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Is it happening?

It appears Russia and China are preparing for war with U.S.
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Yes, China is totally Putlerlands ally.
Also, $$ is going to collapse any day and the moon landing was staged.
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http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2016/10/10/488488/South-Korea-US-military-drill-China-Russia-North-Korea-war

http://abcnews.go.com/International/russian-television-warns-nuclear-war-amid-us-tensions/story?id=42773541

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-10-11/russia-says-it-s-joining-china-to-counter-u-s-missile-defense

grabbed the first 3 healines
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Nothing is happening putin called some fags back to the mother land cause he's scared they'll turn into spies for the US
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>>707740361
there will be no war, also you are retarded
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>>707740912
So how can you be so sure? Also you are retarded
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>>707740912
>what is b8
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>>707741111
How can you be retarded? Also, you are sure
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https://www.rt.com/news/362572-us-russia-syria-proxy-war/
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>>707741111
checked, that guy is the retard
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>>707741559
http://www.theonion.com/article/vatican-putting-out-feelers-how-public-would-react-54161
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>>707740361
I hope so. I want the end.
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Step forward, those who would serve for an army will be raised. ...
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>>707741292
Can you be retarded? Also, how sure are you?
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http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/12/politics/us-russia-tensions-cold-war/index.html
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>>707740361
This is just a Russian shill thread
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>>707741883
Sure, how can you be?
Also retarded.
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>>707740361
Looks more like US and UK are preparing for war with Russia.

Russia is helping it's ally Syria to combat rebels and terrorists (supported by Saudi Arabia and Qatar) that have invaded their country.
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>>707743434
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/13/boris-johnson-military-options-against-syrian-regime-being-considered
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/10/12/jill_stein_hillary_clintons_declared_syria_policy_could_start_a_nuclear_war.html
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>>707743434
Also, China won't get involved in the Middle East. They have their own battleground in the South China Sea with the surrounding states, primarily the Philippines (a US vassal, but relationship strained lately).
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>>707743629
God damn Hillary bombing that Aleppo
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>>707741725
You do know The Onion is satire, right?
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>>707740361
No, don't be a retard.
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>>707743629
Too many blacks moved in ?
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>>707743942
Same category as rt.com
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>>707743014
how surely retarded, you can also be.
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>>707743629
Is that Detroit?
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>>707740626
This. They pretty much hate each other, only reason Putin's even considering TRADING with China is because EU has blocked a large portion of their trade. On the serious though, we're pretty much on the brink of nuclear warfare due to US and Russia upgrading respective nuclear arms systems while their relationships worsen to peak Cold War era, that plus India and Pakistan being pretty much in a nuclear standoff etc.

Read this statement from the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists Science and Security Board if ya don't believe me:
http://thebulletin.org/three-minutes-and-counting7938
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can russia do any damage to US, or it will be one day war just fucking all russia in the ass?
not trolling, just don't know anything about modern Russia power
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>>707741111
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>>707745013

>19 JANUARY 2015

please get up to date
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>>707745263
if the nukes start flying, we all get to die.

mutual assured destruction.

.. what an utter foolish way to end the race of man.
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>>707740361
I think its the other way around.
Who is supplying the EU with weapons and missiles?????? The one and the only USA.
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>>707740361
vote for clinton and there will be war no matter if they are preparing or not

vote for trump and you may live your life in peace until someone else after him will fuck it up
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>>707745263

Modern Russian Power
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Every fucking year people say the same shit.
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>>707745371
That's when they moved the time to three minutes to midnight, it remained unchanged this year. Posted the 2015 version since it in greater detail explained the increased threats.

2016 update:

http://thebulletin.org/press-release/doomsday-clock-hands-remain-unchanged-despite-iran-deal-and-paris-talks9122
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>>707745575
why would Clinton wage war on Russia?
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>>707745263
russians are spending most on their military budget on defense like anti air, and the "rest" on nuclear stuff to stay a thread for USA so they don't pull off the middle eastern shit on them.

It's all about the oil and its nothing new folks. If USA stops conquering stuff it will lose it's wealth. That's why everyone hates trump btw
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>>707745833
clinton would wage war on everyone m8, she already did in the past decades
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>>707745913
so russia and us can even actually have a real war? how powerful russian is then on the world scale?
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>>707740912
You sir are retarded, quands speak the truth
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"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."

~Albert Einstein
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>>707745513
Most on the northern hemisphere at least. This article best explains the effects of nuclear war

http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/nuclear/nuclearwar1.html
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>>707746091
not a conventional war, more like one big bang and everything is fucked.
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>>707745833
well for starters someone has to keep the "russians are the boogeyman" narrative and clintons are on that same page
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80 years ago,a lot of 18-30 year olds died in the course of delivering tools food,jeeps p 39 cobras,tanks,millions of rounds of 20mm ackack cannon shells so stalins army would have means to keep on battling the hitlerites,those merchant mariners drowned,after being burned,limbs blown off,most of russian unpreparedness owed to stalins idiot paranoia,bad judgement,his liquidation of 13 k war-experienced officers,and his legion of NKVD gumshoes charged with criminal mismanagement of everything they had authority over.
putin fucked up bad in invading georgia,the ukraine,his youkie pals downed a civilian passenger jet out of stupidity, he now supplies china,iran,india with weapons and nuclear tech,war there will not be unless he wants one. the idiot crew in obamas cadres of columbia grads and the clintons,the democrat party, have allowed isis to hatch from the vacuum created by them when the US bailed out just in time for the press to promote obamas re election. the lied for them to cover up the benghazi shit. putin used gas on syrians,,,,,,, isis serves putin in preventing kurds from carving out a chunk each,kurds assist putin by killing isis which wants all assad gone too,turkey supplied bought oil from isis,putin wants saudi oil & iran is his surrogate to do so,sauds were given ok by obama to bomb yemen & make them happier after obama lifted iranian sanctions & bribed them with the grey painted US planeload of loot. all this,and more we do not yet know about,= SAFU,to SFUEW.situation already fucked up, to situation fucked up even worse,,
vladi has not experienced the US riled unto fury,,maybe his grandad did,,in everything putin does,he shows better understanding of the world,knows his adversaries better than any of todays' US ruling class,that would be,the democrat party. now u leftists pile on with israel made isis,the nwo,the pope,the jew bankers,the rockyfellers,the brits the queen their poodle,,,
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>>707745833
Greed
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>>707741111
You can't put the burden of evidence on the other one.
>You can't know that
>NO YOU CAN'T KNOW THAT IT WON'T HAPPEN!!!1
Fucking children
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>>707745263
The only "power" Putlerland has is nukes.
But revolting inside it is more likely than using nukes
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>>707746703
Ive posted about a dozen news articles on the subject so I've done my part faggot. Plus it was a sarcastic reply to a faggot comment. Get a life.
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黄色猴子们万岁
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>>707746961
I don't speak Nintendo
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>>707746438
Surely you can't just ignore the fact that the US also supplies third world shotholes with nuclear weapons technology. How would a right wing governent be any different and fuck up any less than the current one? I mean it was Bush's invasion of Iraq that unleashed the sectarian breeding ground that created IS(and they're pretty much defeated at this point as a military force btw). Why does it matter if the left or right flank of the state is in charge?
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>>707740361

