so /b/ what happens after you die?
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so /b/ what happens after you die?
>>707812756
one way ticket to meme land
Other than being religious.
I've always thought that right before the moment of death, your consciousness recedes into your subconscious, entering a forever dream comatose state. that lasts for what would seem like an eternity.
>>707812756
The world keeps going because you are literally insignificant.
Who knows.
dwdwddw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIyMXajbpZg
>>707812756
It's like tripping on dmt
You're reincarnated into the type of person you hate the most.
The bugs eat you
Someone else scores a lot of porn and a gently used Fleshlight
>>707812756
You go to heaven
>>707813626 looks like i'm gonna be a nigger in my next life
Someone will inherit this ancient gem
What in the world is that thing?
>>707813746
And this one.
>>707812756
What happens to who and/or to what?
>>707812756
The police find my whole family dead and report it as a murder-suicide?
>>707814019
It's a finger box, idiot
>>707814019
It's a fingerbox. You put something interesting inside and let people touch it. I suggest scorpions.
Could one put razor blades inside a fingerbox?
You feel like you're falling until you hit the ground and wake surrounded by or experiencing your worst fear. If you escape you are reincarnated
>>707812756
You ( the individual conciousness that consits of brainchemistry and electric impulses) stop existing. No heaven, no hell, just eternal peace.
Could be worse right?
>>707814524
That's the magic of a fingerbox, it could be anything.
>>707814630
I mean, doesn't that terrify you? Simply not existing at all anymore?
I enjoy the excitement of inserting digits into random holes
>>707814265
Who the fuvk puts shit in his fingerbox? That's not how it's supposed to work.
>>707814781
"Supposed to" is for children.
Having fun at the fingerbox factory
>>707814868
Is this true? CDC has most common causes of death as mostly forseeable (cancer, etc.).
>>707813284
What about someone like JFK? Brain blasted without a moment's notice.
The brain would stop functioning long before it would be able to deduce it was being destroyed.
What then, sir?
Well.. you're matter until you're multiplied by the speed of light squared, and then you're energy. So you're potentially energy all the time if you put it in terms of universal expansion. The universe expands at about 69 kilometers a second per megaparsec (a parsec is about 3.4 or so million lightyears and a lightyear is a distance that takes a year for light to travel) which is way the fuck faster than the speed of light and the only thing that can travel at the speed of light as dark matter makes the universe ever increasing in speed with expansion until it eventually collapses on itself and starts a new cycle of faggotry. With out going into a 15k word essay that 98% of you won't understand, we are currently moving faster than the speed of light as per our placement in the universe. Now what does that mean? It means that we're literally energy and don't go anywhere, our consciousness is energy which means that it has to go SOMEWHERE when we die. It doesn't just cease to exist, something has to harness it, it has to go somewhere.
Think of it in terms of dicks going in your butt, OP. You can chop the cock off of the guy fucking you but his dick/cum will still be in your asshole. You can shit out the cum and dick, sure. But the cum and dick have to go somewhere. Basically as we go along with the universe we're in a constant state of motion, baby. We interstellar as fuck until we hit different dimensions. The real question is...
>Where does our energy go?
And it has to go somewhere, whether you're atheist or theist, your energy goes somewhere it does not just "rot in the ground" as they say.
Here's a crudely drawn picture, the first line is us on the universe, the second line is us still on the line but moving a long with the universe. Unless you're at a central point (we aren't) that doesn't move, then we are in constant motion.
>>707814711
No. You wont care once it happens.
I'm just terrifyed by human ignorance and how many ppl choose an obvious lie over the truth. Wish-thinking never got anyone anywhere.
>>707815599
Exactly why murder is so fucked up, thats what. just nothing then.
If God cares about us, we have eternal consciousness.
If it doesn't we just end up not being conscious anymore.
thats it.
>>707814711
It is very easy to get rid of this fear:
Live your life and enjoy it, instead of thinking about possibilities you will never know for sure until it's too late.
Even if you knew, what are you going to do about it?
I prefer believing to be either nonexistent after death (no problems, yay) or reincarnated without knowledge of my past life.
If you really cease to exist (no body, no soul) you will just not be anymore.
TL;DR love life, stop thinking about death, you will die anyway
>>707814630
I could not have said it better myself, /b/ro. We are just matter and energy. We are the universe observing itself.
