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Could Goku beat Superman?

I was never a DBZ fan so I don't know exactly how strong Goku is, but I have seen some episodes involving his fights. He really doesn't seem like much compared to Supes.
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don't need be a fan to know that superman is Dues Ex Hero but Goku has clearly defined limits.

Superman Prime, after the death of superman, is literally a pandimensional deity.
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>>708306056
Hard to say, each is god-like depending on what era. Top tier from each would probably be superman.
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>>708306222
Checked. You forgot to mention he's a space Jew.
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>>708306056
It's been proven so many times now that Superman could beat the leaving shit out of goku, but because of the fucking weebs, there will never be a final conclusion.
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Strongest supes > strongest goku
Typical goku > typical supes
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Supposedly he'd lose. That person never watched dgbz.
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>>708306056
Yes and he should just for the simple fact that Superman is the gayest overpowered hero of all time.

Dude wears bright red underwear on the outside of his outfit.

Also he has the worst fans... YOU'RE FORGETTING ABOUT SUPERMAN PRIME... Shut the fuck up and get that shit outta here.
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>>708306056
Goku can't win. We can argue mathematics all day. Do your research and you know Superman is stronger.

The bottom line is, Superman wins most of his fights effortlessly. Goku wins by the skin of his teeth.

Superman is not about the fights, it's about what he does with his power. The political aspect. Morals. Shit like that.

Goku is about hard work and training. Never giving up to reach your goal. Breaking limits.

Despite this, Goku fans will get triggered if say Superman would win because Goku is their idol. Losing is not part of Goku's code. What they need to understand is its 2 characters from 2 different types of fictional universes fighting. I could draw a stick figure that could beat Goku and Superman teamed up. Power doesn't mean much.
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>>708306056
Superman at his peak > Goku at his peak
Regular Goku > Regular Superman
Then again both characters are still continuing to get stronger, so there's no way to give a definitive answer.
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>>708306767
Who is that semen demon?
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>>708306765
clearly a weeb
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>>708306222
No. Goku does not have limits.

His strength literally comes from anger and nearly dying. Similar to Hulk in that respect. The last thing you ever want to do is get in a drawn out fight with Goku. If you beat him down bad enough, he just invents a new form, turns a different color, and whoops your ass.
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>>708307061
Bullshit.
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Goku died and his body was taken to the other world by God so he can become stronger
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ok
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>>708306056
goku would slaughter superman
no contest
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>>708306056
Saitama wins each time

/thread
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superman is obscenely overpowered
goku aint got shit on him

that being said, goku is a better character
superman is fucking boring

additionally, they wouldnt fight to the death
only for fun, and probably only after goku pesters supes to do so, so goku can test himself against him
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>>708306056
No, he'd have no chance comparing peak to peak. Superman is literally deus ex machina, the character. He does whatever you need him to. Aside from that, just look at the feats. Superman is stronger, faster, smarter, and more capable than goku in every way.
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>>708307061
(cont)
that being said, superman is stronger right out of the box while goku messes around. superman most likely wins, but superman does not engage in hand to hand like goku does, cause he's never needed to
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>>708307023
Rydia from Final Fantasy 4.
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Sentry > superman > goku
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Goku wins if you exclude Supermans god level powers, like being able to make up superpowers on the fly and whatnot. Everything permitted Superman wins. Doesn't really matter either way since Superman is one of the most boring characters ever. He's basically binary, either there's kryptonite in which case he's completely useless, or there isn't in which case he wins regardless.
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>>708306056
Look up screwattack deathbattle on youtube. They did a great video on it, then after massive fan backlash they did a rematch. It's pretty definitive.
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>>708306056
The problem with this fight is that each of them is as powerful as their creator wants them to be. It's basically a dick-measuring contest between DC and Toriyama. Typically, the Americans win.
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>>708307490
No. Goku has no chance. Superman would end him, quickly. Honestly, the screwattack fight took too long. Super could probably one shot Goku.
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sonic > superman
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>>708308392
Ah, but we run into something interesting here. Superman's character wont allow him to one shot Goku. Remember, supes is a boyscout, not a hitman.
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>>708307593
This
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Alright since it seems that the majority says superman wins,