That's cool. Now go write your blog else where, faggot.
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>>707746091
Russians are moving in on Ukraine and the world doesn't know what to do really.. That kind of says a lot. Apart from that, considering the population density, I'd say Russia is, as it's always been, a hard country to fight. The geographical problems will prove hard for the united states to tackle, although not impossible. Less nukes are needed to fuck up the united states, disregarding missile defense systems.
Russian technology is still somewhat less refined than american, but it costs a fraction of the price, and often needs less maintenance. The russian army is probably on a more layman's level, but the ease of mobilization and putting people into combat will prove it's strengths over expensive and advanced systems.
>Both countries, along with surrounding areas, are pretty much fucked
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>>707745833
Because the Clintons are fucking clowns
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>>707747339
>THIS
Especially considering the united states democracy is a joke with puppets feeding the same system
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>>707745997
everyone in charge in the US did in the past century, dude. But that hardly answers my question.
>>707746254
but Russians are the boogeyman, anon. Right now, Putin is setting up missiles in Kaliningrad, smack centre in the Baltic Sea and calling home foreign ambassadors, consuls and attaches.
>>707746545
>Greed
for what?
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>>707747669
k den
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>>707742988
>cuba
>regan
>third strike?
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>>707747528
>Russians are moving in on Ukraine and the world doesn't know what to do really

First off, they're not "moving in", they're destabilising the eastern part of the country with civil war. Second off, Nato's in the western part flexing their muscles, and pretty much all of Russias western border is surrounded by Nato bases. Saying that Russia has an advantage in this situation or even behaving aggressively when it's Nato who's pushing East is just false
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>>707747769
>for what
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>>707747769
>everyone in charge in the US did in the past century

Your vote in the US is like

0% chance for peace
vs
chance >0% for peace
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>>707748009
you forgot to mention the part where they had a coup backed by 'pro western parties'
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>>707746178
we should all flee to Australia, except... we can't, because those fucks keeps their borders tighter than a kittens vagina.
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>>707746113
true, true dat is.
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>>707748009
So you're saying that creating a destabilized society is not an offensive?
NATO may be present, but that's hardly the business of Russia. Russian troops should not be on foreign ground, they're a sovereign state showing aggression in other parts of the world at the same time. Numerous reports of Russian fighters in Swedish airspace, reports of subs deep in Swedish waters, moving heavy weaponry into Kaliningrad.. Shit does not look good when they then decide to 'destabilize' northern parts of Ukraine...
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>>707748392
Ausfag here. It really isnt that hard. Just be white, middle class and have some form of qualification and youll fit right in. But fair warning, we have things here tgat are far more terrorfying than nukes.
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>>707748100
you seriosly think Hillary thinks she can claim that for the American empire? I know republiturds like to think she's dumb as a door knob, but that there is stretching the narrative.

that would be the mother of all pyrrhic victories.
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Honestly Russia is strapped for cash and not really in the best position to enter a major war. The United States still has the largest fleet of nuclear-capable subs all over the world and our military is more capable than anyone else's currently. It would be foolish to start a major war with the United States. Putin knows this and he will not commit suicide by commencing ww3.. yet.
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>>707749022
No, I don't think she can, but I believe that she's a power hungry megalomaniac just like the rest of the candidates, or basically any payed politician, and may very well try. You simply asked what she might want, this is what the united states economy wants.
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>>707748717
I'm white.. educated, a fairly reasonable and upstanding citizen.

but I have raging arachnophobia, so I guess I'll just stay put and chance it with the Russians.
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>>707749294
well, we can argue opinions back and forth and I'm not dismissing your thesis, but... at the end of the day, I don't believe she's ready to risk the end of days for Russian oil and gas.

she's not that loony.
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>>707749325
Try New Zealand then, they have no spiders or snakes.

