Who will win?
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Who will win?
Jeb
I hope no one, Gary Johnson is a hippie faggot, Donald Trump isn't fit for office, and Hillary Clinton is a criminal
>>708556298
Not USA for sure
>>708556457
This.
>>708556298
I hate all of them equally. Hillary will probably win but recent polls are saying Trump. I personally want Trump to win because he'd be funnier to laugh at while the USA burns.
GIANT METEOR 2016!
PLEASE!
>>708556786
wut polls are YOU looking at??
>>708556298
The one with the most electoral votes
>>708557412
The new ones. Saw them earlier. Would've screen capped but I forgot.
Hillary Rodham Fuck You Clinton
>>708556298
Praying for a Trump victory, he's not perfect, but I'll take him over that crook.
>>708558765
>Hillary Rodham Fuck the USA Clinton
Fixed it for you.
>>708558883
This.
>>708556298
Trump will win the debate if that's what you're asking. But Hillary will win the election no problem.
>>708556298
Clinton.
Making zero political commentary here, but all you need to do is check with the bookies.
For gambling to be a profitable business they need the greatest experts analysts and algorithms there are.
Trump is handicapped at +600.
Thats very.... very low.
>>708556298
black people
>>708556298
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IuJGHuIkzY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDc8PVCvfKs
Whoever wins. We all lose.
>>708559713
She won't win, but she'll steal it.
>>708559713
The bookies also said that Brexit wouldn't happen but it did.
>>708558883
>>708559134
>Hillary Rodham fuck the world Clinton
Fixed it for you.
>>708556298
How do you define "winning".
If it's who becomes president then most likely Hillary or Bernie.
If it's based on the popular vote it's definitely Trump. If it's who wins the most states it will be most likely be Trump.
>>708559730
yup
>>708557412
Yeah there's a lot of polling data that shows the most recent CNN/CBS polls are totally fake, yet the data is included in all the major polling aggregates like fivethirtyeight
>>708556298
Hopefully Trump or else we're fucked.
>>708560195
They gave Brexit a 60% chance..
They're giving trump 14%.
The thing with odds, is that it means it can still happen. I dont know how people dont understand that.
Also the majority of the UK were opposed to Brexit, and most people didnt vote because they felt it was a non issue, and thats kind of what fucked it up.
Not many people are feeling this election is a non issue.
>>708560410
>or Bernie
What are you smoking. He hasn't been in the race for a long time.
Still yet, I agree that Trump will get the popular vote, but they won't let him win no matter what happens.
>>708560633
Yeah, er, Brexit was a 72% turnout. That's like the highest turnout for anything ever.
She may even show us all how physically sick she really is, especially if Trump can get her very agitated. It will be fun to watch them.
>>708560528
You're going to the wrong websites if you think the well-funded and high quality polls sponsored by those outlets are totally fake....
>>708560733
It's well established that if Hillary does have to drop out of the race due to wikileaks or veritas reporting, then the Democrats will either swap-in Bernie, or Obama might ask for the elections to be delayed a year or so.
>>708560791
>Brexit passed even though pundits and bookies claimed it wouldn't
>Therefore, Trump will win because pundits and bookies claim he won't
>>708560899
Why? Why would you equate "well funded" to anything other than pro-clinton?
>>708556298
The reaper.
Really wish someone could dig up some supportable really bad stuff about the Hillary monster and get it out there. It's like she has teflon covering her, nothing sticks.
>>708560791
Oh, ok.
Trumps going to win then.
Your personal emotions are a better predictor than stats and expert research.
I was mistaken.
>>708561016
Fuck are you green texting me for nigga? i'm just telling you that what you said was not true. Brexit turnout was a record high.
Clinton. I don't like either of them, but the polls are no longer close. Clinton is winning—she's got this in the bag.
>>708556298
If dubs, Trump is prez.
>>708560733
Could always veto Trump if they actually do.
Alternatively, time to transfer to another college out of country!
>>708561043
Uuuuuuggggghhhhhh
PLEASE MAKE IT STOP
>>708561202
>Clinton is winning—she's got this in the bag.
Says who?
>>708561138
That post wasn't mine, I'm a dirty interjector. And apologies, I might've mistaken you for a guy who continually invokes Brexit in these threads as ironclad proof Trump will win.
Trump
>>708561120
What makes you think the "expert research" is impartial?
You're trying to take the scientific high-ground reasoning from empirical evidence, however all your evidence was literally handed to you by someone else. That is the definition of hearsay.
Can you not see how incredibly hypocritical you are being right now?
