What's the most philosophical question you ever asked yourself?
Mine is eg why is it OK to kill a spider but not a human?
>>708135169
If I tell them the diacovery will they kill me for it?
Is me being alive knowing the absolute truth beyond any doubt with full blown tangible physical proof more important than me being killed off for revealing the truth but in foing so altering all that is human ob the planet.
I decided to keep my mouth shut and reveal it when I am 70.
>>708135538
Sofry for typos.
Mobile keyboard is tiny
>>708135538
Can't wait for you to become 70
>>708135169
That's not a philosophical question.
>>708135538
But of you really know the truth you know you don't have to be afraid of anyone even death
>>708135877
What is then?
>>708135169
whats in my left pocket
>>708135972
not him but shit like "what is beauty?" counts, i think
>>708136065
Everything and nothing
>>708136127
but what about only one thing?
>>708136110
So what's beauty to you then?
>>708136065
Probably your scrot
>>708135625
Drop me a throwaway email you use for bullshit and ill make a note and send you an email someday this week when im free to write a lot if you wish (ill send the proof method as well)
But before you decide to share it remember that they will fucking murder you and probably eat you alive
>>708135169
when doesnt 1 + 1 = 2
>>708135926
You misunderstand
There are far worse things than death
My truth will cause mayhem, it is THE game changer. It will make man eat man with me first
And the things that come after are worse.
A certain kind of imprisonment that I can't talk much about.
>>708136219
Sorry this was meant for
>>708135774
>>708136330
when 1 is 2 before it was separate, IE 2+0=1
>>708135169
How does one find purpose in existence if there is no purpose to anything existing?
Is one supposed to live in servitude, making the joys of other beings, who also have no reason to exist, priority?
Living for oneself is incredibly narcissistic, too. But this, too, is frivolous, what can you do in a system that you cannot manipulate? The only thing you have an effect on is this insignificant, arbitrary frame of reference on reality that is human society.
The universe has no intrinsic value, all value is perceived, and these perceptions of this chaotic nothingness mean even less.
>>708135169
If all of my perception of reality is through the filter of my brain, how can I prove that anything else is real? How do I prove I am not god?
>>708135538
If you already know and understand the truth, then others know it too. Think about what we ARE and know that it sent, in fact you were the receiver at one point. We are here... reveal nothing, only chosen few are meant to make it past the... lets call it trials and tribulations shall we. At all costs keep your mouth shut.
>>708136375
In the age of information overload folks won't believe your "truth" and will either laugh at you or ignore you. Dork
>>708135538
nigga, you can't even use a fucking keyboard you got nothing secret or otherwise to contribute to humanity.
go fuck yourself.
>>708136219
Can't wait to read what you will write
>>708136879
If he really knows then its known. Maybe one day you will get it. Until then you mentally and emotionally cannot handle it.
Why does God have so many excuses when shit goes wrong but takes all the credit when things go right? Hes like that asswhole in freshman year of highschool that you hate so much.
>>708136666
I will email you, satanbro lol
>>708136683
Mother fucking precisely.
This is why I will stfu.
You kinda get it.
>>708136879
You have no idea
Nooooo fucking idea how fucked you are
At a fucking cosmic scaled fucked
Cosmically fucked
But ok never mind.
>>708136375
We dont share knowledge not GIVEN to us. One must understand before they know. /topic
>>708136523
Nothing is everything
It's about what you make out of it
>>708136666
Check it Tuesday or Wednesday
I will remember you faggot so remember to check the inbox
>>708136551
Why would you wanna prove that when you know that you are one or at least will be one?
>>708136683
Maybe it's our duty to help those others through the trials
>>708137199
But you don't get it.
Even the act of "making something out of it" is arbitrary in the full scope, and is only relevant in your own frame of reference.
>>708137159
Man. Forget everything I said
Everyone disregard my posts, I suck cocks
Op carry on with philosophical questions.
To the one anon who understood, I love you bro.
>>708135169
cuz spiders are meaningless bugs
>>708137112
Which God your talking about?
We are all a god
>>708137112
I don't think God makes any excuses, I think people try to make excuses for him. Not nearly in the same ballpark. I'm sure everything's going as planned.
not a question but a big fear.
im afraid im the only one alive and everyone around me is just a stimulation, i might be nuts but its something i genuinely fear and i usually justify bad decisions because of it
Can we at least get the anons that "understand" to reveal the answer to humanity's penultimate question?
"What happens after you die?"
>>708136683
elaborate on your post
you two sound like gaylords that are on to something
>>708137426
That scene from the first Punisher movie runs threw my head.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfxXcBJ0LP0
In time your time will be no more.
>>708135169
Sye Ten Bruggencate introduced me to this question: "could you be wrong about everything you know?" The answer of course is "no" ... as an intellectual exercise I think of things I know that I can't be wrong about.
