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Epic game bread

Better then 7, not sorry
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Praise the sun
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did you know that quistis is actually transgender, you can see the bulge outline through her skirt at the beginning of the game when squall first meets her
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Fight me if you don't think this is better than every other sports game
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>>708056156

Dude no lol. Quistis is a babe though
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The best
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>>708055897
8 is so much better than 7. The only thing I disliked about 8 was the fucking GF memory bullshit.
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>>708055996
Where in the hell is lucatiel
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>>708056412
Actually never played.

On my list. Quick synopsis?
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>>708056445
Lol story line was kinda weak, but the battle system/card game/junction system was superior.
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Better than EarthBound imo
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>>708055897
Agreed.
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>>708056210

Someone please make a meme out of elmer fudd bottom right
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Better than 7 and 8.
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>>708056557
spiritual successor to chrono trigger. Dont expect chrono trigger though. Heaps of replayability. Its been like 10 years so I dont remember the story but i enjoyed it more than FFVII and VIII at the time.
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>>708056753

Uhhhhhhhh love this game too. Heart wreching, beautiful game, great characters. Music too...

But I like 8 better. Sorry.
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>>708055897
Heartily agree 8 is best
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King of modern JRPGs
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>>708056842

Haven't played any chrono game so you didn't explain anything to me lol
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>>708056753
Gtfo
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8 made magic nearly useless in battle
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>>708056928
>>708056706
>>708056445


My nigga
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>>708056753
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>>708056753
This. Best FF. Full order is as follows:
1. IX
2. VI
3. VII
4. IV
5. XII
6. XIII
7. VIII
8. X
9. XIII
10. III
11. I
12. II
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>>708057056

Not true. It made you have to plan around your stat buff vs magic usage
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>>708055897
Only better than 7 if you got a boner for graphics. I still mournfully anticipate Aeris' return to deliver all of us from this hell. Plus Zack the mystery man. Its like resident evil's brad. (Who?)
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I liked 7.

8 was dicks.

9 was good too.
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>>708057251

Graphics weren't why.

Battle system/ gameplay
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>>708057199
Correction:
6. V
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Do the Steam versions of 8 and 9 have enough improvements to justify buying over just emulating?
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>>708056753
Plus the AMVs everyone made from it kick ass.
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>>708057331
Get out muh thread
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>>708057199
lol 13 is your number 6. GTFO noob
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>>708057251
Zach was Cloud before they infused he was exposed to Mako.
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>>708057199
You should play ff tactics aswell, it is awesome
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>>708057558
You didn't even play them, did you?
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>>708057382
Magic was crap and I hated the card game/system thing. I bet a lot of people liked it butt fuck me I played a game for the story, right?
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>>708056412
>implying CC is better than CT
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>>708055897

8 > 7

FFT > All
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>>708057199

Have only played 1, 6 - X2, and 13 ...

I'd rate from worst to best: 13, X2, 6, 1, 7, X/9, 8
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>>708057633
I wasn't a fan of tactics, but I respect those who would even go as far as to call it their favorite. I couldn't get through it, so I cannot rank it in good faith.
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>>708057199
1. VII
2. Tactics
3. VIII
4. XII
5. IX
6. VI
7. IX
8. X
9. who cares
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>>708057596
There were two tanks in the lab. Have you played tactics?
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>>708057780

Nigga 8 > tactics
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8 is my favorite proper Final Fantasy, but Lost Odyssey would be if it were made by Square. It was directed by Hironobu Sakaguchi and had music composed by Nobuo Uematsu. It also plays more like a Final Fantasy than anything that's come out since then.
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>>708057558
If you didn't like XIII and hold it in high regard, then you were a bah-bunny, sad that it wasn't like other FFs.
XIII was a great game. XIII-2 was good as well.
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>>708057834
At the very least I think I (numeral one) is worth a playthrough. It takes about 20 hours.
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>>708057834
>IX is on the seventh place
>VI is better than IX

Go die in a fire.
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>>708057834

this...

