chemistry and psychopharmacology? I'm very interested in this field of study and would like to move into it once I'm done working for the govt
>>708630265
I've tried basically every psychedelic
Anything chill/chill hop stuff or future bass
took 5mg of LSD yeah i know fucking ridiculous but my whole room was swaping fucking textures (ceiling on the floor) etc. and I could literally see the music (shpongle) at the time floating across the room.. it was great tho best trip to this day
>>708632087
dutchnigga you should give a try DOI if you can find it.
I'm waiting for a shitload of ALD-52 these days, gonna put it on blotter paper asap.
I love taking mushrooms, iboga and ayahuasca. I usually take them i silent darkenss in my apartment with lots of bud to be smoked
>>708633185
Guess I was lucky to make friends with a guy who had sources for these things. I'd already tried MDMA, MDA, ket and LSD before but then got to try my way through other compounds.
I have always been interested in science and love organic chem (although I did drop out of uni, but worked in various labs since). I like how a tiny tweak to the molecule can make a major change to its effects
>>708633256
DOI could be fun, but I'm assuming as it's the amphetamine analog of 2CI it'll be quite a dark trip. I've not had 2CI but from friends accounts it's visuals are darker than 2CB so I assume DOI will be similar but longer lasting
25B-NBome LSD, shrooms and truffles
sbrtkt wildfire -aqua sounds
>>708633567
I had a not so bad trips (15h lasting) with a lot of visuals on DOI, fun things is that we bought 50mg of that thinkin it was some unpure LSD, after a GCMS it went out as DOI so instead of throwing it away we laid a lot of it to blotter paper and market as DOI, this was almost 5 years ago, too bad I don't have any more of it.
Tried purchasing LSD from a dealer and they gave me 25i-Nbome, tripped on it anyway because I didn't care but that was my first psychedelic Don't seem to know anybody that could hook me up with proper LSD :(.
>>708633412
Have you referenced the shulgin index? He characterized hundreds of these and is basically known as the grandfather of psychotropics, without detail where are you from? Does your friend use go, gcms or hplc for confirmation of relative potency? I've always had a bit of worry for people participating in the uses of these substances for the fact that the nature of drug suppliers is to cut or not care about contamination. I would imagine with a lot of these there is a reliability factor since they just can't be synthesized with shit off the street, so a source must be relatively reliable in technique and source of materials with a potential to lose ones job
>>708633949
I'm in the uk. I've read through PIKHAL, it's whereally I picked up on the thioescalines and thiomescalines (annoyingly I only recently discovered they were never made illegal until the new drugs act came in a few months ago. I could have got them synthesised if I'd known earlier!). Must admit I do feel slight disappointment that for everything I've tried I've yet to have a proper ++++, although a strong mda experience can leave you feeling egoless.
My friend used to order things from Chinese chemists as they'd make things to high standard with no questions asked. They even came with certificates of analysis. One good thing is that because these compounds are such tiny doses, vendors generally don't rip you off. It'd be noticeable if a correct dose didn't do what it's supposed to and they want repeat customers so they're less likely to cut it or give you fake products.
And some of the psychedelics aren't an easy synthesis, you do need relatively pure precursors to start with.
Only LSD for me, numerous times, always outside in nature, exploring its infinite supply of wonderful shapes. The only thing I really really want to try out is DMT.
I don't always listen to music, but the LOTR soundtrack and anything by Jeremy Soule is never wrong
I've triiped on 0.6 mg of NBOMe b+c six times. At last one i had really awful bad-trip so now I can't enjoy pot, I feel like I'm forgetting to breath. This shit sucks.
>>708634463
Make your own DMT. If you can legally purchase the bark in your country, you only need a few easily available chemicals to extract it
Listen to Dexter Wansel
>>708634543
Yeah, I've looked at some instructions for that, but I think importing the bark is illegal here (Norway)
Do truffles get stronger over time?
I had some stored for a few months in a see through lunchbox in my room. Not in the fridge or away from daylight.
The first time I took some was a really good experience, everything chill.
After keeping them for a few months I thought they'd weakened so I took a tiny little bit more but i freaking lost my shit. 3D rainbows in the room and everything. waaay too overwhelming.
Anyone with comparable experience?
>>708630265
Is it safe to buy illegal drugs from deepweb?
Which "shops" are good n trustworthy? if u have experience..and what package look like? can someone (customs) find what is it if they open it?
thank you for reply
>>708634906
Did they dry out a bit? Drying can help increase potency, it's why if you've got shrooms they're best either dried out of brewed in a tea
>>708634906
small detail: i had to wash a small white layer of mold of. They seemed perfectly fine underneath
>>708634446
Be careful with the analogues of these substances as well should you move to them as they might become more prohibited by law. Here in the us they are blanket banning substances based on the parent molecule, where even if you have an analogue that was not on a registered list of banned substances before and considered legal until the NIH, FDA, DEA could review and make a decision on legality. Because of the synthetic derivatives associated to cannabinoids that flooded the world they have changed the way the laws read here. Analogues would sit for years waiting to be decided on and technically legal, lawmakers didn't like that and changed it to where they can assume that a molecule is dangerous if they can basically prove it can be derived from a parent psychodelic. Which is chem fags know is pretty barbaric since we know that with enough time and chemical process you can derive just about anything from anything.
>>708635042
not really, they developed a more rubbery texture when i was eating them
Me and a friend are gonna be trying 100uG of Al-lad. This is our first psychedelic. Any tips?
>>708635028
Done it quite a few times, make sure you read reviews left by other people. Some are genuine and will send quality stuff out, others will say they've sent it but it never arrives.
Always encrypt your address using PGP when you send it to the vendor and consider using a fake name. It's not like the package will be sent by recorded delivery, so no need to ever sign for the package. The package will most likelyou be a small jiffy bag or a plain envelope, with the product usually vacuum packed inside.
I used dream market with no issues and used silk road before the bust
some guy gave me some liquid lsd at the boom festival in Portugal. No visuals or whatsoever but how i felt that day.. everything made me happy and at peace. i completely understood the world. that shit cray
>>708631107
steely dan
>>708630265
>what substances have you already tried
2C-B / E / I / t-2
LSD, Psilocybin mushrooms, 4-aco-dmt, DMT, DOB
never had nbome's, never even heard of xTE/xTM but I've been out of the loop for a bit.
>what music do you prefer listening to while tripping
no music, unless I'm at a festival. Then darkpsy
>>708635117
The UKs new drug act is more retarded than the US analog act. It's based on the question "could this substance be dangerous?". It's pretty much if the police decide that something is psychoactive, even if really weak then it's illegal. It's not even a logical law based on existing substances
>>708635507
Not many have heard of the TE/TMs, I only heard of them by reading through PIKHAL.