>>708561043
> A poll is well-funded
> So it must've been secretly sponsored by Clinton, rather than the organizations that claimed to have conducted it
MAGA all the way lefty commie cuckbois
>>708561356
....The vast bulk of polls?
>Polls
>>708561225
I don't think you can veto an election?
I could see Obama claiming that Russia messed with the voting system and having a new election done.
>>708561470
I didn't say it must be, but I said it's a possibility and, in fact, likely. #NotAllPolls
Some demographics vote for who they think will win. Generally beta cucks who think they understand stats. The best way to turn them is to release fake poll data.
Will you at least concede that some of the sources of polling data comes from pro-hillary news networks? Or in other words, would you trust a Fox News poll that said Trump would win?
>>708561495
Time patrol spotted.
>>708561796
The way it works in America, the "winner" of the election is really just nominated for election by officials, and thus the officials can decide to go against the vote. The USA is a republic not a democracy.
Build the wall
>>708561796
he couldn't they cou;ld only try to sort out irregularities. Obongo couldn't make the states pay for another election
>>708561863
Fox News polls have a very good reputation, actually. Notwithstanding the bias of the network's commentators. So actually, yes, I would trust such a poll.
You're in for a rude awakening on Election Day if you're gonna live in denial of the polls. Please though, if/when Hillary does win, don't bitch about a rigged election.
>>708556457
Underrated post.
>>708556298
Hopefully neither.
>>708556298
China
>>708561940
Yes. Im am timecop.
>>708556298
hoprfully neither. people need to vote for the 3rd guy that hasnt been getting any attention. both trump and hillary are going to get us killed
>>708562114
Why are you so adamant that the polls can't be faked? The polling companies don't have to release any documentation that their polls were correct. There's an uproar about evidence of voter fraud - something previously thought to be so difficult to do no one can do it - but you'll stand behind polling data like it's gospel.
Here's a poll for you. I asked 100 people if you're a fag and they all said you were. I'm sorry dude. You're stuck between a rock and a hard place now.
>>708556298
Same person who won the last two, Clinton. Trump doesn't prepare for shit, he just wings it
>>708562439
Given Trump's polling is up and that story about him "grabbing pussy" came out just before, i'd say he won the second debate.
>>708561796
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_in_the_United_States
I was thinking of this. Whoever gets elected has to commit a crime at some point. This can actually carry out to Hillary cuz of actual crimes
>>708556298
Soros. not cause people are voting for Hillary but because he's supplying the machines they're voting on.
http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/18/soros-connected-company-provides-voting-machines-in-16-states/
>>708562433
Making claims of conspiracies and impropriety without proof. It's not that polls CAN'T CONCEIVABLY be faked. It's that you're claiming some kind of systemic faking conspiracy on the part of pollsters who have good track records, historically, with basically no proof to back up your extraordinary claim. THAT is what I have a problem with.
But again, it's pointless to bicker about this. On Election Day, one of us will be made a fool (provided the polls remain about the same between now and then)
>>708556457
this is the most this i have ever given
>>708556786
>Hillary will probably win but recent polls are saying Trump.
Nice delusions. All the polls show Trump trailing by 12 or more points. His chances stand at 8% or roughly the chance of an NFL kicker missing a 31 yard field goal
>>708557412
There'll be tiny cable stations in bumfuck Ms or pigsqueal Ne, that run a poll - Trumpsters raid it, then claim polls show Trump win.
>>708556298
>Mexifag
when is gonna be the elections??
>>708562683
>>708561863
Just admit that you are denying the polls solely because you are losing, with no actual logic behind it outside of refusing to accept reality.
>>708562207
Haven't seen movie in a while.
>>708562534
But, thats only after they are in office, not before?
>>708562433
Also, for your viewing pleasure...lots and lots of polls, from lots of different companies, the great majority of which tell the same tale...
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/updates/
>>708556415
fpbp
>>708562761
>Unsourced twitter screencaps that run in the opposite direction of professional polling groups using peer review science
Gee, which do I believe?
>>708562878
>>708560939
>well established
If well established does mean something else than documented or reported by trustworthy news organizations
>>708562629
Dude it doesn't matter what the fucking polls or the elections say. I'm a scientist. As frustrated with you as I am, I don't let emotions effect my decision, i go on data and the reliability of that data.
- The data all points to a massive media bias in favour of clinton and the establishment at large. That is undeniable at this point.
- The vast majority of polls are conducted by media outlets.