>>707813284
>implying your body supplies your brain after death
>implying conciousness is something magical that can exist without a brain to host it
Man this is so fucking retarded...
Are you all 12yo or how fo you come up wirh that bs?
>>707815655
That's... Actually the best response I've seen in one of these threads.
>>707816046
You're a nigger, sir.
A dirty nigger.
>>707815985
Matter and energy cannot be created nor destroyed.
>>707815655
As this gent stated
>>707816270
look at the coon calling the nigger black
>>707816232
Just a drunk theoretical physicist here to "shed some light" no pun intended on a few things.
>>707815655
/thread
htis was the best response here
>>707815655
Dude even if we take your retarded thesis serously and assume we are all energy, our conciousness is energy and matter doesnt exist, yo should be realizing that our conciousness would still stop existing causeit would get merged, mixed and devided with other other energy from different sauces. I'd really like to read that essay... would be a nice meme for ppl who actually konw something about physics, you esoteric retard.
>>707816365
And our being, our consciousness is a production of carefully arranged and distributed matter and energy. Once our body ceases to produce the consciousness the consciousness ceases to exist. Straight and simple, /b/rother
>>707816523
Too bad half of the people in this thread came here to post some type of philosophical existential bullshit quote they didn't even think of or know anything about and leave. They probs won't read it lmao.
>>707816365
You can create matter.
>>707816365
>matter cant be destroyed or created.
You should smoke less weed before science classed hahaha
>>707816046
We only know from brain imaging that brain activity 'corrisponds' to concious thought. You can't say with certainty that brain activity is consciousness, it would just appear that way.
>>707816688
Yeah. Ppl denying facts because they dont like them and come up with bs should be fucking gassed to save upcoming generations from that shit.
You listen to this shit on repeat forever. >>707812756
>>707816643
I'm not going to say I disagree with you as much as you are just flat out wrong. Very smooth insult at the end. Your consciousness isn't matter. You don't have to assume your consciousness is energy because if you'd simply do any research on the subject at all what so ever even scratch the surface you'd realize that everything I say is falling on deaf ears of a complete imbecile who can probably hardly do basic mathematics and got a D in chemistry in high school.
>>707816701
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_of_mass
No.
>>707817027
>>707812756
*With really shitty bass.
>>707817027
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anxbRmpZbus
This song to be exact
>>707812756
Same thing as the memory you have of before birth, literally nothing.
Until somehow you become you again like you have before from nothing.
>>707817027
>>707817144
You evil mother fuckers
>>707816046
nah genius the idea is that if you die in a fashion that doesnt destroy your brain your brain is flooded with a chemical. that chemical is the same one that causes dreams, and since your sense of time in dreams is horribly screwed you will feel like you live an arbitrarily long time in the last several minutes of your brains functioning
>>707817038
I'm pretty sure he's referring to the phenomenon where matter can be converted to energy and vice versa
>>707817277
Fair point
Fair point
Nothing. Most people are afraid of death, so they try to grasp at ways to comfort themselves from the idea of eternal rest i.e. religion. This is how most religion is spread, people can comfort each other with similar ideas of the after life. Its also was/is an easy way to control people.
>>707812756
Same thing that happened in the time before you were alive.
>>707817038
I like how these feebs can't keep up with you lmao. Your dick in the butt analogy is what sold me.
>>707817459
yeah, but beyond that, is there no reason to think consciousness escapes physical death? you dont believe in any kind of salvation?
>>707812756
A lot. You just arent around to experience it anymore.
>>707815655
>can't understand
You're right that most probably won't, but you underestimate the value of several minds together
So try us
>>707814781
He's trolling. Don't actually put anything in your fingerbox, or expect a nasty surprise next time you use it.
>>707816998
What is consciousness then
There's a lot of stories from people who died, they say they float out of their bodies and go to a paradise where they are welcomed by their family. Some even say they see Jesus. Some say they go to hell.
Matter can't be created or destroyed. Given time being a factor, surely there was something before matter. Given the laws of matter, it only makes sense that a divine being created it all. Something we simply can't imagine.
Then you gotta think about ghosts and shit. This is controversial, but if you believe in ghosts/demons, you have to think why are they there? How do they exist? If they exist, does that mean there are human souls who experience a different world when they die?