They have a lot of kiwis tho so thats the trade off...
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>>707749640
What evidence do you have to suggest that she will back off? She will risk anything at anytime, her track record proves this. One extreme to the next to sate her and her 1% friends agenda. No denying that.
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"Some say the end is near.
Some say we'll see Armageddon soon.
I certainly hope we will.
I sure could use a vacation from this
Bullshit three ring circus sideshow of freaks"

~Maynard James Keenan
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>>707740654
>http://abcnews.go.com/International/russian-television-warns-nuclear-war-amid-us-tensions/story?id=42773541

>"Jigabogoago*tongue clicks*ooogoboogoo"
>"Well Michael, I am not sure what you just said, but this card here says, Russia."
>"absolu* more tongue clicks*gjgibabogogogo"
>"Thank you Michael."
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>>707748665
see
>>707748359
I'm not saying they where in the right invading Ukraine, but it WAS a defensive move against Nato pretty much taking Ukraine through the revolution. Nato has been moving their borders towards Russia for a long time, and now they're right next to them. And the part about Russian subs in Swedish waters was never proven, just talk from the swedish military trying to get increased funds btw. But yeah, both sides are flexing their muscles atm, and it's not looking good for the survival of humanity
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>>707749640
I'm not the original anon you responded to, I was simply filling in the blanks in that anons thesis. I don't believe it's probable she's going to intentionally start a war with Russia, but the global situation may create some other conflict that sucks Russia and the United States in. Invading forces on IS territory and Syria in general have had their bouts and it's not a clear cut two sided war. Russian and US interests are not the same.
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>>707740361
Welp I live close enough to the CDC in Atlanta that if they do strike a will either be smoked by the blast or have to fight off all the bullshit that gets released.
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if it was, oh boy i would wish U.S would nuke russia so i could fucking die
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Hopefully Putin waits for Trump to be prez so we can avoid fucking each other up. Also Kerry needs to be droned.
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Russia's only 1/3 the population of U.S? Its like the size of a small eastern European country
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>>707740361
Those, losers wouldn't last 2 seconds in Gaylord, Kansas.
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everyone hate america, even americans
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>>707750422
this
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>>707749662
I shall take that into consideration, thanks bro.
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>>707750191
Some cases were confirmed. The Swedish military is too poor to create that sort of propaganda, and the politicians here are extremely see through. One of these incidents was false, being a civilian plastic boat, but it's hardly bullshit.
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>>707750450
Obama is gonna jump the gun guarenteed. Why niggas always gotta escalate shit?
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China will never side with Russia in a war. If the US and Russia get into a fight, China will move north into Russia's oil fields and take control of them. Russia will be choked, and China will have a good supply of oil.

When the fighting is done, everyone will tell China to back the fuck off and China will just say "fuck you" and hold the oil fields.

They will do this because the oil fields in the Middle East are going to fall to Islamic extremists within a few years and they need a steady, close supply of oil.
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>>707750021
evidence? we're theorizing, anon. I only have the assumption that she's not a total, clinical retard and therefore won't start WWIII over oil.
>>707750236
true
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>>707750609
But they most likely take less time to get a large portion of their population into combat in comparison to the united states.
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>>707750191
Don't forget the NATO maneuvers next to Russia's borders.
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>>707742988
What a shit clock, it's missing 8 numbers.
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>>707750999
let's say trump gets elected. on what experiences and facts would you strengthen a "trump will start ww3"? would you think that the risk with trump is higher than it would be with hillary?
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>>707750999
Nice trips

Fuck off. What good is this discussion if its all just wild speculation? Base your predictions off her past behaviour, its usually a good indicator. If thats to hard head over too r/politics and post your dumb uninformed opinion. Again though, nice trips.
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>>707743942
What does it matter when there are people that get 99.9% of their news from The Daily Show the other 00.1% they get from fallon and kimmel
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>>707751154
You need to read the numbers to see what the time is? Holy shit anon, you're stupid
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>>707749044 they already have too much land and gave some to America, what would they do with radiated people infested land?
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>>707751418
Trump likes Putin. Putin likes Trump.
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Part of hybrid warfare and propaganda machine, wouldnt worry
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>>707744363
you can surely also be how retarded?
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>>707751418
>Not even the anon you're responding to.
In no way did it say that trump was more likely you fucking moron. How black and white is the world to you americans really? Denying that one candidate would do something DOES NOT MEAN YOU IMPLY THAT THE OTHER WILL DO IT.
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>>707745263
Nah, USA number 1
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>>707740361
Man I am so petty. It's worth seeing nuclear warheads coming upon my town, knowing my beloved ex gf lives 10 minutes from me, knowing how different we are now in our lives and that death will equalize us. Oh cmon USA start already this war.
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>>707740361
You're half right. If Russia and China both push at the same time, US can't fight both. Obama being a spineless pussy anyway, most likely result is no fight at all.
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>war
>war never changes

i hope usa gets fucked for the sake of fallout
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>>707751722
i'm not even that anon, i'm a 100% different anon. chill down retard
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>>707751623
Wouldnt that lessen the risk of ww3
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>>707741779
Feels man
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>>707746113
Man, Einstein is full of it.
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USA vs RU scenario skips straight to mutually assured destruction. There will be no war only bright flashes of light followed by darkness.
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>>707751525
I don't need to read the numbers it's just that it's missing 8 dots then.
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>>707751822
thanks for the new wallpaper
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>>707752194
I really wanted to hear what he had to ask.
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>>707752194
Tic Tac Toe
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>>707752467
Same
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>>707751418
the thing about Trump, is that nobody really knows what the fuck he wants with the presidency. I'm not even sure Trump knows.
>>707751423
>What good is this discussion if its all just wild speculation?
what else would it be? How could I provide legit intelligence into the mind of Hillary Clinton?Hor could you give me proof of Trump's foreign policies, which he himself refuses to discuss because "it's a secret"?

her past behaviour says she's a hawk, a warmonger, yes. But, that in and of itself is not enough to convince me that she's also a raving lunatic, and in order to start WWIII, she would have to be.
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>>707752120
Clearly i cant leave this to a fucking moron like you to figure out, so.

Yes, if two people like each other they are less likely to conflict with one another.

Newfags these days.
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Obama is likely to want ww3 with Russia as his last fuck you to white America. Clinton will pursue ww3 because she is a serial killer and wants to kill as much as she can. She loves killing. She loves it so much she's killed half a dozen of her own babies as well as 116 others. She loves killing more than anything. A nuclear war is right up her alley.
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>>707740361
>The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
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>>707751717
yes, slowpoke, we can also surely be how retarded.
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>>707740361
can't we all just get along and watch animals tear each other apart? >>707747442
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>>707752469
To an extent yes. I like to remind everyone the oceans are polluted with nuclear-capable subs
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>>707740361
What would it bring them? Wars are fought for resources. Russia has everything it needs as far as resources go. China imports a lot and would not want to threaten supply.