- The ones that aren't you will only read if rubber stamped by media outlets (selection bias + confirmation bias).
You think you're being so logical but i'm sorry bro, you're actually basing your decision on faith (in the polling results) than you are on the evidence in front of you. Regardless of who wins the election, you will still be an impressionable fool.
>>708562433
Here's the thing with conspiracies, anon. The more people involved,the greater chance it falls apart or cannot be kept secret. What you are describing is thousands of people (possibly even millions if you buy everything Trump and his base are spewing) are part of a wide reaching global conspiracy to deny him his rightful place as ruler of all creation.
This is, in all honesty, as far fetched as some of the more wild conspiracy theories in the US. Like the faked moonlanding.
>>708562629
>Fraud doesn't exist.
Kek'd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IuJGHuIkzY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDc8PVCvfKs
Trump keeps naming the Jew so he won't win
>>708562769
Yeah, after whoever is elected into office.
>IT'S ALL RIGGED IT'S ALL RIGGED HOW COULD TRUMP BE LOSING EVERYONE LOVES HIM
From the GOP's "2013 report for the Party's Growth & Opportunity Project 2013 (AKA The Autopsy of Romney's 2012 Campaign)
>The nation's demographic changes add to the urgency of how precarious our position has become
>If we want ethnic minority voters to support republicans, we have to engage them and show our sincerity
>If Hispanic Americans percieve a GOP nominee does not want them in the United states, they will not pay attention to our next sentence. It does not matter what we say about education, jobs, or the economy; if Hispanics think we do not want them here, they will close their ears to our policies"
And on Young voters
>Young voters do not have to share our views on every issue, but we do need to make sure young people do not see the party as intolerant of alternative points of view. If our party is not welcoming and inclusive, young people and other voters will increasingly tune us out
Man, sure would have been good to follow that 3 year old advice there. Might have stopped the upcoming landslide loss for the GOP
>>708563066
Agreed and Checked
>>708562433
Btw, if I were trying to make a rational argument to support the view that Trump might not be losing, I'd make the following points:
1. The polls are not unanimous, and some high quality polls (ex., USC/LA Times) show a very close race;
2. It's getting harder and harder to achieve accurate poll results. Things are much tougher for pollsters than they were in the era of the landline phone--response rates are down and it costs more and more to finance high quality polls. As a result, even polling averages can be well off the mark;
3. To prove point 2, look at Brexit, the Conservative sweep in the last parliamentary elections, Netanyahu's triumph in the last Israeli election...all of these events were not predicted by the polls, yet they happened
See? It's possible to make a thoughtful argument in support of Trump's viability without resorting to conspiracy theories.
>>708563105
>heavily edited video by a biased propaganda source who has been proven faking dozens of videos
>video is highly edite din ways to make it unclear what is being talked about, using jumpcuts to force a narrative
>most of what is claimed isn't stated in the video but in o'keefes own opinions in cuts away from the video
Gee, wonder why no one in the world is taking this seriously.
Ironically, o'keefe is the one attempting to rig the election by gaslighting the country
>>708563171
>>708563171
>Chopping up a quote about ISIS and using it out of context to prove a point.
Credibility - lost.
>From the GOP's "2013 report for the Party's Growth & Opportunity Project 2013 (AKA The Autopsy of Romney's 2012 Campaign)
Going to need a link to a credible source, because your image already has removed your credibility.
>>708563105
That particular conspiracy theory has NOTHING to do with polling companies releasing fake polls. So it's completely irrelevant.
>>708563317
Polls showed brexit at a tie, and many were calling it too close to call
12 points is not too close to call. It's a landslide.
>>708563410
>>708562433
>Polls are rigged, cause people check polls to decide who to vote for
/inb4 democrats are sheep
>>708563066
Well, I wouldn't have credited anything in your statement, but since you're a scientist....
>>708556298
This election is so fucked up.. Like.. it keeps hitting me harder and harder.. This is really bad.
>>708556786
problem is, it isn't just USA that'd burn but the whole world.
>>708563453
>you see, he didn't mean actually censor the internet. Let me explain what Donald actually meant but was too stupid or ignorant to put out correctly
Odd, considering you guys daily chop up exerts of "CLINTON DEFENDING PEDOPHILES" and the o'keefe video as facts
Also learn how to google and actually fucking follow politics if you've literally not heard of the fucking 2013 autopsy report. This isn't a well kept secret, it's been talked about numerous times and is public information.
http://goproject.gop.com/rnc_growth_opportunity_book_2013.pdf
>>708563066
Media outlets pay polling companies to conduct polls....polls not financed by media companies still tend to have Clinton up big (see: http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/updates/)....plenty of media outlets, including the above link, routinely report polls that are "good" for Trump...the CNN poll from yesterday had Trump up 4 in Ohio and nearly tied in two other swing states, e.g.