I'm not saying Christianity is right, but I'm not saying it's wrong either. It's what I believe in, and you can believe whatever you want. But it is very possible that a divine being has created everything that we know of, and when we die, we enter another world. Maybe a world we can't fathom. Maybe it's a whole new life, a whole new adventure. Or maybe it's peaceful sleep.
>>707816771
You should read what you have typed before you post
>>707812756
Logical answer: We don't know
Probable answer: nothing, you're dead
/thread
>>707812756
first, you fade into blackness or whiteness depending on basically how you truly judge yourself.. any guilt, regrets.. so on.. after a time when you are sated beating yourself up or gifting yourself you then wander this world until your chi runs out over time.. hence ghosts and whatnot, then it is a mystery sir.. some say you dissipate, your essence is scattered across all of existence.. you are there.. but this mind that is you now.. ceases to exist... I feel this to be accurate, but also miserable and the worst fate ever.. I do not want to lose myself and it is the most miserable thing I can think of.. they say the only way out is to achieve what ancients called "immortality" godspeed anon.
>>707817277
Right, but the cocktail of dimethyltryptomine, serotonin, dopamine, and the myriad of lysergic acids that flood your brain upon death only last about 10 minutes. After that the energy that makes up your consciousness goes SOMEWHERE.
>>707817544
It's 4chan I might as well put some cocks in it.
>>707812756
>ITT: atheists claim Nothing and feel like their opinion is more valid than spiritualfags who say reincarnation or another afterlife
>>707813648
>gently used
>>707817586
There is no salvation. We are meat until we rot into nothingness.
>>707812756
you realize your suffering did not end and that you have made a terrible decision of which there is no redemption.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kwrqUN4g98
>>707813626
Fuckig sjws always winning
>>707816998
Yeah and which reason would i have to assume it's different? Ever heard of oakhams razor?
>>707817038
>mfw i take two photons and create an electron–positron pair
>>707817894
remind me to avoid inviting you over for drinks.
>>707815655
that energy isnt conscious when youre dead.
>>707812756
Next level!
>>707817850
>energy goes somewhere
Heat, fuel for bacteria, etc
>>707815655
what about entropy
I find it remarkably wondrous.
The conscious mind trying to grasp the concept of non existence is baffling. No matter how hard we try no one will know what its feels like to have your consciousness fade to nothingness. What happens to your thoughts and memories? There is no feeling to compare it to. And even with words its hard to convey the weight of this concept. I feel like this is one of the many reasons religion was invented. Its an easy solution to the terrifying feeling of impending non-existence. It may put some people at ease, but i for one am not in the slightest scared of this concept. I can't wait to experience the last sensation of sensations, or lack there of.
>>707812756
your body begins to decay and then other organisms absorb that energy
unless you are cremated, in which case that energy is wasted and a lot of it leaves the atmosphere or something
>>707817894
CRAWLING IN MY SKIN
THESE WOUNDS WILL NOT HEAL
>>707817277
Do you really think you inject chemicals into a death brain and it starts dreaming? Dont you think you in order to dream or even do anything a brain needs power?
>>707812756
You get reincarnated as another person anon.
You
Are
Everyone
That
Has
Ever
Lived
And
Died
We
Are
You
>>707817643
https://syncandshare.lrz.de/dl/fi2eqRfF9NJUURYjMHbx9s7U/2.7_Nemevsek.pdf
Have at it, friend.
You can easily find information on universal expansion, dark matter and entropy dilution is a bit complicated but totally able to be absorbed.
>>707818032
Sorry. I just refuse to believe anything unless there is evidence that supports it. Faith has no value to me.
>>707818299
i completely understand your perspective.
it's a sad one, but it may be true.
>>707817822
We're probably just the testing grounds for their new ai program though
They wouldn't want sociopaths mopping their floors, would they?
>>707817745
Energy. It's been stated by the physicist lurking in here, and some other anons multiple times fucking google it.
>>707817822
Those people never died. Their vitals were just too faint.
Once your dead, you're dead. There is a good reason you dont see people coming out of their graves.
Well assuming current science is absolutely cut and dry truth, your molecules all come apart and contribute to whatever is around them, along with plenty of potential energy being released as this happens.
Now, assuming there is some kind of soul that we can't perceive as human beings with a LIMITED PERCEPTION as so many people choose to ignore, we may have some kind of spiritual being that goes somewhere else or whatever.