They would sooner start with political and economic pressure than start a war. Russia could stop exporting oil to the west if they had the support of OPEC, but those assholes don't want to cooperate. China could stop exporting period. But what then? Rising unemployment in china and russia, famine, depression.

There is nothing they can do. We are a globalized world. No one can do shit to anyone because it all falls apart.
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>>707752142
he's right, you know.

we'd literally bomb ourselves back to the stoneage.
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>>707752194
>first strike will be a massive bombardment of EMPs
>cripples everyone in the world besides US
>just in case any hidden allies threaten retaliation
>US Selectively dismantles the world like a surgeon
>Russia and China are powerless to stop them
>Military Coup in the US as the real power players take over government

The only way to play war is to make sure your enemy cannot fight back.
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funny how often fiction predicts and /or influences the future
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>>707752856
Depopulation=More Available Resourses
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>>707752702
>assumption
>assumption
>assumption


Everything (until very recently) shes done has worked out for her in terms of demonising Russia, arming terrorists, distablizing the middle east. You dont need to be a war monger/lunatic to start WW3, you just have to be a war monger.
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>>707753247
Nuclear Warfare=Irradiated "Resourses" That Will Kill You Trying To Get Them
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the best of authorities are unanimous in saying, that a war with hydrogen bombs is quite likely to put an end to the human race. There will be universal death; sudden only for a fortunate minority, but for the vast majority; a slow torture of disease and disintegrations.
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I do hope something levels LA.
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>>707751490
I get 99% of my news from /b/.
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>>707747769
there is not a single credible news source saying that ambassadors and diplomats are being called back to russia. link me just one that isnt daily mail or new york post.
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>>707753243
Metro 2035 soon. The hype is real
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What people should worry about is Russias influence abroad. In my country we have a lot of ultranationalists who want to have close ties with Russia. That would mean a bunch of oligarchs flashing their money to make our existence miserable.
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oh fuck, not another war, please OP, last week's war war boring as fuck.
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>>707753052
I also thought about how it would be started with EMP's but which side would strike first? No doubt the USA has a more capable military but who knows what cards RU has up their sleeve.
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>>707741111
quads speak truth
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>>707745013
>http://thebulletin.org/three-minutes-and-counting7938
It's been 3 to 12 before and we survived - we will survive again.
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>>707753671
More like Metro 2020
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>>707753727
>In my country we have a lot of ultranationalists who want to have close ties with Russia

Russia sponsors the far right in most EU nations to cause inner turmoil, not just yours
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>>707745575
I agree with this and it is enough of a reason, even though perhaps the only one, to vote for TRUMP.
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>>707753289
I never claimed to have anything besides assumption, anon. You're stating the obvious, just as I did in my former post.
>demonising Russia
they do a mighty fine job demonizing themselves, with the annexation of Crimea, the violations of sovereign nation's airspaces and now putting up missiles in Kaliningrad.
>arming terrorists
disputed, but can't be effectually disproven. You might be right on that.
>distablizing the middle east
this is just normal, American policy since the end of WWII

and no, it's not enough to be a warmonger to start WWII. Warmongers are a-plenty all across the globe, but starting a world war takes a special kind of lunatic -like Hitler. And I fail to recognize Hitler in Clinton, or in Putin or Trump for that matter.
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>>707748392
Easy, just have no passport, no id and an angry disposition, look like an Arab but claim your from Nigeria. Then simply call the immigration team a bunch of Islamophobe Racists and you will get 5 star treatment.
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>>707746961
>黄色猴子们万岁
Who are the yellow monkeys?
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>>707740361
Stop reading the junkpaper news you paranoid fucks.
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>>707753388
>That Will Kill You Trying To Get Them
Please Refrain From Writing Like A Black Teenage Girl On Twitter

.. otherwise, you're right.
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>>707747308
underrated post
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>>707741111
waste of quads
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>>707753599
right, got me on that one. It's hearsay.

.. but what about the missiles in Kaliningrad? Just a drill? Exercise? Shits and giggles?
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>>707754171
I said Australia, not Sweden.
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>>707754376
A reaction to NATO provocations.

Or maybe a defence against Iranian ICBMs?
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>>707754178
it's the Chinese, laughing at us all.

they know would win a war between the US and Russia. Them.
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>>707753835
Barely. You know how close we came last time? If not, read this:
https://www.thenation.com/article/it-wonder-we-are-still-alive/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanislav_Petrov
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>>707753599
http://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2016-10-13/russia-could-be-prepping-for-war-orders-all-relatives-of-officials-to-return-home
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>>707754680
>A reaction to NATO provocations.
what provocations? Russia has been constantly violating other nation's airspace, they've invaded Crimea and are siding up to Turkey.
>Or maybe a defence against Iranian ICBMs?
Russia is on good terms with Iran, I can't see why they'd be afraid of them.
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>>707754119
Kaliningrad is russian sovereign territory, they can put whatever the fuck they want and is a mere "retaliation" to NATO's anti-missile shield
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>>707743740
More like "God damn US government backing fucking rebels in Syria and allowing ISIS to flourish because we wanted to depose another secular Arab leader (apparently Qaddafi and Hussein weren't enough) and put in our own guy again"

Then we have the gall to complain about the "humanitarian crisis" in Aleppo. The fucking SYRIAN CIVIL WAR ITSELF is the humanitarian crisis, which the US essentially manufactured with all the backing we gave the FSA (guess how many of them are now in ISIS). If we let Assad and Putin take back Syria there would be no more heartstring-pulling dusty boy pictures in international news because THERE WOULD BE NO FUCKING WAR.

But no. Clinton wants a "No Fly Zone" over Aleppo, so that the rebels can keep hold of it and so that if a Russian jet happens to breach it we can shoot it down and start WW3. How fucking fantastic.