Obama Bin Laden
>>708556298
>>708563474
Not disagreeing with ya. In fact, I don't think the argument I made here >>708563317 is ultimately sound. Just trying to prove that it's possible to make a plausible argument on the issue without invoking conspiracy theories and the other garbage we so often see from the Trump side
>>708563346
>The several minutes of unbroken, non-edited communication between people admitting to voter fraud and inciting violence must be fake.
Sure, thats why two people have already been fired for being caught, and nearly every major media has picked up the story.
>More than five million views in less than 3 days.
Yep, must be bad editing and fake.
>>708563317
1. It is a very close race. I'm not saying Trump is winning, i'm saying it's not the Clinton landslide you think it is.
2. Agreed. A lot of them use website polls now which from my personal experience are garbage. I put the same question in twice or reworded slightly differently and these chinese robots answer differently.
3. I'm not making a conspiracy theory. More over, if you treat conspiracy theory like it's a dirty word, you end up living in a world without conspiracy. Have you read the Podesta emails? Politics is to conspire against the other party.
god donald is one ugly mother fucker. i wish i had i hard 13 inches to rape his face
>>708563685
Not America. The end. Inc nuclear annihilation.
>>708563819
>>708563873
If you're gonna make an extraordinary claim, for instance of a big conspiracy, you should have some proof to back it up. That is all I have to say at this point.
>>708563830
Breitbart isn't major media. No channel or news source is actually airing it.
>views equals truth
Are you actually retarded? Like, for real? Shall I link you to fucking wendigo sighting videos with 5 mil views?
Try finding some evidence. No one cares about a video from a guy WHO IS A FELON AND HAS BEEN IN LEGAL TROUBLE FOR FAKING AUDIO AND VIDEO
>>708563952
>>708563974
have memes gone too far?
>>708563346
You can watch the entire O' keefe videos and you'll see it's not out of context at all, they're framed legitimately. The question is if they were just talking a big talk to impress or theres real truth to the matter. But you can certainly watch the full 2hr clips from each "reporter" and see it's at least not taken out of context.
And regarding "well known lier", i can't speak to that, but these videos at least are genuine.
>>708564010
Weird that noone has inserted a coin and asked for truth. Seems like she'd do it.
>>708556298
At this point, nobody will.
>>708563685
>Got caught using an image where someone was misquoted, and then cried about it.
Cool story.
>>708563685
I don't need to google anything if I am not the one making a claim. In the real world people have to back up what they say.
Also your link doesn't prove your point.
I'm done wasting my time with you.
There are no winners in this election.
>>708556298
>Who will win?
>>708564102
I watched the o'keefe video m8. It's framed in a propaganda tense, as obvious by the video title and the fact o'keefe is a far right activist and not an impartial video. Yes, you are indeed retarded for taking a video from a faker as fact because "I want to believe it"
It's time to accept you lost because you didn't follow the growth project results. You lost because, and I quote
"If Hispanic Americans percieve a GOP nominee does not want them in the United states, they will not pay attention to our next sentence. It does not matter what we say about education, jobs, or the economy; if Hispanics think we do not want them here, they will close their ears to our policies"
"If we want ethnic minority voters to support republicans, we have to engage them and show our sincerity"
You lost because you failed to learn from your mistake. Keep crying about voter fraud not based off any actual facts, and continue to cry as no one listens or cares.
vote trump for ww3! its gonna be AWeSomE GAiZ FoR ReAlZ HAHa!
>>708564326
Morgan died in Rome, Italy, in his sleep in 1913 at the age of 75, leaving his fortune and business to his son, John Pierpont Morgan, Jr. His fortune was estimated at "only" US$80 million, prompting John D. Rockefeller to say: and to think, he wasn't even a rich man.
Obama Loves Pepe
https://twitter.com/ObamaMalik/status/788875017312493569
>>708563707
fivethirtyeight doesn't do it's own polling it's a metastudy on other people's polls. jesus if we're going to debate this at least try.
Furthermore, if i'm paid to produce a poll for MSNBC, do you really think i'm going to come back with Trump up by +10 points? If so, do you think i'll be used for the next poll?
>>708564116
Its perfectly logical, the powerful generally benefit from lies and get hurt by truth. Even if 99 strategically picked truths out of 100 help them, the 1 thats about them is a truth telling culture is unacceptable risk.