Except your top 5 are screwy
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Whoops put 2 9's. Replace with IV
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Ff9 was fucking shit it stole the fft skill progression and that's the only good thing about the game, weak ass characters shit ass character art moronic story
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>>708057978
I disagree. XIII was a great movie, not a game.
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>>708057951
Will have to try. PlayStation?
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>>708057780

Tactics will always be best final Fantasy.
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This!

>>708055897
It's better than 7 and 9... but Squall is beta as fuck!

>>708056156
And yes! Yamazaki (Final Fantasy creator) confirms this!
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>>708057881
You raise a valid point. To answer your question, I played about 3 hours and didn't like it. It's just not my style.
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>>708058060
Its too hard to rank them all. All are must plays for me
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>>708057978

Dude it took a third of the game to stop running in a straight line
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>>708058138
It was exclusive to Xbox 360, which is why nobody played it.
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>>708058097
>stole from another Square game
>stole

Retard detected. Also Zidane was better than Cloud and Squall together.
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>>708058097

Fuck you
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>>708058282
Tu quoque faggot
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>>708055897
Personally, I consider XII to be the hidden gem. I speak partly from my own experience, as it took over 5 year for me to complete it. And I bought it on launch day.
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>>708058178
VP was good right before the A ending - but then it was amazing. The A ending itself was meh.
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>>708057596
No, Zack had what it took to be a SOLDIER first-class, Cloud didn't.
Both of them had the "mako eyes"
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>>708058178

Squall was whiny no lie.

And well fuck I thought a dickchick was hot since middle school fuk
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>>708058456
It sounds like you might be right. I stand corrected.
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Are you faggots stuck on the FF train? Let's get some others here!
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>>708058401
Never played ... Heard its too long lol

I'm a completonist so the shorter games still took me over 100+ hrs
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>>708057978
XIII-2 was shit, at least XIII was moderately enjoyable
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>>708058479
He wasn't really whiny. He just didn't want to be bothered with anything.

I gotta know because I am the same. That's also why I generally cut FF8 more slack.
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>>708058559
>Gothic 1 > Gothic 2 + NOTR
But it was still good
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>>708057996
Its alright, the battles are too constant though.
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Dimension door everything
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>>708058192
The gameplay wasn't anything really. It was like how they water down FPS games. But it exposed snippets of cloud's early life that were only hinted at in 7. Worth it for the fans very much.
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>>708055897
Im with you on this, always thought 8 was better
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>>708058729
Was that the one that was originally made for the Super Famicom and then ported to a more modern system? Because I played the SNES one and Second Story, but not the more modern ones.
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>>708058729
How was this? Never played it
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>>708058594
I am in no way a completionist so when I spend 50+ of a first FF playthrough it means something. I spent 55 hours on my first VIII and approximately 80 hours on XIII. Those are the only two that cracked 50.
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>>708058816
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>>708058456
My nigga.
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>>708058903

Don't know only SO I played. Ps2.

Damn good story/game. Fun characters and worlds.... Great overall
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>>708058912
Refer to
>>708059060
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>>708058704
It's nothing special, but it exposes you to good motifs the rat tail, and so forth.
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>>708056953
>>708056953
>>708056953
>>708056953
>>708056953
>>708056953
Mother FUCKING yes! If you faggots haven't played this you faggots haven't played this, insert witty racist comment here, yea you..
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Why hasn't this been posted?
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Anyone else still waiting for a revamp or possible prequel?
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>>708059281
Is it really worth to get Dolphin running for this?
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>>708059334
Nice
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>>708059334
First golden sun is best
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>>708059334
Because the gameplay is as repetitive as in Rudra no hiho.
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>>708059334
That whole line was phenomenal.
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>>708059400
Dude yes!
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>>708056557
The game of a million playable characters! Many of them mutually exclusive in a single play through.

One major failure was that, very few characters actually have combined attacks with other character, most of them, iirc don't have any combined attacks.
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>>708058804
Zombies? No FUCKING DINOSAURS...DINOSAURS FUCKER YOU ARE GOING TO PAUSE/TURN OFF THIS GAME LIKE 8 TIMES IN FIVE MINUTES.