Honestly, Assad isn't a good guy, neither is Putin, but they're godddamn saints compared to the shit we pull. Only difference is they do their shittery to their own people, while we're content with just slicing the hell out of other nations and using their resistance as a justification to completely destroy them.
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>>707740361
you retards. YOU HAVE THE MOST OVERBLOWN MILITARY BUDGET ON THE GODAMN PLANET! If anyone goes to war with you, including everyone at once, you'd still win. Horrifying prospect since your the dumbest, most frightened, and most jingoistic assholes on this rock.
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>>707754947
The US has been encouraging wars and coups on Russia's borders since Georgia. It doesn't take a world-class chess player to see what the US is doing here.

The Iranian ICBM thing went right over your head, I take it?
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>>707750191
>blaming nato
fuckoff
it was the EU through and through. they're the ones threatening to sell oil to ukraine, essentially cutting off a fucktonne of money, and control of the country off from russia and laying it into the unelected shitfest that is the EU
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>>707754119
In the Syrian conflict, Russia is in the right. Not the US.

>US admits to arming rebranded Al Quaeda group

>US admits to arming and funding "rebels" in Syria

WW1 was set off by an assasination, WW2 was started when Germsny took Poland, whose land belonged to Grmany before WW2. Rusdia did something incredibly similar to Crimea (a former region of Russia, pre WW2) and WW3 didnt kick off.

No, its up to the US to instigate this conflict, as it has with most major world conflicts over the past 30 years.
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>>707754947
Turkey is a fucking member of NATO, second largest army of the alliance

doyouevenpolitics m8?
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>>707754749
>https://www.thenation.com/article/it-wonder-we-are-still-alive/
Oh my god now I am in a panic! You have succeeded!
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Every year we almost go to war with Russia and China. Every year some newfag puts on his tin foil hat and makes a post named something like "Its time guys" or "Is it happening?" or "Welp, this is the end".

Nothing's happening. As a matter of fact, why dont you faggots go over to above top secret where you will fit in because they've had this exact same thread going since 2011 only there, theres more tin foil hats for you to circle jerk with.

Can we start a fb fap thread now or something more useful than this?
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>>707755411
You
I like you
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>>707755602
Hey I'm just being realistic here
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>>707746438
tl;dr

giant block of text typed like a retard
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Russia ain't shit anymore. They can barely quell conflicts in their own backyard. Yeah they have nukes, but that shits not going to happen. Russia is broke as fuck and in no way can project their force enough to fuck up the US. It's not the fucking coldwar anymore, just idiots fearmongering.
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>>707750037

LEARN TO SWIM
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>>707755411
>Assad isn't a good guy, neither is Putin, but they're godddamn saints compared to the shit we pull

Assaid regurarly bombd schools, hospitals and childrens art exhibitions with barrel bombs to demoralize the population of rebel-controlled areas. He's a monster and one of the few leaders that's actually on par with US atrocities. Source: Amnesty International

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2015/05/syrias-circle-of-hell-barrel-bombs-in-aleppo/
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>>707740912
>>707741111
>>707741292
>>707741883
>>707743014
>>707744363
>>707751717
>>707752807
My fucking sides
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>>707756313
See you down in Arizona bay
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>>707753052
>>707753738


amerifag here,our power grid is so fucking old i fear to see what a fucking fart of a tac nuke would do to our a sizeable piece of our country let alone tsar bomba or any of the other nightmares russia has in store.both nations peoples understand we are the biggest roosters in the yard and if we fight that is the end of the farm
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>>707756519
>demoralize the population of rebels
AKA ISIS
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>>707755475
>The US has been encouraging wars and coups on Russia's borders since Georgia
sounds more like putinist propaganda, to me. Georgia tried to secede, Russia kicked it's ass and USA stood by and did shit all. Same with Ukraine and Crimea.
>The Iranian ICBM thing went right over your head, I take it?
yes, you gotta elaborate a bit on that one.

>>707755504
this I cannot refute, but I doubt Syria is severe enough to trigger actual, hot hostilities between Russia and the US.
>WW1 was set off by an assasination
the spark that lit the powder keg, yes, but there's a helluva lot more to that than just Princip shooting the duke in Sarajevo.
>WW2 was started when Germsny took Poland, whose land belonged to Grmany before WW2.
the Sudeterland did, not Poland as a whole. The shit are you on about? Are you some sort of ancient nazi recently awakened from cryosleep?
>Rusdia did something incredibly similar to Crimea (a former region of Russia, pre WW2) and WW3 didnt kick off.
Crimea was always part of Ukraine, bro, and Russia pre WWII was The Soviet Union which means that after the fall of said union, Crimea simply became a part of the land it had always belonged to; Ukraine.
>No, its up to the US to instigate this conflict
yes, it is. But I doubt they will, Clinton or not.
>>707755563
yes, Turkey is NATO. Another reason for Russia to charm it's way onto them, divide and fucking conquer. Putin is no fool.
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>>707755410
>Kaliningrad is russian sovereign territory
wut is Königsberg
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>>707755475
Sadly they won't believe anything except what is said on Fox-news about how Russia is the agressor and violating every international law since dinosaurs died.
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>>707757110
Fuck you dude. Enjoy your Cunton vote you fucking faggot, and keep consuming that MSM sheep pellets theyre feeding you, fuck you.
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>>707756971
Russia made like 2 tsar bombs and detonated 1. Not a threat
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>>707756999
No, mostly other jihadi rebel groups that are on par with ISIS when it comes to brutality. This does not mean however that it's okay to turn school classes into thin red paste with barrel bombs as a retaliation for being under jihadi rule. Cheers
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what /b/ discusses now was addressed by /pol/ a week ago

nothing is happening faggots
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>>707757538
I'm not American, brother little, but thanks for the debate.
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>>707756519
I've still seen no concrete proof of the consistent use of barrel bombs by Assad's forces, and all the claims of repeated use come from western-affiliated organizations. Regardless, even if they are happening with the frequency and effect claimed, my point that there would be no war if the rebels were wiped from Syria still stands.
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>>707757799
except /pol/ quickly assessed that the Jews were to blame, that niggers are stealing our women and that the age of consent should be lowered to 12.