>>708564158
>gets proven wrong
>literally the text posted is in the document
>I'M DONE
Sorry you got btfo sonny-chin. It's funny you're denying the credibility of a document covered in the media for years, that was comissioned by the RNC itself and Preibus
You lost because you went all in one white voters. It's in the document, accept life.
>>708564434
didn't j.p. morgan bail out the government and give andrew carnegie 425 million dollars?
>>708564158
>misquoted
The quote is actually factual as we have video evidence of it. And him reitterating it at a debate
>>708563865
keke.
>>708556298
Trump
>>708564070
>No channel or news source is actually airing it.
FOX and CNN have been talking about it nonstop the past 2 days and that's just the 2 i know of. Guarantee there are more now.
>>708564029
The proof is out there in the wikileaks emails - I don't know what else to say. If you won't read the e-mails then we'll never be on the same level.
>>708556298
idgaf. just anyone at this point. i'm so tired of the bickering. idgaf if you amurifags elect skeletor for president, as long as you stfu already.
sincerely,
the whole world
>>708564395
i dont even want to know whats going on in this trump campaing inner circle highly educated trusted members debate
>>708564528
>>708564534
>>708564528
Hence all the lies from Trump
Obtain chemical hung clinicians underbrush unclog extraterrestrial. Fuckface
>>708564771
and if you actually read them, you know nothing in there is actually that bad. Don't get me wrong, I don't like hillary but damn. Lets be honest. you read them and you are like meh.
I am throwing my vote away with mcmullin
>>708556457
/thread
>>708561394
inocent until proven guilty. Funny how all these women decided to show up at this very important turning point in the election. You can claim conspiracy but come on little too convenient.
Everything messages fulfilled though judging nothing file kindling. Fuckface
>>708556298
Hillary Clinton. I don't get why there's still debate about this. Sure, it sucks. But that's your president starting somewhere in mid January and you should start accepting it by now.
>>708565076
they have been coming out of the wood works since the 90s? he has 7 settled cases including one from his ex wife.
I understand justice and featuring higher the grudgingly blinkered addressed added backhoe
>>708565171
You're an absolute fool.
>>708565258
Not enmasse as they have in the past week.
>>708564010
Trump appeals to the lowest common denominator. No wonder your life is shit.
Potus and Vpotus
>>708565842
And you're still in denial
>>708565258
>he has 7 settled cases including one from his ex wife.
So everyone rich man in the spotlight ever accused of rape or sexual harassment is guilty?
>>708565871
lol ya point is there has always been lawsuits for him cause he has always done this. so the whole argument of all now is useless lol
>>708566026
Do you know anything about either party or are you a non American just checking out the polls?
Honest question, really.
We've already deciphered your of lesser intelligence so I want to hear what you have to say for your ignorance.
Go ahead now.
>>708565946
>Trump appeals to the lowest common denominator. No wonder your life is shit.
You mean the hard working people of this country?
>>708566194
you do realize bill was broke from investing in tech lol. Wonder where he got his money? Tech took off. The fact that he settled vs proving innocent and in some cases admitting things like "Its not rape if you are married" kinda give him away. he is known for dragging out cases and bleeding them dry but why settle? Cause it was going to be open and close guilty
>>708560528
>>708560528
>there's a lot of polling data that shows the most recent CNN/CBS polls are totally fake,
"I read an article on Breittard that told me so..."
>>708566489
lol ppl forget that the owner of breittard is part of trumps advisor team. Literally is blatant about that.
>>708566301
I'm not American but I've lived in the U.S. since I was 5.
I honestly feel like you're just trying to bait now. You know damn well Hillary is going to win. Maybe you're from a red state so you feel like everyone else thinks the way you do.
>>708566730
mods mods mods
>>708562767
Introspection? Objective reality?
Pffftttt... you're talking to a Trump supporter!
nobody. everyone loses.
Versace nut cream
>>708556457
>>708563085
This is why I hate conspiracy theorists...
They just can't stand the concepts of evidence, proof, and critical thinking.
Conspiracy theorists stand in opposition to critical thinking.
>>708556457
The one true answer.
LETS FIND OUT.
https://youtu.be/466E33mxzBs
https://youtu.be/466E33mxzBs
https://youtu.be/466E33mxzBs
https://youtu.be/466E33mxzBs
hidetaka sakurai
Hillary of course the only good candidate America has had in 2016 years
>>708568023
lol
>>708556457
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