>>708137452
Oh trust me I get it
In full scope ist irrelevant that's true because there are endless universes and endless possibilities so if you do something or not doesn't matter in full scope.
If you chose to be the version of you that does nothing and you are content with it be my guest.
But eternity is long so make something out of it that is great for your personal experiences I mean why not? Doesn't mean anything anyway ;)
>>708135538
babies first acid trip
>>708135169
Is supersymmetry valid? Is bubble theory? If the observable universe is 90.68 billion light-years wide, and we've barely scratched the surface, is that enough? Do I want children? Am I a result of emergent properties, or something more? Can we capture that essence, or would taking the most basic behavioral states of my persons, and translating them to an appropriate universal learning machine suffice? What will it mean, when we sanction genetic editing of human beings in contemporary society? Will we ever get over our tendency to default? Will we ever abandon our trivial concerns for greater things?
Will history continue to repeat itself, regardless of the fact that we are not savages living in time immemorial?
How hard would it be to translate values and information into people, in a "just" way? Would it be valid- would it be right? What is justice, or, what should justice be? Who should care? Who should decide? Do I care? Do I decide? Is it better to simply not do this- is it better to live in the ivory tower, and tell people sweet nothings, and manipulate them for their own benefit?
Or should we rip the band-aid off completely, and deliver some form of determinism to the masses in one easy to consume package, giving them the ability to embrace it to degrees, or reject it completely? Should some people really have power?
Why would anything with a concept of mortality and a limited perspective, want to live forever with a concept of mortality and a limited perspective but seemingly infinite agency? Would I, could I, accept that fate? Will I be able to triumph over this state of mind, where I constantly hypothesize about the if and when, and cannot yet assume to know the how and why? Will I ever be truly old enough to have tackled all of the trivial things a human being can experience in a century- especially given that the world we live in, for now, contains the records of innumerable lives and experiences?
Is today the day I kill myself?
>>708137639
Infinit realities chose your personal one carefully
Why did I have to be born?
>>708137682
"I know the purpose of life"
Sure they do.
>>708135538
>>708136683
>>708137679
Whatever you want to happen it can end it can start over and existence can go on... or everything together at once
>>708138015
More like experiments, trial and error and cause abd effect with sight visable results
Bro seriously just disregard everything. If you want throw an email address and I'll share. But your life after that is entirely up to you.
You will have to make the same decision I did.
>>708135169
>Mine is eg why is it OK to kill a spider but not a human?
so you are 10 years old
are humans good or evil??????
>>708136683
>>708135538
Go on, enlighten us.
Why not let this world advance quicker?
Probably because you're trolls and don't know shit
>>708138336
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtvgXAykIac
/topic
>>708136330
Synergy
>>708136375
I'm sure it will
>>708138243
Neither
>>708138336
Riddle for you:
It has all been said and done and tbh its quite clear in front of you. You have to SOLVE it your yourself, life is a puzzle.
If you catch my drift.
>>708138034
If we find intelligent life elsewhere, before creating non-human intelligent agents, will it matter at all?
Will it fundamentally change the way we think about anything, or will it be a trivial footnote in the recorded history of mankind? Will we actually think anything of it, besides dispelling a sense of isolation, and inspiring a renewed sense of fear in the immediately unknowable?
>>708138612
You're a real obscurantist.
>>708137531
Humans too
>>708138336
Not here
Post throwaway email
>>708137132
Lol "end of the universe" we know the universe will end, it's not news
>>708137159
Given by whom
>>708138700
Once you find the clarity you'll get it.
>>708138794
I never said end of universe
What the actual fuck?
>>708136683
So when did you meet or see or understand nothing and got enlightened?
>>708137639
He's onto us
>>708138835
Why would you think its a singular Who?
>>708138856
But you're not giving the clarity, and you're suggesting that the clarity is a thing in nature that can be found, and since this is the case, clarity is a rarity, and given the probabilistic nature of nature itself, you're not wholly guaranteed to find clarity at all.
You are deliberately being vague about nothing. You have nothing I want to know. You are a horrible human being.
>>708138921
Your statement is closer then you are.
>>708135169
In ridding myself of negativity am I only polarizing myself to another extreme and in turn keeping myself out of balance?
>>708139021
Think about that. You find your answers in your questions.
>>708138222
-_- better not be a troll or email harvester
[email protected]
Email me if you want me to get a more secure email
>>708137679
That isn't the penultimate question.
The correct question is:
What is the nature of reality?
>>708139110
You are a horrible human being, and you are suggesting that I am more enlightened than you will ever hope to be.
This is what I think about that.
>>708139028
Oh I've met her
God is probably just an individual of a more advanced society and we're the testing grounds of their ai program, which may be considered "human" to them
>>708135169
If energy can neither be created nor destroyed, how did the universe poof into existence by accident as atheists claim it did?