but then again, that's /pol/.
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>>707757604

but god only knows what kind of dr strange love esque shit russia has in its arsenal.
do you know if we detonated the shrimp or not?
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>>707758065

kek
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>>707757799
Gee /pol/ discussed the threat of nuclear war(something that has been an issue since 1944) last week! What a bunch of sharp up-to-date pundits! I'm sure Russia Today was cited frequently
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>>707758065
/pol/ for prez 2016
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>>707757604
the Tsar bomb, was just for propaganda uses, because scientists realized its much more effective to detonate many smaller ones in a certain area, to achieve more destruction. The new weapons are far more deadly than the Tsar bomba, actually a bomb bigger than the tsar bomber wouldn't be usefull at all because the explosion would be so big a par tof it would just leave earths thin athmosphere before doing any harm. So Tsar is powerful, Modern day Nukes are alot more powerful
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>>707758194


and the bbc


>kek
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>>707741111
They won't war, economically they make too much money off eachother, it would cost more than the gain, you fucking in educated twat.
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>>707758100
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>>707741111
You are also sure? So be retarded
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>>707758307

>in educated


wat?
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>>707758194
kækz
>>707758284
double whammy meta-inception kækz
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>>707758307
>in educated twat
kek
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>>707758377


OH FUCK,i forgot all about kimmy and his merry koreans
>game over man,game over
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>>707758307
yep i agree, As long as we don't get a crazy maniac like Nero or some religious faggot as leader, we shd be save, regardless of how racist or corrupt our leaders are, even them dont want to fuck up the world
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>>707758274
Exactly. And it was fucking bomber-delivery at that. They don't have tsarbomba tipped icbms
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>>707758696
>As long as we don't get a crazy maniac like Nero
hmmm... I wonder which current presidential candidate, could fit that description.

nah I'm rambling, hysterical nonsense.

Trump is prolly more like a bloated, orange Caligula.
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>>707758100
You mean... the doomsday device??
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>>707757918
>I've still seen no concrete proof of the consistent use of barrel bombs by Assad's forces

>Amnesty International, the largest and most trusted human rights organisation in the world released a 59-page report on the war, a large part dedicated to his use of barrel bombs. Also as the name implies they are an international organisation, not a "western" one

I just posted said report, read it

>my point that there would be no war if the rebels were wiped from Syria still stands.

No shit, do you see any support of that happening in the near future though? Or do you see the country spiral further into suicide until nothing remains but blood and ruins? Literally the only thing that could possibly put an end to this conflict is negotiations with all parts but ISIS, but instead we have war mongering fuckos like you blindly supporting one military side of the atrocious conflict
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>>707758933
I think trump is too stupid, to actually use nukes, I think honestly, people in the governemnt would overthrow him actually if he was about to use nukes, he doesnt have the personality to make people stick with him. He would have to replace every general, and shit to achive nukes and that doesnt happen so fast. So I'd say trump would be the cause of an american civil war/ military coup or something.
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>>707758933
Trump-Nero
Hillary- Caligula
Bernie- Caligula's horse
America- the fiddle
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>>707758964
Giga Nigger 9000 controls The Doomsday Device.
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>>707759344
This is a black day..
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>>707759307
holy shit I lolled many keks out loud

10/10
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>>707740361
every fucking time something happens, i tend to have an argument with my friend about it. he thinks hillary is the best for our country, and he thinks there won't be a war. and he tells me that i'm just a 4chan listener or some shit lol. but every time he speaks he makes more sense than anyone here
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>>707759302
sounds probable, yes.
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>>707740361
It's saber rattling because tensions are high due to the presidential election. Russia wants to be the topic and scare the shit out of american leadership, they are also threatening because they are becoming weak do to the drop in the price of oil.

Ultimately, nothing will happen, people will throw words around, maybe a proxy war.. but that's it. We will never dare go to war with russia, and they wouldn't dare with us.

At the same time, it is very disturbing how Putin is still getting elected over and over. It's why people should not be able to be president twice.. people get stale and lose touch over time. His term will be up in a year and a half so we will have someone else for 6 at least.
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>>707759502

right.....
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>>707759390
January 2017 has Friday the 13th.

Black Friday to end all Black Fridays.

Giga Nigger will reign supreme.
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>>707741111
Even those digits won't hide your retardness anon, kys.
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>>707759633
right.
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A bunch of drunk vatniks with AKs are hardly scary. Russia is a shadow of their former self. The USs tech greatly surpasses anything russia can bring to the table. No one is going to nuke eachother. Russia would get BTFO in a ground war against a real adversary(the us).

Russia rolls out a new tank or new jet every few years, europe shits their pants in fear, the US laughs. All of their tech is from the 80s at best. Even when they do come out with some scary new tank or jet, they make like 12 of them and go bankrupt putting them on parade trying to scare western europe.

Russian navy? LOL

Their fucking bombers still have propellers.

Do they have drones? Cruise missles? Tons of aircraft carriers? No.

They have some coffeeshop hackers. Rotting airforce/armor/ships and a bunch of malnourished drunken vatniks with AKs
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>>707750037
i'm prayin for tidal waves..
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>>707759762
how are you? Also retarded?
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>>707754580
Im talking about Australia.
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>>707759633
yeah like how you people are saying there will be a war.. thats pretty stupid honestly. it feels like you are all a bunch of conspiracy theorists
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>>707740361
They've been preparing for decades. And your point is?
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>>707740361
Dear Dumb Niggers,

It will never happen.

If it happened, all the Master's slaves would be killed.
If it happened, all the Master's land and property would be destroyed.
If it happened, all the Masters tax farms would be destroyed.
If it happened the meas to producing shekels would cease working.