Next question is, who wins between superman and saitama???
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>>708308803
Saitama, why are you even asking?
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>>708308803
Fuck off, cunt. Tried watching that anime and it sucked.
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>>708308803
no idea, i dunno the limits (or lack thereof) of saitama
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>>708308803

Saitama, and this is from someone who says Superman would win verse Goku.
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Goku could destroy earth easily. Superman cannot.
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>>708307186
Nope. He's right. Saiyans literally have to be beaten to near death to make themselves stronger. The closer to death they are, they stronger they become. Canon.
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>>708306056
Goku has died several times before that's all you need to know
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>>708308803
D E A D P O O L
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>>708309414
Totally forgot about that
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>>708308861
They are both impossibly strong by what people say, superman prime is unbeatable...so i was wondering (since i never got into the superman prime shit) who would win

>>708308943
Im sorry you have no taste or tolerance to wait till a show gets good....should've at least watched the last 2 episodes
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>>708308945

limitless power, and defeats with one punch.
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>>708308683
Superman has killed plenty of times, especially more now in the new continuity. Depends on what version, the most popular ones have definitely killed, intentional or not.
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>>708309746
>you have no taste or tolerance
>posts some faggot from naruto
Get lost, kid.
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>>708307061
Nope, emotions help, either good or bad not just anger, but sajian RECOVER stronger than before.
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>>708307528
It's true, but I wouldn't say that One Punch Guy was the reason that anime was popular in north america, or why comic books are popular in north america.
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If Kek is goku or Goku then Goku wins hands down no competition...
Was kekking so facking hard...
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>>708308943
>Judges an entire anime after watching one episode

When you watch Naruto, make sure you judge it only on the first episode. To you it'd sum up the entire show.
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>>708309787
My character "dynamic richard" wins.
He can kill anyone just by pointing his erect dick at them.
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If Saitama is LITERALLY invincible and has ZERO ways of being killed, then I guess he wins.

Superman is still kill-able.
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Three words for you.
Super saiyan three
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>>708310424
One punch isn't bad when you realize it's making fun of every other anime. I watch it for a similar reason I watch squidbillies.
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>>708310424
The fighting animation is extremely well made....

Just cause its popular doesn't mean its shit
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>>708310686
You would like Gintama.
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>>708310766
Check'd and I'll look into it
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>>708310657
proof?
you got a scan saying he can never die, no matter what?
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>>708310666
we're up to god super saiyan blue now.

you're like 2 transformations behind.
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>>708306056
Well he is over 9000strong if that helps
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>>708310985
>If

I don't know jack shit about that anime other than bald dude can punch hard.
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If we change the fighter to cell vs supes and both were given a prep time then cell would win

He just blows up gets an insane powerboost regenerates from one cell
Blows up gets insane powerboost regenerate repeat til he becomes stronger than supes because dbz just says fuck all logic when creating new characters
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>>708311007
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superman fanboys love putting cannon goku up against super specific universe "that one time" supes
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>>708309511
This fag is right, at one point dead pool killed off the entire marvel universe including the writers
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>>708311189
Ah, my bad. Skimmed over the if.
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>>708311189
This
Kek kek kek
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>>708308943
You're an idiot.
I'm a black fag and enjoyed Saitama.
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>>708311548
And squirrel girl once defeated galactus. whats your point?
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>>708311807
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>>708311807
Bruh he killed the writers... How alpha does one need to be? Like he killed his worlds version of gods superman and goku would only take time
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>>708306421
then please oblige anon, i want to hear your proof that a character in one universe can beat another character from another universe in a fight, the reason there is never a final answer is because its not physically possible
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>>708307061
His strength doesnt come from anger but determination to win. (cept SSJ vs Frieza that was hard berzerk)
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>>708312085
alpha, yes. difficult? no.
they're about as powerful as the daycrew at burger king.
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>>708307596
Goku can teleport how can you be faster than that shit?
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>>708306056
goku can literally become god now

so there
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>>708307468
under rated post
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>>708312085
>>708311548
>>708309511
This