Theres another group of compounds called the 2CGs. 2CG5 is supposed to be just like 2CB but lasts for 48 hours!
>>708634906
psilocybin is destroyed on molecule level by light or air.(don't know is it O2 or CO2 or all gases)
best way is to cut shroom/truffles in small pieces and put it in honey and dark.
myb u re dealing with bacteria inside which boost buzz.
my friend was holding weed in bong w/ water for 2-3 months, because of lot of water something happend to weed and it become much stronger. after he smoked it he saw a polar parrot in his room
>>708635507
Yeah nigga post some of yours darkpsy favourite tracks.
>>708630265
>Shrooms, LSD, 2ce, mescaline, peyote, DMT.
>Jam bands mainly jam grass
>If I'm tripping with my gf she's plays "the general" by dispatch 1000 times in a row and I go outside and look at the moon
>>708630265
I'll tell the story of my first LSD trip
>long-ass day finished
>take tab
>take shower
>get comfy at my pc just as i'm starting to come up
>listen to this song
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ufk7uoVyOMI
>play along on my bass
>proceed to repeat ten times
>eventually get bored
>play CS:GO
>apparently your reflexes get a boost when on LSD because I wrecked shit
>start playing elite dangerous
>start exploring the galaxy
>listen to this song
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liEHDMrnUcc
>become overwhelmed by the beauty of the universe
>cry
>park my spaceship above a star
>start rolling a cigarette
>goodbye moonmen
>fuck yea
>>708636063
pic related one of the many screenshots I took on that journey. Sorry for the shit quality my PC sucks
>>708630265
>what substances have you already tried
Psychedelics: 1P-LSD, ETH-LAD, 4-AcO-MET, 2C-B-FLY
I'll not list the other drugs.
>what music do you prefer listening to while tripping
Goa, Psytrance, Santo & Johnny, Psychedelic Rock..
And other stuff..
Once I heard a song from the Russian red army choir on full volume on headphones. It was overwhelming.
>>708636063
>Cobra
poorfag detected
>>708630265
I'm on some 2-MeO-Diphenidine right now. First time on a disassociative. Someone talk to me.
>>708636358
That's an ASP scout though with that quality I wouldn't blame you
3-AcO DMT Is fucking great fyi . Body high felt like blowing a load x1000 and the visuals are strong as fuck. A wee bit of upper feel almost like amphetamines and not exactly a 'clean' high but I'd recommenced to anyone at least once.
Only thing if it counts is weed and I listen to the Macintosh plus album on repeat or songs at 0.5 their normal speed. Once I tried to type my thoughts as fast as I thought them which resulted in a clusterfuck of a word file thats still on my computer. My brain kind of slowed down to where it couldnt really keep up with itself and I kept looping my thoughts (thinking about what i was thinking about what i was thinking about, etc.) Freaked me out.
>>708636520
I meant to say 4-aco dmt, clearly stated in picture. Lack of sleep.
>>708636063
on shrooms looking at sunset about 40min and listening to goodye moonman all the time.
that song is best shit ever when fucked up, cant imagine how good is it on LSD.
check those too:
>joji
>do you feel it by chaos chaos
>>708636515
Ok I'll let you off
>>708636534
Care to share the file? I also wanna try that
Who here has read through PIHKAL and TIHKAL? Anyone have experience with synthesis of these substances?
>>708636555
i know 'em. wubba lubba dub dub!
>>708630265
I tried changa (dmt) and magic truffles.
As for music, I prefer music like Meddle by Pink Floyd and a couple of similar albums, but Alt-J kinda works well too
first i eat the mushroom then i trip the balls
tripping by yourself is intense, looking at the mirror is intense
i wish i had a pet to chill with when i trip
>>708635221
Anyone tried al-lad before?
>>708636912
Yeah. Mirrors are satan, pretty much
>>708636728
ma men!
>>708636850
how was your changa experience and how long did it last?
Are you not scared to be on psychedelics without music? I always get loop thoughts so I can't even return in reality. For example, I think "I not to eat/drink" hundred times, but keep laying on bed. I feel I need to control the time by listening music.
I'm usually busy thinking about stuff or just looking at stuff to listen to music
>>708637027
You need to learn to let go my friend. Let 'em take you on the journey. Why take them if you wanna stay in one place mentally? You can do that when sober.
I'll tell you guys that you shouldn't do psys too much at all. I've been doing them more than I should lately and I think it's contributing to my fluctuating feelings and thought patterns (which makes you feel like you're going insane sometimes, and it's also just a part of my personality originally) and I think i'm developing mild HPPD, which isn't terrible but some people may not like. Just a word of caution, maybe only trip a couple times a year
>>708636063
This is professional, kudos fellow starman
>>708636996
It was amazing, to be honest. As soon as I started exhaling I started to feel this pressure on my third eye, and I closed my eyes and I was in this neon forest with all kinds of little beings and machines making weird sounds and trying to talk to me. It felt like pure love, haha
>>708636996
Also, it lasted about 15 minutes, I think
>>708637167
aren't your trips intense enough that afterwards you go "huh maybe i'll wait a bit before I jump into that again?"
>>708637171
Fly safe, commander. Watch out for thargoids!
>>708636063
Psys definitely increase coordination or reflex if you get the dosage right. I played Halo once while on a single dose of L and I was playing as good as I had been in my prime, it also makes you feel physically on point
>>708637167
>only trip a couple times a year
This. I've eaten LSD weekly and the effect starts to wear down if you do it too often. You'll still trip but it won't be as great as if you wait a bit. Best to wait at least 3 months before tripping again on LSD if you want the full effect.
>>708637167
I always waited at least a week before tripping again. Only done acid.
>>708637368
I usually go big because I am more comfortable with high doses, but I was experimenting with microdosing mushrooms which didn't bring me too much benefit. I haven't spaced my trips out as much as I should, and I guess I have a bit of an addictive personality. Tripping makes me feel like I access cosmic intelligence lol
>>708632087
I like to trip in vondelpark too
Love to smoke and then eat poffertjes
>>708630265
I take LSD and longboard around my college campus at night listening to tool, kendrick lamar, 10 years, old breaking benjamin, bill withers, and more. Only listening to one genre of music is boring to me.
>>708637441
Technically the body's natural resistance LSD wears off after two weeks but I would recommend a full month between trips. It depends on the dosage too.