>>708138794
How can this be? No matter what the final state of the universe may be, it will still exist in some sense, and therefore will not end.
Even if it decays completely into subatomic particles traveling at light speed in all directions, then the universe will exist as subatomic particles traveling at light speed in all directions,
>>708139180
Reality is a very subjective thing
>>708139345
Maybe it never poofed into existence.
>>708135169
Because all spiders are reincarnated nazis.
Why do I stop breathing when I notice I am breathing? Why do I blink so much when I notice I am blinking?
>>708138746
>>708139139
I also have some theories of existence if you want or I could just listen to what you have to say
>>708139410
Maybe it was never not which makes it eternal
>>708139345
Nice try but if we don't need an excuse for God always existing, we don't need an excuse for the universe always existing.
Do you think you're so lucky that you became human.. when you could be a plant or a microbe..
>>708139367
Poincare's Recurrence Theorem suggests, but not proves, that it's also possible that a sort of house-of-cards effect takes place in the soup of immediately exactly similar particles spaced out at a fixed rate... and something fantastical happens, and the universe stops being a false vacuum, and things start re-organizing themselves in the commotion, not unlike a big bang sort of deal.
>>708139494
You're stupid. That's exactly what I just said.
>>708139561
Human is a temporal thing
>>708135169
"What's the name of this type of pizza?" - me right now in 2016
>>708138950
If I asked for plurality you'd probably ask why not singularity
>>708139673
loooks so damn good
>>708139139
Noted
You and the other anon from the thread eill receive emails Tuesday or Wednesday
Don't worry anon delivers.
>>708138034
yes. yes it is. stream it faggot.
Op here again first of all thanks for the interesting conversation
Second what are your religious or spiritual views?
Mine is a polytheistic heteraric anarchy
>>708135169
"I'm starving yet I have no desire to eat. Why is this?"
>>708139345
Dipshit, if it can't be created or distroyed how did you God will it ? And to answer your question google the Big Bang Theory
>>708139483
Throwaway emails are better thann 4chan
>>708139862
>implying I can stream anything
>implying you're the one making the decision
How about you reciprocate the action. Then, at least one of those things can be true.
>>708139839
I respect your paranoia, but I just don't understand why someone would kill you over a theory when chances are you'll be labeled a conspiracy theorist
>>708139646
what d fuck do you mean by temporal?
What's so wrong with rape
>>708137639
I have the same thoughts anon. Maybe there are only a few real people, the rest hollow imitations of people?
>>708139699
Noted
So far 3 folks want
Ill forward it to all 3 of you on Tuesday or Wednesday
>>708138034
Some good questions, but learn to be concise. It's a great trait.
>>708140116
If you believe you exist eternity why limit it to be as a human beeing
>>708140139
"Muh Feelings"
>>708140254
Those questions were fairly concise given their subject matter.
There were just many questions.
>>708140259
Sending dick pics
>>708140090
A theory can be disproven
I've hit a fact something with a constant true result when experimented with.
Is my age real?
>>708140437
Can you deliver on Monday?
Really can't wait to read your material
Will reply with my thoughts on it if you want to
Email me too.
[email protected]
>>708140259
Noted
You're number 4
Tuesday or Wednesday
To all 4 of you. Be very careful as after I send you the full truth I will not be having any form of communication with any of you
If anything I am experimenting with you. I want to see what would happen if others knew. And I sincerely hope you don't use the information to commit suicide as humanity will fucking rip you to shreds if you go public
To everyone else carry on im just a nigga with a rocket launcher role playing etc
>>708139896
null
I like to assume that the world is, at best, a simulation- which doesn't make me any less real, or invalidate my existence at all. "God" in the machine, "God" as the universe in its entirety. "God" as gravity, "God" as causality. The potential for there to be agents with "God"-like capacity. At worst, I like to assume that this is all one fantastical dream, or something else. Regardless, I exist, or am experiencing an illusion which has no contrast, and thus, still exist as an illusion that believes it is real.
Op here.
I suspect that at least a few in this thread will know what I mean when I say my name is noone. Ask me anything
>>708139673
>not cheese pizza
>>708135169
>Mine is eg why is it OK to kill a spider but not a human?
Life is precious except for people different from me, people that disagree with me, people whose death furthers my plans, people with evidence or witnesses, and the ones I kill indiscriminately with drones.
>>708140160
My new favorite term, a term that idiots use to feel superior that simultaneously references how moronic they are!
>>708140744
Trust me we will have contact. Maybe not in this universe, this eternity or this life but we will meet ;)
OP here by the way
>>708135169
The universe: time and space, is a self-contained phenomenon. What is the root cause of it all? That's the biggest question.
Either it's pure hazard, or it's intentional.