Plus he potentially browses 4chan
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>>708310614
To be fair Naruto has a pretty good story, just buried under countless episodes of filler.
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>>708308803
Me taking a shit on the toilet beats everyone.
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>>708311548
I fucking love deadpool :)
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>>708313526
Worst show ever
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>>708312400
How about if Supes accidentally killed krillin? That's something I'd like to see.
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>>708313000
trips of truth.

plus he reads his own comic books.
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>>708313526
A show that is also a beverage recommendation NICE!
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An opponent that superman cant beat, or run away from. (shadow tag)
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>>708310666
Checked!
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>>708306767
>losing is not part of goku's code
>lost against yamcha
>lost against roshi
>lost against general blue
>lost against tao
>lost against tenshinhan
>lost against tambourine
>lost against mutaito
>lost against cell (gave up)
>lost against cell junior
>lost against vegeta
also
>lost against heart virus (lol)

honestly I think having goku lose just makes him a better character, it's no fun when they're completely op
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>>708313368
Hey military u can fuck right off!!!
kek
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>>708314350
Not only a better character but stronger as well. The closer to death saiyans get the stronger the become when they heal
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>>708307528
well no shit lol
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>>708313633
Is it really that bad of a show? I've had friends recommend it, but I don't wanna sit through 600? episodes of meh.
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>>708314596
But all that doesn't mean anything when Superman has such a ridiculous amount of power that the only thing that could kill him for good is a Gary Stu - Batman.
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>>708314661
I dont wanna sit through 600 episodes of fuckin anything waste of time
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Goku is superman. It'd inevitably end in a staleman.
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>>708306056
Simple answer, goku can teleport.
Easily could kill superman instantly.
However, Goku's character keeps him from an easy victory. He has a complex where he feels it's necessary to fight an opponent at their best. Superman is almost invincible from our sun's radiation. Superman wins if personalities are added to the equation.
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>>708315198
hurrr duuurrrrr teleportation means insta kill
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I've watched every episode from Dragon Ball through GT. Coincidently, chronological order is the same for rate (best to worst) of the seasons.
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saitama loses to goku on namek
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>>708315073
Wsht ur saying is Kek vs Usa military os stalemate...wrll military is dupposy to take orders from mission impossible god J. I am him... E EWhat r u saying?
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>>708315198
I do wonder if superman could even hit goku. Idk how fast superman is, but I do know goku has instant transmission. Maybe goku can instant transmission to planet krypton (where I'm assuming kryptonite will be rather easy to find) and bring a bunch back with him and use it against supes. I could be wrong though.
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>>708314661
Its not too bad...i enjoyed most of the fighting scenes

Some parts are excruciatingly cheesy but other parts are epic like him going against 4 (or 3...i forgot...the one he thought was strongest)

Also its a show you can stop watching whenever and not feel the need to keep watching (and thats coming from someone that hates leaving shows unfinished) i stopped around episode 200
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>>708315770
goku has no way of knowing superman is from krypton
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>>708306056
Well, Goku can go toe to toe with the God of Destruction and their fight could of destroyed the universe if they weren't careful. Goku can take that form into a Super Saiyan version and get that much stronger. I don't think base Superman could take him.
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Gohan from the cell saga could beat superfag with only one hand
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>>708315901
I feel like Bulma could somehow find out with her fancy schmancy technology, or it'll get brought up eventually considering neither of them are actually from Earth.
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It depends what universe. If it was DBZ there would be a 20 episode arch on it