It will never happen. The shekels must be allowed to flow.
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>>707759017
I have read it. Essentially all they have to say is that there are irregular craters that were probably made by barrel bombs, also there's a few videos of people pushing things out of helicopters and pictures of barrels lying on the ground. I don't doubt that barrel bombs were used by Assad's forces, I just doubt the scale and consistency of the use which is generally claimed by western organizations. And, to that point, Amnesty international was founded in London and continues to be a very western-backed and affiliated organization. Certainly independent, but with an obvious ideological stance.

Anyway, like I said, it doesn't fucking matter. Assad is a nasty guy, but the Syrian civil war is far worse than the country being run by him. And it was largely manufactured by the west.
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>>707759807
russia doesnt need any fancy technology shit, they just explode a few nukes in the sky, and every fancy tech shit from the US is fried within a radius of a few thousand km. They dont need any fancy shit, they know they jus thave to generate an EMP and their forces are at the same level, if not even below WWII level. And that is their advantage, because russia relies on old and robust shit.
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all this nuclear stuff is honestly just made for the purpose of getting faggots like ITT to experience paranoia.
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Just take a holiday to Australia and stay there. There are lots of people living there so it cant be that dangerous of a place.
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>>707759959


KEK
its all fucking conspiracy anymore anon.Don't tell me you are one of those self satisfied know it all VICE niggers,or an al jezera loving swede
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>>707759889

we're all retarded here
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>>707759762
yes but ron paul is not michael moore so how am i going to get my raincoat for the gravy train?
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>>707760263
>implying there will ever be nuclear war
Says the faggot who probably learned about nukes and EMP from watching Broken Arrow.

Russias first strike capabilities blow. As soon as the US picks up launches, all of russia gets glasses.

Do you even MAD, bro?

You have no idea what you're talking about. Stop watching coldwar era action movies
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>>707760263

russia is americas greatest equal on the battlefield their convention shit looks old alot of it is but it will not only withstand the test of time it will demonstrate why it has remained unchaged and not in matters of petty bullshit "economics" but because the russian arsenal is all about one thing and one thing only saturation.what you take from that is what you will but i will ask anyone who disputes what i say by doing some actual research on russian armaments as i have.
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>>707740654
>Korea
>retard detected
Team Spirit happens every year.
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>>707760310
i dont know dude sounds like you are attempting to drift off to baseless assumptions. first of all nuclear war cant happen, they are a deterrent. no one is going to war. putins "ally" isn't a represntative of russia and he is just a silly old guy in a kids body who no one takes seriously, while putin doesnt even want to destroy the usa.
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>>707760234
>Assad is a nasty guy, but the Syrian civil war is far worse than the country being run by him. And it was largely manufactured by the west.

Yes, but allowing him to blow up more hospitals by opposing the no-fly zone won't bring this war closer to an end. From what it seems nothing will, the US won't back down, the non-US afflicted rebels sure as hell won't and Putin won't. The best we can do as bystanders is to put pressure on all groups to seize committing atrocities and to negotiate, not just cheer for whatever tyrant/military organisation we like best
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>>707760268


that is what i thought at first but with the proposals made by rothschild at that chinese whatever summit.im not so sure anymore
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>>707760783
>Russia
>America
>equal

Yeah maybe 30-40 years ago
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>>707760977
They've never been equal, but they can both exterminate each other through nuclear war for what it's worth
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open your eyes you noobs usa is owned by china , they will soon collect debts and russia will make a move on china when it all goes down , but china seems to be the victor
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>>707760929


not assumptions.just barebones fact is what i work with.and with what i am saying is dont count on the bombs just dont rule it out.there is some frightening shit happening behind the scenes right now so nothing is set in stone all that is clear is that we have yet to see how bad things really are on a personal level.people are plugged in and tuned out and that is their greatest strength
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>>707760952
>seize committing atrocities
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>>707748100
>USA is now the largest producer of oil in the world.
>Thinks we will invade for it
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>>707759807
I normally lurk but this shit triggered me.

Not gonna bother green texting, no time.

Dickheads like you are exactly why Russia is going to win. Drones? Cruise missiles? Aircraft carriers? WTF? In an EMP pulse all of those wonderful trillion dollar lovelies become fucking useless because they have digital electronic...that's right dipshit...they will be useless whilst the fucking Russians will be flying their ''fucking propeller analog bombers'' as if nothing happened.

Also consider this you fucking retard. Russian latest gen subs are the quietest in the world. Even if the missile shield works, they will still deliver the payload to our capital.

Another very important point everyone seems to overlook. The Russian defence doctrine is completely different to the West. That is because whilst US, UK, French, German defence companies have been charging trillions for absolute shit that doesn't even work, Russians carried on with manufacturing andf upgrading their old shit that actually does work.

A fucking bic pen can be used to sign a document same as a 24 carat gold fountain pen. Our gear is the gold fountain pen, theirs is just a throw away bic shit. But they can produce in a week what we can't produce in a month. And in a full out war scenario, even without nuclear weapons, they will wipe us out in days.

Go back to your fucking cave you nigger.
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>>707760977
Not even then, they have bodies but not much else. They were never able to compete on a coventional battlfield with the US hence the nukes. Hell the US was suppling Russia during WWII, through Alaska, to defeat the nazis.
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>>707760389
amen to that /b/rother
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>>707761228
>things that won't happen for 400, Alex
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Looks like we got a bunch of Armageddon Brandons on /b/ today.
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>>707761272
China needs the US way more than the US needs china

Omg we can't buy cheap junk at walmart anymore! Damn you chinese trade sanctions!!
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>>707760977


they have an arsenal that is really a force to reckoned with,bit petrol demanding but i moves quick and its not like the majority of americas arsenal a whole bunch of little shit it is a decent size across the board seemingly with the perfect balance of heat and boom and it can be used in a myriad of mystifying and maniacal ways.
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>>707742181
Obama: You Lil Bitch Manlet.
Putin: I break you like twig.
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>>707760748
>As soon as the US picks up launches, all of russia gets glasses
they're gonna see well, then.
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>>707761538
all of my fucking this


a couple of disputes but srsly tho spot on
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>>707761850
No. No they don't. They are a force to be reckoned with for scared europeans just outside their borders who have no real armies of their own.