Either way all religions are false because humans corrupt everything they touch so you might as well just live your life and see what happens faggot.
>>707818194
Yeah. Not believing in delusional fairy tales makes me a teenage edge lord, right?
>>707817277
i think you'd be hard pressed to find such a chemical that exists purely because it's easy to prove that it does and if it did exist why aren't we making it into a drug.
>>707818572
It's called DMT you fucking idiot look it up
There's a reason only 18+ is supposed to be here you newfag
we return to a more concentrated thread of existence outside of the physical.
we have a name that is not the one mommy gave us.
we go to a place that does not have coordinates.
i've seen the doorway.
>>707818502
FEAR IS HOW I FALL
CONFUSING WHAT IS REAL
Conservation of energy and 2nd law of thermodynamics my friend
>>707818477
>all religions are false because corruption
Have you studied all religions? :-)
>>707818677
No, but it's fairly easy to see that people will quickly corrupt everything they touch in the name of power, and almost every religion has a way of forcing people into a system regardless of whether they want to or not which reeks of power seeking people thousands of years ago being niggers
Please fuck off now
>>707818295
I looked through it and I don't understand any of it.
>>707812756
You experience the dankest of memes...forever.
>>707818641
I really really hope death is nothing near like DMT is. That was the worst and scariest time of my life.
>>707818408
You gave away how little you know by having such a simple answer to something not fully understood by the greatest minds in the world
>>707818900
Well you're a fucking fag then because DMT by its nature is supposed to make you feel incredibly happy and loved and at peace
And DMT does get excessively released as you die hence the "I saw Jesus" or "my family" or "saw my whole life" type bullshit
>>707818656
>>707818900
it is.
and it is not of life.
so it is ok.
>>707812756
literally nothing.
I died 4 times on the weekend and nothing happened
>>707818641
you are aware that dmt is not produced in the brain you fucking oaf?
>>707818237
But that's just a theory
>>707818237
>>707819177
A L I F E T H E O R Y
>>707819008
He is retarded
Consciousness most accurately described by science is chemical signals that communicate something
It's more complex in people because there's a fucking ton of chemical signals communicating information constantly
But, is there a spirit that controls this? Possibly, it's impossible to prove because if it exists we can't perceive it in any way shape or form
>>707819177
>>707819219
the egg boys
>>707819050
It's simply the fact you're so sure about something we don't know everything about leads me to believe that you really don't know what you're talking about
>>707819156
You are aware that you are mentally retarded and a simple google search would prove you to be
Why the ad hominem arguments rather than an actual logical argument
Fucking degenerate nigger
>>707815655
>we are currently moving faster than the speed of light
No the fuck we aren't, the matter that constitutes our body, planet, solar system, and so forth, would be ripped to shreds if it were even traveling at a fraction of the speed of light. And no, 2 bodies moving away from each other at 50% the speed of light doesn't mean they're moving at the speed of light "relative to each other" because if you have any clue about the physics and relativity you know exactly what a crock of shit that is.
>>707812756
a bunch of stuff
>>707819156
It's produced from the pineal gland. Inside the brain. You. Fucking. Oaf.
>>707819407
dmt in the brain is merely a speculation that hasn't been proven and unlike you, i don't speculate when i say that you're a completely uneducated shitlord
>>707819156
If is, they just aren't sure where in the brain it's getting produced. The pineal gland is simply our best guess at the moment of where it might be getting produced.
you chill with hitler, mohammed ali and elliot rodger in the 4th dimension
>>707819543
"allegedly"
hasn't been proven yet retard.
go worship god or something else that has no actual proof because clearly you're not looking for it.
>>707819588
It* not if.
>>707819588
It's more of a theory that it's being produced at all. But yeah, it's most likely going to be located in the pineal gland if anywhere.
>>707819244
There was a recent study by a neuroscientist with interest in astrophysics that minds are simply the receptors of some sort of inter-dimensional "wave"
>>707818445
It helps when you bury them 6 feet deep with a granite vault covering the casket
>>707819767
*more of a theory that i's being produced at all within the BRAIN
>>707813919
I like that model. Mine has slots
>>707819663
>>707819663
There's as much proof for God as there is against God.
Don't forget the favorite theory of atheists (the big bang theory) is just that: a theory.