Hazard could work, but the whole stability of our universe relies on very precise constant. Make the tinyest change, and everything collapse.
If it's intentional, then the best guess is that the whole thing is an experiment. Or worse, purely for entertainment.
We're just some fish in a bocal, either in a lab or in a living room.
>>708140594
I can try
Im on my phone but I'd rather I used a public net Caffè for this event.
I know a place where they don't monitor guests and the worker/owner are useless to whoever asks.
I will make a new email from a remote location and then drive to that Caffè and send you the theory. I would love to hear your thoughts but I doubt you'll duscuss anything with me. I think you'll just itch to tell others once you follow my experiment steps and see for your self.
I heavily urge you not to be idiots and make too much noise as I am 100% sure they will end you. Literally bury you asap.
why are they so stupid??? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBTYmcbZMRI
>>708141123
MODSMODSMODS
>>708141042
Granted our creation and that of the universe was practically impossible, but given an eternity, it's almost certain
>>708140674
Welcome number 5
I noted you down
This is interesting. The more people join the highier the chances of this surviving in case I end up silenced
If I'm an aspie who will never fall in love and have a normal relationship, marriage, or kids. And will probably die alone.
Then what's the point in living?
pic related, will never have
>>708139575
Not 100% sure of the point you are making here, if you are agreeing with what I said or are disagreeing with what I said. First off, there are things already moving in all directions faster than light (from our relative standpoint) ...how are you going to make all of these particles exactly similar and then make them all spaced out at a fixed rate? This is like "suggesting" that everything in the universe might spontaneously turn into paperclips, so we should consider that as a possibility.
Either way, even if this thing happens that you described, then the universe will then still exist as whatever "that" is or becomes.
>>708135169
>If humans make choices using mental processes based on beliefs, and we have no control over our beliefs or our rationality, where the hell is free will?
>If morality IS the word of a god, how are we to judge that that god is good? Does that not throw out the idea of an evil god, and consequentially, the idea of a good one? If morality is something else, how can we prove it exists?
>If God is just, will he not judge me fairly? Why should I worry, then? If I am punished, I must have deserved it, and is not punishment for the wicked, i.e. justice, a good thing in the end?
Shoutout to Newton's Flaming Laser Sword. 360° turned me from a bible thumper with it all figured out to pic related
>>708140965
We already did plenty of times.
Just too many "restarts"
Is your email on the list?
>>708135169
we can kill spiders because they kill loli
>>708141123
Oh trust me I know some shit myself.
Even met some of the agents as they asked me out about what I know. Needless to say they tried to erase the memory of it ever happening
>>708141042
wrong
>>708140761
Being non-corporeal are you shiny and/or wiggly?
>>708141474
what about spider loli?
>>708141209
Noted and noted.
You can screencap this post and keep the image on yohr desktop so you all remember to check yiur throwaways Tuesday or Wednesday
>>708136330
when you're talking in terms of biology
one male + one female = 3+ members of the species
>>708141042
>but the whole stability of our universe relies on very precise constant. Make the tinyest change, and everything collapse
We don't know how many times unstable universes with different constants collapsed and re-expanded before we arrived at this current apparently stable one. (though just a rudimentary examination reveals it's actually not very stable at all. The fact that every element spontaneously decays reveals that right away)
>>708141434
The first one you got
lol
Why are they watching me?
>>708141375
Free will exists, but can be predicted by nature and nurture
this world is probably a test for God to decides who enters his world. It would make sense he doesn't want Hitler, Stalin, Osama, or homosexuals
>>708141824
Everyone enters the world that comes after this. The question is do they stay. Or do they decide to do a doover
>>708141196
Well, the concept of eternity relies on time as we know it, which is a pure product of our universe.
We are forever ignorant of anything outside our universe.
>>708136330
you're missing the bigger picture.
why does 1+ 1 = 2
>>708141824
If so, how does it work? And how do we prove that it exists within our minds?
>>708141333
Well, I was assuming that you were referencing the fact that many suspect that things like dark energy exists, and that it affects the way matter behaves, and thus the constant expansion of matter from some supposed point of origin in the universe is a result of dark energy. You know, when you referenced subatomic particles decaying and spiraling off into other trajectories.
Thus, what I thought you were describing, was "the big rip". Aka, heat death, where the strong forces between particles, over time, becomes overwhelmed by the lack of interaction between clusters of actual matter, and dark energy. So much, that the particles being held together, right down to the very quarks, are ripped apart, and sent in every other direction, away from one another, until everything is an exactly similar soup of the most basic particle.
I said fixed rate, because I'm operating under the assumption that the speed of light is a hard constant in a vacuum, and no form of energy, no particle, can circumvent this simply by traveling through space itself- for whatever reason.