>>708637739
resistance to LSD* fuck my typing
>>708630265
>LSD, Shrooms, 2C-B
Don't know really how to describe the music; kind of trancey house, i.e Fineshrine-Purity Ring is a golden album
cba to story
I only do LSD gonna do shrooms possibly soon, here's my LSD playlist: https://open.spotify.com/user/jmayo4367/playlist/422IaqWHKnYQ9HaeG7s1OD
>>708637389
Working on my copy of '84 Elite on the ZX spectrum atm man, totally ahead of it's time! Got sick of grinding in E:D and I left my acorn Archimedes in the cupboard with the best version but you should totally check it out :P
Anyone ever used San Pedro cactus? Thought it'd be fun to buy some seeds and grow it myself. Actually saw a potted one at Home Depot the other day, which was a bit surprising
>>708637154
You are absolutely right, my friend. I'm beginner in psychedelics and it feel too strong for me. I prefer to keep a piece of me in reality to stay calm. I often start freaking out after being "sucked" in myself too deep.
>>708638090
What did you take so far and how much? Maybe lower the dosage so you can practice on a lower intensity. Set and setting is important too. Make sure you are in a safe environment. Maybe get a trip sitter?
>>708630265
>>what substances have you already tried
LSD, shrooms, 2C-I, 2C-E 4-HO-MET
>>what music do you prefer listening to while tripping
psy-trance ofc
>>tell your story if you want
had 14 mg of 4-ho-met (metocin) last night, was pretty weird, didn't expect much but was mindfucky for a few hours. Visuals only lasted like 20 mins which was a shame. My gf said i was acting totally normal too which was curious
I feel that I have to increase the interval between LSD trips a little each time, so as to preserve the novelty and keep the bad feelings at bay. Started out with once a week, and now it's about once every two months
>>708637988
Oh my god you are a legend! I might actually. I don't grind anymore, I just play casually. Put on a chill playlist and explore. Waiting for more types of planets to be available
>>708638727
but the Imperial Cutter :O I need dis
>>708637988
Also wanna check out Jacques space so i'm headed there now
>>708634906
just set and setting unless you took more (by accident?). I had no visuals on truffles even at about 20g, just super high.
>>708635028
>Is it safe to buy illegal drugs from deepweb?
yes
>>708635114
they do that, if you feed them the mould grows into more truffles
>>708635507
what's DOB like? I have some here but I'm not sure what to expect. Like 2c-x but longer? Or more like LSD, which it's sometimes sold as? trippy or high?
>>708635745
>psilocybin is destroyed on molecule level by light or air.(don't know is it O2 or CO2 or all gases)
not by any significant amount, especially in a cupboard or fridge
>>708638624
mix it up with combinations, different settings, different doses, etc
>>708638827
has a nice cockpit view but apart from that doesn't do much for me. For now I'm satisfied with my ASP Explorer. Would like to get an Anaconda but not gonna happen too soon
>>708637167
I've have got HPPD after doing LSD two times. These low noticeable visuals which stays 1-4 seconds after closing your eyes are really weird, but not disturbing, I got used to it after two monts. But these auras of glowing objects in the dark are so fucking harmful and disturbing. I can't fucking drive a car/moto after 7PM.
can u guys share some of ur discoveries on psychedelics
>>708639309
I used to have a very shallow view of other people . I didn't really think of them as three-dimensional beings with full-fledged back stories. But then everything changed when the LSD nation attacked
Tried:
>2C-E, 2C-B, 25i nBOME, MDMA, DMT, MXE, Shrooms, LSD, 4-AcO-DMT
Can listen to almost any kinds of music while tripping. Although I must say that silence is probably what I prefer.
done LSD 13 times
best song to listen to
>take a walk on the wild side
it's magical
>>708639858
I know just what you mean anon.
I always considered myself very empathetic and able to put my self in others shoes.
It was only after a few trips I felt exactly what you are saying.
It's like going from
>oh they are sad because they lost their job. I would be sad too. Hope things turn around for them
To
>the realisation that the other person has a totally different way of seeing and feeling the world due to physiological, psychological, chemical, hormonal differences. Not to mention all their life experiences would not only be totally different but interpreted differently shaping them on this journey to this point making them what they are.
Can't really explain it. Really tired.
>dmt and lsd
>I listen to flying lotus and the mars volta
>>708630265
>Acid, DMT(never broke through), Shrooms, Salvia... also had some weird MDMA that made me trip out
worth noting this was my first experience with drugs other than weed.
Friend buys 12 tabs off deep web(250ug per), we go to a park and both drop 1 tab each, we waited 40 mins and still we werent tripping so we decided to drop more I dropped an extra 1 and a half. 10 minutes later im tripping major balls. Walking around fucked off my tits for about 3-4 hours then the night times came, we some how managed to get onto a bus with no money, lucky for us some beta faggot that was in my year at school was on the same bus we told him that he had to stop the bus for us when we got to our stop as we had no idea what realm we were in. Bus ride ends and were walking to a local stoner hotspot meet up with a few mates still lost as fuck. we found them but at this point i didnt know where i was or who i was. Near the end of my trip these girls i knew with took me to the mcdonalds cafe thing and i was just watching the McCafe sign melt and fall onto the floor and reform right back into the same spot it had just melted from. after the fatties ate mcdonalds i went back to theirs and they chucked on some mario kart(Rainbow Road) >the weirdest thing ive played on acid
Trip ends so i go home, didnt sleep for 2 days after it.
>most fucked experience of my life i told myself i wouldnt do any psychedelics after that.
>dropped acid every weekend after that for 2 months
>>708641735
Just to add:
LSD at least a few times a year for 15 years
Mushrooms throughout late autumn winter for about 20 years
Few research chemicals (2ci? or something)
DMT twice
Ayahuasca once
Can't really remember. As above tired.
Ketemine gets pretty mad if for a short time but your tolerance builds so fast it is only with doing weekly or so.
Also Sylvia is a bit hit or miss when smoked. Grow some and leave the leaves in your mouth to dissolve and watch the stars. You won't know where you have been.
>>708630265
Are you me? (of course you are, this is psychedelic thread!)
I love full-on goa, psytrance in general when tripping
>>708641735
exactly. you need to experience it to really know it
>>708642198
If you buy from a dodgy source you always feel ripped off for the first hour or so. Then beautiful for the next 8 or so.
I have fallen for the trap of taking more just before you come up. Same with pills.
Luckily I get it straight from the "chemist" now so just buy bottles rather than tabs
>>708642198
forgot to put music
>Sphongle, Kenny Rodgers, Bob Dylan, Jump up DnB, dubstep.