Christ this game ruined my adrenal glands. Worse than clock tower even. Don't even get me started on t Rex. Also the puzzles made way more sense in an industrial setting.
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Hours and hours trying to make decent fucking advanced replays
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>>708059619
Still, it was a decent game, it deserves a play through, I won't argue that.
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>>708055897 get on my level
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>>708059598
I am asking because I played Xenogears, and god, didn't I care for that game. Aside from first get this fucker running at all ...
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>>708059647

Such a fun game. And that redheads ass did wonders for middle school

Easily made me paranoid about turning corners blind
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>>708059378
Never gonna happen. Which is kinda sad, I liked the game.
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>>708059862

Best game.... So fun. Amazing story.

I would KILL for a new gen reboot or prequel of the dragon wars
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>>708059754
Ugh, Grandia was painful.
>MC dumb as fuck kid with no character growth
>all the other characters nearly equally dumb
>only good thing was the gameplay

And the same retard who wrote Justin then was left out of the cupboard to write the second half of Ryudo's character arc in Grandia 2. Least that's how it felt to me.
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>>708059378
I'm playing through this again right now actually. Sorry though, series is never gonna be continued.

This is an underrated gem though.
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>>708055897
>>708056445
>>708056649
Final Fantasy 8 was an absolute fucking abortion all around. I started that series with the original on NES and was a total fanboy all through the series up to that point so believe me when I say it wasn't for lack of trying that I couldn't find anything to like about 8. I liked both 7 and 9 better but the best ones were 4, 6, and Tactics.
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>>708059791
If I am ever an engineer, all ventilation shafts will have wrought iron bars every five feet or so. Everywhere. Space, the office, Jurassic park. Everywhere.
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>>708060079
The Breath of Fire series was destroyed for me with BoF 2. I have never seen such a grindy piece of shit.
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>>708060213
So skip it and play the others. You're doing yourself a disservice here.
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>>708060295
You mean I don't have to play it in order to understand its story? Just like with FF?
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>>708060443
Not at all. I mean, there's the vaguest of hints of a connection in the lore, but you're not missing out on anything. They're essentially standalone games.
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>>708060101

Nigga I still imagine Dino's coming out the bushes at night and I'm 27
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Would give my left nut to play this game again
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too lazy to get pics

Planescape: Torment
Giants: Citizen kabuto
Anachronox
Freedom Fighters
Clive Barkers Undying

all underappreciated, quality games.
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Will you faggots get off your old school shit train. Here is the grail of the most recent rpgs prove me wrong.
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>>708060085

Eh to each his own. 7 & 9 are both amazing as well
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>finally get cure3
>meet Yuffie
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These games.
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>>708056753
Best ff. IX is great but VIII is a hot pile of Floridian garbage.
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>>708060213
Most gindy game ever would be demon souls
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>>708055897
8 was terrible, way too easy, just draw and hello broken system.
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>>708060729
>implying there isn't Dolphin
>implying there isn't emuparadise dot me

You can thank me by sacrificing your left nut.
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>>708060820
Southern confort was a train wreck that should have never been invented
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>>708060767
A game in which I have to install mods to make it enjoyable is a bad game.
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>>708060767
I'm sorry you're too young to have experienced these games anon, truly.

I play the shit out of some modded Skyrim though, I will give you that. I'm looking forward to actually playing it on an engine that can handle it now.
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>>708060953
Mixes well with coke for a night cap though.
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>>708060901
>confusing hard with grind
BOF 2 was expected to be grinded. Demon Souls is just hard.
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>>708060924
I run Windows 98, thanks tho
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>tfw using knights of the realm
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Best game I've ever played
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>>708061186
Tru
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>>708061024
Yeah, but you can make it immeasurably more enjoyable though. It's worth it for me.
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>>708061179
>Windows 98
Nigger what?
If its about money just get Linux running. On my box it has better performance than Windows anyways.
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>>708061136

Demon souls you NEED to level up to even handle new areas.
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>>708061281
I didn't have to install mods to enjoy Oblivion. Sorry, I'll just stick with Oblivion.
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>>708061346
>has never seen speedruns of Demon Souls
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>>708055897
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>>708060861
XII is great! Love the Saint Seiya's style!
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>>708057942
1 dick > 8 > 2 dicks