if it was a superman comic obviously superman would win in the end
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>>708315336
Um yeah, right into a red sun. I'm talking about capabilities. Goku could teleport him right into a red sun or a rock of kryptonite. But it's against his character. It's really easy to follow, sorry I talked over your head.
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>>708316274
He doesn't know about supermans connection to either of those you fucking dolt
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>>708315770
As far as capabilities yes, goku wins every time, but these two would never fight in the first place, but for arguement sake, with their personalities superman wins everytime.
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>>708315770
And I just remembered that Goku wouldn't resort to using krypton since he'd rather go up against Superman in a fair, all out fight.
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Fuck superman
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>>708307958
It was inaccurate and most of their research is inaccurate.
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>>708306056
nobody cares weeb
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>>708315901
That's not the question
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>>708316212
so the fight suddenly becomes Superman vs goku & bulma
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>>708316552
how is goku going to teleport him to a place he doesn't know about
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>>708316459
Jesus fanboy, I'm talking capabilities vs actual outcome. Is that too complex of a concept for you? Go cry to your mom in your superman pajamas.
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>>708316571
Well the Z-fighters have never sat out of a fight before, (excluding Beerus due to extenuating circumstances) and I doubt Bulma wouldn't help if it were in her power to do so. Regardless my post is already pointless due to my previous reply to it.
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>>708310614
Naruto was great from the first episode then made you regret watching it at the end
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>>708316745
Jesus, you people are a bunch of moronic children. The arguement is who would win, so I'm talking capabilities vs actual outcome. Use your heads people.
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>>708316745
Sorry, I'm more aggravated at the others not you.
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Hey Faggots,
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>708316884
omfg you cumstain, what point are you trying to make explain it in a non autistic way
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>>708316940
Brolly... Not beerus who the fucks a beerus thats 1...
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jimby jambo wins every time stupied idots
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>>708317323
If it's too complicated for you then, you're dumb. I can't dumb it down any further.
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>>708316940
sorry I missed your previous post
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>>708306056

superfag is a dumb piece of american shit.
go suck supermans cock and pray to hillary you faggots.
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but dosent superman have like impenetrable skin? like nothing can cause him any harm unless it's green rock or magic?
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>>708317350
But the Z-fighters didn't sit that one out. Goku had help from Gohan, Trunks, and Goten, and not to mention a whole lot of other people due to him receiving energy for his spirit bomb.
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>>708317479
no you just realized you don't understand what you are talking and cant come up with a way to explain it with more than 2 words about go dry hump you're hentai love pillow you weeaboo
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>>708317700
Unless papa Darkseid is slapping his bitch around.
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>>708317374
This is so true... Thx Kernal...
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>>708317607
that's the most cancerous post I've seen in a week, kill your self
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>>708310666
Noice
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>>708318025
supes holds back against darkseid cause he doesn't want to destroy the earth
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even though i hate superman....goku can and has been killed before. if superman just rips gokus head off, he's not getting wished back a 3rd(4th?) time
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>>708318180
>supes holds back against darkseid
Because he knows his place. That's just the foreplay, you see?
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>>708307468
Lulz
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>>708311007
What about SSJB w/ Kaio-ken 10x and the ability to beat an opponent who can see attacks slightly ahead of time. (From the Universe 6 and 7 tournament)
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>>708318409
Goku's only been wished back once. Second time Elder Kai gave Goku his life since he could do a lot more against Buu if he was alive.
Superman died like 7 or 8 times before Death of Superman. Superman is also currently dead in Rebirth.
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>>708308262
>contest between DC and Toriyama