>>707819657
why put elliot rodger in there? that faggot isn't worthy of those other folks.
>>707820106
What the fuck did you just say about elliot rodger
>>707820055
It's also the only theory that really has any supporting evidence, given the movements of the galaxies and stuff within the universe.
So yeah its still a theory, but you know what else is just a theory? Gravity. Go jump off a building if you can't comprehend the notion that a scientific theory is vastly different from the 'theories' you came up with in school.
>>707815655
I would like to speak to you further. Email me heynow2314gmail
>>707812756
Anubis takes you to the Hall of Judgment. Osiris weighs your heart against the Feather of Ma-at. If it's heavier, or lighter than the feather of truth, you are devoured by Ammit. But if you pass muster, you may enter the Great Field of Reeds.
Well ya see, all those ancient Greek philosophers were right. You die, and you're surrounded by all the people who ever died, and you're free to debate and discuss ideas with them.
Only, they've already debated all the smart shit into the ground. They've been there thousands of years, after all. By now, it's just SJWs screaming and bitching out Socrates because he immediately told them all that white privilege isn't a thing.
Sorry for the long post.
I hope for cool things because I still want spirituality and the soul. I don't want a really boring Atheist universe.
I can tell you what I hope happens but not what will happen because we all really don't know. None of us really know that much about it.
Hopefully we will live in our soul form in a universe where every videogame we want we can create and play in other people's video games forever, and just get to know each other as a whole. You can eat whatever you want get stoned drink a lot, etc. I hope lots of those things from the world after death.
But we also might need to learn a lot more in our humble existence, maybe we need to become like a Buddha or something we don't know.
Maybe Atheists are right and there is nothing after death, if so that's boring but there's nothing to worry about, it just means we live in a shit universe where are there is boring particles crashing together.
But don't worry about it, hopefully things are cool and hope I didn't bore anyone with what I thought. We just need to appreciate the time we have now and make more dank memes or whatever fun shit you like to do.
the soul theory is flawed as fuck.
>where will the souls go if the earth suddenly could not support life anymore
>>707820679
if we wait long enough, the afterlife will be like /pol/
>>707820876
>how do new souls keep being produced
you dont have the answers. you have no perspective to ever deal with the questions.
>>707820509
>implying "god" couldn't have instigated the big bang
>>707820651
Hope you're horny because I'm
Sending dick pics
>>707821016
that's because there are no souls
>>707820676
>this guy again
>>707821253
again, me and you are in the dark. neither of us has any clue what reality is.
its sad, but it is what it is.
>>707821123
Sure, but his point was that the big bang was just a 'theory' as if that was something scientists come up with after a night of heavy drug use, and not in fact an idea already has a huge amount of supporting evidence behind it.
>>707820703
>his idea of heaven is unlimited vidya
Wew lad
I would like to think that we are like any other animal and we just cease to exist after we die. It brings me peace
You have a soul. When you die, you lose the power to your soul so you go to sleep until you are resurrected.
>>707820876
>what's the multiverse
>>707821123
doesnt that kind of go against the whole idea that the planet is only a couple thousand years old?
first glance at genesis at least implies that humans were at the homosapien stage by their cognitive remarks to god. what's going on with the neanderthals?
>>707821458
That's how I imagine heaven too, except for instead of video games it would be "virtual" realities simulated by God.
>>707821373
we don't know what reality is but we can use logic to exclude what is not
>>707821397
I'm that same anon
I believe the big bang theory is plausible, even likely
I also believe we're a science project of a more advanced civilization
>>707821559
bullshit pseudoscience without any proof that it exists
>>707821684
i dont think logic is as robust as you think it is
>>707821571
There's more than one interpretation of what God is or might be
I'm 99.9% certain the world's not 6000 years old, but assuming an omnipotent figure that created the universe has a say, it's not impossible
>>707812756
your body is handled the way you decided when you were alive, be it cremation or burial. there might be a ceremony involving family or close friends. i believe that the individual loses all consciousness- eternal oblivion. the world you experienced during your brief existence continues, unaware of your ever having lived at all
>>707821582
Possibly, but what would god have to gain from that? The only thing I could think of is more tests and spoiler we're already in "virtual" reality
>>707821752
No proof it doesn't either.
Why are pseudo-intellectuals so quick to dismiss something on the grounds of "it's ludicrous"?