They have a bunch of rusty tanks from 30 years ago. Shitty jets. Propeller bombers. And almost no navy.
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>>707761925
Haha, indeed they will. Meant glassed
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>>707759943
so, you're confusing Australia with Sweden, then?

Australia makes it a priority to not let Muslims in.
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buy me day-z dummies http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198020313225/
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>>707740361
I don't know. I do keep a backpack with enough water, freeze dried food, a lighter, a change of clothes, a hunting knife, basic medical supplies, a flashlight, and climbing cord in my car. I encourage all of you asshole to do the same. It could save your life in any kind of emergency. Pack enough food and water for a soldid 3 days. This means a minimum of 9 bottles of water and 6 cans of food. I have 5 cans of beef stew and a jar of peanut butter. Make sure the jar is plastic, not glass. You could easily stretch that food for a week if you had to. Also pack some plastic spoons if you can. It will make life easier and more comfortable. Have a wallpaper.
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>>707761549
We're still in agreance on that
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>>707761538
how the fuck do you know this and how it will play out?
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>>707759994
hi there /pol/, we've already covered your take on this shit here:
>>707758065
.. and the kike shit is getting old, start blaming the Jesuits like the rest of the tinfoil twats already. Move on.
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>>707762437
I meant canned food. Was reading an ebay listing for freeze dried food.
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>>707741872
For you
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Of course it's happening. USA have been extremely aggressive in both the pacific oacean towards China and in Eastern Europe towards Russia for the whole Obama tenure. If you don't search specifically for sources that report this you don't know how bad it really is. If Killary keep doing the stuff Obama has been doing we will have a WWIII in 4-7 years most.
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>>707750994
>http://abcnews.go.com/International/russian-television-warns-nuclear-war-amid-us-tensions/story?id=42773541


Thanks to capitalism, China and the United States' economy are so intertwined that they will most likely never go to war, as they both have too much at stake.

Ironically, capitalism led to world peace, as we see in Western Europe, China-US, SE Asian "Tigers" etc

If the US and Russia traded together, like Europe trades, they would be rolling in $$$
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>>707741779
All but a cleansing.
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>>707760389
and very fucking gay
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>>707762502
"An" EMP ain't gonna do shit. Military hardware is hardened against it, and one pulse device won't knock out much more than stuff directly below it. And there's the nuclear triad stuff, where much of the US' power is buried or offshore in submarines.

It's a fucking masturbatory fantasy left over from the cold war 1970s made for TV movies.
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>>707762281
I happen to live in Australia and I can tell you they are not doing a very good job of it.
There are more towels in the suburbs than on the beach these days.
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>>707761368

good catch!
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>>707762998
sucks to be you, then. But hey, now you're getting a taste of the medicine your forbears dished out to the abos.
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>>707762823
Pretty much what people said before WWI
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>>707740361
Not China. They can't afford it. Russia have little stakes in the US economy, so maybe them.
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>>707750037
A meteor doesn't reach the ground. We need a meteorite. It's a meteorite once it touches the surface.
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>>707751148
Conscript armies always perform poorly. Handing guns to untrained civilians works very poorly against a well trained military force.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIr8u0j08gU
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>>707762182

you speak of these things like its a certain fact.
you play to many cartoon reality fps games.

you are a casualty of the digital age boy-o.i mean propellers are a bad thing now?analog is so caveman that is must be a weakness yes?and of course you work in both the duma and the pentagon so its all so clear to you and people whom have had experience in combat with these "outdated" and otherwise useless weapons,grass is always greener when its someone else whom takes care of your lawn eh?
you remind me of the sjw millennials whom drink leninaide and talk of the "greatness" of the soviet union until someone who lived it comes along and makes a fool of them in all of their stalin memorabilia.
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>>707763660


WW1 was started by the banks and their masters.the truth is out their little rabbit but you must go further
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>>707764368
>teh jews!
back to >>>/pol/ adults are talking
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>>707764560

i never said the jews you just jump to conclusions


do your homework before making an ass of yourself
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>>707741779
Kill yourself.
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>>707741779
Kys faggot. Not all of us want to fucking die.
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>>707763805
ehh.. b-but, then what is an asteroid?
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>>707764166
>start spouting bullshit to make self sound right
>damage controlling this hard
>muh mellinnial meme

Nigger, i'm probably older than you. It's plain as fucking day all their shit is outdated. Now what are you rambling on about? Who has fought russia recently besides cave people in afganniland or chechens/ukrainians right next door to them. Oh yeah, russia so stronk.. they can't even quell conflicts in their own backyard, let alone project their force

>boy-o
Scared european, scot or irish with no army detected

>being this mad some one told you you were wrong
Slavaboo get out
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>>707765202
Asteroids are generally larger chunks of rock that come from the asteroid belt located between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter
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>>707765191
Being a non-nihilist fag

Fuck off you nignog tier human, like your cuck tier life matters. :^)
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>>707764166
>you remind me of the sjw millennials whom drink leninaide and talk of the "greatness" of the soviet union until someone who lived it comes along and makes a fool of them in all of their stalin memorabilia.
that escalated rather quickly
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>>707748113
>>0%
kys
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>>707764814
>not teh jooz
s-so... the Jesuits?
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>>707760748
>america
>ready to launch counter after EMP
>thinks MAD is still relevant today
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>>707765455
>damage control
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>>707765373
jesus christ Eugene, calm your tits.
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>>707765373
Christ
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>WW3
>anything surviving the trip across the ocean to the US mainland

You're all fucking retarded.
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