The Americans always win because they've already nuked Japan once and would do it again if they had to.
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>>708317869
Between the two, Goku's capabilities far exceed superman. Goku could instantly kill supe..... simple
However, realistically Goku's character would never fight someone in that fashion. Goku would fight supe at his best, and goku would get worn out eventually and superman would win everytime... simple.
Dies that make it easier you hairy palmed dick sucker.
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>>708306699
Dubs don't lie
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>>708318666
irrelevant check
>>708318848
so i guess goku could have a 2nd chance at a fight and hope to not get his head ripped off again. his flesh is his weakness.
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Cell could destroy the Solar system with his Kame ma ha wave, Gohan was stronger at Ssj 2. Goku surpassed that as a Ssj 2 and at Ssj 3 his power is 4 times greater then a Ssj 2. Ssj 3 was repelled with 1 finger and then knocked with a chop by Beerus. The God form Goku could handle Beerus in a fight but not win. This means Goku's power was dramatically increased. He can now Turn Ss Blue increasing the God power 50 times as Super saiyan does. Goku could obliterate galaxies without much effort.
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>>708318815
Also, if Goku really wanted to, he could seal Superman inside a fucking rice cooker now.
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>>708310666
Got him there
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A little bit relevant but I watched a few episodes of DBZ and was wondering if I should watch DB super? Is it like DBZ but with no filler?
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>>708319533
DB Kai is Z with no filler
Super has a lot of filler since they need to give the manga a chance to catch up.
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>>708306056
Superman would punch Goku into the sun.

The end.
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>>708309349
This.
>>708310666
Satanic trips don't lie
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>>708319750
Thanks
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>>708306222
Trips for Truth.

Whenever Superman can't win a fight, they just give him more powers until he can win.
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>>708318062
Would be cool if that pic was completed
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>>708314596
You do realize even Akira said he forgot about that ability past the cell saga?
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>>708306357
Actually is a bald guy.
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>>708320000
dem quads. you deserve it
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>>708319047
really, you sure about that?
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>>708307528
Actually
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>>708309349
>Superman cannot.
Nigga you serious?
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>>708320033
He forgot a lot of things.
He gets Raditz and Yamcha confused a lot, and thinks Yamcha is a werewolf
He doesn't remember Android 16 at all
He thought 18 had purple hair
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>>708307912
>Superman is boring

Spotted the pleb.
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>>708320174
if i knew anything about astrophysics i'd tear that ass apart
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>>708320239
Light Wins
slashbread
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>>708306056
superman's a fagot.
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>>708306056
Sentry would kick both their asses!
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>>708316505
Weeb
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>>708306680
Pretty much this
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>>708320330
of you knew anything about comics and super man id tear you're ass apart, But sadly you only know about tentacles and gokus dick up your ass
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>>708320305
Kek at the 16, that's honestly a bit sad.
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>>708309414
thats some deep shit, if you really think about it.
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Why can't goku just grab some kryptonite somewhere to defeat superman? Goku has no kryptonite unless you consider his caring for others and superman won't use Goku's allies as leverage.
If it was a fight to the death, Goku knows that his friends need him to be alive and therefore would not hold back against superman unless innocent lives are at risk.

I've never been much of a comic book guy, the heroes were all lame with lame powers like superman; except spiderman, with an actually interesting power and story.
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>>708307596
goku can move faster than the speed of light. its how to teleports from planet to planet.
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>>708306056
Goku got beaten by a normal Ray. Fucking faggot.
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>>708306699
>>708319245
>>708306222
Trips negate the effects of dubs tho
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>>708320434
generic the superhero?
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(zamasu) godu black would fuck em both up
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>>708306056
they would both end up destroying the world, and take 20 episodes to do the last 30 seconds.
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>>708320518
tentacles are my specialty, ass kicking is my profession, and ball eating is my major. cum at me faget
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>>708320570
That's against Goku's character. He isn't going to use kryptonite.
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Goku could honestly just use the mafuba and win that way. He'd win by sealing superman away pretty simple
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>>708320680
You do realize Goku Black IS Goku right? At some point Goku will turn Rose
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>>708320713
Why wouldn't he use kryptonite to protect his home against an outside threat? It's not like anyone in his world would be hurt by him using kryptonite, but they would be hurt if he didn't and died because of it.
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>>708320518
DC's at the most popular it's been a long time with Rebirth. Superman isn't there.
This is mainly because Marvel can't stop fucking themselves, but Superman being absent at the height of DC's popularity in at least 5 years does throw up some red flags.
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>>708320174
Goku is strong enough to do this.
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>>708320699
instead of trying to support you're claim that goku would win you made a funny if not pathetic comment that shows signs of autistic behavior
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>>708320963
proof
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>>708316206
/thread
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>>708320809
Mafabu seals evil faggot, goku wins because he's stronger no matter what super fags says, besides if some one watches or reads superman then there opinion isn't worth anything because they are pathetic
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>>708308803
majority will say saitama then the question would be saitama vs goku. the funny conclusion would be goku. one big circlejerk.
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>>708306056
Goku would get his shit kicked in a thousand times over. Without kryptonite, superman is pretty damn op.
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here's the part I don't get about sups. Is he a regular kryptonian or mutated kryptonian.