The DnB and dubstep make my visuals change
![BZsq4Yc[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/795XdpK.jpg "BZsq4Yc[1].jpg")
>>708639309
>>708642198
>DMT (never broke through)
Is DMT breakthrough an ego death (which isn't rare on DMT) or something else?
>>708636912
on a 200ug LSD trip I looked into my phone to put music on then caught my reflection in the screen.
My face was morphing around into every kind of facial expression that a human can express. Got way too intense and looked away as I felt a bad time coming on once I started looking into the black of my pupils.
Still ended up in a bad trip though but the eternity before that was absolute peaks above heaven
>>708639309
literally nothing matters.
>>708644179
>Never broke through
Im not sure, some of my friends have seen how they are going to die
>>708645123
Ive realised this
>>708645157
My first year of college we had a guy die in his sleep
>>708645220
I've known this since realising the universe will end eventually but to actually have smack your head with realisation which such significance is another thing
>>708630265
DMT, LSD, Shrooms, MDMA
Listen to Beats Antique on DMT and you're in for a wild ride
ive been smoking weed hard for over a year now and ive done mdma 4 times. the last time i done it there was a bit of wigging out with it, i was completely happy with it happening but hallucinations were there, closed eye and open eye. tracers and peoples faces changing and thinking inanimate objects were people.
i really want to try psilocybin. will i be able to try it without dying? my heads in a good place at the moment for it.
>>708644179
>Is DMT breakthrough an ego death (which isn't rare on DMT) or something else?
no, a DMT breakthrough is when you go to a place more real than your everyday reality. way beyond the fractals. it's the near death experience rather than ego death, in my experience.
>>708630265
>what substances have you already tried
LSD, 2C-B, 25i-NBOMe, Shrooms, 1P-LSD
>what music do you prefer listening to while tripping
Psy Trance, Hip Hop, Rap, etc.
Most of the 2-cb style phenethylamines, mdma, ketamine, dxm, LSD, most of the lysergamide variants on the RC market, 5-meo-dmt, 4-aco-dmt.
Future house or other EDM.
AMA
>>708645930
of course you can do it without dying. inform yourself about the dosage and you will be safe. had an absolute mind blowing experience with 2g's
>>708639309
Objective reality is only values. We are biological machines specialized to make sense of them in terms of what is relevant to us. Different "softwares" and "operating systems" will result in different takes on reality, and the potential perspectives are endless.
>>708644179
>>708646002
I've been exploring with DMT just about everyday for the past 3 years of my life and I can tell you there is a difference between "breaking through into hyperspace" and "dying / other side".
>>708630265
>Shrooms, LSD, DMT, 2C-B
>Gorillaz, Pink Floyd, ambient stuff, also I think it's fun to make music with my slackline by sitting in it and drumming against it with my fingers
>>708630265
My friend is a first timer, and she wants to know if it's safe to drop acid alone while she stays in her room? She has no one to guide/watch her, so she's nervous about doing it alone
I've done acid twice but I wouldn't really call it tripping. The first time, I just felt really happy and my penis felt amazing, also felt highly derealized. The second time, I had no trippy effects but I felt a slight high. If I stared at my friends face during the come up, he started to resemble different animals, but that lasted like less than an hour and the rest of the night was just not trippy at all (went to a concert as well).
>>708647341
She shouldn't be doing it alone on her first time.
A guide is a good idea even for people who have done it many times.
>what substances have you already tried
LSD and Shrooms
>what music do you prefer listening to while tripping
Usually stuff like TWRP/NSP
>tell your story if you want
First time I tripped(shrooms) I was grooving out and having a great time. It's worth mentioning I was 16 at the time. My mum came up to say goodnight and stuff and noticed my sister's computer was still on. She asked me to turn it off. Had no idea what to do since it was my first time touching a Mac computer. Fiddled around with the mouse for a few seconds before yanking the power cable from the wall and running back to my room.
>>708646539
>Objective reality is only values. We are biological machines specialized to make sense of them in terms of what is relevant to us. Different "softwares" and "operating systems" will result in different takes on reality, and the potential perspectives are endless.
This is pretty much my conclusion as well. I listen to a lot of Terence Mckenna talks, and his stuff about psychedelic shamanism has a similar ring to it: It's just people using the same tool to construct a fuller understanding of reality based on their own prior experience and perceptions.
>>708647588
>Terence Mckenna talks,
I.e., https://archive.org/details/PsychedeliaRawArchivesOfTerenceMckennaTalks
>>708647385
Forgot to finish my fucking post. Do I simply need to do a higher dose? I'm completely missing out on all the craziness people experience when they talk about acid, the visuals and the new thought patterns.
>>708647608
Also, he's a pseudoscientist and numerologist, but there's still lots of value there. I wish I could have gotten ahold of him and taught him some critical thinking (phil PhD here), because I think he's a goddamn master at conversational English.
First time I took LSD a song by Yes started playing, "Almost Like Love", and just the intro itself blew me to the moon.
Yes is the ultimate tripping band.
LSD, PCP, Ketamine, Shrooms, Peyote, San Pedro Cactus
>Has anyone done any indole research chemicals like 1P-LSD? Is it actually like LSD? I want to try it
I've got a question for you all
Has anyone else ever experienced that you cannot understand language anymore when you're tripping? (On high doses?)
Once when I was tripping a friend started speaking to me, and it went fine a few seconds into the conversation (which felt like hours), but then all I could hear him say was "blahblagh, blarghblah", it literally sounded like gibberish. Like my brain couldn't translate or something.
I thought he was messing with me at first, but then the same thing happened when we were watching TV; I couldn't understand what they were saying.
I wasn't really freaked out by it either, it just sounded so silly that I got into a laughing fit.
This has only happened to me once, but has anyone else experienced something similar?
>>708647437
She has no one to guide her though, what do you recommend for her? How does she go about finding a guide?
>>708647908
see >>708646219
I have done both and it's like acid I'd say 95% same effect
Some people say 1P-LSD will convert to Acid(LSD-25) in your body.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1P-LSD
>>708648166
>Once when I was tripping a friend started speaking to me, and it went fine a few seconds into the conversation (which felt like hours), but then all I could hear him say was "blahblagh, blarghblah", it literally sounded like gibberish. Like my brain couldn't translate or something.
Yes I have. On acid it feels like I don't understand the words coming out of my mouth, but I'm still able to participate in a conversation. The conversation proceeds without me even grasping wtf I'm saying. Weird as balls.
>>708648234
I'm not the one you replied to, but when I'm tripping alone I feel really comforted just by knowing that this place exists on the net:
https://www.reddit.com/r/TripSit/
>>708648476
Visuals and stuff the same? And what about high doses? Is it deadly like NBOMe?