Learn your fallacies
>>707821707
Dude
It's not hard to understand
I don't give a shit what you believe could have or couldn't have happened.
The only point in trying to make is that you don't seem to understand what a scientific fucking theory is, and you're misusing the term, to make it sound like a theory doesn't have much grounding in reality. So educate yourself and cut that shit out. As I said, gravity is also a theory and you don't see anyone dumb enough to say that gravity may not exist because it's "just a theory."
>>707817419
So if that's the case, what if we're already dead, and it's just repeating and going deeper?
>>707812756
Your family falls apart without you to anchor it, your significant other falls into a deep depression, and your children never speak to eachother outside of holidays. The world spins on without you, in time undoing everything you ever did, and turning to ash anything you found any meaning in.
>>707816365
I get what you're saying about matter, but we actually don't know that for sure, mostly because of black holes. Matter gets sucked in then released via hawking radiation, and if it's true that the black holes connect different universes or dimensions, then there's a never ending exchange of matter going on.
>>707822418
cool
so im gonna go ahead and try to start a family
cheers
>>707822043
In heaven He'd just want us to be happy so we can ask for whatever we want. Including sex with tons of hot babes.
>>707822333
I don't think you know what a theory is. It's something that can't be proved either way. There are correct theories and incorrect theories.
These are different theories, both without proof (only we can experience "gravity", and not the big bang). Just because gravity theory is likely true doesn't mean the big bang theory is as well.
>educate yourself
>>707817144
I call bullshit! Where's the heart failure? Where's the kidney and liver damage? When does your airway swell shut? Skin irritation?
These guys don't make you trip balls! They can fucking kill you!
Everyone feels a tiny bit happier
>>707822931
Wrong faggot.
>In modern science, the term "theory" refers to scientific theories, a well-confirmed type of explanation of nature, made in a way consistent with scientific method, and fulfilling the criteria required by modern science. Such theories are described in such a way that any scientist in the field is in a position to understand and either provide empirical support ("verify") or empirically contradict ("falsify") it. Scientific theories are the most reliable, rigorous, and comprehensive form of scientific knowledge,[4] in contrast to more common uses of the word "theory" that imply that something is unproven or speculative (which is better characterized by the word 'hypothesis').[5] Scientific theories are distinguished from hypotheses, which are individual empirically testable conjectures, and scientific laws, which are descriptive accounts of how nature will behave under certain conditions.
Tell me again how I'm the uneducated one.
>>707822468
You took quite the assumptive leap there anon.
>>707823070
>>707822931
And before you say "hurr durr wikipedia" here is the dictionary dot Com definition
>a coherent group of propositions formulated to explain a group of facts or phenomena in the natural world and repeatedly confirmed through experiment or observation
>>707822850
So you're saying he's doing this because he's just a good guy.
This implies it gives him no advantage, except emotional
Someone without an agenda (even just to experiment) is likely not the real creator of this world, and is simply a "script kiddie"
My interpretation of your implication is that he's like a 3rd grader with an ant farm
>>707823412
No I think God is evil for creating a world full of evil but he purifies his will by sacrificing the Logos. Later we will see the benevolent side of God.
>>707823070
>it's a well-substantiated explanation based on facts
theories aren't proven, they just make sense given our current understanding of the situation and past experiments
If it were proven, it would be a law.
>>707812756
reincarnation
>>707823701
>sacrificing the logos
I can never tell bait from genuine responses in these threads
>>707823991
>Scientific theories are the most reliable, rigorous, and comprehensive form of scientific KNOWLEDGE
How do you still fuck this up when the explanation is right in front of you?
>>707820509
Except what he's talking about isn't a theory. It's astrophysics. It's a real thing and probably 3% of the population understand it. Unless you're calling math a theory, but you'd be retarded to do that.
>>707824314
I think you're responding to the wrong person, I'm saying the same thing you are.
>>707824217
You know "steady state" was a theory? You probably don't because you're 12 and are probably asking your dad and Google how to respond.
Well the steady state theory and big bang theory contradicted each other, and eventually the steady state theory was overturned. If theories must be proven then no contradictory theories would ever emerge.
>>707820509
We can run a computer simulation to prove the big bang imcould occur.
How does science prove a creator?