And I mean, it is a possibility for the time being, and people do consider it. I just want you to know that, ultimately, I was agreeing with you regarding the notion that the universe wouldn't seem to just vanish or appear out of nothingness- that it doesn't seem like it can be destroyed, only changed. That it will still exist, regardless.
>>708141775
Because they think they can scare us by showing their presence even though they don't have any more power over us than we have over them
>>708141824
what? that's not free will if it can be predicted
>>708135169
On what planet and in what life would I have chosen differently?
Am I happy in that life?
If possibilities exist beyond our understanding, would there be planet's where everyone is happy?
Is our understanding of love correct?
Why do we have the ability to think and feel if we truly just are simple biological beings and there's nothing "mysterious" or Godly about our existence?
>>708141991
Because someone said so and we accepted it
>>708141631
This is my new favorite fetish.
>>708141497
I am still under the radar
Tbh it's not any agency I Worried about
The common folk worry me more
I am more likely to be silenced by a disappointed scared normal civilian who had his/her life shattered by my truth than I am from some agent.
I am not a conspiracy theorist
I just know what all this is and it is unfuckingbelievably heart crushing
Even after death when this body is put in the dirt.. that's when it gets worse. You are doomed to grind through torture of life with absolutely no way of escape
Not even those who probably could help are able to do anything about it, least not for a couple hundred years
>>708141824
Assuming god doesn't like those people even though each are different. Maybe he only wants Hitlers. Maybe we've been led astray and fooled.
better than tinder! plenty of hornyy girls of your city on http://gmy.su/:rcCh
>>708142090
Yeah. The thing I noticed about free will is that there's no explanation how it works or how something like it can be consistent with reality, either physically or metaphysically.
>>708142158
Because putting one thing next to another thing makes two things, dingus. It's empirically true. Go try it, if you're such a skeptic.
>>708141729
That's the multi-verse theory. Doesn't prevent it for being an experiment: lot of universe bubbles popping in a tube. Makes total sense to me.
>>708142090
Every possible outcome is possible and therefore exists we decide which Roudham of those we take
>>708141631
she is loli so she don't kill loli. spiderloli is fine
>>708141748
I got you babe
Hope you like the info when you read it
I had imagined telling others and my imagination conjured both reactions of acceptance and rejection
I hooe you're strong enough not to become depressed from it
I love you so fuckin much whoever you are
what if I am god and I made up this life to live in for a bit because I was bored
>>708142438
How could you prove it either way?
>>708142290
if you put an atom of matter and an atom of dark matter together you get nothing.
checkmate
>>708142197
Only if you precieve eternity and existence as torture.
>>708142090
Were it not therefore for the weird and probabilistic quantum rules according to which atoms seem to behave, and in the absence of any non-physical, spiritual or supernatural dimension to our consciousness of which we have no evidence, we would have to admit that we too are part of Newton’s clockwork, deterministic universe and that all our actions are preordained and fixed in advance. In essence, we would have no free will- the future is wholly predictable.
But, that future is only knowable if we were able to view the whole of space and time from the outside. But for us, and our consciousnesses, imbedded within space-time, that future is never knowable to us. It is that very unpredictability that gives us an open future. The choices we make are, to us, real choices, and because of the butterfly effect, tiny changes brought about by our different decisions can lead to very different outcomes, and hence different futures. Chaos theory.
>>708142197
Don't get me wrong I ain't scared of them they amuse me as I play with them
>>708142552
lmao
>>708142568
How does a lack of knowledge or an unpredictable universe presuppose to free will? Sounds just like clockwork without predictability.
>>708142438
Yes similar to playing a game over and over with all the cheats on, life as God would be super boring. You gotta turn up the difficulty to have a good time.
>>708142566
Existing as a human on this particular planet is the very definition of torture
I'd much rather be vibrating entire galaxies together and creating my own world
You don't know this but you
Specifically you
As in you you and you have created a planet somewhere
But you were an asshole somewhere ...and did something not good
Inb4 god doesnt exist" if god exist why does he not talk to us but instead leaves riddles and leftover scrolls maybe we arent worthy to hear his voice . Wew lad
>>708142438
That's what I did too.
Nice to meet you
>>708142978
oh dang he got me there
wew lad
>>708142719
How do you know this?
Are you sure?
In that case I should prolly stfu entirely lol
>>708142776
All im saying is I haven't had a meeting yet
>>708142944
Dude I do this shit for fun I have a box of planets laying around in my apartment. Positive and negative ones
>>708143087
Like I said I will write you after I read your notes
Also I know this because I'm one of them
A question I always ask myself when I feel myself zoning out is "What is genius? and how can we differentiate a genius from an autistic savant or from a polymath?"
Was Mozart a genius? Or savant?
Was Da Vinci a genius? Or polymath?
Is that autistic guy who can paint the skyline of New York City a genius? Or just a mutation?