Is 4-ACO-DMT safe? Has anyone tried it? Seems like the 4-ACO-DMT that online vendors sell could be impure, is it worth the risk?
>>708630265
Anyone ever tried 5 MeO-DMT? I heard it's some super knock-out stuff for some spiritual shit.
>>708648888
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxXdVVptwHo
>>708648707
I took 100µg 1P-LSD visuals and stuff like that are really similar.
No it's not deadly like 25i-NBOMe.
Also I had no visuals on 25i-NBOMe I just felt like a retard every time after a laughing attack
>>708648707
>>708649027
Also I forgot to mention that 1P-LSD is more similar to LSD than AL-LAD, ETH-LAD, PRO-LAD are.
>>708649027
Sort of related question
Does anyone know where to get good research chems?
>>708648888
I'm this guy >>708632087 and I've tried 5meo-mipt once. The initial come up was about half an hour, then I got chest pains for about 10 mins. Was a little worrying at first but it wore off. After that was a good 5 hours of really nice visuals, lots of fractals and lots of shimmering and oscillation of surfaces. The body load was a bit heavy but it wasnt the worst I've had
DRUGS
>Mushrooms
>LSD
MUSIC
>Black Metal: Drudkh; Summoning; Mirkwood; Xasthur; Tomhet
>Doom Metal: Acid King; Sleep; Yob; Salem's Pot; Pentagram
>FOLK: Marissa Nadler; Led Zeppelin; Phil Ochs; Julie Fowlis; Triakel
how many of u guys keep some psychedelics on hand in case you get the urge to do them and are really feeling it?
>>708649285
Try deep Web shops like dreammarket. Just take your time though, read reviews on vendors, try and use vendors in your own country (less likely customs will intercept it), make sure vendors offer escrow, use PGP encryption on messages including when sending your postal address.
>>708649285
https://www.chem.eu
>>708649586
I've got a stash of 6 tabs of 1P-LSD, 2 capsules of bk-2cb and 150mg of DMT. Can only do them when having long holidays as my wifes workplace do random drug tests so we need the full week to make sure she's clear before she returns to work
>>708648538
Haha I know what you mean. Also, getting stuck in word loops (repeating a word/meaning over and over) is freaky as fuck
>>708649856
I kinda get internal tourettes on acid, all kinds of random words just keep flowing to the front of my mind. I guess it's from the acid activating all parts of your brain at once
Anyone had any experience with bad come downs?
I love the feeling overall, but everything just feels really speedy and I end up anxious and feeling like it will escalate into a bad trip.
Is this normal, and is there any way to smooth out the come down a bit? (Except for benzos)
>>708647686
Yes. You didn't state what doses you did consume, but from my experience it gets wavy after 400ug of LSD. The other time it was difficult to communicate with my friends (who were also tripping) after around 4g of shrooms.
>I'm probably a dumb ass but I've done lsd and my first time I took 4 hits the trip was amazing but the next i took 6 hits i went through he'll and heaven it was terrifying and enlightening and I took another 6 hits a month later and it was more enlightening acid has changed my perspective on life and I am afraid of it in a respectful way use it to learn anything it's not a toy
I like to take a hit of LSD and jerk off to creepshot vids like pic related
vid sauce for anyone interested:
candidgirls.io/v/7d6410b623
>>708650736
>>708650736
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>>708650736
..
Anyone tried 4-ACO-DMT?
>>708650736
nice thx for sharing anon, im gonna hit a blunt and fap
>>708647608
thanks alot man, nice resource. I've been wanting to check out Terence Mckenna for some time now.
>>708648166
As I mentioned in >>708650604 it did happen to me as well. It gets difficult to string the words heard into sentence and then convert that to a thought that someone tries to convey to you. As the one speaking is high as well, his words don't precisely represent the through either.
>>708639309
As long as we can laugh, we're alive.
>>708648823
I didn't like it. Similar to a mushroom trip except gives me negative physical effects. Lots of yawning and makes me super tired. Being tired and tripping is like torture. I have friends who enjoy it.. but lysergamides are way better.
>>708648888
Its NOTHING like dmt. I hated it. Was what imagine crack is like. Super intense and speedy and overwhelming. Like a nitrous headspace with a ketamine bodylock.
>>708649586
I do them every weekend religiously.
>>708649770
None of that shows up and drug tests...
>>708650413
Benzos lol. I can never fall asleep after lysergamides.
>>708650413
For me, worst thing about the comedown is the heart palpitations. I have some irregular beats normally, and they tend to be provoked at the late stage of the LSD trip, leading a lot of anxiety. Has anyone else experienced this?
>>708650876
Yes.
>>708651979
Its likely in your head
>>708651866
1P-LSD breaks down into LSD, and that's visible on a drugs test for 2-3 days. It can be clear from your system a lot quicker than that but rather play it safe.
Bk-2cb can also be present in minute amounts from up to 5-7 days but usually clear in 3-4.
It also depends what kind of testing they do and how thorough they are
oh, this is why there are no more gud drugs.
yo bois u seem like u know stuff i tried lsd not a long time ago and had a bad trip, thought that my 2 friends i did it with were slimey and evil although it had its charms for a short time most was fucked up, since then every time i smoke weed i get paranoid as fuck so i left weed and only do coke and mdma sometimes and it still feels good. Why the fuck am i so paranoid when on weed?
Psychedelic of choice is acid. My music of choice is like tipper, zebbler, krne, woolymammoth. The darker side of electric psychedelic music.
>>708652998
Bc you are troubled prolly got anxiety
>>708652998
This also happened to me. I did LSD one year ago and had a bad trip. Now I still have paranoia when smoke pot (and do LSD). I tried high doses, I tried low doses, I stopped smoking pot for two months, but no result, I can't enjoy marijuana anymore. This fucking sucks.
>>708630265
Hey guys, i've never tried psychedelic before. But a few years back i was a heroin addict, i did just about every drug on earth except the psychs.
Now my psychiatrist (of all people) has convinced me how beneficial it could be. So i'm looking to try mushrooms for the first time. I've done a lot of research, i'm really excited and a little nervous.
My main question is, how bad of an idea would it be to trip on my own for the first time? (if i get cubensis i'll probably start with 1.5-2 grams) I have some benzos just incase. But my fucking trip sitter has bailed 3 times and i'm sick of it...
tl;dr
Doing shrooms for first time, have done lots of others in the past (i realize they don't even compare) Tips to make tripping by myself not terrifying?