That's about it really
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>>708060767
You missed out on kind of a golden era of gaming. I played from monopoly to dead space. Trust me I wish it weren't so also.
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>>708061024
>>708061031
>>708061056
But as soon as S.T.E.P is installed lol what is it at now 100+ mods lmao so worth it BTW if you guys don't know about it please look into it you won't be disappointed
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>>708055897
I love you op, i was just discussing how amazing FF8 was like 2 days ago. Way fucking better than FF9 IMO, though 9 was good.
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>>708060079
This is a good game. It's a shame that is has to live in the shadow of FF, but it's worth a playthrough as well. IV is also good, maybe even better.
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Anyone remember Jampack'd demos for the PS1? Holy fuck those were great
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>>708061649
Remember when Square and Enix were still separate entities? Good old times. Good old games.
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>>708061678

<3
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Wishing more love for LoD

We need an update or prequel!
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>>708061671
>gamerkiddie detected
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>>708060085
This is a reasonable opinion from the perspective of your own experience. But for the franchise to thrive (which I agree it does no longer) it has to adapt. VIII was a good next step when it came out, but I think we all know the glory days have passed.
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>>708061737
Yes they were my friend had a membership to PS because his dad was loaded and fuck. Some of those you hardly needed to get the full GAME. Most were even multiplayer. They sure let the bottom drain on that one.
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>>708060861
There is a good argument to be made here.
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>>708055897
Where's your movie, spinoff and remake?

Deal with it nerd.
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>>708061851
LoD <=> Legend of Dragoon?
I agree, a prequel is absolutely needed. I felt so sorry when the party met the ghosts of the previous generation of dragoons.
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>>708058923
So, you spent about 30 playing 8 and the rest of the time tapping square to a long as fuck 240p video..
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>>708059378
>>708061851

>>708061777
Holy trips of love for LoD and FF8
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The game is afoot!

The game...is, a foot?
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>>708061940

This. 15 might save it though.
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>>708056753
I hated that you got abilities from weapons in FF9. It meant that if you wanted a sweet skill you had to keep using a shit weapon until you learned whatever the fucking skill was that you wanted.

That was a complete departure from the rest of the FF series, upgrading weapons at the next town you arrived at was a game staple since FF2.

Otherwise 9 was good, though I could never tell if Kuja was a man or woman.
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>>708055897
You, sir, are wrong. You are a bad person and you should feel bad.
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>>708062012

Sorry. I said it was a better game - not had a bigger fanboy base
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>>708062012
Advent Children ftw.
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>>708062175
Man, definitely. He is [spoiler]Zidane's brother, after all[/spoiler].
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>>708062021

Fuck yes. Such great story telling and graphics (cutscenes..) were AMAZING for the time

>>708062046
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>>708061868
I'm 30 I played all these games you are all discussing but it is just a "poke the dead horse with a stick again" discussion I'm over it.
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fite me
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>>708061777
<3<3<3 3======D
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>>708062215
>better game
>less fans
>you don't even know about it, it's so great

?
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>>708062215
Then why is your shitty game not loved?

Better? No, anon... You love it. Not everyone else.
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>>708062175

Eh it was OK because it made you hunt for the items
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>>708062269
MM died with the NES.

MMX died with the SNES. I am a fucking master in MMX1-3, but in MMX4 and onwards I just fucking suck.
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It may had furries but it's still an amazing game.
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>>708062392
I did, and I won.
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>>708062187

Well that's just like your opinion man
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We all know Skyrim is the best game ever made. Deal with it Dark Souls faggots. The souls games are just masochistic garbage with shit game design and are good for nothing more than promoting autism. If you play that drivel you aren't a gamer, you're fucking cancer.
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>>708056496
Is on the second game
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>>708062371
>i'm 30
Doesn't change the fact you are a gamerkiddie
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>>708056210
i play this game once in a while and still better than nba 2k16
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>>708062368
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>>708062392
KOTOR 2 was better.
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>>708062422
.dubs of love
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>>708057331
same
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>>708062305
Why did i find Kuja so attractive then?
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>>708062508
Looks autistic. Do you like that one where the Japanese wolf runs around and draws shit? Dust is also kinda fun.
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>>708062557
Fuckoffff normie
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>>708062540
No, it's a certified fact. FFVII is the best FF game ever made, as certified by every single non autist gamer on Earth. Also, the Zelda games are overrated garbage. Deal with it.
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>>708060085
no your wrong
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>>708062739

Butthurt fanboy detected
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>>708062731
You fuck off you trap loving autist. No self respecting gamer would touch the souls games with a rented cock.
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You all lose
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>>708062597
OMG MY NOSTALGIA ERECTION IS TOO INTENSE RIGHT NOW.