Is that woman who can remember every second of her life, a genius?
And then this is the most important part.
Play a game where you split yourself up into different teams and argue with yourself. Formulate an argument for why mozart is a genius and also why he is not.
Then pretend you are part of the dictionary committee and it's your job to figure out what's different between these words.
>>708143368
I have a feeling we are going to do a lot of things together
>>708135169
why is it spider to kill a human but not ok?
>>708142059
>until everything is an exactly similar soup of the most basic particle.
Please be aware I'm not trying to be obtuse, it just comes naturally. I'm not arguing for the sake of wanting to argue in other words.
Is a soup flying apart in all directions at maximum allowable speed still a soup? My conception of the Big Rip, being that Dark Energy apparently gains strength with more distance and emptiness, would be an ever accelerating bubble of relativistic mass/energy (interchangeable at that point) ...it would still leave a giant vacuous spherical empty space "inside" the bubble. Kind of like what we observe now with cosmic background radiation.
>I said fixed rate, because I'm operating under the assumption that the speed of light is a hard constant in a vacuum, and no form of energy, no particle, can circumvent this simply by traveling through space itself- for whatever reason.
This hard rule only applies, as you said, to something traveling through space. For an observer say here on Earth, if something is traveling along with expanding space, then relative to us, this limit does not exist.
What if were created and our creator saw our flaws and was disgusted and left us to our own devices while he goes on to create better universes
>>708142059
also, my original point was a response to the idea that the universe would "end" at some point.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vhanw7EyH38
for all you people who think the universe it what they tell you it is
>>708142944
>>708143779
Looking forward to meeting goes you.
Like I said
>>708144092
Ok let's explore that
That would imply that the creator can make mistakes.
Which means that the creator is flawed too.
If the creator is flawed, then who created the creator?
Shouldn't there be a perfect being at the very top who creates in that case?
If not, then why would we be created by a creator but the creator wasn't created?
Why you don't do what you supouse to do
>>708144509
What of the creator created himself and then became human and as a human created himself therefore wasn't perfect.
>>708135538
You can't tell people things they don't already know. If you told the truth all that would occur is for you to get hurt and the truth to be more effectively covered up via shillios studying your source of it.
This anon might not know the truth, but he isn't wrong about its consequences.
>if he knew everyone would know, praise the third eye
What a bunch of hippy dippy bullcrap.
I have wondered what it would be like IF you had your eyes on your stomack. But your brain is still on your head. Where would you hear your thoughts?. Over you or behind you?
>>708144509
Hmmm maybe there was a perfect creator and he created other creators and the perfection of each creator deminished over time and we are a universe of beings created by one of the most flawed creator going on a soul searching journey try to created something perfect yet being flawed
>>708144746
This is my favorite fucking comment in this whole godforsaken thread holy shit blessed be
>>708144643
>the creator created himself
That makes no fucking sense.
>>708144746
in the place where our ears are, I think
First world I created where Lucifer and my other children lived as mayan humans and then died and became gods in eternity
If God was already perfect, why did he need to create the universe? Why did he need to create people that would love him? How can a perfect being be that abjectly needy?
>>708144746
What would "gut feelings" be like?
>>708144892
Ok then I would ask this
If a creator was perfect in every way, how could he create something that had a flaw?
If the perfect creator created another creator, wouldn't his created creator be perfect too?
Pls, stop thinking about god. There's no god.
>>708143368
muh secret club
Of course we have free will, God imposed it onto us. (obvious irony should be obvious)
>>708143885
I'd still call it a soup, if only because from the perspective of something traveling through space, the expanding field would consist of relatively the same nature, at what seems like a maximum allowable speed. What would be constituting that field, would be the rendered results of all possible matter or energy in that given system itself- the universe. It would be of a uniform nature (relatively), so I'd assume.
The hard rule does only apply to something traveling to space... it's kind of why I mentioned such. If I mentioned otherwise, I may as well have not posted anything to begin with, because relative to an observer here on Earth, assuming Earth can exist somehow given the hypothetical situation, light is expanding as fast as the universe is.
How fast would the universe seem to be expanding, then? Well, allegedly, there's no point in considering that, because dark energy is something else, and allegedly it would progressively become so "fast" that we wouldn't even be able to register the existence of past movement- assuming we can even register any sort of residual interaction whatsoever.
>>708144971
>>708144971
>if god was perfect, why didn't he just sit there?
Because he isn't a boring lazy ass
>>708136219
I'm pretty interested in this too, I made a new throwaway email if you're still going to forward this out to people
[email protected]
>>708144937
Sure it does just create something like a drawing and say it is you then send it out in the universe to evolve into you.
We are living in the microcosmos what you create here is what is real in that what comes after this life
>>708145058
Did you know that you have neurons in your gut?