>Substances tried:
LSD
MDMA
psilocybin shrooms
the usual weed
>Favourite LSD music
Psychedellic rock: My Morning Jacket, The Greateful dead
More classic rock: Pink Floyd, Led Zepplin, Beatles, Chris Farlowe
Math/Post Rock: pic related gave me synesthesia while peaking
vinyl copy arrived today
>Favourite MDMA music
Deep House
Psy/Goa Trance
Future House
some EDM, not most by far
>>708653958
not THAT bad of an idea as long as your calm in nature, get ready to hate yourself for doing trash drugs instead of seeing how great psychedellics are for self discovery and unwinding the soul
MDMA, MDA, LSD, 2CB, Mushrooms, nitrous, weed, AL-LAD, 25b-nbome, LSA.
my favourite is to do LSD and then MDMA with nitrous and piracetam + weed. Breaking through on nitrous while peaking on mdma while on LSD is something else. My favourite drug by itself is probably 2CB. The best trip I've had visually so far believe it or not was the 25b, NBOMes have a bad rap which is deserved but if you know what they are and treat them with respect they are actually pretty neat chemicals.
music wise I prefer riddim dubstep and trap/wave stuff when im tripping.
>>708653958
honestly i trip alone 100% of the time, if you have the mind for it you will be fine. Just start really small and work your way up to a sweet spot, start with 1g, then a week later do 1.5g or 2. etc. Just dont be a retard and redose after your first dose.
>>708630843
Recommend some Post rock?
>>708655119
tell about the Nitrous while candyflipping, whats it like?
Ive only done 3 consecutive capsules after a big bong rip and i thought that was pretty nice, felt really out of body and saw some fractals for the short while
Seeing all of this synthetic stuff I only hear about on 4chan and 420chan (since I'm not really searching for it that bad) and I'm wondering, how the hell do you even find this?
I drove 45 minutes just for shrooms since I live in such a rural area. Seems like darkweb was once a viable source, but is it still?
>>708655706
it is definetly
Some1 got some onion links ? Wanna try some new stuff
>>708655521
>>708655521
I really cant describe something like that, its like 3 layers of pure confoundment rolled into 1 experience. Euphoria wise its kind of dangerous because it doesn't last long at all and you want more, I always go through all my canisters when I do it. That said with nitrous you can practically trick yourself into seeing synchronicity/feeling extreme deja vu/general spooky weirdness. Its all BS though, you are just tricking yourself into experiencing this shit practically so its pretty fundamentally hollow. Definitely worth experiencing but I dont think its for everyone because you can get addicted to it and a nitrous addiction is a disgusting thing.
bob marley brownies while tubing (down the river in a tractor tire's inner tube) vang vieng lao, felt like I was watching myself from above and totally tuned off people I was with, saw some dude with a fucking rifle lurking around the river bank, prolly hunting animals not people
took few deep inhalations from a joint passed around in a circle around camp fire in rimavska sobota, was some crazy powerful stuff, hallucinated a bit trying to find my tent
>>708654682
Yeah, and i'm okay with crying and working out all my issues with the mushroom as my teacher. But i also just really want to feel more like me again, and just have some good laughs.
>>708655280
Did you do your first ever trip solo though? i plan on doing it alone for sure, but the first time just seemed a little too nerve wracking..
My main other issue is finding the stuff...i've been out searching all sorts of places they grow. (i live in WA state) But no luck so far, and NOBODY sells the stuff man...
>>708656472
I did 1g with a friend and was super underwhelmed (not that that is a bad thing your first time), every other time I've done it alone bar a few trips with said friend which were enjoyable. I have easily 50+ trips under my belt and maybe 3 of those were around people. Like I said it really depends on who you are as a person. When I've gone into trips worrying about shit I've practically forgotten about it until the end a few times, the less you worry the better off you will be. Its a totally different mindset so something bugging you now might not be a big deal at all and vice versa. Also finding shrooms in WA should be easy as fuck, its the Pac NW afterall. Hell im in a state below you and can basically get any drug I want, and its usually locally made lol.
>>708656472
Dont expect to cry from 1.5-2g that happens more towards 5g, that is a dose one should work up to though
>>708630265
Ok lets do it...
changa, weed, mxe, shrooms, ayahuasca and LSD
want to try: dmt, mdma in pure form with my other half
LSD is my most favorited substance. Reasonable doses for me are like 400ug or more; very often i trip on 500-700ug, had one on 1370ug and 2100ug - great experiences
I always (almost) use this soundtrack: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLn4lEz2vUZclHx1qpdnUEwc03j66-62Re Really recommend for next journey - start watching whe You start feeling this... tickling on the skin, and let go just allow to be taken
Story? Well... In short after several shitstorms i finally accepted my role - im shaman. Kinda.
>>708631037
Take them all.
>>708656842
tell the story of that 2100ug trip and how you managed not to die
elaborate on the shaman part
ITT: degenerates
>>708656803
Yeah. it currently sucks for me here.
Since i used to be a junkie i BURNED all my old bridges so i could stay out..But now i have very little connections and it's so incredibly frustrating..
>>708656836
Good to know. I'm starting to lean more to 2g. Does that seem like a fair starting dose? Or should i go higher?
>>708657025
Ok for the trip i preapred myself. As alwayw i tred them like sacrament.
But first before everything - im not native eng speaker, so my language is not good at all. I will make mistakes but pls im self-learner.
Cont. Empty bowels, empty bladder, shover, bed, easy soft light and music with earphones. Water to drink obviously. Tab in mouth and im doing simple enjoyable things - playing games for example or watching something like Rick and Morty. When tickling starts i put soundtrack i mentioned before. And i start watching till the moment i feel overwchelmed and i have enought. Then i put lights off and go to bed with earphones. I leave body in the bed and i explore Inner Universe.
Well... in short. The 2100ug trip was like that but so much more. I perfeckly understad how reality works and what it is. I know exackly what all Mystery Traditions are talking about. That is just something that cannot be explained.
I recommend if You dont have fear about Your Inner World.
>>708657656
most people consider 2g the optimal starting dose,
dont underestimate it though, since that amount is supposed to throw you right in without a half assed trip, which is obviously best for shrooms
>>708657656
ya I watched some of my friends do that when they threw in the towel and got help, I understand from a drug perspective but you really are socially shooting yourself in the foot. Hell I had a friend stop talking to me just over the fact he didn't want shit reminding him about weed. At that point imo its no longer about the drugs impact on you and more your own internal ability to say no...
Anyways start with 1.5g and go from there, no more than that. You can always do more later.