Because if sups is a normal kryptonian then technically all kryptonian's should have the same powers. And since they were in theory an advanced race just with their heads up their asses, one of them should have realized how powered up kryptonians can get if they left their own star system.

So all the other kryptonian's should be gods too that are still alive in not in the krypton solar system

Where as saiyan all of them have same power they just need to work for it. And they had some one go 'oh shit they could be a powerful pain in the ass so nuke them while their weak'
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>>708307468
That's why he'd beat them both with one punch. Then jump back and forth from them moon a couple times in 1 second flat for fun.
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>>708317869
Basically what the other anon is trying to say is that supermans weakness is far worse than goku...all goku would need to do is have kryptonite...

So basically: if they know eachothers weakness, goku wins hands down...but since goku doesnt like easy wins he wouldnt use kryptonite and would probably lose ever time

Since the question is who would win a fight and no other rules were said...it can go either way depending on how the fight is...superman is stronger at his peak but has a horrid weakness where goku is weaker at his peak but has no odd weakness

So if they had the chance to study eachother before the fight goku wins

If they just meet up out of nowhere and duke it out, superman wins

I cant make it any more simple as that...like i dont know how you didnt figure it out before
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superman uses his breath to blow goku into the sun
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>>708320434
Man with the power of a million exploding suns.
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>>708320932
>Why wouldn't he
Because that would make Superman weaker. Vegeta would do that, but Goku wouldn't. Goku likes strong opponents, he wouldn't undercut that.
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>>708320987
you are really upset about this imaginary situation in your head, friend. i suggest taking a break from the internet so you can cool down mmkay champ?
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>>708320963
His fight with Beerus could of destroyed the universe if they weren't cateful
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0D0VGomWb4
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>>708311545
This is kinda true. Fifth dimensional powered Joker would kill all and end all over and over and over and over and over....
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>>708321459
everything is explained here faggots, plus a deathbattle
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>>708321128
Its like a retarded rock paper scissors match
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>>708320174
Goku can do this, except it wouldn't take him so long.
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This has already been concluded.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyl97TG8jbA
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>>708321102
This >>708320963
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>>708316188
beerus said he lied when he told goku he was at 70% of his full power.
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>>708314904
manga ended but not the anime.
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>>708321173
I figured it out but it's stupid, goku is stupid when it comes to fighting, while it is against his character to use it, he still has no knowledge of supermans weaknesses and no way of every finding out, just cause no rules were given doesn't mean they start off with hacked mind reading powers.
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>>708321618
Yeah I know but he was able to match what Beerus was dishing out.
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>>708321618
Whis confirmed Beerus was using 70% in the end of BoG, but that movie has no meaning to Super.
They didn't bring up the 70% thing in Super because Toriyama refuses to let Goku be stronger than Beerus. Goku's relation to Beerus's power is "you're a tree and I'm a castle". It's fucking stupid.
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Goku can only teleport to places he can sense ki btw.
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>>708321330
tired of 13 yearold faggots with their face buried so deep in goku's ass that they cant see how pathetic they are.
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>>708308803
Dunno the limits of saitama but superman has a ton going for him.
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>>708321568
give me some fucking proof
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>>708320239
My nigga
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>>708307528
no shit m8
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I love both characters but they both suffer inconsistency. I don't mind that Goku could beat Superman, but he hasn't done anything that could prove that he can keep up. Has he benched press and entire planet? Didn't Vegeta struggled with 1,000 tons?
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>>708321659
How do you know goku has no knowledge of superman? What if they studied their enemy before the fight?