>>708145113
>>708136181
The one ring?
>>708135169
>Why is it okay to kill millions of bacteria everyday.
You're worse than Mao, you dirty bastard.
>>708145305
But that's not really creating yourself.
That's sounds more like duplicating yourself.
>>708144333
Do you see?
Do you fucking see 2
What I mean?
I fucking knew you created planets
High five
>>708144704
Hence why I don't want to tell anyone yet
But I will once im 70 and to those 5 emails
>>708144908
Noted
Make that 6 emails so far
Goooood goooood
>>708145111
To have something to do
How is this not incredibly obvious?
>>708145544
Just decide that that's the starting point then it's creating yourself after your own image
>>708145264
You my friend are number 7
I have noted you and will send you
>>708145355
And a tissue nodule connected by nerves straight to the heart and brain that doctors are "unconcerned" with studying. But yeah, cool huh?
>>708145403
>I don't understand evolutionary theory therefore it's wrong
>>708144509
>what about base reality
I had this one today:
Be like the wind,
Sometimes it blows,
Sometimes it doesn't,
But whatever it's doing,
It does it.
>>708145264
When he tells you what he found out, please copy and paste it or transcribe the words for us, scribe for the human race anon.
>>708144509
that's like saying He made mistakes because humans are imperfect
Given enough time humans would be able to simulate and control a universe of their own
>>708145553
>can't tell people things
>exactly my good man, that's why I'm gonna do it
Garbage.
>>708145840
Top feel.
>>708145572
I think you misunderstood
You are saying he intentionally created something with a flaw?
>>708145553
you said you'd send it on Tuesday or Wednesday
None of us will have these emails for years
>>708145697
Fuck off
>>708145962
Can't tell publicly with noise
Can tell privately one on one while guaranteed anonymity
I am cautious
>>708144746
lay off that weed Jaden Smith
>>708146094
I promise you that I sill send it on Tuesday or Wednesday this week.
I just need to do it far awaw from home
I will drive far away from home Tuesday or Wednesday. Get what I mean?
>>708144952
you're full psycho dude
>>708144971
>he wants/needs more people in his civilization
we could just be their AI program
Assuming there are parallel universes, if god exists in one of them, does he have to exist in all of them?
>>708135538
point is, nobody cares, until they do.
>>708146087
Who says it has a flaw.
It's flawless for thoughts and feelings as a sandbox to play in
By the way free will is the ability to choose on your own which thoughts and feelings you invite to play with you
>>708145231
To anything within the edge of the bubble, it would probably look soup-ish because it seems there would be no way to observe anything either outside or inside of the bubble. Though I doubt anything in this area could observe anything anyway, as it would be extreme energy and mass with anything resembling matter being torn to shreds, possibly all being converted to high energy light, But if it were possible to observe the whole thing from far away, it would be an expanding bubble of light (I know this observation would also not be possible, so is hypothettical.). So at most, I will concede to the universe eventually becoming a "soup bubble"
>>708146324
ok, look forward to discussing with you anon
>>708146131
Believe it or don't couldn't care less
>>708146401
Why not explore all of them he/she/it has an eternity time
Who cares about any of this shit? In the end our time is finite. And when it ends it ends. But time will continue for others. And eventually when the last person that remembers you dies you are truly gone. But even still all of that is insignificant. The universe itself will come to an end as well. Either with the Big Freeze or Big Crunch. Why are we brought into this life? What's the point when it will be gone eventually? Nobody will be around to remember it. It might as well as never happened at all.
Why the fuck do hotdogs come in packages of ten, but hotdog buns come in packages of eight
>>708138034
>Is today the day I kill myself?
probably
>>708146846
Fucking loled
>>708136065
The precious!
ITT some tosser gets a ton of faggots to drop their emails on /b/ and rickrolls them.
>>708145256
Don't understand...A perfect being is not boring...a perfect being is not lazy...a perfect being would have no reason to demonstrate that they are not boring and lazy. This argument makes no sense.
>>708144952
How the fuck did the other guy know
Unless samefag
>>708147110
You'll know soon enough
>>708136219
[email protected]
Why u gotta make me so curious
>>708146449
Pretty much yeah.
>>708146397
Not sure what you are trying to say. If God is already perfect, then he doesn't "need" anything. This point has nothing to do with AI simulations.
>>708135169
Well you evil cunt....It's not okay to kill a spider. Kill humans you faggot.
better than tinder! a lot of horny girls of your city
>>708136219
[email protected]
>>708146896
>>708146896
Welcome number 8
You are added to mmy list
>>708147226
Number 9
Welcome to the list
Tuesday or Wednesday
>>708147484
>>708147484
Number 10
Noted and added
The utter randomness of all 10 of you is outstanding
This is a really really good idea
This way I don chose who knows hence no bias
Alright gotta go
10 email bros will see you on Tuesday or Wednesday
I love you all
Bye
>>708135169
because all so called justice only exist to protect society and killing a spider does not threaten society.