That would be counter to scientific theory
>>707812756
You wake up from a virtual reality machine and fly back to your 4th dimensional appendage for some sun exposure
>>707822468
Well that's the only good point to anything I've said in this thread so far. I don't have a lot of time to explain why your thought process is... Incorrect.
You have to understand with Hawking radiation and black holes it's not matter getting sucked in, it's particles and anti-particles being spat out simultaneously. When anti-particles come into contact with particles then you get a negative constant called a "trans-planckian problem." Which is completely different than matter being created or destroyed its a cancellation of the process entirely. It's not a never ending exchange of matter so much of an expansion of something already existing.
>universe
>>707812756
You wake up in a soft bed, surrounded byyour family, regardless of whether they're alive or dead.
You step out of the bedroom and gaze upon the paradise before you, the spirits of those who have made it to the afterlife look up to you and smile.
In your paradise, you are the center of the universe, you are the one everybody aspires to be, you are the one they idolise and love.
Then you wake up, it's 2 in the morning, and you are exactly where you were before you died.
You then realise that you are so insignificant in the grand scheme of things, that you literally aren't capable of dying. You're forced to live the pathetic 'life' you have carved for yourself for all eternity.
Not even the sweet release of death will grant you peace.
>>707824662
Go ahead and attempt to overturn the basic math proving that all matter in the universe is radiating outward from a central source. Go ahead, I'll wait.
Erroneous or not, theories are still created based on at least some supporting evidence. In the case of the big bang this evidence is basic math and physics. To deny it is equally as retarded as attempting to deny gravity exists.
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>>707825242
I never said the big bang theory was incorrect, I said it's not been proven
>>707825242
>>707825380
The steady state theory also had math and experiments to back it up
>>707825380
Oh cool, then you can explain to me how exactly red/blue shift and basic math don't prove that all the matter in the universe is radiating from a central point then.
You'd probably be in line for a Nobel Prize if you could do that.
>>707819452
>terms of universal expansion
It's like you people see a keyword that you're familiar with and then jump all over my statement just to disagree. You're like my dog, I say the word "walk" and he jumps up from where he lay, and freaks out. Trained.
>>707825596
At least you kind of acknowledged theories aren't inherently true
>>707819244
You're an idiot. Everything is chemicals. This conversation we're having is chemicals, your computer is chemicals, your brain and body are chemicals. The consciousness is quite literally soft energy. You're treating it as it's purely just chemicals, it's chemical reactions IE energy. It's not a cup of salt.
>>707812756
You cannot comprehend the events after death because there are none.
You cannot comprehend that there is oblivion because to understand it is to experience it and to experience it is to be op's sex life.
>>707826023
And your lack of an explanation as to how basic math and physics could possibly point to anything but the big bang is at least sort of an acknowledgement that specific theories are quite easily provable as true.
>>707825629
Lots of ad hominem, no actual substance. Yawn.
>>707812756
What if...you could do something amazing for Life going forward? You become one of the greats....carried on till eternity...
But that requires so much effort x(
>>707821844
I like you, you seem to get it. Everyone is so quick to default to American Evangelism.
>>707826372
Great response. There's nothing left that's even remotely intellectually challenging in this thread, and I don't care to discuss philosophy at 4am. I'm going to go tip every fedora I own and go to sleep. Have a great night.
>after you die
You just die, what more could happen
>>707812756
Your consciousness goes back into sleep untill its reborn into a new creature of this universe!
>>707826643
You could go to Heaven.. you could go to Hell.. maybe even Purgatory. Maybe we wake up as Ayy Lmaos with a bong in our hands.
>>707826271
>he thinks I can disprove one of the most well-known and controversial theory of all time
I'm flattered anon
>>707826643
If this is true, It's so fucking sad you won't ever meet your loved ones ever again after their death. So fucking sad!!!!!!
>>707826955
What could possibly make them more important that this? Hold them. Tell them that you love them. If this is out of character for you they'll likely ask what's wrong. Tell them, you were thinking how life is short and how precious they are to you. Be honest. Try to live a good life. You'll be happier for it. Will there also be sadness? Of course. Without sadness, the happiness would lose all meaning for not having a frame of reference.
You get go m forgotten
>>707812756
There is no such thing as death. Life is just a dream and we're the imagination of ourselves.
>>707816046
Try harder drugs
>>707812756
Your soul gets carelessly thrown onto a roof and its stuck for eternity.
Frisbeetarianism.