Did anyone here actually kill all the dragon shadow thingies in the collosseum towards the end of the game?
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>>708062739
>Zelda
>garbage

Opinion discarded with gusto. Kek.
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>>708062672
Because he was originally meant to be female - and then they changed it.

Just like Marluxia in Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories. They didn't want to have two traitor women in the Organization (Japanese are sometimes dumb as fuck, but whatever). Probably with Jenova in FF7 and Ultimecia in FF8 they though another female villain was too much.
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>>708062864
More overrated shit tier faggotry
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>>708062572
What's your definition of a gamer then sensi
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>>708055897
Yeah because having to fucking farm your mana is an amazing idea. This game is a broken, chaotic mistake.
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>>708062901
Found the weab nintendo cuck fanboy.
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>>708062947
Have you actually played it?
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Anyone else play this game? I fucking loved it
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>>708062864
Pretty good as far as fan service, but it's a pretty cruise control game as far as gameplay is concerned.
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>>708062168
I'm hoping it does, but I admit I'm pessimistic. I think the problem with realism is that it prohibits imagination. I mean, it's in the name, "final fantasy." We need a different creative direction. That's what made IX so special.
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>>708056753
No arguments here.
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>>708062868

So hard....

One of the most annoying bosses in all gaming
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>>708062944
Thank you for rationalizing my homosexual erections into completely heterosexual erections.
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>>708063033
No, because I don't play shit tier garbage.
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>>708062707
You mean Okami? Then yes I like that game.
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>>708063009
Found the faggot.
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>>708063083
I loved this game too, even though III was my favorite.
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>>708062864
I heard MM3 was a piece of dog shite that any self-respecting gamer wouldn't touch even with their foot covered in a marching boot.

And MM1 was so boring I didn't even finish playing. MM2 was supposed to be good, but since I never played it this is some second-hand information.

>>708062739
I have my share of rubbish for tonight with your post.
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I'm one of the writers of this game. Believe me, it will be the best FF ever!
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I'm so sad that it's over.
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>>708063166
Why is it bad?
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>>708063105
is....is that.....is that a mobile version?

I dont even remember that giant slimy dick shaped monster your fighting. Probably because i fucking destroyed that shit.
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>>708063094

Yea and I'm scared the ff7 remake will be shit in terms of staying true to the old one. Will obviously sell like crazy though
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>>708062864
As a trilogy, I love Mass Effect and it it's definitely one of my favorite series. Individually, though, each game has some pretty serious flaws.
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>>708057596
lolwut. pretty sure 4chan is 18 and up. go to bed kiddo.
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Faggots haven't played a real rpg
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>>708063217
I loved III as well, but do we both agree that II sucked?
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>>708062968
Someone who has a fucking brain and still enjoys games. You are lacking the brain part, as shown simply by the way you structure your posts.
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>>708062987
And it's still the best and most loved... numbers don't lie.

But keep living in your fantasy world where you're wrong.
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This was the best final fantasy.
Not 7
Not 9
Even slightly better than chrono trigger which is sitting solid at #2
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>>708063393
this
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>>708063277
You have to put your time (and money somewhat) into the game and then it gets pretty lively. For people who like books but would rather play a game.
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>>708063371

No lol just shitty screenshot. And its like the first boss. Was just never prepared each play through lol
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>>708063380
I'm actually pretty happy with how it looks, but it won't save the franchise by itself.
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>>708063371
First boss.
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>>708058401
THIS POST
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Im out, this thread is full of fanboy cucks. Im gonna go hit up a GOOD GAME maybe Resident Evil 2 or Manhunt. Possibly some Oblivion. Fuck off you cucks. Also, vote Hillary.
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>>708063529
Absolutely #1 and #2 for me as well. I think Secret of Mana is probably #3.
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Most of you probably wouldn't consider this a good game but i like it enough to post the associated image
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>>708060861
You posted it before I could. kudos anon.
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>>708063529
FF6 had a shit-tier translation and a mediocre setting. But good characters and gameplay and a damn good story.