>>708137679
only one way to find out
>>708137862
the only thing you can't be wrong about is that you exist. for all you know you could be slamming your head against the wall all day in an asylum and is even this answer just a part of your made up reality
>>708138243
selfish not fundamentally good or evil
each person does everything he does to become happy the only difference between people is what makes us happy
even if you help a random stranger you only do it because it does not takes you a lot of effort and it might help you in the future
>>708139180
reality is the part of the world that you have accepted to be real if you yourself believe it is real it is part of your reality
or the science answer everything that has mass or execute a force on objects that have mass
>>708139459
because before that you thought about it your body was doing those things on auto pilot and the moment you thought about it, it became something you have control about
>>708147295
>implying "God" is perfect
he made you, didn't he?
>>708147851
Dude just a tip don't let them following and watching you intimidate you.
No matter what they try to make you believe what kind of power they have over you, they don't.
Call them a motherfucker and send them greetings from me
They can't do shit about it whatever it is you know. They are playing with you and are trying to scare you that's all.
Never leave the big picture out of site
>>708135169
why not me?
>>708147851
Finally got up off the sidewalk I see.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_qMagfZtv8
>>708148203
>implying "he made you, didn't he?"
Is this even worth responding to when you're going so far out of your way to miss my point? Probably not but whatev...if I can think of no logical reason God would have needed to create the universe or people, obviously then I don't believe that's what happened.
Hello I am a faggot I love dicks mmmmmm dicks oh boy oh boy where are they I need em now. Do you have em? Oh boy oh boy I head there were some around here I sure am hungry for those dicks look at em all all different sizes shapes and colors oh yeah I sure do need em right fuckin now and if I don't get em I'll probably throw a fit oh yeah in my butt and mouth both ends like a fuckin piggie getting roasted oh man oh man drench me in your yummy yummmy cummies
>>708148177
I know that I don't know everything, and I know that I can't be wrong about that. If I knew everything, I would know that I knew everything. And I don't. So I don't. And I can not be wrong about that. Ipso Fatso.
>>708142090
you can decide whether or not you punch the next person you see but what you do is decided by the personality you are born with and everything you have experienced till that point if i know all that information i can predict what you will do i can however not change that action unless i change your experiences till that point
if you take that idea further and you add the fact that everything outside of lifeforms follows a nature law you could predict the future if you have all the information in the world even till the point of which colour socks the president would wear after 100 days
>>708135169
Whats the goddamn point nigger?
Is there was nothing beyond this life I'm In right now, why am I here, how am I here? What gives me the right to exist more than anything else?
Why does it seem like even if we have learned a thousand times in the past we never learn.
>>708142118
every because at the moment your experiences change your choices will too
depends on which of the possibilities you take in some you would be and in others it would be worse than your live now
yes
no because every person has another understanding of love and only mine i right
because it made our changes of survival bigger so we are the species that survived
Op here.
Thanks for the interesting discussion
Got to go.
See you soon
What is guilt???
>>708149411
Can u stfu already mr im a fuckin prophet i speak in old english and riddles cause im a fuckin wizard i know everything the cia are tryna rape my ass aahhhhhh
>>708149411
>Why does it seem like even if we have learned a thousand times in the past we never learn.
Profound..
>>708139673
Wonder how brainwashed we've become to think that looks good. Liquid that is secreted from the mammary glands of female mammals and left out to turn to mold and wiped on to bread so we can stuff it into our faces.
I see road kill when I walk my pup and and want to vomit. the blood the intestines the brains. And I think how most humans dress up carcauses like that one and put it in their bodies.
Why are a handful of animals tortured and slaughtered for our appetites and the rest protected and loved?
>>708148893
unless if you are wrong about the fact there is more than that what you know
>>708146745
>>708146846
Two kinds of people, folks.
Why don't I just start treating life as a videogame? Why can't I just turn the safeguards off in my brain and literally stop giving a shit about what's acceptable? I feel like I'm being controlled by a higher power that decides what's good for me.
Of course it's simply just the fact that I've been conditioned to think this and that's right and that's wrong, but I hate that all the ideals in my mind aren't truly mine, they've been placed there by society.
>>708149843
the knowledge that you fucked up
>>708150090
>Why are a handful of animals tortured and slaughtered for our appetites and the rest protected and loved?
Animals were useful back in the day, so some became domesticated. We're the inheritors of a culture that found them useful.
>>708135169
will OP ever deliver ?
>>708150014
How am I speaking old English? Sorry for not putting "lol" or replacing "you" with "u" like a fucking a nigger.
>>708150551
nope, that's acknowledgement...