Realistically, they wouldn't just see each other and start randomly fighting...they would have to know eachother and get mad at each other to start a fight...which could take enough time for goku to find out his weakness by then
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>>708321525
welcome to \b\. everything is a retarded rock paper scissors match.
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>>708321924
the limits of saitama are the limits of gag comedy. as long as the writer says saitama would win, he will.
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>>708321314
Would goku know Superman's weakness when they encounter each other? Probably not.
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Man, this fight is fucking stupid, DC should just do a fucking crossover and end it all with them both teaming up to take on Darkseid or Zamasu.
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>>708321884
that's quite a chip on your soldier. show me on the doll where goku touched you
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If DC was somehow forced to quantify Superman's strength and powers definitively than the answer would probably be Goku. That's because if you actually look at comics Superman is routinely outclassed by characters that wouldn't even be able to scratch Goku at his max.

The creator of Dragon Ball has said on record the power ratings for DBZ are not absolutes but figurative to give some scope of progress Goku or other characters have made in their training and judging by that progress you could easily make the argument that even the weakest of the DBZ cast would give Superman a run for his money.
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>>708321575
thats the old one. the new one is here by the same people:
>>708321459
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>>708322119
how would he study superman and like you said doing that would be out of character for him we all know goku likes fighting his opponents head on
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>>708322091
In Super, the shockwaves from Goku punches destroyed planets. Also, the manga for Super isn't canon; it's made soley to promote the show.
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superman is shit.
this monster would rape his ass.
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Goku isn't even the strongest in his universe.
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Hit could kill superman
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>>708321232
This would kill millions...like this would break the atmosphere and kill everyone...this logic is retarded

Not to mention...space is a vacuum so where would he get the air from also seeing as his body id the size of a normal human...he wouldn't be able to store enough air in his body to do anything for that long no matter how hard he can blow
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>>708321314
Goku likes protecting his home more than anything, including fighting strong opponents.
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>>708306056
If you were never a fan, why bring this shit up?

>>708322091
1,000 Tons? You clearly haven't been watching DB Super, or Battle Of Gods where they train in the atmospheric chambers, or in Beerus's training realm that Whis sent Goku and Vegeta to? Either of them could obliterate their opponent up to ep. 55 of SB Super (post tournament), but only Vegeta retains that kind of evil thought, due to his past.
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>>708322492
neither is superman?
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>>708322396
Where did they show that? I don't remember.
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>>708322620
Also to expand on this...which Supes? New 52? Supes reborn?
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>>708322693
in the battle of the gods arc of super
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>>708322318
in the feels, goku is a good character but he gets ruined by a shitty fanbase who overhype him and turn him into a joke
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>>708321459
>goku cant survive in space vacuum
he literally fights with beerus in space
their opinion = shit
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>>708322492
We know that Hit is...big deal.
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>>708322620
You clearly haven't read the manga. And the show is worst.
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>>708307468
I know a superhero stronger than onepunchman and superman and goku. His name is luckyman, look up his ability. Impeccable good luck. Meaning if he fought superman, an asteroid of kryptonite would land on his head before he got a punch off.. If he fought one punch man, hed have a heartattack before his punch..

YOU CANNOT NAME A SUPERHERO WHO CAN BEAT LUCKYMAN BECAUSE IMPECCABLE GOOD LUCK IS IMPOSSIBLE TO BEAT.