Still on the second place for me. IX is on the top.
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>>708063711
And nothing of value was lost. Vote trump.
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Rengeki motherfuckers!
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>>708062269
okay im gonna be a dick here, but Legends 2 was way better than 1.
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I feel beta as fuck but I love this game!
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>>708063840
Addendum:

Shit-tier is exaggerated. But it was still lacking considerably. The entire WOR was cramped down because the translator ran out of ROM space because Squaresoft didn't want to pay for 3 MBit cartridges instead of the 2.4 MBit ones they used for the Japanese version.
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Everyone thanks for the thread.

Never really had one pick up in my 9yrs on /b/

Bumping for game I always loved
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>>708064103
Pretty solid game
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>>708063277
First of all, it's ME not MM.

ME3 was great, and actually my favorite of the series. The ending was terrible, but it shouldn't have overshadowed the rest of the game, like it did.

ME1 did have a really slow first half, but if you make it through, the second half and rest of the series are definitely worth it.

ME2 is widely considered the best of the three, even though I think it was kind of shallow. The story was weak and it lacked the customization you really want, but it's still great.

I won't say Mass Effect is for everyone, but it's a great series.
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>>708063882
Could never beat this
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>>708063855
>vote trump
And this is why we can't have nice things. Morons like you. Please, kys.
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>>708064300
vote trump
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Golden Sun 1 and 2
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>>708064203
I have tried for years to beat that game and have never accomplished to do so. Love/hate that game.
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>>708063975
Haven't finished legends2, so I won't disagree
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>>708064238
I played after the extended cut was released and i was satisfied with my ending what were the original endings?
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>>708064238
The ending rocks your cock if you unlock everything.

ME1 was the most story driven/introduction

ME2 - Can't even dignify that with a response.
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Yall niggas don't even know
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>>708063755
That was the game I always meant to play but never got around to it.
Glad someone else in this thread has some taste
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>>708064749
THIS GUY
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Wtf how has no one posted
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>>708064553
If you run the game casually its a generic ending with different colorshades to set the mood.
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>>708064749
It was great in the day.... it sucks now :(
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>>708064895
Guess why. One tip: this thread is about EPIC games.
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>>708055897
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>>708064918
So the endings didn't show the results of your choices?
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>>708064895
I don't even hate this game.... it has to be okay to have that much hype.

Just bad players.
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>>708055897
I would have agreed with you if you would have spelled "than" correctly
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Did anyone play the adventures of bayou billy JUST for the jeep driving game?
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>>708056753
I grew up with VIII and loved it to death, but yes, IX is the objectively superior title by far. Honestly not confident I would have appreciated it if I would have played it when I was younger because I was such an edgelord. I can just feel that Square was damn proud they made this baby, clearly Uematsu's peak performance as well.
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>>708065120

Fuck I didn't even notice. Sorry I'm just tired and high>>708065120
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Everyone played this but it was fucking great. Still even better than call of duty and similar games

Best movie-to-game there's ever been
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>>708065102
The cliffnotes. It was a designed DLC game. Probably the only one of its class that has or ever will have success with that tactic.
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>>708055897
.
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>>708065180

I guess I'll halfway agree. IX's ending is probably one of the best in the series. And the story is great... But I just love how you have to be more tactical and farm more for 8
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>>708065216
lol i'm not too mad about it broski. i do agree that 8 is overall a more original and compelling game THAN 7, but if i actually had to say which one is the more epic and memorable game, flip a coin
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>>708065180
His peak performance was during FFIV - VI, and I don't even like FFIV.

But IX was definitely a "Back to the roots" game with modern conveniences.
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>>708064870
Secret of Evermore was great as well. Loved the alchemy system, and the dog.
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>>708057834
Ah yes. I too think 9 is better than 9. Idiot.
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