>>708656842
your not a shaman
Ballsed up on 2 bottles of delsym
>>708658009
sounds amazing shaman,
i am not much of a contempt person yet and young, i dont feel like i fear my inner workings though, im more dissatisfied with them
>>708657656
darknet is for you!
>>708658009
> I perfeckly understad how reality works and what it is
right...
Hey man I've done my fill of LSD but when you go making claims like that I know your full of shit.
>>708658011
Well that's what i'm looking for. I'd rather not half ass it.
>>708658014
It sucks man. I knew so many people. I had connections 2 countys south. And now i'm out in fields and trails with my dog pray i can find some.
On a side note, i've gotten conflicting info on half life kinda stuff. If i say, took shrooms today, when could be the next time i could take them?
>>708657025
And the shaman thing. Exackly it is
Volkhvs (Волхвы, Volkhvy; singular: Volkhv, Волхв) from Norse völva (female prophet, seer, shaman) were heathen priests in pre-Christian Rus’. Volkhvs were believed to possess mystical powers, particularly the ability to predict the future. The first literary reference to a volkhv occurs in the Primary Chronicle under the year 912; there, the priest-soothsayer predicts Prince Oleg's death. With the adoption of Christianity, the pagan priests came under persecution and sometimes tried to channel social discontent against the church.[1]
Whats wiki says because thing is much more complicated.
So... When i was around 10 i had a trip on shrooms. Story short - was in summer in my aunt place, uncel liked pick up shrooms (the regular fungus thing). Aunt prepared sauce with rice, everybody ate, i was "off". I remebered only simple moments like going to toilet, waking up seeign clouds hearing thinder and shit like that. From tuesday till sunday.
So... i was always interested in "occult" stuff but i always searched for logical explanation. I learned trivium.... Stop, before. I always seen more. When i go into starnegrs after few moments i know what with what kind of problem are fightings. This kinda shit. I always was the "talk to" guy. Always, since kindergarden. But whet i tried to speak about what i see, noone else could understand me. So i started to learn about myself.
LKong story short - when i was not doing that reality crumbled around me; always. if i was not doing this shitstorm after shitstorm hits my life. But finally i learned. And when i started following this path everything got much better, without any effort.
>>708658466
I don't know enough about the deep web or TOR.
If i had friends who knew i'd ask them. But i don't sadly.
2CB-nBOME, LSD, 1P-LSD, shooms
Mostly listen to Animal Collective or Aphex Twin.
So many stories to tell...
TAKE PSYCHS AT FESTIVALS THEY MAKE A LOT MORE SENSE
>>708658542
pretty sure minimum is a week, no tolerance past 2, I would just stick to tripping no more than once a month more just for your mental health though.
>>708658014
Maby not. I dont care. I know how things worked.
>>708658260
LSD is very good substance for facing Your problems and hard truths about self. It is much more delicate than other psychedelics.
>>708658493
Yeah... Try 2100ug and we will talk.
>>708658861
you realize past 1000uq you dont get anything more right? You hit an apex and all you are really doing is making the trip last longer. I don't care what psychedelic you have taken or at what dose, you cannot clam you have a clue how the universe works. Its just fucking not true. Psychedelics should of made you come to that conclusion.
>>708658613
>Tails Drive
follow the install instructions to a tee
youll need 2 flash drives
>buy bitcoin
transfer directly to wallet adress of your Dream Market-account
>encrypt your adress with the sellers PGP key using a tool like this:https://www.igolder.com/PGP/encryption/
make sure to read their terms carefully
>enjoy
all of this can be googled or better an untracked engine like duckduck go for more detail
>>708659090
tails has everything you need pre installed
>>708658567
Did your uncle feed you magic mushrooms when you were 10? lol
>>708659059
After 2mg exackly. According to reaserch data from Hofmann and research that were made till 70;s when "USA" put ban on it. Data is there, search for them.
Second part - if something reaches out behind borders of Your understanding it doesnt mean it is false.
>>708630265
>Ate shrooms and went flyfishing.
Best day of my life
>>708659276
No it was accident. It must have been some other kind mushroom, not magick.Like Amanita muscaria.
>Salvia, DMT, LSD
>I prefer no music most of the time.
>Salvia was definitely the most powerful out of the 3, you lose awareness of your self and basically become one with everything, it can be quite scary.
DMT is a beautiful mind opening substance that every Psychonaut should try, it is a reality shattering, mind blowing experience.
LSD was the first psychedelic I tried, never really had strong visuals with it, but I love it.
>>70865932
I guess my point is no matter how much LSD you've done the minute you start concretely buying into it is the point you've jumped the shark. Its a fucking fever dream, you can pull some beautiful stuff out of it but ultimately its completely irrational/rooted in abstraction. You really can construct your picture of reality around it, you are missing the point. I also very fundamentally stand by the fact the universe is way too complicated for you to even begin to understand it fully as a human being, you are completely placing yourself ontop of what is basically fundamentally god. It is completely unknowable in its totality without being it. For you to claim that your understand that is just pure BS. No amount of any psychedelic could give you that scope or perspective.
Only done LSD, but gonna try 2C-B and DMT over spring break this year
I listen to classic rock, chill electronic stuff, and some alternative music like M83
>>708659059
If a person comes up with some ideas and because he's on psychedelics, convinces himself that that is the working of the universe, reality, etc., can he claim that he understood (at least at that moment) how all that works or not? I imagine the feeling that you understand everything is great, but please let's be adults and be clear that this is drugs giving sense of knowledge (without actual information) and it's not an actual revelation.
>>708659834
You are mistaken. But i dont have time or even will to trying to explain it to you. Its not worth it, so... lets just say you are right, ok ;)
>>708660057
whats that particular simbolism mean?
(not the other guy)
>>708660256
That is one of the most protective sigils. It is slav in roots.
>>708660405
Great music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgfa5UlZAL8
>>708660057
wow you really are the typical acid burnout that will make a grandiose egotistical statement and then claim "you just dont get it" because in reality its all just fiction based out of a fever dream that only exists in their own head. Come on man, you are making baseless claims and just being a wistful faggot about it and not backing anything up. You really are just buying into a chemical that puts you in a chemical mindset that makes you buy into shit.
>>708660033
>can he claim that he understood (at least at that moment) how all that works or not?
I say no, because fundamentally you are never at a point (at least as what you are now) that you could experience it, drugs or not. This is what im arguing though and you are correct, chemically compelling yourself is inherently vapid. It really should only be used for creative purposes. If you are pulling reality out of this kind of mindstate something is wrong, its like whole heartedly buying into a dream you had after waking up one morning.
Literally everyone is a tab of acid and some nitrous away from "seeing god", but that doesn't make it real.