>pic related
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This fucker would wreak Superman.
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>>708322796
Kinda like Batman.
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>>708322589
it's a comic it doesn't need to make sense
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>>708322896
Well, he could. Goku on the other hand.
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>>708322796
yes the curse of giant fanbases. it's inevitable really
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>>708322896
well no shit, hes literally the owner of the multiverse
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>>708322906
yes batman was really good for a while but now hes one of the worst
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>>708322358
Read
>>708322606
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>>708322796
This.
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>>708322896
not luckyman
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Strongest Man is stronger than any man so he can beat them both no problem.
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>>708323061
didn't stop him from letting cell slaughter an entire army while he had a picnic
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>>708306357
>9gag watermark
Fuck off to 9fag
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>>708323189
That never happened.
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>>708323167
hey, that's pretty good
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>>708322796
this is fucking dumb he could have teleported back but he wanted to go fight in the death tournament.
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>>708323167
I cant believe I saved that fucking drawing
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>>708323057
His fan base is cancer. He is even more Op than Goku and Superman combined.
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>>708322861
The manga is boring as shit compared to the show, and the characters in the manga version are interesting as wet cardboard
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>>708323167
bulma could beat him
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>>708323358
There are men stronger than bulma so no.
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>>708322318
Keked hard
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>>708323321
He has been beaten multiple times and he usually wins to make story progress and the fans can't understand that
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>>708323253
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpZK8fKgiuE
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I beat them both with my dark powers XD
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>>708323323
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>>708307593
>Superman is boring
>Goku is a better character

Look at the pleb.
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>>708323585
Z kai isn't cannon lmao
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>>708322874
No one can argue with luckyman logic. /thread luckyman wins against anyone
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>>708323557
Yup, Deathstroke, lady Shiva, he'll Superman has too.
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Let's be REAL-io here guys,the Flash could beat Superman and Goku combined!
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>>708323745
is it kai ill try and find a manga scan its gonna take a bit though
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>>708323139
Im guessing that as the owner of the multiverse, he could take away his luck before killing him
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>>708323636
The. Manga. Is. Not. Canon. For. Super.
It's purely made to promote the show, which is the canon source this time around.
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>>708323964
I'll save you the time and effort: there isn't one.
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>>708323777
That's a nice luckyman get
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Look goku wins anyways. If he uses the mafuba no matter what goku wins. It doesn't matter how strong they are if goku uses that move its all over.
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Everyone seems to be forgetting the fact that superman gets his power from our yellow sun... not the sun from a solar system over, not from his home system. Our sun. Goku powers come from within and he could just blow up our sun and then flick superman off like a mosquito. then use the dragon balls to bring the sun back.

Am I wrong?
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>>708324054
more coming
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>>708324520
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>>708324013
before trying to take away his luck something would happen, lose attention or something..
impeccable good luck is impossible to beat logically.
It's not just "good luck" its IMPECCABLE..
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>>708324587
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>>708324261
Well yeah...if the resulting super nova doesn't fry the earth and they gather the Dragon Balls in the 8 hours time before all of the sunlight that once emanated from the center of the solar system has passed earth.
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>>708322861
>>708324050
This. This, and Abridged, are just fanservice that happen to be interesting. No need to go full weeabo on those of us leading normal lives and who catch up every week.
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bitches plz
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>>708324261
yup.
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>>708323777
777 check em luckyman
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>>708324640
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In Goku vs. Superman, Superman simply wins. Goku has no way to defeat Superman, but Superman has options to beat Goku.

However, against Saitama, Supes loses, as Saitama has an option to kill Superman. The fact that Saitama wins every fight with one punch (even against the space guy in episode 12, since before he wasn't trying at first.) Even with healing factors or invulnerability, Saitama punches them too fast and too hard to have either of them be anything.

So, Saitama wins anyway.
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>>708324208
ohshiiii didnt even notice
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Every enemy holy faces is the strongest ever and then after he defeats them the next strongest undefeatable enemy comes and he beats them, that's all super man is , another undeafetable enemy that has already lost without the 94 episode fight because super man's presence would just give dbzs aids
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