>>708661128
Ok then explain me thet those:
Matter. Light. Gravity. Thoughts. Consciousness. Energy. Explain NOT DESCRIBE but explain WHAT those things are and WHERE FROM they came.
The only psychs I have tried are shrooms and 25-i. Although 25-i didn't give me the deep psychedelic feeling that shrooms give, i got awesome visuals. I also highly recommend watching futurama next time any of you trip. I swear the show was written for people high on psychs
>>708661370
but how does the lack of evidence for these things back up your conjecture or counter mine? Are you saying you understand these things and due to the lack of explanation for some of these things your existential experience is correct? And you realize there are explanations for all of these things right? I'm not going to sit down and type all that shit out but literally all you would need to do is google all of those terms and there are credible fundamental scientific theory's for all of those or biological mechanisms that are responsible for that shit. Once again you come off as a garden variety guy who has done a lot of acid and thinks they have shit figured out when that is literally impossible.
>>708658753
Some people had told me IF i wanted i could take it day after day. Other told me i HAD to wait a minimum 3 weeks.
Thanks again man!
>>708662006
no prob, the problem with psychedelics and their clandistine nature is there is no straightput info on them for the most part, you really have to do your own research and sometimes arrive to your own conclusions about stuff. Hit up websites like tripsit.me or erowid.org for good info. If done right you can do them completely safe and have the time of your life. Fuck up and its pure hell.
>>708659090
Oh wow. I'll give it a go.
Thanks dude! (Most helpful thread i've ever been on in /b/ and it's a psychonaut thread haha)
>>708661919
The problem is they all are theories. You know what that means? And yes been there, seen that. Talked with for example Nuclear physics about those things. Ive spent more than 15 years to do my research, to satysfie my own need for understanding.
There is nothing that is "impossible". If You can imagine that - it is possible. And if you can experience it - that is the most real thing that You can have.
>>708646539
Nailed it.>>708646893
Too scared to try LSD, but thought about doing 2C-B to self-medicate anxiety.
I've had positive experiences with MDMA.
Anyone have trip reports of 2C-B?
>>708662333
okay you are saying the nature of the universe is abstract and practically dreamlike which is fair/true, but once again you have glossed over everything and launched into existentiality again. You are dodging the point. You are making grandiose claims with no backing.
>>708662517
just go for lsd and start low, 50ug shouldnt be that terrifying if youre really that scared
>>708662215
glad i could help anon
>>708662517
>wanting to try research chemicals over the real thing
research chemicals fucking suck and make you insane, real acid makes you contructive and uplifted.
>>708662806
2c-b isnt some nasty research chemical
read up on the magic half dozen, i agree he should do lsd though
>>708662638
My english is not good enought....
But
>the nature of the universe is abstract and >practically dreamlike which is fair/true
Yeah. Also reality is much more simpler than one might think.
Understanding cannot be "given" or "forced". It is something that comes from the inside. I can give you information but only by understanding them you can build knowledge out of it.
I can say i understand. But i cannot give you that understanding, because language is not good enought. And i mean like every language that exists - this is something that cannot be expressed on our layer of existence. BUT human beings CAN experience that.
>>708662517
2c-b is the shit (at least for me) but it seems to be pretty personal dependant. Also you gotta know if you have 2c-b Hbr or HcL, Hbr is slightly less potent while HcL is more potent. 30mg hbr ~=~ 25mg HcL if I remember correctly. Anyways I love 2cb, its super clean, little weird headspace, great clean euphoria, and not a lot of visuals. Its great for a club or really doing whatever, its a very malleable drug. I would liken it to almost like candyflipping except not nearly the same, cleaner but less intense/more focused. It feels very zen, you are totally content and in the moment. Music sounds amazing, stuff like deep/future house sounds like it was made for 2c-b, and the euphoria imo is better than LSD and only topped by MDMA, but honestly even then im at a point I would rather have 2cb over both. Start with 20mg hcl and work your way up to 30mg over a few weeks/months to find your sweet spot. From all reports 2cb seems to be really safe and people have done large doses of it with no negative side effects, hell there are reports of people doing reasonable doses everyday for years and being fine. I love the shit and highly recommend it, but that said its still not very well researched and very personal dependant, I know people who hate it. Just start small and be smart about it. I think its an amazing psychedelic in general but for starting out its great.
>>708662203
Hell yeah. i've actually been doing a TON of research on youtube (i know a lot of people hate him, but he's really helped put my mind at ease about some things, Plus i always fact check his stuff - Psychedsubstance is the channel) Erowid and shroomery. Most of the people on shroomery offered no advice, just kept telling me to read the sticky FAQs (which i did)
My other source of info is my psychiatrist who has a legit shaman and everything (he's been into this lifestyle since he was 20, i'm just starting at 25)
Any advice for actual hunting? i live in bellingham WA (20 miles from the canadian border and right on the coast) i keep getting told blue ringers grow around here along with cubensis i think....but i haven't found anything yet..And i've been looking mulitple hours at a time after the rains.
>>708663406
I dont fuck around with hunting since I don't know shit and that is pretty dangerous to be ignorant with at least in practice. If anything I would recommend growing them, from what I've read its pretty fucking easy for what it is, at least in entry level. While your at it you might as well grow some san pedro. Mushrooms around here are plentiful enough I can get them from people pretty easily (at least in the right seasons) and for super cheap (like $5/g if that) but I haven't wanted to do mushrooms/psychedelics in a while after having access to pure LSD for a year or so.
>>708658567
have you predicted the future?
>>708630265
DMT
LSD
Shrooms
MDMA
3-MeO-PCP
Amphetamine
Alprazolam
5-MeO-MiPT
Cannabis
Alcohol
Ketamine
I take pcp pretty often lately and while tripping on it I prefer dark psytrance
>>708663839
Yeah, most of what i've found up here so far are death caps.
But i do spore prints on all the new ones i find and try to ID them, it's kind of a new hobby.
I also send pictures to my psychiatrist, He's VERY knowledgeable and is willing to help me ID everything i find.
Yeah theres a couple websites that sell the grow kits...I was thinking of getting some cubensis and penis envy. But that's my last resort if i end up finding none.
>>708664127
psychedelic or not mushrooms are pretty neat
>>708664114
PCP seems to get a really undeserved rap, what do you think of it?
>>708664114
got a gallon of it?
super vanilla here. smoked weed for years.
tonight is going to be my first time on shrooms. got 8 grams. any advice?
>>708664330
Yeah! i really enjoy taking pictures of every one i find.
Tbh it's a great hobby. Such interesting things.
>>708664561
eat it all.
